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- 0:00Good day and thank you for standing by.
- 0:01Welcome to the ASP Space Mobile First Quarter 2024 Business
- 0:05Update Call. Please be advised that today's
- 0:07conference is being recorded. I would not like to hand the
- 0:09conference over to you. Host today.
- 0:11Scott Wisniewski, chief strategy officer of ASP Space Mobile.
- 0:15Please go ahead. Thank.
- 0:16You and good afternoon everyone. Let me refer you to slide two of
- 0:19the presentation which contains our Safe Harbor disclaimer.
- 0:22During today's call, we may make certain forward-looking
- 0:24statements. These statements are based on
- 0:27current expectations and assumptions and as a result are
- 0:29subject to risks and uncertainties.
- 0:31Many factors could cause actual events to differ materially from
- 0:34the forward-looking statements on this call.
- 0:36For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please
- 0:38refer to the Risk Factors section of AFT Space Mobile's
- 0:41annual report on 10K for the year that ended December 31st,
- 0:442023 with the Securities and Exchange Commission and other
- 0:48documents filed by AFT Space Mobile with the SEC.
- 0:50From time to time, also after our initial remarks, we will
- 0:54begin the Q&A section with questions submitted by our
- 0:58shareholders. Welcome everyone.
- 1:00For those of you who may be new to our company in Mission, there
- 1:02are over 5 billion mobile phones in use today around the world,
- 1:05but many of us still experience gaps in coverage as we live,
- 1:08work and travel. There are also still billions of
- 1:10people without cellular broadband and who remain
- 1:13unconnected. The global economy, the markets
- 1:15we are pursuing are massive and the problem we are solving is
- 1:18important and touches nearly all of us.
- 1:19In this backdrop, AFC Space Mobile is building the first and
- 1:23only global cellular broadband network in space to operate
- 1:26directly with everyday mobile phones, supported by our
- 1:29extensive IP and patent portfolio.
- 1:31It is now my pleasure to pass it over to Chairman and CEO Abel
- 1:34Pavilion. Send just called good day to
- 1:36everyone. The hard work of the past few
- 1:38years is culminating in a period of tremendous activity and
- 1:42excitement for AFT space model. We have moved past a primary
- 1:45focus on proving our technology, on funding our growth into the
- 1:50next phase of executing our vision and operationalizing our
- 1:54business. We are chief team from R&D to
- 1:57full scale production and commercialization of our best
- 2:01based cellular broadband network.
- 2:02Our technology is proven, patented and validated.
- 2:06Our commercial ecosystem is in place and growing.
- 2:09We're funded to achieve our near term goals and reach initial
- 2:13revenue. Our business is now accelerated.
- 2:15Just last week our first five commercial satellite called
- 2:18Bluebirds arrived in Cape Canaveral, FL after completing
- 2:23final assembly at our manufacturing facilities in
- 2:25Texas. The satellites are now
- 2:28undergoing final preparation for integration with Falcon 9 launch
- 2:32vehicle for a for a dedicated mission.
- 2:34We have 7 day contracted orbital launch window in the first half
- 2:38of September. Our current expectation is that
- 2:40we will launch in the first half of September.
- 2:43So this is an ultimately based on a variety of factors outside
- 2:46our control including the weather conditions.
- 2:49As the target date is finalized, we will we will communicate this
- 2:52with the pool to put our first commercial silence into orbit.
- 2:56Really it's a culmination of significant progress to the day.
- 2:59I am incredibly proud of our team.
- 3:02We have spent over 7 years and over 1 billion investment
- 3:05dollars to get to this point along the way generating over
- 3:093400 patent and patent pending trains, seating the assembly,
- 3:14testing and other logistics to ensure that our Blue Bird were
- 3:17ready to transport to Florida and we're ready to launch.
- 3:20It's a major milestone for our company and mission.
- 3:23These Blue Birds will each be the largest communications array
- 3:28ever to be deployed commercially into loaded orbit.
- 3:31These are regular wide strong signal that can reach standard
- 3:34smartphone directly to provide cellular broadband service and
- 3:38all non communication government applications.
- 3:41With these initial commercial satellites, we are targeting
- 3:43nearly 100% geographical coverage for the continental
- 3:47United States using premium 850 megahertz low band spectrum,
- 3:52which offers superior signal penetration in the low band
- 3:56spectrum range. Low band frequency travel longer
- 3:58distances and penetrate differ into buildings and through
- 4:02foliage compared to higher frequencies.
- 4:05This first 5 salmon will provide non continuous cellular
- 4:08broadband service nationwide across the United States.
- 4:12After a few months of in orbit service activation, this initial
- 4:16service for AT&T and Verizon data test user will start with
- 4:195600 sales across the country. This progress was made possible
- 4:24in large part due to the continue and growing support of
- 4:27our strategic partners. During the second quarter, we
- 4:30secured another major strategic financing partner and customer
- 4:34in Verizon to a top tier group that also include AT&T, but a
- 4:40phone, Google, American Tower, Rakuten, Bell Canada and others.
- 4:44This 100 million commitment from Verizon including 65 million of
- 4:47commercial prepayments and 35 million convertible notes just a
- 4:52few months after strategic financing with AT&T, Google and
- 4:55Vodafone. It's another powerful validation
- 4:58of our technology and our business model.
- 5:00This investment closely follow the definitive of the commercial
- 5:04agreement announced with AT&T in May Bringing on board two major
- 5:08US mobile operators in the most valuable wireless market in the
- 5:11world was a transformational, transformational commercial
- 5:15milestone for us. During the last few months, we
- 5:17shifted our manufacturing focus to increase block two production
- 5:22incorporating the lesson learned from manufacturing of the first
- 5:25five commercial satellites. We'll continue planning an
- 5:28initial production for the 1st 17 Block 2 satellite to be built
- 5:32in phases within the initial launch in Q1 of 2025.
- 5:36These satellites when equipped with our ASIC will be
- 5:39approximate 2400 square feet in size and are expected to support
- 5:44up to tenfold improvement of processing bandwidth per
- 5:47satellite compared to Block 1 satellite that we are launching.
- 5:50This September. We expect to start using our
- 5:53ASIC on our six Block 2 satellite and we can use
- 5:57existing PA configuration for our loan and is required along
- 6:00alongside this activity, we have no lost sight of our technology
- 6:04road map. We can now report that we have
- 6:06completed the ASIC chip tape out with the SNC.
- 6:10This technology is the cornerstone of our Bluebird
- 6:13block two programs. The FT-5000 ASIC is a novel
- 6:17constant low power architecture developed enable up to a tenfold
- 6:20improvement in processing bandwidth on each satellite.
- 6:24Unlock an opportunity for seamless space based cellular
- 6:27broadband services worldwide with the three bits per Hertz
- 6:30that we have demonstrated using Blue Walker 3 on our planet.
- 6:33Commercial satellite capacity of up to 40 megahertz per beam
- 6:37didn't translate into performance of up to 120 megabit
- 6:40peak data rates. The completion of the tape out
- 6:43is a milestone that marked the culmination of five years of
- 6:46dedicated research, development and engineering expertise with
- 6:50approximately 45,000,000 all developed.
- 6:52In summary, we want to change the world.
- 6:55We're seeking to connect the billions of people who are not
- 6:58connected, improving public safety, enabling global commerce
- 7:02and for the average user who can see fewer drop calls,
- 7:06frustrating that zones and missing connections, they have
- 7:10not been easy. We enter a new phase for our
- 7:14company and deeply proud of the team we had assembled and be
- 7:19confident in the plan ahead of us.
- 7:21I will now pass to Scott to provide more details on our
- 7:24commercial and regulatory process.
- 7:26Thank you, Adele. As we accelerate the
- 7:29commercialization of our network, I wanted to spend a few
- 7:31moments to go through the commercial and regulatory
- 7:33progress during the quarter including some early winds for
- 7:36the first five commercial satellites.
- 7:38Earlier this month, we received an initial license for space
- 7:41based operations in the US from the SEC.
- 7:44This initial license authorizes AFC Space Mobile to operate
- 7:47using VS and UHF frequencies to support our gateway feeder link
- 7:52and telemetry tracking control operations for the first five
- 7:55commercial Bluebird satellites. This license will serve as our
- 7:58primary license for operations in the US over the life of the
- 8:01Constellation. So it was a big deal for the
- 8:03company and our commercialization both in the US
- 8:07and at the Blueprint globally. Going forward, we continue to
- 8:10work with the FCC as well as our partners AT&T and Verizon to
- 8:14apply for upgrades and modifications to this license to
- 8:17facilitate full scale commercial operations on wireless
- 8:20frequencies and to expand the license to support our
- 8:22operations over time. This FCC authorization followed
- 8:26the March 2024 update of our Constellation filings with the
- 8:29International Telecommunication Union and related filings with
- 8:32the FCC that placed our planned commercial satellites under the
- 8:36jurisdiction of the United States.
- 8:37This initiative represented a closer strategic alignment of
- 8:40our network build out and future network operations with the
- 8:43United States and it's a key piece of our overall regulatory
- 8:46strategy. In addition to the progress of
- 8:47Bell reported with AT&T and Verizon, we continue to believe
- 8:50our patented technology including our large phase array
- 8:54antenna technology in space create significant opportunities
- 8:57for new mission critical capabilities in the government
- 9:00sector. We are moving forward with these
- 9:02dual use capabilities on our constellation and expect to
- 9:05generate revenue from both commercial and government
- 9:08applications. To this effect, earlier this
- 9:10year we announced that ASP States Mobile had been awarded a
- 9:13new contract from a prime contractor working with the
- 9:15United States government. This initial phase contract
- 9:18which covers the use of Blue Walker 3 as well as the first
- 9:21five commercial satellites is well underway and during the
- 9:24second quarter we completed successful in orbit and ground
- 9:27tests resulting in completed contractual milestones and top
- 9:31line revenue. This government sector strategy
- 9:33continues to show additional early signs of strength with two
- 9:37new US government contract awards in recent months to one
- 9:40of our prime contractors. Like the February contract,
- 9:43these awards represent relatively small revenue by
- 9:45themselves but seek to evaluate potential for full scale multi
- 9:49year contracted services in the future.
- 9:51As is customary, contracts for these two new opportunities are
- 9:54still being finalized and we will provide detail if and when
- 9:57it becomes available. Our primary commercialization
- 10:00strategy is to position for significant revenue
- 10:02opportunities as we scale the constellation, but its initial
- 10:05progress is encouraging and we believe the progress represents
- 10:08an upgraded outlook for additional and larger signed
- 10:12contract awards over time. With that, I will now pass it to
- 10:15Andy Johnson, our new Chief Financial Officer to take you
- 10:18through the financial. Update.
- 10:20Thanks, Scott and good afternoon everyone.
- 10:22I joined AST this past May because I believe wholeheartedly
- 10:25in the company's mission to close the digital divide by
- 10:29connecting Young Connected and was convinced that this was a
- 10:32once in a lifetime opportunity after visiting the manufacturing
- 10:36facilities in Midland, Texas. There I saw first hand the
- 10:39sophistication of the company's technology and most importantly
- 10:43the incredible commitment of our team led by a Bell and producing
- 10:46the world's first space based cellular broadband service
- 10:51satellites. This is a Seminole moment in the
- 10:53history of AST Space Mobile and I want to personally thank all
- 10:57of my teammates for their dedication to our mission and
- 11:00delivering our first five commercial Bluebird satellites
- 11:03for launch in just a few short weeks.
- 11:06I also want to thank Shawn Wallace, our former CFO, who
- 11:09continues to consult for us for his leadership, service to the
- 11:13company and partnership in making my transition seamless.
- 11:17It's a fantastic time to be a part of the AST Space Mobile
- 11:20ecosystem, which includes our shareholders are talented
- 11:23employees across the globe and our mobile network operator
- 11:27partners. We are at the forefront of our
- 11:29commercial constellation deployment and I deeply
- 11:32appreciate those of you who are on this life changing journey
- 11:35with us. Let's review the key operating
- 11:38metrics for the second quarter that are displayed on slide 10.
- 11:41On the first chart we see for the second quarter of 2024 we
- 11:45had non GAAP adjusted cash operating expenses of $34.6
- 11:50million versus 31.1 million in the first quarter non GAAP
- 11:54adjusted operating expenses. Excludes.
- 11:57Certain non cash operating costs including depreciation and
- 12:01amortization and stock based compensation.
- 12:04These expenses are up slightly from the first quarter due to
- 12:07final block one expenses as we neared the finish line of
- 12:10producing 5 of the largest satellites ever to be deployed
- 12:14in low Earth orbit, including required travel expenses to the
- 12:18production site in Texas. Expedited hiring of engineering
- 12:22talent in connection with our Block 2 mechanical work as we
- 12:25ramp up production of our next satellites and the impact of an
- 12:29approximately 11 time GNA expense reversal in Q1 that
- 12:35affects the quarter over quarter comparison.
- 12:37Turning towards the second chart on this page, our capital
- 12:40expenditures for the second quarter were 21.2 million versus
- 12:4426.6 million for the first quarter.
- 12:47The figure was made-up of capitalized direct materials and
- 12:50labor for Block 1 and Block 2 satellites and additional
- 12:54facility and production equipment for our 185,000 1000
- 12:58square foot assembly, integration and test facilities
- 13:02in Midland. As expected, capital
- 13:04expenditures. Trended down in.
- 13:06Connection with the completion of the Block 1 satellites ahead
- 13:10of ramping Block Two production by the end of the second
- 13:13quarter, we incurred and paid all amounts for the five Block 1
- 13:16satellites. Total spend for those satellites
- 13:19did not materially exceed our prior estimate of 115,000,000.
- 13:24The design, integration, testing and launch of satellites and
- 13:27related ground infrastructure is capital intensive.
- 13:30We do expect our experience completing Block One will allow
- 13:34us to leverage our learnings to improve and optimize
- 13:37manufacturing costs for our Block 2 satellites.
- 13:41And on the final chart on this slide, we ended the second
- 13:43quarter with $287.6 million in cash, up from 212.4 million at
- 13:51the end of the first quarter. This increase includes 55
- 13:54million of previously announced investment from our valued M&O
- 13:58partner Verizon, inclusive of a $20 million prepayment for
- 14:02future cellular broadband service.
- 14:05Our strength and cash position at.
- 14:06The end of Q. Two also reflects our
- 14:09disciplined and effective use of our now completed at the market
- 14:13or ATM equity facility from which we raised approximately 80
- 14:17million dollars during the quarter at increasing market
- 14:21prices for our common stock. As of the end of July, we
- 14:24completed the two year use of the existing ATM facility and
- 14:29the existing common stock purchase facility with $164
- 14:34million of total raise to support operating expenses and
- 14:38preserve our capital for building the constellation.
- 14:41During this two year period, we were prudent in our timing and
- 14:44use of these facilities consuming less than 75% of the
- 14:48combined facilities capacity and raising capital at more than a
- 14:5250% premium to our stocks volume weighted average price.
- 14:57We continue to consider using the balance of our senior credit
- 15:00facility which has a gross amount available to us a $51.5
- 15:04million today. However, our efforts around
- 15:07raising strategic capital including non dilutive
- 15:10prepayments from our M&L partners as we ready for service
- 15:13are taking precedence over the senior credit facility, which in
- 15:17turn continues to reduce negative carry we would have
- 15:20incurred if we had access to facility earlier.
- 15:23Our ability to access this facility remains subject to
- 15:26certain conditions and approvals.
- 15:28I'd like to reiterate that we currently have no plans for the
- 15:31remainder of this year to pursue an underwritten public equity
- 15:35offering. We previously provided guidance
- 15:37on our expected operating expense levels.
- 15:40We have been supporting the development and production
- 15:42efforts of our two critical satellite designs.
- 15:45Block 1 and Block 2 are ASIC chip design and the five Block 1
- 15:49satellites. The completion of this Block one
- 15:52work and a significant portion of the Block 2 development and
- 15:55ASIC tape out completion is expected to result in a
- 15:58reduction in our adjusted operating expenses and capital
- 16:01expenditures in future periods. Consistent with the first and
- 16:05second quarters of 2024, we continue to project that are
- 16:08adjusted cash operating expenses for the remainder of the year
- 16:12will come in within a range of 30 to 35, $1,000,000 per
- 16:16quarter. Based on business conditions and
- 16:18speed of Constellation deployment.
- 16:20And as the block to design approaches completion and our
- 16:23focus turns to scale production, we believe efforts to optimize
- 16:27our OpEx will result in the run rate at the low end of that
- 16:31range. These figures will vary
- 16:32depending upon manufacturing activity in each period.
- 16:35This guidance does not include the expected costs of
- 16:38approximately $15 million related to the tape out and
- 16:43initial production of our ASIC Chin.
- 16:45These ASIC related costs will be recognized as an R&D expense and
- 16:49subsequent quarters in 2024 as milestones are completed, timing
- 16:55of the changes in our adjusted operating expenditures and
- 16:58capital expenditures as I've just described.
- 17:00Could be. Delayed or may not be really
- 17:02realized due to a variety of factors.
- 17:05Finally, we continue to work on developing A financing package
- 17:08from export credit agencies to source cost effective long term
- 17:12debt funding of large projects. We will keep you.
- 17:15Abreast of our progress, it's been a fantastic first 90 days.
- 17:19I look forward in the future to getting know many of you and
- 17:22working hard to drive value for our shareholders as we position
- 17:25AST for full scale commercial operations.
- 17:29And with that, this completes the presentation component of
- 17:31our earnings call and I pass it back to Scott.
- 17:34Thank you, Andy. Before we go to the queue of
- 17:36analyst questions, we'd like to address a few of the questions
- 17:39submitted by our investors. Operator, could you please start
- 17:42us off with the first question? Tanner asks.
- 17:44Will you wait until the 1st BB block 2 is launched and unfolded
- 17:48before working on additional? BBS, Thanks, Anna for the
- 17:51question. No, the answer is no.
- 17:52We're already working on on the next build of the subsequent
- 17:58satellites. We're actually in the process of
- 18:00building parts for the next 17 satellites.
- 18:02The main mechanical system is yeah, changes an upgrade, but
- 18:07it's basically the same on the Walker 3 and Block 1.
- 18:10We will not wait for that deployment to continue building
- 18:14when the process of building actually started a few months
- 18:17back. Our next our next satellites
- 18:22built, you know with the next satellite we will have a
- 18:25satellite that will be equipped with the FPGA and a satellite
- 18:29that will be equipped with the A sixty.
- 18:32The first launch of four will be based on FPGA and the subsequent
- 18:37satellites will be locked to 1st 4 block block to and the
- 18:41subsequent of after that would be all based on X and AC, which
- 18:44is a tenfold improvement compared to the FDA.
- 18:48You know, we're fully focused on in, in, in, in building our next
- 18:51batch of satellites and to get in on the air from the post
- 18:54which. Matt asked, you mentioned that
- 18:56full US coverage is the first priority.
- 18:59What regions will you look to fulfill next and in what time
- 19:02frame? Hey, man, thank you for the
- 19:03question. Yes, I work.
- 19:04Obviously, the US market is the largest, a more developed
- 19:10wireless market. In this market we have AT&T and
- 19:13Verizon and get who will be prioritizing the deployment for
- 19:16the US market. Then we will prioritize
- 19:18investors and Mnos that are paying prepaid revenue that
- 19:22include Vodafone, markets that include Rakuten in Japan and
- 19:27then new Mnos that are going to be prepaid.
- 19:30For initialization of the service as a priority, we are
- 19:33launching on a 50° of inclination.
- 19:35So basically, we can cover all the latitudes from 59° N to 59°
- 19:40S So we have the benefit of being able to select the regions
- 19:44that we prioritize according to prepayments priorities set by
- 19:49the new investors. Cody asked what concerns that
- 19:52the company have, being that we are currently in a solar
- 19:55maximum, How susceptible are your satellites to solar storms?
- 19:59Thank you, Cody, for the question.
- 20:00Well, first of all, before I answer the question, let me
- 20:02remind everybody about how we design these satellites.
- 20:05Well, these are like, you know, they're big.
- 20:07They're built out of identical modules that we call microns
- 20:11that make the satellite system very resilient, and it's built
- 20:15out of a distributed system. That no one single part can make
- 20:19the satellite to fail and that make it very resilient to the
- 20:23space weather, including solar storms and other conditions.
- 20:26We had all the data that we had collected over 2 years operating
- 20:29Blue Walker Three. We really of course we have
- 20:33needed a time to to react to, to solar activities, but never
- 20:38having a failure caused by it. So, so we are very confident on
- 20:42on our satellite resilience is where need to be as it relate to
- 20:46weather conditions. Tanner asked after the first BB
- 20:49Block 2 how many at a time will be launched.
- 20:52OK. Well we have decided thank you
- 20:54Tanner for the question. But we have decided the the the
- 20:57the system to be launched agnostic.
- 21:00So we basically. And below our.
- 21:03Our profile. That we're able to support
- 21:06basically every large or medium launch service provider launch
- 21:11systems. And depending on the size of the
- 21:13launch, I mean on, on block one, we're launching 5 satellites in,
- 21:17in, in a Falcon 9. And depending on the launch
- 21:20configuration and the launch vehicle, it will be any any
- 21:24anywhere between 4 per launch for the new larger block tools
- 21:29or 8 per launch depending on the launch papers.
- 21:32And with that, I'd like to thank our shareholders for submitting
- 21:34these questions. Operator, let's open the call to
- 21:37analyst questions. Now, thank you.
- 21:38We will now be conducting a question and answer session.
- 21:41If you would like to ask the question, please press *1 on
- 21:44your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will
- 21:46indicate a line is in the question queue.
- 21:48You may press * to if you want to remove yourself from the
- 21:51queue. For participants using speaker
- 21:53equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before
- 21:56pressing the star key. One moment please as we pull for
- 21:59question. And our first question comes
- 22:01from the line of Griffin Boss with B Riley Securities.
- 22:04Please proceed with your question.
- 22:05Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions.
- 22:08So first for me, the 17 satellites under construction is
- 22:12certainly more than what we expected.
- 22:15How would you characterize your current production capacity?
- 22:19I know in the past you've discussed expectations to reach
- 22:22something I think equivalent to 6 satellite per month cadence.
- 22:26Have you? Have you?
- 22:27Reached that are you are you tracking better?
- 22:29Any any more color would be helpful.
- 22:30Yeah. I mean when we, when we say 17
- 22:33satellites that referred to the system that we are producing,
- 22:38they don't need to be all produced at the same time.
- 22:41So we actually time them. So we start with the long lead
- 22:44items, we start them first. The parts that take more time to
- 22:48get out of this factory, they are being produced for, for, for
- 22:5217 units for that. We buy parts in advance.
- 22:55We, we start manufacturing them way in advance and as we need
- 22:59it. So we, we, we, we keep ordering
- 23:02the, the, the, the different parts for, for the system.
- 23:05Yeah, we're ramping up. We we are, we are accelerating
- 23:08our producer production cadence going through the fight first
- 23:12commercial that we're launching now in September has helped us
- 23:15to to expand on our production capacity.
- 23:19Also going forward we have work on vertically integrating around
- 23:2695% of the systems. So we either control the IP
- 23:30manufactured by ourselves and control the manufacturing
- 23:33process for around 95% of the all these satellites are are on
- 23:37build going forward. Great.
- 23:38Thanks of all for that color. I appreciate it.
- 23:40And and in terms of the initial Block 2 satellite launch, are
- 23:44you still tracking for the late 4 Q early 2025 kind of launch
- 23:48window there? Are there any delays or or
- 23:51issues you're seeing with the with the launch provider?
- 23:53No. We we're still tracking for for
- 23:55Q12025. Great.
- 23:57Great. Glad to hear it.
- 23:58And then, so Scott, there was sort of a informal interview
- 24:02with you recently on a financial blog where you started some ARPU
- 24:05assumptions for the USI. I can't recall hearing the
- 24:08company formally mentioned potential ARPU in the past.
- 24:11So I would love it if, if there are any assumptions or
- 24:14expectations for ARPU you can share today, especially now that
- 24:17you've, you know, got 2 definitive agreements under your
- 24:19belt. Hey, Griffin, how you doing?
- 24:21No, we've been making a lot of progress with commercial
- 24:23agreements and alongside that been advancing or go to market
- 24:26strategies as you would expect. And we don't have any pricing or
- 24:30go to market strategies to report at this time.
- 24:31And I think that article was misquoted, but you know, we're
- 24:34very excited about the revenue share model that we've been been
- 24:38pushing for a long time and we're very excited about the
- 24:41adoption rates and, and and the ability to command good wallet
- 24:45on these service. So no, no pricing guidance at
- 24:48this time, but I would say the go to market planning has has
- 24:51has definitely accelerated. Okay, got it.
- 24:55Understood. Thanks Scott.
- 24:56And last for me very quickly, I'll pass it off.
- 24:58I just want to confirm that this new contract liabilities line
- 25:01out and we're seeing in the statement of cash flows, is that
- 25:04reflect reflecting the the Verizon revenue commitment or is
- 25:07that something else? This is this is Andy Griffin.
- 25:10I do think it's. It's the.
- 25:12Revenue commitments against the the prepayments and so forth.
- 25:16So none of that's none of that's revenue at this point yet until
- 25:19the services are are initiated. Got it.
- 25:21OK. Thanks, Andy, and welcome to the
- 25:23company and thanks for taking my questions everyone.
- 25:25Thank you. Our next questions come from the
- 25:27line of Benjamin Soft with Deutsche Bank.
- 25:29Please proceed with your question.
- 25:31Yeah. Hey, guys.
- 25:32Thanks for taking the question. Cladding quarter with a lot of
- 25:35interesting development. I was wondering, now that the
- 25:38satellites are on site in Florida, can you walk us through
- 25:41the timeline and key milestones between launching in early
- 25:45September until you get to commercial service?
- 25:47Yeah. We, we actually hi Ben, how are
- 25:49you? So we actually indicate now we
- 25:52were on final preparation for launch.
- 25:58The the plan is to launch early September, the first half of
- 26:01September, we anticipate few months to basically activate
- 26:06service on those perfect satellites.
- 26:09We have two type of users already booked on them.
- 26:12One is Gorman user and then we have our M and OS.
- 26:20We are prioritizing US Vodafone and our investors and people
- 26:25that have an M and OS are paying or are going to prepay for
- 26:29services. So in demo timeline is we
- 26:31launched few months to activate services and then we we already
- 26:36preparing and have prepared the all the ground infrastructure to
- 26:39start connecting to to the spacecraft.
- 26:42So we will, we will have some early usage immediately after
- 26:46for the government in parallel with the with the MNLS.
- 26:49OK, great. And then just going back to the
- 26:52the 17 Block 2 satellites, do you have any updated thoughts on
- 26:55the cost per satellite and the timing to launch?
- 26:58Those yeah, we we are maintaining our guidance on
- 27:00cost. Actually we continue to to look
- 27:03for ways to continue to improve our cost basis as we are getting
- 27:08to close to 95% vertically integration, but the guidance
- 27:11per satellite remain the same. And as I said, we're starting a
- 27:15launch campaign starting in Q1 and and then following up with
- 27:20with additional launches. These satellites are ready and
- 27:24the and the launches are available.
- 27:27OK, great. Thanks guys.
- 27:28Thank you. Our next question comes from the
- 27:30line of Chris Scholl with UBS. Please proceed with your
- 27:34question. Great.
- 27:35Thank you. We've seen a number of
- 27:37regulatory milestones here in recent months.
- 27:39Can you help us think through your remaining approval process
- 27:41here in the US and the likely timeline for that?
- 27:44And I think there was general optimism previously that other
- 27:47countries could follow suit with similar rulemaking to the US.
- 27:50Have you seen any evidence of that?
- 27:52Today. Hey, Chris, it's Scott here.
- 27:54Yeah. So clearly we're we're happy
- 27:56with the progress this year on the regulatory front as we
- 27:59mentioned in our remarks and and the FCC does truly play a
- 28:03leadership role globally with other countries.
- 28:05So in our initial markets, we're working with our close partners
- 28:09on moving all the regulatory processes forward.
- 28:11But you know, we've been relatively pleased with how
- 28:14that's progressed on with no show stoppers really.
- 28:17You know, we really do it as a process that we go through
- 28:19diligently and and that the FCC has demonstrated a lot of
- 28:22leadership this year with developing new rules for
- 28:24supplemental coverage from space and things like that.
- 28:27So for us, I think initial markets are trending positively
- 28:31in the US. Next milestones to look for
- 28:33there'll be there'll be a lot of filings going forward.
- 28:36I think you know part of commercial service is just
- 28:38there's there's a lot of regular filings that come.
- 28:40So there'll be filings about gateways on the ground, there'll
- 28:43be filings about test campaigns on when we first start getting
- 28:47Block 1 going. And then that the big one is SES
- 28:50rights in the US with the FCC. So that is that's something that
- 28:54will be they'll start seeing filings on that with us and with
- 28:58our two partners in the US. OK, great.
- 28:59And if I can just fit in one more, I think you mentioned no
- 29:02public equity offering this year.
- 29:04But as you look toward Block 2 and beyond, can you just help us
- 29:07think through the timing of additional funding requirements
- 29:09and how do you think about the trade-offs for different capital
- 29:12sources and going forward? Thank you.
- 29:14Sure this is. Andy, Chris, thanks for the the
- 29:17question. So as we noted, I think our
- 29:20priority right now is to continue our current operating
- 29:23model of working on prepayment, our relationships with our M&O
- 29:27partners. That's been a very effective way
- 29:30to raise required capital and we have a number of MNL partners
- 29:35that we're making progress with and and in that respect so non
- 29:39dilutive. Approach.
- 29:40Is, is, is sort of how we're viewing our near term
- 29:43opportunity. We also have.
- 29:45In that same vein, we have the opportunity to realize certain
- 29:49milestones in connection with the launch with respect to our
- 29:52existing MNL partners among Vodafone and AT&T and Verizon,
- 29:57which could be meaningful capital.
- 29:58And we'll continue to. Analyze what's available to us.
- 30:01We're, we're very cognizant of different capital structures,
- 30:04debt, equity opportunities, but we wanted to reiterate the fact
- 30:09that we are focused on being good custodians and weighing the
- 30:14capital needs that are inherent to a satellite business that's
- 30:18as capital intensive as we are with the fact that our
- 30:21shareholders expect us to be responsible as it relates to
- 30:24dilution. So I I.
- 30:26Reiterated. Our point from last quarter that
- 30:28we have no current plans to do a public security equities
- 30:32offering and that's our plan for the end of 24.
- 30:34And that we think we have a lot of opportunity to continue to
- 30:38make progress on cash as we optimize some of our expenses
- 30:42and turn toward a real focus on Block 2 for the remaining four
- 30:47or five months of the year. Great.
- 30:48Thank you very much. Thank you.
- 30:50Our next question comes from the line of Chris Quilty with
- 30:53Quilty. Analytics.
- 30:54Please proceed with your question.
- 30:56Thank you. So I noted that in the press
- 30:59release you mentioned that there is an outlook for larger size
- 31:04government contract awards. I mean, are we talking kind of
- 31:07like zippers Phase 3 or some OTAs or you know budget line
- 31:13item in terms of the types of programs that you you might be
- 31:18able to participate? In hey, Chris, you got here, I
- 31:21think all of the above are on the table, Chris over time,
- 31:24right? The contracts that that we
- 31:27announced that earlier in the year and then the awards we
- 31:29referenced on this call, these are all like I said, early
- 31:32opportunities, small revenue kind of the the silver or phase
- 31:36one type of stuff that you referred to.
- 31:38But as you know, the intent of programs like that is, is not
- 31:43into a science project, but rather to build out a
- 31:45capability. And so that's that's what we
- 31:47were referring to in our remarks that initial tests are going
- 31:50well. Other initial contracts awards
- 31:53have been made through our prime contractor partners and and the
- 31:57outlook for those has improved. Gotcha.
- 31:59And mentioning your prime contractors, you know some of
- 32:03those are involved in the P Leo contract.
- 32:06Is it fair to assume that that that you know, could be a
- 32:09potential vehicle for funding or.
- 32:12We don't want to comment on specific, specific programs at
- 32:16this time, Chris. Also just back to the ASIC, I
- 32:19mean, you know, is it fair to assume that the ASIC production
- 32:23or you know, delivery into production is sort of the gating
- 32:27factor for, you know, scaling up to the full block to satellite?
- 32:32No degrees. I mean the the the size of the
- 32:35satellite, the 2400 square feet, the largest size for block
- 32:40tools, it's independent if they are equipped with FPEA or ASIC.
- 32:44We have completed the ASIC FPA tape out.
- 32:51The first launches will be still on an FPGA a configuration we
- 32:56can, we can keep launching on FPGA for as long as it's needed.
- 33:00So there's no upper requisite for for launches.
- 33:02But of course we we want to incorporate the asicus that is
- 33:06A10 time increase in capacity per satellite.
- 33:09We're very happy to conclude the the tape out.
- 33:12We, we, we received the the first die several weeks back and
- 33:16we're cooperating into our micro design.
- 33:19We continue to build the next batch of satellites.
- 33:24Great. Thanks for all the details.
- 33:26Thank you. At this time, I'm showing no
- 33:28further questions. I would like to turn the call
- 33:30back over to management for closing.
- 33:32Remarks, Thank you operator. You know, we're building a space
- 33:35based cellular broadband network design for the use of the phone
- 33:38in your pocket today and other government applications.
- 33:41How we want to thank all of our shareholders and research
- 33:44analysts for joining the call and everyone's continued strong
- 33:46support of our mission and we look forward to the upcoming
- 33:50launch. Thank you.
- 33:51And this concludes today's conference and you may
- 33:52disconnect your lines at this time.
- 33:54Thank you for your participation.