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CFB DFS - WEEK 0 | August 29, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 3: What is going on, everybody? The smell of college football
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  Speaker 3: is in the air. We are here for week zero,
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  Speaker 3: first show of the year for Ship It Nation. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Oh, not much. Just ready to swing the bat at
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  Speaker 2: another college football season. It's nice that we get a
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  Speaker 2: good selection of games for week zero. They get bigger
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  Speaker 2: and bigger. Week zero gets bigger and bigger every year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one thing we talked about throughout the week
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  Speaker 3: is just that, you know, typically we see four to
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  Speaker 3: five game slates. This week we have seven, even without
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  Speaker 3: the Ireland game. And it's awesome. We already got the
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  Speaker 3: we'll be talking about that in a bit. Week zero,
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  Speaker 3: This is this is something that this is in production.
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  Speaker 3: we're going to start diving into college football today. To
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  Speaker 3: kick things off, an ode to the big guy, James,
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  Speaker 3: Degenerate 75. He had his college football commandments that he built.
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  Speaker 3: And speaking of, he would be so Jack today. This
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  Speaker 3: is huge. Not only his Sooners are looking to be
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  Speaker 3: pretty good again this year, but former Sooner Jackson Arnold's
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  Speaker 3: on the week zero slate. I'm sure he would have
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We'll go through the CFB commandments. This is mostly for
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  Speaker 3: people who are new to college football. Maybe you played
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  Speaker 3: NFL in the past, but you're just jonesing for some football.
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  Speaker 3: So you're going to dig into these first couple of
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  Speaker 3: weeks before NFL starts. But the first thing, the biggest
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  Speaker 3: difference between NFL and college on the face is the
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  Speaker 3: super flex position. I know DraftKings has dabbled with super
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  Speaker 3: flex in the past, but it's not on their main slates.
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  Speaker 3: Typically especially in cash, you're looking at quarterback in the
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  Speaker 3: super flex because they have opportunity to put up the
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  Speaker 3: most points, especially if you get a dual threat. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: but Kenny, there are times in those bigger contests that
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  Speaker 3: maybe a wide receiver or running back makes sense in
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  Speaker 3: the super flex, or if the slate is super small,
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  Speaker 3: do you want to dig into that?
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  Speaker 2: Um, you know, and it's, I guess once in a
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  Speaker 2: while that like you'll get projections where you have like
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  Speaker 2: a really good set of running backs and really poor quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: And some weeks it does make sense. Um, very rarely
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  Speaker 2: am I doing it, but yeah, once in a while,
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  Speaker 2: I'll sneak some four RB in there. You know, and
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  Speaker 2: sometimes like those midweek plates can get so gross. Like
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  Speaker 2: even in like November and October, we'll see these group, group,
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  Speaker 2: group five teams rotating quarterbacks. And that just makes them
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  Speaker 2: less viable in the super flex. And they'll get a
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  Speaker 2: spot where you get these workhorse Mac running backs and
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  Speaker 2: can sneak them in the super flex. But generally yeah,
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  Speaker 2: 99% of the time quarterback goes with super flex.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And Oracle says matching comes to mind. Those are the
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  Speaker 3: gross midweek slates. We're going to get some conference USA
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  Speaker 3: during the midweek with two to three game slates. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that the Sunbelt might even be getting involved
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  Speaker 3: in those slates as well.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So Ian from our college football team has entered. Let
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  Speaker 3: me see. This is going to be my second test
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  Speaker 3: on the production side. Can I do this correctly?
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Looks good.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that.
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  Speaker 3: There he is. How's it going, Ian?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, good. Someone doing so happy for college football to
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  Speaker 1: be back here. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We were just talking about how the big guy would
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  Speaker 3: have been ecstatic today. That's why we're bringing up his commandments,
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  Speaker 3: talking about the structure of college football. We just got
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  Speaker 3: through the super flex position. Number two, news is the
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  Speaker 3: name of the game. College football has... I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that it's quite to the NBA status in
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  Speaker 3: terms of last minute news, but there's a ton of
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  Speaker 3: news that happens. Injury reports coming out within an hour
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  Speaker 3: of the slate. Stuff happening. There's going to be game
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  Speaker 3: time decisions that we won't know until five minutes before or,
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  Speaker 3: you know, those gross midweek slates, sometimes five minutes after kickoff.
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  Speaker 3: So being a part of Ship a Nation or any
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  Speaker 3: community is clutch when it comes to following news because
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  Speaker 3: we have sweaty tryhards, grease balls everywhere. digging into the
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  Speaker 3: deepest parts of Twitter to find some of these, some
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  Speaker 3: of these options.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's been a little bit easier now than
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  Speaker 5: when we first started doing this so many years ago
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  Speaker 5: because we get the availability reports that charts a little
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  Speaker 5: bit better, but that really doesn't mean anything. We've seen
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  Speaker 5: plenty of times, even, even the news that breaks is
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  Speaker 5: not really the news that we need.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So I, I would just say, get yourself in a community,
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot easier to have a hundred people looking
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  Speaker 3: for this news and ship. It's great at that too.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just us on the college football team. It's,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's the entire community helping out sending things that
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  Speaker 3: they see. We have boots on the ground quite a
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  Speaker 3: bit throughout the season too, because there's just a ton
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  Speaker 3: of different fans from different teams cash versus GPP. It's,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not terribly dissimilar to other sports where
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  Speaker 3: you're looking for a safer floor. versus the high upside. Um,
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  Speaker 3: but this is kind of perfect because Ian, you play
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  Speaker 3: cash ham hockey play, uh, you play GPP a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more often kind of dig into, to what your,
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  Speaker 3: what your strategy is going into these. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: From a man's perspective, um, it's just kind of more,
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  Speaker 5: you want to like kind of isolate what you're playing with. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we got the chalk here, guys, sometimes they're
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  Speaker 5: shocked for a reason. You're, you're just picking from a
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  Speaker 5: larger pool of players. You know, following the commandments of
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  Speaker 5: Cuban super flex is probably the most standard thing.
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  Speaker 1: We want to look at volume touches.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you're just going to have a lot more
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  Speaker 5: ownership and you get leverage in a few spots.
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  Speaker 2: Here or there.
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  Speaker 1: But you got to be OK to like eat.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes you're going to have like a 50 percent owned guy.
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  Speaker 5: And that just happens just because the nature of college football,
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  Speaker 5: the talent is so far spread out. And then just
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  Speaker 5: looking at contest selection, just making sure that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of great cash contests out there. And
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  Speaker 5: you're just thinking about, you know, one or two single
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  Speaker 5: lineups as opposed to a whole slate individually, like just
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  Speaker 5: the idea of playing quarterbacks naked or dual threat quarterbacks or,
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  Speaker 5: you know, game stacking doesn't come as much into play
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  Speaker 5: as much as who are the guys who are going
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  Speaker 5: to touch the ball the most from a cash or
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  Speaker 5: single entry perspective.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I guess, um, Yeah. Like GPP, like I
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  Speaker 2: would say generally compared to NFL, I think the biggest
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  Speaker 2: thing is like the chalk is better in college football.
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  Speaker 2: Usually it's like an injury and there's like a ton
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  Speaker 2: of volume for a guy that's underpriced. Um, like a
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  Speaker 2: guy that's 35% should probably be like 60% on the
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  Speaker 2: college football where an NFL, if you get a 35%
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  Speaker 2: running back, usually that's like pretty gross regardless of the situation.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, I mean, that's the biggest thing for me. Um,
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  Speaker 2: Other than that, I guess it's just kind of like
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  Speaker 2: GBP and any other sports, trying to find the right
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  Speaker 2: combination of chalk and blow in place.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the one thing Ian touched on for cash
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  Speaker 3: that I'll piggyback is that you're not looking at stacks necessarily.
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  Speaker 3: You're just looking for the highest possible floor score you
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  Speaker 3: can get. You're looking for the highest projected. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter how spread out your lineups are in terms of
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  Speaker 3: what teams guys play for. But that kind of leads
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  Speaker 3: into what makes those decisions. Volume and game flow is king.
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  Speaker 3: In college football, we have, while there are fewer and
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  Speaker 3: farther between now, we have workhorse running backs. We have
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  Speaker 3: target hogs. Danny Scadero for San Jose State comes to mind.
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  Speaker 3: I think he averaged like 12, 13 targets a game
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  Speaker 3: last year. That is something that you want to look
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  Speaker 3: at heavily. Where is the usage going? We see so
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  Speaker 3: often in college football targets and carries funnel to one
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  Speaker 3: or two guys. So Week zero, Wednesday. one week two
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  Speaker 3: even we're going to start to get a feel for
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  Speaker 3: that so it's a little bit different in the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the season some stuff we know a little bit
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  Speaker 3: better than others but Kenny do you have anything to
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  Speaker 3: add on on volume and game.
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  Speaker 2: Flow nice I mean I think you kind of nailed
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  Speaker 2: it um Yeah. Just like, you know, volume in a
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  Speaker 2: bad matchup, you can kind of make work and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a guy that's like a deeper on the depth chart,
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  Speaker 2: you can kind of make it a game flow type thing,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, you pretty much, pretty much covered it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Nick Nash a few years ago as well. Was it
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  Speaker 3: the Xavier, Xavier Hutchinson at Iowa state was a guy
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  Speaker 3: that comes to mind. Like there's, there's been plenty of guys,
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  Speaker 3: Taj Brooks at running back was stellar at Texas tech.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of running backs and wide receivers, uh, how do
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  Speaker 3: you approach which one you put in the flex in cash?
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  Speaker 3: Typically I like to look at running backs first. If
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  Speaker 3: we have three workhorses because they don't have to catch
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  Speaker 3: the ball to take a handoff, like their touches are,
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  Speaker 3: and especially if they're past catchers too. So typically I,
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  Speaker 3: but like a guy like Scadero or Nash in the
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  Speaker 3: past could easily fit into that flex. Where do you,
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  Speaker 3: where do you sit when you're making decisions between running
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  Speaker 3: back and wide receiver in the flex spot?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all slate and salary dependent.
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  Speaker 6: You know, sometimes the pricing is soft and you got
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  Speaker 6: a backup running back, a couple of them.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just easy to kind of decide it's a
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  Speaker 1: three running back. We usually try to go to the
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  Speaker 1: three running back because of the volume.
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  Speaker 5: But sometimes, you know, you got a guy like Scudero
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  Speaker 5: or some of those volume hogs that you mentioned that
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  Speaker 5: are on the slate and just like too, too good
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  Speaker 5: to pass up.
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  Speaker 1: And they're very fairly priced.
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  Speaker 6: It also depends where the quarterbacks are priced, if you
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  Speaker 6: need to pay up at that position or not, if
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  Speaker 6: you could pay down at that position and it allows
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  Speaker 6: you to pay up for any back.
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  Speaker 1: But that's such a week-to-week thing.
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  Speaker 5: It really drives a lot of our weekly Saturday age conversations.
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  Speaker 1: Is it a three running back week? Is it a
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  Speaker 1: four receiver week?
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  Speaker 6: Is it absolute quarterback in the super flex kind of week,
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  Speaker 6: PPP especially? So it is really slate dependent based on, injuries, volume, salary,
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  Speaker 6: at so many other levels. There's not really a rule
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  Speaker 6: per se based on what you have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all I was going to say. I don't
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  Speaker 2: really stay in one lane with one or the other.
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  Speaker 2: It's just week to week. Ian pretty much covered it.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, and apparently there's a sixth one. Aaron came in
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  Speaker 3: ready to fight today. Never play a Minnesota offense unless
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  Speaker 3: a showdown.
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  Speaker 2: Nah.
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  Speaker 3: Now, Drake Lindsey is going to be in the Heisman discussion.
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  Speaker 3: He's being mocked in the top five by some, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to call them draft experts, the highest of high experts,
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  Speaker 3: putting Drake Lindsey in the top five picks. All right,
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  Speaker 3: so that's the commandments. Let's get into some football. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I know there was some college football last night. So
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  Speaker 3: if any of you grease balls out there, watch the
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  Speaker 3: FCS games. It was pretty awesome. They had four Division
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  Speaker 3: II teams beat FCS teams last night. So that's like
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  Speaker 3: the clear indicator that college football is back. Ohio Dominican-
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  Speaker 3: beating Moorhead State in triple overtime, watching college football at
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  Speaker 3: 1130 on a Thursday night. It just gets the juices flowing.
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  Speaker 3: For this slate that we have up on the screen now,
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  Speaker 3: starting with San Jose State and USC, huge spread, big
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  Speaker 3: blowout potential. USC with an implied team total of 50 points.
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  Speaker 3: I'm even seeing 50 and a half in some places.
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  Speaker 3: But I think part of that is because Lincoln Riley
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  Speaker 3: likes running up the score. Three of the previous four seasons,
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  Speaker 3: they're averaging more than 60 points in their first game
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  Speaker 3: of the season. The one game they did not hit
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  Speaker 3: that was when they played LSU the first game of
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  Speaker 3: the season. The rest of them have been against G6 opponents.
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  Speaker 3: And San Jose State is 0-13 against their last ranked opponent.
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  Speaker 3: So everything sets up for the blowout that's on paper.
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  Speaker 3: These are the reasons why the spread is the way
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  Speaker 3: it is. Let's talk San Jose State first. I think
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  Speaker 3: we can get through this pretty quickly. Is there anything
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  Speaker 3: you're looking at? I mean, Luke Weaver in from Hawaii.
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  Speaker 3: Jabari Bates is probably a guy that we're going to
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  Speaker 3: want to know later in the season, but I don't
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  Speaker 3: know about this spot. But do you take a shot
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  Speaker 3: on a guy like an Anthony Ivey at 3,800 just
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  Speaker 3: for the reception upside? What are you looking at here, Kenny?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you kind of nailed it on the head.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I did notice since the last time I
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  Speaker 2: looked at the stone, the San Jose State total has
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  Speaker 2: moved up from 10.5 to 11.5. Big news. Charged it
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  Speaker 2: up there. Yeah, the only thing I'm really interested in
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  Speaker 2: is taking a flyer on one of these cheap pass catchers.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen Nick Nash and Danny Scadero get some massive
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  Speaker 2: volume in this offense. Granted, this is a different quarterback
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  Speaker 2: this year, so I don't know if that's necessarily going
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  Speaker 2: to translate perfectly. But, you know, in a 150 build,
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  Speaker 2: I'll probably– Run some runbacks with like an Anthony Ivey
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  Speaker 2: who's transferring down from Penn State. But other than that,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably the lowest team total and grossest spot on
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  Speaker 2: the slate.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't have his stats from Penn State
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  Speaker 3: in front of me. It's nothing earth shattering, but at
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  Speaker 3: least you get a guy who's been on the field
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  Speaker 3: with some of the power five players, even at practice.
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  Speaker 3: So you know that he's got a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: experience there. On the USC side, it's an interesting approach
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  Speaker 3: for a different reason. How long are these guys going
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  Speaker 3: to play? Obviously, if they only play a half, it's
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  Speaker 3: because they put up a ton of points in the
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  Speaker 3: first half, right? So the production is still going to
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  Speaker 3: come with it. Jaden Maiva, the most expensive guy on
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  Speaker 3: the slate, but for good reason. You know, looking at
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  Speaker 3: Wayman Jordan and King Miller, what's that split going to
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  Speaker 3: look like? I mean, the thought that Wayman Jordan is
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  Speaker 3: not quite 100% yet. So we're looking at that. And
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  Speaker 3: then the pass catchers, very interesting situation because we have
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  Speaker 3: three freshmen. We have Mark Bowman at tight end, Caden Dixon-Wyatt,
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  Speaker 3: Trent Mosley. But you can't forget about like Boobie Feaster.
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  Speaker 3: Tanook Hines is listed as an or starter. He may
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  Speaker 3: not be 100% as well. He's a game time decision.
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  Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley said he's close, no question. But they don't,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they can slow play this. They don't play
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  Speaker 3: anybody until the end of September. So they can really
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  Speaker 3: approach this however they want, let their freshmen get their
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  Speaker 3: feet wet. How do you approach this when we don't,
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  Speaker 3: we don't know a lot other than these freshmen or
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  Speaker 3: studs guys might play, might not, regardless of what the
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  Speaker 3: depth chart says, especially with a 50 point team total.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I'm going to want something from this
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  Speaker 2: like group of receivers and group of freshmen. It's just,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting where the ownership shakes out.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Cause I, Obviously, you don't need much for a 3K
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: guy to make value, but we'll get into this more
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: and more. I think you're going to need some ceiling performances.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: I kind of like just spreading out and forcing these
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: guys with Jade Maiva and not really playing them as one-offs,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: especially a chalkier guy like a Bowman or a Dixon Wyatt.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Just correlate them with Maiva and then the one-offs using
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: the lower-owned guys as More one-offs. Gosh, it's just a
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: 50-point total. I don't know how long they're going to play.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Last year, this game was 63-21. I don't know all
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the players' stats, but, I mean, there is some upside
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: even in that 50-implied team total. But I just, yeah,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I want pieces from all directions. I don't know how
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: many USC guys I'm comfortable in the lineup with. I mean,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: definitely three. I don't know if I would get to four.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: if it was like maybe a four or five game slate,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I'd be more interested in four, but I, yeah, I don't,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: I don't quite know where I want to plant my
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: flag with the Trojans yet besides Maeva. Yeah. And Aaron's right. That's,
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: that's a really good point. You could just do that
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: and maybe avoid that completely. There's a ton of options
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: that are cheap and expensive at wide receiver. So that's
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: a very good point.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: And maybe that's the answer and you could stack it seven,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: seven different ways and, like Maiva might still be the
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: only one that gets there. But yeah, there's a lot
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: of points on the table. And like I said, Riley
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: likes to run up a score. He's got freshmen that
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: he probably wants to get in mid-season form as quickly
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: as possible. San Jose State's a good opponent to do
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: that against. So yeah, definitely on the radar. A more
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: competitive game coming up next, North Carolina State at Virginia.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: An actual ACC conference game this season, unlike last year
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: where they Was it the same two teams that played
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: each other even though it was not a conference game?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Just weird with the way they set it up now.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: North Carolina, a four-point dog on the road, but competitive,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: decent total. Looking at C.J. Bailey at 6,600, that was
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: maybe the first thing I noticed when I opened the slate.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: It just seems so low. One thing to consider, though,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: is he's got almost an entirely new wide receiver and
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: pass catcher core around him. So that maybe is the reason.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: But CJ Bailey, solid. We know he can put up points.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Duke Scott is back with the Wolf Pack. He was
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: pretty solid when he had to fill in for Smothers
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: last season. And then wide receivers. This is where, like
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I said, it gets interesting because Keenan Jackson is back
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: for North Carolina State. But now looking at the rest
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: of these guys, they're all transfers in. JoJo Trader was
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: going to be a stud or projected to be a
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: stud at Miami, he went to high school with C.J. Bailey,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: so they might already have that chemistry. And then Davion
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Dozier in from App State, Victor Snow in from Buffalo.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: They're cheap.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Are we taking shots on these guys in a competitive
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: game regardless of what their status with the team was
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: last year and where they transferred in from?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, kind of looking at NC state last year,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: their receiver room was kind of hard to pick the guys.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: We saw a lot of ceiling games from a lot
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: of different guys. So I'm, I mean, Jojo traders probably
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: going to be one of the chalkier value options on
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the slate. I don't mind spreading them out. If I'm
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: pairing with CJ Bailey and, but one thing that sucks
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: with CJ Bailey is Will Wilson. He's a six foot,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: six foot one, 230 pound vulture that loves to score
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns. He had 10 of them last year, which
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: really can cap into Bailey and Jaden, Jaden Scott's or
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Duke Scott's upside. That's like just the main concern I
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: have with NC state as far as like, that's like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: that's why they're not like cash plays. I feel like
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: it's cause like Will Wilson's just lurking there. Um, Yeah,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much I'm really going to have
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: of this team, especially at the wide receiver position. It's
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: such a guessing game. But, yeah, that kind of sums
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: it up. The Wolf Pack for me.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other thing I'm not entirely sure is
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: if they're going to give the workhorse role. I would
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: think so. Like, I'm playing it that way. But Davian
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Gauss is– not a slouch. He's in from North Carolina. So, uh, maybe,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: maybe you see him. Maybe, I don't know. It's that's
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: tougher to predict too, but it's what we get a
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: feel for these first couple of weeks on the Virginia side.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: They have Bo Pribula in from Missouri, um, previously at, uh,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Penn state and then not shown here, but he is
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: on the team. Eli Holstein from Pitt, uh, Pribula is
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: a starter. Maybe we see Holstein. Maybe we don't. I'd,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I doubt they'd throw two quarterbacks out. I bet they
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: just roll with one. Central Michigan's the only team that
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: likes playing two quarterbacks all the time, no matter what.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: So Jaquel Middlebrook in from Middle Tennessee, absolute stud in
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: the MAAC, and kind of surprised me being listed as
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: a starter over Peyton Lewis in from Tennessee. I thought
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: it was going to be Lewis's job to lose, but
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Middlebrook must have impressed. And then we have Jaquan Gibson,
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Talir Coleman, Cam Courtney, guys we're looking at. Gibson was
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: a stud at UMass by UMass's like by their standards
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: uh one name you don't see on here is rico
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: flores since it's an acc game we already have an
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: injury report and rico flores is out so opens up
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of room for these cheap guys in a
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: pretty solid game environment.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah i um i guess as far as the depth
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: chart goes rico flores i think he was listed as
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: a or with tyler coleman So I guess like with,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, if we're going to go off that information,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I would assume he would start. I mean, he's three
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: K flat and that's, that's one that's not going to
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: get the ownership like Dixon Wyatt or Jojo trader. Um,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: you know, previously you really don't have to pair. He's
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: definitely a guy you can play by himself. Um, but
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: if you wanted to stack like Gibson and Coleman, that's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: where I'm kind of leaning Gibson. I know I drafted
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: him in a couple of best balls on some previous teams.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I know he kind of had some, uh, a couple
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of articles about him throughout camp. And then, um, yeah, Middlebrook,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: he's just, he's just slowly been trending hardcore this last month.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Didn't really know between him and Peyton Lewis, who was
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: going to get the run. And then last month, all
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: you've seen is Middlebrook running away with the RB one role, uh,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's going to quite be Jamari Taylor,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: but if it's a Jamari Taylor type volume, Ja'Kai Middlebrook
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: might be the best running back player on the slate
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: at 6K. I don't know if he's going to quite
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: have that volume week one, but it is a conference game.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: This game is going to matter late in the season.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: So these teams have got to bring it Bring it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And if Middlebrook's the guy, that's, I mean, 20-plus touches,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: maybe even 25-plus if he has a Jamari Taylor-type goal.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So that's your cash running back right there, probably.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the ownership's going to come with it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I would be remiss if I didn't mention Dakota Twitty,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: tight end, returning part of this offense last year. And
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: he's a pretty good tight end, too. I mean, he's
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: only 3,600. But don't forget to take a look at him.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: And then there's guys like Dylan Cope is a name
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: that I saw pop up with Flores out. Maybe they
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: get a true freshman into the rotation early. But that's
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: not that's not necessarily something we're going to take to
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the bank week zero.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Moving on to a low scoring, but also pretty competitive
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: looking game. One that people are low key excited about
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: in terms of real football, because we have a new
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: FBS team on the slate. Jacksonville State at North Dakota State,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: a rematch of the FCS title game in 2015. Jacksonville State,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: a seven-point dog on the road against a new FBS team.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: And I'm not surprised. North Dakota State has held their
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: own against big opponents before. They lost to Arizona by
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: three a few years ago. They lost to Colorado by five.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: They've beaten extreme powerhouses multiple times back in the late 2000s,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: early 2010s. They beat the Gophers twice. In Minnesota. So
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: these guys are world beaters for sure. But we're going
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: to start with the Jacksonville State side. Caden Creel, maybe
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: one of the more dynamic players on the slate for sure.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Super athletic. A ton of upside for DFS. It's just
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: a matter of if he can do it on the
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: road in the Fargo Dome against what appears to be
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: a tough defense. A freshman last year, so he's got
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: the experience now. The running back room looks a lot
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: different this year. Because it was Cam Cook for 250
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: yards and two touchdowns every week last year for Jacksonville State.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: He's out the door. West Virginia, I believe. So now,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: looking at it, I thought it was going to be
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Christian Lando and Andrew Paul 1-2. Paul is a guy
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: who sniped touchdowns from Cook all the time. But on
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the depth chart, it's Jalen Likely listed as the starter.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: And then you have Cedric Kuemi listed as a number two,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: a true freshman. This is one of those situations I
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: don't know how much trust to put in the depth
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: chart because we've seen it from Lando. We've seen it
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: from Paul. Heck, we've even seen it from Justice Savage,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: and he's not listed on the depth chart either. He
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: was an Indiana commit a few years ago, ended up
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: going to Jacksonville State. So we'll get into the wide
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: receivers in a moment, but I want to get your
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: thoughts on this running back situation, knowing what we know
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: about these guys historically and comparing it to what the
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: depth chart looks like this year.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of sucks because, like, you'd think– I mean,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville State just has a ton of rushing volume, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: there could be a spot there, but.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I almost feel like they just took the depth chart
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: and just, like, listed the running backs by their jersey
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: number in order from– and, like, it's just such a
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: crap shoot. I'm probably not going to mess with it,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: especially– I mean, I kind of thought, you know, obviously
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: we don't know anything about these teams. It's a new season,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: but I kind of thought Jacksonville State– bit of a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: tighter spread a better team total here so they're definitely
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: respecting the uh North Dakota State defense but yeah as
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: far as the running backs go it's it's tough to
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: make a decision there even play any of them.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah and the other thing to factor in too is
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: that Cam Cook was such a workhorse last year people
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: see Jalen Likely as a starter they could instantly think
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: oh he's replacing Cam Cook he's 4,100 and we could
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: see Likely's ownership spike because of it and And then
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: you got people who watched Jacksonville State last year who know, oh,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: we're going to be looking at the box score the
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: next day and see that Lando had 15 carries for
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: 110 yards and likely only had eight carries. And we're
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: not going to be surprised. So that's some of the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: things you have to look at with these early season
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: depth charts and honestly some depth charts even throughout the
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: entire season. But we'll get to the wide receivers now. Oh,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: and also factor in that with Creel running the ball,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: that eats into the running back production too.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Uh, wide receivers, Deandre Johnson, massive, massive, massive human being
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: six foot eight, 220 pounds. Uh, so you think he's
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: a matchup nightmare for everybody, but he had some trouble
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: catching the ball. Uh, I would not be surprised to
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: see his ownership get a little, uh, juiced, but Ronell
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Johnson's in for Missouri state. He was very good at
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Missouri state. It, but it's, it's conference USA. So that's,
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I think the weakest, weakest conference in college football. Darius
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Cannon's the third starting whiteout. He's been talked about the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: entirety of the spring and summer camp. So I'm not
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: surprised that he's starting, but we could see Frank Barrett,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Gabe Glover, David Alpers involved. I just don't know in
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: a 19, 19 and a half, 20 point team total,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: how much of this you're really looking at and what
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: appears to be a sloggy game. That's going to be
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: run heavy. Yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: It's just, it's like a volume issue that, and a
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: team total issue for the passing game. That being said,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: DeAndre Johnson is a really good one-off. You definitely don't
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: have to pair him with Creel. I think they can
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: be played separate, together, whatever. Just don't be– like, DeAndre
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Johnson is probably going to get you, like, two for
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: 110-2 or, like, one for six with three drops. Like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: there's just– he's super volatile, but definitely excited to see
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: what he can do. You know, really, other than that,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I don't have much interest– You know, maybe in GPPs,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: like forcing a couple of Ronells just with Caden Creel
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and in a North Dakota State stack. But yeah, I'm
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: more interested in kind of the Caden Creel's rushing here
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: and some DeAndre Johnson one-offs.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe a game that you look at props a
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: little bit harder than DFS necessarily. So the North Dakota
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: State side. Their quarterback is in a similar situation as
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: last year. Nathan Hayes is the next man up. And
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: actually we're going to try to get Ian in here
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: one more time. See if he found, see if he
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: found the signal.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Hopefully he found the spot. Sorry.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: No, it's, it's good.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: It's week zero.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Hey, we're, I mean, we're going to see some rust
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: on the field on Saturday. We're all getting our bearings straight,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: getting our feet wet, whatever cliche you want to use.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: But we got Nathan Hayes up at QB for North
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Dakota State. Don't know a ton about him. He played
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: some last year, and I think if they throw the ball,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: he's in a really good spot. But I've listened to
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: the North Dakota State guys, and Cole Payton, who's in
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the NFL now, was in a similar situation last year.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: They didn't really know what they were going to get,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: and he ended up being a stud. So the other
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: thing I look at, North Dakota State has five quarterbacks
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: in the league. Nathan Hayes is a big body rocket arm,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: just hasn't had much opportunity to prove it yet. So
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I think he's in a good spot if they throw
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: kind of in that mid-range, might be overlooked at quarterback
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: if you're looking for leverage. The running back room, DJ
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Scott's the number one. He was already in the rotation
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: last year as the number two guy. Now they'll probably
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: use two guys, but in all likelihood, I would see,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I would predict it's going to be like a two
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: to one carry ratio. So Scott's the guy you're looking at.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: And then the wide receiver room, Jackson Williams, A ton
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: of upside was part of the rotation last year. Makai
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Collins is another big body guy that contested catches. Isaiah St.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Romain is a name you'll hear. Reese Kessel at tight end.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: But one guy that I would not be surprised to
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: see get a lot of field time is Jeremiah Patterson.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: If you recognize the name, it's because he played at
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Arizona and he was on a lot of slates in
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: years past. So coming from a P4 school down to
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: North Dakota State, I think even though he's not listed
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: as a starter, He's got a lot of opportunity here.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: But 27 points is enough points for me to be
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: interested as a favorite at home. How are you guys
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: looking at North Dakota State?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely interested. DJ Scott could kind of get
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: overlooked here. I mean, there's just so many solid running
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: back plays. I think people would click Middlebrook before him,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: maybe even the USC guys before him. So I'm kind
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: of hoping maybe we get a little moonwalk from DJ Scott.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: As far as the rest of the team goes, I'm interested.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know to what level. Like I'm definitely going
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: to play some Hayes with some Williams and some Collins.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: You know, beyond that, I'm going to have to definitely
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: look at some Jeremiah Patterson some more. But yeah, and
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I know obviously we don't have, but isn't North Dakota
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: State like generally considered kind of a slower team? slower team.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: If they get the lead, get to control the ball,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: that's kind of some downside with just this game environment
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: as a whole. If North Dakota State plays some really
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: good defense and can just control the ball, run the clock,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: could kind of hurt everybody's volume as a whole there.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: When we get into the season, we'll start seeing some
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: of these grades pop up once we have the data.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I would not be surprised to see an F or
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: a D next to pace for North Dakota State. Ian,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: thoughts on this game?
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: It's going to be a competitive game, so you should
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: get volume. There's some unknowns that we have. Camille's obviously
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: a guy that's a known quantity. Jacksonville State, these are
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: two really, really good group of six teams, which makes
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: it interesting.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: A couple of these games have a lot to play
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: for as far as potential down the road for that
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: group of six bid.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: You get volume here. That's what really tells me. Competitive
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: game is you can count on the volume, and in order.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: Florida state running back is probably like the spot that
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: stands out in one of those single entry cash type plays.
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: Cause you could probably depend on, you know, 20, 25
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: touches in this game.
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: Everything else is kind of like maybe, which.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Makes it a little hard.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: Plus the slower pace and so many unknowns, you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: it's hard to project volume here besides what we know
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: at the running back and quarterback positions.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: And the thing you touched on the most is it's
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: one of the competitive games on the slate. It's, it's
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: one of those games that you might overlook at first
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: because of the low total. And then, you know, one
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: extra touchdown by each team. And all of a sudden
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: we're looking at a 34 to 26 game at 60 points.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: So it doesn't take much, just one, you know, the
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: pendulum swinging one way or the other a little bit
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: more than projected. And we're looking at a higher scoring game.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: But speaking of competitive G6 games, We have a MAAC
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: conference game, week zero. Instant, instant MAACtion. I know that
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: one was one of the things teased on X, and
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: here we are. Nine and a half point spread as
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: it sits right now, but a lot of points on
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: the table, a solid team total for Eastern Michigan. Sacramento State,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: the other team moving up from FCS to FBS, which
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: they haven't been particularly relevant at the FCS level in three, four,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: five years. I think like four or five years ago,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: they were 12 and one, but since then it's been average.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: And North Dakota State, I think is an outlier, but
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: typically it takes these FCS teams maybe a year to
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: figure it out. We saw it with Kennesaw last year,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Delaware and Missouri State were at least competitive in a
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: lot of those games. So I'm not going to write
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: this team off completely, especially because they have a quarterback
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: named Carson Conklin at $ 6, 000, who was at Sacramento State
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: left to go to Fresno for a year And now
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: he's back at Sacramento State. They didn't throw the ball
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: very much last year, but I think that was a
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: product of who their quarterbacks were. And it got a
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: chuckle when we met earlier this week because those quarterbacks
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: were Cardell Williams and former five-star recruit Jaden Rashada. Should
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: be a familiar name to college football fans. Very disappointing
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: arc to his career. But Carson Conklin is cheap. I
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: think they're going to throw the ball more when he
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: was at Sac State before, threw for 3,000 yards, had
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: a 28-8 touchdown-to-interception ratio, so he can throw the ball.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: And then in the running back room, Jamar Curtis looks
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: to be the guy, back-to-back 1,000-yard rusher at Lafayette. Last year,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: he was hurt with an ankle injury, but he appears
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: to be fully healthy. Now, the biggest concern I would
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: have with him is that the guy you see below him,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Elias Brown, is 50 pounds heavier than him, so he
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: might get sniped at the goal line, although Curtis is
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: like a bowling ball, so The concern isn't as great
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: as if you were looking at like a gadgety back
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: getting replaced by a bowling ball. It's a bowling ball
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: being replaced by a bigger bowling ball in this case.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: And then in the wide receiver room, Ontario Smith Jr., yes,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: son of the Wizenator himself, former Viking Ontario Smith, leads
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: the charge. He's one of the guys, maybe the one
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: guy in the room that played with Conklin and already
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: has a relationship built. It sounds like they've had a
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: good chemistry right away in the spring and summer as well.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: And then Matthew Coleman and Jace Wilson are transfers in.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Coleman from San Jose State, who could have been a
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: number one receiver at the G6 level, but Danny Scadero
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: was there. And Jace Wilson's a big dude from UTSA
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: that I thought would be the starter, but Raden Brown
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: is actually the slot starter. He had a pretty good
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: career up until last year at Idaho State. So more
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: cheap guys. This is a really, really cheap stack if
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: you think Sacramento State's going to throw the ball.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to pretend to really know much
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: about any of these guys, but I'm super interested in
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: this game environment. So I think the way I'm going
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: to play this is play Sacramento State guys running back
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: with Eastern Michigan, kind of force that position and my
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: GPP builds to kind of be overweight on that. But
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I like a lot of different pieces in this game,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: just stacking it up as a whole. But as far
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: as Knowing who's going to do it, I'm just going
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: to have to guess and check here. But, yeah, that's
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: all I really have on Sac State.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: The thing I know for Sac State, they were a
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: little bit more competitive last year.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: They didn't have a coaching change, though.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: They hired Brendan Marion, who was the offensive coordinator, kind
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: of a pretty well-known offensive play caller. He was at UMV.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: Then he took the head coaching job there. He's got
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: the go-go offense is what they call him. He left
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: to take the offensive coordinator job at Colorado, so I
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: think they thought that he was going to be the
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: one leading him in to the FBS, but he's.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Not there anymore.
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: So it's definitely a regime change as far as the
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: go-go offense to.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Not so much. But it's definitely a competitive match game.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: The game matters for conference standings and the conference point
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: of view, which is nice to have on win zero.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: We're not used to Maction this early, much less on
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: the Saturday slate. On the EMU side, big favorites, a
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: lot of points on the table. A couple of significant notes,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: I think. This is the first time in the last
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: 12 years that EMU has had the same starting quarterback
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: to start the season in back-to-back years. His name is
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: Noah Kim. He was initially recruited to Michigan State, ended
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: up at Eastern Michigan, was solid last year. One thing
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I like about him, he's going to throw the ball
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: around a little bit. but it's an RPO offense. And
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: he had six rushing touchdowns last season, which was the
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: most on the team. So they like to run that RPO,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: specifically the R inside the 10, inside the five. So
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: the touchdown upside is there both on the ground and
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: through the air. And then with that, Noah Kim has
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: receivers coming back. Josh Long, Nick Devereaux accounted for 116
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: targets combined last year. Devereaux led the team in yards, receptions, touchdowns,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: had almost half of all of the passing touchdowns thrown
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: last year. So he is a stellar option at sub 5K.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Harold Mack is their playmaker. You hear people say it
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: all the time. He's the big play guy. And then
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: aforementioned Joshua Long is a tight end. So it's just
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: the target share for him. And then in the running
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: back room, this is going to be a little bit
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: more of an interesting running back room because Amarion Blue is.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Looking like he's going to be the starter, at least
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: get the first carry of the game. But Joey mattered
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: is going to work in, in all likelihood. And then
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Braden Bennett is now in Ypsilanti, which is a step
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: down because he was at coastal. And then he was
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: at Virginia tech thought he was going to have, you know,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: a P four career. Now he's back in the G
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: five in the max. So the talent is there and
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: you can even tell the pricing is reverse of what
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: we have it on the stone right now. Um, because there's,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: there's just some question marks on exactly what this rotation
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: is going to look like. But if we're talking about
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Sacramento state, we can use them either as a stack
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: or a run back because there's some stacks on this
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: side that I like as well.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: I love Eastern Michigan on the slate. Let's not really,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I don't say that very often. I don't know if
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: I've said that ever in my life, but I, um, I,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I think that they just have a ton of options.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I think Noah cams an awesome play. You can play
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: him by himself. Um, he's got some great pairing partners. Um,
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I love taking a shot on these running backs. I mean,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: blue is obviously probably going to be the highest sound.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think that he's going to get much ownership though.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: And I mean, really it just takes, you know, 80
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: yards and a couple of touchdowns for one of these
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: guys to possibly get you a GPP win at like
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: sub 3% ownership. Um, I guess blue, blue will be
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: over that, but the other two should be next to nothing. Um,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: but yeah, like I said, I love this game environment.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I want like, I love game stacks of this. I, um, So,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: but yeah, I didn't think I'd be as excited about
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: an Eastern Michigan SAC state game, but here we are
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: week zero.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: That's a glory in DFS.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: It's a classic spot though.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: You know, you strip down the names of the, of
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: the teams and you just look at the numbers, the
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: point spread, the implied team total, the salaries, the projections.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: And, and these guys are, they're 10 point favorites. They
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: got 30 plus point team total.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: It's a game. It's not a big slate.
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: You know, they got affordable skill players and quarterback. It's
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: just a spot to like, if you just look at
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: that without the name brand itself.
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: And I mean, even if you need a min price option,
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: if you think Eastern Michigan is going to spread the
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: ball out a little bit there, it looks like there's
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: a cozy option at minimum price on the stone. So yeah,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan, great spot in case you guys can't see
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: it says cozy Isaac on the screen. That's his name.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: That was, that was a joke. I'm just going to
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: lay it all out there.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: No, good game environment.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: And if Sacramento State can keep it competitive, I don't
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: even mind the over in that game. They're both bad
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: football teams in the grand scheme of things, but bad
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: football can make for good DFS scores. Now, one that's
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: not good football on both sides, New Mexico State at
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Florida State, the lowest team total on the slate now
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: that San Jose State's up to 11.5. We have New
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Mexico State. I don't know how much we need to
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: talk about them. The only thing I'd like to touch
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: on is TK King. He might be a little bit
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: too expensive for me in this spot, though. But I
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: think if New Mexico State is going to have success,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: he's the dynamic playmaker who's going to be able to
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: do it for them. Because I think he is a
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: P4 talent on New Mexico State. He was a stud
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: last year. He came onto the scene midseason and instantly
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: blew up. I would argue the best player on this offense.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Are you guys touching New Mexico State at all?
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, T.K. King, and I'm going to correlate T.K. King
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: probably with the Florida State guy, but that is it.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: Sounds more like a GPP runback option from my point
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: of view as opposed to a city-country cash kind of play.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I might just cross off New Mexico State and cash.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: They can hang out with San Jose State in the
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: corner or hang out with the guy in the back.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: On the Florida State side, kind of similar to USC.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: The biggest difference between USC and Florida State is who
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: their opponents are upcoming. USC has a cake schedule for
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: most of September, but after this week, Florida State plays
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: SMU and Alabama. So how they approach this game, their
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: next opponents could have a more significant impact. What we
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: do know is Ashton Daniels is named the starter, despite
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: Norvell not releasing a depth chart. He at least gave
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: us that much. $ 500 cheaper than Maiva, similar spot. dual
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: threat quarterback. We've seen, we've seen Daniels run in the past.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: There's again, same, same sort of deal. Chancey only plays
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: two to three quarters, but he's a guy who can
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: put up a ton of points in two to three quarters.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: And he's got one stellar pass catcher that we know
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: in Deuce Robinson, clear number one guy. There's a reason
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: he's as expensive as he is. I imagine he will
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: get more expensive as the season goes on. And then
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: you have Makai Danzy, who's expected to be the number two.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Javen Boggs should be involved. Devin Carter, is a huge recruit.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: They flip from Oregon, who is looking like he's going
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: to be a stud freshman this year. They'll probably get
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: him involved early. Jason Lopez is another highly guarded recruit,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: and you're going to find his name in two spots
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: on Florida State's website because he is a guard for
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: the basketball team as well. What that tells me is
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: he's incredibly athletic. So just some notes to like, if
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: you want to take some shots on cheap guys, don't
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: forget about Devin Carter and Jason Lopez. And then the
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: running back room is probably the more interesting thing. Usame
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Nkroma is going to start. I'm going to stand on
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: business and say he's going to start this game. Trey
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Wisner is in from Texas. But Trey Wisner, it might
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: not be healthy. And if he's not healthy, they might,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: like we talked about it, he's a guy that you
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: might just keep on the bench. We thought he was
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: going to be out. Then Norvell said he was available.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: He's practicing this week. But you save him for Alabama
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: and SMU, right? You don't mess with him against New
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Mexico State. So that opens up Sam Singleton as the
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: likely backup. And then one other point, and then I'll
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: let you guys take over, that Aaron said, are people
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: going to be afraid to play FSU with the early
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: season duds they've laid? Against New Mexico State, I personally
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: don't think so, especially with I mean, no, I don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: think so. I think these guys are still going to.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Get a point spread.
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: With everything, point total, implied point total, point spread, I
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: don't think so. One thing I'll add, so we know
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: that obviously they got some great receivers. Daniels is who
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: he is. He's been pretty decent for DFS the last
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: few years. Mike Morvell, head coach of Florida State, is
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: taking over play calling duties this year for the first time.
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: It's obviously a very desperate coaching room. They're under a
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: lot of pressure, a lot of fire. They have a
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: Labor Day schedule. game next week hosting SMU and they got,
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: they're not close to like, they got to get the
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: fan base excited about this.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And one of the things is he's taken over the.
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: Play calling duty. So will they want to try to score? Maybe,
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: maybe not. That could be some narratives, but it is
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: a shift in a change in regime or, or a
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: thought process culture from the, from the offensive play caller
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: point of view, being the head coach now.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I, I, It'll be interesting to see how early
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: they call off the dogs. Deuce Robinson is still probably
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the best wide receiver player on the slate. He can
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: easily get there in a half. He's so explosive. And
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Danzy's kind of similar. I almost like GPPs. I'll probably
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: be overweight Danzy and match the fields with Deuce. Even
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: though Danzy's going to carry a fair amount of ownership.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: As far as the running backs go, Wisner, I'm just
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: going to take my chances and not even play him
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: this week. But if he's limited, which is how I'm
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: going to play it, or out, I think Sam Singleton
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: is super interesting at 5,100. He shouldn't garner much ownership there.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe if we get Wisner 100% out, he might get
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: a little more steam. But this is a later-in-the-day game,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: and people might already kind of have their stuff set.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: But as far as GPPs, really the only guys that
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: aren't getting ownership would be like Singleton and Boggs. The
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: rest of them were getting plenty of, plenty of ownership
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: and they're all, they're all good plays. But yeah, I just,
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have a super comfortable lane with how
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I want to go with them yet. Yeah.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Certainly another spot like USC where you want to get
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: a piece of that point total. There's just a bunch
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: of different ways you can play it and a Back
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: to some competitive games, and we're going to run into
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: some late hammers here. Hawaii at Stanford. We have Hawaii
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: on the road as a four-point dog. Am I crazy,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: or were they a favorite at one point?
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think they were a favorite, but it's been
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: one-way traffic on Stanford money.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: It's gotten out pretty far.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: It's coming back a little bit right now, but there's
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: definitely been heavy Stanford movement and then injuries on the
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: hawaii side which i know you talked about in a
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: second that's about the cause but it has been one-way
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: traffic traffic towards stanford.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah and then so yeah we'll get into the players
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: micah alejado reigning mountain west freshman of the year broke
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: the school and conference records for most touchdowns thrown by
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: freshmen Eighth in the nation, 284 yards a game. We
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: know the type of offense. Hawaii loves to run and shoot,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: and that benefits the quarterback a ton. Now in his
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: sophomore season, if he hits his progression, it's like sky's
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: the limit for this kid. Could be an absolute stud
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: all year, including this weekend. Cam Barfield is returning in
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: a decent spot, especially if the injuries come to fruition
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: and they are without Pafeli Ashlock. His status is up
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: in the air. We have not thought he's going to play.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: Then there's random rumblings, kind of like Trey Wisner. Oh,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: he's available. Oh, he's going to suit up. He's going
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: to be on the field, but limited. I like just
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: gut feeling. I don't think he plays. So that opens
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: up like Audrick Harris and Devin Alves from Virginia Tech. And,
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: you know, some of these other guys in the wide
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: receiver room. But I think if Ashlock is out, it
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: might push me to Cam Barfield a little bit more.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to build Hawaii as if Ashlock is out.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Reading the quote of what kind of came up that
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: he could play, I can't remember the exact quote, but
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I think it was interpreted kind of wrong. I think
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: he's out for sure. But in that same article, it
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: talked about Kayanoa Carvalho if I'm pronouncing that right, probably not.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: I was hoping you'd have to say one of those names.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: I wasn't going to do it.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Anyways, in that article, they talk about him as being
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: a slot back and, um, that's a pretty good position.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: I think that's what Ashlock is technically listed as well. Um,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: but I kind of like taking some shots on him
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: at 3k. I don't know how popular he'll get. I mean, Hawaii,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: which wide receivers, like there's going to be some shots
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: taken here, especially since Alahata is a solid play. Um,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: harris has the best project uh best prop but i
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: it's i think it's kind of a crap shoot um
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: as far as the running backs go i'm honestly i'm
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: not really interested in barfield i'm kind of interested in
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: rice maybe like sub like two percent um i think
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: he was at kansas state but i kind of i
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: um i don't know i might not even play any
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: hawaii running backs that's probably the optimal move but yeah
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: i uh Definitely don't mind getting a little weird in
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: this wide receiver room and playing guys if Ashlock is
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: for sure out.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, historically you're not rushing to play Hawaii running backs
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: in most situations.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Barfield was decent last year catching the ball at backfield.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: He's got that connection with Alejandro. He's small, but he's
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: definitely a pocket passer type guy. He's a preseason conference
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: player of the year. It's Timmy Chang's.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: Offense, which is that running shoot that spread them out,
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: throw close to the line. So the slot receivers is
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: always a big deal. That's why Ashlock was so heavy
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: coming in. So Carvelo, if he's the guy stepping in
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: the slot, that is definitely interesting. But I would expect
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: him to pass the ball well over 30 times coming
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: from Alejandro.
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: So there's a volume perspective there if you can get
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: that right.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: And then on the other side, I mean, there's opportunities
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: for stacks and runbacks to a certain extent. Michael Ford
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: is the biggest name you'll remember from last year with Stanford.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Workhorse back, expected to be the same this year. He
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: should get a lot of usage. His biggest issue in
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: the past has been health, but it's the first game
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: of the season. He should be healthy. Davis Warren in
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: from Michigan. I did not realize until today that he
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: had leukemia in 2019 and overcame it, beat it before
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: going to Michigan. He did start Summit Michigan a couple
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: of years ago. Wasn't great. 64% completion percentage, but There
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: weren't a ton of yards that came with it, and
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: he did have a bit of an interception problem. But
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: now at Stanford, against not Big Ten opponents all the time,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: we could see a different Davis Warren for sure. And
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: then in the wide receiver room, we've had some projected
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: depth charts, but nothing official. Names that we've seen, Blackburn, Hall, Shaw,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Nico Brown. These last two games, getting information for these
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: teams has been tough sledding this week.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's yeah. No depth charts, of course, like official
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: depth charts. Um, I mean, I feel pretty confident in
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: Michael Ford having a very solid role last year. These
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: teams to play week zero and Michael Ford got a
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: ton of volume. So I don't think there's going to
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: be any like, Oh, start of the season. We don't
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: want to like burn his legs or anything like that. Um,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I'm obviously not interested in Davis Warren really at all
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: for DraftKings. Well, if we knew more about the receiver room,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I might be interested just because they are playing Hawaii.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: But this receiver room, Biggie Blackburn is a tight end. And,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, the reason we put him up top is
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: because that's maybe the only position that we kind of
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: know would be a starter.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: We know Davis Warren can throw the ball that far.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah. You're not wrong. But yeah, these other guys,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: there's some... Go ahead, Ian.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: No, I'll say look at the volume. You know, if
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: you shoot down the names, you know, it's week zero.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: We don't look at the names. It's a running back.
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: Who had 20-plus touches a game last year, catches the
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: ball as a receiver, runs the ball, gets a goal line, carries.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: They're a short favorite.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: They're at home.
• 55:08
  Speaker 8: He's projected to touch the ball 20, 25 times.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Again, he's probably underpriced at 6k.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: It's just, it's like everything kind of leads to that
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: as being a very, very nice spot for Michael Ford.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Just on paper, looking at all those, looking at the numbers. Right.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: And another, another game, if it goes slightly over, you
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: could be looking at the highest total on slate.
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: Sweet.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: So we don't want to go too quickly.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: We're getting close to an hour and I don't want
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: to push this and drag it on too long, but
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: this is a game we have to talk about. A
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: late night hammer. Memphis at UNLV. I don't know if
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: you can see, but Kenny's wearing his Memphis t-shirt for
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: the occasion. And this is, it's three hours after the
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: next latest game. That's got to play a factor. We
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: don't have a ton of information about who's going to
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: be starting. That plays a factor, but projected 30 and
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: a half to 26 point game we know Marcus Stokes
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: is going to be starting for Memphis we think Dallin
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: Hayden is going to be starting at running back Tychon
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Chapman uh has followed Huff from Marshall to Southern Miss
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: to now Memphis so there's something there Timmons is in
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: from Colorado and we expect his name to be called
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: quite a bit Kloos is a familiar name so I
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: How do you approach a game like this? I mean,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: we can just talk about the game overall. It doesn't
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: even need to be the teams specifically because, I mean,
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: on the other side, we know about the same amount.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Jackson Arnold's a starter. We expect Jaden Thomas. Lions and
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Irvin are back for UNLV. Reddick's in from Oregon State.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Troy Stiletto-Heal is still in college. But how do you
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: approach a game like this just overall where you know
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: there's going to be meat on the bone, but it's
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: three hours after and we don't have information?
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: It's a massive game.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Massive game.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, group of six, you know, you got the,
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: the Mount, the mountain West favorite, the American favorite, big
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: implications down the road.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Dan Mullen is pretty proven to Marty. Now, you don't
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: know the Jackson.
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: I almost seems like a perfect quarterback candidate for him,
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: for what he wants to do on a team. That's
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: really produced fantasy quarterbacks for us in the past few years.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: It just everywhere. This game is screaming. This is a
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: perfect play to game stack.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: You know, get a couple pieces from, be able to
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: mix and match at the receiver spot. Just really, really
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: good game environment to really look at and try to
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: get some news on between tonight and tomorrow morning.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely still some question marks to
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: be answered. I feel confident, like, Marcus Stokes is going
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: to start tomorrow as long as he doesn't take a
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: video of himself rapping. And like Dallin Hayden, I really
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: like taking some shots on Dallin Hayden, a hometown guy.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: And then Terrell Timmons from Colorado, a 3K flat. I'm
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: definitely going to be overweight on him. Chapman and Tipton
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: are great options as well. Clues I'm not as hot about.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, the UNLV side, I don't think I'm
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: going to touch these pass catchers, but I did see
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Jackson Arnold supposed to start, even though these guys are
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: supposed to split. I am going to play some Jackson
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Arnold with some Memphis runbacks. You know, if he just
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: kind of gets a hold of the reins and takes it,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: that could be a huge spot late in the slate. But, yeah,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: kind of sums it up. I do definitely want some
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: spots here, but there's still some question marks there. I
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: guess one thing, and this is something you can take
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: with you, when it's questionable between Arnold and Orgy, just
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: always play the more expensive guy so you have money
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: to swap when it's the last game here. Don't play
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Orgy in your lineup. Play Arnold. If you end up
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: wanting to play Orgy, then switch to him later. That
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: way you have some salary flexibility. But yeah, that kind
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: of sums up what I have to say here.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good advice throughout the season. If you're in
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: a this or that situation, always play the more expensive
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: guy so you have room to pivot regardless of what
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: the rest of your lineup looks like.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: So that, that covers the DraftKings slate. We do have
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: TCU in North Carolina and Ireland. Never mind the names
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: on here since it's FanDuel only. That gets adjusted last.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Jack Dalton is not the start of TCU, but just
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: a couple of things to touch on. Bill Belichick likes
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: taking away the number one option for the other team.
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: If you're if you're playing showdown or playing on FanDuel.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: We saw it last year, even though they got blown out,
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: they kind of stopped Eric McAllister at least well enough,
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: but that meant Jordan Dwyer had a big game. So
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: maybe you're looking at that for Ed Small on the
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: TCU side. But speaking of Jordan Dwyer, Kenny, you had
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: some news on him too that you've seen leading up
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: to the game.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess there's rumors that he's hopeful to play.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: I've heard he's in a walking boot there, so it's
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: just something you're going to have to monitor. It's obviously
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: the very first game of the day, but if you're
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: playing FanDuel or DraftKings Showdown, that's a very vital piece
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: of information. I mean, if Dwyer didn't play, I would
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: love me some Ed Small. I know Bill loves Ed Small.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: He would be a really good play on FanDuel. But, yeah,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: that's– I guess one thing about TCU is I think
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: the OC came from Connecticut, and Skyler Bell was just
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: a volume hog there. You know, if Dwyer does play
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: and is all good to go, like he could have
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: a– like there is some ceiling there that he could
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: have a role like Skyler Bell. But, yeah, that's the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: main thing to make sure he plays, I guess.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Just have fun watching this game first thing in the morning.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: All right, yeah, that covers it. Did you guys have
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: any closing thoughts? I know we're pushing time here, but
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: anything of significance we haven't touched on other than just
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: being excited for college football to be back?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: It's great.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: We knew it was tough. I mean, a lot of misinformation,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: a lot of unknowns. Have fun, a lot of values, though, too.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: So keep eyes on news. We've got the best guys
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: in the Discord looking at that.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 8: But have fun. Awesome to have college football back.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: Yep.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Rule number one, have fun. That's all I have to say. Yep.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: And I do want to touch on quickly, too. It's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: not ready for college football yet. We're hopeful it will
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: be this afternoon. But if you're at Ship It Nation
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: and a member there, we have the Stone 2.0 now.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: This is the golf one, but I can kind of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: show you a little bit how it works. You can
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: filter in college football. It's cash, GPP, high upside. In golf,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: it's pivots, sleepers, leverage. And you can pick favorites. You
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: can add guys to your lineup and you can optimize lineup.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: So just a couple of things we're adding at Ship
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: It Nation and college football should be ready soon. And
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: I do want to say congratulations to all the winners
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: this week. Week zero of college football, college football getting started.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: I know we love seeing the Ship It Nation logo
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: up there, but seeing the Showdown Hoedown logo with a
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: 50K win up top, I think is apropos of this week.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: It's just awesome to see that the big guy will
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: be proud of of where we're at, what we've built
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: with this college football program. And then leads right into
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: what Kenny said. The big guy's rule number one, college
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: football is fun. Enjoy the sweat. Enjoy building your lineups.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Enjoy the fact that college football is back on TV
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: and we get to enjoy watching it. Most of all,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: don't take these days for granted. The big guy said
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: it over and over again because we don't know which
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: is going to be our last. Gentlemen, excited for college football.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Glad to be back here with you. Thanks for joining
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: us on this week zero show. Let's go out and
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: ship one for the big guy.