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Rewritten: Roald Dahl Censorship Controversy · Multiple Nerdgasm

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I've just been continuing to be an evil person and all I'm doing lately is
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playing games I shouldn't be Harry Potter and atomic heart so they're the
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two top selling games on Steam right now and they're certainly the most
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controversial so Luke is woke until it comes down to the line and he's got a
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game that he wants to play and then he's like you know no victimless crime victimless
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crime welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy no I I I've I've already defended
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my position on these games I don't think they've got anything to do with being
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woke or not woke it's people being silly I tend to agree in these specific
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instances and I'm I'm willing to back you on that I've also got atomic heart I
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only played a little bit of it um enough to know that future Russia looks exactly
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like modern day Singapore did you did you notice that yes it's it's very
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Singapore but Singapore is often filmed in for the future W play a bit future
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there played a little bit of Tom and I'm liking the alternate Russian because
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we've seen the alternate Germany regular Russia I don't like the
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current Russia but the current Russia is really pushing it luck
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the only thing I think is missing I get I've got to a few places where I I want
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it to be more open world M and more
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explor instead of just going here okay there is stuff I think there is explor
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but it's not like an open world Explorer is it like um did you play
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prey the the newer prey I only played the first couple levels for some reason
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like that do you recall I think it's yeah and pick things up and kind of Sol
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puzles and but it's fairly restricted where you can go and stuff still yeah
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it's very much like that I know I know that I miss something because there's
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this lady you meet and when I meet her again she goes hey did you happen to
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come across this room with some golden rings or something and I go no and I
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went oh that's the end of that conversation and I know I'm not going back
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there yeah ladies like Rings she's like well I'm out of the game then see you
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cuz I thought I was exploring she's like an A damass in uh
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in bond well that's it for me in this mie good to go I'll be walking out this
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door and out of the film yeah so it's a shame but no I'm playing it but I just
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went back to Hogwarts and I'm just doing the mechanical going through and
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collecting pretty hearing about Hogwarts yeah me too we talked about it but not
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as a in the game we only talk about it in the controversy it's a good game
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yeah it's like open worldy kind of thing it's it's very open world is it bully
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with Wizards huge the what Wizards is it bully with wizards no no so you don't
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you're not going to class as much like you do go to class but it's just here to
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learn this new spell and then you go thanks teach no time for that I don't
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break into the girls dorm to steal their panties or anything it's not Revenger
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than NDS can you break into the girls to
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well there there is no the there's no girls and boys all
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right there's downstairs is the Wizards upstairs is the witches all right it is
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they do they do have gender binary in uh Harry poter do in the books right we
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know that and even when you're creating a character you can oh DN you're missing
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out I know oh wait I mean I mean nothing I mean don't read him she's a [ __ ] um
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but I listen to something this week that we'll talk about in a minute okay yeah
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when you create your character you create what they look like what they
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sound like and then at the end it goes are you a witch or a wizard as well what
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do you want the genitals to be wink no no no it's not that it's what what do
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you identify okay right yeah Dan what if I don't identif what if I'm gender fluid
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or gender neutral they didn't have that in the past there's a spell for that got to
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remember this is also set in the past it's not current day okay it's can you
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be can you s can you be house slythering you can be house you can be any other
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the houses evidently house Slytherin is what literally everybody picks from what I've read
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everybody cool one Slytherin Gryffindor
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Ravenclaw and then the best house HFF puff
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snore I'm a huffle puff of course you are the left I'd go Ravenclaw after
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Slytherin buten claw for the smart people yeah Gryffindor like honorable
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people right for get it Slytherin just
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the nice people just in the corner yeah yeah Co we do anything to get ahead if
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you played as a dark side character in the Star Wars games you want
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Slytherin yeah why wouldn't you have played dark side in the Star Wars games
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like because in the older Star Wars games that meant you just couldn't do
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certain quests because it was like Luke's conversation from atomic heart
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where someone would go can you help me and then the dark side option is not
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[ __ ] off and then that's it I remember there was one when playing um that there
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was one Quest where you can either do go on a fetch quest for some Merchant and
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come back and he'll give you something go give me this or I will murder you and
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he just hands it over well in uh Fallout 3 you remember that like
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underground kind of shopping mall that was run by ghouls where you basically
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did all your shopping for a good portion of the game I remember a former co-host of this
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podcast on his first attempt he went in there and literally murdered all of them
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and I'm like well how do you get how do you buy your weapons how do you buy your
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stim packs like where do you get all your corpses Dan took them off he's like
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I just [ __ ] killed a all mate okay all right we did have a habit of tried
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to murder races in games specific races
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deci we should clarify on that fantasy races right not
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yeah it was Orcs And ghouls not you know
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not you know yeah I mean you know you could make certain assumptions
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from that behavior I suppose yeah and you know like playing something like
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Grand Theft Auto I mean is it any worse just going around killing prostitutes as
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it is driving around real slow looking for minorities I only kill the
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prostitutes to get my money
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back and new intro quote from Luke
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all right so Hogwarts is good it looks pretty good do recommend it I'm not
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a I know Luke isn't either so yep Graphics are great the story is
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interesting Y and there's a lot to do so for someone like me who likes to go out
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and do all those Collectibles and stuff like that that mine it gets you can do a
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bit mechanical like me so instead of let it naturally I try and explore the
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entire map before playing the story yeah mhm play it uh yeah I'd probably play it
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but I'm not going to pay for it just because not because I don't want JK
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rolling to have my money uh I guess I just will wait she's not getting any of that money
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I don't think right she's been she's got enough money put it that I think she
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made $100 million off of the first Harry Potter book so I think she's fine that
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they go that what they go to her and go we would like to make a game here's a
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check for the license and she goes thank you and that's it's done done yeah they
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don't even go I doubt she's worried about getting percentage of the back end
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or anything and she's saying no she's saying dumb [ __ ] like oh this game sells
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really well that means everybody likes me well not likes me likes the stuff I'm
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saying about you know funny and it's like she's not serious she's just trying
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to piss you off just a smart and you're making it worse by exactly she doesn't
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genu never heard her speak before this uh I I barely even knew who she was I
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didn't know that her name was Joanne and I didn't know that there's no K in her
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name that that's just a fake K oh really yeah it was when because
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they they didn't want to have Joanne rling on a book they said no one's going
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to buy a book by a woman it worked and uh so they said but you can't just be J
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rolling people wonder why she's an extreme feminist yeah yeah I don't think she's
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that extreme to do I know but but she's very woman F Centric clearly given all
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the Dr yeah yeah yeah she is and I've started listening to a podcast this week
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called Witch Hunt which is uh all about
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her life and story and um she's probably laying it on a bit thick but then again
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she is a professional Storyteller oh is
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this by her it is an interview with her
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so it is her and a journalist exploring her history the history of the books her
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history as a feminist her history as a woman through the lens of what's
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Happening Now kind of thing correct correct yeah right yeah very
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specifically yeah it is interesting um I haven't gotten up to the current
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controversy but it's interesting to hear about her past and about her yeah right
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you know ex-husband who became a stalker and things like that and um yeah I'll
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let you know when I'm up to the part where she starts ragging on trans people
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but um oh it's in it's coming yeah it'll be there yeah she hates them she hates
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them and then when yeah the internet goes from loving her to hating her I
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yeah no because here's the thing hated her in the first place because they
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thought she was evil no right yeah she's finally um hates minorities enough that
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they're right like now she's shaking that she's shaking those people saw the
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other day she's finally on the same side as the Christians but the thing is no no
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I don't even know if she still is I think somehow JK Rowling might be the
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Catalyst to unite the left and the right you know what and the world will be
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harmonized because everyone hates JK Rowling because she had the audacity to
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say aren't women and trans people slightly different and everyone went no
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but the that's the contentious thing is that is that the way she said it I don't
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know people think it didn't come out that way well I even didn't she
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certainly has clarified since then hasn't she yeah yeah fair enough anyway
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I find her attractive I will say nothing's going to bring the left and
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the right together they are far too far apart they really are far too far but
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the point is no middle ground anymore playing this game probably doesn't have
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anything to do with any of that and she had nothing feel it's pretty safe to
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ignore that if you just want to play the game just play the game it
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doesn't if you want to play the Wizard game if I want to play atomic heart but
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I also don't want Russia to continue invading Ukraine am I cool to keep
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playing that or am I supporting the Russian military I don't know about that
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because there is followup this week the Ukrainian government did say that they'd
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like that game banned and they've asked they've Microsoft and and steam like
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valve to remove it they've said please
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this game is in one whether you know intentionally or otherwise supporting
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this game is sort of supporting Russia so I I can see sort of where they might
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be coming from it's because it is sort of showing Russia as because it's in the
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alternative Universal R propaganda and stuff yeah whereas that
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wasn't the idea behind it I'm sure when they did it not only that I don't know
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how things work financially over there but I mean financially this might
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actually end up supporting the government in direct way if you're in
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Singapore and you want to do any art music drama anything you need the
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government's permission and you need them onard yeah so even if you look
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imag you look at Australia most of our games and movies and they've all got
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some support from Mostly so I think it's a shame because I don't
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I do agree you know we've said I think I whether it was in the after party or or
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if we've talked about the main show but I do think it's a shame that these game
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developers in Russia would have to suffer because just because you know
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pu's a [ __ ] well I were riding a bit of a synopsis for a game at one stage
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that we decided we should probably shove until Russia won't yeah a shame cuz I
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yeah just cuz it was set in a alternate reality USSR yeah which you know seems a
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bit on nose at the moment just better to just not do it really yeah
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yeah I mean for these guys I think most of the way through making their game
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when that happened and I'm sure they [ __ ] themselves yeah I mean what are
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they going to do suddenly change it to oh it's China it's alternative China
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yeah right yeah yeah but yeah I just thought it was interesting because I
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only I'd seen that video that we talked about yeah um where that Ukrainian
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YouTuber had said please don't buy this game and then now the Ukrainian government I
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think it's the government right it's the digital Ministry which sounds like it's
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the government to me y right I don't think you wouldn't call it that if it
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wasn't a government thingy right yeah it does sound that way so well thing again
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the Ministry of Sound isn't government no that's the government's techno
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Department M Fair Point yeah I mean you're already paying for
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Game Pass did they get Luke is probably the person most likely does that work do they
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get similar to Spotify they they're not quite clear on
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how it works and I think it's different deals for different things so I think
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like a smaller shudio might get a here's a lumps on payment okay we're going to
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have it on here for this time I think for maybe a bigger game there probably
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is a lumps on payment but then also there's probably Kickbacks for how many
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people are playing it I would assume but they're not really open about how it
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works well look if if it's anything like Spotify they're probably getting [ __ ]
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all money for it so [ __ ] all money will be gold to the
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government yeah I saw a thing the other day about how Spotify is potentially has
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like a limited it's going to have a limited run because not only are they
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not paying anybody they're not making that much money either it's basically
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running itself into the ground as time goes on because they're they're driving
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the basically it's a race to the bottom yeah as far as like the money goes no
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one's paying for it any would consider paying to listen to music anymore
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yeah see I I would but it's like you inconvenient to just not be able to put
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what I want on whenever I want you know got used to it I use um Google so I use
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like the Google YouTube premium which also gives me Google music but then I'm
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also getting YouTube without the ads and yeah yeah so that's why I sort of go
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that way that way it sort of goes I get both oh I might get that actually cuz I
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pay for YouTube premium do I get the music then you've already got YouTube
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music then yeah right well I use actually I use apple music most of the
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time anyway I pay for the Apple thing see I stopped using that a long time ago
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but I keep it there for just the things that aren't on Spotify there was a
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reason I started oh because there's an app on my iPad called Marvis that I like
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that I use with an only works with apple music so but I still pay fory Jenny uses
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it so everyone's they're all out to make money that's why they all do it this way
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where we're going to have this every we're sort of in the middle of
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everything but there's something special that you want that everyone's going to
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have their own I don't know that there is that for Spotify for me it's just
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seems to be the one with the most which is probably the only reason I also still
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have Netflix because it's also the most reliable as far as I can tell like apple
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music like I said I'm using it but it's not as reliable as Spotify I find like
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Spotify tends to just work the others all seem a bit flaky to me there's other
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thing you could do is just buy the music well I do that too sometimes from where
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where would I buy it at this point I don't even know JB HiFi go buy a
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CD iTunes you can still buy music nowhere I could put a CD in my house you
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could buy an external c r drive for stuff all or I could Contin
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playing $11 a month for my premium Spotify yeah I wouldn't be able to I
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don't know where I would play a CD at this point can I play it in the
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Xbox yeah yes okay there you go yeah you can play it in the Xbox I've got an
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external CD ROM drive but yeah that's got an external R drive
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1998 yeah I've no because sometimes I like to go and get achievements in like
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old windows Games with Gold games games of Windows Live it's called and I have
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to run off the disc the actual disc I bought one because I wanted to rip my
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DVDs and then realized that's [ __ ] redundant
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the quality on those is sueded by streaming now yeah it really not like 4K
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Blu-rays and stuff no but my drive doesn't do those it does DVDs DVDs yeah
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the only reason I rip some CDs is because it's stuff that I know is not
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going to make it to I have yeah like they're never picking this up yeah I got
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but I can listen to skull speaking of uh or speaking of skulla not really do you
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know frel ROM have a new song coming out what is with that
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uh yes cuz fox trky actually did the um animation for the new film clip really
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what's the song called is it called punching the dick or something it's a
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sequel the punch in the face um yeah listen if you don't know they
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have there's a Australian Punk B called friends of and their famous song from
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when we were kids as as I recall was punch in the face
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yeah um where is he AR of fox so the new
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s single was where drug dealers take their kids there you go even better than you
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thought perfect yeah they're older now more mature J still a singer Jay from
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yeah yep Nat was the drummer I believe somebody I known was friends with him
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Nat the drummer anyway um you were talking about external drives and I know
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that you've been buying some other external drives this week to um
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potentially work with some old tick I've um yeah I've bought a few things uh what
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do you want to hear about first I want to hear about your commodor
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64 Things this week no it hasn't arrived yet other peripherals associated with it
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have arrived um and like these boxes keep showing up and it's funny too
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because there's something else we're going to talk about I've been running
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around the house going the future is coming to Jenna and she's like the [ __ ]
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are you talking about cuz there's another thing that I bought that she
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didn't know about right um and she's is some com 64 [ __ ] I'm like like
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that's the past yeah but the future is coming so anyway I've got uh I've got
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haven't got the commodor itself I've got the SD drive now this is like a new
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commodor 64 it's not like a an original no it's an original commodor 64 it's an
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original okay original I wasn't sure if it's was like a pal Commodore 64c which
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is exactly what I had when I was a kid they came out in 1984 MH this one has
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been recapped which means they replaced all the capacitors because over time
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those deg grade uh and I also ordered a new like brand new just manufactured
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power supply because listeners if you're thinking of digging out your old
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consoles you might want to consider replacing the power supply because they
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degrade over time too and they can just burn your cons sh yeah yeah they'll just
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send a spike through and just destroy your console so mhm um so it's shipping
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from Hungary I think yeah okay cuz it's pal so I had to find one in a you know
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European country yep uh so it'll be here at some point and I'm excited oh and you
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know what it did arrive hang on o we get to see
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something I hope it's beige this oh oh
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wow this is a an original box of uh the ultimate Trilogy for commo is that an
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original box correct that is in how much was that I need to ask sorry cuz that
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looks amazing it's got all the original maps and [ __ ] in it oh wow and uh what
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size are discs oh they five and a qu yeah five and a
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quarter so the c64 for 100 bucks oh wow that is that's actually quite good
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that's what I thought that's why I was like I think I'm going to buy that mate
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you can you can get original games disc only from that era for 50 60 bucks so
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the fact that it's boxed it's a triple pack I was like I think this person
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doesn't know what they have there yeah yeah they should have held out but um
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their loss is your gain so does your c64 have the built-in um 5 and a qu inch
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disc or no it's got no so originally what I was going to do is get the c64
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and then get on the advice of perifractic from retro recipes uh get
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the which I do have the SD card adapter oh yeah so it's like a modern device
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that you plug into the the back into the tape slot or the I think it's the tape
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jacket in the back mhm um and just read stuff off an SD card yeah yeah so I have
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that and that's what I was going to do then I was watching more of his
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videos and then and you want to play from the stock tapes that you can get
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exactly and I was watching his stuff and then I was on the Goodwill website which
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is kind of like you know like salvos um and I was like there's a lot of old
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Commodore 64 stuff on here including
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there I bought a tape drive and I I was
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so my comod 64 we didn't have the official disc drive yes we had something
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else and I couldn't remember what it was so I was like I'm not going to worry
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about it cuz I don't need it and it's not going to give me a kind of like that
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Nostalgia feeling yeah unless you got the same exact one until I was watching
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Fair practic [ __ ] bedroom 80s bedroom Recreation video and he hands over his
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desk and there it is my [ __ ] disc drive so I just had to look in the
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comments at what it was and bought one found it nice and of course any tapes
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coming so for those of you who are confused um the c64 could play 5 and A4
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inch floppy discs it could play cassette tapes which yes games did used to come
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on cassette tapes um interested at some point yeah you
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should I'm interested there was also you could they released games on cartridge
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that you could put into the peripheral slot in the back of the machine y um and
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then also if you didn't have any of those you could still play games because
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old c64 magazines used to just come with pages and pages of code which you could
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manually type in and then play the game with that code name and that's what
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people used to do turning around and there he is okay y there he he's got the
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book like one of these books yes exactly this is and that's how a lot of people
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actually learned to code island of Secrets that's how I learned to code and
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it's it's how you learn to be careful when you type [ __ ] in because otherwise
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you spend half an hour typing it in there and it won't work work and you're
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like what have I done and you've accidentally put a slash in the wrong
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direction or mhm haven't closed something off and you could only play
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that game on that machine until you wanted to not play that game anymore and
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play another game you couldn't just and not only that when you're when you're
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programming on a com 64 you type you have to type the line well in com 64
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basic anyway you type the line number and then space and then the code if you
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type a line wrong the only way to fix it is to know which line you typed wrong
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and then type again with the correct line number like you can't go back like
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yeah it's not like today where you can sort of go back and sort of just like
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you type the line and then it goes into the computer's memory and that's the
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line right so so you don't have to tell us if you don't want to on air but I'm
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very curious what you paid for the c64 uh 200 bucks oh [ __ ] wow that's very
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good okay so I I've been looking for an Amiga but you cannot get an Amiga for
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less than 600 bucks the 500 or the 500 the 500 is the one I want cuz it's the
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one I had same same thing I want the full Nostalgia and I also don't want
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the um the joystick that most of them were packaged with I want the random
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third party joystick that my dad happened to buy from Gamespot on the day
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he bought my Amiga you know oh look at that yeah see there you go
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beautiful um but it would cost me a th000 bucks to get all of the bits and
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pieces I want yeah yeah so cuz I was going to go down to I think I told you
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guys I was going to go down to there's a vintage computer fair in New Jersey M
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and I was going to go down with the intent of just kind of looking at some
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stuff except it's 3 and a half hours away M so I'd have to stay overnight
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really for that to be feasible which means I going to have to stay at a hotel
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or something and really the purpose of going would be to spend more money on
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[ __ ] yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't do that
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and you would definitely find stuff you wanted to buy because I'd be like I just
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drove 3 and a half hours buy something and then once I buy one thing it's like
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well I can't just buy one thing now the thing is too in the states Commodore was
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not as popular as it was in Europe UK and Australia so you're not going to
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necessarily find a lot of commodore stuff you probably find ataras te stuff
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if you want that same kind of era yeah
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or the um the Tandy coco or the amstrad that were more popular in the states
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than the Commodore TRS mhm yeah yeah the trs8 so I mean you might find some
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awesome stuff but it might not be exactly what you're looking for not only
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that the um Commodore 64 most software because for that reason most software
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was written for the pal systems so if you have an American com 64 some stuff
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just doesn't work properly so true I mean it's not that much stuff but it's
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just a thing to bear in mind that you might be best buying a power one anyway
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since if you going hook it up to a modern TV it doesn't matter anyway
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that's right you just but just note that you will need a power converter out of
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your AC yeah oh be very yeah or it'll
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explode in the same way as uh luk fridge luk fridge [Laughter]
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exploded so that's okay so that's the past that's what I bought from the past
27:15
so what's the future the future is coming fure the future is something I
27:18
pre-ordered at the same time as I bought my PlayStation but I didn't tell
27:22
anyone okay and it was the psvr2 arrived
27:27
this week so is that I need to ask is that caed yes it is yeah it plugs into
27:33
like a like a USB C port on the front of
27:36
the yep so you're so how is it it's
27:40
[ __ ] amazing so it has arrived oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah okay yeah I've been
27:45
using it a video on this too I've been playing the Star Wars
27:49
game yeah and so oh it's It's [ __ ] amazing so there are some controller
27:55
issues that do make it a bit [ __ ] cuz I really want to play it but you can't
28:00
like I can't pick things up with my right hand in the game for some reason
28:04
it's just jerking off mat just stop jerking off use both hands there are
28:09
widespread controller issues it's it's a software thing they work fine in the
28:12
menus but then when you get in a game for some reason they go hey why and in
28:16
my that's a big bug to ship with yeah I know a because I was like like why can't
28:23
I I can't grab a door I can't pull a lever I can't pick up a gun with my
28:27
right hand and it's just that the controls and it is a widespread thing
28:31
it's not just yeah I double checked cuz I was like do I have to RMA this [ __ ]
28:34
thing no software apparently huh at least it's software yeah yeah that's s
28:40
of bigger pain but yeah I'm enjoying it it's like I said it's amazing when you
28:44
first load into a game and you look around oh it's [ __ ] incredible and
28:48
cuz like it arrived and Jenna was like oh God I said no no no it's going to be
28:52
cool and I played it and I was like oh it's so good she's like sure sure and I
28:54
said come on come on try it and I put it on there and she was like oh my God m
28:58
like MH and then cuz I mean our living room is not that big you can't walk
29:02
around a spaceship right right yeah so you kind of have to use the controls to
29:06
walk around but Jenna I guess forgets and just starts walking around and I'm
29:11
like I'm like who who there's a wall there like yeah it's like that's how
29:17
most of it is you forget that you're not it doesn't do what the it doesn't do
29:20
what the Oculus does where it Maps out your room and then doesn't let you it
29:24
does but if you ignore it like she does so my nephew's got you're trying to hug
29:30
a a gonk Droid sure which you would yeah of course those Little Cuties oh man I'm
29:37
jealous I want it um I nearly bought don't have the space for it yeah you
29:43
need room the only thing with it is that there's a there's a back catalog of psvr
29:48
stuff but it doesn't work on this because this is like completely
29:51
different it's the controls are completely different it's all which was
29:54
a big thing for starting to do to go hey we're releasing this and it's not backs
29:58
were compatible with the thing you've already spent hundreds of dollars on
30:01
yeah but it's got Resident Evil Village so w well that'll be [ __ ] terrifying
30:07
and I tried to load that up but the controllers didn't work at all oh no
30:11
which is a known issue at the um I don't know mentioned on this podcast I know I
30:14
told you guys off air but i' I've finished village now what a what a
30:17
[ __ ] game what a great game it does do what they all seem to do is which it
30:21
just falls apart at the end though where suddenly it goes you know what for the
30:25
last act play as a different character like no I want to finish the [ __ ]
30:28
game as myself man what is this with my Prime I will I'm going to play after I
30:34
finish um Hogwarts and atomic heart but I was just thinking about something you
30:39
could do if you went down to New Jersey oh yeah you could drop invite a shared
30:43
universe and see about their podcasting stuff shared Universe you know about
30:48
that no so it's a smog Castle thing so it's SM so Kevin Smith he set up a
30:53
podcasting studio in New Jersey so you can hire a studio out and then you can
30:57
also go and they can help with like um advertising and stuff like that oh
31:02
interesting maybe I'll consider that Luke you didn't uh You' still got to
31:08
complete uh number seven though
31:10
right number seven sorry Resident Evil 7 one with theget if I finished I think I
31:17
finished it did you escape from the house and then end up on a big boat yes
31:21
I did so I had finished that then maybe you have okay yeah so eight is very
31:25
different in some ways it's OB it directly continues on but the tone is
31:31
very different well they they're just using the Resident Evil name now it's
31:36
nothing to do res oh yeah no there no like at all this is werewolf and
31:40
vampires no zombies in it at all it's
31:44
still seven was very serious like I I mean you know there were still mythical
31:51
creatures in it but it it was still felt very grounded in like real life um this
31:55
one just goes [ __ ] it it's full fantasy I know that you went to back and you
31:59
went I'm going to play from the start and went back to like Resident Evil yeah
32:03
that remake is like art direct so it's PR ter so okay so you can
32:09
so I've got it on the switch and you can play it with the original controls which
32:13
is one stick turns your body and the other stick makes you move like a tank
32:20
you move like a tank exactly right yeah and but there's what they call Modern
32:24
controls too but I'm doing inverted commas because it's
32:29
strangely intuitive in that because it's fixed camera for anyone who doesn't
32:34
remember if you walk out of a screen you walk into a new shot like a film and
32:39
your angle could be very different it could be the opp right Y which means
32:44
that if you are going forward in the old controls you still
32:49
just keep pressing forward if you're facing the right way cuz whatever way
32:52
you're facing forward is forward forward but in the modern controls
32:58
which feel more like modern controls if you switch directions you're actually
33:02
going backwards when you're still pressing forwards so it it's easy to
33:07
start doing but then when you start thinking about what direction you want
33:10
to turn you're almost don't know which way to go cuz I remember trying to play
33:15
it it wasn't good I remember starting Resident Evil 2 when they did the remake
33:18
of that and that game looks amazing and felt good I never for some reason
33:21
continue to play it cuz that's what I do but I reckon you Skip One and just go
33:26
straight to two yeah I probably will I wanted to go all the way through just
33:30
for the story and also one was 30 bucks and and two is like 70 bucks so I've got
33:37
if you wait for a sale you can pick up two and three in a pack okay yeah all
33:41
right interesting I I know I wanded off bit for a bit there but I assume you're
33:45
talking about you finished the village and went back to play Resident Evil 1
33:48
mhm I did the same thing and I went no yeah how do I walk around yeah and
33:54
that's why yeah with two it was a rebuild and it
34:00
plays nostal even though the the graphics are completely different
34:04
doesn't look anything like you know the PlayStation version that we all played
34:09
but it's still got those weird like angle camera angles and stuff that is
34:15
dated only to late '90s early 2000s horror games hill does the same yeah
34:19
exactly yeah so I I did at the time was amazing like loved it at the time but
34:24
you can't go back to it when you've been what with what we have today yeah it's
34:30
hard um I've been playing something else m a little bit uh dreams in the witch
34:34
house that game I sent you uh I sent you guys a link to the
34:39
trailer yeah I popped it into my uh wish list but I I haven't played it yet so
34:44
it's it's Windows only which at first I wanted to make sure that I could
34:47
actually play it it does run in parallels on myc runs fine so uh I've
34:54
been playing it and uh it's it's it's really cool it's like a point and quick
34:57
Adventure game mixed with kind of like like you know like stardew Valley
35:03
kind of thing almost in a way where you can like you're at college at Arkham you
35:08
can go to class and you have like you can study and pass your exams or you can
35:14
work on your mathematical theorems back at the apartment and stuff and it's is
35:18
it um what's the name of that University that's always in the Lovecraft
35:24
um msonic M mesonic University University yeah that's what it is yeah
35:29
oh that's great yeah yeah and you're in the um I mean you're obviously the
35:33
character from that game from that book short story rather you're in that
35:38
apartment so I haven't seen anything Supernatural just yet oh there is an
35:42
occult collection at the University that I'm not allowed access to that I assume
35:47
at some point I will be oh yeah cuz you walk around and there's like um as you
35:52
walk around the lobby there's like a statue of uh you know the little Barrel
35:55
creatures from mountains of Madness M I think there's a statue and then he's
36:00
like that's a bit weird and then it says You must you must study the occult more
36:04
to know to know more about this oh that's great oh man
36:08
see a little bit role playing game I'm going to get it out was what's it cost
36:14
now it was it's not that much 10 bucks is it no it wasn't 10 bucks here but let
36:18
me let me see that's that that's in American money we deal in expensive
36:24
money it's really good or your loose chains as it now yeah that's right okay
36:29
I'll look yeah I'll look later I won't it's not I'm not far enough into it to
36:34
know if it's like longterm good but just no it just seems fun you'll like it
36:39
you'll like it put I've played all the Lovecraft games and not all of them are
36:43
good mhm you'll like it I'm sure of it Luke you won't because there's no
36:48
achievements so unless it comes to Xbox it's no no good to me probably won't
36:53
come to Xbox listeners I'll link to the trailer in the show notes check it out
36:57
very cool yeah it's cool I know some stuff does come through the window side
37:01
oh that's true their Windows side is getting better um they have achievements
37:06
you know what's not getting better and that's the books of R Dal which are now
37:11
being censored for their next round of publication um they may end up because
37:17
they're they're woke now Luke you can't okay so a character like Augustus Gloop
37:24
right from Char in the Chocolate Factory what is his what is his most defining
37:29
trait yeah he's he's a big fat boy well you can't call a boy fat anymore so now
37:34
you just have to tiptoe around it say that he just likes food and has eaten a
37:39
lot of it and it shows he's a foodie he's a
37:44
food um so people are Furious of course um sawle that said wokeness gone too far
37:51
and that r d might not have been the nicest man during his lifetime but his
37:55
books have beloved for years but I'll remind you that this is not the first
38:00
time his books have been censored because we many years ago discovered on
38:03
this podcast that the OA lpas were only added in in the second round of
38:08
Publications because in the first round wiie Wonka's factory was staffed
38:13
entirely by black slaves yeah they were slaves like yes yeah I think it was it
38:19
was as specific as as Dan is saying yeah in the original and there were
38:23
illustrations of it as well correct and they changed so it's not like there's not a prec
38:30
foring this I read an article that was um basically saying that the the whole
38:37
appeal of his stuff is that it's there is a kind of cruel it's a bit nasty yeah
38:43
exactly to get cruelness to it and to remove that means it's just not going to
38:48
be yeah he did that he did that to really shine onto the the heroes like
38:54
there's nothing cruel about Charlie bu if you change the tone of it yeah then
38:58
it's not the same thing is it I mean I mean changing the lumpers didn't change
39:03
the story whereas this kind of does I I feel like I I still I don't quite
39:08
understand it because the whole thing is like he was gluttonous like all he did
39:11
was focus on food which is something that they don't want kids to do now cuz
39:14
that's unhealthy still well that's just one example too right isn't it there's
39:19
like a whole lots lots things because all his books are like that yeah
39:24
hundreds of changes y
39:28
H it's just the way he wrote stories yeah yeah that's right now of course
39:34
it's not I mean there you you could argue that the way that stories used to
39:39
be written is not the way we write stories now that's fine but these are
39:43
books now don't just change the stories write new ones do what Sesame Street did
39:49
when they started putting on their sort of older shows and go filmed at a
39:54
different time yeah cuz remember like original C like people running through
39:58
construction sites and but you've got to start from the right place right you
40:02
can't just like course correct you know 50 years later and go but also just
40:07
change bits they've removed the word black as a descriptor for a tractor
40:13
because they don't want that associated with race and it's like well nobody
40:18
thinks a black tractor that's one of those things that I can never tell if
40:21
that's true or not cuz I've heard stuff about that that you're just not we're
40:25
not going to be using that word yeah you're not meant to
40:28
the color I know I know why obviously but still yeah that's a bit weird what
40:34
color is then uh now they just say a murderous brutall looking
40:42
machine it's the Terminator to be clear it's a tractor they're talking about a
40:47
tractor he will keep coming he will never stop he can never be reasoned with
40:52
sorry they replace the word black
40:56
with with that uh-huh uhhuh that's cool all right yeah synonyms
41:03
Matt I know what's another word for black oh murderous uh brutall looking
41:09
monster I think someone just went a bit they gave this to an intern who just
41:13
went crazy yeah this is what everyone this is what this is what crazy people
41:18
say like this is what people are worried about and we go no one's that stupid and
41:23
then this happens like oh [ __ ] exactly now I can understand
41:28
why in the year 2023 you might not at an American High School where kids are just
41:34
learning about stuff and don't know about history you might not want them
41:38
reading Huckleberry fin which throws around words that you need strict
41:43
guidance on I don't think they should be banned but you definitely need to
41:48
explain the context to them or kids are going to take it the wrong way it's like
41:53
when I was a kid and I saw kids on the bus flipping the bird to people outside
41:57
inside the bus and I just started doing it cuz I didn't know what it was I was
41:59
like those cool kids are doing it I'll do it so and I've got I've got a book
42:04
report here which I kept mhm where I going to read that out are we yeah where
42:08
I dropped the N I'm just going to thr this out there instead of changing the
42:12
books maybe change the curriculum yeah maybe do a new book yeah that's what I'm
42:18
saying that's what that's what I was trying to say before is that that I feel
42:20
like you can't just like take a book that was written
42:23
like a certain way and then just kind of change it just write book yeah or or
42:29
pick a book something else or if you if you're going to do like black history
42:34
start with tequila Mockingbird and then when they've learned about that if
42:38
somebody's really smart really in read Charlie the Chocolate B yeah then say
42:43
and look what happened to them yeah yeah no I think it's the wrong
42:50
way to go about it well lots of countries is this just the British
42:54
publisher um but a lot of like France and and and stuff have come out and
42:58
going we will never censor R doll yeah yeah again I'm not suggesting that you
43:04
know if if the books have controversial stuff in them then I don't give them to
43:09
the kids then right give the kids something else to read until they're old
43:13
enough to understand context yeah well there's the thing where parents need to
43:18
actually be responsible actually understand what they're giving their
43:21
kids and maybe go are they ready for this or do I need to read this with them
43:25
and have a conversation with them yeah yeah here's one let's let's look at this
43:29
one so in the witches um you know the boy's grandmother is describing what a
43:34
what a witch looks like and the the the catch is they look like everyone else
43:39
you know they could could be anyone and she says a witch might be working as a
43:44
cashier in a supermarket or typing letters for a businessman right it now
43:50
says a wit might be a top scientist or
43:53
running a business okay because
43:58
previous a woman couldn't rise above they'd only be a SE could aim for mind
44:04
you this is a book written in the 80s I mean that seems that seems fairly
44:10
inconsequential so I guess I wouldn't that that doesn't bother me too much and
44:14
also like like still it's a bit weird but all right I the point in changing is
44:20
I I get where they're coming from but but also you're not reading the
44:26
witches for EMP like can they write the if you that grandmothers and
44:32
grandfathers are a little bit sexist and racist so
44:37
yeah I mean I guess I don't care can I just say I I loved Ral do
44:43
when I was a kid like he 100% my favorite author for and as I grew up I
44:48
read his his his older stuff too like there was that one about how he went to
44:51
boarding school and all it was called boy yeah there you go as I got older I
44:56
read his other stuff yeah going solo which is about his wartimes and then of
45:00
course he wrote he wrote a James Bond movie he wrote a lot of adult fiction he
45:05
wrote for um don't if it was he did write a bunch of anti-Semitic stuff at
45:10
some point did he okay that's disappointing he um did he yeah that is
45:16
a shame that's a shame that's a problem yeah I've got nothing to say about that
45:20
that's that's not good um he wrote this not in Char in the Chocolate Factory he
45:24
did yeah yeah well maybe it's subtly in there I don't know but um he wrote this
45:30
great sketch which has been filmed four or five times it was an episode of
45:34
Alfred Hitchcock Presents initially um
45:37
where a man um has to flip a coin to get
45:43
another man's sports car or get his finger chopped off and it got remade a
45:49
couple of times in a couple of other different kind of Twilight Zone esque
45:53
shows and then Tarantino put it into a movie called four rooms which is an
45:59
anthology film from the '90s which is also very since the great movie it's
46:04
excellent but um but that segment was written by roal Dal way back in the day
46:08
great author and now now it's called squid games so I I haven't seen squid games oh
46:14
you a you definitely should but B we talked about there being a squid games
46:20
reality show being made based on the reality show that the fictitious drama
46:25
show is about saying that it couldn't
46:28
possibly be as hardcore as this game in the show
46:34
M hardcore and it's not but evidently that the treatment was appalling and
46:40
people the contestants are suing the producers of the show for how they were
46:44
treated so I guess they really did try and did they not watch the Netflix series know
46:49
right I'm sure when it comes out like I'm signed up for a a competition called
46:53
The Running Man yeah I know I mean I don't like running that much but I do
46:58
like money so I watched that recently what a great movie great movie and also
47:03
what I didn't realize I think when I was a kid is the guy who hosts the show
47:07
inside the the movie is actually a real American host I think it was Price's
47:13
ride or Wheel of Fortune at the time so you would watch him at 4:30 in the
47:18
afternoon doing his familyfriendly thing and then would go and see that movie
47:22
yeah and it's the same guy playing the same character but like murder in
47:27
contestants the movie didn't really make much
47:31
sense the reason why he's in jail the bad guy it's sort of like they framed
47:37
him for murder well they framed him for
47:40
mass murder Yeah Yeah by by editing by
47:45
editing a transcript of him going I'm not going to shoot them there's innocent
47:49
people right there and then they edit him like innocent people I'm going to
47:53
shoot them I'm going to shoot them the original Deep
47:59
fakes that's right yeah Luke have you
48:04
seen Ant-Man yet I haven't because I forgot that it was out yeah okay yeah I
48:09
think a lot of people have forgotten that it's out yeah I think some people
48:12
wish they had I think some people went saw it and then forgot that they they
48:15
saw it I know anman just he a great side character like I loved him in the movies
48:22
where he was sort of there but Ant-Man and stuff I don't think the on where he
48:27
stand there in the background I've got no problems with release in Captain America it was
48:33
Civil War that he was yeah when he got amazing [ __ ] hilarious yeah and then
48:40
there's the Antman movie it's and it's just it's missing something yeah it is
48:46
not good there bits I like about him and then I and then I try and remember the
48:50
plot and I'm like I don't remember yeah I just remember some funny bits that he
48:53
did there was the the big train thing and then it that just falls off the second one was
49:00
funnier than the first one I remember at least thinking well this is this at
49:03
least got some better jokes in it with uh Michael
49:09
Douglas kind of as the straight man he was kind of funny think he may have
49:12
Tangled with my wife while you were down in the quantum realm I would never do
49:15
that Hank I respect you too much
49:20
exactly good [ __ ] mhm I forgot about that but yeah I completely forgot this
49:25
one's out and I was going to go through but oh I probably I might still go if I
49:30
get bored one day I think that's the tagline on the poster go if you get
49:35
bored one day get bored while you're here leave I guess something where you just looking
49:41
for something to do and you go I'll go to the movies for a couple hours those
49:44
days are Godly [ __ ] no no so see I don't have small children I can just do
49:49
that I could leave right now did you saw walk kind forever yeah yes okay cuz I
49:54
the thing I read actually said that um people were complain that first of all
49:59
the movie wasn't very good and second of all the special effects in the new Ant-Man are
50:04
noticeably bad that's been something that people been trying to bring up for
50:08
a while that they're sort of starting to phone in the special off and somebody
50:12
apparently someone on the effects team uh commented to the Press about it and
50:16
said yeah that's cuz as wakanda forever was getting close to deadline they
50:22
pulled everybody off Ant-Man to work on that and then Ant-Man never ramped up
50:28
again enough for it to put the res back yeah I've uh I've not heard great things
50:34
about wakanda forever either and I watched the honest trailer for it you
50:38
know that channel honest trailers and uh when I saw what it was I was like yeah
50:43
I'm glad I skipped this actually this doesn't look like something that would
50:46
interest me in the slightest it's on Disney plus you can just watch it I guess if
50:50
you I I have to be very bored I was confused for a big part of it cuz
50:56
thought the Black Panther was going to be in it oh he she was luk she
51:02
was yeah in the last 10 minutes of the movie doesn't she get she not the Black
51:07
Panther oh she's not no she doesn't become the Black Panther oh okay what
51:11
does she become she's she's on the poster and she's black black [ __ ] cat
51:15
no no cuz they set I in black [ __ ] is that what I'll find they're setting
51:20
they're setting it up that his son will become the next Black Panther cuz you
51:23
find out that he had a son in the credit who did he have it with a woman oh a
51:30
woman during the end credits he had I don't remember yeah he was watching
51:35
anman and he got
51:37
bored yeah yeah Sor listeners sorry
51:42
about the what kind of forever spoilers iedit is not a spoiler in my defense I
51:47
haven't seen it so but honestly if if you wanted to see and you worried about
51:51
spoilers from six months ago that's fine I know I've had opportunity to watch it
51:58
yeah it's on you mhm you know my rules I
52:02
was going to but I didn't no the next one I'm looking going to go see
52:07
definitely will be Guardians yes I have very little interest in anything that's
52:13
not Guardians yeah from not just in
52:17
general I think um shangi was very good but yes shangi was excellent the quality
52:24
of them all in General's kind of dropped off and so I feel like it's going to
52:27
take a lot for me to espe to go to the movies I'm not sure I bother anymore the
52:32
problem we really have at the moment is there's nothing tying them really
52:35
together to push the story forward at the moment it's all
52:39
just it's all Standalone movies type of thing whereas where where's the big
52:45
baddy actually the last one I saw the movies was Multiverse of Madness and I
52:49
have no regrets about that oh yeah speaking of which that was excellent
52:52
Guess who's coming to Rhode Island ComicCon this year oh
52:57
Bruce Campbell
53:00
no Sam Ry Samy oh that's rad even well I was going to say better than Bruce
53:06
Campbell for me yeah what would be amazing is if they both came my
53:10
daughter's named after him so that's a photo I'm going to be getting although I
53:13
am going to feel a bit weird about that cuz you hold my daughter we named her
53:16
after you I just want a photo of you and my my toddler thanks
53:22
Sam is he gonna do photos though yeah I don't know if he will do photos cuz
53:29
he's not no he won't do photos Samy
53:34
he'll definitely not not in the same way that the other actors and things do
53:39
photos I'd be surprised if he's not up for trying to think because there's some
53:42
pretty CGR actors who still do the photos no no but that's what they do for
53:48
money but that's what I mean but it's Sam Ry would definitely does need money
53:52
is that what he saying he does no he's not I think he think if you've he seems
53:59
like the kind of person who would be appreciative and like Photo if you get
54:03
to meet him he'll do the photo but I mean he's not going to have like the
54:06
photo sessions oh I see what you're saying right well I don't think I would
54:10
do that anyway I would just go up and say Here's 10 bucks actually I bet he'd
54:14
ask you walk up and throw your daughter at him and go hold they um they don't
54:18
control the pricing anyway actually I found out oh is that right Lance
54:21
Hendrickson um was like weird about it
54:25
huh because I had to pay for the photo
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with him and he was like sorry like like because I think he's he's someone who's
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just genuinely pleased to have the fans and stuff like that and I think he gets
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paid regardless so yeah to be there oh okay so the the con dictates what they
54:44
think each person's worth and then I guess takes a cut of it they dictate
54:48
that and they also said and it's actually they've clarified this quite
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significantly in recent years is that you're not allowed to record your
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convers with them like it's not for interviews yeah so this even the stuff
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that we used to do with um people like Bill diamond and and um you know some of
55:05
the comic authors and artists that not not allowed to do that anymore like
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James James AAR I was going to talk to James AAR no not allowed oh wow I can
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talk to him and I can tell you what he yeah no no no if I if if they find out
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we got see James Oar one did you yeah oh
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wow um is he still sad
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or is he Che up no he looked
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at um I mean can you blame him but um
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there was one uh was last year's Ral comic but there was one comic with the
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the company that organized sent out an email afterwards and said whoever
55:45
interviewed Tom Arnold on the floor yesterday get in touch with his
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immediately reminded to everybody you are not allowed to do that oh wow so
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like I don't know what the [ __ ] Arnold said wow to these people can only
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imagine what Tom Arnold said I was like I bet he said something [ __ ]
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controversial and then was like [ __ ] what have I done yeah hey just say you
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know I did an interview just now I may have committed a crime I just
56:14
find it very strange I could understand they have the rules and that like you
56:18
have to get their consent and stuff but just the blanket rule of no seems I
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guess it's just because that's not I guess they do specific press stuff and
56:28
they want to eliminate yeah you put them on the spot in a way cuz actually we
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asked um Mina suari if she'd mind
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chatting to us on recording and um her publicist who was with her said Oh no
56:40
just because she's not prepared for that she doesn't know what she she might say
56:43
something yeah exactly you might yeah what if I ask her oh how' you like
56:46
getting your tits out for Kevin spy like I me that's the first question that's
56:51
what I would have asked yeah no that's why I do you mind ask you about what it
56:54
was like tit up spy she looked at publicist and publicist went oh probably
56:58
better not what's it like being the one person who consented to being with Kevin
57:05
spy so yeah I can see why they don't
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want you yeah yeah now that like no idea
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who you are yeah exactly what the [ __ ] am I going to ask him yeah [ __ ] Mary kill
57:19
go they can just pick anyone yeah this is what sorry this is what I ask all
57:24
celebrities cast of yeah no no it's what going to do to you right now you
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[Laughter]
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choose um yes oh no it's all right Jenna
57:37
Jenna hat the story sari is from Rhode Island okay and uh so I said um because
57:44
we were chatting I said oh yeah you're from you're a local you're from rhod
57:46
Island at yeah and she goes yeah yeah and Jenna goes oh me too and then she
57:51
goes yep cuz we at r on ComiCon yeah and was
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and then afterward J was like I feel like such a God damn it of course we
58:03
are no I'm with Jenner I stand with Jenner on that one i i s to say like Ed
58:09
yeah like yeah but for I can where she's going like if it was in another city or
58:14
something then it's yeah oh yeah but then it's everyone here who RH Island Keithan
58:20
said oh he was like have you seen the new Kevin Smith movie and we were like
58:23
nah and he goes oh I'm in that and then I said oh who do you play in that and he
58:27
goes I play Keith kougan go who's Keith
58:34
kouan that's on him he should have said I play myself that's yeah he set that up
58:41
he thinks he's more famous than he is not everyone knows Keith
58:47
Ken yeah that's good um sorry Jenna she
58:52
doesn't listen to the show anymore I bet she doesn't
58:57
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59:00
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59:05
Afterparty this week on behalf of the listeners can we please do a funny after
59:09
also got some Harvey Weinstein uh
59:11
followup sake yeah um what uh what is
59:16
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59:20
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59:25
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59:29
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