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#354 - Adam22 · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Blutleg cav podcast Man special guests in here. My guy,
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  Speaker 1: he's here. He's the hottest man on the internet.
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  Speaker 2: Am I. I mean, I'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: In more than one way.
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  Speaker 2: Adam twenty two bootleg keV. How you doing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good man. I can't complain, brother, It's so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So yesterday we're in my studio and I was like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Adam twenty two is coming on tomorrow. I told my
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  Speaker 1: producer and there was like this random white dude in
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  Speaker 1: the studio and he was like, oh, that's the guy,
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  Speaker 1: right who like let the dude fuck his wife? And
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  Speaker 1: I was like yeah, and he asked. He was like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know who Adams twenty two is. Like Otherwise
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  Speaker 1: he's like, now what does he do?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? It does feel like that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people who just found out about me from this, which
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  Speaker 3: is it's.
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  Speaker 1: Good for your business? Yeah, How has the metrics changed
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  Speaker 1: in terms of like just just like on a basic level,
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  Speaker 1: like let's say just your ig And since all this
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  Speaker 1: happened with Lenna, you're what?
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  Speaker 3: I think I might have gained like fifty thousand followers
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  Speaker 3: on Instagram in like sixty or.
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  Speaker 2: Seven on Twitter, So.
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  Speaker 3: Just obviously that doesn't like matter that much, but it
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  Speaker 3: is kind of indicative of Oh, okay, there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of new eyeballs on me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious too, because, like I've seen obviously, I just saw.
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  Speaker 1: I think I just saw something on TikTok Lenna on
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  Speaker 1: why you guys chose Jason Love. Okay, how long was
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  Speaker 1: you guys get married? Yeah, beautiful wedding was in Italy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it looked crazy, thank you. And then you guys appeared
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  Speaker 1: to have gone on the most elaborate honeymoon slash family
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  Speaker 1: vacation ever.
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  Speaker 2: That is the most baller shit that we've ever done.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like a month, right, there.
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  Speaker 3: Was so much money, the nicest hotels ever. It was
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  Speaker 3: like just surrounded by real deal rich people and how
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  Speaker 3: much like you drop in the month? Oh, probably six figures.
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  Speaker 1: Six figures on the honeymoon. Yeah, damn well, it looked
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  Speaker 1: like it for sure.
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  Speaker 2: It was fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And then you guys come back, and it feels like
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  Speaker 1: this kind of happens, not necessarily right away, but it
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  Speaker 1: feels like it almost happens rather quickly.
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  Speaker 3: We have been talking about it basically since the beginning
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  Speaker 3: of the year, around January, we did like a TikTok
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  Speaker 3: with Jason Love while we were at the av end.
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  Speaker 3: I remember saying that, yeah, and it went crazy, just
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  Speaker 3: us joking around about the idea of her sleeping with
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  Speaker 3: another guy. So we already kind of had the idea
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  Speaker 3: in our head, and we had an idea of like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is going to be viral, like really viral like
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  Speaker 3: this this this might be just the thing we need
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  Speaker 3: to sort of switch things up and get people really
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  Speaker 3: really excited about it. But we definitely didn't know to
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  Speaker 3: what extent it was going to explode, because she had
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  Speaker 3: a dollar amount in her head that she told me
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  Speaker 3: at one point, and she has to date made like
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  Speaker 3: fifty dollars fifty times.
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  Speaker 1: That the dollar round, meaning how much money she thinks
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  Speaker 1: she would make if she were to do that clip and.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and then it's like that times fifty. Whoa, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like it was so much bigger than we ever would
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  Speaker 3: have dreams.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is what I was going to say, because
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  Speaker 1: like I would say this dude, like it feels like
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  Speaker 1: you guys really plan this out in such a meticulous way,
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  Speaker 1: and I've I feel like you've done such a great
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  Speaker 1: job of like mastering the virality of this moment.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I get being a public persona a
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  Speaker 3: lot more than I ever did before. And I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I get going viral a lot more. I feel
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  Speaker 3: a lot. It's ironic. I feel like this gigantic man
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  Speaker 3: putting dick in my bitch really kinda like helped me
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  Speaker 3: to like rediscover my voice because I feel like so
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  Speaker 3: much less scared or intimidated or worried about what I
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  Speaker 3: say on camera or whatever. Like, after the insanity of
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  Speaker 3: all this, it just feels like, oh.
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  Speaker 1: Like you could say whatever fuck you want at this point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like, oh, Soldier Boy said something about me on
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  Speaker 3: live or I'm gonna go off on Soldier Boy, Like
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  Speaker 3: oh fucking Cowboys said some lame shit about me on podcasts.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go off on Cowboy Like I'm just not worried.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, even just like my Instagram comments, I
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  Speaker 3: was always kind of combing that shit and just like
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  Speaker 3: restricting people who would say rude shit or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: And at a certain point during all this, it just
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  Speaker 2: became like.
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  Speaker 1: What's the point of even looking at this shit?
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  Speaker 2: Who cares? Yeah, I used to like wake up and
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  Speaker 2: search my name on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done it.
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  Speaker 2: That is not happening anymore.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do it anymore. It's over now, it's over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty Yeah, it's crazy. Well I was going to say, like,
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  Speaker 1: when you guys sat down and said, Okay, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do this, did you map out the promo? Did you
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  Speaker 1: map out Okay, we're gonna do this, this and this
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  Speaker 1: leading up to it, and then afterwards we're going to
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  Speaker 1: do this, this and the like, how much of like
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  Speaker 1: some of the content we saw was like absolutely planned,
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  Speaker 1: because a lot of it felt like I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're like you were, You're really turning up and like
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  Speaker 1: mullan into a lot of this.
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  Speaker 2: Most of it wasn't like planned, plan like in advance.
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  Speaker 3: It was mostly just me and her kind of just
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  Speaker 3: talking about it and rolling with the punches and just
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  Speaker 3: seeing what happened and like you know, you know, like
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  Speaker 3: I had Okay. It was like there was one day
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  Speaker 3: where Jason Love did an interview a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 3: ago and basically it was like kind of talking spicy,
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  Speaker 3: being a little bit disrespectful. This was not planned. This
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  Speaker 3: was just him and not knowing how to act or
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  Speaker 3: not knowing how to deal with the spotlight, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie. Like when I first seen it,
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  Speaker 3: I had like a day where I was kind of
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  Speaker 3: thinking about it and I was annoyed. And then like
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  Speaker 3: as I was going to bed that night, I just
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  Speaker 3: pictured in my head me making a TikTok in which
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  Speaker 3: I threatened him and blacklisted him from my wife's vagina.
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  Speaker 3: And I was just laying in bed by myself, just
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  Speaker 3: laughing so hard thinking about the idea of me making
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  Speaker 3: this TikTok. And then I woke up the next morning
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  Speaker 3: and I made the TikTok and I got like five
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  Speaker 3: million views. And I don't know, it's kind of been
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  Speaker 3: that over and over and over where it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: like you have no reason to like get emotionally involved
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  Speaker 3: in this or whatever. You can just fuck with people
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  Speaker 3: and troll people, and the end result is that people
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  Speaker 3: don't really know what was real and what wasn't real,
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  Speaker 3: because there was like little parts of it there but
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  Speaker 3: it respected.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of trolling, like a lot of like
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  Speaker 1: you know, like you said, like that video you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about like when you're like you're banned from LA, like.
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  Speaker 4: You're bad for my husband yeah, it was just like okay,
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  Speaker 4: all right, well uh but but like you said, it works,
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  Speaker 4: and like I also want to like because obviously is
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  Speaker 4: there there has there been any real world complications because
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  Speaker 4: we I mean, I don't believe I mean, anything we
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  Speaker 4: see on the internet, I don't really look too much
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  Speaker 4: into because you've kind of mastered the internet, right, Has
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  Speaker 4: there been an actual any like real world complications in
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  Speaker 4: terms of the attention, Like has it made it harder
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  Speaker 4: for Lenna to do certain stuff?
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  Speaker 1: How does her family feel about everything?
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  Speaker 3: Like is I mean, our families are really cool about
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  Speaker 3: it in the sense that our families have never mentioned
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  Speaker 3: the porn thing to either of.
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  Speaker 2: Us ever ever.
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  Speaker 1: Wait wait wait never never, like like your whole time
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  Speaker 1: being together, it's never gotten brought up.
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  Speaker 3: I'll hear about some shit here and there, Like I'll
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  Speaker 3: hear about, Oh, my mom said something to my sister
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  Speaker 3: about it, and like asked her a question about, like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: why is Adam on the cover of this you know website?
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  Speaker 3: Or like why did why did the New York Post
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  Speaker 3: post about Adam buying a Lamborghini.
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  Speaker 2: Which is not not real? You know, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: even my.
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  Speaker 3: Close friends thought that there were like A few people
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  Speaker 3: have come over my house and been like, where do
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  Speaker 3: you keep the Lamborghini. I'm like, oh, yeah, that video.
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  Speaker 1: Well I wasn't gonna say that because would hit me
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  Speaker 1: and you were like, hey man, you got some prop money?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because I was going to give her like
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  Speaker 3: one hundred grand or two hundred grand at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: but I couldn't find any prop money. Yeah. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: our families just don't mention it. They're just kind of
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  Speaker 3: too polite.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like the elephant in the room a
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  Speaker 1: little like when you go over to the Armenia and
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  Speaker 1: get togethers. It doesn't get brought up at all.
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  Speaker 3: No wow, which is crazy, right, Like they just are
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  Speaker 3: too polite, which thank god, because I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: fuck talk about that shit with them, and that's all.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna one word answer the fuck out of them.
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  Speaker 3: If they did try to bring it up to me
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, I'm just gonna laugh and roll with it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so there really hasn't been anything too like,
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  Speaker 1: like I mean, obviously you guys, I mean you've always
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  Speaker 1: been kind of famous, like in the last seven years,
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  Speaker 1: eight years, right, it's been, but twenty fifteen sixteen when
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  Speaker 1: you really started.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I started No Jumber in twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 3: and even before that, I had like ten years of
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  Speaker 3: being this very prominent BMX personality which kind of like
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  Speaker 3: allowed me to get used.
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  Speaker 1: So it's safe to say, like six straight years you've
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  Speaker 1: been kind of like a thing on the you know where,
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  Speaker 1: like my kid knows who you are, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, like look like it.
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  Speaker 1: But I would say now it's different, right.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely feels like we hit like a different level of that.
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  Speaker 3: And even today we announced that we're doing this thing
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  Speaker 3: that's like a YouTube slash only fans live stream where
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  Speaker 3: basically we're going to do a big ten person podcast
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  Speaker 3: with a bunch of porn stars, and then the other
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  Speaker 3: room we have an OnlyFans live stream going at the
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  Speaker 3: same time. So it's basically gonna be like an orgy
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  Speaker 3: with a big group of people.
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  Speaker 1: And they're just swapping.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of going back and forth in and out and
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  Speaker 3: like the comments, like like, it just feels like there's
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  Speaker 3: so much more attention on everything that we do porn
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  Speaker 3: wise now, but at the same time, we also just
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  Speaker 3: have this massive wave of hate with everything we do too.
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  Speaker 3: But like on Twitter or TikTok, getting comments and getting
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  Speaker 3: hate is like one of the biggest things that makes
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  Speaker 3: your shit viral get promoted. So like, I have random
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  Speaker 3: condomic clips on my TikTok now that have like three
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  Speaker 3: million views just because like a couple of thousands the
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  Speaker 3: people stopped in to say like, haha, you're a cook
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  Speaker 3: or you know, you're a piece of shit, or you're
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  Speaker 3: a terrible parent or whatever. And I'm like, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 3: if all I have to deal with is this, and
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  Speaker 3: you guys are gonna make everything I do go viral, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: There are certain things that are like, can you explain
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  Speaker 1: to me some of the unwritten rules or code of
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  Speaker 1: the porn game, because you would share some information that
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  Speaker 1: we won't talk about off camera the last time I
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  Speaker 1: saw you, uh huh, some details about your video or
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  Speaker 1: Lenna's video rather with Jason Love that we won't talk about.
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  Speaker 1: But there is a code, right like, and I think
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  Speaker 1: you said that Jason Love maybe broke the code a little.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, nobody has ever explicitly told me that there's
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  Speaker 3: a code, but I definitely feel like there's an expectation
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  Speaker 3: that you keep it a little bit gangster in terms
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  Speaker 3: of the whole porn thing, because if you're on set,
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna see.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of weird shit.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're gonna see dudes having to jerk their
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  Speaker 3: dick off for forty five minutes to get hard. You're
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  Speaker 3: gonna see guys having a pop eye aggress to get hard.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to see, you know, girls who are there
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  Speaker 3: on their period so they have to go and like
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  Speaker 3: shove some fucking sponge thing in there and to clean
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  Speaker 3: out whatever kind of stuff might be in there. There's
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  Speaker 3: all kinds of shit. And like, I realized this because I,
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  Speaker 3: like the one time I did an anal threesome with
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  Speaker 3: Riley Reed and my girl back in the day in
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  Speaker 3: our backyard, which is kind of hard to imagine now.
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  Speaker 3: We probably wouldn't do that these days since we have
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  Speaker 3: like a family and everything. But you know, there was
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  Speaker 3: some some leakage, some shit flying. You know, it's happened,
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  Speaker 3: and you know I had a turd on my knee
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  Speaker 3: at one point. Stuff. And then I went on the
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  Speaker 3: podcast that week and I just talked about it, and
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  Speaker 3: my girl had to tell me, like, yo, like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think girls are going to necessarily want to do
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  Speaker 3: anal threesomes with us, if you're just going to be
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  Speaker 3: airing out the grossest things that happened, And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that is a really good point. And so anything like
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  Speaker 3: messy that happens on set, I feel like it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of our responsibility to not talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: If a dude can't get hard, it's like we're.
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  Speaker 3: Not going to clown them, We're just going to kind
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  Speaker 3: of ignore it. To me, also, probably within the porn
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  Speaker 3: guy's code should be like you don't like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: especially if a fucking well known dude like me is
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  Speaker 3: going to let you fuck their wife on camera for
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  Speaker 3: porn content, you should probably not be critical of him
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  Speaker 3: in any way, or.
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  Speaker 1: You might be respectful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't do this weird like dick
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  Speaker 3: comparison thing or whatever, even though obviously yeah, you have
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  Speaker 3: a huge hog. But it's like, you just don't need
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  Speaker 3: to say that. And I feel like, now if we
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  Speaker 3: shoot with any more guys, that will be very much
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  Speaker 3: a conversation is like, Okay, this is the this is
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  Speaker 3: the way that we can talk about this, and this
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  Speaker 3: is what we can and we need this, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to stay on the same page in terms of all this.
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  Speaker 3: But I feel like he he he got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of hate for maybe not beating it up right and
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  Speaker 3: that I guess he probably had never dealt with that before,
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  Speaker 3: so he was probably trying to compensate for that by clarifying.
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  Speaker 1: And like, on your end, you're probably like, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, thanks for not like, yeah, I've seen like
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  Speaker 1: some of these fucking scenes this guy's and he's fucking
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  Speaker 1: you know, And I thought about that.
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  Speaker 3: After, like, oh wow, Like I kind of got off
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  Speaker 3: easy there because you know, I didn't really think about
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  Speaker 3: what kind of sex they were going to be having beforehand,
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  Speaker 3: and the scene that they did was very much like
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  Speaker 3: very you know, an easy entry point for me in
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  Speaker 3: the sense that it was not yeah, some Brian Gosling
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  Speaker 3: hot shot hot shot hookups or whatever the fuck that is.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like the most aggressive type of porn obviously.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I guess he did kind of
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  Speaker 3: do me a favor in that Regred.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to h Is he gonna come on the podcast?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what the fuck he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: I heard he like flew to Toronto to do six Buzz,
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  Speaker 3: So who knows what they're gonna ask.
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  Speaker 1: Him, he's just he's just he's he's he probably this
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  Speaker 1: probably raised his profile to like a I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: was already a pretty popular guy, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, But the weird thing and porn is like you
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  Speaker 3: could be really popular and porn and then you're still
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  Speaker 3: kind of like a regular person to most people.
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  Speaker 1: Right, especially if you're a dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, especially if you're a dude. And even like
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  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes I think about that, like I can't
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  Speaker 3: get a little baby interview, I can't get a car
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  Speaker 3: interview or UZI vert interview, but it's no problem for
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  Speaker 3: me to get a Savannah Bond piece of content or
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  Speaker 3: Angela White or all these like super huge girls are
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  Speaker 3: much more approachable and like, you know, humble than the
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  Speaker 3: top rappers.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, what is the like expectation now moving forward,
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  Speaker 1: is this, are you guys gonna make her doing the
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  Speaker 1: dude seeing a regular thing.
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  Speaker 3: We're definitely gonna do more of it, But I would say,
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  Speaker 3: like the frequency is probably the thing that's kind of
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  Speaker 3: up for debate that we're still kind of figuring out.
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  Speaker 3: And like, you know, there's some stuff that I really
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  Speaker 3: don't mind at all, Like like I probably would have
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  Speaker 3: been real nervous about it before, but like me fucking
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  Speaker 3: her with another guy, I don't really like feel any
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  Speaker 3: type of way about that anymore, Like that's no problem,
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  Speaker 3: Like I would definitely do that.
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  Speaker 1: Would you do the would you do the DP?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like that's on the bucket list.
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  Speaker 1: But then that's like a dick.
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  Speaker 3: On dick Yeah, And you know it's like, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna fuck a dude keV don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't listen. I don't want you to fuck it.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're gonna do the DP, there's no way
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  Speaker 1: that your guys dicks don't touch or ball slap or
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  Speaker 1: just you're crossing swords.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta do it one time before I die, Okay, I.
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  Speaker 1: Mean you gotta do I mean, obviously you're married, so
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: it's gotta be.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: On leg bumps another dude's leg. It's like whatever we
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: all been in the gym locker room before or whatever.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: But also like I don't know, like it's got to
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: be a homie. I think it's got to be something
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: I'm like real cool with.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: Would you ever do anything with the trans porn star?
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Even if it was like fucking your wife with a
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: trans porn star?
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: I don't feel like I want to turn our sex
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: life into a culture war thing, you know, probably just
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to like prove my wokeness or anything.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: And I fuck with a lot of trans women and stuff,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: like I have had a lot of them on the podcast.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: I had m ros on the podcast.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I think I saw a little bit of the you
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: guys did like a panel, right, it was like.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I got to meet a lot
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: of really cool trans people in that situation and everything.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: But my whole thing is like I'm not really trying
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: to do anything on camera for money that I wouldn't
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: want to do it really in my private life as well. Yeah,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: so like I don't you know, and even like I'll
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: like I'm not personally really like mega attracted to a
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: BBW that's like four hundred pounds. Would I maybe do
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: it on camera? Like maybe, yeah, like that doesn't so bad.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Would you pop a blue chew?
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I might have to pop something I don't know, Yeah,
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: my Papa Energy drink, my popa C four.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Let's not give them any free fucking publicity here, right,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: That's why I have their logo turned away from this
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: guy's over here. Got the Celsius on the floor. Man,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: we're over here drinking fucking energy drinks like a couple
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: of real white guys, like a.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Couple of real Arizona and New Hampshire white boys.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Right, oh shit, now, you know. The one thing I
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: would say is like I've you know, I have for
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: whatever reason. I think people think we're like a lot,
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: like we're cool. Like I think me and you are cool.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I think we're friends, you know. Like, but I have
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: so many people in my life life that came to
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: me like I'm like your representative and they're like, yo, son,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: what's up? But your boy? And I'm like, at the
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: end of the day, this guy's a professional porn star
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: who's fucked however, many hundreds of women since he's been
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: in his relationship. To me, it's not that big of
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: a deal, right that she gets won.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is weird because it's like, yeah,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I have fucked all these chicks with her, and nobody
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: really like ever made a big deal about it, like
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: you know, and.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: It's a double standard thing. And it's also kind of
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: because we're like we're in hip hop culture, and I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: think that's where it kind of like people are like yeo,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: like bro.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, and I expected like hip hop to have
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: strong opinions about it, but I didn't really expect there
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: to be like twenty Barstool articles and you know.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: To have like Andrew Tate, Logan Paul all.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: These people like discussing it in depth on their podcast
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: and shit, you know, I didn't expect to have everyone
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: in the whole world having conversations about it, which surprised me.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: There was I want to say, I saw an old
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: interview clip. It might have been when you were on Flagrant.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Were you pretty much I could be You're right.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I shut the door on it.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: You pretty much shut the door hard on Like what changed?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Which is weird because maybe a year before that, I
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: remember I went on Academics' podcast and he asked if
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I would ever do a threughsome with another dude and
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: my girl, and I basically like left the door open
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: for it and was just kind of like, you know, yeah,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I would be open to it, like I would be
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: interested in it. I didn't say that I was going
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: to do it, but I said I'd be open to
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: the idea. And I remember, even at that time, just
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: me suggesting that I would maybe be down for it
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: was so viral and such a big thing, and academics
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: freaked out and could not believe that I was acknowledging it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: And even though I'm glad there was a clip I saw,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: like because I talk on interviews so much that I
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: forget what I say, but I'm glad I said the
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: same thing. I said, like I would consider it, you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, like the clip went viral, tho it
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: was me saying that I definitely wouldn't do it, which
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: is pretty funny, but uh yeah, I mean what changed
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: is basically just me getting a little bit more open
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: minded as time went by, and like, you know, me
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and her talked about like swinging off camera and like
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: hooking up with like a different couple together or something
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: like that. Take a Friday night, go out on the town,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: get a hotel room, something like that maybe. But then
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: we were like, well, if we're ever going to do that,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: like we probably should film.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: It, and if we're gonna we should make some money.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you should probably like make your first scene with
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: another guy, like a big blowout thing.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Paul's The swinging world is crazy. My cousin and his
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: ex wife were swingers when I was growing up, okay,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and I'd be at his house and this shit would
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: just be going down. Bro. I'd be like fourteen to
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: fifteen with all my homies from school and we'd be
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: watching his wife fucking chopped down on another Chick'd.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Be watching it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Oh yeaheah, fourteen, He'd literally my cousin literally be like, hey,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you guys, go outside and just I'll leave the do
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'll leave the window cracked. Wow. Shout out to James,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: James crazy.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I feel like you have a duty if you're living
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: that lifestyle to not have fourteen year olds around.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Well, it was yeah, yeah. My cousin James was like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I think he was like twenty one at the time,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: so it was we were like more friends than like
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: he was like my og, but they were they were
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: they'd go to these like retreats and they would go
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: to these resorts and like, yeah, it's like a thing, bro.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Like I mean, because Zumy sent me a link to
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: a book about polyamorous relationships that because I've never read
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: about it or researched it or even really thought about it,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: because me and my girl are not polly in that sense,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Like we just do porn with other people.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: We've do it for content.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and even like you know, we haven't hooked up
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: with another girl off camera in probably like three four
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: years at this point, so it's definitely like not something
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I'm super familiar with.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: We've just been doing it for content.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: But you know, even like my girl yesterday, like we
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: were on the Jason Lee podcast and she just kind
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: of said like, yeah, you know, if you were on
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: a trip and you ended up fucking some girl, as
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: long as you told me, like or as long as
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: you were safe about it, I.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Don't think I would really care that much. I'm like, wow,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Like you're you're progressive.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Your mind is changing a bit, because I remember when
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: me and her first guy in the relationship, she made
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: it very clear like you're on tour, you're on the
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: like if you're on the road, yeah around, but yeah,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: she was like, I'm not really fucking with that anymore.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Like I could get away with it for the first
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: year or two of our relationship, but then at some
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: point she's like, I'm not fucking with that. I'm going
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: to leave you if you just fuck some cheating right,
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: like it's actual cheating, you know. But like apparently she's
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: kind of softened up on that a bit, although I
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: don't really trust these hose enough to even do that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be in a hotel room alone
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: with a girl.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: You know, you'd be on fucking read it with your
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: ass out.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I don't trust these bitches at all, not even that
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: this is gonna lie and I say that I did something,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially with you bro.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I like doing content with her because then
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: I have a guardian who's actually like observing it, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: nobody's able to ever. And that's why even if I
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: was going to shoot form with just me and another girl,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: I would definitely have like a real filmer, so at
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: least I could have you have a witness.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned earlier that, like there was a certain
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: point in time where you said, Uzzi, Cardi, you're not
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: getting these interviews. I remember the really nobody is but
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you're right right, Yeah, that's that's a fair point. Like
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: big Boy probably to get Cardi. B oh, I meant
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Playboy Cardi, but yeah, oh Cardi, Well yeah, you never
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: did Playboy Cardi ever.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: He came to the studio and stuff when we were
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: still downtown, and like I remember I even had a
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: conversation with him at a concert and or a show
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: rather in like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, where I was like, bro,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: let's do this interview, and I remember he was like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I ain't trying to do no long shit. I'll do
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: a twenty minute joint.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I did like a twenty minute interview with him at
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the radio station. It was horrible.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: It was hard, tell you too.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: It was like talking to like a piece of drywalls.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: If you watch that Big Boy interview he did, it
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: is fucking the worst thing ever.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, like it's always weird with shit
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: like that, where it's like, fuck, if I had just
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: tried a little bit harder, I could have a Playboy
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Cardi interview from twenty sixteen. That's fucking crazy.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: But I probably have like fucking thirty million views or something.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I probably did, like you know, a million other interviews
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: that were easier to get instead of working on that one.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: That was like I was gonna say, like, obviously, you
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: have a huge platform. You still have a very important platform,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: but there was an era in which your platform was
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: literally you had a fucking record deal. Your platform was
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like a career maker for up and coming artists.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Because in like twenty sixteen, there were so few options
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: for an artist. Like the perfect example of it is
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: six ' nine, Like I met six nine and twenty
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: seventeen or some shit, and then he proceeded to harass
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: the fuck out of me for like six months or
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: eight months or some shit, trying to get an interview,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: and then finally he did the song with Trippy, which
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I felt was like, oh, okay, he's actually becoming a
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: real thing.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: So I did the interview with him.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: But that was his first like song that really like actually.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but I remember I showed that to hell
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Rel and he wasn't feeling it at the time. But
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you know, six x nine had to go to somebody
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: like me to try to get an interview, whereas like
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: even right now in New York, I can think of
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: like eight different platforms that he could go fuck with
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: if you're on the radar, yeah yeah, it's like there's
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: so many different people that you could fuck with, Whereas now,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: like if I get a lot of hate for like, oh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: you changed your shit up and didn't just keep doing
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: underground artists interviews. What I think people don't realize is
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: that No Jumper as a business would never have lasted
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: in the long run if I just kept doing only
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: underground wrapper interviews, like building out casts and hosts and
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: expanding into doing interviews with comedians and YouTubers and porn
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: stars and whoever. Like I needed to do all that
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: shit in order to like keep the boat afloat, you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: because the media space just became so flooded so fast,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and even especially now where everybody wants to get paid
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: for interviews and shit. I mean, like like in terms
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: of like really ambitious ones.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: No, for sure, I'm not sure how bandman Kevo try
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to crack me for like ten grand and I laughed.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I literally said, loll I'll pass.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: So what that is amazing? Yeah, I know I get
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: hit with that all the time. But people want five
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: or ten grand who are like have no business asking
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: for money, and I'm just like, wow, the game is fucked.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: But I was going to say, like, because like you said,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: like you did, I mean, obviously everyone should evolve, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the business model for you as evolved. But I remember,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: like even talking to like you'll go back to that
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen twenty eighteen era of No Jumper. I remember
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: talking to Sasha, who I think you would were talking
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to a certain point time, maybe doing a No Jumper festival.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You had the single you were you were so dived
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: in on the music. Do you remember was there like
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a point in time or a moment that you can
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: kind of point to where you were like, I gotta
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: be more than this if this is gonna really last.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I guess I've just always been like doing everything I
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: could possibly do to try to keep the brand going
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: and keep the brand afloat and keep content going, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: just figuring out how I could make content on a
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: regular basis that would do well with the audience and stuff.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean definitely me getting canceled in
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: twenty eighteen was probably the biggest factor in terms of like, oh,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: now you have some percentage of artists that are not
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: going to want to fuck with you because they're on
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: some woke.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Because they have this perception of whatever happen because that's
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: when you lost your deal with Atlantic.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Right exactly, And they even like, you know, the it
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: might not be them, but like they got a manager
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: and this manager is trying to scare them out of
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: working with us because of the fact that I've got
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: my own bullshit or whatever. So I think that was
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: definitely one moment where it became like, oh, you're gonna
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: have to really figure this shit out, because maybe your
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: initial game plan is not it's like a little simple.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: It's not going to work.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Out necessarily if you just stay focused on just talking
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: to these underground rappers, you know. And I always just
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: I always was ambitious in the sense of just wanting
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: to talk to everybody. And sometimes I do go back
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: in time and think like, well, what if I had
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: just interviewed the cool up and coming wrappers and I
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: had just kept my shit super selective. I think the
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: brand in terms of its coolness might have persevered, like
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: it would have seemed cooler, like more of a of
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: an honor, more exclusive. But at the same time, I
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: just felt like all of these competitors springing up all
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: around us, and it was like, I just am not
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: gonna be able to just do this underground rapper thing forever,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: because even back in twenty eighteen, I could feel that
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: it was slowing down pretty dramatically in the sense of
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, there was a
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: new underground rapper every fucking day.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: It was also like an era of SoundCloud and underground
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: music that was like not being represented I guess as
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: to where, and like the ig blogs hadn't really tooken
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: all the way over.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean now, it's just there's just so
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: much shit. It's tough to stand out. And like a
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: lot of the best content that I do now is
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: just bringing interesting personalities together, whether it's like the consistent
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: personalities on the channel or you know, like yesterday I
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: had a destiny the Twitch streamers Dude and Whack one hundred,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Like who.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Would have thought them to whatever sit down?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: So I would say, like I was so happy. I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: was just geeked up off that, just like I cannot
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: believe that I has brought these two motherfuckers together. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm always just kind of trying to think
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: of stuff that'll be interesting for people like that, because
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: you just don't have a new Trippy Red or a
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: new little Uzi or a new ex to talk to
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: every week. You might get a couple of those a year,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: but it just doesn't you know, they just don't happen
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: that often.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: That's crazy because if you think of like I think
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: it's somebody like your early relationships with guys, like ex
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: with Juice WRLD you know, when Juice Wrar was alive
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: obviously legend. Has there been any of those relationships that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you carried into twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: where you're like, maybe this person switched up a little,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Like I can't get this person on my platform even
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: though I was there with them at the studio or
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: going on it, you know all the time.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I hear I talk about that all the time,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: how he was the first person who Amigo's interview.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I feel like it's different though. I feel
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: like it's different though, because I feel like you actually,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: like we were with these guys, like I remember seeing
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: your vlogs or you'd be at shows like you actually
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: were like hanging out doing drugs with guys.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: But like all the dudes early on that I had
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: these strong relationships.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: With, they're dead pretty much.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say they most of them passed away.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And even by the time you get to twenty
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: eighteen or twenty nineteen, I think of like, oh, I
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: did Jack Harlow interview when he wasn't really on, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: that I assume has a lot of views, and it's
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: like pretty sick that I got a Jack Carlow interview
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: early on. But it's also like I hung out with
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Jack Harlow for five minutes before we did the interview,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: and then we did the interview, and then I hung
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: out with them for five minutes afterwards, and then I
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: never saw him again after that. I just I don't
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: build these crazy strong friendships with the artists in the
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: way that I used to, which sometimes I look at
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: people like you, who I feel like, you do really
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: good with the relationship side of things because you're in
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the clubs and you're booking these dudes, and you with
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: the radio is a really good way to like maintain
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: these relationships and stuff. And a lot of the people
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: that I look at that I kind of have regrets.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, how did I get a Suicide Boys.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Interview with millions and millions of views and then I
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: never went out of my way to hang out with
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: them ever again after that, even though I got this
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: crazy piece of content super early in their career, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: it's really be because I was just focused on the
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: next thing, and like, you know, sometimes I regret that
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't do more to like nurture relationships. But also
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: it just feels like there's so many potential relationships because
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: of the fact that I just interviewed so many fucking
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: people and I'm so busy that you know, That's one
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: thing I miss about the stores that I would just
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: have a lot more like casual interactions with people and
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: it was just kind of happening all around me, whereas
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: now it's like I really kind of rely on my
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: publicist or dming people to get content going.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're because you're also not like going out like
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you used.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: To at all.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I haven't been out like I used to see.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I used to see you and your girl shit all
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the time, concerts, fucking festivals, whatever it was.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Guys, Like Saturday, I have a premiere for my BMX brand.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: We have a BMXTVD coming out, and I know I'm
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: gonna have to be out of the house until like
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: at least eleven, and I'm trying to like steal myself
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: in preparation for that, because being out of the house
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: until eleven just sounds kind of fucking crazy to me.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: At this point in my life.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: I just yeah, But then at the same time, I'm
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: talking to Jason Lee yesterday, and I'm realizing this motherfucker
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: has great relationships because he's still in the club and
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: he's he's still out here. He's into his forties, but
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: he's still like finessing those relationships on a nightly basis,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: which is something that I have completely neglected and I
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: should really probably do more of it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I've just come to the point in my life where
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: any relationships I already have, I try to water them,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you know, like plants. And I'm not interested in going
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: out anymore. So if I don't, unless it's somebody who
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I really fuck with, you know, or like someone who
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: like I'm a fan of, you know, Like I don't
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: care if it's an album release party, I don't care.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: I'm tired twenty sixteen, Like.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: There was an album release party last night that I
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: would have went to if I had known, but I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: got hit up last minute, like be A be as
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a homegirl, Like she's cool, right, I fuck with Bea,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: But I was already at the crib. My wife just cooked.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I'm like already planned a bike ride exactly.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm like, damn, and especially with the kid
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: think because it was like my kids waking me up.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I got six in the morning. Yeah, my kids waking
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: me up at six in the morning. And it doesn't
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: matter if I go to bed at four in the morning, or.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter you're getting up at six, you get nut.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: And it's like, and especially like I have a wife.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: She she will take on all of that responsibility of
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: taking care of the kids and everything. But I don't
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: feel like that's fair for me to just put everything
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: on her and be like, no, I'm sleeping a couple
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: hours later, just so that I can, like, you know,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: recover from the fact that I had a fun night
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: last night. Because like twenty sixteen, if it was a
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Friday night, this was the era of like underground warehouse
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: shows in LA and stuff, and there would be like
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: some random fucking soldier boys show in a warehouse and
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: like the ham on Everything era, and I would go
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and I would see people I knew, and I would
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: stand around and smoke weed and drink and probably snort
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: cooke and do whatever and just meet people and just
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: like do this little like friend collecting thing that you're
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: doing at a certain point in your life of just
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: meeting nice to.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: See you everywhere.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I respect that, and there's a certain point
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: in your career where you have to do that. But
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: also like as soon as I had a kid, it
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: was just like, what the fuck am I doing?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on on the whole entire Drake
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson thing and people saying that Elliott is above
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: doing running gun interviews at Rolling Loud.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: You know, I wrestled with that too, because for a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: long time I would go to Rolling Loud and I
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: would be doing the thing of standing around and waiting
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: to get interviews and just trying to you know, finesse
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: get content. Yeah, and like you know, if you if
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: you get a five minute conversation with Gunna, you just
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: made your whole trip, you know, Like I went.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: To you did a Young Thug one at one of those.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was the best one that I ever did.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: And then that's that kind of killed it for me
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: after that, because that was twenty nineteen and I go
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: to Wireless Festival in London and I get like a
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: twenty minute Young Thug interview, I get like a really
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: dope Juice World vlog, I get Denzel Curry. This is
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: all like in the same day that we just made
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: like a bunch of fire pieces of content.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Crazy crazy Day.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Crazy Day. And it was all because it's in England.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: So they're not like super they're.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Not getting pulled in every direction by their homies.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot of media and it's not super
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: formal in the sense that like even Young Thug has
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: a little less like you know, like the big as
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: big as, like this table and like the area surrounding it. Right,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: he's just chilling like he doesn't have a lot him.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Him there as opposed to him doing rolling out in
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: la is a lot different in terms of the backstage environment.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Who's around him. He's got friends, he's got this you know.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I remember I went to some random festival in Santa
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Ana like right after that London one.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Was it the day and night one?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was just infinitely less likely that I
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: was going to get any good content at that, you know.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And like for somebody like Elliott, it's like you probably
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: remember two thousand and two, he was like the god
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: of hip hop media because he was the editor of
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Double Xcel and he basically destroyed the source and he
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: was clicked up with June and Eminem and all this shit.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I still to this day. Look at Elliott I was
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: like just a massive inspiration in terms of showing me
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: how it could be done. But I googled it the
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: other day. I think he's like fifty two or some shit.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: So it is a question of, like, does there come
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: a time where you're a little bit too old or
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: a little bit too established to be doing the running
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: gun interviews backstage at Rolling Loud. I mean, I hope
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: when I'm fifty two that I wouldn't even consider it,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: to be totally honest, I'm thirty nine now, I could
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: still see myself doing it, but I also don't at all,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I mean, like in a perfect world, yeah,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Elliot Wilson would be like jay Z, like where he's
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: just able to like be this content god and not
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: have to be in the trenches with the people.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, like you want to be
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: in the trenches.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: With the people, right, Like there is an extent to
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: which that's what's going to keep you young and keep
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: you in people's minds. But I don't really see myself
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: doing that at fifty two. But also I don't I
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: don't judge Elliott for it. I feel like he's still
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: just kind of Yeah, that's my thing.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I think I think it's like it's like an unfair
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: judgment because I'm sure he got paid because he was
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: doing official Rolling Loud. Shit, oh it was four rolling out,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: it was for Rolling Loud, So he definitely got a
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: bag for it. Yeah, And at the end of the day,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: like everybody's trying to reinvent themselves, like Elliott is, he's
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: kind of got to. I've noticed he started interviewing like
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a guy like Key Clock, which I'm not sure, like,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you know, four years ago he would be interviewing Key Clock.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, I haven't watched a lot of Elliott's interviews
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: over there.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: They're really good, Like but podcast it's amazing.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: Really Okay, So I watched Drake one a few years ago.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've seen any sense then, but like
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: the Drake One was incredible, flawless, Like you actually asked
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: him every single thing that I could imagine you asking him.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: They're very thorough.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Amazing to me, but I haven't really been super tuned in.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for you are do you even like care to
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: discover new music anymore? Like are you still like ear
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to the street type guy or if it comes across
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: your periphials and you like it, you'll check it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: It's weird because it's like the stuff that I like,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: which is like the street music, the drill music.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Crazy shit, that stuff.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm constantly finding out about new shit because I
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: had a lot of people in my life that'll be
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: like check out oh five to one, kiddo, check out
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Tay Savage, check out all this Chicago shit, or like
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: listen to this new Bronx drill rapper or whatever. So
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: that stuff it's super easy for me to stay on
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: top of. You know you're talking about Bea. I know
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: she's popular. I don't think i've ever heard her. I'm
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: never gonna like go listen to an R and B
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: artist or like a girl rapper or whatever. Realistically, Like
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: it's just you don't like R and B. No, no, no,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: but you just got excited. Genuine followed you. Well, it's Genuine.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: So you listened to Genuine growing up? Are you more
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: like a Genuine's the guy fill off stage? Well?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Genuine like that that comes from the era of me
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: going home from from school and watching TRL and like
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Genuine was on whatever they're playing, you're watching it, Like
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of Backstreet Boys songs that I know
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: every word to. Unfortunately that like I'm just never gonna
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: I'm never gonna see a bunch of you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Know, who's's it?
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: The K pop group BTS. I don't know.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, yes single BTS. I love R and B.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I'm R and B head, so I love R and B,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: but BTS I couldn't tell you.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I keep thinking about because like the last couple of days,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I've just been listening to like all of Dirk's albums
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: and every single album. It's like I could kind of
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: cut it in half and take all the soft ship.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you are you a big
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Dirk fan?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I am a big Dirk fan.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, but if he's rapping about eyelashes and
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: fucking you know, you wouldn't hear that, see whatever I
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: do want to kill your ops, Like That's what I'm
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: trying to hear, and I'm not proud of that. It's
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: just like like the aggressive songs are always the songs
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: that I like, Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you had a pretty dope Dirk interview. What was
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: that like twenty eighteen.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Eighteen, Yeah, which I didn't like.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I knew it was a good interview to get, but
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: it definitely didn't feel like he was going to be
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: well I think big as he is now.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think Dirk had Like I think Dirk's
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: got one of those careers that's like very unique because
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: he was on def Jam forever he was and like
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: he's evolved into something that I'm not sure I would
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: have get. Like you said in twenty eighteen, if somebody
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: would have told you he's like one of the biggest
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: rappers in the world, you'd been like.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't see it happening.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: But that happens all the time that there's like artists
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: that I'll interview and I think they're just super whatever,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: or I think they're they're good, but like, oh, he's
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: got like a little seed of potential. But if I
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: was a betting man and you were like, I would
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: want one hundred and one odds if I was going
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: to bet one hundred bucks on him, you know which
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: is But sometimes dudes just really go for it and
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: really work their ass off or their their sound.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: That just takes people a while to catch up to
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: their sound.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: You know, do you you know, because I remember very
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: vividly you were waving the little Pump flag harder than
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: any rapper. I think I've ever seen you wave a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: flag four At a certain point in time, I think
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I remember when you first went on the Breakfast Club.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: You would on the Breakfast Club, you didn't ever No, well,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: there was an interview. Was it just you and Charlie Maine?
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I interviewed him at one point. Yeah, And I went
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: on the Brilliant Idiots one time.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: It was Brilliant Idiots. It was Brilliant Idiots. Okay, Yeah,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: So when you went on Brilliant Idiots, I think I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: remember you kind of shitting on Rick Ross a little.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I think they asked me what I thought of the
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: new Rick Ross album.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: And you were like, I don't fucking care. I'm listening
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to a Little Pump or some shit.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's just real. Like there's just artists
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: who I like, and then at a certain point, once
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: they're on like album number eight, I'm just not well.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say there was like you were kind
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: of like partially the face of like that SoundCloud era,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and you were also very anti a lot of the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: other shit.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I think I got a lot of the the a
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: lot of that reputation for being like anti traditional hip
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: hop just because of the fact that I was like
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: the adult in the room when Little Pump and Smoke
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Purple chanting fuck J Cole, even though I don't think
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I ever I don't think I ever said fuck J Cole.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: You know, like I was not invested in it like that,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: And I've always been able to appreciate, you know, more
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: traditional hip hop and everything. But yeah, I mean that
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: was just I was around the SoundCloud wave like before them.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: I was around all these like Sesesh Hollow Water Boys
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: dudes and like all the GBC shit, and then I,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: you know, I met I met Little Pump at a
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: show in Florida that like Ski Mask played and like
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: a few other people, and yeah, we just hit it up,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: hit it off on some cool shit. We went on
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: that tour together, and then I, you know, I went
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: to a few of his shows after that and stuff.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean sometimes when I think back on that,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you're a grown ass man just really hanging
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: out with like a sixteen year.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Old you in like fast forward, you have gotten a
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: lot of recent criticism for maybe that tour and like
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: maybe some of the stuff that went down on the
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: tour with Pump. Do you regret any of that tour
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: or do you think any of that criticism is fair.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, we were just hanging out doing zams and like,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's a lot of stuff.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: That'sen in retrospect. A grown man doing Zan's with a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: child is kind of crazy.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was just like my little helmie at
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: the time. I didn't I never thought of it like that,
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: because that's for sure. I've been a BMX dude my
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: whole life and I've been getting you know, smoking weed
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: and drinking and hanging out of the skate park and
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: all this shit, and I never had any like level
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: of scrutiny of what I was doing. So it never
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: really occurred to me. And it's not like I was
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: like getting drugs for them. It's like, no, like they
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: had drugs, and like sometimes Pump or Smoke Purp would
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: like hand me a Xanax and or pour me some
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: lean and I'm like, okay, sure, yeah.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: You know what would be your thoughts on why you
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: think those two guys did not live up to their
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: potential and I guess quote unquote fell off because I
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: mean it looked like Smoke Purp was with Travis and
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Pump was the biggest guy the fucking planet, you.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Know, I mean a cart of me. You know, I
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: got no ill will towards either of them. I still
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: think that they both potentially, you know, have it in him,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: but I feel like everyone's one hit away, That's what
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. And at a certain point, the little Pump
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: thing was just so big that it's like they the
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: people couldn't help but turn against him at a certain
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: point once like they loved the meme, they loved the
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: idea of him, they loved the hilarity of Pump, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: then at a certain point they just turned away from
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: him because maybe the music didn't evolve or keep changing
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: or whatever. And I don't know. I mean, you see
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: it happen with people all the time, Like happened to
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: the baby. They're doing it to a little baby right now.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: But guess what, the baby caught a record and is
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: kind of back a little.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I don't doubt for a minute that the bigger record. Yeah,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: because he's a smart, older guy who really like has
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: studied the music game for a long time. And that's
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: why I don't count a Little Pump or purp out
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: because I feel like all they need to do is
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: just like come up with a sound, make a project
• 42:02
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• 42:05
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• 42:07
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• 42:12
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• 42:18
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• 42:20
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• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Or but like, bro, you see the way that they're
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• 42:25
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• 42:41
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• 42:43
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  Speaker 3: and there's all these homies in the in the studio
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• 43:00
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• 43:09
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• 43:13
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• 43:18
  Speaker 3: they love you, and they're gonna shit on you and
• 43:20
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• 43:23
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• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the interview. I was gonna say, you had a couple
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: of you have in your store back in the day
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: resulted in some cool shit. One obviously, I think the
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: last hurrah was kind of a gun in my face. Well,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, when when X passed away
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and you guys pretty much shut.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: That was crazy.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: But then the thing that actually made us like basically
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: leave the block was when I got the gun in
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: my face.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: That seemed like that kind of like.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: Killed the vibe, and you know, all of a sudden,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to be there the same way I
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: needed security around me whenever I was there. Everybody's got guns.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Everybody's just like on a very different level because we
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: were hanging out all the fucking time with no guns
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: around for years there, and then all of a sudden
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: one kid pulls up back and crazy, and that just
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: kind of really changed the flavor of the block.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, though, like you had a
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: dope interaction with j Cole where he just fell through
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: randomly and shout.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Out Sasha, who he just names. He's the one that
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: basically line that up.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Sasha, good guy. And then I think
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: about MGK came and came and bought a bike at
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: your store?
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Did he?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something to him and I talked about because
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I bought a bike from
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: that store, really, And he said that's why he doesn't
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: understand why, because I guess you were shitting on him.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: You guys have this like you guys had like a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: little fat.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: I never knew why he had an issue with me,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: aside for like the only things I could think.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: He probably said something that he's a sensitive guy. Yeah, man,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you said something about him.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't like his rap, like all
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: his rap records back in the day. I remember like
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: he put a record out and I listened to it
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: and I said it was garbage. And I never knew
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: he bought a bike from me though.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: So it's funny because yeah, because him and I, because
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm really cool with with Kels, and we
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: were talking and I was like, you know, Adam, like
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I can connect you Adam. He's a good ud be
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: cause you know, I don't know if you remember I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: put you on the phone.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Russ, Oh yeah you did, and I we had like
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: a conversation that I always think about that because I
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: had a.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Conversation thinking that we were on air.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: We weren't.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: I know, I was having the conversation like I was
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: trying to fil Yeah, but then I realized after, like, oh,
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: that wasn't on air, Like not only people who know
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: about that conversation are me, Russ, and keV, Whereas I
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: was speaking as if I had the whole world.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Listening to me.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: But damn, that's crazy that you had that conversation with
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: MGK because I never gotten that.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: He told me. He was like, it's crazy because I
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: actually went out of my way to make sure when
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I bought a bike, I bought it from his store,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: just to kind of keep the money within like the
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: culture type shit.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think anybody ever told me, like at the
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: store that that happened.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: It's possible that.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I know he said he bought a bike. He's like,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I bought a bike from from his spot. I literally
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: went out of my way to go buy the bike there.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I'm sure told me.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I look at all that, like, oh, why
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: do I have problems with MGK? Like why why was
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: he so mad at me? It's really just for me,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: like saying I didn't like his music at a certain point,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: or like making fun of him, And I mean, I
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: really am not like a big fan of his music.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: But also like I'm sure me and him would get
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: along all right, And like I remember somebody told me
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: that he lives near me, and so I've had the
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: thought multiple times when I'm doing Cardio, just walk around
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: the neighborhood, just take it. Like imagine I just saw
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: MGK and we just had to fight in the front yard.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Like that would be crazy.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Because like if he came up to me on some
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: crazy shit, I guess I'm just gonna fight him, even
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: though that's not normally an option for I'm not normally
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: going to Like.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I think both both of you guys are too rich
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: for that to happen.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: I would think so as well. But I mean, you
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: see him punch some guy at the fair the other day.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: I got nothing against him.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean that was I think that was more.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I mean his lady was nearby. I you know, yeah,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: you gotta kind of hold your chick down.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but somebody said some crazy shit to her, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: then he had a security right there. For me, if
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: somebody said something crazy about to my girl, I'm would
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: be like security.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Get them, like I'm paying you for a reason.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: But he's had security for so long.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: But he's a hot head, you know, like like I've
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: seen Kelsey. You know, he's a good dude. But yeah,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: you guys, I'm sure one day you'll have a conversation
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: or you'll be jogging and he'll honk at you from
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: a pink g wagon.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I'm down or something like that. I would have a
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: conversation with him.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I would just say the fuck Russ Era obviously all
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: that kind of that was that the only time you
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: actually had an artist physically do harm to you or
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: is there anything we never heard about?
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Well, the Russ didn't do anything.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: It was his guy.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just like at the nail salon around
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: the corner from my store at the time, and I
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: remember it was some kind of like goth boy click
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: event or some shit like that.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Jesus that sounds like an that sounds like a terrible.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: So basically, you have like a shitload of zanned out
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: goth kids hanging out at the store, right, And so
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I dip off. At one point, I go around the
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: corner to the to the nail salon and I'm getting
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: my nails done, and I thought, oh, I'm gonna put
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: my hood up and I'm gonna face away from the
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: door so that nobody can tell it to me.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Not a great idea. Didn't see these guys coming.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: And then I just hear at one point, I'm twenty
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: two get punched on the side of the head, and
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I like fall down for a second, like I think
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: you hit me, wait one more time, and then I
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: jump up.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And by the time I jump up there out.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: There and you didn't even realize it was connected to
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: Russ until later, Right.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was connected till Russ until like
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: a year later when Academics was on live stream with
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: him and Russ said something like yeah that full audam
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: twenty two got touched too, but like it was breaking
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: up on the recording of the stream, but Act knew
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: what he said, so Act told me, he goes, this
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: is what Russ said, and immediately it clicks in my head, like,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: oh my god, the Nigerians, because Russ is always talking
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: about his Nigerian homies and shit, and I'm like, oh
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: my god, those guys weren't Nigerian. Like I got beat
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: up by a couple of Nigerians that Russ sent through.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: And so then all of a sudden it made sense,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: and I remember I sat on it and thought about
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: it for a couple of days, and then one day
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I might as well
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: just use the shit for some clouds. So I just
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: go on Twitter and start being like, hey fuck Russ, YadA,
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: YadA YadA.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: And hey, I feel like, I feel like his campaign
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: of beating up rappers that talk shit worked hurts because
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: nobody says it no more, and I feel like people
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: now are like, yo, maybe Russ was onto something when
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: it came to being independent and like owning your masters
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: and not getting fucked by labels.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Right. I mean, what I will say is that Russ
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: definitely like didn't do himself any favors around that time.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: He was just saying a bunch of wild ass shit
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: and just kind of disrespecting a lot of people.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Hey, I mean, he had that T shirt that stands out.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: When he dissed all of the Atlanta Producers or whatever,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: and I remember Southside was going crazy on him, like
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: he made a lot of weird decisions around that time.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Now that Bean said I And the reason why I
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: kind of let it go and just decided like, all right,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna just be cool with Russ when you initiated
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: the conversation is because Russ brought it up to me
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: that there was a lot of tweets that I didn't remember,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: probably because I was zanned the fuck out, just like
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: his T shirt said, where I was basically like really
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: roasting this motherfucker. And I don't do that now, Like
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to just use like a rapper as
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: a punchline, like in the way that I was doing
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: there where I was really like treating him like he
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: wasn't a human being, you know, which to me, I don't.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I don't approve of that or condone that.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like you should approach everybody as a person
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: and you know, try to engage with the actual ideas
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: that they're putting out there. Now, if I had had
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: some angry tweets where I said, Russ doesn't know what
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: the fuck he's talking about with these Atlanta producers are
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: actually Xanax is the best? How dare you insult Xanax?
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Then that's fair, like that's having an opinion. But me
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: just like clowning them and just treating them like a joke.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: I don't really condone that, so I have to even
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: though obviously I don't condone you know, him sending people
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: to beat my ass either, But I do respect that.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: You gotta respect the shooter.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day or the puncher. You
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: can't dictate us. People react to disrespect.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I shouldn't have been lacking anyway.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: You shouldn't have been.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Like it, because man, you imagine another version of that
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: story where I pull out the thing and just and.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Then you smoke two random dudes and you're like, and
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: you find out a year later, and it's.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Not gonna take a year. The cops are going to
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: go through their phone and be like, oh shit, Russ
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: sent these guys to do this, and then I mean
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: that's the alternate, Like, realistically, that's how that story would
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: probably play out today.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of thankful that I learned that lesson
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: early on.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: How look, I think you and I were texting early
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: on when the whole departure split of No Jumper happened,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: because I'm real, real tight with A and I've become
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: cool with te Roll over the last year or so.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: But I remember just hitting you and being like, this
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: was because I came on the show the day after
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: you fired Lush okay, and I didn't really understand what
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I was walking into. I guess to the fully.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Because I heard you say that on another show. Yeah,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: you really didn't get what I.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Didn't understand, like the whole gravity of what was happening, right, So, like, yeah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: it was shit, But you that day was crazy because
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: I remember coming out of the room because you had
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: multiple content rooms and seeing the dude who went on
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: the stream that same day and like tried to air
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you out for the old twenty eighteen shit, Like I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: saw him coming in really wow, Yeah that was the
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: same day, so he was there, Like I remember seeing
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: him come in, and then I think he walked over
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: to the stream room and then me and you took
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: a pick and then I left. I remember like it
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: was later on that day or maybe it was it
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: was I think, and I remember just being like, oh shit,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: but you were going through man, Bro.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah it was wild.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I mean it's kind and I remember hitting you like hey, Bro,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: like stay strong.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: But it is weird too because I feel like that
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: would happen to me now and I wouldn't give a fuck.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: But I mean, and get this, that wasn't very long ago, right,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: So like at the end of the day, like I've
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: never really seen I mean, everybody is like, yo, it's
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: over for this guy. We're we're not going on a show.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: He's a clown. Fucking he's a you know, fucking pedal
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. Like it was like all this shit
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: just getting thrown at the fucking house at the same time. Yeah,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: how was your mental being and like what was the
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: low for you just in terms of dealing with that.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, at that time, it was rough because it
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: was like I just felt like, oh, I put years
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: of hard work into like nurturing these guys as talent
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: and then they just kind of like turn their back
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: on me as soon as it's convenient for them. So
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: that was kind of tough to accept. But then at
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: the same time, you know, just having the Internet in
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: general just attacking me, and even that was like one thing,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: but dude, like it seems so silly. But around that
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: same time, there was a clip of me doing an
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: interview with Sneako where we were like having this very
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: sarcastic conversation about how disgusting vaginas are. Like really, anybody
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: who knows me or him would be able to tell
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: that it was a troll and ask conversation, and that
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: when I was saying that, like, penises are so much
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: better than vaginas. You just splash a little bit of
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: puddle water on it and it's clean, whereas a vagina
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: is an open boom. This is like a version of
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: like a joke that I've basically like been telling like
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: the whole life about how dicks are better than vaginas whatever.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: But like, oh my god, like thousands of porn chicks
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: just using that clip as an opportunity to act as
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: if I genuinely hate vaginas, and you know, it's just
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: like a lot of that shit all at the same time.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Just it kind of just.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: Unloaded on me, and it was really really hard for
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: me at that time, and then I went on the
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: honeymoon and I kind of like got my mind right
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: while I was off doing that.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Because all this is happening right before your wedding.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, terrible timing, very very very stressful for my girl.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Although then we go and do the wedding and it's.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Like the perfect wedding.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: It was like so good, everything went so smoothly, and
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: then it made me and her feel like, well, why
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: the fuck were we so stressed out about the wedding
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: and the lead up to all this, like on account
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: of all that other shit?
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Did you, like, I mean, are you like a therapy guy?
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: I do. I had a therapist for like three years now,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: and I very much appreciate her, and she gives me
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: a very nice space in which I can kind of
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: air out everything that I'm going through emotionally. Sometimes it
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: feels like my therapist. And I was like the one
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: podcast I do a week that nobody ever gets to hear,
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: you just like working through shit, you know.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, she definitely helped helped talk me through all
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: And at any point in time, you've already made your money,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: you're paid, you're doing well. Plug talks booming. At any
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: point in time, did you consider just being like, you
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: know what, I don't need to do this. This is
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: worse for me than it's better for me.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because like there was a time where.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: It felt like they're just watching you. It just felt
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: like there was a time where you just were like
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: just over the shit, right because like.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: That whole house Phone thing happened, and then that that
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: was the thing that bothered me is I felt like, oh,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: this is a moment where it's pretty obvious that I
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: need the guys who are hosts on the channel to
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: have my back during this and like need them to
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: help craft the narrative that things are just fine here.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: And instead I felt like I kind of got the opposite,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: where like a lot of the hosts on the channel
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: were kind of like very much actively trying to make
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: the situation between me and house Phone worse. And he
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: gets that now because like me and Housemen have had
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of conversations about it and everything, and like
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: you know, he we've been talking all day. He's djaying
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: a show that I'm doing on Saturday, and I don't. Yeah,
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: it just kind of made me realize like there was
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: just like a really toxic element brewing within No Jumper
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: at that time. And you know, I don't think that
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: any of the hosts in particular are like really bad people.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: I think that they just kind of had voices in
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: their ears that were probably concerned with their own financial
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: situation more than like the actual long term careers of
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: these guys, you know. So I think that there was
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: just too much bullshit going on. And it's crazy because
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: as soon as those guys left and then we have
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: we still have a shitload a host on the channel,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: and like a lot of them have been really growing
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: and stuff, and I have hosts who literally like cannot
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: be in the same room. I cannot have Rick Baby
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: or Whack one hundred or you know, I can't have
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: Whack one hundred and Kritmak in the room at the
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: same time. But still, like the vibe is way better
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: than it was before. Feels like, as much as that
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: shit kind of hurt going through those growing pains, exercising
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: that drama element out of the business was like really
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: important because at a certain point it was just a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: lot of people were like coming into No Jumper basically
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: like sterring shit up and then going home to their
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: streams and making tons of content about it, and that
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: just became like the norm every day. And that's why
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: I felt like I needed to take steps like moving
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: around people on podcasts and stuff like that, because it
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: was just becoming really really overwhelming.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I saw AD said something because you had Snoopy Badass
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: on Yeah who you.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Want special treatment? Because Snoopy Badass had a video where
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: he basically said that, like and this is a long
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: time ago, because I did an interview with Snoopy like
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: two years ago and AD wasn't there or anything, and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: like Snoop and Snoopy had a video where it basically
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: said that AD was blocking him from going on No
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Jumper and that Ad is just a hater because you know,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Snoopy's the real king of Compton or whatever the fuck
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: he said. So when I had Snoopy on the other day,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: I asked him, what was up with that video you
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: saying that you would fuck a d up or whatever?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: And I guess you know, Ad, he like last night,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: did this whole song and dance acting like the victim,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: acting like, Oh, that's so fucked up that I would
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: ask this dude about him. So, just for the record,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: I am one of the greatest hip hop podcasters to
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: ever live. And if you think that I'm going to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: have a motherfucker on the show and not ask him
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: about the beef that he previously had with someone who
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: was a host on the Channel A, you're not paying
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: attention to what I've been doing for all these years,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: because that is one hundred percent what I do. If
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: I have an interview with a rapper that hates Bootleg
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: keV tomorrow, I'm gonna probably make it clear in the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: course of the interview, like fuck with Butleg keV.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say, so why that's normal.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: That's what everybody does, ad Like, I don't know why
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: he thinks he needs like special treatment, but I think
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: the reality is is that he probably isn't even.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: Actually bothered by what I said.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: In the interview with Snoopy Badass. He just does like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: four streams a week, and he needs topics and he
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: needs stuff to talk about, and so that probably seemed
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: like something that would be good clickbait, right, And that's
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: not like people just you see people become this weird
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: version of themselves and they start faking fights, and they
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: start faking beefs, and they start, you know, creating beefs
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: out of nothing or whatever. And it's like, I don't know,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Like I saw like a two minute clip of his
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: stream in the reddit and I just didn't even I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: didn't even think about responding.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: It just seems so I.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Was gonna say, I think he said that you guys
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: were like cordial.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: We've got some text conversations since then and everything, but like, okay,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: why do we have a text conversation when I was
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: in Florence about to get married. Is because his cousin
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: came on one of the No Jumper panels and then
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: ad did a whole stream talking about you know, if
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: I'm not fucking with Adam, then you if you're my cousin,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't go on No Jumper or whatever, and I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: hit him up. I sent him, like, you know, a
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: couple of texts just being like, bro, I didn't know
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: you had a problem with this fucking guy, like like
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: what do you like? But again, it's like he needed
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: some clickbait. He needed something to talk about that week.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: So you see how ad even being who he is,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: he just is I don't know, it's like weird, Like
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: you could have just texted me and said, like, why
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: do you interview my cousin instead you do a three
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: hour livestream about it. And you know that's why I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: kind of feel bad for these guys, because it's like
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: they feel like they have to talk about me to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: get views and to get people to pay attention, because
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: that's all of their most viral content has just been
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: talking about I think.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Lush said that. I think Lush is like, this is
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: what y'all want, so I'm gonna keep doing it.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Lush did a whole video swearing that he wasn't gonna
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: talk about me anymore and thanking me for the positive
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: impact out in his career and everything, and then he
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: interviews somebody else that I don't fuck with, and he
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: said like, hey, I really tried to stop talking about
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: No Jumper, but this is what y'all want, but you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: guys don't watch my shit unless I talk about No Jumper.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: So I'm talking about No Jumper now. The difference between
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Lush talking about No Jumper and not talking about No
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Jumper is he'll get like a thousand views on an
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: average stream and then he'll talk about a new Jumper
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: and I'll get.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Like ten thousand.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, that is a ten x multiplier, but
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: still you're a grown ass man getting ten thousand views
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: on your live stream.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Have you guys chatted at it all?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, he tries to hit me up and stuff,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: and it's like, bro, I just don't fuck with.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Him, cause I, like, you know, I had him on
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: and he went off. He went off on me on
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: some fucking podcasts, and then I ended up bringing him
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: on and we're cool because I think I called I
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: called him some shit when you and I did, because
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: I never was like a fan of him on the channel,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: but when I met him, I was like, oh, he
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: seems like a really genuinely like like nice dude.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: And with him, it's like it just reminds me like,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: do not operate your business like a fucking charity project,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: because he was somebody that was just so obviously fucked,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: and like I put him on the channel because it
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: was like I thought that that was kind of like
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: an interesting narrative, like look at this guy. He's an
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: ex junkie, he's fucking addicted to banging prostitutes on fig
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: he's just got like clearly got a few screws loose.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: He's chasing this battle rap dream. But then you know,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: like we brought him on the channel, and it's just
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: like everybody on the channel was just viciously clowning him
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: all the time, and.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I was the one telling people.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: I was the one sitting down with Almighty Suspect and saying, like, Suspect,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: you gotta go easy on Lush.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: You can't just like be this mean to him. Because
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I remember there was like a freestyle thing where.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Lush rapped and Suspect was laughing so hard, like falling
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: out of his chair, and it was so funny. And
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I'm over here, I'm the one.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: Looking out for Lush saying, Suspect, you can't treat him
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: like that. Like, Suspect, you gotta be nicer to him.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Whatever.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: T Rel was fucking shitting on him left and right.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: He fucking hated him, and I'm kind of trying to like,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: you know, navigate that. And you know, like, why was
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: I going out of my way to help this guy.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: I never did one bad thing to this guy. And
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: then of course all of his dreams are about me
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: because I'm the only successful person that he's ever been
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: around in his entire life. I'm the only famous person
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: that he's ever been associated with, so he has to
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: talk about me or else. Nothing's ever gonna move. My
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: challenge to all of those guys, and I've said this before,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: is get a million views, have an opinion.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Have a thought.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about on a specific video.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: Make a video that gets a million views, have a thought,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: have an opinion, do something. The stipulations are you can't
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: get a million views talking about me.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: That's not going to do it.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: There's not a million people who care that much about
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: any of these ex hosts talking about me, or you know,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: get an interview, talk to somebody who's like really interesting,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: and get a million views. That's my challenge to every
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: single one of them. Well, I think you will have
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: proven to me that you successfully left the nest when
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: you get a million views, because I could tell you
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: that last month I got fifty million views on my
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: YouTube channel. And this is like people talk about a
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: sinking ship. All of these channels combined are maybe ten
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: percent of the views that I get in a month,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: and I'm a sinking shit. This is what these people
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: actually want you to believe. It's bullshit narrative. They were
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: never mistreated while they were on the channel. I was
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: always transparent about pay. I was always like very uh,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: you know, open to having discussions about what the future
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: of the Channel was going to be. So that that
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: is the one thing that really bothers me is just
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: this bullshit victim narrative that was painted on the way out.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: But I don't think that people are falling for it anymore.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: I you know, the Channel's doing way way better. We're
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: crushing it right now and I have tons more great ideas.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, you need money
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: to go to war, and I got a lot of it,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: and I can't.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think they want to. I mean,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I would hate to see like a war. I mean
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: obviously not to me.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: It's like there's a scoreboard, right and I'm way up,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: even though people tried to paint me as if I
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: was way down.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you, But I do think it's important
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: to acknowledge like community and and and back on fig
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: are are successful, they're not. Maybe they're jump or successful,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: but thank you. I think you've you have a head start.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: You know you've been and I'm gonna go I mean, look,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: of course you're you have some of the iconic interviews
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: of all time. Listen, I think you got to look
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: at it as like through the scope of like these
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: guys just started these channels, so.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, but they need to get a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: million views.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: You know. Have you watched Figmmunity World?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: No?
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: No, you never.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Well I've seen some clips here. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that like they're building something that
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: they're you know, and I just wish that there was
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: less like like I didn't like the way to hold
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: Split happen, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it was bullshit,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: But I think that uh, you know, both things can
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: be true. They're successful, maybe not as successful as you,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: but again you have a head start, but they're doing
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're making much more money for their families
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: for themselves. Then would you acknowledge that that they're probably
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: making more money now than they were making with no Jumper?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Hell no, you don't think so, no, no, no, no, no, okay.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm not in the business. So I just know
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: that they have sponsors, they got you know, they got
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: their own sponsor money coming in. Like I don't know,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I just I just feel like they're probably and they
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: might be okay, even if it's even if you're making
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: seventy five percent of what they were making with you. Oh,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: hell no, you don't think so.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: I mean I listen a lot of people talk to me,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: A lot of people tell me things I basically know,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: like almost exactly how much money they make, And I
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: feel bad that they had bad management that led them
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: in the direction of walking away from you know, money
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: that could do. He was very, very meaningful for an
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: opportunity that realistically has not panned out yet.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Do you well, I mean yeah, I mean, do you
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: think there would ever be an opportunity for you guys
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: to do a reunion show or go on each other's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: platforms in the future? Is that out of the realm
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: of possibility.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: For me? I'm looking towards the future, so is it possible.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: I guess anything is possible. But I just got a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: lot of good things going for me right now I'm
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: really focused on and I don't really feel the need
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: to sort of go back in time, you know.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: And obviously you know, shout out to brick baby, brick babies.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: Break baby better? Why be better? And break baby better?
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Be be better? Yo?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: What is it about like you and gang members where
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: you just you just attract yourself to LA Gang members
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: like a.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Fucking he love me? What can I say? I don't know.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: There's just LA Gang members around you at all times.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Listen, I don't know.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: You get in where you fit in. And I've always
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: been a fan of this of this music, and at
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: a certain point, you know, like I like having conversations
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: with Whack one hundred, I like having conversations with brit Baby.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: I do a podcast with Danny Mullin. He's a Communitian lords.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: He doesn't even know who Blue Blue Faces. There's been
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: multiple times that I've mentioned Blue Face. He doesn't know
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: who I'm talking about. I like doing that kind of content,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: but ultimately, like, the only people who are gonna really
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: know a lot about the music that I'm into are
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: pretty much gang members or people who are equally as
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: fascinated by that kind of stuff as me.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. This is kind of where
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: I've ended up.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm thinking, let's see, your two main co
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: hosts now are whack in brick Baby.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: Right, Enemies can't be around each other. That's I gotta
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: make it. I gotta work through this in time.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean even back in the day, it
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: was like you had t Row and you had k
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: So it's like they couldn't be in the same place
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: at the same time. Is that a conversation you've tried to,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: you know, mend a little or is it even.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: With krit Mac and.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: With Whack and brick Baby.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: I think like, actually, when I first started the Whack podcast,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: there was a chance that they were going to be
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: able to be cool, and then it got way worse
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: after that, So at this time, probably not. I do
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: think like based on statements that they both made, that
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: if they were to see each other, that it would
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: not turn physical, at least based on what they've said,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: which that to me is a big step, big step.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I would love to get them on the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: same page. I think they would be incredible together on camera,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: but we're not quite there yet.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I remember in the past you had said that you
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: would an interview six to nine.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: I think I would Now I was gonna say, yeah,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I got a feeling it's coming.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: You know. My dedication to the street code was so
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: strong at a certain time that it just kind of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: blinded me.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: And now I'm like, I could do it.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's like, I don't know
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: six and I want to sit down with me when like,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sure if he was watching my commentary on the
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: Kodak Black six nine collab, that he probably would be like, well,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: fuck this guy, because like you know, I wasn't exactly
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: positive about.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: It, but I think with you and WAC's dynamic, like
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: WHAC would probably want to make that happen, right, I would.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: Like to make it happen.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: Me and WAC talked about it. He facetimed me the
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: other day with six ' nine and six nine just
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: started saying some random shit and I don't know. I mean,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: I would be cool with it. It would be like interesting
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: because of the fact that I was around six ' nine,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: like in the very very infancy of his career before
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: he had twenty thousand followers when I met him, and
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: I've kind of seen him get to be the biggest
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: rapper in the game and now I guess he's the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: biggest Latin artist in the game or something.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: He's definitely not that well.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: He's he's up there.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: There's bad bunn eithers. Yeah, paesel Pluma, he's out there.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: But I don't I don't know, I mean, he's doing
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: this thing. I don't think he's a bad guy. I
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: just think he, you know, ended up in a weird situation.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like more now than ever, the selective
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: outrage about snitching is like at an all time high.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, shout out whack one hundred.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: But definitely, Black always says selective politics.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: He's the most selective. Politics is selective one. Yeah, I
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: mean definitely.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: I mean because I think I like the ship with
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: the QC guy, you know, and it's like, I mean
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys are signing him, a.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Lot of people. Yeah, And I thought when I saw
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: that story come out, I'm like, god, damn, Like, are
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: there are there certain people that aren't gonna want to
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: be around p anymore?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Just went away?
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: Nobody cared. Yeah, he just kept it moving. Yeah, because
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: he didn't tell on anybody's famous. If you snitch on
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: young thug, you're in trouble. If you snitch on or
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: if people already kind of hate you, like six ' nine,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: he told on all these real gang members.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: People hated, people were.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: Iron to find something.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: No everybody wanted to tear him. It's almost like people
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: wanted to tear you down and they got that little
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: slither bingo and they were like, we're die.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: And I think that is part of why I have
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: empathy for six ' nine now, having kind of like,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've lived through a few times, I guess really,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: but like you know, just seeing how bad the pylon
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: is and everything, and I mean, what somebody, I'm not
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: in the streets like that. If somebody snitches, it's not
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: really my business. I really don't give a shit. There's
• 1:14:23
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• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: snitches all the time doing all kinds of crazy legwork
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: trying to like explain why snitch is not a big
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: deal or whatever in their interviews and is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: to the Atlanta thing, Like, uh, for you, you've had so
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  Speaker 1: many random people speak about this situation.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about Andrew Tate. Mike Tyson says something.
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  Speaker 3: I thought I know it, but but that is how
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  Speaker 3: crazy my life is right now, is that Mike Tyson
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  Speaker 3: could have said something about it and I would not know.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, what's like the one thing where
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  Speaker 1: This is kind of crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, like Andrew Tate talking to Tucker Calson
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  Speaker 3: about it and Tucker Calson doing that you know that
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  Speaker 3: face he's always making with like oh really, yeah, he
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: let it man sleep with his wife. Well, like, like,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know that that was insane, because that's kind
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: of like two of the biggest voices on the right.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: I guess watching Logan Paul talk about it the other
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: day kind of trip me out. Just him.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was giving you props for your like
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: mental fortitude.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: You seem extremely unfazed by a lot of this.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty my heart is cold.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you would have done this unless
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: you knew you could fully like go sleep at night
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: without any Yeah.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, in terms of how I
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: view myself as a public figure, it's just I'm really
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: not scared of the smoke. I think that there was
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: a time period after like those dudes left the channel
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: where I really didn't I just didn't want a beef.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't want to fight. I didn't want to like,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: I just I was just really turned off to like
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: all the drama and stuff. And then having gone through
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: the Great Cucking of twenty twenty three and the result
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: with the resulting media storm, even just the shit that
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: I just said about those dudes. I mean, I'm holding
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: back like crazy. There's so much stuff I could say,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: but why not? Like what am I scared of that
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: they're going to do another fucking stream talking about me
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: for the eighteen hundredth time. Like I really don't give
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: a shit, and anybody could say anything they want about me,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: and I'm not really tripping about it. You know, academics
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: probably did like ten hours of live streaming about the
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Lena thing.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Did you watch his live his live commentary.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: I never saw any of it.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: He Actually what's weird with him is that he said
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: he texted me He's like, just so you know, I'm
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: not going to talk about the Lena thing. It was
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: like right when it first came out, and I'm like,
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you could talk about it, like go crazy, bro,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: I don't fucking care. He's like, he's like, well, it's
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: your baby, mama, YadA YadA. Like I feel like I'll
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: be respectful and not talk about it, and I'm like,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: you don't have to worry, like you could talk about it.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: It's all good.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 3: Hey. Shout out to him though, for doing it, but
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: then his commentary, like I didn't see it, but like
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: I heard, I just kept hearing like reviews of it
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: from people, and it's some of it seemed kind of crazy.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: The one thing I got mad about is I'm like, act,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: don't put my kid in the thumbnaw, which to me
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: seems obvious.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: But that's super obvious. Keep the kid out of it.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: His fucking twitch mods or whoever they I guess they
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: were the ones who did it.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure he's not on photoshop making the thumbnail.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Which makes sense.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that your wife had a number
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: and it hit fifty x.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Can you give us any sort of idea? No, because
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: we always hear, well, well, how much? How much does
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: the number have to be for it to be worth
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: a hypothetical situation for somebody to fuck my wife or
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: you know, another person's girlfriend?
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: Is it like north of ten million?
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: I shall not comment.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: I can't, like, I would love to just fully just
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: about just hit you with the number. My girl's very uh,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: stand offish about talking about finances and shit, like she
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: just doesn't really want to put a dollar amount.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: And does this fall under the LLC that you're a
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: part of the money that comes in for this, Like
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: do you get your cut of that because it is
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: your wife?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Uh not, sorry that her money?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: No, Yeah, yeah, I thought about that at a certain point,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: but I was like, you know what, like we participated
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: in so many different deals together or whatever. Like her
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: her whole thing is only fans from her account and
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: then the plug talk accounts, so you know, I let
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: her have her side of things. But I can say, like,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: even just for myself that, Okay, I had the biggest
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: month ever on Snapchat.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: I believe like that.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: Any channel has ever had, at least like the guy
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: that handles our Snapchat.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Like, hey, you plugged me with hi, shout to Dean.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: Shout out Dean, I put, I put.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: He basically told me that I made the most money
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: that of anybody had ever seen on Snapchat. From that,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: just from talking about it, plug Talk literally doubled. It
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: was already a great business, it doubled, which that was
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: also kind of insane for me to see. So I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: can't say that, you know, I could say that, like
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: even just me talking about it and the things that
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: came from the media storm has been insane from my perspective.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: From her perspective, it's even more insane. It's the best
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: selling only fans seen of all time.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Because she she was selling it like you had to.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Pay the pay I have bucks for her only fans
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: and you have to pay twenty dollars through the DMS
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: in order to purchase it.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Wow, M do you know what what her subscriber count is?
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: It is I think like five times the most that
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: it ever was before, but I probably I guess it
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: the exact number. Well, you can't see that if you
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: go to the page.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not too like, No, you could see it on
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: her end, but you can't see that.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't know because you know, a fucking Instagram, so
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: you can see, you know, I don't know if it
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: shows that. No, so it's boom. Business is booming.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Business is booming.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I want to get real quick before before we wrap.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: I think that like one thing that you said when
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: all this shit was like going left, was like if
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: you take YouTube revenue out of your uh business model,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: just like on some content creator shit, like kind of
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: give me like a little peek into what the business
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: of no Jumper is and like how you're able to
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: monetize on so many levels you mentioned the Snapchat.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: Show, Snapchat, Facebook, Patreon on the monetization of the audio
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: on you know, any app where you listen to just
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: the audio and it inserts ads into it, brand deals, merchandise,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously plugtalk is its own fucking world.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just there's a lot.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: That's why I was crazy when people are like, oh,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: like his business is done because these hosts left. I'm like,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: maybe I'm gonna make you know, twenty thousand dollars less
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: this month, maybe thirty thousand dollars less this month because
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 3: all these hosts left. That means nothing to me. That
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: is nothing. I could gladly throw twenty thousand dollars in
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: the trash every single month, then it would mean nothing
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: to me. My mortgage on the space is like twenty
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: grand a month, and that means nothing to me. So
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: it's like, people really got me fucked up financially sometimes,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: And I guess I kind of ask for it because
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I don't flex or like do any well.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: You've been flexing lately, but not really.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Right, Like you never seen me buy anything, you never
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: seen me.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: You threw up the numbers. I mean, you put the
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: fist over the dollar amount for you too, But you know, yeah.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: I do the view count.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not telling people how much money we
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: make or whatever.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that's always a weird one when people are like, oh, no,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: jumpers doing bad and that's why his wife did a
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: porn steam of this other guy. It's like, just because
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: me and my wife were both multimillionaires does not mean
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: that we don't want to also make many, many more
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: millions of dollars. You know. Like for me, I look
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: at my life all the time and I have like
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: basically like two different versions of it. It's like, there's
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: the version of my life right now where I'm working
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: my ass off trying to make as much money as possible,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: and then I have this other version that's like, well,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: what if I just went into chill mode and only
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: made money off of my more passive revenue streams, Like,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: to put it in perspective, just from selling Instagram promo,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: I could easily.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the ig is its own beast.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: I could have my own my entire life, paid for
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: my kid in private school, still going on vacations from
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: just the Instagram promo.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Think about that.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: That is a tiny percent and it's still enough to
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: keep everything afloat. And when I was going through all
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: that shit, I did like think about that, like, well,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: maybe I'd be happier if I just did whatever the
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: fuck I wanted to do all the time. I remember
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: I was doing a podcast with Ryan long As, a
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: comedian New York, and I said something about like, how lately, Yeah,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: I've just been thinking like maybe I just want to, like,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: you know, spend more time with the family and spend
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: more time around my kid. And he laughed in my
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: face and he goes, He's like a guy, like you,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: like you're not what are you gonna do? Just sit
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: around and watch your kid grow up? He's like laughing
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: in my face. And I was like, yeah, you're right. Yeah,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: Like how the fuck I can't chill out like maybe
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: when I'm older or like, you know, I respect the
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: fuck out of it when I see my girl able
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: to sit around the house for twelve hours all day
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: and do nothing but play with blocks with the kid
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: and right take it for a walk around the buck
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: and all that. And when I do have days where
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: it's just me at the house, I force myself to
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: be as present as possible, keep the phone on, doing
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: how disturbed try not to be sending text to people
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: about content all the fucking time, trying not to look
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: at TikTok and Twitter and all this shit.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, I'm still in my moment.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: I'm still like, I have content I want to make,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: I have things I want to do with my life.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: Sometimes the hard part is that there's just too many
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: things I want to do in my life.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: I want to go play in all these fucking.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Poker You're a fucking poker beast.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: I want to go play in all these poker tournaments
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: that are like twenty thousand dollars one hundred thousand dollars
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: to enter these tournaments and shit. But this just doesn't
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: make sense for me to take my time and spend
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: doing those things when I could be in the office
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: grinding out content.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, how hands on are you with what
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: we see?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: Are you like, Hey, we just did this interview. Make
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: sure you clip this, this, this, and this, or do
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: your editors send the title? Hey, this is the title.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Do you approve or disapprove?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: I do an interview and then by the end of
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: the day, one of the guys sends me a big
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: email with the time stamps and suggested clips and then
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: I sit down did it last night. I did a
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: fuck load of the shit last night for like an
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: hour before I went to bed, where I just sat down.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: I approved or denied every single title for the clips,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: wrote the full title starred things that would be like
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: a good TikTok moment or whatever.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: You're like, you're fucking I'm stary hands.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: On because I don't think you know. And now, like
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: shout out Remo. I have Remo in my life who
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: like helps me write questions for some of the interviews,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: helps me with titles sometimes. So to even have one
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: person that you really trust with that kind of stuff
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: is amazing. But at the same time, like I could
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: definitely take the five or ten minutes to review the
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: time stamps that he sends through so I can approve
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: it or not, because that's yeah, that's just one thing
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: where it's just like I know how I want my
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: shit to be clipped.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: And then you you stopped going live, right, there's no
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: more like like when you do the Wednesday or the
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: No Jumper show, it's not live anymore. Is there a
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: reason why you stop that?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: The number one reason is that we were doing the
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: live thing at six pm, which I've just become more
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: and more aware of, like my own body and my
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: own mind. Yeah, it's late, it's late. Yeah, it's like
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: by the time six pm, role.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: You get home at like eight forty five, nine o'clock, Like.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And a lot of my interviews that I'm doing
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: are early in the week, so it's like I might
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: sit down and do three interviews throughout the course of
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: the day on Tuesday and then also stream and have
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: to have the energy to have a really great conversation
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: for two hours at six pm. At a certain point,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, so if I don't go live,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: I can have a better chance of getting the content monetized.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: It'll be better and have the clips ready to go,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: and I'll enjoy it more and it'll be better content.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: I think that going live is like really good when
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: you're still in that period of your career where you're
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: like trying to you know, activate your fan base, and because.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: You can interact, you get the super chats going, and.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: I respect the fuck out of it. But I'm just
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: not at that place in my life where I want
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: to be hanging out in the studio until midnight every night,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: I see fresh and fit do it, I see fucking
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: whatever do it, and I just don't. I don't know.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: For me, it just makes more sense to record the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: shit in advance, like I could do all my interviews live.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: But then you know, something like the Whack one hundred podcast,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: it's like I'm paying him out a percentage of what
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: we make from it. And it's like, if we do
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: it live and it earns one hundred dollars as opposed
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: to us doing it in advance and being able to
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: cut the swears out of the beginning and do all that,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: and it makes you know, many many thousands of dollars
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: for somebody like him. It's like, what am I going
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: to tell him, Like, Hey, you didn't make this that
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: much of this month, but it is because we went live.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: Like that's just would seem insane to me.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: So that you're deal with Whack, is you just ad
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: revenue split? Yeah, we're partners on this on these videos.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: You'll see full transparency this with the videos made this
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: what you made type shit.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: I want to incentivize somebody like him, and I don't
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: mind doing that.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: You know, we make up, we make the money in
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: other ways.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you did start editing out curse
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: words for the first couple of minutes. I was gonna say,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: what minute point is the cutoff because I've I've started
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: out my guys do like the first five minutes, just
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: to be safe.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but then sometimes it's like you'll interview somebody who
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: says the N word at.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: The end of every sentence. They cut that out, like it.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Just really sounds crazy.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. We try to like hit a good
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: balance with it, but I never tell the person like
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: trying not to swear for the first come.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: And I talk about so much mushroom shit on the
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: fucking podcast, so like anytime we have like a dope
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: shroom clip, I just know it's gonna get the yellow
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: fucking dollar sign.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 3: I didn't even think about the There's been a few
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 3: episodes like I got a Rampage Jackson interview. It was
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: so good and I just was never able to get
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: it to turn green for like three weeks? How many?
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Like how many? Because will you do the same thing
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: we do, Well, we'll put up a version and then
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: it hits yellow fuck re upload. Let's redo this.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: Over and over and over. Yeah, but that that Rampage one.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. I think he said
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: trammy or like retard. I think, if you want, I
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: think he was saying those words one of those words
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: a few times. Never able to get it monetized, and
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like not that big a deal, like
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: you're talking about a couple thousand bucks, but it's like,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: you know, it's like, well, that's my money that I
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: was supposed to make for that day. When I went
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: in and sat down for a couple hours, I remember
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: my house flooded the night before the Rampage Jackson interview,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 3: and that really stood out to me extra like I
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: felt like I deserved to get paid for it because
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: I had been like bucketing water. Yeah yeah, I'd been
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: bucketing water out of my fucking living room earlier in
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: the day. That really seemed like I deserve to get
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: paid for what I did the next day.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: But you know whatever, Yeah, it's definitely a struggle YouTube.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like you guys aren't a Rumble yet. Huh.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 3: We made an account because we had a YouTube strike
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: so we couldn't upload for a week, and so we
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: did make a Rumble account, but we haven't really stayed
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: up on it as far as I know.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, I was like, I wonder if
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: Rumble's gonna really take because they've been spending so much
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: fucking money between the Kick and the Rumbles like that.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: I try to be audience first, you know.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where YouTube is where the audience exactly.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, maybe if somebody said, hey,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: We're going to give you an extra two hundred grand
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: a month to just stream your shit on Rumble, like well, okay,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: that does sound kind of appealing, but like, especially in
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: the position that I'm kind of in where a bunch
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: of the hosts just laughed, it's like you want to
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: make you want to make the experience as easy as
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: possible on your fans, and I don't know, it's like
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: I've gotten those offers before of like caffeine and all
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: this shit, and it's like you really think that I'm
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: just like gonna just completely fuck over my fans just
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: to just to get a little extra money. It's like
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: I can make money in other ways, Like I would
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: rather just go lab on the platform that built us
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: in the first place.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I feel like you're overdue for a Rogan interview.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Has that ever almost happened.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: So the Rogan narrative is that one day Rogan was
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: in the airport, which is kind of interesting. This is
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: like twenty eighteen. Maybe he's in the airport, which I
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: would assume he mostly flies private. He doesn't seem like
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: the kind of guy who should be just hopping on
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: a plane.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Right, He seems like it also seems like kind of
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: like a normal dude.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also it's just like, damn, Joe Rogan. I
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: how fucking annoying it is to be in the airport.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: God like trying to jerk you off.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: Dude, insane. I've heard.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: I've heard about him like trying to go work out
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: in the hotel lobby or not in the lobby, but
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: in the hotel gym. Dude's just washing him and they
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: have to like shut the gym down because it's like
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: every person in there is a potential Joe Rogan fan, especially.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: At the gym.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: Especially at the gym.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: But so he's in the airport and some fan of
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: mine who I can't even remember who it was. I
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: know it's somebody that I actually know in real life,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: he goes up to him and he's on acid, and
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: he says to Joe Rogan. He says, Joe, I'm on acid,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: but you need to do a podcast with Adams two.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: He's this shit YadA YadA, YadA, and just starts telling
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: him about me. And then I wake up the next
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: morning and I first thing I see is a text
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: from this dude telling me about how he was on
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: acid and he told Joe Rogan about me at the airport.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: And I'm just looking at my text, like what the fuck?
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: And then I look at Twitter boom Joe Rogan follow
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: and Joe Rogan DM saying, Hey, I met this guy
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: on acid in the airport and he told me that
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: I should fuck with you. And I was just like, Wow,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: that's amazing, dude. I'm a huge fan. You're one of
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: the main people that made me want to do podcasts
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: in the first place. I really have to thank you
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: for like a lot of the good things that happened
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: in my life the past couple of years. YadA YadA
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: didn't respond to that, and sent him a couple of
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: different things over the years of like, look at this
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: viral moment or look at this conversation I had that
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: I thought you might like, and he doesn't. He's never responded.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: Somebody was talking about plug talk on his Bert Kreischner
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 3: was talking.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: About We talked about it a couple times on there,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: couple I only know of one, but they talked about
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: it on they did the protect your Park shit with
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: the like I watched a lot of Joe Rogan.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: See I watch a f amount of it.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, but you've been brought up on there a
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: couple of times.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I have no idea how you actually get
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 3: on Joe Rogan. I'll gladly.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of his thing. I'm not sure
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: he has like a fucking whatever.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: He's interested in. Yeah, sometimes I see him doing interviews.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: With people that are like really official, and I'm like, oh,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: that person's PR team probably will line this up with
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: old Joe Rhodes.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: But I'm surprised, Like hash, I'm surprised I haven't seen
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Rober Kennedy on your podcast or you try to stay
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: away from the politics.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: I think he's a kapper, do you think so?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: I listened to a whole interview with him, found him
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: kind of impressive, and then I listened to another podcast
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: that sort of broke down all of his lies I
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: think he has a very strained relationship with the truth,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: and I'm not really interested in a lot of these
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: people that are sort of making careers out of, you know,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: basically casting suspicion on the vaccine in ways that I
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: don't think make any fucking sense. Uh So, Yeah, I'm
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: not really a big fan of that guy, not a fan.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: He might have some good things to say, but I
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: I don't really feel like he's being honest with his audience.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think because your obviously dad had a big
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: career in politics, right, you grew.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: Up, A lot of people think that.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: But well, I mean, obviously he was close with the
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, A lot of people think I might be in
• 1:35:14
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  Speaker 3: total fucking nobody.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess he was the governor of Arkansas.
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  Speaker 1: But right, he wasn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad like helped out on his campaign, and
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• 1:35:36
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• 1:35:39
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, my dad had you know, I think my
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: dad like pictured himself having a longer career in politics,
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• 1:35:51
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• 1:35:59
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, you, I mean, I
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: grew up a Democrat, you know, on my families that way.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: But it feels like politically shit is just kind of
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, no more bro on
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: both sides, it's just wild.
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  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I feel like a man without a home
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: because I don't you know, I can't vibe with all
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: these fucking social justice warrior lunatics.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: I can't vibe with like the.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Trump, the crazy psychotic Trump sh the GOP, even like
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: fucking deranged death cult. Yeah, Desants is a wild boy,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Like I'm good on It's just like like you said, like,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: where's the normal do.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: At the middle of the road. There's got to be
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: something that's a little bit more middle of the road, Like,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't really like even Biden. I don't
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: think Biden has like crazy ideas about gender in his head,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: in his ninety thousand year old head, but I do
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: think he has people on his cabinet or like working
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: within his administration that have insane ideas about gender. And
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of unfortunate that I have to
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: vote for somebody who is basically being held hostage by
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of these crazy ass ideas, since I don't
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: think he's personally really invested in it. But at the
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: same time, could I vote for Trump who tried to
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: steal the.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: Election couldn't do it? No, so I couldn't vote for Trump. No,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: I agree for me, I'm hoping this is like I'm
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: a vote for Cornell West the Green Party.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: No, I like that. What's his name, the Indian guy,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: the Republican Canadate.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: He's actually not a crazy person, kind of like him.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 3: I still can't remember how to say his name, Vi Vivic.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna call him Vivek Rashashana. Yeah, that's not that's
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: not that, but it's something that kind of sounds like that.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: I listened to like a two hour podcast with him
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: the other day, and I kept thinking about you listening
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: to the All In podcast.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually saw the Robert F. Kennedy podcast on there.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: And that is what I was referring to. Yeah, he
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 3: uh did a really good job on that episode, So that.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Was I came away from that being like, I'm voting
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: for this guy.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: Oh the Kennedy one, Yeah, oh yeah, I thought it
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: was pretty good at first. But the vividfect Rahashana, whose name.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: I got to check him out.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: I thought he had a very good appearance on there.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: So that was also.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: Man vote voting for a Republican I've never seen it
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: would be.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: I've never even think I've never even thought about that
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: in my life.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just takes the Democratic Party getting a
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: little bit crazier and the GOP getting a little bit
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: more normal, and I could find myself there. And also
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like it would be that big a deal,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: whereas like two white guys admitting, like in who exists
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: in hip Hop admitting that they've considering voting for Republican.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like we would have had a
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: BuzzFeed article about us already if this was taking place, Like.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be honest, like I'm not voting
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: for I mean, the only guy who I've heard is
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: like reasonable as a guy you just brought up. I mean, unfortunately,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: if it's DeSantis and Trump or one of them two
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: versus Biden, I'm just gonna have to vote for Sleepy
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: Joe again. I'm really, honestly probably going to vote for
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Cornell West. I'm just going to surrender my vote to
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: the third party.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: I do think Biden has done a pretty good job,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: regardless of his own lack of cognitition.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, he seems like he's barely hanging on.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Afghanistan with draw was done in
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: an extremely messy and terrible way, and now China's there
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: and it's very unstable, and uh, I hate the fact
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: that this Ukraine War is becoming I mean it. I mean, look,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: it's pushing China and Russia closer together. I think the
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Ukraine Wars a fucking disaster.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but can you imagine how bad it would have
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: been if Trump was the president during it.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, we don't know.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: We had a very hard time standing up to Russia.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe has been gangster as fuck. He
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: is not scared of.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: The r I'm waiting for the Hunter Biden podcast run
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: whenever he's clear from whatever Plea deal that just fell through.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah it fell through, isn't that crazy?
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: I just got done listening to a New York Times
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: Daily podcast about the deal and then find out the
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 3: deal that they made this podcast about him taking did
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: not happen.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got He thought if he took the plea
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: everything it was included, and the judge was like, nope.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: Poor sleepy Joe and its crackhead.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: So on, Oh hey, I'm not gonna lie though, Hunter
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Biden looked like he was a hell of a hand brouh.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: This guy was having sex parties, smoking crack, going one
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy miles an hour in the.
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  Speaker 2: Nevaday Exact with strangers.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: Just a wild bully.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: Leaving your laptop at the at the.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Like a very reckless, one of one guy.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: Kind of sounds like a lot of the people I'd
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: be interviewing.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like yeah, it's like this guy should be
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: on No Jumper with Kritmak right, Like, I.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: Think Hunter Biden and Taste Savage would probably get along
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: It's crazy man. Well, look I appreciate you pulling up.
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• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: what's up with flock? Are we snitching on this? Uh?
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: This this swiper man.
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  Speaker 1: I saw he put a post up saying like if
• 1:40:56
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• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: Know who hit me up is Ugly God very upset
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  Speaker 3: Punch made dev have a relationship their friends, oh, which
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  Speaker 3: up basically saying fuck Flocco. I was like, I thought
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  Speaker 3: this was all for content. I didn't think.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Because he's like openly advocating like hit me up. I'm
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: putting it like I'm essentially it felt like one of
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  Speaker 1: those commercials you're watching in the middle of the day
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• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: Well, because okay, so I lived through the TJX six
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  Speaker 3: arc right, and I thought this was the same thing
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: as that because TJ six, I'm gonna be real with you,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: he was not really like scamming like that, like at
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: least once.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: He begins having sending money for like a manual.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: And yeah, but he did so much fake shit, like
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: he had he had a show at a warehouse or whatever,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: and he had like a fake cop come and arrest him.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: It feels like the kind of thing you'd be at.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there, but I saw the video.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: I wish it's like the kind of thing he would
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: have been at.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like one of the best interviews ever, Like,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: and I remember as soon as I got in the interview,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: because he said a lot of stuff that like it
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: didn't feel like but it's like it was so absurd
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: that I knew he had to kind of be trolling.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 3: Like he goes, I'm like, when are you gonna stop scamming?
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 3: I'm never gonna stop. I'm gonna do this shit for life.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm just thinking in my head, I'm like, Okay,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 3: this isn't real, Like this is just a dude like
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 3: shit to go viral. And then as soon as we
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: get done the interview, he goes over to his bandager
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: and he's just.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 5: Like, ah, that shit goes crazy, like this shit gonna
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 5: be old d And I'm just realizing in my head, like, ah,
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 5: I just got played, but I don't even care because
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 5: it was great content.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: So like I assume when I see like Punch Made
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: Dev his video got taken down by the Feds and
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 3: they're investigating them, I just assume that it's probably cap
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 3: it's probably marketing right right, But maybe it's not.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's a real deal. I don't know.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: So for you, like, do pull Flocko call him? Hey,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: what's going on?
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: Bro? Are we are? We?
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Like, are you like snitching on this guy because you
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: obviously he's under your roof.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: Actually, Punch Made Dev tapped in with me again about
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: doing the interview, like we had already talked about it,
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: and then we talked about it and then like stopped.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: He stopped responding for a couple of days, and then
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: Floco went on this campaign against him and then he
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: tapped in with me again like about doing it. So
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: perhaps Flocko being an asshole or you know, a good citizen,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: depending on how you want to look at it, perhaps
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: that is what's going to actually make the interview happen.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know, so I interview. Might Would you have
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Flocko sit in on the interview, I'd probably.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: Be dangerous, potentially put security in the room.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: Definitely have to have security. Yeah, your security at your
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: building is like that fucking.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: Crazy Tony's been in a few shootouts too, so I
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  Speaker 1: Like, yo, yeah you got to sign this. Let me shure.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: It's like I'm getting wanded. I'm like Jesus Christ.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: I took him to the hood with Swifty Blue the
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• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Swift he is a good guy.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I could tell that he was maybe.
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  Speaker 1: You took your security guard with you.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I could tell he was maybe a little
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: bit like worried about the fact that we were just
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: like pulling into random.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: Some pretty crazy like a hood vlog.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: I know, I wish I had done more of that
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: back on the day because I remember I did the
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• 1:44:14
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't too long ago. Yeah, which seemed to
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• 1:44:32
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• 1:44:45
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• 1:44:45
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