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25W: Our Favorite Sports Villains of All Time + Kevin's Quest to Break 90 Begins Next Week + Adam Breneman on NIL Deals Changing the Landscape of College Sports + Rob Parker talking New MLB Rules and Why They're Good for the Game + Eddie Makes an Appearance... twice · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five whistle Stocking Ports and
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  Speaker 1: they all wear a whist so, yeah, it's too bad,
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  Speaker 1: But what did you expect. It's a podcast called twenty
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: five Whistles, Twine.
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  Speaker 2: Wheels, Helload welc on the show, presenter by DraftKings, DraftKings
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  Speaker 2: in on the action. We got two great interviews. The
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  Speaker 2: first one we'll talk inn ils. The second one we'll
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: talk baseball and basketball. But I want to start with
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Tiger Woods, which, by the way, we do this show
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: in the studio. We do the radio show, but Eddie's
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: still working in here, and Eddie joins us later as well, accidentally.
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: Because I'm in and out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah, but I guess before I get
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: the Tiger, I want to ask you a question because
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: I got a DM from somebody and I want to
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: know how.
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  Speaker 4: You feel about it.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I heard on twenty five Whistles today that
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: you're going, of course, is closed. My club is closed
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: because they're like literally tearing the course up building a
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: new one. I'm the food and beverage director and executive chef.
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: At should I say where it?
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  Speaker 4: Does it matter? Nashville?
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  Speaker 2: I'll just said Nashville Golf and Athletic Club. We are
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: down the road and we'd love to have you and
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: Eddie out for golf and lunch. I will pull some
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: strings to get y'all out. It would be an honor
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  Speaker 2: for me. Been listening to you guys as I started
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  Speaker 2: my my chef career in Vegas back in twenty ten.
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  Speaker 4: Hit me up for a tea time.
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: And then she says there are some other I say other,
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: there are actual famous people that play there too. Uh,
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: come on out coming to the clubhouse. I want to
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: make you and Eddie some good grub. Let's go, dang dude,
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: let's do it.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: The question is do we I always am weird about
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: calling people and taking them up on stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Sure, so am I. But it's golf though. I mean
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  Speaker 6: I think I'm more like that with a lot of things.
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  Speaker 6: But when it comes to golf, absolutely, I'm in food.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's food, right, But again, there's a chef, and
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: then do we know that they could get us? Is
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: this something that you would like to be a I
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: don't like telling people. Yes, i'd like your free stuff.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: I have real issues with that, just from obviously childhood trauma.
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  Speaker 2: But if you think this is something we should pursue
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  Speaker 2: and it won't be awkward, is that something you want
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  Speaker 2: to do?
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  Speaker 6: You know what, I've never played that course, I've never eaten.
• 2:17
  Speaker 6: That's a factor. Hey, I've never eaten at that restaurant.
• 2:20
  Speaker 6: I would love to see what it's all about over there.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 4: Well, then I think I will send you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you want me to do the talking?
• 2:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing the talking.
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, can I get one of my kids to do
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: the talking?
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: I would just go ooh, thank you, but I don't
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: want to. I want to bother you put you out?
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, that.
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: Would be my and I just wouldn't. I did respond,
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: So I have the message here, and so I will
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: send it to you and have the number and everything.
• 2:51
  Speaker 6: Wait, so you've already responded. What did you say? Did
• 2:53
  Speaker 6: you say like I said, to think about it?
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, I said, if I know, Eddie will want to
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: take you up on that, And you do know? And
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: then she said, I left my cell on the twenty
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: five whistles message board, and I said, there's a message
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: board wait, where is that? She said, I message to
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: twenty five whistles page. I was trying to catch your attention.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: Left it there, but I have her number here. Do
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: you want to call.
• 3:13
  Speaker 3: Her like me personally?
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  Speaker 7: Not right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: No, yes, you of course you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, why am I doing this?
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: She messaged you yes, but she said to you as well,
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: and she went hit twenty five whistles and I don't
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: feel comfortable doing it.
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: Should we go middle school and do it three way?
• 3:27
  Speaker 4: Nope?
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: Well okay, no, no.
• 3:28
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, no no, Kevin, don't understand now to stop. No no, no,
• 3:31
  Speaker 6: you're too young to know what that means. No, it's
• 3:33
  Speaker 6: not what you think it means. It means you just
• 3:35
  Speaker 6: get on the phone like three of us and talk.
• 3:38
  Speaker 4: I know, okay, I know you have to go.
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: Uh huh? So should we do that?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 2: I have no, I will feel awkward. You can be
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: the point person if you feel like we should go.
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  Speaker 2: If not, I'm cool not going. I just feel like
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: I'm putting somebody out. Dude, free golf, free lunch. We
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: have to take her up on this. I just sent
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  Speaker 2: you the number. Okay, go call her now, right now
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  Speaker 2: if you want to.
• 4:00
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna do any I don't want to do. I'm
• 4:02
  Speaker 6: like you, I don't like doing this stuff at all.
• 4:03
  Speaker 6: Do I like free golf? Absolutely? Do I like doing
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  Speaker 6: all that set up stuff?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 3: I hate it.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Check it out school. I'll get someone else to do it.
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: But it's not about somebody else. I think either you
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: or I should do it or we shouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't want to do it.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, oh no, dude, it's free golf and it's one
• 4:19
  Speaker 8: phone call.
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: Then you do it, Kevin, I didn't get invited, and
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: I'm a whimp. I just feel weird. But I would
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: do it. If you like you're running it, I'll be
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: happy to do it. But I would not make the
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: call because I don't want to put anybody out.
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah I know, I know.
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: And also it's like, hey, we like to come. Can
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: we get a tea time? Well, we can only play it.
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: We only have certain amounts times we can play.
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: Right, all right, let me let me call her up, feel.
• 4:40
  Speaker 6: It out and see how it goes, okay, let us know, okay,
• 4:42
  Speaker 6: all right, talking about golf.
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: I wanted to start with this earlier today. This was
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: this was not today, but Tiger wrote this as a statement.
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: Earlier today, Tiger Woods underwent a sub taller fusion procedure
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: to address this post traumatic arthritis from his previous talis fracture.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: A lot of words, I don't know what they mean.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: I figure they're all bones and parts of foot.
• 5:02
  Speaker 9: Hello is something? Rather.
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  Speaker 2: It was performed by doctor Martin O'Malley at HSS Sports
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: Medicine Institute in New York City. He has determined the
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: surgery to be successful. Tiger is currently recovering it looks
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: forward to beginning his rehabilitation. So I just wanted to
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: start with I'm now starting to feel like Tiger won't
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: set the record and beat Jack Nicholas. I always felt
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: like he had it in him. I always felt like
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: Tiger could scrape one or two together. I mean, Phil
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: has won in his fifties. You know, there are guys
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: who every once in a while, an old timer comes
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  Speaker 2: and sneaks to one of the majors. If the course
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: plays just right, they hit just right, the conditions are good.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: I always felt like Tiger could kind of grind out
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: two or three. I don't feel that way anymore though,
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  Speaker 2: because of all of the physical especially from the.
• 5:43
  Speaker 8: Car wreck that I think that was what did it.
• 5:46
  Speaker 8: He's not gonna be the same, won't be the same.
• 5:48
  Speaker 8: It's one thing after another once a year. It almost
• 5:50
  Speaker 8: seems like he's recovering from this surgery from this.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: Makes me sad, very makes me sad because Tiger was
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: is I think the best golfer of all time m hm.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: And we're not gonna get to see Hi breaking record.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: He probably would have easily broken. Well, he was getting
• 6:06
  Speaker 2: on with a lot. Yeah, he had some other deals
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: going that caused a bunch of this too. Yeah, you know,
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: he's doing with much chicks. But so much has happened
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: since then, you almost forget about. That's what the first
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: thing was. Yeah, the first thing we heard about it
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: was his wife comes out and busts the back glass
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: him trying to drive away in the SEV Yeah, and
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: we're like, wait, what can you forget that? Like six
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: months of media was all about Yeah. I used to
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: work at Perkins and ibang Tyler or Tiger Yeah, and
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: one after an Athletes when we were coming out like
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: crazy and in a weird the story that came out
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: recently for the woman that's suing him, that she's doing
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: it for a whole crazy amount of money. But it
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: was she wouldn't leave his house.
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: This is what we heard.
• 6:49
  Speaker 10: We heard that.
• 6:51
  Speaker 4: She wouldn't leave his house. So he told her they
• 6:53
  Speaker 4: were going on vacation.
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: So the car took her to the airport and this
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: just dropped off and they locked all the doors so
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: she couldn't get back in.
• 6:58
  Speaker 4: That's hardcore.
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: That's a hardcore because if she wouldn't leave, that's that's
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: pretty strategic. And I can't imagine I wouldn't want to
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: leave if I had the lifestyle. And I remember seeing
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: her with's Tiger though when they were together. She was
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: like at tournaments with them, should be walking around on
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: the courses, yeaeah, But apparently she she was everywhere with them.
• 7:21
  Speaker 9: You never know what's going on behind the doors, off
• 7:23
  Speaker 9: the course.
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: They had to go, Hey, Tiger really wants to take
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: you on a vacation, So get in the car. Get
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: all your bags. No, get all your stuff. But I
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: don't need all my stuff. I'm just going for two weeks. Now,
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: I go ahead and get it all everything. Yeah, get
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: everything everything. Who knows how long you'll be in the
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: standbull or wherever they're going.
• 7:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, got your bed too, and like.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: They're taking her to the airport. But I don't think
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: they took well, this way is not the way to
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: the airport.
• 7:47
  Speaker 4: No, it's another way.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: You know. That's another one, the private one. Obviously you're
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: going to a different terminology. He's a Tiger's own hanger.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: Come on, no, but I've been to that hanger.
• 7:56
  Speaker 7: It's a new one.
• 7:56
  Speaker 4: It's a new one.
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  Speaker 9: It's Tiger.
• 7:59
  Speaker 4: And then lock all the doors in case she comes back.
• 8:02
  Speaker 7: That's awesome.
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: In case she comes back, though, that's the crazy thing. Again,
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: this we just heard the story. It's not They just
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: got her out of there and said, okay, you're not
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: allowed to come back or we will presh charges or trespassing.
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: They got her out of there and then physically lock
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: the doors. I need to see like a ring camera
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: of this. If she came back. Can she's dressed like
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: a pizza man turned to trick her way back in dominos?
• 8:23
  Speaker 9: We didn't order to pet the Yes you did.
• 8:27
  Speaker 2: I'm sad because I did feel like Tiger could do it.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: I think we got to watch the greatest golfer of
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: all time in our generation. We have a few athletes
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: that are that are that that are him, that are her.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: You can put him on a hand. You got Jordan,
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: although you didn't get to watch Jordan that much, did you?
• 8:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 8:41
  Speaker 9: No, I didn't so upset about that.
• 8:43
  Speaker 4: I was young.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: I did so I got to watch Jordan, got to
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: watch Tiger, got to watch Serena.
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: Who else would you put in that?
• 8:50
  Speaker 7: Come on?
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: You know who we're missing Tom Brady obviously, yes.
• 8:54
  Speaker 9: I got to watch him, yeah a lot. Yeah, but who.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: Then there's borderline, Like borderline are people like Lebron, Kobe
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: Shack and those three aren't even the same. But I
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: mean probably Lebron and Kobe would be there, Lebron more
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: than Kobe. I'm gonna put Lebron in that as my fifth.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: If we're doing athletes that are generational that change the
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: way of sport is played, I think you have to
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: put those five from our sports. I don't know anything
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: about hockey.
• 9:25
  Speaker 9: Steph's right there too, just because he changed the game.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think Steph, though, is a pop culture phenomenon
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: outside of being big in sports. He's doing something, He's
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: out there a little bit, but I don't think he's
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: that to the level of a Lebron who changed Lebron
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: might have been the first high school player that were
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: showing his games on ESPN. Yeah, he was on the
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: front Sports Illustrated as a high school kid. So as
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: of now, I'm gonna sit with that because in just
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: second we're gonna get to the title.
• 9:51
  Speaker 7: Tittle.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: But let's see, I'm gonna go Lebron Jordan basketball, football,
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: Tom Brady. I think like a Peyton Manning and a
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: Shack and Kobe are like the same.
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: They're just right there close, but they ain't exactly that.
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: What puts Tom Brady there is the list of championship
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: years he has, right, Yeah, so Lebron, Tom Brady, Serena Williams. Obviously,
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's baseball wise, I know I'm trying to think
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: of like Mike trouton No, I mean, as great as
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: he is, I know that nobody really does in baseball.
• 10:18
  Speaker 8: He plays for the Angels, they don't win. He's just
• 10:20
  Speaker 8: not relevant when it really matters. And then you got
• 10:22
  Speaker 8: to think maybe Geter.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: I guess, big winner, but I don't know that is
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: that like change the game. But those that's who we're
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: settling with today. Those five already forgot him. So Lebron,
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: let's do basketball first, so just so I can remember
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: Lebron and Jordan and basketball in football, Tom Brady in tennis,
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Serena Williams.
• 10:40
  Speaker 9: Three.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of tennis guys though that are
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: pretty equal ish. But I'm that are great, the greatest ever,
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: but they've all been like trading places. Djokovic probably now
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: Federer at all?
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: Is that is this four?
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: I just do four?
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: I forget one.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: Kobe, Well, somebody got liminated about that's that jobs baby?
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: About soccer, I don't enough about it. I can only
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: do the sports that I know. About David Beckham, I
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: don't think no. I think he was a really good
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: looking guy and he's a really good player on the
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: biggest team in close your icon though, but later though Gretzky.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: Gretzky probably in hockey, but I don't know. If about soccer, Mike,
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: I would say more than Beckham would be if I
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: were just guessing, like a Ronaldo or a Messy. But
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: I don't have the context to know that next level
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: because I don't watch enough. Anyway, enough about that, it's
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: time for the tittle Tattle.
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: Time to put his name ever the tittle Tattle.
• 11:37
  Speaker 8: In honor of Draymond Green stomping this week? Who is
• 11:40
  Speaker 8: your favorite sports villain of all time?
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: By the way, Draymond Green got screwed. That should have
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: just been a flagrant. His folk was held. We've seen
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: it a thousand times. His history got him. He got
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: bit by the history bug. Justice for Draymond Green. Also
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: like Draymond Green, so that's probably why. But man, it
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: did look brutal, did it right? Like when it happened,
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: it looked brutal. Look like he was step on his heart.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: He's trying to stomp his heart out. Oh yeah, but
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: then you see his foot was grad Listen. Did he
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: probably do it? Yes, yes, he went harder than he
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: had to. Absolutely, But he didn't just see him on
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: the ground and go stomp on his chest. That's all
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: I want to say. He didn't ask me that question,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: but I feel like I need to say that clarification. Yes,
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: So best sports villains of all time? Number one to
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: me is the Houston Astros. Those cheating suckers beaten on
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: trash cans. They cheated, they cheated, and then they didn't
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: even have to serve the consequences. They didn't even have
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: to do jail time because COVID hit and they got
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: to play the empty stadiums when people weren' booing him
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: the whole time.
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: The Astros hate him, I still hold it agains him.
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: It's not in the same team. What were you gonna say.
• 12:40
  Speaker 9: I was gonna say.
• 12:41
  Speaker 8: It didn't even help that they won the World Series
• 12:42
  Speaker 8: last year without all that.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: Not the same team. There are a couple of players,
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: but the Astros. To me, during that time, I hated him.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: I still feel not positive about him, but I also
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: realized it's not the same. But yeah, the Astros, for me,
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: that's a bad one. Next up, I'd put Duke Duke basketball,
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: and I'm going organizations here first. Before I get to
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: a few players. Here's why people don't like Duke one.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: We hate him because we ain't him.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: They won. They won, They freaking won, and they're.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: Rich school, and they presented themselves mostly they always had
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: like a guy that you didn't like. They always had
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: like a bad guy on the bad guy team, so
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: you already had a reason not to like him.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: They felt a little duck up.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: You knew they were kind of rich and they won
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: and all that didn't But then when you would add
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: somebody like Grayson Allen. Yeah, it's like you just want
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: to plutch him in the face. And if he played
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: for you loved and played against you hated him. So
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Duke pops on my list at number two. When it
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: comes to villains, a Rod hate him. There just doesn't
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: seem to be a quality about him as a person
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: that you like. And he got busted for the for
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: the juice. He did get busted, right, Yeah, okay, making
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: sure I knew, we knew he needed a Rod big
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: villain to o ended up being a pretty big, big
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: villain for a while.
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: He was a hero too.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: For a while.
• 14:07
  Speaker 9: I actually liked him.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: You lived long enough as a hero. Eventually he'll be
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: a villain.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Floyd Mayweather, anybody that takes the money and puts it
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: out It is like, this is my million dollars in
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: a suitcase, look at it on Instagram. They just become
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: someone that doesn't like because and they know it and
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: they're like they're encouraging it to happen. But I would
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: say those are the big villains when that comes to mind,
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: what about you?
• 14:27
  Speaker 8: Mine would be that I like though kind of flipping
• 14:30
  Speaker 8: this would be a Randy Moss.
• 14:32
  Speaker 9: He comes to mind.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Randy Moss. He pulled his pants down,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, but they weren't real pants, they were airpants. Yeah,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: and he was always like he moved everybody with air exactly. Yes,
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: and he was fun to watch.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Randy Moss is awesome.
• 14:42
  Speaker 9: Alan Iverson Yeah I.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: Liked a I too. Yeah, cool, cool.
• 14:46
  Speaker 8: He rubbed people the wrong way a little bit. And
• 14:48
  Speaker 8: then this one you're really not gonna like. But Brooks Koepka.
• 14:51
  Speaker 8: I like Brooks Kepka. Yeah, he's a villain to me,
• 14:55
  Speaker 8: like in my general life. I watched them on I
• 14:57
  Speaker 8: don't know, I watch them on Netflix. I never had
• 15:01
  Speaker 8: a feeling about him really, except he'd win.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: He'd be like, oh, look at the muscular guy.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: He's kind of like the football player Jock who now
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: wins a golf and you just go, I'm jealous because
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: I ain't that.
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: But then you watch him on full swing and you're like, no,
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: I don't like him as well.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and then he's joined liv. I mean it
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: all just kind of matched up with Bruce Kaprika. But yes,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: great villains, all all right. Next going to the next one.
• 15:24
  Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts just got a two hundred and fifty five
• 15:26
  Speaker 8: million dollar contract. If you were to get that contract,
• 15:28
  Speaker 8: what's the first thing you would buy?
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Well, two hundred and fifty five millions. So he's not
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: gonna get all that. Obviously, he's gonna get a lot,
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. But if I were doing the
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: quick math here, he so he's gonna get about probably
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: like one hundred and ten million dollars once all his
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: agent fees, once the taxes are taken out. So let's say,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: let's say a hundred and fifteen million, I buy a jet.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: That's really what I would buy. I buy jet you
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: could get. They're expensive to have and keeping a hanger
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: and a fun and pilot. But if I got one
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: hundred fifty million from that deal, and I'm getting other
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: money coming in too, obviously from other places as well, I.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Get a jet, like twenty million.
• 16:05
  Speaker 9: How big of a jet? Can twenty million?
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: How big?
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: You get a good eight seater eight to ten seater?
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Immediately that'd be my big thing. I'll go and I
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: would get.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: A jet that'd be so sick. Oh yeah, that's it.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: That's the only answer I have because I give me
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: one hundred million right now. First thing I'm gona do
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: give all you guys or nothing and get me a jet.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 16:24
  Speaker 9: Can we go on the jets?
• 16:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you can go on the jet, all right.
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: Next out, With the major rule changes going on in
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: the MLB, what does one more rule change you would
• 16:31
  Speaker 8: like to see any sport?
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Have I've mentioned this before.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I think it is bizarre that in the NBA, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: make a great pass and you go up and you
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: get fouled after I made that great pass, and then
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: you make your free throws that I don't get an assist.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: You didn't even get.
• 16:47
  Speaker 7: To the line.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: You won't even got to the line if I wouldn't.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Give you that great pass or got the shot, and
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: you probably would have made it otherwise. If I make
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: a great pay, if I'm John Stockton, I see karmelone
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: cutting boom back door, he goes up, boh, foul, he
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: goes to makes his free throws, I should get an assist.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I set all that up. I assisted those points. I
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: think it is it's just bizarre there is no assist
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: given at that time. I don't even think that was
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: that crazy. I don't even know if that one's ever
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: been discussed, and if it hasn't why hasn't it been,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: because that's amazing.
• 17:17
  Speaker 9: I like that one.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: The other one would be.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: In college basketball, when they do the playing games, they
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: should only be teams that.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Are at large bids.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: You know, they have the sixty four, then they have
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: sixty eight, and then they play into the sixty four
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: and they have those those terrible games early in the
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: week that nobody wants to play. Then you're tired by
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: the time you have to go play the one seed. Anyway,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: if you win your conference and you get into the tournament,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you should be able to get into the tournament. Like
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: you won your conference, you should have a spot to
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: play in the NCAA tournament. The only teams that should
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: play the play in games are at large teams. If
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: you're going to make them the two eleven seeds and
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: they do the elevens are usually that all those play
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: ins need to be people playing in because they were
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: given a free ticket to get in because they didn't
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: win their ticket.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Outright, I feel that would be fair because.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: You hate for like a Colgate or a Nibisco, you
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: or whoever else to win their tournament. Be so excited
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: by the way you're playing Tuesday, you don't even get
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: to playing that EI, there's a chance you don't get
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: to play in the real tournament, right.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: That sucks. That's stupid, So I would change that as well.
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: We talked about Tiger a little bit ago and he
• 18:24
  Speaker 8: just had surgery. So I'm wondering what your worst surgery
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: is that you've ever had or worse INJURYO.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Uh, both of the same.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: But I was a kid kid, I fell off a
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: house on my stomach rupture my spleen. Didn't know what
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: it was like, almost drown it internally in my own blood.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Is a whole situation.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I was in the hospital for a long time as
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: a kid, but I was like five, was like six,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: so to me, I remember it, but I don't really
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: have like memories of going. My whole life has been
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: interrupted because of an injury or a surgery.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Also, I didn't really.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Know surgery what. Yeah, I was scared when you don't
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: know enough to be scared. H I broke a couple
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: of ribs and that wasn't a surgery but just broken crap.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe hurt worse thannything's ever happened to me because it
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: was constant. You know how you have a headache and
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do when you have a headache
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: to make the headache away. There's nothing you can do
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: except get rid of the headache. And sometimes you just
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: sit there with a freaking migraine. You can't walk, you
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: can't The ribs very similar that you can't breathe, and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: you have to breathe all the time, so then you're
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: thinking about your breath all the time.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: The ribs brutal broke to playing high school football. I
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: have three broken fingers and they hurt, but they hurt
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: more now.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Than they did then because every time the air pressure
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: changes like that which means new weather's coming in new front,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: they start aching. They've always ached since they've been broken.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So I have a shoulder. When I tore my shoulder
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: and dancing with the Stars and didn't have a surgery,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: they said I should probably go in if I wanted
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to have surgery unless you can just deal with the pain.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: And I still deal with it. I had a friend
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: who played in the NFL, like, do not get shouldlder surgery.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: He was like, if you can, if you can do it,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: just keep going. Don't even go after the show's over, Like,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: just do rehab because shoulder surgery messages you up for
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: a long time. So, but the shoulder thing bothers me
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: constantly now. But I'm lucky that I haven't had a
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: bad one as an adult. But the ribs hurt, my
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: finger still hurt. My shoulder kills me a lot if
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I had to go to a lot of rehab for it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: But nothing't like but Tiger, I mean, Tiger got right
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and messed him all up?
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: All right? Go ahead?
• 20:25
  Speaker 8: Two talked about mulling retirement earlier this week. Who are
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: some athletes that you wish retired sooner than they did?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Emmitt Smith comes to mind because I hated seeing him
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: play with the Cardinals. I didn't like the Cowboys, but
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: it just felt weird watching him put that cardinal's helmet
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: on and play for the Cardinals that year.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Aren't even for us A year or two years, I
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: don't know, probably one. It sucked.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it, and I I say, no, I've
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: spent some time with him. I probably could message him
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: and he'd be like, hey, what up? So be a
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: couple times in Emmitt So, I love him, but I don't.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't like him as a Cardinal. I didn't know
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: him at all. Then and then Shaq was on so
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: many weird teams at the end, even playing for the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Celtics at the end.
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree, even as a fan.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just like, I don't like what's happening here, Shack.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: You should never be sitting on the bench.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: It doesn't look good. It's not right. You're the man.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Go away the man.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: But we don't know what's happened with money, true, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: we don't know why he's playing his love. If he
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: has love and they want to put it on the roster, great,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: good deal. But emtt Smith and Shack to me, what
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: about you?
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: For me, it would be probably Peyton Manning.
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: I know he won when he went out, he went,
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: I know, but he looked so awful, so hard to
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: watch it.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Ok, then here I'll go with another great, Michael Jordan.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: That's the one, Peyton Manning. If that's your answer, that's fine.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: You're dumby, but still.
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: A transfer, you know, because Michael Jordan.
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: I only I remember more vividly on the Wizards, which
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: hurts my brain.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: That's weird.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you really didn't see a lot of
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the Wow, you're right, you're right. We talked about that
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you didn't see a lot of earlier. Michael Jordan's for me. Also,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Randy Moss playing for the Seahawks.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I think he did that. For a minute.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: You're digging deep in your brain because I don't have
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: any sort of reference on that, and I know you didn't,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: But I think Randy Moss played for the Seahawks.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: For for just a second.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: The Titans.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Everyone's thinking he played for the Titans.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Randy mossy half a year, Yeah, exactly, I remember
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: all that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: All right, there you go.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: That is the tittle Tattle.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Thank you stupid his name ever, it's the tittle Tattle.
• 22:10
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• 22:21
  Speaker 2: NBA games. First of all, I missed hard on the Warriors.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I just thought the Warrior wouldn't lose another game. They
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: are because they're at home five and a half point
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: favorite as of right now as I'm doing this, that
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: could change. But they've been terrible on the road all year,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: they've been great at home, so I think the Warriors
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: are going to roll. So I would take the Warriors
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: minus five and a half tonight, just because I can't
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: believe how bad they are on the road.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: I can't.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I can't believe how they just aren't winning on them, Like,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: what is the big difference with Golden State on the road.
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and how it's transitioned.
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: Everyone kind of forgot about that and then you get
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: there like, oh, yeah, they're really bad on the road.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Well all year.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I just expected them to win Game two for sure,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: because even though it was in sack. Yeah, So the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Sixers minus four and a half at the Nets.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I just feel like the Sixers is probably gonna roll
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: this too. It doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: The Suns minus two and a half at the Clippers.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: That series, I don't have my finger on quite yet,
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  Speaker 2: to tails. We do a great interview here. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: talk with former five star recruit and Penn State tight
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: end Adam Brenneman.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: That's old school.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: We're on mostly because we're gonna talk about his media
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  Speaker 2: company called Mercury, where he helps athletes monetize their nil
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  Speaker 2: worth personalized brand building, I think learning about nils and
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: because people just throw it out all the time, portal
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  Speaker 2: and IL, we'll get them by pay and io throw
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: them into portal. But let's actually talk about what that means.
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  Speaker 2: And he also coached with HERM Edwards. He has a
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  Speaker 2: Adam Brenneman eighty one and we'll talk more about a
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  Speaker 2: show and everything else in this So here is Adam Brenneman.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: Adam, what's up?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: So Bobby, how are you man?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: So I have a lot of questions because especially with
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: what you're doing and what you specialize in with Team Mercury.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: But just to give people just a background on who
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: you are, five star recruit, you played tied End, you
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: went to Penn State. You obviously have a college football
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: career that I mean, you have what the longest touchdown
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: reception by a tight end of Penn State history?
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: How long was that reception?
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: By the way, it was sixty eight yards? Man, And
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: I'm a hold onto that one forever. I've been telling
• 24:57
  Speaker 10: people every time everywhere I go, I tell people about
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: that record.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I think someone's going to hit a seventy eighty yarder.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: You don't think that to be broken?
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: No, you know, you know those records that are like
• 25:07
  Speaker 10: longest touchdown by a freshman who was under six two.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: So Adam has this like a great playing career. But
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: then Team Mercury is Will you explain that to our
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: listeners before I kind of get into some questions about it.
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, So Mercury's a sports media company at its core.
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: We have a variety of shows, podcasts, talent. You know,
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: you can kind of think of it as a barstool
• 25:33
  Speaker 10: sports that specializes in just college sports, and we actually
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: partner with colleges and universities, some of which Kentucky, Kansas, Oklahoma, Clemson, Villanova, UCF,
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: some premier colleges and college athletics to partner with them
• 25:49
  Speaker 10: to create these fan experiences, these fan platforms, and then
• 25:53
  Speaker 10: also do ANIL deals with their players, which allows us
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: access that really no one else has. And we have
• 25:59
  Speaker 10: a few shows that student athletes actually hosts. So it's
• 26:03
  Speaker 10: a pretty cool concept, pretty unique. At its core, we're
• 26:06
  Speaker 10: a sports media company.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: So the NIL is what I'm super curious about and
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on it, And just to give you my background,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I think I've done ANIL deals with about twelve or
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: thirteen players at the University of Arkansas, from football players,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: women's basketball, cheerleading, et cetera. So I try to support
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: those guys, meaning guys women both, And so let's just
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: talk about it, and how do you feel the NIL
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: is affecting college sports and in good way, bad way?
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Like what are the pros and cons so far?
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: I mean it is it's changed the game completely, as
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: you know, Bobby, it's we're still kind of in the
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: phase of figuring it all out. Right, it's you know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: what are the implications? What's it mean long term? How
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: do how are universities involved? You know, when this came down,
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: it obviously came down from a court ruling, but still
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: there's been state laws that are different across state. I
• 27:00
  Speaker 10: mean for a long time, you look at penn State
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: versus Ohio State. Ohio State coaches were allowed to be
• 27:05
  Speaker 10: involved in NIL deals based on their state law, while
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: Pennsylvania coaches weren't. You know, So it's been this kind
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: of uneven playing field. No one really knows what's going on.
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: I think at its core, NIL is a great thing.
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: I mean I remember being back in high school and
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: college and like writing essay papers about why student athletes
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: should be able to getet paid and make money off
• 27:25
  Speaker 10: their name, image, and likeness. Now, the issue with NIL
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: is that when NIL came down and the court ruling happened,
• 27:34
  Speaker 10: and it was intended to be you know, the starting
• 27:38
  Speaker 10: quarterback doing an NIL deal with his local car dealership, right,
• 27:41
  Speaker 10: the stuff you're doing, Bobby, you know, that's what NIL
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: is intended to be, being allowing student athletes to do.
• 27:47
  Speaker 10: What it's not intended to be is collectives raising a
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: bunch of money and paying a player to transfer to
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: their school, paying a player to to come to their school,
• 27:55
  Speaker 10: and that's where the discrepancy is. In the NFL, you know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 10: you have marketing deals, you have players are able to
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: do that, there's a salary cap. In college football, you
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: have this thing called recruiting, and recruiting determines who wins
• 28:06
  Speaker 10: the national championship every single year. It's not about the
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: x's and nodes. It's Jimmy's and Joe's. It's a long
• 28:11
  Speaker 10: time saying around college football. It's all about recruiting. And
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: when you tie in NIL with recruiting, obviously pay for
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: play happens a little bit. And you got people trying
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: to use NIL in recruiting to pay players.
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: To come to their school. That's where the issue is.
• 28:25
  Speaker 10: But I really think at the end of the day,
• 28:27
  Speaker 10: at its core, it's a great thing for the sport.
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: I think it's a great thing for the student athletes.
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: But obviously there's still a lot that easy to get
• 28:34
  Speaker 10: figured out, and I think at some point we'll probably
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: see some federal legislation come down that governs the entire thing,
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: because I think the NCAA has shown they can't really handle.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: It or really anything consistently.
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: Anything, Yeah, not just the nil.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like we're aligned in a lot of ways
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: because I advocated, even lobbied to lawmakers if I felt
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: it needed it to where if you're eighteen years old
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: in this country, you can vote, and you can X,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Y and z, and somebody in a classroom that's in
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: a college classroom can be an influencer and they can
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: make But an athlete's actually being punished because he wasn't
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: able to just do equally what everybody else was doing, right,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: So it wasn't that you're giving the athlete any sort
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: of just we're giving you free money. Like if they
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: were strong enough, good enough, known enough to actually get
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: a deal for social media or podcasting, that's what everybody's
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: able to do, why should they be punished. So we're
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: very aligned on that because this is a country too
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: where you're eighteen, you're an adult.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: You should be able to make some money.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: At the same time, very old school archaic rules in
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: college sports and so, like I was totally all in,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I'm still all in and I love it, but at times,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: as you mentioned, it does feel very chaotic and you
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: hear about some of these deals, and I hear about
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: some of these deals through people that I work with,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and there are no rules. It is the wild West.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: So what is going to need to happen? Because usually
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: it takes something really bad or crazy to happen to
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: actually create some sort of force for good. What's going
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: to have to happen to have some rules here?
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I you know, I get asked that question a lot,
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: and I don't. I don't.
• 30:08
  Speaker 10: I really don't have a great answer for how you
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: fix it. I think that the problem comes from a
• 30:14
  Speaker 10: from this one area that I believe is like the
• 30:16
  Speaker 10: main thing that drives the frustration. It's that, you know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: when back up I mentioned the NFL players, and I'm
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: sure you know a bunch of guys too that complain
• 30:26
  Speaker 10: about this. I'm sure the amount of friends I have
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: in the NFL who complain about not making any money
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: on marketing deals is exponential. I mean the amount of
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: guys that are starters in the NFL who complain and
• 30:38
  Speaker 10: are like, man, I only make one hundred grand in
• 30:40
  Speaker 10: marketing deals. It's a lot of money, but a lot
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: of times you think these guys make more money. So like,
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: that's that's because it's there that's the real market value
• 30:48
  Speaker 10: that they bring to a brand. Right, if you're starting
• 30:50
  Speaker 10: tight end in the NFL, you're not making five million
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: bucks a year, and then in marketing deals you may
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: make some money here and there. So I say that
• 30:58
  Speaker 10: to say that the in the value is so high
• 31:01
  Speaker 10: in college football and nil deals, which are supposed to
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: be marketing deals, is because of the recruiting and this
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: one thing called the transfer portal. Right, the transfer portal
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: changed the game completely. You got a guy, for an example,
• 31:15
  Speaker 10: as one of my friends, Kenny Pickett Right, first round
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: draft pick, number one quarterback in the country at Pitt.
• 31:21
  Speaker 10: The guy made one hundred thousand dollars his senior year
• 31:25
  Speaker 10: pit and he was a Heisman candidate. Number one pick
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: in the NFL draft. Right only made one hundred thousand dollars.
• 31:32
  Speaker 10: His market value would have gone up probably fifty x
• 31:36
  Speaker 10: if he just entered the transfer portal. Right, if he
• 31:40
  Speaker 10: entered the transfer portal, he's now worth three million dollars.
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: To a school.
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: But because he stayed a pit, he's not worth any
• 31:46
  Speaker 10: he's worth you know what's he worth in money to
• 31:49
  Speaker 10: pit business?
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Right? Like?
• 31:50
  Speaker 10: What are they going to pay him to do a
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: car dealership commercial. So these guys are incentivized to enter
• 31:56
  Speaker 10: the portal because they're worth more money on the open market.
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: They get more NIL money. The schools use it to
• 32:02
  Speaker 10: bribe them or get them to come to their school.
• 32:04
  Speaker 10: So the combination of NIL and the transfer portal, I
• 32:07
  Speaker 10: think is really you know, you combine everything at this
• 32:10
  Speaker 10: at the same time, college football has changed more in
• 32:12
  Speaker 10: the last five years, and it changed in the last
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: one hundred. At the same time, you combine NIL so
• 32:17
  Speaker 10: players can get paid. You combine the transfer portal with
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: an unlimited transfer or i'm sorry, a first time transfer waiver,
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: not without having to sit out. And then you also
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: combine recruiting being at the hot most competitive level it's
• 32:29
  Speaker 10: ever been. It's a bad combination, and that the portal
• 32:33
  Speaker 10: in the NIL together is where you hear the bad
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: things happening, right and you hear the frustration. You hear
• 32:38
  Speaker 10: the Jordan Addison story of leaving pitt to go to
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: USC last year. I'm sure you remember that story on
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: a massive NIL deal. You hear the stories about Jada Rashada,
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: the quarterback who commits to Florida. They promised the twelve
• 32:49
  Speaker 10: million dollars or whatever it was, and they don't have
• 32:51
  Speaker 10: the money to pay them. It's those combinations that make
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: it that cause issues. So I think if you see
• 32:56
  Speaker 10: anything happen soon, I think it could be some kind
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: of legislation around the transfer waiver or not allowing guys
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: to actually transfer right away after one year, maybe making
• 33:07
  Speaker 10: them wait two years or three years of transfer, something
• 33:10
  Speaker 10: around there. I don't have an exact answer, but I
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: think that's where the problem really stems from.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And you bring up a great point when coaches have
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: to keep recruiting their kids to stay, not just recruiting
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: their kids to come to the program, and what's happening
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: is they say, Okay, the coaches got to convince the
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: kid they want to stay. But it's almost like you've
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: got to convince the kid and pay him more. It's
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: almost like a contract negotiation just so they don't decide
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: to leave. And again, if I were a nineteen year
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: old kid and I didn't come from money and I
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: needed money, I'd probably jump too. If I could get three,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: four or five hundred thousand bucks.
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, it's life changing money even, you know.
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: And one of the reasons I like nil and it
• 33:53
  Speaker 10: sounds like you're in the same mindset, is you got
• 33:56
  Speaker 10: the kid. It's not always the guys making three million bucks, right,
• 33:59
  Speaker 10: it's the starting offensive lineman who was able to make
• 34:02
  Speaker 10: twenty five grand his senior year and that completely changes
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: the trajectory of his life. Right, you leave college football,
• 34:09
  Speaker 10: maybe you don't play the NFL. But if you leave
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: college football and you have and you go to the
• 34:13
  Speaker 10: real world and you have thirty grand in the bank
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: because you did an il deals, I mean, talk about
• 34:17
  Speaker 10: the advantage you have on the rest of the workforce,
• 34:20
  Speaker 10: on the rest of the people out there. It's little
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: things like that. Maybe it's ten grand, maybe it's the
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: kid that can I mean, I remember teammates of mine
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: who would get the pel grant checks, right, the checks
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: for the for low income families, for student athletes that
• 34:33
  Speaker 10: would get their checks for you know, a couple of
• 34:35
  Speaker 10: thousand bucks a semester and send it directly home to
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: their families.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: And that always broke my heart. I'm like, man, like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: where's your money? What are you doing?
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: My family needs so you know, to tell those kids
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: that they can't go make a thousand bucks to do
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: an autograph signding like, that's ridiculous to me. At the
• 34:49
  Speaker 10: same time, there needs to be you know, there needs
• 34:52
  Speaker 10: to be some kind of structure within IO.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: And we can jump off this in a second.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: But something that I found while setting up these deals
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: with different attorney and people at the university to make
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: sure that we met all the requirements and everything was
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: above board. I needed to make it above board for
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: me as well, being a public figure. That what I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: learned is you can basically go all right, I'm gonna
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't do this like my first one was ever
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: was Jaylen Williams, who now plays basketball at Oklahoma City
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: based Arkansas Guy. I gave him fifteen thousand bucks over
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: a series to promote one of my TV shows, and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: so I had him working. You could see him working.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: We had it all out out in public. It wasn't
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: like a million dollar deal, but I felt like it
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: was enough where he really felt valued.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: He did the work.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: And where you come in, especially with your business now,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: it sounds like you're getting some of these athletes to
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: actually do the work where I could literally how I
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: felt while doing these deals. I could say, I'd like
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: for you to come knock on my door, say hi,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna get you a million bucks. And it's
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: not having to be reported. There's no maximum minimum of
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: work you have to do. It's just we've agreed for this,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: and I can pay you this. And that felt like
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: wildly just so open ended that you could pay anybody
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: any amount to really do nothing where you guys are
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: actually doing shows with athletes.
• 36:03
  Speaker 10: You make a great point, you know nil, For an
• 36:06
  Speaker 10: nil deal to be allowed, there has to be some
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: kind of transaction there, right, you can't just pay a guy.
• 36:10
  Speaker 10: It has to be like you said, it has to
• 36:12
  Speaker 10: be you know, there has to be an exchange of services.
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: You know, they have to promote something or some kind
• 36:16
  Speaker 10: of marketing deal. But really, I think the NCAA legislation
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: says something like it has to be fair market value,
• 36:23
  Speaker 10: But like who decides what fair market value is? You know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 10: a collective may tell a quarterback, we're going to pay
• 36:28
  Speaker 10: you a million dollars to come to our school. In exchange,
• 36:31
  Speaker 10: you have to post on social media three times, right,
• 36:34
  Speaker 10: like that's not actually fair market value? But who can
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: tell them that's not right? Who can tell a business
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: that's not worth it for them? So that that's where
• 36:41
  Speaker 10: another huge issue comes in. But yeah, I mean at Mercury,
• 36:45
  Speaker 10: the cool you know, we're not we I have no
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: interest in paying an athlete without without getting something in return. Right,
• 36:51
  Speaker 10: there's nothing in that game for me. There's nothing in
• 36:53
  Speaker 10: it for you and your business either. So you know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 10: for us, it's all about nowadays, is we're seeing athletes
• 37:00
  Speaker 10: want to do their own content. When I was playing football,
• 37:02
  Speaker 10: it was almost you know, not even long ago, it
• 37:04
  Speaker 10: was almost frowned upon to do your own media. You know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: it was almost like, oh, we're football players, we don't
• 37:09
  Speaker 10: talk to the media. Where media is the bad guys.
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: Nowadays you see guys, and it started with Pat McAfee,
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: Draymond Green doing his own show, JJ Reddick doing it.
• 37:18
  Speaker 10: You see these guys that are now athletes want to
• 37:21
  Speaker 10: host their own shows, want to want to do their
• 37:23
  Speaker 10: own media, and they can go right to the source.
• 37:25
  Speaker 10: They can they can end a game and do a
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: podcast and explain what happened and not have to go
• 37:30
  Speaker 10: do not have to explain it to a press conference
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: of thirty reporters staring at them. So that we've capitalized
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: on that and just see found these guys. I mean,
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: we get reached out to. I literally reach out to
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: almost every day of Division one POWERFY football players that
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: want to start their own show. And for us, it's like,
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: where can we put our resources? What makes sense? You know,
• 37:47
  Speaker 10: what can we actually produce? But it's exciting. It's a
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: fun time to be a student athlete. And that's another
• 37:52
  Speaker 10: way that NIL I really think NIL is a part
• 37:54
  Speaker 10: of that is not directly, but Nil's changed the game
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: in the mindset where athletes now want to build brand.
• 38:00
  Speaker 10: They're not afraid to be public, they're not afraid to
• 38:03
  Speaker 10: talk to talk to the media and do their own media.
• 38:06
  Speaker 10: It's really commercialized college sports, and I think it's pretty
• 38:09
  Speaker 10: cool to see to see athletes, you know, building their
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: brand and taking advantage because a lot of them also
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: want to be a media when they're done playing.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like you missed out on a bunch
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: of money because you're a five star recruit and that's
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: got to be I mean, you got to be the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: bell of the ball everywhere you go, especially when it
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: comes to your senior year. I mean, as a five
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: star recruit, just think of the cash you could have
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: made if this was the deal back then.
• 38:30
  Speaker 10: It's funny I was. One of my best friends is
• 38:32
  Speaker 10: a guy named Christian Hackenberg. Remember him, was a was
• 38:35
  Speaker 10: a five star recruit, went to Penn State with me
• 38:37
  Speaker 10: and played for the Jets for a while. We were
• 38:40
  Speaker 10: just he was on my show the other day and
• 38:42
  Speaker 10: we were talking just about like we would have made
• 38:45
  Speaker 10: some money, especially at Penn State. You know, Penn State's
• 38:48
  Speaker 10: a that's a that's a that's an intense community around
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: the football program. And and the time we went there too.
• 38:54
  Speaker 10: I mean we went to Penn State in the middle
• 38:56
  Speaker 10: of you know, the Penn State scandal, when the when
• 38:58
  Speaker 10: the fans were trying to rally around each other.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: It would have been completely different. It would have been nice.
• 39:03
  Speaker 10: I have probably have a few more bucks than I
• 39:05
  Speaker 10: have right now if I would have would have had nil.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Tell me about your show you mentioned it next up
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: with Adam. What are you guys talking about over there?
• 39:11
  Speaker 10: We're doing sit down podcast style conversations. You know, I'd
• 39:15
  Speaker 10: like to call it a conversation, not an interview, and
• 39:18
  Speaker 10: just talk about life, you know, players, careers. You know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 10: We've had guys on a bunch of big names in
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: sports and college football, NFL. Jared Goff, Kenny Pickett, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: I mentioned, you know, a bunch of different media personalities
• 39:32
  Speaker 10: and stuff. Really just you know, a lot of times
• 39:34
  Speaker 10: I'm going to these guys and and and bringing a
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: video crew and where if it's a big enough guest,
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: you know, going to them and sitting down in their
• 39:40
  Speaker 10: living room and just talking about their story and life,
• 39:43
  Speaker 10: you know, which which I really enjoy. I think for
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: a lot of guys, you get so as an athlete,
• 39:47
  Speaker 10: you get brought up in this culture of like being
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: afraid of what you're saying in public, and being afraid
• 39:51
  Speaker 10: of the media and being afraid of, you know, making
• 39:54
  Speaker 10: sure you don't say anything wrong. What we try to
• 39:56
  Speaker 10: do is just take that down and make them, you know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: have them almost forget that they're on podcast and just
• 40:01
  Speaker 10: open up and talk. And then you know, I always
• 40:03
  Speaker 10: tell the guys, if you say anything you don't want
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: in there, we can always take it out, but let's
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: just be open and have some fun with the conversation.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: What about coaching for you spent two years at Arizona
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: State under HERM Edwards, right like why? And I think
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I saw that you were the youngest position coach at
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: a Power five school like one. Did you like coaching.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Two what was HERM like? And three would you go back?
• 40:24
  Speaker 10: Herb's the man? I mean, Herm is exactly what you
• 40:27
  Speaker 10: see on TV. Is you know the guy with the energy.
• 40:30
  Speaker 10: You know, you see the playoffs, the playoffs ran like,
• 40:34
  Speaker 10: that's her. Every day you walk in the office and
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: that's the energy.
• 40:37
  Speaker 7: I mean. He was a great, really a good.
• 40:41
  Speaker 10: He was coaching his coaches really well, and he taught
• 40:44
  Speaker 10: us a lot about leadership, how to treat people, how
• 40:47
  Speaker 10: to get people to believe in yourself, you know, how
• 40:49
  Speaker 10: to his big thing he always said that, you know,
• 40:52
  Speaker 10: if you're a coach and you got these players or
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: a leader of any kind, you have to give people hope.
• 40:56
  Speaker 10: That's what he always said and always reminded us of it.
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: I still have. You know, Herm wasn't a big Texter,
• 41:02
  Speaker 10: not a big email guy. So every day I would,
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: you know, three four days a week, I'd walk into
• 41:07
  Speaker 10: my office at Arizona State, and when I was a
• 41:09
  Speaker 10: ten ends coach, I'd have a I'd have a printed
• 41:12
  Speaker 10: out piece of paper with a message of the day
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: from her right.
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: He would get in.
• 41:16
  Speaker 10: There early at four am and I'd walk in and
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: on my desk was a piece of paper. I still
• 41:20
  Speaker 10: got tons of them with a quote, with a piece
• 41:23
  Speaker 10: of advice, words of wisdom, words of encouragement. He would
• 41:26
  Speaker 10: actually type it out and give it to the coaches,
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: which was really cool, you know, just it's a funny
• 41:31
  Speaker 10: thing though thinking of like you could just text me that,
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: right but but but it definitely brought, you know, a
• 41:36
  Speaker 10: different level of to it when when it's printed out.
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: But Herm's a man, and he was. He was really
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: fun to work with. You know, I loved coaching. It's
• 41:44
  Speaker 10: there's very few especially with being how young I was,
• 41:47
  Speaker 10: there's very few jobs or roles where you can have
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: as much of an impact on people as you can
• 41:53
  Speaker 10: as a coach. I mean you're you're literally changing people's
• 41:56
  Speaker 10: lives and you're building people up and changing.
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: Or giving young man opportunities.
• 42:01
  Speaker 10: The thing that's changed about coaching, and you're seeing a
• 42:03
  Speaker 10: lot of guys get out of coaching or trying to
• 42:05
  Speaker 10: get to the NFL is what we just talked about. Man,
• 42:08
  Speaker 10: I mean, you got as a college coach number one,
• 42:10
  Speaker 10: it's all about recruiting. It's it's maybe eighty percent talent
• 42:14
  Speaker 10: acquisition and twenty percent talent development. I mean it is
• 42:17
  Speaker 10: all about recruiting, and NIL has changed that completely. I mean,
• 42:21
  Speaker 10: you're you're you mentioned it, Bobby. You're recruiting your own
• 42:25
  Speaker 10: roster over and over and over again, and constantly. These
• 42:28
  Speaker 10: guys are getting hit up by their agent, by other
• 42:30
  Speaker 10: people saying, you can get if you go in the portal,
• 42:32
  Speaker 10: You'll make this amount of money. You can go here
• 42:34
  Speaker 10: for this an il deal. So it's it's a tough
• 42:36
  Speaker 10: time to be a college coach. I mean, there's a
• 42:38
  Speaker 10: lot of guys that don't want to do it. For me,
• 42:39
  Speaker 10: I I always had this passion for media and wanting
• 42:42
  Speaker 10: to get into it, so it felt like an easy transition,
• 42:45
  Speaker 10: especially when you know everyone at HERM left ASU and
• 42:48
  Speaker 10: you know, but it was it was a fun time, man.
• 42:51
  Speaker 10: I mean, I think we'll I ever get back into it.
• 42:52
  Speaker 10: I think I think, you know, it's definitely possible. It's
• 42:55
  Speaker 10: it's a it's a you know, like I said, there's
• 42:58
  Speaker 10: there's a few things you can make as much of
• 42:59
  Speaker 10: an impact. But I'm definitely enjoying what I'm doing now.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Final question for you, when it comes to the NFL Draft,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: you know, it's always been Bryce Young and then quickly
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: for a while it was c J. Stroud when the
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Panthers traded up to number one, even the odds flipped heavily.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: But now it's back to Bryce Young. Where do you
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: see this falling with Bryce c J.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Stroud?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Just the quarterbacks, and I'm assuming that that number three
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: pick is probably going to get traded out, so another
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: one of those quarterbacks and grabbed up by those teams. Like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: how do you see those, let's say, those top four
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks falling.
• 43:29
  Speaker 7: I've been back and forth on this for a while.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: I'll be honest.
• 43:31
  Speaker 10: My original I did a take on this like three
• 43:35
  Speaker 10: months ago. My original order was Will Levis going first overall,
• 43:40
  Speaker 10: which that's obviously not going to happen anymore. And then
• 43:43
  Speaker 10: I had I had Bryce Young, then Stroud, then Richardson.
• 43:46
  Speaker 10: I'm still super high on Will Levis. I think Will
• 43:48
  Speaker 10: Levis reminds a lot of GMS, and I think that
• 43:51
  Speaker 10: I think the media draft media doesn't isn't as high
• 43:54
  Speaker 10: on Levis as I as. I believe that the gms
• 43:57
  Speaker 10: in the in the NFL front offices are from people
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: I've talked to from just what I know about the
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: game in the league, Will Levis reminds every one of
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: Josh Allen. And if there's one quarterback in the league
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: that a lot of teams are trying to emulate or say,
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: we need to get this guy for our team, it's
• 44:12
  Speaker 10: Josh Allen or maybe you know Mahomes. He possibly hurts,
• 44:15
  Speaker 10: but you know, teams are trying to find the next
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: Josh Allen. And Will Levis word of mind, everyone physically, mentally,
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: emotionally of Josh Allen. So I think Levis, I still
• 44:28
  Speaker 10: think there's are chances a run on quarterbacks and you go,
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: you know, four in a row. But I think that
• 44:32
  Speaker 10: Bryce would be the first pick. I think that's kind
• 44:34
  Speaker 10: of seems to be the consensus now. It's gonna be Bryce, CJ.
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: Will and then Richardson is what I believe is going
• 44:41
  Speaker 10: to happen now. And I think that's that's mostly the consensus,
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: but you never know how these things could fall.
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: I think Richardson's turned some heads, but I don't think
• 44:49
  Speaker 10: he's quite ready. Stroud's shown to be just more polished,
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: and you know, CJ. Stroud's a guy.
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: I was just talking.
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: I just did a show on the quarterbacks a couple
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: of days ago, and you know, I I feel like
• 45:00
  Speaker 10: we're forgetting that C. J.
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: Stroud.
• 45:01
  Speaker 10: You know the kind of career he had, that he's
• 45:03
  Speaker 10: the most decorated pastor in Ohio state history. That he's
• 45:07
  Speaker 10: incredibly accurate, which is probably the most important trait in
• 45:10
  Speaker 10: the NFL. If I was a GM, I think right
• 45:12
  Speaker 10: now I would take Stroud first overall. Now, again, they
• 45:15
  Speaker 10: know a lot more than we do, but I believe
• 45:17
  Speaker 10: it's going to be Bryce young Man.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: You're awesome. I really appreciate you, Adam coming on. I
• 45:20
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• 45:23
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• 45:30
  Speaker 4: We really appreciate the time.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: This has been excellent for me and I think our
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: audience learned a whole lot. So thank you for being
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: so generous.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: Adam.
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: Appreciate man, appreciate having me all.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I see Buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, thanks to Adam for coming on and check out
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• 45:43
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• 45:44
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  Speaker 2: studio while we're doing our show? Usually just Kevin and I.
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  Speaker 9: It's like, I always going on here.
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: Don't work for us anymore, I know, but I had
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: to get something from my computer.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: You don't work here.
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: Hey.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: When you're talking about that that that pick though, I'm like, oh.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: God, I want to say something.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I want to say that you would not take the
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Warriors minus five and a half.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: No do the Warriors. I don't know what their deal is.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: On the road. They don't win. They're on They're at
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: home now.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: Okay, so it doesn't matter. It does seem like a
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: lot of these home teams are winning.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: But just mark this.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: He made an appearance and then the guy who if
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: he bets it, I'm like, thank god I didn't bet
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: that way. That's how I feel mostly, so you should
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: be feeling feel better. Well, since you heard, you want
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to hear about little announcement that I'm making.
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: Here, I do get comfy.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Hold on, they put my.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Head about him?
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Hey need whistle? No you you're not part of us
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: and you don't have your whistle. We should bring we
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: should bring him on as a guest. Sometimes you interview.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: What are you doing anyway?
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I'm getting videos off my computer?
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Got him. So we're gonna start a couple of digital
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: series video digital question is for you, Kevin, what do
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: you When do you play golf? What do you shoot?
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: What's your score?
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: Remember what read was talking about the other day. Yeah, yeah,
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: I would say I'm around there like one hundred. Yeah,
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: So here gound round one hundred, give or take.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: What we're gonna do is we're gonna we will be
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: doing a six part video series called Breaking ninety with
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Kevin what and so, And one of the sponsors of
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: it will be Cobra because they're gonna hook you up
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: with all the clubs. We actually have a we actually
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: have a fitting next Thursday.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Shut down.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: So it'll be Kevin trying to break ninety. But again,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get all the clubs. They're hooking you up.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: You're gonna go get what however, tall, muscular, skinny, whatever
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you are. It's a whole process. What but I told you,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: are you serious?
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I know?
• 48:57
  Speaker 9: I don't want to ask. So you know, it's been
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: a little a.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Few weeks and I just need time. I just need time.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: So next Thursday, it looks like from noon until two
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: we I think that's the frame that we're gonna go
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: to this place.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: We'll go together. I'm gonna do something with them as well.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: But so we were gonna do your series first called
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Breaking ninety, and it'll be a six part series of
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: you trying to literally break ninety.
• 49:20
  Speaker 11: I love it, did not know bones. If he doesn't
• 49:22
  Speaker 11: break ninety back, we're breaking ninety. Yeah, Edie, Eddie, We're
• 49:28
  Speaker 11: breaking ninety. Okay, we're gonna break eighty. We're getting all
• 49:30
  Speaker 11: the way down.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Cobra.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: They've been awesome for me, They've been great to me.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I actually love my clubs, and so they're gonna hook
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: you up with the clubs. They're gonna be one of
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: our main sponsors. Actually, there are only spots. We didn't
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: ask anybody. Oh I'm a Puma Cobra Gray myself.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't even We weren't even like, hey, give
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: us any money. I was just like, hey, we're gonna
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: do this.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Can you hooks up a clubs for Kevin? What they
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: were like, Yeah, no problem.
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: I love Cobra, love Poom, you do the best.
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah, if you're listening to this, go get some Cobra,
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: Puma everything.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Alright, Now that doesn't seem real, dude, it's gonna look
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: too hard. So Kevin's gonna do Breaking ninety and then
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do Breaking eighty eventually.
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: If not at the same time. We only have one
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: read that's the problem.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Do one video, guy, So uh, Eddie, just think if
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: you were here, Wow, wow.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Mine would be breaking seventy.
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: Okay, okay.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: So that's the announcement.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: So next Thursday, you got to free your afternoon because
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go get it all done.
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: Love it.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Thank you with the fitter from Cobra.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: All right, this is very exciting.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to Rob Parker, who's one of my
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: favorite sports radio guys. I listened to him on Fox
• 50:37
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• 50:40
  Speaker 2: It's podcast on the Colin Cowhard podcast Network. He's an
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: MLB analyst. He's a founder and editor of mlbbro dot com.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: He's a Hall of Fame voter. Follow him on Instagram
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Rob Parker FSR. Here he is Rob Parker. Hey, Rob,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: how's it going?
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: I'm good, Bobby?
• 50:56
  Speaker 7: How are you? Hey?
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you. A big fan as well. You and Chris.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: You guys kill it over there, so appreciate you coming on.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I got a lot of questions for Evan saving. I've
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: been waiting for this moment, especially talking about baseball, because
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I want to know because I have thoughts. I think
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: generally the pitch clock is warmly welcomed by fans. How
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: did you feel about it when they announced it versus
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: how it feels now?
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: Definitely wasn't a fan of it. I just thought it
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: was catering to non baseball fans, that people who don't
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: like the game, who want it to be over it
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: before it even starts. But I have to admit that
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: it has. I thought it would shave five or ten
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: minutes off the game, but twenty six to thirty minutes
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: is significant, and I think that it's it hasn't altered
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: the game to where I'm like, well, what is this?
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: This is like not baseball. It actually is still the
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: same game, just at a better pace.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: And I think two, if they had never told me
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: there was a pitch clock and I was just watching
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: the game, I don't know that I would know anything
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: was different. Just if I'm watching, it would just feel
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: like a game that was moving pretty good. I don't
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: know that I would be like something's fishy here. Do
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: you feel like you would know it if they didn't tell.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Us, Yeah, I agree. It just seems like the pace
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: is faster. I mean, I wasn't that happy when we
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: had early on back to back days where Mandy Machado
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: was kicked out for you know, for giving the umpire
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: lip and then the next day Tim Anderson. Now we're
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: throwing stars out of the game over the pitch clock.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: Then I'm not happy about it. That's not good for
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: the game. And I think the umpires should work with
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: these veteran players, you know, so that they can adjust
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: to it. Younger players have used it in the minor league,
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: so they're more used to it. I just don't want
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: to see stars thrown out of the game over the
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: pitch clock.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: When you talk about stars, I start thinking about, you know,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: kind of the Mount rushmore of the big stars right now,
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: and Otani is probably, I mean, in my mind, the
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: best player in the Major League right now. What's the
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: gap between him and number two? Or do you think
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: or do you even think he's number one?
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Well, he's a unicorn, so yeah, he's going to be
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: considered number one because of that. He's able to do
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: two things pitch at a high level and obviously slug
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: and hit at a high level. I mean, you know, ultimately,
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: you know, is he going to win the cy Young
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: and the MVP both? And I think we can really
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: look at it and say he's the greatest player who
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: ever played, period and end the debate or conversation. We're
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: not there yet, but I will push back on the
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: people think that Otani should be the MVP every year regardless.
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: I don't believe that. I think there has to be
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: a context to someone's season. Yes, he's doing something that's incredible,
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: but there was no doubt in my mind that Aaron
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: Judge was the American League MVP. He played in a
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: meaningful games all year long. The Angel season was over
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: in May, and I'm not saying that Oldtani's still, you know,
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: not facing competition or doing what he did, But there's
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: a big difference when you're twenty games out and playing
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: for the division in September. There's just a big difference
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: in how you approach your bats in the game and
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: you know the pressure level that's involved.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like he goes once he hits free agency?
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like he goes back to the Angels
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: like if you heard if he's happy not happy?
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: And do you feel like he could be the first
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: half billion dollar guy?
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: I think that half billion is the starting point. It
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: could be even more than that. And you got to
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: remember it's not just what he does for the team
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: and in the United States. I mean he's an international guy.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: In the WBC, when Japan played in the finals, one
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: hundred million people in Japan watched the game. Now, what
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: is that worth for Jersey sales? All kinds of other
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: things that are going to happen when people take vacations
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: wherever he's playing, he's on their itinerary. When I saw
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: it in New York when I worked at news Day
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: and Matt Sewet played for the Yankees. You know, you
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: saw all the Japanese signs on the stadium walls all
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: over Yankee Stadium, and you know when people came on
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: vacation in New York, going to Yankee Stadium was on
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: the itinerary, like going to the Empire State Building and
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff. So he generates so much money.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: I say, that's a minimum bid of five hundred million,
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: it might be six.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Hundred that's well go.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: And does it matter to a guy like Otani that
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: California is closer to Japan than say Milwaukee, or even
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: in New York because it's another four five hours flight.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Does that factor in it all?
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, he wanted to come to California from Jump Street,
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: but I don't know if that's changed. Maybe he says,
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: and the people talk to him, say, wearing the pinstripes
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: like Matt Suey wore, and you know all the great
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: baseball players, and your star would be even bigger in
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: New York or Los Angeles. You know, I think it's
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: going to be between the bigger markets New York, Los Angeles.
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: It could be the Mets could be the Yankees could
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: be the Dodgers, maybe Chicago, but I don't see it.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: I think those are really the three teams other than
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: the Angels that have the inside track.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Hall of Fame, as you were
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame voter, and Bonds, Maguire, Sosa, those
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: three guys specifically all because of pds. They're in that conversation,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: but they were the greatest in their day. Do you
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: feel like they should be in the Hall of Fame?
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. I voted for them every year on the ballot.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: I just I have a harder time. First of all,
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: none of those guys you mentioned ever were suspended for peds.
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying that they didn't use it. I'm not naive, Bobby, Okay,
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: I'm not naive. It was well used during that era
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: by a lot of players, some who got caught. Remember
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: there's a Mitchell report out there of one hundred and
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: fifty missing names, hidden names that we don't know. I
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: think some of those guys are in the Hall of Fame.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: And I can't sit here and say Pudge was under suspicion. Suspicion,
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: Jeff Bagwell was under suspicion, Mike Piazza was under suspicion
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: and they were all in the Hall of Fame. So
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: what are we doing here. Either everybody's out or you
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: put people in. Now, if you got busted by baseball
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: once they changed the rules, like a Manny Ramirez or
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: a Rafael Palmero, those guys got busted. Those guys, I
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: understand if a writer doesn't want to vote them in,
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: But the other guys, you can't tell me. Bond's won
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: three MVP before he even went to San Francisco and
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: started with experimenting with the juice. Same thing, Roger Clements.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: Go watch the video tape when he was in Boston
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: and won three side youngs and he was skinny as
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: a rail. Mark McGuire got screwed as well. Mark McGuire
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: hit forty nine home runs his rookie year. Go watch
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: the tape, Bobby, go look and see how big Hee was.
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: This guy was a home run hitter at USC when
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: he was in college. He didn't take the juice and
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: become a home run hitter overnight. So I think people
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: who think that it's just that and that's what made
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: these guys great are missing the boat. And the other
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: part is we seem to want to punish the hitters
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: more than anybody. But Bobby, do your research. More pictures
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: have been busted on juice than hitters, which tells you
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: that Bonds was probably facing a lot of guys on
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: juice when he did his thing.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: Pete Rose different but the same.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: What do you got, no way, no how, Pete Rose,
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: It's a different era. You can't go back back then.
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: Gambling note was prosada non grada. The biggest sign in
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: the clubhouse all over America was if you gambling, you're
• 58:43
  Speaker 5: going to be banned from the game. Pete lied about
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: it for fourteen years. I think if Pete would have
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: been honest from day one, asked for apologize, ask for forgiveness,
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: he would be in the Hall of Fame. But he
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: lied for fourteen years. They had all the goods on him.
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: And then when they you know, tried to you know,
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: get up back in their game, then he wrote a
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: book saying that he did it to try to make money.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: I think Pete Rose, he sabotazes his way back in
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: the hall. Baseball would love to have him in the
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: Baseball Hall of Fame. But Pete's his own worst enemy.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: So I don't see Pete getting it.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: What about after he dies?
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: He's no, I don't. He's already in the Hall of Fame.
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: Have you been to Cooperstown? Pete roses everywhere, He's all
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: over Cooperstown. But I don't I don't think he'll have
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: a play.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Let's switch it up to the NBA playoffs, the Lakers ceiling.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: What do you think it is?
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: Second round? I think they you know, I mean Game
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: one was a great start. When you get twenty nine
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: points from a bench player and you shoot fifty four
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: percent from the field and forty five percent from three
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: on a road playoff game, you're going to win that.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: And now John Moran, you know, has he heard? Is
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: he not going to play? Or how effective will he be?
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: So they have a chance there. But I just think
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: the other teams. I think everybody has discounted the Denver
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: Chicken Nuggets. Everybody thinks that they're no good and what
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: they did all year. I think people are now surprised
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: about the Sacramento Kings, and they've played well all year.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: And people thought that the Golden State Warriors, who were
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: terrible on the road, were just gonna flip a switch
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: and start winning like like there's nobody's business and that
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: hasn't happened. So obviously Phoenix lost Game one to the Clippers.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: They're formidable, and the Clippers have beaten the Lakers like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: eleven straight times and thirty five out of the last
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: forty some ridiculous number, because they match up well against
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: the Lakers. So if they were to meet, I would
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: take the Clippers. So I don't think they're going to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: get past the second round.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: You don't think Reeves and Hetchmeror are going to be
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: consistently awesome all playoffs?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: Uh no, I'm not finding that. They played unbelievable. You
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: know that.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: I listen.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: I bought him. I bought him. I'm gonna admit it.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: I bought him.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: I'm still buying him. I want to talk about Kevin
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: Durant though.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: If he wins another championship, where do you think that
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: or does it take him any higher in the all
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: time grades?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: I do if you can move, you know, move on
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: and win a championship. Remember the Suns went without Kevin Durant,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: they weren't able to win. He would be the mister
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: fixer upper, like when the Warriors choked down that three
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: to one lead to the Cavs on Lebron Kevin Durant
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: went there. They won two straight championships. You know, they
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: lost the next one where he was hurt and didn't play,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 5: So he got a lot of credit for that, and
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: he would get a lot of credit for this if
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: he was able to get there. I don't know if
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: they've had enough time together to gel and make it work.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: They might not have enough on the fence to beat
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: the Clippers. I like the Clippers a lot. I think
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: they're ten deep. I think ty lewis a fantastic coach.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: Living in la I've gotten to watch him more and more.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: I think he's tremendous.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Final question, just kind of about your home, the Lions.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: What Campbell's doing up there. Do you feel more bullish
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: than you ever have?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: No? You know what I need to see this year.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: One year is not enough we've seen in the NFL.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, everybody's celebrating in Detroit. They were nine and seven, right,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: nine and eight, and they did make the playoffs. So
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 5: let's see if you could take that to the next
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 5: year and actually improve and make the playoffs. If they
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: do that, then they have something going if they fall
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: back and it's back to the same old Lions football.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is a franchise that has one playoff
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: win since nineteen fifty seven, and that was nineteen ninety one.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: It's been a long time in coming. So they got
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: to put together more than a random one season where things,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: you know, were better than they normally are. We need
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: to see two or three of them and then I
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: believe they're on the right track.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, he has the site mlbbro dot com.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: He's a founder and editor. He's an MLB Network analyst.
• 1:02:59
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• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Inside the Rob Parker, But where I hear him is
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: the Odd Couple of Christmas.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Are you everywhere? You're right here.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, big fan, Rob, and hopefully we'll talk
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: to you soon.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: All right, Bobby, thank you so much. We'll talk again,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: see you, buddy.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Hey, thanks to Rob for coming on, and let's get
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: over to our final thoughts. First of all, the stories
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: the Grids beat the Lakers last night one oh three
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: ninety three.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: I was an idiot. I was like, there's no way
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: that the Laker's gonna run without jaw.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: You know, we talked about villains earlier.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a kind of a relationship I have
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: with people that annoy me in sports, and it goes
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: from they're annoying, shut out, nobody cares too.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: I don't think I like them too. I hate him. Two, Okay,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: that's funny.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: Two.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: You know what, I like him and I've done this.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dylan Brooks is that guy right now, hilarious,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: like just going app going at Lebron. He's like, I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: don't care, He's like he's old that. I mean, he
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: talks cap to everybody. And I'm starting to go positive.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks. I didn't.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: I didn't like him at all.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to be But I love Pat Bev, I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: love Draymond Green. Dylan Brooks good in there like he
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: just I guess I like.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: It because he's consistent with it.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 9: I agree.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: As long as you're consistent and you're not just a
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: fair weather trash talker when times are good, if you're
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: just gonna go and that's just you, I'm okay with that.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: I'm down.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: I love Dyaling.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks is good.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 9: It's entertaining for me h.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: So you know, him and Lebron went at it and
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I want to play this for you. This is Dylan
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Brooks and they were talking about the game afterward.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Here we go.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 7: I don't care. He's old, you know what I mean.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: That's I was waiting for that. I respect him to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: do that. Game four, Game five. He wanted to say
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: something when.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: I got my four file, and then he went on
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: to say he won't respect Lebron until he scores forty
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: against him.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: I pulled bears.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: I don't respect no one until they come and give
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: me forty.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: He's got the white glasses on, he got the dB
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: chain on, he got I mean, he's so it that
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I'm into it now.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: So I'm not rooting for the grid for the Lakers.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 7: Bye.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I kind of love that you got three games tonight,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Sixers and nets, Kings and Warriors. Sacramento's up two. Oh,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: but they are going back to Golden State, Uh Phoenix
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: and the Clippers and that is at one to one.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: All right, Final thoughts, Final thoughts of the show. We
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: had a good one though today, thanks to our guests
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: for stopping. Buy is a really good one.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 8: Kevin, Mine is a shout out and a good luck
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 8: actually to Mike d this weekend running that marathon and
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 8: everybody else out here in national running the marathon. I've
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: done half a couple of times and that is brutal.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 8: So Mike, good luck and kudos to you man.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 9: Thanks, I'm ready.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: It's like a Sunday at three pm and Mike's like,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: just did a run and you look at his he
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: doesn't talk about his uh They're call him breaks splits, yeah, splits.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: And it's like eighteen miles at eight point oh eight
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: a mon. I'm like, you know, an eight minute miles
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: for that long. It's crazy. The runner Mike is just
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: quietly too, but everything he does is quiet.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: But I did mean a guy.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: It's like, I'm running the marathon this weekend. I was like, okay,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: I've been trying so hard for it. But it was
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: actually the half marathon, and I feel like you have
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: to say the word half.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: If you're running the halfway, you gotta say half.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: It's a difference, absolutely yeah. And he kept talking about
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: how he's gonna run. He was, he was doing the marathon,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: and I think maybe by him going doing it, he
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: was doing the marathon.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: But I knew he was doing the half.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: You have to put that word half in there, even
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: if you try to get arounded by saying do in
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: the marathon, if you run the half, say the half.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: And that's a big deal. Most of it runs ten
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: miles of the time.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I've never done a half marathon, but otherwise I'm gonna
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: think you're run over twenty.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you have to say half.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: I want to say something to him about and I
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: ain't care that much, but yeah, might kill it, buddy.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: My final thought is for Reid, who's here and runs
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: our cameras. And I gave Read little crap because I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: saw I shot thirty over the other day. But Reid
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: also played high school golf and I've seen him play
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: pretty good before, and he shot thirty over. Eddie and
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I went to play the Vanderbilt course yesterday and I
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: shot like twenty over, and I was like, I deserve to.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Have crap talked about me like I did. Read played
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: pretty terrible.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: It is the first time I got to play a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: full round in months, because the last few times I've played,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: it's rained on us every time.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: Four in a row.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: We went four times in a row and it rained
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: us out every time. Really, Jordan Davis and I try
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: to go play. We played two holes and it rained
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: us out. We went for my birthday to chattanoogat we
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: played a few holes, at Rain had to get in
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: the truck, played a few holes, at Rain had to
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: get in the truck. I had to go center. So
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: it was the first time we had played. That's an excuse, absolutely,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: I just gonna let everybody know that's an excuse.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 7: I'm with it.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: But yeah, over twenty and we talked about golf earlier
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: with Kevin and Eddie, but over I shot twenty overreads,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: So okay, that's worse than bogie golf. And I don't
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: apologize for what I said to you, but I just
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: want you to know I also played terrible. So we're
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: in that same boat together. It's okay, It's okay, that's
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: my thought. All right, Thank you guys, We really appreciate it.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: We got Dane Brugo coming up on Monday, who's basically
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: built the biggest NFL Draft guide that the world's ever seen.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And we'll talk to the NFL Draft on Monday or
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Tuesday whenever we do the show next week, and then
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: the draft is next week as well, So thank you guys.
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