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UK Column News Podcast 10th May 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. Today is Friday, the tenth of May twenty twenty four,
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just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your host,
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Brian Gerrish, and I'm delighted to be joined by Debbie Evans today and Ben
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Rubin. I'll also add it's just wonderful here in Plymouth. I think there's
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a touch of summer coming into the air, so we're going to enjoy that
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well a little bit later anyway, Debbie, I'm going to be welcoming you.
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I'm just going to say to our audience, I'm very sorry you're not
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here in the studio. But of course we've got millions and millions of pounds
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for weapons in Ukraine. But apparently we can't run the trains from Cornwall.
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But you can tell me more about that in a minute. I thought we'd
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start off today with just an appalling piece of reporting from the BBC. It's
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very simple, let's have a look at it. This was the headline in
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Kiev can use British weapons inside Russia? Cameron can use But the moment you
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got into the article, it said this Lord Cameron did not directly endorse the
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idea of British weapons being used to strike targets inside Russia. As far as
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I'm concerned, this is deliberate manipulation of text. This is disinformation by the
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BBC, and the minimum is it's designed to confuse events in the public mind.
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So if any of our audience today feel as I do, it warrants
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I think a complaint to the BBC because a billion, multi billion pound organization,
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a state media outfit, should not be allowed to get away with such
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crass reporting. I'll leave that there. Debbie, welcome, you've come in
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on a link. It's a real shame that you can make it on the
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train to be in the studio. I'm really sorry. I was looking forward
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actually to a trip on the train, but I was told that because of
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the train strikes and the overtime bands, no trains were guaranteed, and that
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many platforms, even though it said the train was coming, it never showed
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up. So apologies, But sometime soon I'll be with you in the studio,
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I promise. But isn't hindsight a wonderful thing Because with the recent news
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obviously of AstraZeneca being withdrawn, we were all looked upon four years ago as
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conspiracy theorists and Sadly, sadly, we have been proven right. We weren't
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conspiracy theorists at all. And I wonder sometimes when we look back if some
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of the people responsible their words will come back to haunt them, because we're
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not going to forget, are we? We're never going to forget. And
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that's why I want to highlight two, but actually three women in particular.
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Now, the BBC reported that in the birthday honors in twenty twenty one,
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on the COVID vaccine heroes were recognized by the Queen. You can see there
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that you've got Kate Bingham in red, Dame Kate Bingham, and you've got
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Dame Sarah Gilbert in blue. I probably should have put Dame June Rain in
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there as well, because I just want to highlight that Dame Sarah Gilbert made
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astra Zeneca, Dame June Rain approved AstraZeneca, and Dame Kate Bingham was responsible
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for choosing it, procuring it and distributing it. So in my opinion,
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those three women were responsible for every single AstraZeneca injury and death in the United
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Kingdom, and certainly Kate Bingham and June Rain were responsible for the rollout of
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every single vaccine in the UK. So I want to start off with Dame
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Kate Bingham today, but I just want to let you know that Kate to
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Bingham. She has a master's in biochemistry from Oxford. She's also got a
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master's in business studies from Harvard and because of that she got an honorary honorary
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doctorate from Imperials. This is an honorary doctorate and she's been working closely with
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pharmaceutical companies now. Back in twenty twenty two, she gave a lecture along
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with Dame June Rain, actually at Somerville. It's called the Somerville Spring Meeting,
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fifth of March twenty twenty two, entitled From Wartime to Peacetime. She
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was followed on immediately after by Dame June Rain. So I want to show
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you a little bit of video. I'm beginning to wonder whether Dame Kate Bingham
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thought that she was in her front room talking to her friends, or whether
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she'd ever realized that we would come to see what she said two years ago.
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Let's have a listen, Kate Bingham. I ended up with an email
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on April Fool's Day inviting me to join this expert group and to which my
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reaction was, well, I'm not a vaccine expert, Patrick whyn't hearth you
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asking me? And the answer was what he wanted was somebody with that expertise
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and knowledge of the small company landscape, because that's actually where the innovation comes
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from, even if it's ultimately the pharmaceutical companies that deliver and distribute. So
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April Fool's Day, she got an email from Patrick Ballance wasn't really qualified in
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anything to do with vaccines. So if we go and look at uk dot
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gov and see the announcement of her appointment, you might note there it says
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that her job was to enable a task force to accelerate the development that's very
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important word, the development of a safe and effective vaccine. It goes on
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as she goes on to say, if you just skip to the next slide
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there, that she's worked in the biotech sector for a very long time.
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Sorry, could you just go back to back a slide that said so she's
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uniquely qualified for the role and worked in the biotech center in the biotech sector,
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but she's most recently managing partner for sv Health Investor. So her work
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has led to the launch of six drugs for the treatments of patients with inflammatory
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and autoimmune disease. So if you just skip to the next slide, we
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can see that Sir Patrick Valance said that it's vital that the UK continues to
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play its leading role in trialing potential vaccines and stands ready to get behind any
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viable vaccine candidate. This word trialing is extremely important. So let's look at
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a little bit more about Kate Bingham. So we can see that she is
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managing partner of SV Health Investment. That's a leading international life sciences venture capital
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firm, so she's a venture capitalist. We can also see that she's heading
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up the UK's Dementia Discovery Fund. We'll come onto that a little bit more,
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but that was set up by all the pharmaceutical companies, so no conflicts
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of interest there then, and the Department of Health. If you skip on
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just one more slide again, you can see that we have got her company
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SV Sorry I can't read it. Their health investors investing in tomorrow's health care
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breakthroughs. So let's see what they actually deal with. What do they deal
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with? Will they deal with therapeutics, dementia, healthcare growth and med tech
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so this is the company that she's involved in. If we go to see
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her on the board, we can make sure. Just verify, everybody,
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Please go back and check all of this out yourself. On the Dementia Discovery
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Fund, there she is Dame Kate Bingham. But who funds the Dementia Discovery
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Fund? I wonder. So I've just drawn a few arrows to show you
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a few, just a few of them, and you can see that we've
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got the Gates Foundation, well Bill Gates. We've got Astrazeneka, We've got
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PFISA, we've got the Department of Health, we've got Glaxo Smith Klein.
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I mean, you know, the conflicts of interests are enormous. But that's
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not all because she's also a board member of the Francis Crick Institute. So
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there you go, she's an honorary board member of the Francis Crick Institute.
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I want you to have another little look at her performance at the lecture at
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Somerville because we're coming up to another video, and well, how would you
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chair a government meeting? Do you think it's a serious business chairing a government
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meeting? And who do you think navigated or helped navigate her way through government
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to get her conditions met have a listen, and so during the third meeting
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I did. I got a text from Matt Hancock and I was actually trying
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to do two meetings at the same time because I had a clash with one
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of my portfolio companies. So I had two company two screens up, which
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is of course not how you're supposed to do meetings, but anyway I did,
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and he texted me and said can we speak? And I said,
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no, you're supposed to be joining this meeting anywhere, and it's a government
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vaccine meeting. So anyway, we spoke afterwards, and he said, would
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you chair the Vaccine Task Force? You know, we're going to create a
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dedicated body to which I've sort of virtually fell off the check souse. I
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hadn't thought on earthwine was he calling me? And I asked for twenty four
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hours to think about it, because I gave him all the reasons why I
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couldn't do it, and then eventually said to me, Kate, look,
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none of us have done this before. We're asking you to step up.
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And that was a little hard not to take that seriously. And when I
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questioned him on what authority was he inviting me? He said he had just
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come back from the Prime Minister, so I asked for twenty four hours.
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I am very lucky to be married to the most amazing husband, Jesse Norman,
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who then was a Financial Secretary of the Treasury. So obviously he actually
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spent a billion pounds doing furlough and all the self employed funding, but he
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absolutely helped sort of helped me navigate through government and Whitehall and Parliament and everything.
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And so the following day we went back with Jesse's clear advice, with
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a list of conditions, saying I would do it, but only subject to
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these terms. So the terms were it was reporting to the Prime Minister,
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it was a six month term. I could recruit who I wanted and their
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government would put in place a very streamline decision making process. And then,
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because I was convinced that government always leaks everything, my final condition was that
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I got to sign off on all comms. But it didn't really make any
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difference that one, but all the other ones did make a difference. Woman
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that gets her own way. He set down the conditions navigated by her husband,
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who was in charge of a billion pounds furlough. Very nice don't you
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think not. So let's look at her husband, Jesse Norman, because he
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was indeed a minister, an MP and minister, but he resigned from the
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government last November to focus on local issues. But according to wiki he is
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also a member of the Privy Council, so he has got high roles.
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And of course they've got the confirmation that he is married to Kate Bingham.
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So let's find out a little bit more about Kate Bingham because a little article
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from Valtz gave a little bit more of an insight into who she was.
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The article was actually entitled former UK Vaccine's chief says yes to Russian jab if
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data is good. Well, to be honest with you, she'd say yes
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to any job if she could get it in the arms of the British.
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But if you look at the there's an interesting article actually, but there's loads
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of questions. This is the first one. Are the Brits more happy to
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take a risk? Well, actually yes, because they're willing to pay upfront
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when they've got appssolutely no clue whether anything's going to be safe, or whether
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it's going to be work, whether it's going to work. When asked about
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the speed of authorization. She was very quick to praise the MHRA, and
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let's not forget she was followed on in the lecture by June Rain. One
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of the other questions she was asked about was indemnity, and she revealed then
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that actually it wasn't a choice and that the vaccine companies had the government by
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the throat and they basically said, if you don't give us indemnity, we
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won't give you the vaccine. So the government are reported to have felt very
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uncomfortable. So we'll end on one short video. But what I can say
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is we're going to be showing. If you think the videos that we've shown
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just now are shocking, we have far more to show you in extra particularly
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hairy scary. That's a clue, But let's just finish on this one video
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from Cape Bingham in her performance at Somerville. I knew that if anyone,
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any one of these vaccines worked, we will have picked the best ones in
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that because we had a real kick ass team that did the work properly.
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But I didn't know if anyone was work. I mean, the biggest,
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much bigger concern was might they all fail? And one of the things I'd
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persuaded the government to do, which they again were really ballsy to do.
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Was they were willing to put money upfront before we knew whether or not any
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of these vaccines would work. Because if we waited to figure out whether or
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not the vaccines were both safe and effective before we started scaling up and manufacturing,
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it would be another year before we got the vaccines. So we had
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to start investing in manufacturing, scale up as soon as we decided we were
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going to prioritize those vaccines and support the clinical development. But if those vaccines
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failed, all that money would be wasted. So we ended up spending a
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nine hundred million sterling in upfront spending, all of which could have been lost
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in order to buy what was whatever this is, three hundred and fifty seven
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million doses Swift. They'd have waited for health for safety and efficacy data,
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they would have waited another year, so they didn't bother arrest my case,
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Debbie, thank you very much. So much I could say about that,
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but of course what she said to camera was that she wasn't qualified and the
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team was put together in a rush, And then later she describes it as
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a quote kick ass team which did a good job, but it wasn't qualified
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to do a good job. She wasn't qualified to do a good job.
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And now we've got people who are damaged as a result of these vaccines.
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It's truly astonishing. Ben. I'd better bring you in on screen because I
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could talk about that one for quite a lot longer. You're on the subject
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of Ernst and Young consultants at working in the background. So should we trust
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these people? Well, it's all the same people, That's the thing,
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right, because we're talking about a different organization, different part of the British
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state. But ultimately this is corporate state capture is what we're looking at to
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the government into a marketplace. It really begs the question what is the state
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for, what is it doing, Who is it there to serve, and
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who is it there to benefit? Because it's not the British people. It
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cannot be. Based on what we've just seen and what I'm going to talk
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about now, So let me introduce you to Josie Kluer. She is a
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partner at e Y, formerly known as Ernst and Young, the global consulting
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firm, and she is at the epicenter of the public private marketplace that has
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been built up on top of the UK Government and the UK Civil Service.
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She's been EY for eight years. She has two roles. She leads the
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people consulting business across government and infrastructure, which has traveled under her leadership.
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We could bring the slide on screen. We can just see this quote there.
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So she leads the people consulting business, which is all about the transformation
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of people. And secondly, she leads our work ewy's work around the reskilling
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revolution, helping organizations build the skills they need both now and in the future,
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including by our managed learning service. And our flagship client is the UK
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Government, where she leads work providing for spoke learning and coaching across five one
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hundred thousand civil servants. EY are actively engaged right now in retraining reskilling transforming
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five hundred thousand civil servants, the permanent workers of the British government as is
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a huge business for EY. They've been in it for years. In fact,
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we know that they're currently turning over in the region of two hundred million
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pounds a year in fees from the British State. We could bring this next
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slide up on screen. Please. This was Cret Watkins who's now currently the
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chief executive of Varian, which is the global proper and Behavior change consultancy.
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I've spoken about them quite a bit recently. We just click on one,
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we can see that before he was the CEO there, he spent three and
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a half years as the UK Business Development Leads Government and Public Sector at EY.
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EYGPS market was one hundred and sixty five million a year at that point,
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that was pre twenty nineteen, and obviously since COVID those numbers have gone
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up sigifically. And I know that Ey've been targeting. Government is a growth
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sector, so we're probably looking at a couple hundred million we'd going to this
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organization to retrain the civil service, amongst other things. Now let's go back
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to missus Klure. She passed some commentaries you would expect on what's going on
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in the civil service, specifically the people plan, some fairly uncontroversial statements,
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but the one thing she highlighted at the end was that she expected the report
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to say more about how the Civil Service plans to use AI to deliver government
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services and therefore how people need to be trained to make the most of AI.
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Similarly, it's said nothing about the need for civil servants to regulate AI
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and how they'd be prepared to do so. I don't think the civil service
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should be regulating anything, but apparently she does. And there is no mention
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of how AI and jen AI can be used in all elements of the people
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function to make processes quicker, better, cheaper. So a lot of this
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is about cost reduction and also fairer it to be just and is essentially part
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of reordering society and moving us towards the world where we are ultimately governed by
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algorithms and EI all over this, as we can see from this recent piece
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of communication from them about building their own AI capabilities. This is the face
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of ey dot ai, a unifying platform connecting eys, diverse people, ecosystems,
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and reading technology capabilities. The phase of confidence, seeing opportunity and risk
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from every part of your enterprise and sector. The face of multiple disciplines of
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helping to create exponential value was ensuring positive human impact. The face of collaboration
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of a best in class ecosystem brought together on EY fabric. The face of
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the future of people augmented and empowered by AI. This is the face of
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ey dot ai helping to build a better working world, find out how you
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can have confidence on the opportunities AI brains. You can say, we're not
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even dating with paper anymore. You're dealing with humans controlled by an algorithm.
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Essentially, the institution, the technology, the end is what you're interacting with.
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It's not even a person. And this is what's being embedded into the
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heart of the UK Civil Service. Really reminds me of this from a little
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Britain and computer says, no, that's where we're heading to the state.
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If the algorithm hasn't allowed for it, then you just don't exist, you
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don't have to deal with you. And it's not just a civil service,
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it's the rest of government as well. The ministers have been piling in.
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So this is Gillian Keegan, current Secretary of State for Education. She was
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down at Ey last week gushing about the AI revolution and how it's going to
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completely reshape the way that we educate our children. She was talking about personalized
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AI assistance for teachers to create lesson plans in quizes, which is what I
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thought the teachers did. But anyway, they're also running a hackathon with another
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big consulting firm and the National Institute for Learning to think about how they can
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deploy this across the education system, and she's adamant that we will only become
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a global leader in AI. This is obviously a desirable thing through strong collaboration
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between government, education and business. Right, So this is a public private
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marketplace. Completely by coincidence, this is aligned perfectly to the World Economic Forum
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communication grids. So this came out at exactly the same time last week from
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sadi A's RDS the ND at World Economic Forum talking about new tech technology transforming
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our classrooms and how can we support education system to manage both new opportunities and
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the risks. Note the language repeated from the AI video and this statement.
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They're talking exactly the same language, which is really unsurprising given that EY is
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a World Economic Forum strategic partner. So they are one of the top organizations
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internationally, one of the top one hundred organizations working with the World Economic Forum
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to define an execute strategy. They sit right at the heart of public private
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integration. So Julie Tigland, who's the European head of Ernst and Young,
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was talking about convening the UK public and private sector through twenty twenty three across
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all industry sectors all political parties. You can see a bunch of big names
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listed there. So they're heavily involved in the transformation of the state. But
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what else are they doing. So let's look at the prominence of these people,
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where they're coming from ideologically and how this is traming the way that our
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society runs. Well, we know that Carmine Decibio, who's the current CEO
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of e Y, is a member of the steering Group of the Council and
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Inclusive Capitalism, which is Linda Rothschild's philanthropic endeavor. Miss Rothschild. Here you
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can see in front of you she's this is her gesture towards empathy and kindness,
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in unity and justice being disseminated. EWI are also very heavily represented at
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Goal's House at Davos, and they elsewhere. Here is Carmine and the incoming
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CEO, Janettor and Carli with Samantha Power from the USAID who's married to Cash
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Sunstein, the author of conspiracy theories and other dangerous ideas democracy and the problems
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of free speech. Again, all of this being mainlined right into the UK
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government. And they're not just working with Goals House. Steve Barley, who's
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the former why a managing partner for the UK is actually on the goals house
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board, So essentially the organizations have affused with each other in some way.
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And his successor in the YU sustainability role is this guy Rob the Pell who
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we spoke about last week was talking about the critical role the CFOs have to
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play in sustainability and controlling the way that organizations operate, which makes ey crucial
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to teror Carter And actually they received the terror carta seal, so this is
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the King Charles's sustainability It's sustainability initiative. They're also heavily linked into Common Purpose
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and in fact, the person who was probably Josie Kleuer's boss is a Common
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Purpose graduate. Brian and I have spoken about that previously. Should go check
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out that interview to get a bit more background to them. And let's also
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not forget that they're making an absolute bucketload of cash out of this as well,
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so I don't feel too sorry for these people. E Y. They
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did have to cut their partner payouts by forty thousand this year because these had
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dropped, probably because the COVID fees had dried up, but they were still
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paying each other seven hundred and sixty one thousand pounds a year from doing this
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work, not least for UK government. Ben thank you very much, very
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interesting segment. So retraining and also reframing five hundred thousand civil servants and at
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the same time Ernst and Young embedded in the political system itself. This is
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a very very dangerous precedence. What is the elected government? What is global
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big business? It's getting increasingly difficult to tell, but reframing is what I
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suspect. The biggest agenda of those servants is, well, let's move on.
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Do you want to give us just a quick summary of what you've been talking
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about? Indeed, I will, Brian Well, I was asked for my
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opinion on the National Autistic Society, So you've got it, warts and all,
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everybody. What's flirt? Where we might be able to talk briefly about
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flirting extra and quantum teleportation? Is it real? Yes, it probably is.
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And I'm very concerned about the disability benefits Overhaull so I've gone into quite
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a bit of depth about that. And yes, we really do have an
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Internet of animals. Okay, thank you very much for that. Now I'd
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just like to get people a reminder that too. I was really pleased to
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be able to do these interviews. The first one with J. Michael Waller
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discussing his book Big Intel about the CIA and the FBI, and what he's
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really talking about is subversion of the American Intelligence Agency. So if you haven't
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watched that interview, please get onto UK column and have a look. And
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the second one is with Michael Nell's mdphd. The Indoctrinated Brain is the title.
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Another book, really fascinating piece of work and of course I learned so
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much from this man about what is being done to interfere with normal thought processes.
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Now, Mike Robinson should be on the road at the moment, heading
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to somewhere along the south coast near Worthing, and that's for the Staining Center
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where the Western Empire and the Great Reset Lecture will be taking place at ten
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you can get there to support them and Mike Robinson. Now I'm going to
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move on to the subject of oh sorry, we've also got an Alternative View
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fourteen many apologies Alternative View team. Just to remind people that's taking place on
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their marketing, so please do that, okay. I'd like to move on
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to the subject of lower mission zones. And there have been a few people
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contacted me to say, well, the UK column hasn't been covering what's happening
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on the ground. Absolutely true. We have missed some of the events that
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have taken place where people have been challenging the Euliz system with Sadiq Khan,
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but we're going to try and make up for that today and also to take
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off the lid, sorry to take the lid off the scale of the sheer
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thing. So this was a report of course, praising Sadik Khan for his
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third term as London mayor. But in the background, the Uletz protests have
28:36
been going on and in some ways of getting worse. I have been sent
28:41
some pictures. This was for a while ago in April, but police on
28:45
the streets in thrail Road, Tooting and London area suburbs of London, and
28:52
of course the police particularly tough on anybody challenging the system. Let's have a
28:56
little look at this protest clip. Oh sorry, there's clip here which is
29:02
actually Sadik Khan himself simply dismissing anybody who's protesting as being some right wing extremists
29:11
and some look at this clip. What I find unacceptable though, is some
29:18
of those who've got legitimate objections joining hands with some of those outside who are
29:23
part of a far right group who are let's call let's call a spade a
29:34
spade. Some of those outside are part of the far right, some are
29:41
some are COVID deniers, some are vaccine deniers, and some are Tories.
29:49
Experts around the world have never seen a policy so transformative. If it's good
29:55
enough for those in central London, why isn't it good enough for those in
29:57
outer London? All right? You know, cleaner is a human right,
30:04
not a privilege. So anybody who dares challenged and the system is going to
30:11
be put down by mister Kahn. But disingenuous, absolutely, and we'll be
30:17
having a look at him in a little bit more detail in a couple of
30:19
minutes. But just a little bit more on the protest themselves. U les
30:23
bus has been in operation and this is very interesting to see. I'd like
30:30
to learn more about this. I think we have a gentleman coming on screen
30:34
with a banner in a minute, no ules, no pay per mile.
30:38
So it's very clear that people are upset with what's happening, and maybe the
30:44
scale of the protests has increased. Let's have a look at this little video
30:48
report here we are border with a you liss sign. Everyone. I'm sure
30:52
you could see all the filthy air around here that we need this, you
30:56
lis for. But I would have reason I filth because we're out in the
31:00
middle of the countryside with trees and lakes. And yeah, the Uless has
31:06
fallen over again. Folks, look at that straight through the wire, the
31:10
lights throughout it. They've already been out, put a little sign on it,
31:14
a little cone. But yeah, here at the river, folks,
31:15
Here at the river, ures is dead, all painted ups, looking a
31:21
bit I think the painters have gone a bit mental. I don't know if
31:23
they're missing the US I know they've got the us to all painted up and
31:27
squirted up, but someone's come and chopped it down. This isn't good enough.
31:32
We don't want them painted, we want them off ast streets. Well,
31:37
what's sad end to that camera? Now? Sadika Calm would have us
31:41
believe that he's implementing this policy for the benefit of London and people in the
31:45
outer London suburbs. But there's a lot more to it. And I want
31:49
to say here that if people search for information on the UK Column website,
31:53
you will find a huge amount about global cities, which is where the real
31:59
policy is coming from. On thirteen pages, on a simple search of global
32:02
cities, and if we go for a UK Column search on Sadiq Khan himself,
32:07
we're going to come up with a couple of full pages of information.
32:12
And of course where there's a reference to the UK Column News, there's a
32:15
lot of detail in the show notes themselves. So I'm just going to say
32:21
very gently for some of our viewers and listeners that if you're saying we're not
32:24
reporting on certain issues, very often we are and we have been for some
32:30
time. But of course you have to look for the information on the UK
32:34
Column website and I think most people will be very surprised that the sheer amount
32:38
of information if you carry out the search. Now, let's get back onto
32:43
the subject, which is Sadiq Khan, and of course a key company or
32:47
a key organization we have to look at in relation to him is see forty
32:52
cities and if you have a look at the on screen text here is talking
32:57
about his work in support of this, particularly for cities in the global South.
33:02
Nothing to do with people in UK or London or the outer suburbs.
33:07
It's the global South. He's working with the budget, he's working with air
33:12
quality, he's working with inclusive climate change action. But when you look at
33:19
the Sea forty Cities site, it starts to get interesting with who else is
33:23
involved. So we've got a Hedge Fund, Children's Investment Fund Foundation. We've
33:30
also got Bloomberg Philanthropies. We'll have a little look at those. But look
33:35
at the sheer number of people involved with Sadiq Khan in Sea forty. In
33:40
the Sea forty Cities program. Major funders the UK government, the Ministry of
33:46
Foreign Affairs in Denmark are k IKEA, Hewlett Foundation, Global Environment, Laureol
33:53
Open Society, George Soros, Amazon Pledge, A, Zurich Insurance, the
34:00
Scottish Government. On it goes including Google. So when people are looking at
34:06
Sadiq Khan and saying he's the man causing the problem, no not really,
34:10
He's simply the puppet who's following the agenda from these much bigger, tougher organizations.
34:17
Up is in there which might catch Ben's attention, the London School of
34:22
Hygiene and the World Bank. So this is very powerful. Now if we
34:28
look at the first link through this was the one the Children's Investment Fund Foundation,
34:34
and you can go You should go to the website. Hubble look slightly
34:37
spooky because you quickly find that the people identify themselves as children. What do
34:44
I mean. Let's have a look at the slide. Kate Hampton is the
34:47
chief executive. Let's make her grow up so we can see who we're dealing
34:52
with. I found this rather distasteful that they've used their images of children,
35:00
but this is the way it is. And if we look at this lady
35:02
herself, well, she's very interesting because she's done so many roles. She's
35:08
worked as CEO of the Children's Investment Fund, she's been involved with climate change,
35:14
she's worked for the China Council on International Cooperation in Environment and Development.
35:20
And if we move our arrow, we can also see here that she was
35:24
named as a World Economic Forum Young Global Leader. So Sadiq Khan is a
35:30
very small player in a very big pond which is driving him. And just
35:35
to give you some idea of the number of people involved in this Investment Foundation
35:38
itself, let's scroll through the children to see how many we're really dealing with.
35:46
Now, remember these aren't children, they're executives working in this organization.
35:52
But my point is this is not a few people. This is a very
35:54
large, powerful organization which is absolutely demonstrate rating it has the power to move
36:02
and shake the Mayor of London, and we'll move on from there if we
36:07
can. And if we have a look here at the c forty Cities Board
36:13
of Directors, we can see that we've got Michael Bloomberg himself. And if
36:17
we just moved down to the gentleman underneath, we've got Bruce Lindsey, who's
36:22
who's the chair of the board for the Clinton Foundation. So this very much
36:28
fits with where Ben has been talking to you. It's difficult to tell where
36:31
government ends and big business begins, but what we can be sure of is
36:37
the very powerful players are controlling the strings of Sadiq Khan, his Bloomberg philanthropiece.
36:45
Now, of course, on their website they say they're doing wonderful things
36:49
for the world. They've given away seventeen point four billion dollars. However,
36:54
I would like to ask where has that money come from in the first place,
36:59
and second lead what strings are attached to the money when it's given away,
37:02
Because overwhelmingly this is about transformational change in particularly poorer countries and amongst the
37:10
black community, So lots of questions to be asked. If we go back
37:15
to the Investment Children's investment fund itself under the trustees. We see an interesting
37:22
name, mazraor Sidiki, and we've also next to him got Ben Goldsmith,
37:29
who I think many people would describe as a big mover and shaker. But
37:34
let's actually have a look at Sadiki himself. And you don't have to go
37:38
far to find the headline. Here's the Telegraph and it says that he's the
37:43
close confident of Richard of Rishi Sunak, who shuns the limelight. And it
37:49
points out that he's a former Goldman Sachs banking colleague of Rishi. But the
37:54
key thing is in the Telegraph article they point out that another hedge fund,
38:00
and they are Capital started by mister Sidiki, shorted or helped to short the
38:06
government contracted Karillion before it imploded and went out of business in twenty eighteen under
38:12
a mere seven billion pounds worth of debt. So I'm going to say to
38:16
our audience today, if you're worried about those ules cameras, the cameras are
38:22
one thing, but you've really got to understand what Sadik Khan is doing and
38:28
who is pulling him his strings to make him do what he's doing. And
38:32
It's not only the cameras that have got to be brought down. It's these
38:37
semi secretive global structures which are supporting mister Khan. These have also got to
38:44
be exposed and brought down. Ben I wish I had more time to talk
38:49
through this sort of stuff, because there are so many little alleys and tunnels
38:54
that you need to get down. Everything about government is becoming increasingly opaque,
39:00
and we're not really sure who is governing us and what the agenda is.
39:07
That is certainly the case, Brian. I can see here and talk about
39:09
this with you all afternoon. I'm particularly interested in the young global leaders.
39:15
We've known about how they've penetrated the cabinets to quote clause swab, but I'm
39:22
now thinking and seeing a lot more of them in other places, and we're
39:27
going to have to dig into that more over the coming weeks. Anyway,
39:30
we're off to a party. We're going to the Predator's Ball with Lord Bethel
39:35
of Romford. There he is Jim Bethel in all his glory. Remember him.
39:38
He's a member of the House of Lords. He's responsible for health policy
39:44
and if we just click on we can see here there he is, Remember
39:46
of the House of Lords. One more click and we'll get a little bit
39:49
of a briefing on him. He's responsible for health policy and he in fact
39:54
oversaw the COVID contracts and had personal ministerial responsibility for the development of the new
40:00
vaccine. So he's had a terrible week and has decided to skip the country,
40:05
as we'll come on to in a moment, but he's still out there.
40:07
He's still issuing policy statements, so as well as being a member of
40:10
the House of the Laws, he's also putting out things like this Health is
40:13
Wealth, which I talked about earlier in the year, which is a joint
40:16
piece of thinking with, amongst others, David Halpern from the Behavioral Insights Team,
40:21
And one of the things that he talks in here about is the potential
40:23
of big data, database segmentation, diagnostic tools and genomics to identify targeting intervene
40:30
earlier as we transition towards preventative healthcare. That's his big thing. And he's
40:35
not just shaping the market as a political figure. He's also, as is
40:38
often the case these days, participating in the market as a private sector individual
40:44
as well. He does both at the same time. Is an incredible he's
40:46
a senior advisor at the Milking Institute. They had a big strategy day a
40:52
couple of weeks ago to talk about preventative healthcare, and the Milking Institute relates
40:55
to this fellow, Michael Milken, who were known through the seventies in the
41:02
eighties as the junk bond King. We click on one because of his role
41:10
building the jump bond market, essentially as a corporate Ponzi scheme. One of
41:15
the most corrupt financial players of the seventies in the eighties, ended up going
41:17
to prison for a few years. And now he's ananthropist and we should all
41:22
listen to what he has to say about the future of humanity. So they
41:25
had a big event. It's the twenty seventh year of the Milken Institute Global
41:30
Conference, breathlessly covered all week by Politico, who now have a newsletter called
41:35
the Global Playbook, by the Way, which you should go and sign up
41:38
to. And he does exactly what it says on the tip if you want
41:43
to know what the globalists are up to, go and read the Global Playbook
41:45
from Politico. An incredible lineup of speakers at the Milking Institute event. I
41:51
mean I'm really just scratching the surface. Bill Clinton have the MLA, Elon
41:54
musk Usher, David Beckham was there, a whole bunch of different top level
42:00
business and political figures and celebrities. The David Rubinstein from the Carlisle Group,
42:07
one of the main beneficiaries and the war in Iraq, he was there as
42:09
well. And obviously that is exactly the type of crowd that our friend Jim
42:16
Bethel likes to hang around with. So onto a plane like a rat up
42:21
for drake off he goes, He's taken a photo here in the back of
42:24
the plane. I'm going to wager that he didn't actually fly in that section.
42:29
He had a much nicer section, probably lying down and all of that.
42:31
But anyway, this is for the hoy Floyd to look at. He
42:35
did his big speech can you live to one hundred there years? Oh?
42:39
I should have taken a better picture. I'm sorry, Jim, but yeah,
42:43
he was up there talking about the future of global health, preventative healthcare,
42:47
genomics. And despite the fact that he has personally caused more damage to
42:54
the British population's health than probably almost anyone who's ever lived in the whole of
42:59
history, Anyway, he wasn't the only muppet there. I'm going to talk
43:02
through a few of the other people in attendance just give you a sense of
43:06
what was going on. So there were other muppets. Jim Bethel wasn't the
43:09
only one. We had Sesame Street, the Sesame Workshop there promoting climate,
43:15
resilience and health and the places where those things intersect also came across, which
43:22
was just wonderful. This really tells you everything you need to know about the
43:25
current state and affairs. You've got someone from Amazon and Nancy Dalton talking about
43:31
building a world where convenience equity can be a reality for all. I suppose
43:37
that means there aren't enough people who can get next day delivery on Amazon.
43:40
So if we expand it so that everyone can, and that on me are
43:44
more just and more fair world. Anyway, back into healthcare, let's have
43:49
a little listen to Mandy Cohen from the CDC. We've made a lot of
43:53
strides, but we have more work to do, and I want to make
43:57
sure that folks who are thinking about how do we keep our economy strong,
44:02
how do we keep our workforce healthy, that they think about CDC and public
44:08
health at large and because if we don't invest foundationally in our health security,
44:15
everything else can get shaky. On top of that health security. I get
44:22
really nervous when people put those two words together, just like the Health Security
44:25
Agency, UK Health Security Agency. So she's the current head of the CDC.
44:30
Ben's going to hang out with her despite everything that we now know about
44:34
what's been going on with the CDC and the COVID vaccination program. Also,
44:38
we have here Mina Sishimani from Medicaid. It is incumbent on all of us
44:45
that we get the word out to all of our communities about the importance of
44:52
prevention, about the importance of all of the changes happening. That we do
44:57
want to care for you as a person, and here are things that you
45:00
should ask your doctor, ask your nurse so that we can make sure that
45:07
the changes that we make in a two thousand page payment regulation that sits in
45:10
the Federal Register actually comes to life for people on the ground. You want
45:19
to care for you. Sorry, Brian, Ben, I'm watching the clock
45:22
carefully, but I must come back on this. She says, get in
45:25
touch, do talk to us, Talk to your doctor. But when we
45:28
say to the doctors, well tell us about the safety of vaccinations. We're
45:32
all told to shut up and run away and be quiet. So these people
45:37
are duplicitous. They are truly disgraceful. Sorry about that. Don't be sorry,
45:45
Brian, It's not your fault. They are absolutely hideous, aren't they
45:51
right? And this is where Bethel, who's still working around the health system
45:54
in the UK, has gone to get his ideas, share his ideas.
45:59
This is where he feels comfortable. One more video Kathi Hotel. This is
46:01
just an absolute clanger. But it's just when people actually say what they think
46:06
out loud. It's amazing young black kids growing up in the Bronx who don't
46:12
even know what the word a computer is. They don't know, they don't
46:15
know these things. And I want the world open up to all of them,
46:19
because when you have their diverse voices innovating solutions through technology, then you're
46:25
really dressing society's broader challenges. Those stupid black people who don't know what a
46:32
computer is. I mean, really, what's going on? And then finally
46:37
Ann mckleboy was there. She's an Evening Standard journalist. She was interviewing Kevin
46:40
McCarthy and we were talking earlier in the week about not letting journalists or anyone
46:45
forget what they did over the past few years. And mckelboy this has been
46:49
on my hard drive for about two or three years now, and this is
46:51
coming straight back at you. The unvaccinated have become a lethal liability that we
46:54
can ill afford. I don't think that you're going to You're going to regret
46:59
saying that anyway. Over to you, Brian, Well over to me.
47:05
But I'm going to stay quiet because otherwise I'm going to chew up more time.
47:07
We'll discuss more of this in UK column extra. Debbie, let's bring
47:12
you back on the subjects of children. I noticing Ben's segment. It was
47:16
mentioning sesame there and they were supposedly saying they've got the best interests of children
47:22
at heart. I don't think that's the case, Debbie. Tell us what
47:24
you've got and I've taken a body of your time. You take as much
47:29
time as you need in this segment. Thank you children. I don't really
47:36
know where to start on this segment except I'm horrified and as all of our
47:40
regular viewers and listeners will know, no one has been as quick out of
47:45
the gate when it comes to child abuse, secret family court, child protection,
47:51
child trafficking than UK column. And again I would re echo what Brian
47:55
said in his segment. Please go to the search bar because it's the amount
48:01
of material on the website is huge. Now we've focused a lot during lock
48:06
up on what was going on in elderly care homes, but actually what was
48:09
going on in children's care homes and in children's social care. So I just
48:15
want to start off with ofsted's report of the main findings of children's social care
48:20
in England, just to get put a bit of perspective. So, out
48:22
of twelve million children in England, four hundred thousand are within the social care
48:27
system. As of the thirty first of March twenty three, eighty two thousand
48:30
children were in care. As of thirty first of March twenty three, there
48:36
were three thousand, eight hundred and twelve active or suspended social care providers in
48:42
England. To just let that sink in. Now, the UK Parliament has
48:46
been very busy investigating children's social care and they've been asking are the reforms going
48:54
far enough and fast enough? Now, only last week there was Children's Education
49:01
Committee in the House of Commons. This is one of the Select committees that
49:06
I really would advise everybody please go to Parliament Life and watch these because they
49:10
really are very very eye opening. And in this one in particular, I'm
49:15
going to show you a couple of clips. The first one is Anna.
49:20
Anna Firth is the MP for South End, I believe, and I want
49:27
to ask you what do you do with vinegar? Do you pour it on
49:30
your chips? Do you clean your windows with it? Have a listen to
49:35
the question from Anna Firth to the head of Ofsted, Yvette Stanley. I'll
49:43
bring it alla, Thank you Chair. I want to now talk specifically about
49:46
the Hesley Children's Homes and we all know that in twenty twenty two the Child
49:54
Safeguarding Practice Review Panel uncovered a terrible culture of abuse and harm inside Hesley residential
50:02
homes for children with complex needs. And you know we've read about the punching,
50:10
the kicking, being fed with chilies, having vinegar poured into cuts,
50:15
and over one hundred reports of incidents between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty one in
50:22
a home that was rated good by Ofsted, pouring vinegar into children's wounds,
50:32
feeding them chilies, beating and abusing them in a home that was reported as
50:37
good by OFSTED. So when osted were questioned about this and Yvette Stanley came
50:43
back with her answer. Of course, she said they've put in lots of
50:46
extra staff, they tightened up their all of their systems. They were quite
50:52
horrified. She also added this in COVID no one got in. We didn't
51:00
get in, so that was part of the loss of that line of sight.
51:04
We must never lose a line of sight of these children if there is
51:07
another pandemic. But also what the panel alighted on was that the need for
51:12
absolute clounity when a local authority is placing a child two hundred miles away and
51:16
that the home local authority doesn't place any children there. How do we know
51:22
what's going on when you know thirty five local authorities and during our inspections we
51:25
would have wrung up those local authorities and said have you got any concerns?
51:29
They didn't have any concerns. They didn't have any concerns. They just got
51:36
lost. Nobody bothered. And the BBC article here will give you a bit
51:39
more information on what actually happened in Doncaster and this was a culture of abuse.
51:45
Fullerton House will Sick Hall and Wheatley House and the next slide Stephanie,
51:50
when she very kindly forwards, it will show you that Yvette Stanley in twenty
51:54
twenty one was actually in charge. She was the National Director for Regulation and
51:59
Social Care and she brought out a report her findings, and part of the
52:04
findings was that parents could only see their children for about one and a half
52:09
hours during the first lockdown or lock up as I call it, so they
52:15
were literally isolated. She went on to say that eighty percent of children's homes
52:20
are owned by the private sector. And if we look at OFFSTED report of
52:23
the main findings of the largest national providers of children's care facilities, we can
52:30
see that care Tech hold the line to share there with ten percent. There's
52:35
a few other companies their outcomes first Compass Community. But let's look at how
52:39
much was spent and in twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, eleven billion was
52:44
spent in children's services. And just want to take you very quickly to care
52:47
Tech. Who are care Tech since they're the largest, well, they say
52:52
they're a principal service provider delivering high quality, individualized care and support within a
52:58
person centered approach. Who runs it. The gentleman that runs it is for
53:02
ukshikh Obe. He started off with this single care home, but then they
53:07
sold it. He did other things and then he bought that. He bought
53:12
it back for a billion a billion pounds. Now Ben might be interested to
53:15
know that his CV includes Ernest Young Coots. He's patron and a fellow of
53:21
the Prince's Trust and he also runs a charitable foundation called Kosaref. If we
53:27
go and look at Kosaref, we can actually see that one of the priority
53:30
countries is the United Kingdom and we can see the involvement there again with the
53:35
Prince's Trust. So very quickly back to the Select Committee when this question was
53:40
asked to Yvette Stanley, head of Offsteed by Flick Drummond. Drummond who's MP
53:49
form meon Valley. She asks Yvett this question just a quick one to bet
53:57
Actually, were you aware that the people use handcuff to transport children between different
54:02
care settings or educational settings? And do you think that the use of handcuffs
54:07
outside the criminal justice system is ever appropriate? So I am aware. When
54:13
I took up the national role, I became aware because we regulate the securest
54:17
state it is a gap in regulation. I know in our submission we've produced
54:22
a long list of gaps in regulation that we would like field proportionately and carefully
54:28
etc. The Welsh government have abolished the use outside the criminal justice so I
54:34
absolutely understand that policy position, which will be a matter for the policy makers.
54:37
I think in practice and Michelle May and only May want to comment,
54:42
there are better ways to support children in managing moves and helping themselves regulate and
54:47
a lot of places have done some really good work on safe handling safe support
54:52
for children in crisis. So I personally would not be advocating for it outside
54:58
the criminal justice system ofsted sits outside the policy decision making. I personally would
55:07
advocate for handholding, not handcuffing. And in this article in The Independent you
55:12
can see that the horrendous practice of handcuffing children in care must be banned,
55:15
MPs warned, and in the next slide it also says that children have been
55:21
moved between care homes and court appointments with handcuffs on and as young as thirteen.
55:27
And just to tie up this segment, I just want to remind everybody
55:30
that children in care the councils can arrange these children to be jabbed to be
55:37
vaccinated despite parent opposition, the High Court rules. So my question is how
55:44
many children in care have been jabbed against their will, against the consent of
55:49
their parents, who didn't even know where they were. Debbie, thank you
55:53
very much. Lots and lots of questions to be asked there about what's happening
55:58
with children, but for somebody to be saying, well, of course we
56:00
lost a few, we don't know where they are, but it's not a
56:02
problem. Really, this tells us how disgusting UK is at the moment,
56:07
not the people in principle living here, but the people who are governing the
56:12
country. There's a lot we need to be bringing to the surface as quickly
56:16
as possible. Ben, we're getting towards the end of the news today.
56:22
But what have you got? Yeah? I was inspired. I'm going to
56:29
risk venturing into country matters. Charles is much better at this than I am,
56:34
but I was inspired by something he was talking about earlier in the week,
56:37
as it relates to a big focus on livestock and vaccination of livestock and
56:42
potential pandemics circulating the food system, and we're all thinking about where the next
56:46
pandemic is going to come from, or where they're going to tell us it's
56:50
going to come from. But is it possible that it's going to be an
56:52
attack on the food supply and not on us directly. Jeremy Farrer is the
57:00
CRN Chief Scientist at the World Health Organization. He was all that the director
57:04
of the Well Trust. He was on stage. He was responsible, not
57:07
least in part for the lockups that Emmy's been talking about and everything else that
57:12
went with it. Let's just hear what he has to say about H five
57:15
N one over the past couple of weeks. The current outbreak for want of
57:21
a better word, in America amongst cows is really concerning as well, and
57:25
also talks to this issue of transmission. We have to understand in those cow
57:31
settings. It sheds how H five N one is transmitting because it may be
57:37
learning, not learning, evolving into transmitting in different ways. Do the milking
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structures of cows create aerosols? Is it the environment which they're living in.
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Is it the transport system that is spreading this around the country. So this
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is a huge concern and I think we have to watch more than we have
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to make sure that if H five N one did come across to humans with
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human human transmission, that we were in a position to immediately respond with access
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equitably to vaccines, therapeutics and diagnostics. He wants to disrupt the phone supply.
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The other thing there is he mentioned sheds, and of course this is
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the harsh reality in a lot of cases in America that milk cows from milking
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are in sheds their whole life, which is not a natural environment, and
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then we're suddenly surprised when the cows are suffering and becoming ill. Yeah,
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a lot of questions to answer it in terms of the PHOE supply. Indeed,
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all right, thank you for that, Debbie. We're at a point
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where probably we should end the news. Would you like this segment to continue
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or should we keep it for our UK column members in extra time? Well,
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I think it deserves a bit more time. But just to tempt those
59:04
of you that aren't UK column subscribers, we're going to be talking about something
59:08
else that I think we need to just be keeping a very close eye on.
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So if you are a UK subscriber and you're able to watch extra,
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I think this topic really does need a little bit more discussion, so we'll
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hang on to it for a second. Abrian, Okay, thank you very
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much. Well, we're out of time for UK column US today. A
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huge thank you to everyone who's joined us wherever you are in the world.
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And I just want to say that a lot of people are now asking for
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I'm just going to end with a unique thing. I think it's called an
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unboxing. If I remember what the youngsters get up to on YouTube, so
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I have here a little box it's got a very nice little tin box inside,
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and inside the tin box is a really exceptionally beautiful where are we If
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you can see that that is a lighter of the Zippo style, I'll just
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click it open. But truly lovely. It's engraved with UK Column. We
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think it would make a beautiful and also a lighter for you to use on
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many occasions, whether it's cigarettes or candles, or incense sticks, or the
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campfire or the home fire. Many different uses for a responsible lighter, and
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if you fancy one of these, they will be available shortly in the UK
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Column Shop, So I'll leave you to think about that. But the minimum
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is you need one of these lighters to light a candle at home, so
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that you can relax a little bit from all this madness in a comfy chair
1:01:32
and enjoy the subtle light of that flickering candle. I'll leave you to think
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about that. Very big thank you to Debbie and to Ben for joining me
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today. We will be back on Monday at the same time. If you're
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a UK Column member, stay with us. In a few minutes we'll have
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UK Column Extra and we'll be delving into those exciting subjects we will see you,
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then bye bye, And then at him attempt the