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OWNing Wednesday: Love & Marriage Huntsville, Belle Collective, and LHH News · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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Speaker 2: All right, so our first topic of a day it
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Speaker 2: is shot o'clock.
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Speaker 3: I have my iron peels in the glass because I
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Speaker 3: got my ram I.
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Speaker 4: Don't know drinks today, Oh, I got is one. I
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Speaker 4: can go to the kitchen, go get something.
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Speaker 5: You're not a long, Claudia. I have water too.
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Speaker 6: As an emergency tactic, we have water to Claudia. It's
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Speaker 6: all good.
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Speaker 3: You are not alone in this because our first shot
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Speaker 3: topic of the evening, we are going to discuss the
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Speaker 3: ending of Love and Hip Hop franchise. Paramount who owns BET,
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Speaker 3: DH one, MTV, et cetera. They decided to end the
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Speaker 3: Love and Hip Hop franchise. The franchise, as you all know,
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Speaker 3: launched in twenty eleven. So over fifteen years ago, and
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Speaker 3: unfortunately they are ending it. They're doing a special call
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Speaker 3: Love and Hip Hop the final chapter, which explores the
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Speaker 3: rise of its breakout stars, the business empires, they built,
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Speaker 3: the headlines that dominated the conversation, and the franchise is
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Speaker 3: lasting cultural impact. Claudia, I want to start with you
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Speaker 3: because obviously we all know that you are currently on
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Speaker 3: Love and Hip Hop Miami as a friend to the show.
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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on this news? How did you
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Speaker 3: find out? Did you get a phone call?
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Speaker 2: What? What are your thoughts on all of this?
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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't get a phone call because I'm not
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Speaker 4: an official cast member. I'm literally like a like I do,
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Speaker 4: like a guest apparent, so I'm not under contract like
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Speaker 4: that with them. So Rada did. But I saw the news.
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Speaker 4: But you know, I knew when the Ellison brothers, like
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Speaker 4: you know, the Ellison family took over Paramount and all that.
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're right wing, maga, very much anti black.
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Speaker 4: They got rid of BT plus they did they getting
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Speaker 4: rid of It's gonna be really harsh times for a
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Speaker 4: lot of people, entertainment for black people. The money's drying up.
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Speaker 4: You gotta look to self finance, find funding amongst your community.
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Speaker 4: I think it's sad. I think that, uh, you know,
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Speaker 4: it's been around for so long. People can say what
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Speaker 4: they want about it being ratchet whatever, but it did
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Speaker 4: provide a lot of people with a lot of jobs
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Speaker 4: that might not have had a chance to be on
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Speaker 4: television otherwise, you know. So yeah, it's pretty sad for
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Speaker 4: the people that relied on it and didn't the people
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Speaker 4: that didn't, like create a different, like other income from it.
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Speaker 4: I do feel bad for them. But for the people
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Speaker 4: that were smart and took advantage of it, kudos to them.
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Speaker 4: But it's gonna be some tough time the next couple
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Speaker 4: of years.
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Speaker 5: Dustin.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, much like my sister Claudia just illustrated so perfectly,
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Speaker 7: this is a small piece of a much bigger puzzle.
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Speaker 7: And I know that we have a lot of fun,
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Speaker 7: you know, offering commentary on these reality shows. I know
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Speaker 7: people have a lot of fun talking shit about shows
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Speaker 7: on Twitter, and Loving hip Hop was one of the
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Speaker 7: biggest recipients of that sort of shit talking, and people
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Speaker 7: blame Love and hip hop for things that they didn't
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Speaker 7: ghetto in our culture and society. There's a running joke,
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Speaker 7: you know what, I'm saying, but it's not funny anymore.
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Speaker 5: This is a direct result of.
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Speaker 7: The powers that be making decisions when people are giving
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Speaker 7: power in that way, the Ellison family has indeed taken
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Speaker 7: over media, and this is an example of one of
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Speaker 7: the casualties of such love or hate the cast. This
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Speaker 7: was a vehicle that kept a lot of people of
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Speaker 7: color paid and working. And it goes beyond the ensemble
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Speaker 7: cast members. You got to think about the crew, You
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Speaker 7: got to think about the rioters, you got to think
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Speaker 7: about the assistance. There's a lot of people that ate
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Speaker 7: off of love and hip hop being current and active
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Speaker 7: as far as programming is concerned.
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Speaker 5: So you know, I didn't necessarily give.
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Speaker 7: A fuck about a lot of the people on the cast,
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Speaker 7: but I was glad they was working. You know what
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Speaker 7: I'm saying. I was glad we had something to talk about.
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Speaker 7: Shout out to Mona Skott Young for being a visionary.
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Speaker 7: Love her or hate the product, whatever she did that
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Speaker 7: So shout out to Mona Scott young, black woman running
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Speaker 7: shit and this will love it or hate it, it
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Speaker 7: is undeniably forever entrenched in our culture. This was a
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Speaker 7: thing for a lot of us, and I'm glad I
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Speaker 7: was here to witness it. I hate that they're ending it.
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Speaker 7: I think it's a missed opportunity for a bigger show
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Speaker 7: that could have covered multiple cities in one series. But
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Speaker 7: they ain't paying me to produce this shit, so I'm
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Speaker 7: gonna shut up. But I hate to see it leaving Blue.
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Speaker 8: First of all, Ikle the sentiments everybody said so far
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Speaker 8: also to I do strongly believe that black excellence is
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Speaker 8: a trauma response, and that if we ever want black liberation,
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Speaker 8: we have to let the full gamut of us be seen.
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Speaker 8: And we can't always just have perfect black people. We
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Speaker 8: have to have flawed black people, hood, black people, rich
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Speaker 8: and poor and everything in between. Right because white mediocrit
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Speaker 8: is allowed, We're allowed to see Seinfeldt a show about nothing.
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Speaker 6: Can you imagine a bunch of black.
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Speaker 8: People doing a show about absolutely nothing and being considered
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Speaker 8: one of the best shows in the world. Andy Cohen's
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Speaker 8: allowed to have ratchet white folks in Salt Lake getting
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Speaker 8: tipsy and arrested. So it's just weird to me that
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Speaker 8: we tend to pound down when it's black guilty pleasures,
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Speaker 8: but then but when it's a white person, we think that, oh,
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Speaker 8: this is just great TV. So I'm very hurting for
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Speaker 8: me personally. I have a lot of close friends who've
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Speaker 8: been on the show. Some became rich off of it,
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Speaker 8: others were completely traumatized. In our stilen therapy about it,
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Speaker 8: it runs the full gamut, right, and so we have
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Speaker 8: to be careful when we paint the show in broad strokes.
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Speaker 8: And to Claudie and Dustin's point, these are some people
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Speaker 8: who because they're so black, right, they would have never
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Speaker 8: gotten a chance to be seen and be loved elsewhere.
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Speaker 8: And there are people like them in our real families,
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Speaker 8: in our real lives who saw themselves seen. And even
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Speaker 8: when we think about the Cardi b of it all,
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Speaker 8: or even my friend Bridget Kelly who told me she
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Speaker 8: went back to love and Hip Hop because Beyongre Beyonce
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Speaker 8: told her to go back for a second season. Michelle
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Speaker 8: Obama has said she loves the show. So let's stop
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Speaker 8: pretending that, you know, we're in an ivory tower and
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Speaker 8: we're above it. It's something that's feeding our community. It's
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Speaker 8: something that's showing up part of our community that's inconvenient
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Speaker 8: but not inaccurate, and white folks are allowed to do
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Speaker 8: it without being admonished all the time. So I'm just saddened.
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Speaker 8: And also unfortunately, this is a sign of the times.
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Speaker 2: It is, it is, it is, and that's the reason why.
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Speaker 3: Look, this is terrible news. This is something that unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I've been saying to you guys for years,
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Speaker 3: well for the past two years. This industry is broke
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Speaker 3: and broke in. You can say what you want about
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Speaker 3: loving hip hop. What that show provided to people in
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Speaker 3: the hip hop industry was a way out.
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Speaker 2: It was a way out. Stevie j was broke, Mimi
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Speaker 2: Fouls was figuring things out at the time she started
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Speaker 2: the show.
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Speaker 3: Jostly Hernandez was a stripper, okay, kay, Michelle was bubbling
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Speaker 3: in terms of being a solo star. Carly Rid was
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Speaker 3: trying to figure whether or not she's gonna do West
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Speaker 3: Indy music.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Claudia, Mimi.
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Speaker 3: Who who went viral over the weekend which also picture
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Speaker 3: by the Waya and Kirk Rashida was in the shadows
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Speaker 3: of her friends Candy, Toya and the rest of the
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Speaker 3: Atlanta elite. And then you had Erica Dixon, who who
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Speaker 3: had a literal nine to five job. And this is this,
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Speaker 3: this breaks my heart. And the reason why it breaks
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Speaker 3: my heart is because you could say, like like all
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Speaker 3: three of you said so eloquently, you can say what
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Speaker 3: you want about shows. It bothers me that would it
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Speaker 3: comes to our community. And I'm talking to black people
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Speaker 3: right now. It's one thing to criticize the show. We
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Speaker 3: do it, we give our thoughts on it.
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Speaker 2: Whatever.
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Speaker 3: It bothers me that when it comes to certain black shows,
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Speaker 3: y'all want to cancel, get get rid of this. As
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Speaker 3: if there isn't a variety of other things for you
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Speaker 3: to watch. YouTube is the biggest platform in the world, okay,
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Speaker 3: beating Netflix. If you don't like love and hip hop,
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Speaker 3: watch Angel Massey news show.
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Speaker 5: Okay, hey hey, hey, hey, hey hey hey.
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Speaker 4: You know I went too far now.
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Speaker 3: Limits at a second, meaning you know a show that
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Speaker 3: it's about home life. If you don't like this, there's
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Speaker 3: something else for you to watch. That was That was
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Speaker 3: That was the point I was making.
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Speaker 2: I I was very sad.
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Speaker 3: Claudia Jordan actually informed me first of the news, and
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Speaker 3: little did she know that I actually later that evening
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Speaker 3: I cried.
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Speaker 2: Because and I'm not gonna cry right now. I cried because.
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Speaker 3: I got the opportunity to work on love and hip hop,
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Speaker 3: and I learned so much from Mona Scott Young, and
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Speaker 3: I know that when it comes to Mona Scott Young,
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Speaker 3: there's tons of things that people can say, and I'm
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Speaker 3: not here to say anything about what people say. I
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Speaker 3: can only share with you guys in my experience. I
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Speaker 3: am Carlos King because God created me and because I
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Speaker 3: do the work. But I will never not give that
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Speaker 3: woman her props for teaching me the ropes and the
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Speaker 3: time we work together, Mona Scott Young taught me how
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Speaker 3: to be a better producer.
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Speaker 2: I was already doing Housewives, but I was trying to
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Speaker 2: figure out my next chapter.
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Speaker 3: And I owe a lot of my success to Mona,
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Speaker 3: because there's one thing to look at.
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Speaker 2: A boss who is tough on you and you feel like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, you're embarrassing me. Mona's got young. I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna tell this quick story Mona. When I work with her,
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Speaker 2: we used to stay up late me Mona.
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Speaker 5: Stephanie Gale shout out Stephanie Gail, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We will, Stephanie.
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Speaker 3: We would stay up late, and I remember thinking, like Mona,
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be at the office past eleven
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Speaker 3: o'clock PM and then wake up at ten am.
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Speaker 2: To do whatever.
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Speaker 3: Long story short, she was in the trenches and she
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Speaker 3: she pushed me, and she pushed me, and she pushed
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Speaker 3: me so much. So one day she was running late
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Speaker 3: to a scene with Erica Dixon and her mother. This
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Speaker 3: is season one of Milana, and she said, Carlo, you
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Speaker 3: got this. I said, I got it. And you know,
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Speaker 3: we all in our careers we always wanted for our boss.
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Speaker 2: We had it.
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Speaker 3: And long story short, I take the scene. I thought
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Speaker 3: it'd been well.
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Speaker 2: Mona arrived at the end, she said, how did it go?
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Speaker 2: I said it was good.
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Speaker 3: She said good, and she in my in my mind
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Speaker 3: at the time, she little boyed me.
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Speaker 2: She asked a cameraman show me the footage. She washed this.
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Speaker 3: Then I have to hold Erica Dixon and her mother
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Speaker 3: and she came back and she said, we're gonna be
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Speaker 3: shoot it. It wasn't great, and I remember being so embarrassed,
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Speaker 3: like this woman has embarrassed me in front of my peers.
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Speaker 5: And when she.
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Speaker 2: Spoke to Erica Dixon, she said, now, what's.
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Speaker 3: The real story within your mom Long story short, it
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Speaker 3: turned out to be a powerful scene, and in that moment,
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Speaker 3: Mona looked at me and.
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Speaker 2: She said, we don't do good, we do great.
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Speaker 3: And I walked away from that moment feeling like I
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Speaker 3: could have said this narrative throughout my career that Mona's mean,
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Speaker 3: she was hard, she was she was a B word
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Speaker 3: to me. She little boyed me. I'll walk the way
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Speaker 3: learning from her. Good is not enough. You have to
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Speaker 3: be great. And Mona Scott Young because of my experience
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Speaker 3: love and hip hop, she taught me how to be
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Speaker 3: a better producer. And I know she did that for
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Speaker 3: a lot of people. And I don't think she gets
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Speaker 3: a prop she deserves. And it's a sad day in
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Speaker 3: Black culture. This show could have lasted as long as
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Speaker 3: Real Housewives. And when black people, I'm gonna talk to
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Speaker 3: y'all Black folks, when y'all watch Real Housewives, y'all are
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Speaker 3: so hard on Atlanta and y'all are super hard on Potonac.
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Speaker 3: And when it comes to those two black Real Housewives,
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Speaker 3: y'all shave that show more than any of the other shows.
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Speaker 3: Y'all not only called the show boring. If it's not
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Speaker 3: messy enough, y'all call if to be canceled. Whereas white
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Speaker 3: shows y'all give critiques to it, get this person, cast
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Speaker 3: this person, and that's what is sad about it. And unfortunately,
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Speaker 3: what's happening in this industry is the erasure of black content.
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Speaker 3: It's the eraser of DEI okay, it's the raiser of
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Speaker 3: the black experience. And that's the reason why I cried
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Speaker 3: over the weekend because this is the reality that we have.
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Speaker 2: Black shows are getting canceled.
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Speaker 3: And when you guys are on social media dissing the.
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Speaker 2: Black show again, be critical. I don't we all are,
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Speaker 2: but when you call from the.
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Speaker 3: Cancelation, let's be clear, people are looking and they're watching,
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Speaker 3: and it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. It was just
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Speaker 3: sad to me, but I wanted to make sure that
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Speaker 3: I gave mona scot Young her flowers, Stephanie k Yandy Smith,
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Speaker 3: who pitched this show that started with Jim Jones and Christy,
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Speaker 3: these people and the beautiful cast of Love and Hip
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Speaker 3: Hop Atlanta, like I got a chance to work with
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Speaker 3: Ken Michelle is not thriving on Real Housewords Atlanta because
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Speaker 3: of Love and Hip Hop.
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Speaker 2: Party B is arguably a or.
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Speaker 3: A superstar to be reckoned with because of Loving hip Hop.
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Speaker 3: Jocelyn Hernanzz has her own app be because.
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Speaker 2: Of Loving hip Hop.
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Speaker 3: So you can just the program while you want to,
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Speaker 3: But what you can do is negate the success that
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Speaker 3: it afforded these very same people who now have something
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Speaker 3: to do outside of it.
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Speaker 2: So Mahart goes out to the cast, to the crew.
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Speaker 3: There's gonna be a ton of unappointment for black producers
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Speaker 3: and camera oper radios, audio people because there's no longer
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Speaker 3: franchise that they can now work for.
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Speaker 4: I want to add piggyback on that real quick about
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Speaker 4: outside of the entertainment, Like the people that are watching
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Speaker 4: that are not in the business, that maybe this doesn't
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Speaker 4: resonate with you. It's not even just entertainment, Okay, it's
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Speaker 4: a thing in our culture, and it's just something that
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Speaker 4: we're just so hard on each other that we're not
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Speaker 4: And then when a white person comes along with half
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Speaker 4: the talent, we like embrace them. We're so quick to
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Speaker 4: embrace everybody else and celebrate others andvite everybody's a goddamn
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Speaker 4: cook at all time. Meanwhile, we're so harsh on each other,
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Speaker 4: like we're way more harsh for each other. I saw
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Speaker 4: this meme before about like the Klan and the race
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Speaker 4: is kind of stepping back and just letting us kill
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Speaker 4: kill each other off. It's somewhat to that effect, and
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Speaker 4: it's like it's so true.
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Speaker 9: And we only feel some kind of way when the
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Speaker 9: ship's over with, right, like not when we can support it.
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Speaker 4: It may not be a cup of tea. But again
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Speaker 4: calling for the cancelation, it's a bit far like let
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Speaker 4: the people. Some people are not gonna in acting. They're
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Speaker 4: not gonna ever do Shakespeare. Okay, they're not gonna do
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Speaker 4: those they're not gonna do all the way, but they
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Speaker 4: could do a movie on two B. So stop dissing
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Speaker 4: to B. Stop diving this and love and hip hop
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Speaker 4: the shows that you deem as lower class or what
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Speaker 4: have you, because there's all kinds of classes and there's
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Speaker 4: a place for everyone, and that's when everyone. We need that,
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Speaker 4: we need that. It's I think it's not I hate
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Speaker 4: it and I hate that we how we down we
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Speaker 4: downplay our award shows like the BT Awards, the trash,
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Speaker 4: but we want to go to the Emmys. No, why
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Speaker 4: why why cannot we have the biggest stars in the world.
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Speaker 4: Let why don't we like we need to embrace the
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Speaker 4: more our A listeners need to be at these award
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Speaker 4: shows supporting. Yeah, it's frustrating.
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Speaker 8: It's it's trauma because we're scared of embarrassing ourselves in
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Speaker 8: front of the white case. It's it's it's post racial
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Speaker 8: trauma where we don't want to look stupid in front
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Speaker 8: of white folks. That's a subconscious reason that we do
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Speaker 8: it here. We don't want to be our regular human,
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Speaker 8: messy selves because we don't want the white folks to
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Speaker 8: look down on us, so we do it first.
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Speaker 2: It's that's that's all I have feedback is that I
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Speaker 2: don't know what happened child that was that was the Lord. No,
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Speaker 2: So it definitely is that.
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Speaker 3: But look, that's why at the end of the day,
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Speaker 3: I want to continue saying this support black content.
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Speaker 6: Again.
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Speaker 2: No one is saying you don't have to criticize it.
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Speaker 2: Criticize it all you want to.
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Speaker 3: What I am simply saying is when you call for
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Speaker 3: the cancelation of shows because it's not fitting your purview
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Speaker 3: of what you think black excellence is Michelle Obama, the
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Speaker 3: first and only black first lady in the world, wash
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Speaker 3: the enquoted Mama de Loves it you how it resonates
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Speaker 3: to a wide audience.
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Speaker 4: Claudia, I have a dustin moment, real quick, missus Jones,
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Speaker 4: please stop, Claudia, you be the main one. Cut it out.
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Speaker 4: I support black show. I'm at every Black vote up
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Speaker 4: single year, every Black Award show. I support. Whether there's
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Speaker 4: no celebrities, whether it's a ton of celebrities. When it
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Speaker 4: comes to two B movies, they's a black director sends
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Speaker 4: me a script. It could be beneath me. The budget's
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Speaker 4: not big. I see an up and coming black director.
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Speaker 4: Guess what I'm there. Yes, people can clown me and
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Speaker 4: talk about the quality. I support up and coming directors
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Speaker 4: before everybody gets on their tip. I think that is
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Speaker 4: real support. I lend my name to projects all the time.
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Speaker 4: I let people pitch things with my name attached, even
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Speaker 4: if it doesn't work out, because that's how they get
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Speaker 4: money for their projects. They have to attach names to projects.
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Speaker 4: I let them do it before they even give me
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Speaker 4: one dime. So please miss me with that. I get
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Speaker 4: so sickotied of being demonized and vilified. I put my
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Speaker 4: actual money where my mouth is. I financed a play
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Speaker 4: and put other people to work. I do what I
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Speaker 4: say I do, and that's how you really support. So
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Speaker 4: please don't speak on that. I give commentary. I need
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Speaker 4: people to understand. Commentary is on someone's performance on a
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Speaker 4: reality show. That is not a personal hatred or dislike.
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Speaker 4: It is commentary. I need you to know the difference.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, Santa Claus is not real. I
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Speaker 4: feel like I got to tell you every little thing.
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18:45
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18:47
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18:49
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18:50
Speaker 3: Glad you're talking about it because again, Sherry Sheppard got canceled.
18:53
Speaker 2: Caroma Brown Show got canceled. So listen.
18:56
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, all I'm saying is, yes,
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19:55
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20:03
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Speaker 7: It was acceptable like I chose to do while you
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Speaker 7: were doing that, because I still have not jumped in.
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Speaker 7: I did not feel that there was blatant malice in
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Speaker 4: Missus Jones. I just feel like, you know, I don't
20:32
Speaker 4: like you know. My trigger is being misrepresented and mischaracterized.
20:36
Speaker 4: And I'm always you call me your home, you call
20:38
Speaker 4: me a colorist, they.
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Speaker 5: Call you a hole because your mike say road.
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Speaker 2: Is that it?
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Speaker 4: Im?
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Speaker 6: I wish I wrote more shut a clock again.
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Speaker 9: I'm getting a dry I had the fun and the
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Speaker 9: whole experiences that they want me to have.
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna start being a hold of share. Then'm get
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Speaker 3: One show that I think you guys for supporting a
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21:13
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, we have to get into.
21:19
Speaker 3: Stormy versus Tiphany, so rain drops blue dustin as you
21:25
Speaker 3: all know, ever since the mop incidentn't.
21:29
Speaker 2: Happen, come on Claude with her shot.
21:31
Speaker 3: Ever since the mop inci didn't happen between Tiffany and Stormy,
21:35
Speaker 3: things kind.
21:36
Speaker 2: Of just been a little bit weird between the two.
21:39
Speaker 3: Tiffany got uninvited, disinvited from Stormy TikTok Live Ala La Anthony,
21:46
Speaker 3: and now they decided to attend this civil rights museum.
21:51
Speaker 3: They weren't able to go in because baby shit had
21:54
Speaker 3: to come out. So Tiffany and Stormy along with her
21:59
Speaker 3: plus one the first movie but Birmingham, the mayor's wife,
22:05
Speaker 3: and Chanelle, the credit director of Canvas Beauty. Starting with Dustin,
22:13
Speaker 3: what did you think of the one on one between
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Speaker 3: Stormy and Tiffany?
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Speaker 7: I was disappointed in Stormy just gonna keep it all
22:21
Speaker 7: the way buck. I feel like everybody reaching when it
22:23
Speaker 7: comes to the conflicts with Tiffany.
22:26
Speaker 5: She is irritating. She does talk too much with people
22:29
Speaker 5: who you know them.
22:31
Speaker 7: Faith based, you know, creators and ship They they are
22:34
Speaker 7: they are a little long winded, they are a little
22:36
Speaker 7: opinion that they're free with giving out their opinion on everything,
22:40
Speaker 7: and that can be irritating for people. Yeah, but they're
22:44
Speaker 7: painting her as if she is this bad person and
22:48
Speaker 7: she's not. Look at the conversation between her and Fumi, right,
22:52
Speaker 7: and how they was able to just piece it up
22:54
Speaker 7: like girl, this was this, this was that they got
22:56
Speaker 7: clear moved on, you know, And I think that's what
22:59
Speaker 7: Tiffany was a tempting to do with Stormy. But I
23:01
Speaker 7: think Stormy had already decided I don't like her ass,
23:05
Speaker 7: and so I really don't give a fuck. What she
23:06
Speaker 7: say to me is not gonna be easy in this conversation,
23:09
Speaker 7: and that's what we witnessed. So you know, I'm all
23:12
Speaker 7: about a good organic conflict like what we witnessed on
23:16
Speaker 7: another show this week that we'll get too later. But
23:18
Speaker 7: when you are trying to create it from nothing, sometimes
23:22
Speaker 7: that can be a little bit less enjoyable for us
23:25
Speaker 7: as fans. We know Stormy has it in her. The
23:28
Speaker 7: first thing we need to do is congratulate Stormy on
23:30
Speaker 7: their Live. All the money she made, the beautiful set,
23:34
Speaker 7: the way La La looks so gorgeous, the products selling
23:37
Speaker 7: like hot cakes.
23:38
Speaker 5: We love all of that.
23:40
Speaker 7: Stormy is that girl, undeniably right, and these are accolades
23:45
Speaker 7: and accomplishments that go far beyond her trying to position
23:49
Speaker 7: herself as the leader of this incredible reality show. This
23:52
Speaker 7: is big shit that is like record setting in when
23:56
Speaker 7: it comes to sales of that type. So we don't
23:59
Speaker 7: want to scoff at that. I just want Stormy to
24:01
Speaker 7: be a little bit more authentic when it comes to
24:03
Speaker 7: her engagement with the ladies and just let the beef
24:06
Speaker 7: cook when it gets on the grill, you don't have
24:08
Speaker 7: to always slam it on the grill and smash it
24:10
Speaker 7: down and make sure it's cooking fully, Like, just let
24:13
Speaker 7: it happen, Mama, because you got it.
24:14
Speaker 5: Stormy is cook on her feet. So I just want
24:17
Speaker 5: to see that from her. Claudia.
24:21
Speaker 4: I can see both of the women contributing to that
24:23
Speaker 4: moment absolutely. Again. I think I mentioned this last week
24:28
Speaker 4: about female friendships how delicate they are, especially if you
24:31
Speaker 4: don't know me and I know cameras on me us.
24:34
Speaker 4: I feel like you know when you sudden someone like
24:36
Speaker 4: you do know when you sudden someone, And I do
24:38
Speaker 4: feel like there was a little bit of that as
24:39
Speaker 4: far as like the whole mop go mop my floor,
24:43
Speaker 4: clean up and out four and you.
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Speaker 6: Don't I don't know.
24:45
Speaker 4: Some people don't like are okay when you play with
24:47
Speaker 4: them like that, They're like, ah, whatever, who cares? And
24:49
Speaker 4: then others are going to hold on to it. And
24:51
Speaker 4: if you're on a reality show, I always think on
24:53
Speaker 4: a show, it's different, and I always think about your motive.
24:57
Speaker 4: You're trying to little girl me in that moment, and
24:58
Speaker 4: then of course if you're the victor of that, you're
25:00
Speaker 4: gonna drag it because now you know that that's what
25:03
Speaker 4: gets you more camera time and more episodes. Like that's
25:06
Speaker 4: just kind of how it is. So it's kind of
25:08
Speaker 4: hard to know what's really authentic because it is on
25:11
Speaker 4: a TV show, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
25:14
Speaker 4: are you putting I know people keep coming from me
25:16
Speaker 4: saying I always say ten on twenty y, I'll be
25:18
Speaker 4: saying twenty on ten, I say ten on twenty. Okay,
25:23
Speaker 4: you just don't know, like what's authentic, and I guess
25:25
Speaker 4: time will tell as the episodes go on. We are
25:27
Speaker 4: being newly introduced these ladies. I don't know, but I
25:30
Speaker 4: just feel like right now they're both gonna just ride
25:33
Speaker 4: it a little bit because it does there's no we
25:35
Speaker 4: don't know who the star is yet, right because it's
25:37
Speaker 4: like what episode three, episode four, So you know, people
25:40
Speaker 4: be doing that little thing to try to jockey into
25:42
Speaker 4: position of you know, being that girl, and you get
25:46
Speaker 4: that by having conflict, you don't get those the start.
25:49
Speaker 4: You don't get that by having no conflict, you have
25:52
Speaker 4: to kind of keep some action around you. So yeah,
25:56
Speaker 4: I think they both contribute a little bit to it.
25:59
Speaker 8: Blue man, I'm conflicted because Okay, I'll be honest. I
26:04
Speaker 8: told Carlos that burn my hand is my favorite. I
26:05
Speaker 8: know when I supposed to have faced, but look at me,
26:07
Speaker 8: I have one. And I think part of the reason
26:10
Speaker 8: is because my business had gone viral a couple months ago.
26:14
Speaker 8: And I remember calling this scuper driver to pick me
26:16
Speaker 8: up because we were just drowning in orders and he
26:18
Speaker 8: was shipping things out and he was like, do you
26:20
Speaker 8: need a dedicated driver because you seem stressed, and I
26:23
Speaker 8: said yes, can I have your number? He's like, you know,
26:25
Speaker 8: you remind me of this girl, and then he starts
26:27
Speaker 8: talking and I said, that's the lady that Carlos said
26:30
Speaker 8: he's doing a show with. This was like a week
26:32
Speaker 8: after you told us about Stormy, Carlos, Oh really.
26:35
Speaker 6: Carson, Stormy's driver.
26:37
Speaker 8: He for forty minutes, Carlos drove me and Bridget around
26:40
Speaker 8: La dropping off product talking about how amazing she was.
26:44
Speaker 8: So I walked into the show biased. I would admit
26:46
Speaker 8: that because everything he said about her, I was like.
26:49
Speaker 6: She seems amazing. I saw the show, she seems amazing.
26:54
Speaker 8: And then it got tricky because this this less episode,
26:56
Speaker 8: it felt like to Dustin and Claudia's point. I was
27:00
Speaker 8: prepared to be team Stormy the way I'm team Stacy.
27:03
Speaker 8: Stacy could lie straight to my face and tell me
27:05
Speaker 8: the sky is purple. I'm still team Stacey. But when
27:08
Speaker 8: I saw that argument, I said, baby, she asked you
27:10
Speaker 8: a clear, direct question that you won't answer, and you
27:13
Speaker 8: being cute right now when you could have just answered
27:16
Speaker 8: it and squashed it. And I kept on waiting for
27:18
Speaker 8: the scene for her to finally answer, and she kept
27:20
Speaker 8: on being cute, and I was like, oh, you think
27:22
Speaker 8: you caught a lig And it's this thing that happens
27:25
Speaker 8: when the hubris gets to your head where you perceive
27:28
Speaker 8: somebody as being weak. You can tell that you're a
27:30
Speaker 8: boss ass bit who's probably gonna be a fan fave,
27:33
Speaker 8: and it gets to your head and you start to
27:35
Speaker 8: act a little bit above yourself. And so I am
27:38
Speaker 8: praying that this is a fluke and that at some
27:40
Speaker 8: point Stormy calms the fuck.
27:42
Speaker 6: Down, because as annoying as Tiffany is, it did.
27:45
Speaker 8: Feel like a reach. It did feel like she was
27:47
Speaker 8: trying to get more airtime. It did feel like she
27:49
Speaker 8: slightly overplayed her hand, and I was prepared to be
27:51
Speaker 8: on her side. Until I watched it and I was like, oh, baby,
27:53
Speaker 8: you got me defending the wrong side. So Stormy, you're
27:56
Speaker 8: an amazing person in real life. Sure you have to
27:58
Speaker 8: make good TV, sure, but you have to recognize that
28:01
Speaker 8: the real you are so amazing. We don't need this,
28:04
Speaker 8: We don't need you pouncing on.
28:05
Speaker 6: Her the way they do with Drew on Atlanta, or
28:08
Speaker 6: the way they there's anybody else.
28:10
Speaker 8: No, just Drew, the way they do it Drew in Atlanta,
28:12
Speaker 8: Like you could just let leave the girl alone and
28:14
Speaker 8: stop using it because it's coming off slightly to use
28:17
Speaker 8: the B where's slightly bullish lower case B, not uppercase. Luckily,
28:21
Speaker 8: Tiffany can defend herself, so I think that's why it's
28:24
Speaker 8: not working. So to Tiffany's point, the guy that she
28:27
Speaker 8: served has hands, apparently, but I need Stormy to pull it.
28:30
Speaker 2: Back a little bit.
28:31
Speaker 4: Just I just in my bad, I forgot about that.
28:34
Speaker 4: But Stormy was annoying outside when they did that part,
28:38
Speaker 4: like it could have been squashing two minutes. It could
28:41
Speaker 4: have been squashing two minutes. I forgot about that that point. Yes,
28:44
Speaker 4: that part was very much dragging. Tell me, tell me
28:47
Speaker 4: what she said. What do you think exactly when she
28:49
Speaker 4: lost me. It was the exact women. I was like,
28:51
Speaker 4: oh man, now I got a flip flop on the shoulder, like, yeah,
28:54
Speaker 4: that was the That was the maybe trying to get
28:58
Speaker 4: a be for the through for the rest of the
29:00
Speaker 4: season or something. I don't know, but yeah, it seemed
29:03
Speaker 4: like at that point did feel the punishment didn't fit
29:04
Speaker 4: the crime. Like I was like, she could have just said, hey, man,
29:06
Speaker 4: I didn't like we said that mop thing. Okay, cool
29:09
Speaker 4: on my beat, I won't do it again, bam, let's
29:11
Speaker 4: go inside down and we.
29:12
Speaker 5: Cool when mind you, she had us all in the
29:15
Speaker 5: palm of her hands when they.
29:17
Speaker 7: Was trying to figure out the sound oring a live Amen.
29:20
Speaker 7: That's my point, Like, you don't have to try to
29:22
Speaker 7: find it. It just happens naturally, whether it's related to
29:26
Speaker 7: a conflict with another person or not. It's the authenticity
29:30
Speaker 7: of the situation that makes it interesting. And when you're
29:33
Speaker 7: going out of your way to make it a hot
29:36
Speaker 7: conflict or whatever, it lacks entertainment value for me.
29:41
Speaker 4: Oh man, I know, because like last week's it was
29:47
Speaker 4: Tiffany was annoying that you did redeem herself with that,
29:50
Speaker 4: which was good, which was definitely good.
29:53
Speaker 8: Well doesn't call it because me and Claudia flipped this
29:55
Speaker 8: week to storming overplayed her hand.
29:56
Speaker 6: But Dustin been said, this is you're doing too much.
30:00
Speaker 6: You was right?
30:00
Speaker 4: Friends? How come mama only one drinking multiple drinks? Are
30:03
Speaker 4: we only doing caught up?
30:05
Speaker 6: I'm on the same drink. That bottle is almost empty.
30:11
Speaker 4: Bottle, I guess blues out the only one with the
30:16
Speaker 4: without a gag reflection.
30:20
Speaker 6: I remember me this time.
30:25
Speaker 2: We love a gag. We love Yes, it doesn't bell
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Speaker 2: collective birding house or rain drops.
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Speaker 3: episode one five, already four, episode four, so we yeah.
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Speaker 3: So the episode four, episode five airs this Friday. Another
30:58
Speaker 3: moment I want to get into happened on Love and
31:01
Speaker 3: Marriage Huntsville.
31:02
Speaker 7: Before we leave. One more thing I'm so sorry to
31:05
Speaker 7: jump into. I just thought about it.
31:07
Speaker 5: Amber's mama, when I tell you, I don't give a
31:10
Speaker 5: fuck what's going on? Amber?
31:11
Speaker 7: I gotta sneak with if you had a man and
31:13
Speaker 7: I and Mama I need to get well, if you
31:15
Speaker 7: had a man, mama, they put butter on my brother.
31:19
Speaker 7: But if you had a man, maybe they would. I
31:22
Speaker 7: was like her, mama, just don't give a fuck. We
31:25
Speaker 7: got a new mama on the scene, y'all.
31:27
Speaker 5: And what was her name? Amberlen? Was that her name?
31:31
Speaker 5: Something like yeah, Amberlen?
31:32
Speaker 8: That.
31:33
Speaker 7: Seeing that in and of itself, I knew we were
31:35
Speaker 7: in for a treat. And when she got in that
31:37
Speaker 7: car and buckled that sea belt in the Zodiac signed
31:40
Speaker 7: sweatshirt okay, and buckled that sea belt, she was ready
31:44
Speaker 7: for action. So no matter what the fuck, we got
31:47
Speaker 7: a flat trouble. If you had a man, I was like, damn,
31:50
Speaker 7: I just wanted to make note.
31:51
Speaker 5: Of that because I enjoyed that before we moved on.
31:54
Speaker 5: That's all.
31:55
Speaker 2: No, I love you, thank we love Amber's Momber's mom.
31:59
Speaker 2: I believe she's watching.
32:00
Speaker 5: Yes, that's her book. Well, if you had a man
32:07
Speaker 5: a memoir.
32:08
Speaker 6: I got that.
32:10
Speaker 2: That's such a good book. As we get into love
32:16
Speaker 2: and marriage Huntsville, I mean, look this scene. I told you, guys,
32:20
Speaker 2: Destiny and Tsha, it gets worse. It just was like,
32:24
Speaker 2: it can't get worse than the real estate scene.
32:26
Speaker 5: I'm like.
32:29
Speaker 2: It gets worse.
32:31
Speaker 3: Destiny and Tsha, and I want to go on record
32:34
Speaker 3: saying this, Destiny and Tsha to.
32:37
Speaker 2: Me are underrated reality stars in terms.
32:41
Speaker 3: Of the the way they're able to be raw and
32:46
Speaker 3: real in front of the cameras without worrying about without
32:51
Speaker 3: worrying about how they look, because you know, look, Destney
32:55
Speaker 3: had a very hard time with the fans.
32:57
Speaker 2: T Sha has hard times with the fans, but they
33:01
Speaker 2: still are able to be like it is what it is.
33:04
Speaker 3: And as Vulture celebrating a lot of good reality starts
33:08
Speaker 3: to deserve it as we talk about people who don't
33:11
Speaker 3: get mentioned, I would like to mention and Tsha not
33:15
Speaker 3: performance because that's not like they're acting, but their reality
33:19
Speaker 3: over the weekend. Because whether your team Destiny or team Tisha,
33:23
Speaker 3: I want to go on record saying watching that scene unfold,
33:27
Speaker 3: you can literally smell the sweat from their forehead in
33:33
Speaker 3: terms of how upset they were with each other. So
33:37
Speaker 3: to bring up what occurred that Tricia through a drag
33:44
Speaker 3: party at a restaurant. They're having fun and then Destiny
33:49
Speaker 3: and Tisha decided to address their issues. Destiny made a
33:54
Speaker 3: comment that ship set off that shits that set shit off.
33:59
Speaker 3: Excuse me when Destiny said the only person who does
34:04
Speaker 3: not defend you is your husband and Dustin. Can you
34:08
Speaker 3: please make the face that Treasia made when that comment occurred.
34:19
Speaker 3: So starting with Blue to Lose, MU, give your thoughts
34:24
Speaker 3: on Destiny and Titia.
34:29
Speaker 2: Interaction.
34:30
Speaker 6: Who the hell is Team Tasher?
34:33
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay because I because sometimes things are great.
34:40
Speaker 8: Sometimes things are very black and white. Okay, shout out
34:42
Speaker 8: to the m J movie. It's good, it's just a
34:45
Speaker 8: little I'm sorry, cake.
34:49
Speaker 6: Did you see what he turns? Michael didn't have cheeks
34:53
Speaker 6: like that, just saying go watch the Movie's very good.
34:56
Speaker 6: But am I lying?
34:57
Speaker 4: Though?
34:58
Speaker 2: Jaffar the squats?
35:00
Speaker 4: I have to see it.
35:02
Speaker 6: He turned around. I said, I've seen.
35:06
Speaker 5: I didn't watch it.
35:09
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a squad on MJ. But anyway, sorry, back
35:11
Speaker 6: to okay, Yeah, okay, shout out a Jermaine. I don't
35:18
Speaker 6: know who could be Team t sha is.
35:20
Speaker 8: Whenever she brings up her points, which are not points,
35:23
Speaker 8: they're just throwing things at the wall, she's allergic to logic.
35:26
Speaker 8: During this entire conversation, remember that Rick James skit from
35:30
Speaker 8: Charlie Murphy.
35:32
Speaker 6: No, I didn't I.
35:32
Speaker 8: Didn't grind my feet on your couch. Yeah, grinding my
35:35
Speaker 8: feet on your Like, wait a minute, you just said
35:37
Speaker 8: the lady don't defend you. Now you're saying you didn't
35:39
Speaker 8: say the lady don't defend you.
35:40
Speaker 3: What is it?
35:41
Speaker 8: What is the reason when I tell you my brain
35:43
Speaker 8: my eyes started to twist because I was trying to
35:45
Speaker 8: follow along.
35:46
Speaker 6: I wanted so bad to follow along. She made no sense.
35:50
Speaker 6: It was very emotional, she got.
35:55
Speaker 2: Boutique.
35:59
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, you can't really like it that much?
36:07
Speaker 8: Yeah, sure, sure, Okay, Well you guys just know I'm
36:12
Speaker 8: slightly judging you.
36:13
Speaker 2: I'm perceiving.
36:13
Speaker 6: I'm loving you, though it didn't make any sense. You
36:18
Speaker 6: know what it sounds like, and this is me trying
36:20
Speaker 6: to show empathy.
36:21
Speaker 8: It sounds like when someone who is insecure feels like
36:28
Speaker 8: a friend or someone in their ecosystem is too good
36:31
Speaker 8: for them or better than them, and they think if
36:33
Speaker 8: I was her, I would look down on me, and
36:36
Speaker 8: so they assume that person is looking down on them
36:38
Speaker 8: because they would look down on them. There's an insecurity
36:40
Speaker 8: in what she's asking of destiny that only comes when
36:44
Speaker 8: you're already predisposed to think women like her always look
36:47
Speaker 8: down at women like me, But in real life, Destiny
36:49
Speaker 8: has your back.
36:50
Speaker 6: In real life, you make no sense.
36:52
Speaker 8: In real life you call her a whore, but then
36:54
Speaker 8: say she can't point out that you're asking something of
36:56
Speaker 8: her that your own husband doesn't give you. It does
36:58
Speaker 8: not make sense to me. It is very emotional. The
37:01
Speaker 8: logic is a thin if non existent. I wanted so
37:05
Speaker 8: badly to see her side because I think we did
37:06
Speaker 8: an episode with her, Carlos where she was lovely to me,
37:09
Speaker 8: so I almost felt bad, But I was like, girl,
37:10
Speaker 8: you lost me. You don't make no damn sense. Your
37:13
Speaker 8: booty hurt that Destiny is fabulous and beautiful and dating
37:16
Speaker 8: other men and having a time of her life and
37:18
Speaker 8: doing things that you can't do. You've made different choices,
37:21
Speaker 8: and she's not looking down on you. You're looking down
37:23
Speaker 8: on you, and you're projecting like a mother sucker. If
37:25
Speaker 8: you look at projection, it is a picture of Titia
37:27
Speaker 8: with a big old vein in her neck. This entire season,
37:30
Speaker 8: I'm poor Destiny.
37:32
Speaker 2: Is doing the lord's work.
37:33
Speaker 8: Give her a raised, Carlos. There has to be some
37:35
Speaker 8: kind of babysitting tax. When you gotta explain that water
37:38
Speaker 8: is wet to your coastar every goddamn.
37:41
Speaker 5: Crazy.
37:43
Speaker 6: Sorry it's the alcohol. I'm gonna stop, buta Titia stop,
37:45
Speaker 6: please just sit down.
37:46
Speaker 3: Just's next, Claudia Jordan.
37:51
Speaker 4: I feel like Letitia Scott is jealous that Destney went
37:58
Speaker 4: from feeling like a a Tier two cast member to
38:05
Speaker 4: tier one. She thinks she's cute, and I feel like,
38:08
Speaker 4: you know again, you know when you hear Destney's filming again,
38:13
Speaker 4: Desney's filming again, film with theme with Destney Deathney got
38:17
Speaker 4: the trip to Detroit to Michigan. All that kinds out.
38:19
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, that is how people act. And I
38:22
Speaker 4: feel like Leticia felt like, now that Melody is out
38:25
Speaker 4: the way, I'm gonna be the star of the show,
38:28
Speaker 4: me and my husband. And it ain't really working out
38:30
Speaker 4: for her like that. And here comes Destney being authentic,
38:34
Speaker 4: showing us different layers and levels, and people are like
38:37
Speaker 4: fucking with her now been they were really was treating
38:40
Speaker 4: her like she was a non union extra before and
38:43
Speaker 4: now she's becoming number one on the call sheet. Seriously,
38:47
Speaker 4: that happens. That's the thing with these scripted I love
38:51
Speaker 4: this non union extra. Let me tell you something. Number
38:54
Speaker 4: one on the call sheet. If it's a Jamie Fox movie,
38:57
Speaker 4: he's number one on the call sheet, and then everybody
38:59
Speaker 4: else is under the right. So I think Latitia thought
39:02
Speaker 4: she was going to be that and then it's nothing
39:04
Speaker 4: worse than thinking, Okay, the big fishes out the way,
39:07
Speaker 4: so it's my turn now, and now it's not happening,
39:11
Speaker 4: because I feel like the issue she had is like,
39:13
Speaker 4: why is Destney supposed to be her protector when, like
39:17
Speaker 4: she said, her own husband is not, Like, why does
39:19
Speaker 4: Deathy have such a high bar but Destiny to clear
39:23
Speaker 4: And then Kimmy, I feel like, should have shut it
39:25
Speaker 4: down more because she was in the middle of all
39:27
Speaker 4: that stuff. Kimmy was trying to say no, well she
39:29
Speaker 4: wasn't really saying it like that, but I think Kimmy
39:31
Speaker 4: to be like, no, no, no, she was not shading you,
39:33
Speaker 4: you know. But I think that Letitia wanted a reason
39:36
Speaker 4: to have beef with Destiny because she thinks again, reality
39:40
Speaker 4: starts thinking the more I run my mouth and fight
39:42
Speaker 4: and fuss and fuss and fuss, the bigger I am
39:44
Speaker 4: on the show. Look, and by being less bother, well
39:48
Speaker 4: not really don't bothered, but being like, wait, what Deathney's
39:51
Speaker 4: given us? Common sense and Latitia right now, I'm sorry
39:54
Speaker 4: it's giving us a little delulu and the fact that
39:56
Speaker 4: she wants old girl to defend her so harsh, so hard.
40:00
Speaker 4: But you and a girl that called me, ah, I'm
40:02
Speaker 4: not defending ship.
40:06
Speaker 6: I just found out.
40:07
Speaker 4: She's very she has a very high standard for her friends,
40:10
Speaker 4: well for people a circle to beat to meet her at.
40:13
Speaker 4: But she's not applying that to herself. Once you call
40:16
Speaker 4: me a hole on TV, it's a wrap for ever,
40:19
Speaker 4: It's a forever for ever, like seriously, for a long time.
40:23
Speaker 4: So I don't know why she expects all this from
40:25
Speaker 4: destny when she's not willing to do it for others
40:27
Speaker 4: and she talks about the same person she wants to
40:29
Speaker 4: have her back.
40:30
Speaker 6: No, it's just a phrase. Whole was just a phrase.
40:33
Speaker 6: I didn't mean it.
40:35
Speaker 4: It's just a phrase that was crazy. Yeah, I just
40:40
Speaker 4: feel like Letitia really wants to be the star of
40:42
Speaker 4: the show, and I think she just assumed that she
40:44
Speaker 4: was just next in line and it's not really working
40:46
Speaker 4: out for like that. And I think she's going to
40:48
Speaker 4: get more frustrated as the season goes on. Calls, Am
40:51
Speaker 4: I right, does this happen?
40:53
Speaker 8: Please tell us I'm tired, Carlos, I'm tired of this
40:56
Speaker 8: lady being mad at herself.
40:58
Speaker 4: Ahull with a figure of speech.
41:02
Speaker 2: Like what I will say is.
41:12
Speaker 3: At the reunion, there is an accusation about something Claudia
41:20
Speaker 3: said in her five minute dire trop.
41:27
Speaker 4: Y'all, I got liquor and you're gonna get what you
41:29
Speaker 4: get now.
41:32
Speaker 6: New bottle, Claudia, Is that a new bottle?
41:35
Speaker 5: She got the four pack and be dry beyond. So
41:43
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest.
41:44
Speaker 7: I thought the whole axe to grind over being caught
41:47
Speaker 7: a hole was a bit of a reach because it
41:50
Speaker 7: ain't like the teacher was like destinyeds a hole. She
41:52
Speaker 7: was fucking everybody, you know what I'm saying, or like
41:55
Speaker 7: it was a slut accusation. She said Destiny said, oh
41:58
Speaker 7: really in woods By, so put in which box do
42:01
Speaker 7: you do? You put me in as a friend, and
42:03
Speaker 7: Latita was like, don't trust.
42:04
Speaker 5: That whole That's what it was.
42:07
Speaker 7: So now I'm not telling nobody how to feel about it,
42:10
Speaker 7: because don't call me nothing but my motherfucking name on
42:13
Speaker 7: everything I love. So I'm not telling nobody how to
42:15
Speaker 7: feel about it. But it's not like it was part
42:17
Speaker 7: of a you know, a rant or a slew of insults.
42:23
Speaker 7: She was using it in the same way that we've
42:25
Speaker 7: heard them talk to each other over the years that
42:27
Speaker 7: they've been on this show. So I think hitching your
42:30
Speaker 7: wagon to that is a bit of a reach. But again,
42:33
Speaker 7: I ain't tripping because don't call me nothing but Dustin
42:35
Speaker 7: or mister Ross. Second of all, Latitia came in that
42:40
Speaker 7: drag brunch ready for war. She literally had on a
42:43
Speaker 7: leopard print catsuit, skin tight, and she had fire red
42:47
Speaker 7: streaks in her hair that she was throwing from side
42:49
Speaker 7: to side all night.
42:50
Speaker 5: So she was feeling herself in a way that was fearal.
42:54
Speaker 5: It made her feel like a like like.
42:55
Speaker 7: She like a lion ass or a cheetah, you know
42:58
Speaker 7: what I'm saying. Like she was on that type of timing,
43:01
Speaker 7: especially when it came to Destiny. Remember in that scene,
43:04
Speaker 7: she didn't even want Destiny to hug her, so she
43:07
Speaker 7: was already acting funny style. Right, Destiny is winning because
43:12
Speaker 7: she's being one hundred percent authentic and staying one hundred
43:16
Speaker 7: percent present in the moment.
43:18
Speaker 5: Okay, that's the truth. That's why we're on Destiny's side
43:21
Speaker 5: right now.
43:22
Speaker 7: Destiny has not always held that positioning on this show,
43:25
Speaker 7: and it has advanced her to the most liked cast
43:29
Speaker 7: member very quickly because all she's doing is keeping it real.
43:33
Speaker 7: She's confused as to why Latitia has created this, just
43:38
Speaker 7: attached herself to this, this feeling that Destiny is not
43:42
Speaker 7: a good friend based on her not checking now which
43:45
Speaker 7: had nothing to do with Destiny. Now, it's so bad
43:48
Speaker 7: that Latitia is actually being cordial with Neil despite Destiny.
43:53
Speaker 5: Destiny has had it so she's maxing out.
43:56
Speaker 7: That's why we're literally, well, that's why it's so good
43:58
Speaker 7: to us because we're watching it happen at real time.
44:01
Speaker 7: We're watching her anger bill, we're watching the reasons why,
44:04
Speaker 7: so we're able to determine where this thing is going
44:06
Speaker 7: to go. And Destiny is reacting in a way that.
44:09
Speaker 5: We all can relate to because it's honest. That's why
44:12
Speaker 5: this is working. So shout out to Destiny.
44:14
Speaker 7: May you never hang on another Madonni door again, girl,
44:18
Speaker 7: because you have done your damn thing this season, and
44:20
Speaker 7: you did it naturally, and that's what made it so good,
44:23
Speaker 7: the story with her mother and her siblings, natural, honest, raw, brave,
44:28
Speaker 7: That's what made us that endeared us to her in
44:32
Speaker 7: a way that we have not been dared to her,
44:34
Speaker 7: thus firing this season, and I'm proud of her. She's
44:37
Speaker 7: having a great season. I think a lot of Claudia.
44:39
Speaker 7: What Claudia said is true. I do think Letitia assumed
44:43
Speaker 7: a positioning on this cast in Melody's absence.
44:45
Speaker 5: I believe that, and I believe that Letitia was surprised.
44:50
Speaker 7: At Destiny's prowess as a main cast member because she
44:54
Speaker 7: wasn't expecting Destiny to come out their bag together because
44:57
Speaker 7: they both was playing a game together on Melody.
45:00
Speaker 5: They can just really get deep. But I ain't even
45:01
Speaker 5: gonna take it there.
45:02
Speaker 7: But that's why she's surprised by Destiny piping up and
45:05
Speaker 7: reacting to her that way, because she thought she understood
45:09
Speaker 7: Destiny's capabilities and she utilized them to her benefit when
45:13
Speaker 7: she could against someone else. But we're talking about the
45:16
Speaker 7: present cast, and Destiny's winning by being honest and authentic,
45:20
Speaker 7: and that's why it's good.
45:22
Speaker 4: I also think the whole thing, like I know, it
45:23
Speaker 4: can be something that can be looked over, but I will.
45:25
Speaker 4: I just want to offer an opinion or a point.
45:29
Speaker 4: When you're the only single person on a cast, and
45:32
Speaker 4: it's like all married couples, you're already looked at like
45:35
Speaker 4: the enemy, and you're already assumed to be a whore.
45:37
Speaker 4: So that is definitely a little bit of a trigger.
45:40
Speaker 4: Like it's a little bit like I don't care if
45:42
Speaker 4: you're playing or not like you are, it's already assumed.
45:45
Speaker 4: Like a lot of times with these specialties couples down South,
45:48
Speaker 4: they be looking at you like you will harley, you
45:50
Speaker 4: a hussy, you hit a steal that man?
45:52
Speaker 6: Why ain't knowing? Whyfe you up with?
45:53
Speaker 4: Something must be wrong with you. You were slut from
45:55
Speaker 4: the nineties and your whatever. So I get why. I'm
45:59
Speaker 4: a I get it because it's happened. I can relate, say,
46:04
Speaker 4: like I get how they would she would be like, Okay,
46:08
Speaker 4: you may have been saying that like as a.
46:09
Speaker 5: Throwaway, but not but I didn't appreciate that ship. Yeah, yeah,
46:14
Speaker 5: it interesting.
46:17
Speaker 4: Yeah, because like you're in a couple of spaces. But
46:20
Speaker 4: it's like couples, the unmarried girl is like usually the
46:23
Speaker 4: girl that the husband I want you to hang out with,
46:25
Speaker 4: You're gonna be around niggas around her. I'm sorry, I
46:27
Speaker 4: don't want to get to DeMont test you're gonna be
46:29
Speaker 4: around single men and whatever, and they're gonna try to
46:33
Speaker 4: corrupt my wife. So you know I would hang on
46:38
Speaker 4: to that personally.
46:39
Speaker 8: I like that that you said that, Claudia, because they've
46:41
Speaker 8: already tried to make her seem like a whoreheart or
46:44
Speaker 8: are in previous iterations, and it failed because the point
46:48
Speaker 8: she was being authentic. Shout out to Destiny for just
46:50
Speaker 8: chouts to being a tourist, because we talk about areas
46:52
Speaker 8: a lot on the show. Shout out to the areas
46:53
Speaker 8: on the show.
46:54
Speaker 6: Taurists.
46:55
Speaker 8: Women are play the long game. We don't look for trouble,
46:58
Speaker 8: but we'll end it if you bring it, will end
47:01
Speaker 8: it right. And I think one of the things that
47:03
Speaker 8: makes me upset about this relationship is when do you
47:07
Speaker 8: have a friend who only likes it when you're down,
47:11
Speaker 8: but resents you when you're up, but with smiling on
47:13
Speaker 8: your face when you were down. That's some snake shit.
47:16
Speaker 8: That is some snake shit. When I have to shrink
47:18
Speaker 8: or be lesser than and you find me sympathetic but
47:21
Speaker 8: people don't like me, But as soon as anybody thinks
47:23
Speaker 8: I'm decent and the fans like me, suddenly you want
47:25
Speaker 8: to take me out.
47:26
Speaker 6: I don't like that.
47:27
Speaker 8: And I think what's happening with Destiny's confusion is she's
47:30
Speaker 8: like the thing that you're pretending to be mad about.
47:32
Speaker 8: Don't make no goddamn sense.
47:33
Speaker 2: You already know that.
47:34
Speaker 8: I think t Sha is allergic to logic, right, so
47:36
Speaker 8: it's either your pro logic or your pro te shirt.
47:38
Speaker 8: And as far as I'm concerned with this, but though,
47:41
Speaker 8: why do you need so badly to be mad at me?
47:43
Speaker 8: And I think we're watching in real time she's starting
47:46
Speaker 8: to clock you don't like that.
47:47
Speaker 6: I'm okay.
47:49
Speaker 8: There are certain friends who only have your back, or
47:51
Speaker 8: who only enjoy you when you're not okay, when they're
47:54
Speaker 8: calling you a hole, when they're saying you're dating too much,
47:56
Speaker 8: when they're making fun of you for a divorce. But
47:58
Speaker 8: as soon as you become calibrated, they feel a way
48:01
Speaker 8: because they only knew how to look down on you,
48:03
Speaker 8: not look across at you.
48:04
Speaker 6: I don't think she wanted to appear.
48:05
Speaker 8: I think she wanted somebody to look down at because
48:07
Speaker 8: she was looked down by Melody before, and she's like, well,
48:10
Speaker 8: in my mind, the power structure is the person on
48:12
Speaker 8: top can look down. I don't have the person supposed
48:14
Speaker 8: to be looking down at is looking across at me?
48:16
Speaker 8: How'd you get there? I think the positioning is offending
48:18
Speaker 8: her ego. I would have thought if I was, Oh,
48:24
Speaker 8: you know something in what Blues said also brought the reunion.
48:29
Speaker 4: God just desne When Definitely walked by her, I thought
48:33
Speaker 4: definitely was gonna go sneaker. I thought she was. She
48:36
Speaker 4: walked byre that was like a little show of I'm
48:38
Speaker 4: not chipping on you, how scared of you. I'm gonna
48:40
Speaker 4: walk right by you and your cat suit.
48:43
Speaker 7: And I also think that when Leticia when when Latitia said,
48:47
Speaker 7: when Destiny came back in right to check on to
48:50
Speaker 7: ask where Neil was, when Nail was deeply entrenched in
48:54
Speaker 7: that plate right.
48:57
Speaker 2: Part of the episode.
48:58
Speaker 7: I'm talking about that play had a magnet in it,
49:01
Speaker 7: and Neil had one in her face, like you know,
49:04
Speaker 7: but anyway, So but when Destiny walked back in and
49:07
Speaker 7: Latitia was like, you didn't have.
49:09
Speaker 5: To bring my husband up, and Destiny was like, shut
49:11
Speaker 5: the fuck up, you know what I'm saying.
49:13
Speaker 7: She was so mad and Laticia, who was still playing
49:17
Speaker 7: TV games, started walking up, Oh you cussing at me,
49:20
Speaker 7: Oh you cussing in me.
49:22
Speaker 5: That's why Kimmy got up the way she did. Kimmy
49:24
Speaker 5: was like, uh, Destiny.
49:26
Speaker 7: Basically, Kimmy's actions represented the thought that Destiny is for
49:30
Speaker 7: real and you playing a game in the scene right now,
49:33
Speaker 7: let me intervene before this thing gets off the rails.
49:37
Speaker 7: And Latitia wasn't receiving that. Don't grab me like that, Kimmy,
49:40
Speaker 7: and Kimmy was like, no, I'm will I will grabbed
49:43
Speaker 7: me like that.
49:44
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
49:44
Speaker 3: Like?
49:45
Speaker 7: That was why because Destiny was one hundred percent motherfucking
49:49
Speaker 7: dead as serious during that interaction, and that's why it
49:54
Speaker 7: was so good. Bravo to everybody involved. Great scene, and
49:57
Speaker 7: that's why wasn't Loving Marriage Hunts just awarded recently Best Yeah,
50:03
Speaker 7: I'm never I don't remember Best Recurring Cast.
50:06
Speaker 5: What awards was that, Carlos?
50:08
Speaker 6: Do we know?
50:09
Speaker 7: God whoever it was for the recognition because it was well,
50:13
Speaker 7: very well deserved. This cast is seasoned and they know
50:16
Speaker 7: what they're doing, and Destiny is the best proof of that.
50:20
Speaker 7: Can't believe I'm saying that, but it's the truth and
50:22
Speaker 7: we always going to do the truth. Destiny is the
50:24
Speaker 7: best representation of that because we've witnessed an evolution here. Okay,
50:29
Speaker 7: she ain't hanging off that door of Madonna no more. Okay,
50:32
Speaker 7: she's running shit and we love to see it because
50:35
Speaker 7: it's honest and well deserved.
50:37
Speaker 4: I think Dastney was down to fight, and I think
50:39
Speaker 4: Letitia was down.
50:40
Speaker 2: And running mount and talk to me too, me too.
50:43
Speaker 5: Friends.
50:44
Speaker 4: It seemed like Dalstan was like, touch me because she
50:47
Speaker 4: Even when you grave by someone, you get in this space.
50:50
Speaker 4: That is another that is you try to sir dominance
50:53
Speaker 4: and say I'm not afraid of you. I'm gonna walk
50:55
Speaker 4: right by you and have my back to you.
50:58
Speaker 5: Me too.
50:58
Speaker 7: That's why I hit people first when she like that happened.
51:01
Speaker 7: You know exactly, you know exactly what you're doing. You
51:04
Speaker 7: know exactly what you're doing, and you're doing that to
51:06
Speaker 7: test me, and so I'm about to take the test.
51:10
Speaker 5: That's why I always swing first in situations like that.
51:12
Speaker 5: I will let you job because you're doing it on purpose,
51:16
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
51:18
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't try an areas too, because we like to fight.
51:21
Speaker 5: We are the gods of war anyway.
51:24
Speaker 4: Literally, Yeah, Mars, we got a lot of Mars up
51:26
Speaker 4: in us.
51:27
Speaker 6: That's they saved that girl's life.
51:29
Speaker 8: I'm just saying her life was saved so many times
51:31
Speaker 8: in that episode in ways that she did not realize.
51:34
Speaker 4: Can I ask you all the question is a very
51:35
Speaker 4: serious question. I really need to know why am I
51:37
Speaker 4: the only one drunk? And I started way after y'all
51:41
Speaker 4: on a.
51:41
Speaker 6: Half, Claudia.
51:43
Speaker 7: And also you know that thutter Homescatto will take you
51:46
Speaker 7: there faster, that's college ship.
51:48
Speaker 4: Take me, yeah there, take me through that.
51:54
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find the name of the war, but
51:56
Speaker 3: I can't find it right now, but if it comes
51:58
Speaker 3: to me, I'll let you guys know.
51:59
Speaker 2: But yet the one best recurring cast and look the
52:02
Speaker 2: love a Marriice Hunter cast. I love them so much.
52:04
Speaker 3: They always deliver amazing television, Like you all said, shout
52:09
Speaker 3: out to Destiny and Tisha, the entire cast.
52:11
Speaker 2: It was an amazing episode.
52:13
Speaker 3: Shout out to nail Her Chicket kid Me for trying
52:16
Speaker 3: to simmer down the situation, and Trish for making reactions
52:20
Speaker 3: and setting the stage. So listen, it's only a few
52:24
Speaker 3: episodes left before our reunion comes up. And about the
52:29
Speaker 3: reunion is a lot of this dialogue actually gets brought
52:33
Speaker 3: up where one person.
52:35
Speaker 4: Did they fight?
52:37
Speaker 5: What's friend name? What's Tricia's friend's name? Carlos Aaron, Sharon,
52:43
Speaker 5: Sharon to the front.
52:45
Speaker 7: First of all, sharing is moving this story along, and
52:49
Speaker 7: that I don't even think she understands that she's doing.
52:52
Speaker 7: Shout out to the American Reality Television Awards and shout
52:55
Speaker 7: out to give it up for the cast of Love
52:57
Speaker 7: in Marriage Huntsville, the creator motherfucking Love and Hairs Loving
53:01
Speaker 7: Mary Hunsville.
53:04
Speaker 5: Congratulations, Carlos. That's a big deal.
53:07
Speaker 2: Man, So they all do that O make up?
53:11
Speaker 6: Oh, Claudia Lou you know, you know, you know the question.
53:19
Speaker 2: Honestly, I mean, very honest, I don't I want to
53:22
Speaker 2: say no. I want to say no that you can.
53:24
Speaker 4: Tell by looking, you can tell one face was not
53:28
Speaker 4: matching her next I'm not going to put it.
53:30
Speaker 6: When I'm blad, just blended, just blended.
53:34
Speaker 4: This was like it was, it was. I felt bad.
53:37
Speaker 4: I wanted to like just call you and be like,
53:39
Speaker 4: can you please give a budget for that.
53:42
Speaker 5: I'm not.
53:45
Speaker 4: I'm not putting a blast and I'm.
53:46
Speaker 3: Not gonna reality show and we'll get into real house
53:49
Speaker 3: points Atlanta next.
53:52
Speaker 4: Atlanta. We had to do our own for the scenes,
53:54
Speaker 4: but the jack. You have provided the best of the.
53:58
Speaker 2: Best and that's the way works.
54:00
Speaker 3: But I also know that the girls take it upon
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