Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: 2 Chainz Opens Up About Purpose, His Father & The Voice In His Head
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day a week ago, clicks up the Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: You don't finished for y'all done morning.
- 0:07Speaker 3: Everybody's d J n V. Just hilarious.
- 0:10Speaker 4: Charlamagne the guy we are the breakfast Club law the
- 0:12Speaker 4: Roses here as well.
- 0:13Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Indeed, what.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Are y'all doing? Good morning? You and the family came
- 0:21Speaker 1: ready to be cold. Listen, you was just waiting on
- 0:25Speaker 1: your little.
- 0:27Speaker 5: Because I watched the other interview. You can't get one
- 0:30Speaker 5: in right. He was so serious the whole time. So
- 0:32Speaker 5: you know, I rock with your police. I mean, yeah,
- 0:38Speaker 5: we we were. We just left in a you circuit
- 0:41Speaker 5: with my son and we was in Cincinnati and they
- 0:43Speaker 5: said it was gonna be cold there, but it wasn't freezing.
- 0:45Speaker 1: But when we came to New York it was cold.
- 0:47Speaker 4: That is the only day too, because the rest of
- 0:49Speaker 4: the week we're getting like sixty to seventy degrees.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Today is the only day you can wear that.
- 0:53Speaker 5: Bliss you because it's cold. It's my room, it's coold
- 0:57Speaker 5: new book.
- 0:58Speaker 6: The voice in my head is God. I want to
- 0:59Speaker 6: ask what was the intention behind the outfit this morning?
- 1:01Speaker 6: Because then the bury me inside the Louis store chapter.
- 1:04Speaker 6: You say, every outfit has an intention, So what's what's
- 1:07Speaker 6: the energy other than it was cold?
- 1:09Speaker 5: That's the energy that And it's like where else can
- 1:12Speaker 5: you wear like the hat in it? And you know,
- 1:14Speaker 5: I can't get this off in Atlanta, so this will
- 1:17Speaker 5: be the place. And I don't live in Canada, so
- 1:18Speaker 5: this will be the place. Tell you, man, what's happening.
- 1:26Speaker 4: The voice in my head is God new book that's
- 1:28Speaker 4: out today. Make sure you go get it if you
- 1:30Speaker 4: haven't got it yet. Why was it the time to
- 1:32Speaker 4: write this book?
- 1:35Speaker 5: I just think that success without reflection is just noise.
- 1:40Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, success without giving back is noise.
- 1:43Speaker 5: So I'm feeling successful. I think when you live long
- 1:49Speaker 5: enough to experience scars, when you want enough to have
- 1:55Speaker 5: the wisdom, you know, then it's time to write a
- 1:58Speaker 5: book in my personal opinions, so.
- 2:02Speaker 1: You know, growth, maturation me.
- 2:07Speaker 5: You know talking about are you talking about God in
- 2:09Speaker 5: this book through my personal experiences?
- 2:12Speaker 1: You know?
- 2:13Speaker 5: So I just felt like, after you do for me,
- 2:17Speaker 5: I've done the albums, I've shot my short feelm and
- 2:21Speaker 5: I'm just ready to take more creative risks. And so
- 2:25Speaker 5: this doesn't feel like a risk because I feel like
- 2:28Speaker 5: this could this could motivate someone, this could help someone.
- 2:33Speaker 5: It's not generic, it's not cliche. I hadn't seen any
- 2:38Speaker 5: other artists talk about, you know, intuition in the book space,
- 2:43Speaker 5: so just.
- 2:45Speaker 4: You know, I wanted to on to one thing, the
- 2:48Speaker 4: biggest thing. Everybody takes a different part of what they
- 2:51Speaker 4: feel that they get out of the book.
- 2:52Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:53Speaker 4: For myself is your relationship with your dad. And the
- 2:57Speaker 4: reason I say that is I have said and I'm
- 3:00Speaker 4: always very intentional of what I say to my kids, right,
- 3:03Speaker 4: because there's a line between being a dad and it's
- 3:06Speaker 4: a line with being a human being.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:09Speaker 3: And I'll explain.
- 3:10Speaker 4: So with that relationship with your dad, was there I
- 3:14Speaker 4: know your dad moved in with you. Was those tough
- 3:16Speaker 4: conversations to have from to start him being incarcerated to
- 3:20Speaker 4: even at one time when when you know, when you
- 3:23Speaker 4: got into that incident in Alabama and your dad said,
- 3:25Speaker 4: well go get a gun and go handle yourself. You know,
- 3:28Speaker 4: how would those conversations had because I'm sure you wouldn't
- 3:30Speaker 4: tell your kids that same thing, or would you.
- 3:35Speaker 5: That's a good question, you know, Well, I think everybody
- 3:40Speaker 5: in here have lived through different eras, and you know
- 3:44Speaker 5: I'm from the boys don't cry era You.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. I'm from the that's weak, that's soft.
- 3:51Speaker 5: My dad would say numerous amount of times that he
- 3:54Speaker 5: don't think a woman could raise a man, but he
- 3:57Speaker 5: wouldn't be there, you know what I'm saying out to be.
- 4:01Speaker 5: I mean, I can't change oil, change tires and stuff
- 4:07Speaker 5: like that. You know what I'm saying, Like somebody might
- 4:09Speaker 5: consider some man stuff, but I've cut the grass and
- 4:11Speaker 5: done stuff like that, as y'all know recently. So I mean,
- 4:15Speaker 5: when I think about it's like he wasn't there to
- 4:17Speaker 5: teach me certain things that a man should know. And
- 4:20Speaker 5: I learned a lot of things on my own. And
- 4:23Speaker 5: you know, he was my first hero. He's my first
- 4:25Speaker 5: somebody you look up to, whether he was in constantraate
- 4:28Speaker 5: or just me hearing stories about him and me just
- 4:31Speaker 5: realizing that that DNA is inside of me. So what
- 4:34Speaker 5: I passed that on? I think I broke that that
- 4:36Speaker 5: way of thinking. I think it stopped with me. You know,
- 4:41Speaker 5: I'm very you know, I'm not lenient to why I'm like, man,
- 4:46Speaker 5: you can cry anytime, you won't, But if my son
- 4:50Speaker 5: needs to cry about something that's bothered him or hurt
- 4:52Speaker 5: and I'm not like getting all over him about it.
- 4:55Speaker 5: So I think it's just timing and where we are
- 4:59Speaker 5: in life right now. I don't know how you are
- 5:00Speaker 5: with your kids. But I'm a little bit more sensitive
- 5:03Speaker 5: to my kids, of course than my father was to me,
- 5:06Speaker 5: because he wanted me to be tough. He didn't I
- 5:08Speaker 5: hear stories my eyes tell me like if I would cry,
- 5:11Speaker 5: he didn't want nobody to pick me up.
- 5:13Speaker 1: I don't have Like.
- 5:16Speaker 5: It's some baby pictures, but like all my baby pictures,
- 5:18Speaker 5: I'm sitting somewhere my mom beside me. She's not like
- 5:20Speaker 5: holding me, like you know what I'm saying. Like one
- 5:23Speaker 5: of the pictures I remember is like at the beach,
- 5:24Speaker 5: I'm sitting on the hood of a car. I'm like
- 5:26Speaker 5: not even one, and my mom got on a baby suit.
- 5:29Speaker 1: She right beside me.
- 5:29Speaker 5: But it's not really like a picture someone colling me
- 5:32Speaker 5: or anything.
- 5:33Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm okay with that.
- 5:35Speaker 7: What did you learn about your own feelings throughout the
- 5:37Speaker 7: whole experience with your dad, so being able to spend
- 5:40Speaker 7: time with him and him moving in with you to
- 5:42Speaker 7: his passing, because you talk about it very stoically at first,
- 5:45Speaker 7: and then you talk up and then you we actually
- 5:48Speaker 7: get to hear you talk about finally being able to
- 5:50Speaker 7: cry and being able to like kind of get in
- 5:52Speaker 7: tune with yourself a bit.
- 5:54Speaker 5: Yeah, well, his last his last few years, I said,
- 6:00Speaker 5: I talk about talk talk about it in the book.
- 6:03Speaker 1: Excuse me.
- 6:04Speaker 5: He's getting out of prison, and you know, he's in
- 6:07Speaker 5: his late sixties, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
- 6:09Speaker 5: don't know, they might have been seventy something.
- 6:11Speaker 1: So when I go get.
- 6:12Speaker 5: Him, you know, that's when I had a conversation about, man,
- 6:16Speaker 5: you ought to move with me, Like this is just
- 6:17Speaker 5: crazy at this point, you know what I'm saying. And
- 6:19Speaker 5: the last time he did time he was probably two
- 6:21Speaker 5: or three years. But I just felt like it was time.
- 6:23Speaker 1: I had my.
- 6:24Speaker 5: First child and I had a house, and so, you know,
- 6:28Speaker 5: I remember stopping and getting him. He wanted to suit,
- 6:31Speaker 5: and then I remember stopping at a rise and he
- 6:33Speaker 5: wanted the phone, and he had some money, he had
- 6:39Speaker 5: a little money put up, you know somewhere, and we
- 6:41Speaker 5: just talked and he he said that he would, you know,
- 6:45Speaker 5: he would, you know, think about it, and he ended
- 6:47Speaker 5: up eventually just you know, staying with me, which was
- 6:49Speaker 5: really cool. It was like we started building that relationship.
- 6:52Speaker 5: You know, I was so fond of him from a
- 6:54Speaker 5: distance because you know, when I was young, we got separated.
- 6:57Speaker 5: So just being in the same house, me learning his
- 7:00Speaker 5: little crazy ways and his sarcasm and everything, and so
- 7:05Speaker 5: you know, after he started getting sick, I was going
- 7:08Speaker 5: I was starting at like this was like twenty twelve.
- 7:10Speaker 1: My dad died in twenty twelve. My first album came
- 7:12Speaker 1: out of twenty twelve.
- 7:12Speaker 5: I was just so hot at the time, and so
- 7:16Speaker 5: Keisha would tell me, like, man, you know your dad didn't.
- 7:19Speaker 1: Eat the day or he needn't do something. She just
- 7:21Speaker 1: tell me, you know what I mean.
- 7:22Speaker 5: And he was somebody that didn't want nobody to know
- 7:24Speaker 5: he was sick. He like such a man, he don't
- 7:27Speaker 5: want you to know he going through nothing, which is ridiculous.
- 7:30Speaker 5: And he went to the hospital one night, you know
- 7:32Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I end up going up there with him.
- 7:34Speaker 5: I ended up staying with him. I got it like
- 7:35Speaker 5: I just stayed with him for like a week or two,
- 7:37Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And I have shows that
- 7:39Speaker 5: I end up counseling. But I had this one particular
- 7:41Speaker 5: show in Savannah, which is like, I don't know, a
- 7:43Speaker 5: couple hours from Atlanta. And I'm talking to him and
- 7:48Speaker 5: I'm like, I got this show in Atlanta. You're gonna
- 7:49Speaker 5: be cool tonight. You're like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be cool.
- 7:51Speaker 5: And then he says, you know, dope man, my role model.
- 7:54Speaker 5: I had a song called dope Man, my role Model
- 7:56Speaker 5: my mixtape. So he's so sarcast I'm like, bro, you straight,
- 7:59Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. He gives me a fist
- 8:00Speaker 5: bump and says, do it big Apps, that's.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Our last name. I said, Okay, cool. I go to Savannah.
- 8:08Speaker 5: I don't even get the room I come back when
- 8:10Speaker 5: I when I come back here on his breathing thing,
- 8:12Speaker 5: I see it like boom, but I see him he
- 8:14Speaker 5: like looking at me.
- 8:15Speaker 1: I feel like he looking at me, you know what
- 8:16Speaker 1: I mean.
- 8:17Speaker 5: While he's on his breathing thing, and he keep trying
- 8:20Speaker 5: to take the two by the throat and they keep
- 8:22Speaker 5: saying like if you if he takes that out, he
- 8:25Speaker 5: could he could die.
- 8:27Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 8:27Speaker 5: So if he take that out, he can die. Now
- 8:29Speaker 5: now rewind this. I just got my part from prison.
- 8:31Speaker 5: So they saying the only way that he cannot take
- 8:33Speaker 5: it out is if they handcuff him to the bed.
- 8:36Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 8:37Speaker 5: So I say, okay, handcuff, and then I get to
- 8:40Speaker 5: thinking like something is telling me, like he don't want
- 8:44Speaker 5: to be handcuffed no more, you know what I'm saying.
- 8:46Speaker 5: So he handcuffed the bed. He looking at me and
- 8:50Speaker 5: his shit, you know, he's breathing. And I said, all right, man,
- 8:53Speaker 5: you know, take the handcuff. I'll take that and take
- 8:54Speaker 5: it off. Man, he don't want to be handcuffed. But
- 8:56Speaker 5: soon as the handcuff come off, he come to try
- 8:58Speaker 5: to take that and they tell me if he take
- 9:00Speaker 5: it out it could scratch his and so and so
- 9:06Speaker 5: I swear to you I do that four times. Okay,
- 9:09Speaker 5: put the handcuffs back on, take the handcuffs back off.
- 9:13Speaker 5: Put the handcuffs back on them. And it's like he
- 9:16Speaker 5: just he's not looking straight home, looking to the side
- 9:19Speaker 5: like this, you know what I mean. So I try
- 9:21Speaker 5: to hold his hands myself personally, like you know what
- 9:24Speaker 5: I'm saying.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Not chill, you know what I'm saying, Just chill keep
- 9:29Speaker 1: you know.
- 9:29Speaker 5: And then you know a couple of days after that
- 9:32Speaker 5: or not even a day after that. You know what
- 9:33Speaker 5: I'm saying that the beets start going off. You know
- 9:35Speaker 5: what I'm saying. By me staying with him and the nurses,
- 9:37Speaker 5: I'm able to run, go, get the nurse. You know
- 9:39Speaker 5: what I'm saying, check it out. And they same thing
- 9:42Speaker 5: four times. Boom bom boom they hit them, bring them back.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Thank y'all, nurse.
- 9:47Speaker 1: They walk out the room.
- 9:49Speaker 5: Man, man, look, man, don't you be doing Run out again?
- 9:53Speaker 5: Boomom do that the fourth time. Now they put me
- 9:57Speaker 5: out the room. So I'm looking through the the little window.
- 10:00Speaker 5: And so the fourth time, the lady come out and
- 10:02Speaker 5: she says, you know, I lost my father to if
- 10:06Speaker 5: he come back now, he'll be brain dead. We already
- 10:08Speaker 5: broke two ribs. You just gotta let it go. And
- 10:10Speaker 5: I was like, that's easier say it than done, because
- 10:12Speaker 5: he just told me. Not only did he tell me
- 10:15Speaker 5: do it big, he told me before I went to Savannah,
- 10:17Speaker 5: I'm not gonna die no time soon. It came out
- 10:19Speaker 5: of his mouth and a he never told him no lot.
- 10:21Speaker 5: So I'm like, what happened from the time I went
- 10:23Speaker 5: to Savanna came back? But anyway, That's something that I
- 10:26Speaker 5: wouldn't say haunted or traumatized me. I know you're big
- 10:30Speaker 5: on therapy or whatever, and like this book is my therapy,
- 10:32Speaker 5: like certain things I do is my therapy. I hadn't
- 10:34Speaker 5: actually sat down with someone, and I'm not against people
- 10:37Speaker 5: who who do or who have. But is it traumatic
- 10:42Speaker 5: seeing your father passed? It could be, yeah, But then
- 10:49Speaker 5: like a few years later, I had a son who
- 10:53Speaker 5: reminds me so much of like how he moves and
- 10:56Speaker 5: his sarcasm as well.
- 10:58Speaker 6: So questions based on what you just said, did reliving
- 11:01Speaker 6: that for the book make you cry again? Because you
- 11:03Speaker 6: said that was the first time you remember crying when man,
- 11:05Speaker 6: I cried so hard when that happened. I was listening,
- 11:08Speaker 6: I think, I even I'm trying to think about so
- 11:11Speaker 6: I might listen to it was a song, but not
- 11:15Speaker 6: when I was doing it in the book, because I'm
- 11:16Speaker 6: just I didn't.
- 11:17Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't cry while writing the book. I
- 11:21Speaker 5: think because I've relived that so many times. It wasn't
- 11:24Speaker 5: like I buried it and then just brought it back
- 11:26Speaker 5: up like I relived my pots passing in front of me.
- 11:30Speaker 5: You know I've done that a few times.
- 11:32Speaker 1: So I think.
- 11:33Speaker 5: And then also I see now me talking about it, it
- 11:36Speaker 5: just becomes easier to talk about.
- 11:37Speaker 1: You know, when you keep stuff bottle again or whatever.
- 11:40Speaker 6: And when you said when Halo was born in the book,
- 11:44Speaker 6: you I got to see the picture. That's I just
- 11:46Speaker 6: got to see the picture. You said you got the picture.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm just trying to show you.
- 11:50Speaker 6: I want to see the picture. You said it was
- 11:52Speaker 6: a picture of your father. The alarm went off in that,
- 11:55Speaker 6: all right, So don't even tell the story. I just
- 11:57Speaker 6: show you that.
- 11:59Speaker 4: It's hard to discussed this book because it's so much
- 12:01Speaker 4: that you want people to read and see for themselves.
- 12:03Speaker 6: He just gave away, but it was worth it.
- 12:07Speaker 1: So this this picture, all right, we'll explain. All right,
- 12:11Speaker 1: So this is all right, so let's talk about it.
- 12:16Speaker 5: So, my son, Halo was born ten fourteen fifteen, Right,
- 12:24Speaker 5: me and Keisha was in the hospital, and my mom
- 12:27Speaker 5: and my two daughters was at home and they were
- 12:30Speaker 5: in our room in the master bedroom. Right, the alarm
- 12:33Speaker 5: went off at home while Halo was coming. The alarm
- 12:38Speaker 5: went off same time. So why Keisha having Halo the
- 12:41Speaker 5: alarm going off and my mom is asking me, what's
- 12:44Speaker 5: the past? Word to tell the alarm people because it's
- 12:47Speaker 5: saying motion in the house or whatever. Now my mom
- 12:49Speaker 5: is on the phone saying, I swear, and I'm looking
- 12:52Speaker 5: at the cameras and I don't see anything coming into
- 12:56Speaker 5: the house.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I don't see the doors. I'm looking at all the doors.
- 12:59Speaker 5: My mom said, I hadn't left the room, so I
- 13:01Speaker 5: don't know why the motion going off. I tell of
- 13:03Speaker 5: the code it goes off. We have halo, we come home,
- 13:07Speaker 5: all right, We're getting our alarm updated. And then Keisha
- 13:11Speaker 5: looks at her email. And when you have motion, it
- 13:16Speaker 5: takes pictures. It takes snapshots of what the motion is.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Okay, when we.
- 13:22Speaker 5: Looked at the motion, you can see you can see somebody,
- 13:27Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And it was my It
- 13:28Speaker 5: was my father. Now my father left in twenty twelve.
- 13:31Speaker 5: This was twenty fifteen. You can see an image. So wow,
- 13:36Speaker 5: people that I'm close to a couple of friends, I'm close.
- 13:37Speaker 5: So I showing a picture. I'm like, who is it? Like,
- 13:40Speaker 5: that's part right there. I'm like, look at the date
- 13:42Speaker 5: and like my friends begetting big old chill goosebumps or whatever.
- 13:45Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 13:45Speaker 5: My father used to walk around the house like with
- 13:47Speaker 5: his shirt off. He was in good shape to be seventy.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Like. He wasn't like fast and slop. He was in
- 13:52Speaker 1: the arm and so he had something.
- 13:53Speaker 5: But I'm gonna find and so another thing about this,
- 13:56Speaker 5: and this is my personal opinion. He's so sarcastic that
- 14:00Speaker 5: when I used to try to show people, I could
- 14:02Speaker 5: not find a picture.
- 14:04Speaker 8: M hm.
- 14:04Speaker 5: So I gave a picture to Keisha. I said, Keisha,
- 14:08Speaker 5: when I try to show people, that makes it sound
- 14:10Speaker 5: like I'm crazy. I don't have a picture. So we
- 14:13Speaker 5: go to Florida one time. I'm not even looking back there.
- 14:15Speaker 5: I know she knows I talking about I go to
- 14:16Speaker 5: Florida one time. I don't got the picture them. I
- 14:19Speaker 5: can't find what happened in Florida. You remember.
- 14:26Speaker 7: Whatever.
- 14:31Speaker 5: Anyway, anyway, my phone fell in was She probably don't
- 14:34Speaker 5: remember this, but she does remember this when I said this.
- 14:36Speaker 5: But we was on a boat. We got off a
- 14:37Speaker 5: boat and then her phone down there fell in the water.
- 14:42Speaker 5: And when my phone fell in the water, I said, damn,
- 14:44Speaker 5: that's all. I don't think about the context. I'm like,
- 14:47Speaker 5: this is my proof, this is my proof that golds
- 14:51Speaker 5: are real.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Or whatever. You know what I mean. Boom.
- 14:53Speaker 5: Okay, So I get to looking because I know exactly
- 14:56Speaker 5: when the date was, because I know when Halo was born.
- 14:58Speaker 5: I pull up the picture again. So now I got it.
- 15:01Speaker 5: So I give it to my cousin I'm always with
- 15:03Speaker 5: outside cat. I gave it the cat like cat, you
- 15:05Speaker 5: keep this picture?
- 15:06Speaker 1: Boom. So this is crazy.
- 15:09Speaker 5: So this is I go over the back in the day,
- 15:12Speaker 5: I go over to the Yate house, right, and I'm telling
- 15:14Speaker 5: him the same story. I'm like, bro, this has happened
- 15:17Speaker 5: to me. I'm trying to tell him what happened. And
- 15:19Speaker 5: this is man, you know, I'm the coolest player in
- 15:21Speaker 5: the world. Man, it's like food around It's like lemonade,
- 15:26Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So I can't find a picture,
- 15:28Speaker 5: so I say, cat, cat with my tother come in, man,
- 15:30Speaker 5: give me the picture of popus mess. I can show
- 15:32Speaker 5: while he giving me the picture, Bro, I'll knock over
- 15:34Speaker 5: a big thing of lemonade everywhere on everybody. Like you
- 15:38Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I'm such a player. I ain't
- 15:39Speaker 5: never done nothing like that, you know what I'm saying.
- 15:41Speaker 5: So in my mind, I'm like, bro, this is how
- 15:43Speaker 5: my dad is he like be on some joking. So
- 15:45Speaker 5: you got me looking crazy here. I don't waste lemonade
- 15:48Speaker 5: on everybody the table. This ain't even nothing I do,
- 15:50Speaker 5: you know what I mean? But anyway, that's another story.
- 15:52Speaker 5: Let me find a picture all right right here? Let
- 15:56Speaker 5: me see I email myself so at one loute. Okay,
- 16:01Speaker 5: this is not why he's looking.
- 16:04Speaker 4: Why he's looking at the picture the book on to
- 16:08Speaker 4: change dot com.
- 16:09Speaker 3: You have a chance to win.
- 16:10Speaker 5: Courts to change book to change book dot com. To
- 16:13Speaker 5: change book, go to changebook dot com. I do gotta
- 16:15Speaker 5: sweepstakes for people. They can sit next to me at
- 16:17Speaker 5: a Hawks game. Yeah you know, uh, of course that
- 16:21Speaker 5: I'm very close. I come in through the owner's lounge.
- 16:23Speaker 5: It's a whole experience. I do have this little uh
- 16:28Speaker 5: side note this disclaimer. Women, I'm gonna be smelling good.
- 16:33Speaker 5: I'm gonna be looking good. If you have a crazy
- 16:35Speaker 5: man at home, articulate that to him. Men, I'm not
- 16:42Speaker 5: gonna be talking through the whole game. Right, we can talk,
- 16:47Speaker 5: but I'm gonna really be watching the game.
- 16:48Speaker 2: A rapper win. I hope somebody trying to make.
- 16:50Speaker 9: It trying to like you. You sing all your songs
- 16:56Speaker 9: the whole time.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Can you get that picture because you know I'm trying
- 16:59Speaker 1: to show them and you know what's going on. Up
- 17:02Speaker 1: hop up if you see anything, Oh.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I see something in the picure?
- 17:14Speaker 1: Can wait only he h m hm.
- 17:20Speaker 3: So question for you, right, Charlamagne. Believe you by the way,
- 17:23Speaker 3: but you can see Charlemagne face.
- 17:25Speaker 1: You know I ain't.
- 17:26Speaker 3: But the reason that because that happened to him in
- 17:27Speaker 3: Prince he took.
- 17:30Speaker 2: This is a spirit.
- 17:33Speaker 3: He took a picture and the picture I want to are.
- 17:35Speaker 7: You okay what I've seen it? Okay? Oh wow, that's
- 17:39Speaker 7: a whole person. Yes, I thought it was going to
- 17:42Speaker 7: be like not that.
- 17:44Speaker 5: How you used to walk around the shirt walking that's
- 17:46Speaker 5: him walking through the kitchen.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Wow.
- 17:48Speaker 7: I know you're saying the book too that you feel like,
- 17:50Speaker 7: until you had your son, your dad hadn't like crossed
- 17:53Speaker 7: over to the other side.
- 17:54Speaker 1: That's my assumption, right, this is my mom.
- 17:55Speaker 5: My mom is super, super spiritual, right, so she was
- 17:58Speaker 5: probably like, you know, he probably come to fuck with
- 18:01Speaker 5: me before you know what I mean, probably come over
- 18:03Speaker 5: to the fuck with me, just you know what I mean.
- 18:05Speaker 1: That's how she kicked the light before he left. But
- 18:07Speaker 1: so the.
- 18:08Speaker 7: Voices that you were hearing there, because I know you
- 18:09Speaker 7: have been hearing voices in your head and hearing God
- 18:11Speaker 7: for a long time. Do you know which ones might
- 18:13Speaker 7: have been your Dad because he was there with you,
- 18:15Speaker 7: or it was the God connection that you haven't you
- 18:18Speaker 7: hear in God during that word?
- 18:19Speaker 5: So this experience right here, when this happened, this would
- 18:24Speaker 5: have been twenty fifteen. I'm not even sure if I
- 18:27Speaker 5: was fully committed to just given the voice. It's credit
- 18:35Speaker 5: for my success. Now, That's why I said when he
- 18:38Speaker 5: asked me when it's timeing to write a book, It's
- 18:39Speaker 5: like I've lived and had enough experience in trial and
- 18:42Speaker 5: error with listening not listening, moving through fear, moving through
- 18:46Speaker 5: ego to let you know, like this voice, it got
- 18:50Speaker 5: to be God. The reason I call it the voice
- 18:53Speaker 5: of God because the voice would be like my intuition,
- 18:55Speaker 5: it would be my my my alignment. You know what
- 18:59Speaker 5: I'm saying that that's what the voice. But when I
- 19:01Speaker 5: say God, I know everybody's not into God. But I
- 19:04Speaker 5: had to give the credit to somebody higher than myself.
- 19:08Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, for this superpower, whatever the
- 19:10Speaker 5: hell like for me, I got a real picture of
- 19:13Speaker 5: my dad three years after he passed. Like, this is
- 19:15Speaker 5: not something and I don't. It's my first time ever
- 19:18Speaker 5: ever talking about it, feeling comfortable talking about it, showing
- 19:22Speaker 5: somebody that I feel like is understands like a deeper
- 19:27Speaker 5: mean of like spirits and everything, like because I don't
- 19:30Speaker 5: fully understand.
- 19:32Speaker 1: My father.
- 19:34Speaker 5: You know, you see they be like people come to
- 19:36Speaker 5: you in dreams, people you know, do stuff like that.
- 19:39Speaker 5: I can't say that he did that, you know what
- 19:42Speaker 5: I'm saying, But I can tell you that I do
- 19:44Speaker 5: have a divine guidance in me that helps me make decisions,
- 19:50Speaker 5: whether it's business decisions, relationship decisions, whatever it is. And
- 19:55Speaker 5: it's a voice that could probably be too noisy to
- 19:58Speaker 5: certain people, but I welcome that voice. So this book
- 20:04Speaker 5: is I put this book together to help somebody and
- 20:08Speaker 5: to motivate somebody to shut down the outside noise. And
- 20:11Speaker 5: this is also for anybody who's ever said, like something
- 20:14Speaker 5: told me, like something told me to get this job,
- 20:16Speaker 5: wear this hat, or whatever it is. It's like it's
- 20:19Speaker 5: that something told me thing. You know what I'm saying
- 20:21Speaker 5: is that or something told me don't go to this
- 20:24Speaker 5: place and this happened, something told me don't whatever it is,
- 20:27Speaker 5: you know, and we've all said that when we missed
- 20:28Speaker 5: the flight, Well that's God trying to Maybe I wasn't
- 20:31Speaker 5: supposed to get on it, you know what I mean.
- 20:33Speaker 5: So why can't that inner dialogue be that? Why if
- 20:37Speaker 5: they say God is inside of you, and why can't
- 20:39Speaker 5: your blessings come from within on how you are on
- 20:42Speaker 5: the surface. You're a positive person on the surface, then
- 20:45Speaker 5: your blessings coming with it. This is my experience, this
- 20:48Speaker 5: is my opinion.
- 20:48Speaker 4: So what do you trust that voice though? Because you
- 20:50Speaker 4: talk about in the book many times when you didn't
- 20:52Speaker 4: trust that voice. You heard it and you were like, nah.
- 20:55Speaker 5: You got to be you got to go through the
- 20:57Speaker 5: experience right to see, like what was that for.
- 21:00Speaker 3: You that said I need to start trusting this voice.
- 21:05Speaker 5: I don't want to use like a tragic experience experience,
- 21:12Speaker 5: but like the voice comes before something happens, right, So
- 21:16Speaker 5: it's hard to like pay at attention because you don't
- 21:20Speaker 5: know what's about to happen.
- 21:21Speaker 1: Alabama, you know what I'm saying.
- 21:22Speaker 5: Alabama, my Cali experience, these different experiences that I had,
- 21:26Speaker 5: I felt something I did, I put this on everything
- 21:28Speaker 5: I felt something, something told me, you know what I'm saying,
- 21:32Speaker 5: but you don't have.
- 21:33Speaker 1: A crystal ball in order to see it.
- 21:35Speaker 5: So that's why I'm using all these experiences in the
- 21:39Speaker 5: book to tell you, like how I listen and maybe
- 21:42Speaker 5: then fully you know what I mean, not just what
- 21:45Speaker 5: was going on or when I did, and that positive
- 21:48Speaker 5: outcomes that came from them. You know, I woke up
- 21:51Speaker 5: sometimes to be like something told I need to do
- 21:53Speaker 5: this today.
- 21:53Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I do that a lot.
- 21:54Speaker 5: Actually, you know what I mean, And it's just a
- 21:58Speaker 5: message I'm just trying to bring the people.
- 22:00Speaker 6: The book is about God and you first recognized in
- 22:02Speaker 6: that voice, But to me, it's also a love letter
- 22:04Speaker 6: to your mom and your pop. So so when did
- 22:06Speaker 6: you first recognize God in them?
- 22:10Speaker 1: Mom?
- 22:12Speaker 5: Church going, still go, just went yesterday? Mom went yesterday.
- 22:16Speaker 5: I checked on her, uh my part. When he was
- 22:19Speaker 5: in prison, he wrote which is which helped me come up.
- 22:21Speaker 1: With the title too.
- 22:22Speaker 5: He used to write God is Love on the back
- 22:24Speaker 5: of his prison letters, and one day I took the
- 22:26Speaker 5: got the ears out and I put an equal sign
- 22:29Speaker 5: like God he is Love. So I was like, it
- 22:33Speaker 5: just made so much sense to me because if it's
- 22:35Speaker 5: love there, then it's God there. That's what I think.
- 22:37Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And it was hey, there,
- 22:39Speaker 5: then I can't be God. And that's how I decipher
- 22:41Speaker 5: what that voice was. So yeah, I've had that that
- 22:44Speaker 5: kind of spiritual upbringing, like i'm'a. I'm'a. I'm from a
- 22:47Speaker 5: praying family. You know what I'm saying. I encourage my
- 22:49Speaker 5: kids to pray, So it's something I believe in and
- 22:53Speaker 5: I talk. I pray before my show, I pray before
- 22:55Speaker 5: I rap at night.
- 22:56Speaker 1: Bruh.
- 22:56Speaker 5: I just you know what I'm saying. I just be
- 22:58Speaker 5: praying sometime. I be praying on stage when I'm killing it.
- 23:01Speaker 5: I look up, man, think you know, think, man, you
- 23:04Speaker 5: ain't nobody you know what I mean, because it's just
- 23:07Speaker 5: a certain order you get when you when you tapped in,
- 23:09Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
- 23:10Speaker 9: Real And you said you always wanted to write a book.
- 23:12Speaker 9: Did you think that it would be this?
- 23:14Speaker 1: No? No?
- 23:15Speaker 5: But you know most artists they do an autobiography and
- 23:19Speaker 5: then they talk about how they have nothing to eat.
- 23:21Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Artists are the poorest. You
- 23:28Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
- 23:29Speaker 5: Nothing, no education, no nothing, no I finished high school,
- 23:34Speaker 5: I have a college degree. I don't be on none
- 23:36Speaker 5: of that, you know what I'm saying. And I still
- 23:37Speaker 5: have my struggles that I deal with, and so when
- 23:40Speaker 5: it was time for me to do the book, I
- 23:43Speaker 5: wanted to be in my own lane like I do
- 23:45Speaker 5: with anything else. If you all noticed, I don't following
- 23:48Speaker 5: over really no trends. I'm so comfortable in my skin,
- 23:50Speaker 5: it's it's scary sometimes.
- 23:54Speaker 6: M I know you said you don't need therapy, but
- 23:58Speaker 6: you've been in some real life ramatic situations like you
- 24:01Speaker 6: just named two of them, Alabama.
- 24:03Speaker 2: The Cali one.
- 24:03Speaker 6: I didn't even know it went to that where he
- 24:06Speaker 6: was standing over you and all of that. I don't
- 24:08Speaker 6: know why I never've heard that part of the story.
- 24:09Speaker 6: But it's any out of that impact the way you move.
- 24:12Speaker 2: Like now, well.
- 24:15Speaker 5: You know now I'm gonna say something cliche. I mean,
- 24:18Speaker 5: it's some here for a Reese. You know what I'm saying.
- 24:19Speaker 1: That's something, But it really does though.
- 24:23Speaker 5: Like I'm in my forties, just got my physical a
- 24:27Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago, no cholesterol, diabetes, hot blood pressure,
- 24:34Speaker 5: work out three times a week at he you gangs
- 24:37Speaker 5: a rapid night. I eat healthy, drink a lot of water,
- 24:40Speaker 5: don't get enough sleep. But that's like something I can
- 24:43Speaker 5: work on. But you know, I'm just you know, I'm
- 24:51Speaker 5: in a I'm in a good I'm in a good place.
- 24:56Speaker 1: I'm happy.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Man. No PTSD, no stress, no, no.
- 25:00Speaker 5: Not that I know of, Like I don't have any
- 25:02Speaker 5: Like I did take psychology in college, so and I
- 25:06Speaker 5: loved it. Like when I got in psychology, it wasn't
- 25:09Speaker 5: even my major. I remember changing to the major life
- 25:12Speaker 5: maybe like I remember finding out something about myself studying
- 25:16Speaker 5: the actual course, you know what I'm saying.
- 25:18Speaker 1: And so with me.
- 25:22Speaker 5: The therapy aspect, you know, I do have like some
- 25:28Speaker 5: little triggers. I do have triggers, but I want to
- 25:31Speaker 5: say I'm kind of conscious of them, and I'll probably be.
- 25:33Speaker 5: I'm probably doing some self evaluation, you know what I mean.
- 25:37Speaker 5: I hadn't sat down and really liked kicked it off.
- 25:39Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 25:40Speaker 5: I'm not against therapy though, I'm not against therapy. But
- 25:42Speaker 5: I have went through things and I've gotten over them
- 25:44Speaker 5: and I've moved on. And I went through some dramatic
- 25:47Speaker 5: stuff too. But I just feel like God, when you
- 25:50Speaker 5: I feel I believe so much in God that I
- 25:52Speaker 5: just didn't didn't let that hold me back. I didn't
- 25:54Speaker 5: let it bring me PTSD. I ain't like, man, you
- 25:56Speaker 5: know what happened to me. I'm crazy, Like I ain't.
- 26:01Speaker 5: People need excuses to be you know, man, you don't
- 26:05Speaker 5: even know. Man, I was, you know, and I ain't
- 26:07Speaker 5: on that.
- 26:08Speaker 9: You know, I know that you see that you're deeply
- 26:10Speaker 9: grounded in family. Came here with your family. How did
- 26:13Speaker 9: you know that your wife, Keisha was the person that
- 26:16Speaker 9: got intended for you?
- 26:17Speaker 1: Something told me, something told me she was the one key.
- 26:21Speaker 1: She used to write.
- 26:22Speaker 5: She still does, but she you know, I said this,
- 26:24Speaker 5: she used to go to church and she used to
- 26:25Speaker 5: write notes, and I was like, okay, and like real
- 26:29Speaker 5: life then the powerpoints type of stuff of like what
- 26:33Speaker 5: they was talking about the church. So I liked that
- 26:35Speaker 5: she was God fear and I liked that she was
- 26:37Speaker 5: just a natural beautiful woman inside and out. And you know,
- 26:42Speaker 5: having somebody like that in the industry, it's like being
- 26:46Speaker 5: in the industry and having you know, somebody that you
- 26:48Speaker 5: care about it is like not the easiest thing to navigate.
- 26:50Speaker 5: So you got to just you know, for me, just
- 26:53Speaker 5: keep on the pedestal. Let let her know that she
- 26:56Speaker 5: she is mine. She's the one point.
- 26:58Speaker 6: How do you separate the vine and guidance from just
- 27:01Speaker 6: wanting something really bad?
- 27:03Speaker 2: That's a good one.
- 27:08Speaker 9: My question is easier than that.
- 27:11Speaker 5: You ain't what the heck you're working though you're getting
- 27:13Speaker 5: what I'm saying, But but it's sty good the divine God.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Keep going, keep working, you know when people do look
- 27:25Speaker 1: at your paper, Just keep going. You almost finished the
- 27:29Speaker 1: divine guidance aspect.
- 27:32Speaker 5: Or if you just want something, So, if you just
- 27:34Speaker 5: want something really bad, is that are you saying?
- 27:36Speaker 1: Like manifesting something?
- 27:38Speaker 6: You know you have a you have something in your
- 27:39Speaker 6: mind that you want, like I want this goal, I
- 27:42Speaker 6: want to accomplishment, accomplish it. But that don't mean that's what
- 27:44Speaker 6: God wants you to be doing.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 27:53Speaker 5: I believe in speaking things into AI do I believe
- 27:56Speaker 5: in manifestation. Now, if you want to do something that
- 27:59Speaker 5: don't got love and I believe like he don't got
- 28:01Speaker 5: nothing to do with I say, God is love.
- 28:04Speaker 1: God equals love.
- 28:05Speaker 5: So you might want to be on some that ain't
- 28:07Speaker 5: got nothing to do with love, and he not going
- 28:08Speaker 5: to answer the phone for that. But if you want
- 28:11Speaker 5: something and they got love attached to it too. I
- 28:14Speaker 5: think he'll answer and listen. I mean, you already know
- 28:17Speaker 5: what's going on. So that's my personal because I have
- 28:19Speaker 5: one of some of them. Another thing is we have
- 28:21Speaker 5: to teach some of the youth the difference between needs
- 28:24Speaker 5: and wants. I think they got it, like some of
- 28:26Speaker 5: it confused, you know what I'm saying. And it's a difference.
- 28:28Speaker 7: So how have you always Because every interview I watched
- 28:31Speaker 7: you and I know we talked that culture kind before too.
- 28:33Speaker 1: I feel that was good. Thank you, no, thank you.
- 28:36Speaker 7: I feel like every time I listen to you speak,
- 28:38Speaker 7: even when you were younger, it seems like you always
- 28:40Speaker 7: understood the difference between your needs and your wants and
- 28:43Speaker 7: separated the two. How did you have that so young?
- 28:47Speaker 7: Like doing so many different things from college to being
- 28:50Speaker 7: in streets.
- 28:51Speaker 5: Like So I'm going to tell you another pop story.
- 28:53Speaker 5: So Pop, my pop used to go in the store.
- 28:56Speaker 5: He used to steal, and then he used to get
- 28:59Speaker 5: mad at me because he would just stop abruptly, and
- 29:02Speaker 5: then I would hit him in the back of the
- 29:03Speaker 5: achilles with like the buggy. When I him in the
- 29:06Speaker 5: back of the leg with the buget heud get mad
- 29:08Speaker 5: as hell, and so then I'll get like thirty feet
- 29:10Speaker 5: away from him, and then we're getting the car and
- 29:13Speaker 5: he'll start taking stuff like out his sock. He would,
- 29:16Speaker 5: you know, the long socking. He puts stuff on his jean.
- 29:19Speaker 5: And then he told me, he said, he told me, kids,
- 29:27Speaker 5: don't listen to me or my pops on this, because
- 29:29Speaker 5: now I listen to it don't make sense, But he said, steal,
- 29:33Speaker 5: steal what you need, not what you want. And so
- 29:37Speaker 5: he was going to the store and steal like things
- 29:41Speaker 5: that he felt like we need for the house, whether
- 29:42Speaker 5: it was.
- 29:44Speaker 1: Taller trees or whatever it was.
- 29:46Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, It'll be that it wouldn't
- 29:47Speaker 5: be like snacks or or gum or nothing like that.
- 29:51Speaker 2: And that makes perfect sense to me.
- 29:54Speaker 5: Yeah, but you don't want people to think, man, I
- 29:56Speaker 5: need this watch, you know what I'm saying, Because that's
- 29:57Speaker 5: why I say, they don't know what needs.
- 29:59Speaker 1: And wants are.
- 30:00Speaker 5: But my pop, so for a long time, I used
- 30:03Speaker 5: to steal stuff, you know, but I would stand in
- 30:06Speaker 5: line with a pack of gum on everything I love.
- 30:08Speaker 5: I'll just be like, I'll just be waiting to pay
- 30:10Speaker 5: for the gum.
- 30:11Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But if it was something I.
- 30:12Speaker 5: Needed, I already had it home, Like I really need this,
- 30:14Speaker 5: I take that and couldn't afford it, I would take it.
- 30:17Speaker 4: You think reading the book, right, do you think God
- 30:21Speaker 4: gave you the plugs?
- 30:25Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 30:28Speaker 4: You TraFi, you think God gave you read it. He
- 30:33Speaker 4: was like, it was a blessing that got the plug.
- 30:34Speaker 4: God gave me this plug.
- 30:35Speaker 3: I'm like, because your plug.
- 30:38Speaker 1: Could be how have you got this job? Whatever? You
- 30:40Speaker 1: know got opening up so many doors for me? But yes,
- 30:44Speaker 1: how I got it?
- 30:45Speaker 5: And so many people that do what I do never
- 30:47Speaker 5: had a plug, and they'll tell you how miserable their
- 30:50Speaker 5: hustling experience was. Once you get somebody that you can call.
- 30:54Speaker 5: And this is just once again, this is my These
- 30:57Speaker 5: are my theories, right, you know what I'm saying. But
- 30:59Speaker 5: I I'm not looking for a plug.
- 31:01Speaker 1: I find this guy that essentially helped change the way
- 31:05Speaker 1: I was moving and living up to now.
- 31:08Speaker 2: It was a little finesse in one of your plugs.
- 31:09Speaker 5: Now, yeah it was a little little Yeah that was finesse. Yes,
- 31:14Speaker 5: that was finesse, but it was it was It was
- 31:17Speaker 5: a sign of intelligence too.
- 31:21Speaker 1: It was the signs of intelligence, right because.
- 31:24Speaker 5: I'm able to I'm hearing what's going on, and I
- 31:28Speaker 5: know how important it is to have one because I don't.
- 31:30Speaker 5: At this point, I already had a plug. So I'm
- 31:32Speaker 5: hearing like so, I'm like, so I didn't even take
- 31:35Speaker 5: buddy plug. That's just kind of like would come in
- 31:38Speaker 5: the street. I never was like a person that robbed anybody.
- 31:42Speaker 2: I won't say this.
- 31:45Speaker 6: The reason I do agree with him when he said
- 31:47Speaker 6: for him, for him because he was the weed man.
- 31:51Speaker 2: We man different than like the other guy that's telling
- 31:53Speaker 2: the hardship.
- 31:54Speaker 1: We man. Weed brings you love, you know, weed man man,
- 31:58Speaker 1: and you know how it is you.
- 32:01Speaker 5: I mean, you get a feature. I was smoking. We
- 32:05Speaker 5: were then artist. When you're coming up when you smoke
- 32:07Speaker 5: like man, it's pretty good.
- 32:08Speaker 1: Let's wrap.
- 32:08Speaker 5: You know, things can happen man, you know. So it
- 32:11Speaker 5: helped me out tremendously. I got some of my stuff
- 32:14Speaker 5: may sound really really off, but if you just if
- 32:19Speaker 5: I have Charlemagne with me, he'll help you.
- 32:23Speaker 2: I read.
- 32:23Speaker 3: I'm like, God gave me the plug, like.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Well, he was the weed man. That's the difference.
- 32:28Speaker 1: A man different when you got that.
- 32:31Speaker 7: Everybody has those experiences though, where you're like, yo, if
- 32:34Speaker 7: I had to talk about this again, nobody would be
- 32:36Speaker 7: But I think that's favor too. Like I was watching
- 32:38Speaker 7: a sermon yesterday and Pastor Mike, like Junior, he was saying,
- 32:42Speaker 7: you're yes to God breaks cycles and then that comes
- 32:44Speaker 7: with a whole level of divine favor that like you
- 32:46Speaker 7: couldn't even explain it to people and the feeling of
- 32:48Speaker 7: it if you try to. And a lot of your
- 32:50Speaker 7: story is that it's like you have this personal one
- 32:53Speaker 7: on one that like we would never really get. It's
- 32:54Speaker 7: funny to hear.
- 32:55Speaker 5: But the story about my dad cross snow, it's something
- 33:00Speaker 5: I never knew how to even tell nobody. You had
- 33:03Speaker 5: to be like I probably told eight people my whole life,
- 33:07Speaker 5: and this happened in twenty fifteen. I just showed my
- 33:09Speaker 5: kids recently because I thought that they would be you
- 33:12Speaker 5: know ready.
- 33:12Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah.
- 33:16Speaker 2: But you even named all your kids something spiritual.
- 33:19Speaker 5: Well, Keisha started off, she named our first baby Heaven.
- 33:22Speaker 5: She named the first two Heaven Harmony, and then I
- 33:25Speaker 5: came with the halo.
- 33:27Speaker 1: I sprinkled that south Side. That's fine.
- 33:32Speaker 6: How has emotional maturity changed the way you hear that
- 33:35Speaker 6: inner voice, that.
- 33:36Speaker 1: Emotional maturity change.
- 33:38Speaker 5: How I hear the inner voice, my emotional maturity change, how.
- 33:41Speaker 9: I hear MYO.
- 33:44Speaker 5: Uh oh, yeah, I can answer that. So my emotional
- 33:50Speaker 5: maturity changed how I heard the inner voice because I'm
- 33:54Speaker 5: able to want one decipher if it's love or hate,
- 33:59Speaker 5: because cause we all got a fucking voice too. We
- 34:02Speaker 5: all got a voice that we've all said fucking and
- 34:04Speaker 5: done and done some things, and some it sometimes came
- 34:07Speaker 5: back to bite us in the button sometimes it happened.
- 34:09Speaker 5: But right now, I think with the emotional intelligence, it
- 34:12Speaker 5: comes with it comes with growth, it comes with age,
- 34:15Speaker 5: and it comes with experience, right and it just comes
- 34:17Speaker 5: with life. It comes with life situations, it comes with
- 34:19Speaker 5: life choices. And so for some of the things that
- 34:21Speaker 5: I touched on in this book, you literally have to
- 34:24Speaker 5: live long enough. Like this book can't be written by
- 34:27Speaker 5: a teenager or somebody in their twenties. This is my
- 34:29Speaker 5: personal opinion. This book is like experience based. At the
- 34:33Speaker 5: same time, I'm just not running off some ideas and
- 34:36Speaker 5: stuff like this. This is this is stuff that you
- 34:39Speaker 5: know I've been through, or someone that's been through, or
- 34:43Speaker 5: you know something and there was a voice there. It
- 34:46Speaker 5: was a voice there during all of these situations.
- 34:51Speaker 6: Has there ever been a time where that voice led
- 34:53Speaker 6: you somewhere painful?
- 34:54Speaker 2: But you but you realized it was necessary.
- 34:56Speaker 6: And I don't mean by not listening to it, like
- 34:58Speaker 6: you actually listen to it in this still let you
- 35:00Speaker 6: somewhere where you was like, it's not what I thought
- 35:03Speaker 6: was gonna happen.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Mm hmm. When I listened to my voice, I have listen, bro,
- 35:08Speaker 1: this is This is how insane it is.
- 35:10Speaker 5: I listened to it. It'll tell me what time to
- 35:13Speaker 5: go to the gym, tell me what time to lead
- 35:14Speaker 5: to go get my son. They'll tell me what right,
- 35:16Speaker 5: what route to take him. It'll tell me what tell
- 35:22Speaker 5: me what we need to eat, what he needs to eat.
- 35:25Speaker 5: It'll tell me what route to go home. I can
- 35:28Speaker 5: go home three or four different ways. They tell me
- 35:31Speaker 5: that man, don't go that way, Man go this way.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Man.
- 35:32Speaker 5: And and this has been happening for a long time,
- 35:36Speaker 5: but I ain' used to pay no attention. Util I
- 35:37Speaker 5: ran into a road block and you'd be like, oh, man,
- 35:39Speaker 5: I know.
- 35:39Speaker 1: I shouldn't have came this way. You know what I'm saying.
- 35:41Speaker 1: But this was early on, when I was maneuvern.
- 35:42Speaker 5: But the voice is something that I that I hear
- 35:51Speaker 5: a lot that it was hard for me to really
- 35:55Speaker 5: articulate without saying I had an imaginary friend of something
- 36:00Speaker 5: like that when I'm sitting in the corner and I'm
- 36:01Speaker 5: going back and forth and I'm ide eight between me
- 36:03Speaker 5: and my voice. But I think it was very important
- 36:07Speaker 5: at this time for me to write this literature because
- 36:10Speaker 5: I feel like it's gonna help if it helps one person,
- 36:13Speaker 5: which I've already received multiple text messages from people who
- 36:16Speaker 5: got advanced copies on the voice in their head and
- 36:21Speaker 5: the something told me and them listening more closely.
- 36:24Speaker 1: So that's what this is for. That's why the timing
- 36:27Speaker 1: is for.
- 36:29Speaker 5: You know, I've been in front of you guys many
- 36:31Speaker 5: a times talking about many of different projects, but I
- 36:34Speaker 5: just keep going into my creative bag coming up with
- 36:37Speaker 5: something that I think can help my community. This is
- 36:39Speaker 5: like a community outreach project. This is for my community. Bro,
- 36:42Speaker 5: It's like this for my community. People give away turkeys,
- 36:45Speaker 5: people do all kinds of stuff. This book is for
- 36:48Speaker 5: my community. I feel like I've been just holding on
- 36:51Speaker 5: hoarding like this secret, sauce, this secret like man Tony,
- 36:55Speaker 5: how you keep I got partner, man, How you keep man,
- 36:57Speaker 5: what I'm telling you, man, try and try and try
- 37:01Speaker 5: and try, just try, just try try two weeks, like,
- 37:05Speaker 5: just try.
- 37:06Speaker 3: Did you really think you were Michael Jackson.
- 37:09Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I was just messing with my mama. My mama,
- 37:12Speaker 1: My mama.
- 37:12Speaker 5: Got she she she been with my daddy this whole time,
- 37:14Speaker 5: so she knows sarcasm, right. So I had, you know,
- 37:19Speaker 5: I broke my broke my elbow and my knee. But
- 37:22Speaker 5: they put my they'll just put me to sleep, apop
- 37:24Speaker 5: my elbow back in place.
- 37:25Speaker 1: Boom.
- 37:25Speaker 5: And it's on her birthday. She done left her birthday
- 37:27Speaker 5: party being in the hospital with me. So I'm coming
- 37:29Speaker 5: up out of the anesthesia and they're.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Like, miss you okay, missed up, You're okay. I'm like, yeah, yeah,
- 37:35Speaker 1: mister up.
- 37:36Speaker 5: And I kind of look over I look over there,
- 37:38Speaker 5: I see you my mom. I see my mom, Like
- 37:40Speaker 5: you're okay, and like yeah, like, what's your name? Say
- 37:43Speaker 5: your whole name? I said, Michael Jackson. She said, I'm
- 37:50Speaker 5: getting an up. She got up and left. Man, I
- 37:54Speaker 5: don't know, I don't know, man. I'm an optimistic person. Man,
- 37:58Speaker 5: I'm just optimistic if something bad happened me. I just
- 38:01Speaker 5: I turn it over. I just try to find the good.
- 38:03Speaker 5: And it's some good in here somewhere. It got to be,
- 38:05Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
- 38:06Speaker 6: You talk about rebranding and reinvention a lot in the book, like,
- 38:09Speaker 6: do you ever worry that when you are constantly evolving
- 38:12Speaker 6: can disconnect you from your from your core?
- 38:15Speaker 1: No, you have to do that, You have to. I
- 38:16Speaker 1: have to.
- 38:17Speaker 5: I'm showing people, but I'm not like being preachy when
- 38:19Speaker 5: I'm showing people how to move and how businesses move.
- 38:21Speaker 5: If you look up McDonald's sprites, everybody rebrands. They don't
- 38:25Speaker 5: exactly change their name, but they rebrand, they change the arts,
- 38:27Speaker 5: they do something they you know what I mean. And
- 38:29Speaker 5: so for me, I'm a business. Two change is a
- 38:31Speaker 5: brand and I have a new logo. I got a
- 38:33Speaker 5: new logo. I'm about to launch, you know, this week
- 38:36Speaker 5: or next week. So for me, you know, I've been
- 38:38Speaker 5: too changed. Titty Boy, met Tony and Janie's son, I'm hell,
- 38:41Speaker 5: we've killer. But I mean I'm looking at other successful
- 38:44Speaker 5: people that pull this stuff before. I mean, I know
- 38:47Speaker 5: Jay has a couple of names. A couple people I
- 38:50Speaker 5: know have a couple of names, and it's just like
- 38:53Speaker 5: a part of me. I'm also giving that knowledge. I
- 38:56Speaker 5: was like, man, I got some game, and sometimes this
- 38:58Speaker 5: book is a way to spread it to the masses
- 38:59Speaker 5: and instead of just talking to one individual. So I
- 39:02Speaker 5: think it's important that you know a lot of people
- 39:04Speaker 5: be like man. You know, I've had artists asked me
- 39:06Speaker 5: should they changed their name? You know what I'm saying,
- 39:07Speaker 5: Should I change my name? Like I know you did it, bro,
- 39:09Speaker 5: you know what I mean? And stuff like that. So
- 39:11Speaker 5: it's whatever works for you. But I think it's important
- 39:13Speaker 5: that you you revisit your brand every three to five years.
- 39:19Speaker 1: Three to five.
- 39:20Speaker 5: Years, that's mine. I go in there and I see
- 39:22Speaker 5: what I can tweet, turn do whatever.
- 39:24Speaker 6: I love the book man, because you make you make ambition.
- 39:28Speaker 6: You look at it as something spiritual, like I think
- 39:31Speaker 6: sometimes people have this this hunger and they dress it
- 39:34Speaker 6: up as faith. But like to me, you actually approach
- 39:38Speaker 6: ambition as something spiritual.
- 39:41Speaker 1: Can we can't You can't buy ambition. You can't go
- 39:46Speaker 1: to Amazon. You lazy.
- 39:48Speaker 5: You need some take something to give you. You taking
- 39:52Speaker 5: something to get you injured. But that ain't the ambition.
- 39:54Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
- 39:55Speaker 1: I got that. I got the self motivation. You know
- 39:58Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
- 39:58Speaker 5: I the boys starts there, anybody to get your ass up.
- 40:02Speaker 5: You ain't got no big home, You ain't got nobody's
- 40:04Speaker 5: gonna do this for you, ain't got no friend you
- 40:05Speaker 5: can call on. You ain't got nobody. So like it
- 40:08Speaker 5: all falls on me. So yeah, I'm operating and definitely
- 40:12Speaker 5: in that space.
- 40:14Speaker 6: The one thing I wanted you to talk about in
- 40:15Speaker 6: the book is why you chose Alabama because over South
- 40:18Speaker 6: Carolina State.
- 40:20Speaker 3: Did you talk about it in the book.
- 40:21Speaker 5: No, So I got recruited by South Carolina South Carolina State.
- 40:25Speaker 5: I was going to Memphis. When I got I was
- 40:27Speaker 5: going to Memphis. That's what I was gonna commit to.
- 40:28Speaker 5: I like Memphis because Penny Hardaway had went there. I
- 40:31Speaker 5: was like this little skinny, scrowny point guard two guard,
- 40:35Speaker 5: and I just wanted to just following those steps. So
- 40:39Speaker 5: when I got locked up in high school, Alabama State
- 40:43Speaker 5: was the first school they called me.
- 40:44Speaker 1: They got in touch with me. They called me.
- 40:46Speaker 5: They were very like, you know, compassionate about what I
- 40:51Speaker 5: went through, and they offered me a full ride scholarship.
- 40:53Speaker 5: I already had the grades they offered me a full
- 40:56Speaker 5: ride scholarship. And they also I had peers that went
- 41:00Speaker 5: down there from my school life, so I knew some
- 41:02Speaker 5: knew some kids down there. It was two hours from
- 41:04Speaker 5: the house. And you know in the book, first chapter two,
- 41:09Speaker 5: I went down there playing. I went down to the
- 41:10Speaker 5: plane when I first went down there, at them you
- 41:12Speaker 5: know the Alabama boy they show they see it being
- 41:15Speaker 5: and I ended up going down there, and then I
- 41:18Speaker 5: lost my love for basketball the same year I went
- 41:21Speaker 5: down there because the coaches that called me and they
- 41:24Speaker 5: were so excited about having the opportunity to work with me,
- 41:26Speaker 5: they got fired. New coaches came in, New coaches came in,
- 41:30Speaker 5: they brought players in, and then I just remember my
- 41:34Speaker 5: passion for hooping starting to diminish, because at this point
- 41:37Speaker 5: I still wasn't like rapping or anything.
- 41:38Speaker 1: I was just like trapping and hooping.
- 41:41Speaker 4: Yeah, because in the book, I thought you said that
- 41:42Speaker 4: in the book because you said it was somebody knew
- 41:44Speaker 4: down there and it was close to.
- 41:45Speaker 3: The close to the crib, and you said you.
- 41:48Speaker 4: Started playing ball, and then what really turned you on
- 41:51Speaker 4: You said it was when the flood happened.
- 41:53Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
- 41:54Speaker 5: My dorm well my dorm flooded, But that just made
- 41:57Speaker 5: me get a spot off campus. You know, I still
- 42:00Speaker 5: was dealing in the parameters of a student athlete. I
- 42:04Speaker 5: still was I was I was going to class, you know,
- 42:06Speaker 5: I was going to class. I was doing everything. I
- 42:08Speaker 5: just I'm already living a certain lifestyle. I'm already got
- 42:12Speaker 5: a little hustle going I go down there. I got
- 42:14Speaker 5: three cars already. I'm literally driving a different car Monday, Wednesday,
- 42:17Speaker 5: and Friday, just because I can. I'm on that type
- 42:19Speaker 5: of time and so but I'm I'm a I'm a
- 42:23Speaker 5: learning junkie too. I love to learn even now I
- 42:25Speaker 5: love I mean, learning is so fast right now, is insane,
- 42:28Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, like trying to learn what's
- 42:29Speaker 5: going on in the words. But you know, originally meant
- 42:32Speaker 5: I enjoyed learning new information. I just you know what
- 42:35Speaker 5: I mean, I love it. So it was never a
- 42:36Speaker 5: situation where I if I wasn't on campus, I wasn't
- 42:39Speaker 5: gonna go to school. I still was going to handle
- 42:40Speaker 5: my responsibility. So I just talk about that in the
- 42:43Speaker 5: books as wonder, and that's that's one of the things
- 42:46Speaker 5: that push me into being independent too. You go to
- 42:48Speaker 5: college you know, you stay on campus. Then when you
- 42:51Speaker 5: get your crib off, this is your first home. This
- 42:53Speaker 5: is your crib.
- 42:54Speaker 1: You know, you start becoming, like, you know, a grown up.
- 42:57Speaker 2: You wouldn't met your queen either if you didn't go down.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah true.
- 43:01Speaker 6: My last question, if that voice in your head told
- 43:03Speaker 6: you to walk away from rap tomorrow, would you listen.
- 43:07Speaker 5: That's a great question because I love rap music so
- 43:10Speaker 5: much and I feel like, you know, I love it.
- 43:12Speaker 5: He wouldn't do He wouldn't do that, you know what
- 43:14Speaker 5: I'm saying. I love it, and one of the things
- 43:16Speaker 5: I love about it is that I still have good ideas,
- 43:22Speaker 5: whether for me or anybody else. When I say ideas,
- 43:25Speaker 5: not just in rap, but after the wrap, the market
- 43:28Speaker 5: and the title, the fonts, shades like I'm into all
- 43:33Speaker 5: like even this right here. This is a black artist
- 43:34Speaker 5: named the Reese He's dope, man. He's just like he's
- 43:38Speaker 5: not with a gallery or anything. The Reese Walker. I
- 43:41Speaker 5: found him online. He does this little like pastel dope.
- 43:44Speaker 5: This is art like he drew.
- 43:46Speaker 1: He drew this of me. This is not a picture.
- 43:48Speaker 1: He drew this whole thing.
- 43:50Speaker 5: And I just like, I just like, I don't know,
- 43:54Speaker 5: curating dope stuff.
- 43:55Speaker 2: So and you still do that without rap.
- 43:57Speaker 5: If God said to jan and I want you to
- 43:59Speaker 5: put that, if I heard him as clear as you
- 44:01Speaker 5: saying that, yeah, I probably would because I feel like
- 44:02Speaker 5: he got something bigger for me. And so he wants
- 44:04Speaker 5: me to probably start going to sleep at night, getting
- 44:06Speaker 5: up early or something like that, which I haven't done.
- 44:07Speaker 5: And since my father passed, I sleep in the daytime.
- 44:11Speaker 5: Only was sleep at night.
- 44:12Speaker 2: So you're writing books now, you got the podcast?
- 44:14Speaker 1: You know, me and Halo Me and Halo podcast. Check
- 44:19Speaker 1: that out?
- 44:19Speaker 2: What do you do?
- 44:21Speaker 1: What do you do at night?
- 44:22Speaker 2: Then if you like what are you doing?
- 44:23Speaker 1: You just like, what are you doing?
- 44:26Speaker 3: Are you not sleeping? You do?
- 44:28Speaker 1: I sleep at night?
- 44:29Speaker 8: Y'all know.
- 44:31Speaker 1: What time I go to sleep?
- 44:35Speaker 8: Six seven?
- 44:38Speaker 3: I got kids, yell it out.
- 44:50Speaker 2: It is what it is.
- 44:51Speaker 5: Halo told me we was retiring this year. I think
- 44:53Speaker 5: he said on the podcast, like we had to let
- 44:55Speaker 5: it go or something for something.
- 44:57Speaker 1: Man.
- 44:59Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but I go to sleep around six six
- 45:01Speaker 5: or seven, and then I get up around what time
- 45:04Speaker 5: I get up.
- 45:06Speaker 1: Twelve one?
- 45:06Speaker 7: Is that because of your music? Artists like, because a
- 45:09Speaker 7: lot of artists are like that too, Where they're up
- 45:10Speaker 7: on it.
- 45:11Speaker 5: I've been doing that ever since the kids knowing me. Okay,
- 45:15Speaker 5: Harmony thirteen, But what.
- 45:18Speaker 2: Are you doing?
- 45:18Speaker 3: Are you thinking?
- 45:19Speaker 2: Like?
- 45:19Speaker 3: Are you writing?
- 45:20Speaker 5: Are you I'm in I'm in a studio space when
- 45:23Speaker 5: I'm doing something ambitious to help my career go further.
- 45:28Speaker 5: And that is the time when all the noise is
- 45:30Speaker 5: shut off for me. All the people that I love
- 45:33Speaker 5: should be in the bed sleep. I don't receive phone
- 45:36Speaker 5: calls that lay nobody calling me saying they needed I
- 45:39Speaker 5: can actually concentrate on the task at hand, whatever that is.
- 45:42Speaker 5: And those are my hours that I can just lock
- 45:45Speaker 5: in from probably twelve to six or something like that.
- 45:47Speaker 5: I started working at night round eleven to twelve. From
- 45:49Speaker 5: twelve to six is really just really really my time,
- 45:52Speaker 5: really need time. I don't have to worry about you
- 45:55Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I mean, of course I worry
- 45:56Speaker 5: about people, but it's just really my time. I don't
- 45:58Speaker 5: have anything else my mind with me and the task
- 46:01Speaker 5: at hand.
- 46:02Speaker 3: And that's therapeutic for you.
- 46:03Speaker 1: That's so therapeutic for me.
- 46:04Speaker 5: I wouldn't know what to do, Like like Keisha hates
- 46:07Speaker 5: when I'm at home that in those times because she
- 46:13Speaker 5: trying to sleep.
- 46:14Speaker 1: And I'm moving around up and Man.
- 46:16Speaker 5: Just the other day, I was just doing the most
- 46:18Speaker 5: craziest stuff, man, because I had to be up at seven.
- 46:20Speaker 5: So I'm like, Man, do I go to sleep or
- 46:23Speaker 5: do I just stay up to seven? So I'm trying
- 46:25Speaker 5: to figure it out. She's like, what you're doing home?
- 46:27Speaker 1: This thing?
- 46:28Speaker 5: No? She look at me. I'm standing out the window
- 46:31Speaker 5: like Malcolm X. I'm just looking out the one, you
- 46:34Speaker 5: know what. I'm saying stuff like this, I really need
- 46:37Speaker 5: some asphalts so I can. I'm just looking at stuff
- 46:39Speaker 5: at the house. I'm just looking at the driveway. I
- 46:42Speaker 5: need to do this round about over. I'm looking at
- 46:45Speaker 5: the tennis court and got the light out there on
- 46:47Speaker 5: the court.
- 46:47Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm like, man, we should use this more often.
- 46:51Speaker 1: We just.
- 46:53Speaker 5: With my mind and my like, I'm not sleepy, I'm
- 46:56Speaker 5: not tired, I'm not ying at because my body trying.
- 46:59Speaker 5: I'm almost like a new boring. I'm trying to sleep
- 47:02Speaker 5: from like seven to five. I mean, I'm sorry, five hours,
- 47:06Speaker 5: seven to twelve. I'm trying to sleep like that long,
- 47:09Speaker 5: but the longest, like literally since twenty twice of my
- 47:12Speaker 5: pop died. I hadn't really slept in night time.
- 47:15Speaker 4: Yeah, m hm, well the book is out today.
- 47:20Speaker 5: This is the book is god? Are you looking at this?
- 47:23Speaker 5: This is dope. There's a ham some picture on the
- 47:25Speaker 5: back as well. Man, look if you open this up,
- 47:27Speaker 5: this is something something told me. So I'm gonna challenge
- 47:31Speaker 5: you'll go to two chainsbook dot com, enter the Sweet
- 47:34Speaker 5: States to sit next to me at the hoss game.
- 47:36Speaker 5: You have to March eleventh to do that. But this
- 47:39Speaker 5: right here, tell me what does something tell you?
- 47:42Speaker 1: Bo? I guess something told.
- 47:43Speaker 5: You give me some give me an example, something told
- 47:45Speaker 5: you give me.
- 47:47Speaker 1: An exam where.
- 47:51Speaker 5: So what I'm saying, what so you was pulling stuff?
- 47:53Speaker 5: Tell me how to tell me how that went?
- 47:55Speaker 2: So I woke up under this.
- 47:56Speaker 1: It's crazy though. So that yeah, because I was.
- 47:59Speaker 9: Gonna wake up early and do my little you know,
- 48:00Speaker 9: my little curling joint. But I ain't have enough time
- 48:03Speaker 9: because I was I was going to questions for my book,
- 48:06Speaker 9: you know what I'm saying, because I start.
- 48:07Speaker 2: Person this week.
- 48:07Speaker 1: So I got up.
- 48:08Speaker 9: I ain't have enough time for that. So I was like,
- 48:10Speaker 9: you know what I'm gonna I'm gonna wear my hat.
- 48:13Speaker 5: Something told you to put I mean you got other
- 48:15Speaker 5: hats though, what made you get put that one on?
- 48:19Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 48:19Speaker 9: Like the funny is I want to go with the
- 48:21Speaker 9: little suit and go with the you know, the bodysuit.
- 48:23Speaker 9: I just got these new nikes.
- 48:25Speaker 5: I know they courting. Okay, give me an example. Something
- 48:32Speaker 5: told you.
- 48:32Speaker 3: I told them that today I'm learn how to ski today.
- 48:36Speaker 4: Something told you, like you just sitting there like, man,
- 48:38Speaker 4: you know it is my son's snowboards and I took
- 48:40Speaker 4: them on the mountain the other day and I felt
- 48:43Speaker 4: bad because I couldn't go with him on the mounta
- 48:44Speaker 4: because I don't know how to score snowboard to ski.
- 48:46Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, I'm gonna learn
- 48:47Speaker 4: how to ski, so next time we go, I can
- 48:49Speaker 4: get on that.
- 48:50Speaker 1: I'm good father.
- 48:51Speaker 2: So absolutely.
- 48:53Speaker 7: Something told me I need to go back home this
- 48:55Speaker 7: weekend spender time with my family.
- 48:57Speaker 1: I love it.
- 48:59Speaker 6: Something told me that two Chains had an amazing book
- 49:01Speaker 6: that he needed to get published, and that's why you're
- 49:05Speaker 6: in them.
- 49:05Speaker 2: That's right.
- 49:08Speaker 7: Hold on, you knew you wanted to write a book,
- 49:10Speaker 7: But did you go to him and say, hey, it's
- 49:11Speaker 7: time or did how did that?
- 49:13Speaker 5: No, he just knew I'm a successful black dude, so
- 49:15Speaker 5: he tried to cap in on my success because he
- 49:16Speaker 5: know I'm a winner.
- 49:18Speaker 2: Else he changes the plug. I wouldn't have Crystal franchises
- 49:24Speaker 2: if it.
- 49:24Speaker 7: Wasn't and people don't talk enough about you and your
- 49:29Speaker 7: involvement in the Crystal franchise.
- 49:31Speaker 5: My environment in the culture is crazy, you know what
- 49:33Speaker 5: I'm saying. I am the pictures, I am the mood
- 49:35Speaker 5: boy for a lot of stuff going on. I'm humble
- 49:38Speaker 5: and quiet sometimes a lot of the times. But I
- 49:41Speaker 5: could see how what my influence has done for even
- 49:44Speaker 5: my whole city.
- 49:45Speaker 1: Like man, listen.
- 49:47Speaker 5: Esco and the Esco franchise ten years. I owned the
- 49:51Speaker 5: Dirt five years before I started running the business, own
- 49:53Speaker 5: the vertically candy Land. There's no other person my age,
- 49:58Speaker 5: my democratic that owns a my demographic, that owns an
- 50:01Speaker 5: adult entertainment. You to get a permit to be nude
- 50:04Speaker 5: and have alcoholis they stop issuing those in nineteen ninety three?
- 50:09Speaker 5: You have to biytos for an extremely high price from
- 50:12Speaker 5: somebody who sets it. A lot of the even the
- 50:17Speaker 5: G League team being connected to the Linta Hawks, you
- 50:20Speaker 5: know what I'm saying.
- 50:21Speaker 1: Even having an association with that.
- 50:25Speaker 5: It's just a lot of things that I see that
- 50:28Speaker 5: I try to open up like in this book and
- 50:30Speaker 5: let my peers know, like this is what's going on,
- 50:33Speaker 5: and this is how I'm even making these business decisions
- 50:36Speaker 5: based off Like of course I have a lawyer, I
- 50:39Speaker 5: have management, but I got this voice going on with
- 50:41Speaker 5: me too, and but I do have you know, the
- 50:43Speaker 5: crystal situation shot the Jernamthan just shot that everybody that
- 50:46Speaker 5: I became partners with. I think collaborating. Collaborating is a
- 50:50Speaker 5: good thing, not only a music but in business too.
- 50:53Speaker 5: And my secret to that is finding someone that's passionate
- 50:56Speaker 5: in whatever you're trying to do and collaborate with and
- 51:00Speaker 5: then you can have success in the field. So I
- 51:03Speaker 5: said to say that the person I'm collaborating with the
- 51:05Speaker 5: ESCO there, they're passionate about the hospitality space.
- 51:09Speaker 1: They don't have a special seasoning or sauce. It's bigger
- 51:11Speaker 1: than that. You got to know this space.
- 51:14Speaker 5: The person that I'm in the strip club visits is
- 51:17Speaker 5: passionate about that business. So it's just and Jonathan is
- 51:21Speaker 5: passionate about crystals, and this man is passionate about giving back.
- 51:25Speaker 1: To our community. So that's how a lot of things
- 51:27Speaker 1: line up.
- 51:28Speaker 2: There you have it.
- 51:29Speaker 3: It's two changed ladies and gentlemen.
- 51:30Speaker 1: Get the book today, thank y'all.
- 51:32Speaker 3: And it's the Breakfast Club, Good morning.
- 51:35Speaker 1: Every day. Click yours up, the Breakfast Club.
- 51:39Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all.
- 51:40Speaker 1: Done,