Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Happy Hour #57: Secret Sex (SATC Ep. 6)
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane
- 0:07Speaker 1: Ever told you production of iHeart Radio. And welcome to
- 0:19Speaker 1: another edition of our sub subset series. Sure of us
- 0:24Speaker 1: watching Sex in the City and live reacting so Annie
- 0:28Speaker 1: can enjoy for the first time while I enjoy from
- 0:30Speaker 1: her perspective of Sex in the City season one. We're
- 0:34Speaker 1: only on season one, y'all. Yes, but we are on
- 0:38Speaker 1: episode six good news. Yeah, so only episodes movies and
- 0:46Speaker 1: then we're in a backtrack because I had to explain
- 0:47Speaker 1: so many things that was related to the offset series
- 0:51Speaker 1: of and just like that from Max original. But I'm
- 0:55Speaker 1: really excited to be like able to point out this
- 0:57Speaker 1: is this, this is this. So we're not gonna do
- 0:59Speaker 1: all of that. But in tradition of watching those and
- 1:02Speaker 1: any being a new Virgin to these episodes from New Virgin,
- 1:06Speaker 1: is that redundant Virgin? I guess it's a little bit redundant.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Can you do a recap of what has happened thus far?
- 1:13Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm testing you, Okay, Okay, I
- 1:16Speaker 1: like to test alright, So, so far they've talked about
- 1:21Speaker 1: like single hood versus married women, like single women versus
- 1:26Speaker 1: married women, they've talked about dating twenty something year old
- 1:30Speaker 1: and Timothy all I Fund showed up and he had
- 1:32Speaker 1: R two D two an issue. That's the most important thing. Uh,
- 1:39Speaker 1: we have been introduced to big. There have been many already,
- 1:46Speaker 1: like going out a nights and yes, I think we
- 1:54Speaker 1: had some We had some models in here. Models. Yeah,
- 1:56Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, So okay, all right. And also
- 2:00Speaker 1: just so you know, this is our happy hour segment
- 2:02Speaker 1: and so therefore we are sipping because it is not
- 2:05Speaker 1: quite noon where we are sitting, but because it's sex
- 2:08Speaker 1: in the city. We were like Mimosa. So last time,
- 2:11Speaker 1: I think we did and just like that in a
- 2:13Speaker 1: couple of episodes we did the Cosmos we did. But
- 2:16Speaker 1: today we're hitting out with mimosas cheers, cheers, And that
- 2:20Speaker 1: is the orange juice champagne combo. I make your's a
- 2:24Speaker 1: little stronger than mine because and you can handle it.
- 2:26Speaker 1: I cannot. I will fall asleep with champagne. But I
- 2:28Speaker 1: still love it. Yeah, but if you are drinking, drink responsibly.
- 2:32Speaker 1: If you're not whatever, you're doing it responsibly. Yes, okay,
- 2:36Speaker 1: So the title of this episode, episode six is called
- 2:40Speaker 1: secret Sex. Can you give us a predictor of what
- 2:44Speaker 1: you think will happen. Oh, I failed the last one too.
- 2:47Speaker 1: I remember. Now sex, okay, secret sex. You're having sex
- 2:53Speaker 1: with somebody that you don't want other people to know
- 2:57Speaker 1: that you're having sex with. Sep person. Now, who do
- 3:01Speaker 1: I think it is? Yes, who do you think it is?
- 3:09Speaker 1: I think it's probably Gary. I don't know who. Well,
- 3:13Speaker 1: maybe Branda. That's also been fun because I've watched and
- 3:18Speaker 1: just like that. So now I'm like, the threads of
- 3:20Speaker 1: the future haven't been laid out yet, but I know
- 3:23Speaker 1: that they will be right exactly. I will say. It
- 3:27Speaker 1: does make me sad because we know what the allegations
- 3:30Speaker 1: with Chris Snath. That definitely makes me have a different
- 3:33Speaker 1: point of view. And unfortunately I didn't realize that these
- 3:36Speaker 1: allegations had been existing. One of his ex wives has
- 3:39Speaker 1: been shouting it from the rooftops, and it's now feeling
- 3:42Speaker 1: validated because people are coming out and I'm so sorry
- 3:45Speaker 1: to the victims and the survivors that we were not
- 3:48Speaker 1: aware and that we are here. Um, but it's one
- 3:51Speaker 1: of those we've talked about this. When something is ruined
- 3:54Speaker 1: by the actual people, how do we move on? Do
- 3:56Speaker 1: we move on? What do we do. I mean, Harry Potter,
- 4:00Speaker 1: the highlight of that series. I'm like, I don't want
- 4:02Speaker 1: to give more money, but she's getting all the money,
- 4:04Speaker 1: but she has really hateful rhetoric and I don't want
- 4:07Speaker 1: that in my life. But whatever, that's a whole we
- 4:10Speaker 1: talked about it for We'll probably come back to it,
- 4:11Speaker 1: but we because I guess Chris Not is very heavily
- 4:14Speaker 1: involved in sex in the city. We do know that
- 4:17Speaker 1: as well as like the death of Stanford Blast, the
- 4:20Speaker 1: character like we love him, um and I still feel
- 4:23Speaker 1: some type of way about all that, and then the
- 4:25Speaker 1: downfall of the relationship whatever it was, whoever had, whatever
- 4:29Speaker 1: the problem actually was. It does bring some downers to it,
- 4:32Speaker 1: but that's okay because we're not necessarily celebrating the individuals.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Were celebrating the characters, and that's where we're going. So
- 4:38Speaker 1: any are you ready? I'm ready? Here we go. Okay,
- 4:47Speaker 1: I thought you were serious about this guy. You can't
- 4:49Speaker 1: sleep with them on the first date. So we're coming
- 4:51Speaker 1: on the rules of dating. But you can't sleep with
- 4:55Speaker 1: someone on the first date or they'll never be able
- 4:57Speaker 1: to get married because you become the st which they
- 5:00Speaker 1: kind of talked about the anal sex. Then keep in
- 5:02Speaker 1: then a holding pattern for at least five days. You've
- 5:05Speaker 1: gone five days. That my rule was three days. Maybe
- 5:09Speaker 1: I'm a hope. I don't think so. I think three
- 5:13Speaker 1: is pretty okay. Of course, you know that also doesn't
- 5:16Speaker 1: imply the fact that we have choices and can change that.
- 5:19Speaker 1: But for some reason I felt this was a thing. Yeah,
- 5:22Speaker 1: I did have these ideas of like progression and in
- 5:27Speaker 1: our relationship means by this date you should have done this.
- 5:29Speaker 1: By this date, you should have done this. I think
- 5:31Speaker 1: it's pretty harmful. Actually it was very harmful. Maybe I
- 5:34Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. There's that whole book which
- 5:37Speaker 1: they already referenced in which they define all of that,
- 5:41Speaker 1: and she follows it to the t, Charlotte. The book
- 5:44Speaker 1: was called the Rules, and it was written in Time
- 5:50Speaker 1: Tested Secrets for Capturing the Heart of Mr Wright. Oh
- 5:55Speaker 1: that's how it's described. And she read that book, of
- 5:58Speaker 1: course she did. That feels very like and women have
- 6:03Speaker 1: to do go by these rules and not by what
- 6:05Speaker 1: they want at all. M awkward moment. Hi, I'm carried, Bradshaw.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Have you done that? Friend of mine? Like not introduce
- 6:19Speaker 1: someone on purpose? And so it's just just sit there
- 6:21Speaker 1: awkwardly or not been introduced on purpose that you just
- 6:23Speaker 1: sit there awkwardly. Yeah, I mean, I know it's like
- 6:26Speaker 1: kind of a tactic to get people too if you
- 6:28Speaker 1: don't know their name. I do that. I did once
- 6:32Speaker 1: accidentally introduce my boyfriend at the time as my friend,
- 6:36Speaker 1: and it caused the whole thing. Well, I will say
- 6:39Speaker 1: my partner and I I didn't know I was the
- 6:41Speaker 1: girlfriend until they said my girlfriend to someone and I
- 6:44Speaker 1: went mm hmm. Those labels they could cause the drive.
- 6:49Speaker 1: And then he remembered like three months later or a
- 6:52Speaker 1: month later when we're talking and I was like, I
- 6:54Speaker 1: didn't even know Awae, your girlfriend's like, what are you
- 6:55Speaker 1: talking about? That day? I was on the phone, so
- 6:56Speaker 1: he knew what do yeah? Now, oh god. Then my
- 7:01Speaker 1: boyfriend got mad at me at the time. He was like,
- 7:03Speaker 1: why on Facebook are you? Did you change your status?
- 7:11Speaker 1: I didn't. I never change my status when he dated
- 7:13Speaker 1: for three years. M hmm, So what's the problem. Look,
- 7:23Speaker 1: she's not beautiful and we don't have a lot of okay,
- 7:27Speaker 1: so he's saying he doesn't see himself with her forever.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Mike a friend and the reason he keeping her secret
- 7:33Speaker 1: because she's not beautiful, even though everything else about her
- 7:36Speaker 1: is perfect. What a dicky to think. So I got
- 7:41Speaker 1: this wrong. She's not the wrong wrong, You're not off
- 7:45Speaker 1: yet he keeps her secret. I don't think I've ever
- 7:48Speaker 1: been somebody's secret. I have you well, so I couldn't
- 7:52Speaker 1: figure it if I was someone's secret because they were
- 7:54Speaker 1: my secret too. But I couldn't tell if I was
- 7:57Speaker 1: because like other people would know about it that was surprised,
- 8:00Speaker 1: would know about it and confront me about it, and
- 8:04Speaker 1: then I was like what. But then it becomes like
- 8:07Speaker 1: but it was like we would not see each other often.
- 8:10Speaker 1: It would be like every few months, every couple of
- 8:12Speaker 1: months when we were like both single and that thing
- 8:14Speaker 1: was happening, so we're like, hey, let's hook up. And
- 8:17Speaker 1: then I found out like he had told some people
- 8:20Speaker 1: and then they were like, why don't you try it bigger?
- 8:22Speaker 1: And so we were both very off in our conversations
- 8:25Speaker 1: like when when we would be ready, when we wouldn't
- 8:27Speaker 1: be ready, So we would keep each other's secrets in
- 8:30Speaker 1: between times. So some of my friends really hated him. So, oh, yeah,
- 8:35Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Hello,
- 8:45Speaker 1: do you miss me yet? What is this? I watched
- 8:49Speaker 1: me horror movies? Who is this? Are you alone in
- 8:52Speaker 1: the house? It's not this. No horror movies. That'd be
- 8:58Speaker 1: such a twist. I haven't been able to stop thinking
- 9:09Speaker 1: about you. I adore tried. At least he called her back.
- 9:15Speaker 1: That's that other rule days. Oh my gosh, I forgot
- 9:19Speaker 1: about that. You don't immediately call you can't call him.
- 9:25Speaker 1: He has to call you. What a relief. I had
- 9:29Speaker 1: just escaped. Sex on the first date. Curse sex on
- 9:32Speaker 1: the first date. Curse. Let me get this straight right now,
- 9:42Speaker 1: Carrie and Chris not our arm in arm walking. That
- 9:47Speaker 1: is so obnoxious to me because I've just tried to
- 9:49Speaker 1: hold hands with someone walking. I feel like I'm out
- 9:51Speaker 1: of sink. Ye that do you do? That? Is that
- 9:54Speaker 1: a thing? I don't act like. That's an unrealistic expectation
- 9:58Speaker 1: that people have. Yeah, I'm such an awkward person. I
- 10:02Speaker 1: actually discussed this with my ex where it's like, I
- 10:07Speaker 1: just am not this person who's going to be closely.
- 10:09Speaker 1: I'm not gonna initiate holding hands and all this stuff.
- 10:12Speaker 1: And he's like, well, if you ever want to, you
- 10:14Speaker 1: can awkward, Paul, so good to see good to see
- 10:18Speaker 1: it again, non introducing Carrie right right. Miranda waited for
- 10:29Speaker 1: the dead boat to drop and then use the opportunity
- 10:32Speaker 1: people's apartment pures No, not like if it requires me opening,
- 10:37Speaker 1: like I'll look like if I have to open the
- 10:39Speaker 1: medicine cabinet, I'll look at what's in there. But if
- 10:42Speaker 1: I don't go out of my way. Okay, I have
- 10:45Speaker 1: done it to a certain extent to see if they're like,
- 10:49Speaker 1: especially with a dude, because I didn't know his life
- 10:51Speaker 1: too much that I was like, does he have a girlfriend?
- 10:53Speaker 1: And I someone he's teating with because I need to
- 10:54Speaker 1: know and this whole new thing, which I really think
- 10:57Speaker 1: we should talk about, the whole like women, even things
- 11:00Speaker 1: behind when they were female, things to let them know
- 11:03Speaker 1: that they were there. I do like this, but typically not.
- 11:08Speaker 1: We had our producer Andrew who came to my house
- 11:10Speaker 1: and started going through drawers. I'm like, what are you doing, man?
- 11:13Speaker 1: But out of that and then the spanking yeah yeah, no,
- 11:20Speaker 1: no no, no, I'm thinking uh because so she discovered
- 11:24Speaker 1: Miranda discovers her new man as a video in the
- 11:27Speaker 1: drawers because she went sipping that was as if a
- 11:29Speaker 1: spanking porn video. Yeah, I had a glimpse of it. Actually,
- 11:34Speaker 1: my somebody used to live with When I first moved in,
- 11:39Speaker 1: I wasn't snooping, but there was a tape out, Oh
- 11:42Speaker 1: that was imporn, and I was like, I was kind
- 11:46Speaker 1: of frightened to be honestly, like, if you leave this out,
- 11:48Speaker 1: I don't know if this is some kind of weird message. Yeah, yeah,
- 11:51Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about spankings because it
- 11:53Speaker 1: feels like too for me, who does not like to
- 11:56Speaker 1: be dominated often, like that's too much. I don't like
- 12:00Speaker 1: things a thing typically other things maybe, but hitting slapping
- 12:04Speaker 1: not my thing. So but like I'm sure that, like
- 12:07Speaker 1: I don't know that no one's ever asked me to
- 12:09Speaker 1: smack him. So you think you would be the dominant position,
- 12:12Speaker 1: I would think. So that's the only way I could
- 12:13Speaker 1: truly like be okay with it. I don't want that
- 12:16Speaker 1: to happen to me, Like I don't want it right personally,
- 12:20Speaker 1: I was. I think unfortunately, I don't think I could
- 12:24Speaker 1: ever trust somebody enough. But I think I could enjoy
- 12:26Speaker 1: that if I could trust somebody, trust someone, But I
- 12:29Speaker 1: don't think i'll ever that's an interesting. Yeah, like trying
- 12:32Speaker 1: to put that itself into a situation, and now we
- 12:42Speaker 1: have a kind of tipsy Gary approaching big. I just
- 12:45Speaker 1: came here to tell you that if you're embarrassed or
- 12:48Speaker 1: ashamed to be involved with me in any way, that
- 12:51Speaker 1: we can no longer see each other. I will say
- 12:54Speaker 1: I have been really emotional about something, and then I'm
- 12:56Speaker 1: just like let it all out. But it's also kind
- 12:59Speaker 1: of like her keeping it in to try to be
- 13:01Speaker 1: perfect and realizing, damn it, I can't be perfect. I
- 13:05Speaker 1: had that literal fight with my ex and it was
- 13:08Speaker 1: probably the death knell in our relationship, to be honest.
- 13:11Speaker 1: But we were at a brewery here and it just
- 13:14Speaker 1: like came out of me, out of nowhere where I
- 13:15Speaker 1: was like, I cannot be this person anymore where I'm
- 13:18Speaker 1: pretending to be okay because I'm not. He was like,
- 13:20Speaker 1: oh my god, let's go. Let's not have this fight
- 13:23Speaker 1: in front of a bunch of people. Yeah. So with
- 13:27Speaker 1: Carrie confronting I don't know, why are you ambrassed about me?
- 13:30Speaker 1: And he was like, well, I'm just learning this new
- 13:32Speaker 1: part of you. And by the way, she does this often,
- 13:35Speaker 1: which is alling about an unhealthy coping mechanism, keeping it in,
- 13:38Speaker 1: trying to be perfect but losing it ye which I've
- 13:42Speaker 1: done me too. I will build things up and I'll
- 13:45Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I'm done. But typically I am also
- 13:47Speaker 1: one of those that my buttons can be pushed too much.
- 13:50Speaker 1: But if you stopped pushing it and they started pushing
- 13:52Speaker 1: in the same one, then I'm gonna lose it. Yea. Yeah,
- 13:57Speaker 1: So he explains everything. He didn't know the dudes name,
- 14:00Speaker 1: so he's more about embarrassing I not known the dude's
- 14:02Speaker 1: name and the favorite Chinese food, and he's okay with
- 14:06Speaker 1: having sex call the first date and then saying, so
- 14:10Speaker 1: this is real. I like that conversation. I've actually I
- 14:13Speaker 1: had to have this conversation with a friend of mine
- 14:15Speaker 1: once where we she was like, are you mad at me?
- 14:17Speaker 1: And she was explaining why she thought I was mad
- 14:19Speaker 1: at her, and I was like, oh no, that was
- 14:21Speaker 1: literally like just all me stuff like that had nothing
- 14:25Speaker 1: to do with you, and I'm sorry. Apparently I hate this,
- 14:29Speaker 1: but people with high empathy feel that also high narcissism.
- 14:35Speaker 1: I don't know which one is one and the same,
- 14:38Speaker 1: but being like is this about me? Is it about me?
- 14:41Speaker 1: But for someone who feels like your tension, they think,
- 14:45Speaker 1: oh my god, it was at me. Are you mad
- 14:47Speaker 1: at me? What's happening? And then it's fearful of that
- 14:49Speaker 1: and this court of how they react. Empathetic people who
- 14:52Speaker 1: are going to be more likely to feel bad and
- 14:55Speaker 1: sorry and trying to make it up to you and
- 14:57Speaker 1: fix it. Narcissistic people are gonna get mad and turned
- 14:59Speaker 1: it around on you. Sure, yeah, I mean in this case, like,
- 15:04Speaker 1: I see why she thought that, but it was completely
- 15:07Speaker 1: just me. Uh, it's being stressed, to be honest, like
- 15:11Speaker 1: just stress. Yeah, okay, so you did pretty good. All right,
- 15:34Speaker 1: you did pretty good. That's Carrie was just what she
- 15:36Speaker 1: thought was the secret sex for sure, for sure, But
- 15:39Speaker 1: then it becomes a whole bigger thing, um, and we
- 15:43Speaker 1: find out that it's all in her head. Uh. It
- 15:46Speaker 1: also had a wordplay with Miranda where the secret sex
- 15:49Speaker 1: is what does he like is a secret type of sex?
- 15:52Speaker 1: Because it wasn't maybe he just had it for some reason.
- 15:56Speaker 1: And then we also have the friend who finally decided
- 15:59Speaker 1: to take it to the next level and bring her
- 16:01Speaker 1: out and she was like, you're too inhabited. He broke
- 16:04Speaker 1: up with him. Oh I don't you missed that because
- 16:07Speaker 1: we were talking. She broke up with him because she
- 16:12Speaker 1: had enough. Yeah, and good for her goods better than
- 16:16Speaker 1: being his secret shame because she's not pringing enough. How
- 16:19Speaker 1: dare you? I know? That was gorgeous. She was great,
- 16:23Speaker 1: and she had cheese and she had dreams of opening
- 16:26Speaker 1: a cheese shop. I mean, that's glorious. Let her have
- 16:30Speaker 1: our cheese shop. I want to see that alternate reality
- 16:35Speaker 1: course we see Sam and never having secret sex. She
- 16:38Speaker 1: just has sex and loves it. Yeah, that was one.
- 16:41Speaker 1: I was like, it's definitely not gonna be here. She's
- 16:42Speaker 1: gonna be happy about it. Okay, So any what do
- 16:47Speaker 1: you think about this episode? I enjoyed it. I feel
- 16:50Speaker 1: like a lot happens in a quick amount of time
- 16:53Speaker 1: in these episodes, Like they covered a lot of ground
- 16:57Speaker 1: going into four perspectives and only though we've only really
- 17:00Speaker 1: seen two perspectives in this show, but we only saw
- 17:02Speaker 1: Miranda and Carrie and the friend. Yeah Charlotte, who I
- 17:07Speaker 1: guess I just told about the Rabbi sacs like she
- 17:10Speaker 1: was part of that conversation. Per se. This is the
- 17:15Speaker 1: build up a big though, big and Carrie, I will
- 17:18Speaker 1: say that, Yeah, Yeah, it's interesting because I don't know
- 17:25Speaker 1: what happens, like, I know how it ends. Yeah, Um,
- 17:27Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's around a lot and on, off and on.
- 17:32Speaker 1: I know they have kind of a off and on
- 17:34Speaker 1: sort of thing. I know there's a at least one
- 17:37Speaker 1: other dude in the mix. But for someone like me,
- 17:41Speaker 1: when I watched something like this, I've never experienced that.
- 17:45Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't get it, And it kind of
- 17:49Speaker 1: is like almost voyeuristic, where I'm like, oh, what is
- 17:51Speaker 1: this life where you just see somebody and you're like that,
- 17:53Speaker 1: I gotta be with that person. I don't think it's
- 17:55Speaker 1: completely realistic. That's fair, So don't base it on that,
- 18:00Speaker 1: which is also part of the problems of romances in general.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Doesn't give a real reality of it all because we
- 18:08Speaker 1: do have this fantasy moment. I mean, especially when you
- 18:12Speaker 1: come to the very end. I was like, oh, this
- 18:13Speaker 1: is absolutely nonsense. People have a lot of opinions about
- 18:17Speaker 1: she ended up with the right person or not. Oh,
- 18:20Speaker 1: I know, even before I started, I've heard about that.
- 18:23Speaker 1: I was very curious if they would bring Aiden into
- 18:27Speaker 1: and just like that. But to be fair, I think
- 18:30Speaker 1: he was brought into a movie. Number two I think,
- 18:34Speaker 1: and I don't know what happened there. Yeah, yeah, I
- 18:38Speaker 1: mean that. You know, I can go on and on
- 18:40Speaker 1: about shipping and people having teams, but I do appreciate like,
- 18:45Speaker 1: even as somebody who's you know, never experienced this, perhaps
- 18:50Speaker 1: I can still relate to a lot of stuff you're
- 18:52Speaker 1: talking about. And I mean obviously we're having conversations about
- 18:55Speaker 1: our past relationships where we're like, oh yeah, I felt
- 18:57Speaker 1: that way or that way, and I think it's I know,
- 18:59Speaker 1: we stided it before. I think it's one of my
- 19:01Speaker 1: favorite things about the show is I'm like, oh yeah,
- 19:02Speaker 1: I can you can see it. I can relate to this,
- 19:05Speaker 1: and now I've had these conversations with my friends. Yeah yeah, yeah, again.
- 19:10Speaker 1: I love the dynamic of the friends. Yes, okay, well
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