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The Late Debate | 1 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, welcome the Late to Play. Thanks for joining
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  Speaker 1: us for a brand new week on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 1: I'm James MacPerson with Caleb Bond and Danika did Georgio.
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  Speaker 1: How was your weekend, Aneka?
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  Speaker 2: I was quite quiet.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I didn't do a lot this week, which was
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  Speaker 3: nice though the weather was much better and Sidney, thank
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  Speaker 3: goodness for that.
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  Speaker 1: I watched a football game the other night. Didn't care
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  Speaker 1: about either team, but it was so close. I actually
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  Speaker 1: was jumping off the couch humping my fist in the
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  Speaker 1: air for teams I didn't even care about. How do
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  Speaker 1: you explain that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, because it's the great game, that's why you know.
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  Speaker 1: You must have seen.
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  Speaker 5: You love the sport as well you should. It was
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  Speaker 5: a great week for my team, the Adelaide Crows.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't lose because it was a bye. We didn't
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  Speaker 4: actually play, so it was it was a.
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  Speaker 1: Good week in my team. North Melbourne also had a bye,
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  Speaker 1: but we were on the edge of our seat. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so there you go, All right, let's get into the show.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what's coming up tonight. London theater go is berated
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  Speaker 1: by an actress for texting during her show. Was a
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  Speaker 1: deserved rebuke Cord, does she just need to chill out?
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  Speaker 1: The Victorian government appears to have confused public health policy
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  Speaker 1: for a late night convenience store rolling out vending machines
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  Speaker 1: to dispense emergency overdose medication for drug addicts, and a
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  Speaker 1: woman is kicked out of a women's shed for suggesting
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  Speaker 1: that only women should be in the women's shed. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the latest example of gender confusion shortly, but first,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing financially at the moment? Probably not
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  Speaker 1: as well as the Prime Minister. I suspect Anthony Albanezi
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  Speaker 1: has quietly collected fifty seven thousand dollars in pay rises
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  Speaker 1: since moving into the lodge just four years ago. His
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  Speaker 1: cellery's gone from five hundred and sixty four thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: to six hundred and twenty two grand. Now he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: set his wage, and I think our politicians should be
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  Speaker 1: paid well, but I reckon it would annoy people that
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  Speaker 1: while the PM's wage is going through the roof, so
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  Speaker 1: too is everybody's power bill up forty one percent since
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  Speaker 1: Elbow won office, and a loaf of bread that's up
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  Speaker 1: twenty two percent, which means you won't have much money
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  Speaker 1: left over for your mortgage, of which median house prices
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  Speaker 1: have risen twenty seven percent since labor One government. So
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  Speaker 1: should we be upset hearing about Elbow's pay rise or
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  Speaker 1: does he deserve a pay increase the same as everybody
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  Speaker 1: else the maker.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the timing is absolutely shocking for a
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  Speaker 3: pay rise, given that this is a prime minister who
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  Speaker 3: told us that our bills would go down by two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five dollars, that life would be easy
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  Speaker 3: under Anthony Albanezi and my word is my Bond one
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  Speaker 3: of Caleb Bond's favorite lines. And now this guy is
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  Speaker 3: getting a pay rise of what was it, fifty seven
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't pass the pub test in this climate.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I am not disregarding the fact that being a
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  Speaker 3: prime minister of a country would be a very difficult
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  Speaker 3: and demanding job because you do have to be on
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  Speaker 3: call twenty four to seven.
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  Speaker 1: So not even Anthony Abberesi can do it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's a good point, and I'm not denying that
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  Speaker 3: it would come. You know, you would get calls in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the night, you'd be up early, you'd.
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  Speaker 2: Be home late.
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  Speaker 3: I completely understand that, but right now, your average Joe
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  Speaker 3: out there is struggling to make ends meet under this
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  Speaker 3: cost of living crisis, which, as you said, you've gone
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  Speaker 3: through the stats there have gotten progressively worse and worse
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  Speaker 3: under labor.
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  Speaker 2: It's a shocking look in my view, it's just shocking.
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  Speaker 5: But what do they meant to do about it? Because
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  Speaker 5: politicians don't set their own pay rights. It's done by
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  Speaker 5: the Remuneration Tribunal, which is an independent body. They make
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  Speaker 5: the decisions about whether or not there is a pay
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  Speaker 5: rise and how much a pay rise is, which in
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  Speaker 5: this case, over the term of his Prime ministership has
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  Speaker 5: been about ten percent, which I believe is actually lower
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  Speaker 5: than inflation over that time. Inflation that's time more than
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  Speaker 5: twelve percent, So in effect, the Prime Minister has actually
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  Speaker 5: taken a pay cut.
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  Speaker 4: In real terms.
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  Speaker 5: He's not had any real wage growth in that time.
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  Speaker 5: The number will look bigger always because he's the Prime minister.
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  Speaker 5: And if you get a three percent pay rise from
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  Speaker 5: a base of five hundred grand, well it's going to
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  Speaker 5: be a lot more in dollars than a three percent
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  Speaker 5: pay rise for someone on fifty grand, So you can't
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  Speaker 5: get around that. But they don't set their own pay rates.
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  Speaker 5: So I just these stories come up every twelve months,
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  Speaker 5: and I find it really hard to get angry about them,
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  Speaker 5: because what.
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  Speaker 4: Do they meant to do about it.
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  Speaker 5: I suppose everyone gets a pay rise and the Prime
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  Speaker 5: Minister as much as anyone else deserves.
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  Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. It just sticks in the claw when
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  Speaker 1: the country is going so badly, And you're right, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't set the wage, he doesn't appoint the time at
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  Speaker 1: which that's appropriated to him. But when everyone's doing it tough,
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  Speaker 1: And don't forget, he's one of the best paid leaders
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  Speaker 1: in the world. He earns more than the UK Prime ministry,
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  Speaker 1: he earns a lot more than the French president, he
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  Speaker 1: earns more than the US president marginally, and he's got
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  Speaker 1: basically no living expenses. Pretty much everything is paid for.
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  Speaker 1: So he's on a very good wicket while everyone else
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  Speaker 1: is struggling. So can you hold two positions at the
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  Speaker 1: same time. On the one hand, it's fair, it's got
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  Speaker 1: nothing to do with him. Leaders deserve it, but it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty bad optics and it doesn't feel good when most
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  Speaker 1: of the country is struggling because of decisions his government
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  Speaker 1: is making.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly and this is the point, right, And I think
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  Speaker 3: I do think people go into politics and I don't
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  Speaker 3: necessarily think I'm going to be a multimillionaire overnight, and
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  Speaker 3: we do.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there are probably people that.
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  Speaker 3: Do go into it for the money, but I think
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  Speaker 3: people do go into it to be a strong politician,
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  Speaker 3: to have strength of conviction. And it's only those politicians
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  Speaker 3: with strength, strength and conviction that you go, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: they deserve a payrise because they're speaking for me, they're
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  Speaker 3: speaking to my voter base, they understand my needs.
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  Speaker 2: But this Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 3: I would beg to differ clearly the budget that was
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  Speaker 3: just handed down. He's got absolutely no idea about the
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  Speaker 3: needs of the majority of Australians right now. So it
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  Speaker 3: is you're right, it's the optics of it. In this
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  Speaker 3: cost of living crisis, it just looks poor.
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  Speaker 4: But what do you do about it?
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  Speaker 2: Then? Well, I don't know what you do about it.
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  Speaker 2: But the question is is he deserving of a pay rise?
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  Speaker 3: The answer is no, I don't believe he is deserving
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  Speaker 3: of a pay rise at all, because I think what
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  Speaker 3: has he actually done to improve our life and what
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  Speaker 3: has he done to improve the lives of Australians and
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  Speaker 3: make us a better country. In fact, we're a poorer
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  Speaker 3: country since he's been in charge.
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  Speaker 1: I guess Australians desired every four years. Whether he deserves
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  Speaker 1: further pay rises or not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's it. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 4: He's got an absolute RiPP, didn't he.
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  Speaker 5: Now let's talk about something slightly lighter, but something that
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  Speaker 5: may well have annoyed you as it has annoyed me before.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you know, you go to the theater, we
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  Speaker 5: go see a show or something, and there's that one
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  Speaker 5: person who's always on their phone. But the whole time
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  Speaker 5: they're on their phone, or they're sending a text, or
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  Speaker 5: they're doing and it's you know, you're in a dark
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  Speaker 5: theater and it lights up. It's just annoying.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, for goodness sake, you've gone to the theater.
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  Speaker 5: Surely for a couple of hours you can put your
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  Speaker 5: phone away and enjoy what is in front of you.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I may have on one or two occasions been at
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  Speaker 5: a concert and decided to check the football score, but
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  Speaker 5: that took me all of ten seconds. Right, These people
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  Speaker 5: just sit there all the time on their phone. It's
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  Speaker 5: so in a why have you bought a ticket to
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  Speaker 5: go and watch a live show and you're sitting there
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  Speaker 5: on your telephone. Well, I'm not the only person who
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  Speaker 5: gets annoyed by this. Rosamund Pack, an actress in England,
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  Speaker 5: is similarly annoyed by this experience.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 5: She's been performing recently in Bloody Lost the name of
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  Speaker 5: the show Into Alia, which was written by an Australian playwright,
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  Speaker 5: actually Susie Miller. But she's been performing in England and
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  Speaker 5: the other night she came out after the end of
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  Speaker 5: the show and people thought it was so they could give.
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  Speaker 4: Her a round of applause.
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  Speaker 5: No, it was shows she could berate an audience member
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  Speaker 5: for being on their phone. One of the people who
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  Speaker 5: was there posted about it on x and he said,
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  Speaker 5: just got out of seeing Into Alia in London. It
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  Speaker 5: was an amazing show. But huge props to Rosamund Pack
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  Speaker 5: for calling out someone for texting. She took time during
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  Speaker 5: the curtain call to point out how unacceptable it is,
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  Speaker 5: especially during a pivotal scene. The actors are giving a
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  Speaker 5: live performance right in front of you.
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  Speaker 4: Put your phone away for a couple of hours.
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  Speaker 5: Here exactly what I just said, And another audience member
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  Speaker 5: said she suggested that spotting someone texting in the climax
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  Speaker 5: of this devastatingly emotional play broke this bond. She seemed
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  Speaker 5: genuinely upset. I reckon, I be a bit upset too.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm putting mail all into a
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  Speaker 5: good performance and there's Schmack in the audience playing around
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  Speaker 5: on his phone. I mean, are our attention spans so
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  Speaker 5: short now that we can't even sit through a couple
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  Speaker 5: of hours at the theater with an intermission? Mind you,
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  Speaker 5: most of the time, so you do actually have some
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  Speaker 5: time in the middle to go and fiddle with your
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  Speaker 5: phone if you want. I think it's rude. You've gone
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  Speaker 5: to watch the performers, and they deserve the respect of
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  Speaker 5: you actually watching them, not sitting there on your phone.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a bit dramatic. I mean, calm down.
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  Speaker 3: What she came back out just to berate an audience member,
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  Speaker 3: For goodness sake?
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  Speaker 2: Does she have to do that? Seriously? Calm down now.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I'll be the first to admit I agree. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think it is appropriate to be sitting there on
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  Speaker 3: your phone at a theater or same when you're in
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  Speaker 3: the movies. There's nothing worse when it's pitch black in
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  Speaker 3: the movies and then suddenly somebodies on their phone. But
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  Speaker 3: we don't know the circumstances surrounding this. What happens if
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  Speaker 3: that person was just literally sending off a quick text
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  Speaker 3: message because there was an emergency, there was something that
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  Speaker 3: they needed to know, there was pivotal information that needed
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  Speaker 3: to be communicated between two people. We don't know the
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  Speaker 3: circumstances of this. So for her to come out and decide, oh, well,
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  Speaker 3: it's completely ruined by night. Well, surely as an actor
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  Speaker 3: you would have the skills to be able to hone
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  Speaker 3: in and focus on your craft and not be worried
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  Speaker 3: about everything else that's going on around you. I just
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  Speaker 3: think that was just petty on her partner. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying that the audience member was in the right here.
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  Speaker 3: I totally agree, But we don't know the circumstances between
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  Speaker 3: Oh look, I'm just going to pick my phone up
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  Speaker 3: very quickly, respond to a text message and put it
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  Speaker 3: back down.
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  Speaker 1: God come now, I suspect for such, and I agree
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  Speaker 1: it's a pretty dramatic action. Not for me to call
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  Speaker 1: a woman dramatic. You can use those words, but come
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  Speaker 1: on right away from dear be honest, but I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if this might have been the straw that broke the
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  Speaker 1: camel's back. It sounds to me like when you're putting
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  Speaker 1: on these shows, it's night after night after night, and
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if maybe, having seen this for the tenth, eleven,
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  Speaker 1: twelfth time, she finally thinks I've had enough. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to educate the audience a little bit. And I'm a
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  Speaker 1: little bit sympathetic to this because there's, firstly, there's a
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  Speaker 1: massive decline in manners. And I'm not just talking about
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  Speaker 1: the theater, but how many times are you having conversations
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  Speaker 1: with people these days who texting while you're talking, or
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  Speaker 1: they're scrolling while you're chatting, or you sit with family.
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  Speaker 1: You see it with young people all the time. But
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  Speaker 1: worse than the decline in manners, which really is a
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  Speaker 1: lack of respect, is the fact that we're never fully
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  Speaker 1: present anymore. People are always multitasking constantly, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure how we correct it, but it tends to undervalue everything.
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  Speaker 1: And I think she felt genuinely undervalued. Here. I'm performing
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  Speaker 1: my art and you can't even give me your full
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  Speaker 1: attention without presumably checking the football scores or checking out
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  Speaker 1: someone sourdough on Instagram or whatever the case.
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  Speaker 3: But it's one person sending a text message, and she
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  Speaker 3: would get a packed out theater every single night, because
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  Speaker 3: from what I've read about this particular production, apparently it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: The reviews have been absolutely amazing, and she's taken it personally.
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  Speaker 3: One person out of a show every single night, a
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  Speaker 3: packed out theater of hundreds, if not a thousand people like,
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  Speaker 3: come on, but we took me a fish and fry here,
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  Speaker 3: like who cares?
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  Speaker 5: But we're talking about I would care if I was
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  Speaker 5: the person sitting next to it, So.
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  Speaker 2: You would be offended.
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  Speaker 3: I would if I was performing, you would make a
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  Speaker 3: song and dance about it.
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  Speaker 5: If I was the person sitting next to that person
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  Speaker 5: and they've got their phone out with the brightness on
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  Speaker 5: full blast, sending a text message while I'm trying to
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  Speaker 5: watch the show, yeah, I'd be pissed off. And I'd
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  Speaker 5: be glad that she got up there and told that
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  Speaker 5: person not to do it, because it is annoying, particularly,
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  Speaker 5: as I say, when the brightness is all the way
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  Speaker 5: up from the stage, it would stick out like dog's bollocks.
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  Speaker 5: And if the person sitting next to them. It'd be
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  Speaker 5: really annoying.
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  Speaker 4: Don't do it. It's disrespect if you're.
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  Speaker 3: On stage, actually you actually have there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: lights on the stage, so I uys, in the first world,
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  Speaker 3: has she even spotted this.
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  Speaker 1: One per Really it was obvious wells that has ruined
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  Speaker 1: Ary could to say, I'm imagining this right because she
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  Speaker 1: didn't point out the person. She looked in the general
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  Speaker 1: direction and spoke generally. But imagine if you were there
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  Speaker 1: as she's berating the audience generally, you would have been
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  Speaker 1: sitting there going.
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  Speaker 5: Nah, yeah, the offender, you know, seriously, Like, people just
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  Speaker 5: don't have respect for other people anymore. It's almost like
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  Speaker 5: and part of it, I think is because of the
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  Speaker 5: advent of technology, and perhaps we're not as connected as
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  Speaker 5: we used to be literally connected, like personally, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you can be connected to anyone on any any corner
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  Speaker 5: of the earth now, right, so you can talk to
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  Speaker 5: whoever you want, whenever you want. But we don't spend
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  Speaker 5: as much time together and so maybe we've lost the
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  Speaker 5: ability to look at the people next to us and go, oh,
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  Speaker 5: I'm in a public place. Maybe I should be decent
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  Speaker 5: in the way I behaved it's just like we've forgotten
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  Speaker 5: how to do it. It's the same as people on
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  Speaker 5: public transport who put their eggs on the seat.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: You're in a public place. We're all trying to get
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  Speaker 5: to the same destination here. Just have a bit of
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  Speaker 5: respect for the people around you while we do it.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Do you know I was at Woolworth's last week.
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  Speaker 2: This is just jog my memory.
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  Speaker 3: And you know the self service checkout areas, the place
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  Speaker 3: where you put your own bags. There was a guy
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  Speaker 3: who was using the checkout next to him, but he
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  Speaker 3: was sitting on.
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  Speaker 2: The bag area.
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  Speaker 1: We're sitting and scanning.
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  Speaker 2: He was sitting and scared, and I went over to it,
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  Speaker 2: you see.
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  Speaker 1: But for me, wait, so you like a prima donna
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  Speaker 1: actress who has.
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  Speaker 3: I said, excuse me, I'm sorry, do you need this
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  Speaker 3: as a seat because the light there's a queue right
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  Speaker 3: now and I'd like to scan my items and get
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  Speaker 3: out of here.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I'm so sorry. No perception whatsoever?
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  Speaker 3: Now that would be an annoyance that that is having
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  Speaker 3: absolutely zero spatial awareness out you being completely zomkeed out
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  Speaker 3: to the world around you where you need to sit there.
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  Speaker 1: But I just think come on like Anika, that is
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  Speaker 1: such an over you just need to chill out. Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I want to scan my eggs and get the heck
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  Speaker 2: out of there.
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  Speaker 5: You wouldn't call a woman dramatic, but you'll tell a
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  Speaker 5: woman to chill out and till out.
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  Speaker 4: That's telling a woman to calm.
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: Down is one of the most dangerous things you can domes.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, I think you did it once and it
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  Speaker 4: didn't end well.
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  Speaker 1: I do remember that episode.
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  Speaker 2: Let me say, if you told me to calm down,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be offended.
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  Speaker 1: James Denika, I think you always react perfectn that's not
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  Speaker 1: what you.
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  Speaker 2: Say to me. Okay, look, let's move on now.
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  Speaker 3: It is a pre filled nasal spray whereby it can
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: temporarily reverse an opioid overdose. So you can have this
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: in particular medication, even if you're not sure whether someone
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: has taken opioids.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: But the government is rolling this out across Victoria.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a trial twenty dispensing machines across
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: the state. They'll be available twenty four to seven and
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: each packet contains two nasal sprays with one dose each,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: and from what I understand about it, sometimes more than
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: one dose is required to reverse one single overdose.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Now look, I'm baffled of this.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: So first we've got machette bins to deal with the
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: machete bin the machete crisis, and now we've got vending
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: machines to deal with the opioid crisis. Is this a
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Victorian government that's just completely running out of ideas, so
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: is running at hoc and at a cost of ninety
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: five million dollars for a state that is already broke
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: and backwards.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: This is unbelievable.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Now, wouldn't the solution be if there is an overdose problem,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: which there is. Victoria last year recorded the highest number
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: of fatal overdoses in a decade, and even the ice
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: epidemic is at unprecedented levels. So cartels are absolutely exploiting
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: the market. Then wouldn't the solution be to go after
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: the cartels, try and deal with the issues that are
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: bringing drugs into the state in the first place, deal
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: with the drug dealers, deal with the drugs on the street.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: And again it comes back down to the crime crisis.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Does it not that this Victorian government doesn't seem to
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: want to understand, because in my view, if you are
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: saying to people, look, if you're having an overdose, don't worry.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: There's something available for you. Here's your venue machine, it's free.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Off you go, go and get your nasal spray. Well,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: the cycle continues, does it not, because then you're going
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: to go and get opioids again, and if you overdose,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: he goes air Right, I've got a nose spray in
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: my bag.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: It's the nanny state on autopilot instead of addressing the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: issue of addiction. We've got safe injecting rooms and if
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: you don't manage to make it to the Richmond Primary School,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the injecting room is right next door. Then don't worry.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: We've provided a vending machine so that when you do overdose,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: you will be okay. And we're all for looking after
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: people in difficult situations, including those who have overdosed. You
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: don't want to see anyone die from an overdose. But
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: is it not better to have a fence at the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: top of the cliff rather than a whole lot of
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: ambulances at the bottom. And ultimately this is going to
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: cost Victorian taxpayers more, is it not? Because rather than
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: solving the drug issue, it I think tends to enable
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: the drug issue because it sends a message that you
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: can do what you want and if there's any adverse consequences,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: mother government will be there to take care of you.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: You don't have to change your behavior, you keep making
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: bad choices and will mop up any adverse reaction. I
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: just don't know that it's good policy works from a
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: matter of compassion and care. But is it not more
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: compassionate and more caring to say to people you shouldn't
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: be doing that in the first place, and we're going
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: to try and make sure that you don't go down
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: that path, and we're certainly not going to encourage it.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Well, this is the problem, right, I mean, it demonstrates
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: what a situation victory is in, isn't it When it's
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: the one state where they need to have vending machines
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: to reverse heroin overdoses. I don't know whether that's been
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: induced by the government. Maybe people are using heroin to
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: cope with the fact that we've got the Boody Andrew
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: slash Allen labor government in that state. Who knows, but
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: you know, as a value proposition, ninety five million dollars
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: to save the lives of heroin addicts who've already overdosed,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: I mean great value. If you want to save the
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: life of a heroin addict, get them off heroin, clean
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: them up. That is a far better value proposition. Turn
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: them into a productive member of society. You don't say, well,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: we'll spend ninety five million dollars. They can get whacked
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: on heroin and then have a bit of nasal spray
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: and you'll be fine. Oh, these people are clearly if
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: they're heroin addicts, not adding a lot of value to society.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: Clean their act up, get them off drugs, get them
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: into a job, get them into a house, Let them
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: be a productive member of society, and you'll do far
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: more good for them and everyone else than you will
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: blowing ninety five million dollars with vending machines for stuff
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: to reverse heroin overdoses. They shouldn't be overdosing in the
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: first place.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: And that's the problem with the Ellen government. Right to
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: address crime, they put out you mentioned machete bins, which
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: is symbolism because no game members went and handed in
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: their weapons. It was good law abiding people who thought, well,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: we'd better do the right thing. So it was a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: symbolic gesture to say, look, we're doing something about crime,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: when as we all know, it's had no effect on
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: crime whatsoever. This is exactly the same. It's a symbolic
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: attempt to say, look, we're trying to do something about
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: the drug problem, while essentially doing nothing at all to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: correct the drug problem. While we're in Victoria. In Ballarat,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in fact, the home of the Victorian Premiere, there's an
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: issue with their women's shed. And they've heard of men's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: sheds they've sprung up around the country where guys can
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: go and hang out together and talk about mental health
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: issues and so on. It's a good initiative. Well, women's
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: sheds have started springing up, there's one in Ballarat. But
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: all is not well in the women's shed because a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: former board member has now been banned from the Women's
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Shed in Ballarat after making allegedly discriminating comments about transgender members.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: So the former board member was evicted from the Women's
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Shed on Wednesday after saying that women were not safe
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: in the presence of transgender women or biological men identifying
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: as women. The president of the Women's Shed in Ballarat,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Sophie Potter, said that this former board member indicated that
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: women in the Shed are not safe because of having
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: trans members. We have been open to trans and gender
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: diverse people from the beginning and they are definitely safe
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and welcoming members of the Shed the same as everybody else. Now,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: when this conversation was alleged to have taken place, there
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: were no trans or gender diverse people in the Shed,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: so they would never have known this conversation happened, except
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that the president went on social media to make sure
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that everybody knows trans people and gender diverse folk are
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: welcome in the Shed. Despite this conversation that happened, that
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: nobody knew about it until it was broadcast online. There's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a couple of things that concerned me here. Firstly, questioning
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: gender ideology is now misconduct that gets you booted out
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: of the club. We're not told exactly what was said.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: There's a broad brush statement that apparently there's a comment
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: about women not being safe with men who identify as
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: women being around, which would lead me to my second observation.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: The former book member has been told if you return
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to the women's shed, we will call police. So now
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: suddenly disagreement is a security issue for saying something that
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: we would have taken for granted ten fifteen years ago.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Now it's a matter where if you repeat that, we'll
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: be straight on triple O calling police. Here have you removed?
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, the escalation is just absolute insanity, isn't it. Well,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: careful you might get hold in front of a court,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: just like Sal Grover.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: It might be that would be the next versus Tickle. No,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: but seriously, and that this is the problem.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: You make comments like this these days and suddenly oh no,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: you're transphobic, you're discriminatory, and suddenly you're holding in front
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: of a tribunal. What bothers me the most about this
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: is these women's sheds, right, they are meant to be
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: a I would argue, a safe place for women to
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: forge friendships, for belonging. They do arts and crafts, they
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: learn woodwork skills, for example. And there are many women
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: that go there, you know, just for social aspects, but
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: there would be other women who are new to the community,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: maybe some survivors of domestic sexual abuse who go there too.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: They want to feel belonging. So when a valid point,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and there is a valid point is raised when you
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: are in what is meant to be a safe space
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: for women, that you don't want a biological man around. Now,
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: again we don't know the context of the discussion, but
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: should it have been something like I don't feel comfortable
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: being in a women's only space in the presence of
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: biological men.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that that is a fair argument.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: That's not controversial to me at all, just like it
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: is should be a right of a woman to enter
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: a toilet or a chain room and a biological man
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: is not there. So the irony of this that they
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: have booted her out of a woman's only space, it
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. Secondly, I love how this President Sophie
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Potter used gender neutual terms in that statement that you
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: just read out. Jab they indicated that women in the
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: shed are not safe. They or we better just say
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: they just in case she's not a she her. We've
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: got a big care. We don't miss gender or give
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the wrong pronouns. Seriously, if you cannot be safe now
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: as a woman in a woman's shad, which is a wonderful,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: wonderful community initiative, we are so backwards in this country.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: We're a joke.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: It's amazing, isn't it.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Just before I come back to that, I just want
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: to share a viewer email of had about the last
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: topic we were talking about, which was the vending machines
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: for the anti heroine stuff in Victoria. And they say,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: my mum works for vic Ambo's and she's had many
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: experiences of giving people that drug to reverse the overdose
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: and they fight not to take it because it stuff's
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: the high. So wow, there's an angle I hadn't thought of.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I wonder what the willingness would be of some people
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: to actually use the drug if they could, because they're
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: presumably enjoying the experience they have. But coming back to
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: this discussion, you know the ABC and their report about
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: this and why this woman has been kicked out of
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: the woman's shed for saying that only women should be
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: in the women's shed, said the woman was evicted from
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: the building on Wednesday after attempting to spread misinformation about
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: transgender women.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, they make it sound like she went out
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: with a big.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Megaphone or something and said I don't like trans people
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: or something, which is clearly not what happened. You would think,
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: of all the places that you were safe as a
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: woman to say that only women should be allowed in
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: the building, it would be a building that had women
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: written on the front of it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: But no, apparently not.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: And as you point out, Danika, they then refer to
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: this woman, and it seys in the story multiple times
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: that the woman was evicted, and then all this business
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: about they. I mean, why how could you be on
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: the board or the president of a women's shed and
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: not know that women should be referred to as her
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: or she? What's the point of they? Look, I'm not aware.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Maybe there were other women who were excluded at the
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: same time, and so she's using they to mean plural.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the only logical explanation in this situation, right.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Why would you trip over yourself to talk about a
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: person who was on the board of a women's shed
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: being they and not she her, particularly when they're identified
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: as a woman.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: You know, it just goes back to what is a woman?
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: It is the hardest our time when you've got you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: last week we saw the Sex Discrimination Commissioner and a
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Cody suggesting that biological men could potentially be pregnant. You've
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: got the Human Rights Commission hughter Cresta saying what is
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: a woman? An adult female and that includes trans women.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You know, you've got staff at the Office for the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Minister of Women. When Malcolm Roberts referred to biological women,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: they literally laughed in his face and said, quote unquote,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: what does that even mean? Sarcastically, as if he was
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: some dinosaur or some relic of the past who knew nothing. Yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: because he dared to talk about biological sex.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: That's where we are in this country. We really are
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: the laughing stock. We're a joke.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Well, just just before we move on, o calib you
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: made a very important point the ABC. It's less journalism
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: than activism, even in this report where they talk about
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: misinformation and we're just expected to take the ABC's word
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: for it. That and then later and they refer to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the incident occurred, the incident someone had an opinion. No, No,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: it's an incident that occurred just weeks after a federal
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: court ruling that you know, it's activism on the part
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: of the ABC more than reporting.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: I would ask, yeah, I agree with you.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: While we're talking about matters of gender, can you believe
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: over at the ADF Now, as though the ADF wasn't
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: in enough of a pickle, they are allowing people to
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: take the fitness tests because there are different fitness tests
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: for men and women on the basis of the gender
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: they identify as. So the simple facts of biology seem
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: to have escaped the military in this country as well.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: According to training documents from the ADF, they say, if
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: they have not yet transitioned, this is obviously a perspective
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: soldier or some such, but intend to do so, the
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: applicant may make a choice, but those transitioning to male
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: are to be advised that they will be required to
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: pass the male assessment standards. So if you're a biological
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: woman who wants.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: To be a man, you have to do the male test.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: But if you are a biological man who says you
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: want to be a woman, well you are allowed to
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: do the female test, which obviously is an easier test
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: than the male test. And the absence of a non
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: gender specific test. Non binary applicants may make a choice
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: that is best aligned with service and job preference. ADF
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: members are to adhere to the physical fitness standards of
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: their affirmed gender. Now, look, I would have thought that
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: as a military you would be looking for the best, fittest,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: strongest people for the job. And I'm not sure we
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: really achieve that when we say, well, a bloke can
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: say he's a sheiler and he gets to do the
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: shealer's test, which obviously is of a lower standard than
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: the male test.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: So wouldn't he be the fittest woman.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Indeed, absolutely quite correct, and you know, pass with flying colors.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: But I mean, this is ridiculous, to be honest, I
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: don't know why they're even testing them at all, because
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: I don't think that transgender people should be in active service.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: There might be jobs for them, you know, clerical jobs
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: or whatever in the military, but I think there's a
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: real duty of care to soldiers. And we're a lot
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: more aware today of the damage that combat does to people,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: and people come back from war with their minds really
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: mixed up.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Quite often, not everyone, but it does happen.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: We know that the suicide rates of people in the military, right,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: and transgender people have or are suffering from a diagnosable
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: mental condition which is gendered. And so I reckon, you're
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: setting these people up in some ways by saying we've
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: got someone that we know has a history of mental
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: conditions and we're going to send.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Them off to serve in the military. I don't think
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: that's good for them, and I.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Don't think it's good for us, because we should be
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: looking for the strongest people mentally possible.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry if that's harsh to hear, but it's just
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: the facts.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know why we're accepting them in the first place,
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: but the fact that you can then dictate what tests
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: you want to do on the basis of your chosen gender, like,
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: come on, So.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: You make a really good point. The argument for trying
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to broaden the standards by which people can get into
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the ADF is so that we attract more people, because
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: obviously recruitment's a problems, so we want to make it
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: as diverse and as inclusive as possible. However, are you
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: really attracting the best talent for the reasons you mentioned,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: And secondly, not just because they often require a lot
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: of medication? Because they're going through a transition, and also
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: because they may well be battling with different mental health
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: challenges which we would all have sympathy for. But also
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: this is a generalization, but this is an example of it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: A lot of people who are identifying as a gender
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: other than their biological gender seem to be quite demanding.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I want to be called by these pronouns. I need
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: to go to these spaces. I need to be judged
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: by this criteria rather than the existing criteria, which is
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: all about me, me, me, when the ADF is all
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: about fall in line, do as you're told. At if
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I say jump, you say how high? It's a very
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: different sort of army when you are trying to placate
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: your troops by offering this instead of that. Is this
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: more convenient for you? When you go to conflict, they
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: don't ask your pronouns before they shoot, and so you're
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: setting up an army that is ill equipped. I would
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: argue for what their purpose is, which is to go
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and fight to the bloody death to win a war.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I think our enemies like China would be laughing
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: at us right now. They're going this is terrific. Keep
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: arguing over DEI and woke policies. That's great, We'll just
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: keep circling and firing off live fire exercises off your
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: coast while you sit and squabble over this. And seriously,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: in the middle of battle, right, and you're in the
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: middle of a battlefield, are you turning to your comrade
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: going chap, sorry, are you he?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Him? Are you she? Her? Are you z z? You know?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: What are your pronouns? Sorry?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: So I don't missgender you while we're trying to fight
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: our enemy.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: On the battlefield.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Look, this is absolutely just what message does this send?
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: What message are we sending right now to the world.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: To me, this looks like we are ill prepared for war.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: We are so preoccupied with this woke nonsense that we
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: are not even arming ourselves with the right people, the
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: strongest personnel, so that in the event that war came
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: to our doorstep or we had to go and fight
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: in a war, we would be better prepared. But this
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: has been going on for ages that the recruitment process
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: as well. In the ADF asks you for your pronouns.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: It asks you if you're lgbt IQ plus or if
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: you're non binary. Do you remember there was that Harmony
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Day cookbook last year, the gender neutral terms for certain
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: military items.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Just it's a joke.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: You see that our enemies are laughing at us, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: our allies must be frustrated with us because no transgender
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: people can participate in learning how to crewe nuclear submarines
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: because the US military will not allow transgendered people to serve.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: So our allies are frustrated as well with this social
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: engineering happening. Do it wherever you want, but don't do
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: it in defense.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: In one place, it should not be happening to our pronouns.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, the problem with serving in the military is
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: you know one minute you can be him or she her,
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: and next thing you'll be was were. And that's why
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: you want the person next to you to be the
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: best person for the job, because you've all got to
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: have each other's backs, and you'd like to think that
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: it's the strongest and the fittest and the most able
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: who are there to serve with you, because when things
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: go wrong, unless you have the right people for the job,
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: they can go really wrong.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: And that really worries me completely agree.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Well, look priority queues at theme parks in Paris, like Disneyland,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: for example, are now full of Brits who are using
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: their disability diagnosis to skip the queue. But that also
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: includes ADHD, depression and anxiety.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Would you believe yes, that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Is actually considered as part of a disability diagnosis in
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Britain and it is being used to skip lines.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: At theme parks.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: There was this fascinating article in the Telegraph over in
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: the UK and it talks about how on this one
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: hot day at Disneyland in Paris, the queue to collect
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: the disabled pass in the line was barely budging. It
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: says this most of the people in the queue look
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: and sound British. One is holding a letter from the
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Department of Work and Pensions. Many are wearing sunflower lanyards
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: to indicate that their disability is invisible. Behind me, I
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: hear an english woman complaining that the whole point of
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: getting a disability pass is to not have a queue.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Now here is the issue.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: In order to get such passes, these accessibility passes, visitors
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: must produce proof. But the list of possible disabilities in
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: Britain is much longer than they are in other countries.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Now many claimants are of what is called a personal
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: independence payment. They have no mobility issues.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: At all.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: And if we just bring up this graph, you can
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: see how over the years since twenty nineteen the steady
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: increase in the amount of people who have actually been
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: granted this pass but suffer from psychological conditions, not physical disabilities.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: They're suffering with anxiety and ADHD, and one hundred Britain's
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: a day as of January are being awarded this particular pass.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is just absolutely out of control.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Clearly Britain is in the grips of this over diagnosis crisis.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: And I do agree that there are people who would
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: go to these theme parks and they absolutely are worthy
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: of having assistance. They have a disability, they're in wheelchairs,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: they need fantastic skip the queue and enjoy the day
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: as best you can. But if you have got ADHD,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: depression or anxiety, quite frankly, you're taking the piece, all right,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: You're absolutely taking the mickey. This is this is you
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: do not need a disability pass to go and skip
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: the queue because you've got depression.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Come on, what about So I've spent three hours lining
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: up for some ride at Disneyland, and I'm pretty depressed
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: that I've waited all that time and.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I now go and get my pass to go to
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: the front of the line, please.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: You know, part of me does say, well, it's only
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: a rut if you're not in on it. And if
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: someone offered you the opportunity to go to the front
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: of the line because you had ADHD, would you say
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: no to them?
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Probably not.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: So I'm at Disneyland right and I want to go
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: on the roller coaster and it's you know, it's a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: roller coaster. It's so high and you go straight down
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you feel like you're gonna die. But I've got anxiety,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: so I go to get a special pass so that
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: because of my anxiety I can get on the death
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: defying roller coaster faster. That doesn't make any sense at all.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: You should be staying well away from that thing. Clearly,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: over diagnosis is overloading the system. And it was funny
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to read this article where disabled people were complaining that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the line for disabled people to get on the ride
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: was actually longer than the ride for able bodied people.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: So there you go. We're going to go to a break.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: including Gold Coast house prices set to overtake Sydney house
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: prices within the next twelve months. That and more in
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: just a moment. All right, welcome back to the program.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow, so
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you get it all here first, Daniki, you've got the
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph, I.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Do in front of all news court papers. Tomorrow you'll
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: see this picture and this story.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Bush matters.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Have your say as National Summit returns. The largest conversation
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: between the Bush and the nation's powerbrokers starts today as
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: News Corp Australia launches it's twenty twenty six Bush Summit campaign.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Regional Australians can have their say on issues that matter
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: most in a new poll which will help frame debate
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the annual forum to be held in Dubbo on August
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: twenty six and twenty seven. The Bush has been knocked
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: about by the Iran War. The conflict has deepened uncertainty
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: for a vital slice of Australia that endures and thrives
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: despite perennial uncertainties.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: No issue is off the table.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Look, you know, the Bush Summit is a really genuinely
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: fantastic initiative because we do we know our regions are
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: the heart and soul. That the lifeblood of this country.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: They keep us going and they are facing pretty tough hardships.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: As we know, there's a fertilizers to crisis still ongoing.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: There is still a shortage of diesel. It is tough
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: out there. So do have your say. As I said
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: August twenty sixth and twenty seven in Dubbo and News,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Court wants to hear from these regional voices.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: You know the session I would love to go to
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: and to his credit, he always turns up for these
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: but anthey, Albanezi will be at a session. I would
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: love to be a fly on the wall for the
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: reception he gets from country people when he turned well.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: He hasn't mean.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I remember last year he was booed. I think it
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: was actually in Regional Victoria, the one that was held there.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: It was, it was pretty cunning. And they also want
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: have to just send to Allen that day.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Too, and the mood is hotter now.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know so often people in the bush don't
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: get a fair shake of the sauce bottle, or as
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: Kevin Rudd would say, a fair suck of the sauce bottle.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: So let's see how it all goes on the front
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: of The Australian Tomorrow. It says, oh, how's this for
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: a headline? Sexy little number that conceals are modest? Hey,
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: what have we here the Albanesi government. Ah, that's a
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: bit boring, isn't it? I was expecting something a bit
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: more solacious. The Albanesi government has been accused of cooking
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: the books by using more than ten billion dollars in
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: veterans welfare payments and two point one billion dollars in
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: intelligence agency funding to bolster its headline defense spending figure.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: See That's not sexy at all.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: A breakdown of the government's calculations that lifted defense funding
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: from two percent of GDP to claim two point eight
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: percent under NATO accounting rules includes more than eighteen and
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: a half billion dollars this financial year in expenditure not
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: administered by the Department of Defense. The revelation comes as
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: the Northern Territory Chief Minister Lee of Finocchiaro, who will
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: speak at the Australians Defending Australia summit on Tuesday, argues
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: that the federal government has overlooked and undervalued the NT's
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: role in the nation's defense and security spending. A sexy
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: little number that conceals our modesty. That's one way to
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: put it. But you know, essentially what it is is
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: a sham. You know, we're not really increasing defense spending.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: What we are increasing still isn't to the level that
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: the NATO nations have done, and we're just finding ways to,
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: you know, move parts of balance sheets around and say, oh, well,
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: look at this magic number we've achieved.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Well, we're concealing our modesty.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Well, indeed we are.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: What's interesting is that Australia and NATO countries are trying
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to impress the United States and say, look, we're doing more.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: We're doing more. So I guess that goes to the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: effectiveness of Trump and Pete hegseeth in playing hardball with allies,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: saying you need to pull more of your weight. So
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it's good that they're taking that seriously. What's not good
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: as they're not taking it seriously because they're fudging by
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: including retirement payments to veterans as part of defense spending.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: So not only are they doing a disservice to the
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: United States, which are saying, hey, you guys need to
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: pull your weight, they're doing a disservice to all of us,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: because they're telling us that we're being well defended when
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: they know full well half a significant chunk of that
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: is going towards pension payments.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was only actually just speaking of NATO,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: it was only yesterday when Pete hag Seth issued yet
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: another warning to NATO allies to step up. They said
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: that they can't continue to freeload off the United States.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: So we know that the US has always pressured us
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: to lift our defense spending, which we did slightly, but
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: certainly not to the level that the Trump administration had
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: hoped for. But a sexy little number that conceals our modesty.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: That's the best way to describe it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: I'm to sixty four sixty four military.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Too sexy for my bonds.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: And another story on the front of the OS Tomorrow's
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: his trillion dollar wealth killer home value risk. Australians could
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: face one trillion dollar hit to home values if the
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: property market nosedives, with Jim Charmers saying a fall in
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: auction clearance rates is a good thing quote unquote, despite
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: fears that house prices could fall by ten percent, The
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Treasurer on Monday deflected criticism that his budget cracked down
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: on negative gearing and capital gains tax was contributing to
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: weaker auction results and lower property prices, by blaming other factors,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: including high interest rates and the war in the Middle
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: East as the other and easy. Government struggles to explain
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: how its housing tax changes will boost supply and make
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: it easier for first home bars to enter the market.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Dr Chalmers attack the Coalition for waging scare campaigns and
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: sought to distance.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: The budget from market fluctuations.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Yes, higher interest rates are probably a contributing factor.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: I'll grant them that. But why do you reckon it
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: might be that we have higher interest rates at the moment.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Anyone got any thoughts on that?
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: You know? Could it have something to do with inflation?
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: It's been pushed by government spending. Just a wild idea
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: I'm throwing out.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: How could you be so smart?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Caleeb How would you feel if you failed to sell
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: your house at the weekend and the Treasurer comes out
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and says that's good, that's good, that's a good thing, well.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Done, congratulates.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure that property markets excelling under his government
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: doing incredibly well.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Well, what we're talking about house prices. Have a look
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: at the front page of the Gold Coast bulletin, and
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you'll have to have a close look at the front
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: page because most of it is consumed with the Bush
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: matters story we talked about earlier. But down the bottom
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: they're teasing a story about prices of property on the
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Gold Coast, leading country prices to overtake Sydney. It'll be
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: on page nine of tomorrow's Gold Coast Bulletin. The article
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: will detail how median house on the Gold Coast and
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: our one point four to five million dollars, which is
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: only one hundred and fifty four thousand dollars less than
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the median house price in Sydney.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: And they expect that within a year the median house
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: prices on the Gold Coast will be more expensive than
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: those in Sydney. Now I know what you're thinking. That's
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: all right, we won't buy a house on the Gold Coast,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: will buy an apartment. But the median price of apartments
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast is now nine hundred and eighty
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars, and they reckon it'll go over a
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: million dollars within the next few months. So you're not
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: going to get a cheap unit on the coast either.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: I just wonder what's happened there.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I wonder if it's a lot of people did leave
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: the big cities during COVID and they've gone to places
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: like the Gold Coast or different parts of Queensland in particular,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: or even regional areas, and suddenly you've got a population
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: boom in all these areas that were typically much more
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: quiet and probably more affordable, and suddenly these prices have
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: jacked up. I mean, that's the only reason I can
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: put it down to.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: Prior to COVID, the Gold Coast was the fastest growing
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: city in the country.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: And so clearly that has continued afterwards. On the front
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: of the Mercury down in Tazzi tomorrow against got the
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: Bush summit there, but down the bottom of says Premier Grilled.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Ogilvy's case dominates.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: This is a curious little case where a minister in
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: the Rockcliffe government, Madeline Ogilvy, last year said at an
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: Estimates hearing, that she was not involved in any Supreme
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Court action, but then she admitted in Parliament last week
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: that she was because it came out that the taxpayer
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: had spent one hundred and twenty.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: Grand in legal fees for her.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: So the Premier is rocked up to estimates today and
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: refused to say when this money has been spent. And
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: missus Ogilvy says, yes, she's involved in a Supreme Court matter,
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: but she can't tell us what it's about, who's involved,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: when it's happening, what's going on at all. So the
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: poor taxpayers down in Tazzi spend one hundred and twenty
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: grand in legal fees on something they have no detail on.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: In fact, six hundred.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Grand in legal fees across all ministers on cases about
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: which the public has no knowledge. You'd think they deserve
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: to know how their money is being spent, because of
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: course it's d M. It's not government money, it's taxpayers
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: money and the government spending it on legal fees without
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: you knowing why or when or how.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: There you go, all right, we're going to go to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, an audience member steps
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: in to save the day during a major musical production
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: in Sydney. Plus, we've got our dope of the day.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: That's next. We'll get to our dope of the day
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: in a moment. But this is our hero of the
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: day there was a performance of La La Land. That's
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the Ryan Gosling movie. The movie is shown but to
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a live orchestra. The problem was that during the interval
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the keyboard player took ill and they needed somebody to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: step up and save the day. Here's what happened.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Anybody like an amazing save reader.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: So literally, a guy sitting in the audience says, I
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: can sight read music. Next moment he's on stage playing
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: keyboard for this major show, well over a thousand people there,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: and apparently he knocked it out of the park, except
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: for one portion where it was the main bit of
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: music and he could not do it, so he improvised
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and it went off without a floor.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Well, apparently site reading is very difficult. It's a real skill.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: So congratulations to him. If he wants a gig with
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: the orchestra. Reckon, he's got it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Imagine that you just go along to enjoy a show.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Next minute you're up on stage.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: That only happens in the movies.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: You reckon, he picks up any chicks?
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: I mean he after if he's a single man, he
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: would add a girlfriend by the time he left there.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: I reckon.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I love it that that's where your mind went. I
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: was your initial thought. I wonder if he's going to
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: pick up today.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive, you know, begetting piano lessons.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, was going to come with a whole recital.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: For us Bethoven the second. Alright, it's time for our faces.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Going to pick up chicks.
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: The day.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: James said Liberaci. I don't think Liberacci was picking up chicks, James.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: It was a good piano player.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: It was a good piano player, but he wouldn't pick
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: it up chicks. I think we know that anyway. Have
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: a look at this.
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: These are a couple of young thugs who decided they'd
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: break into a woman's house in Salmonson.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Park in Adelaide.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: The only problem was, and you can see them there
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: sort of, you know, slowly making their way into the house.
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: And this woman woke up and found these people in
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: her house. They were chased off by the dogs, but
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: the dog was.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: A chill hour.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: They got rumbled by a little chila. I mean, yeah,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: a big time.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Wow. That is that is that is God? Was are
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: so cute? Aren't they cute? Little little dogs? And I
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  Speaker 2: have a look at this.
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  Speaker 3: As Spain bound United Airways flight out of Newark. This
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  Speaker 3: is in New Jersey in the United States. Has been
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: forced to make an emergency landing back in New walk
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  Speaker 3: because somebody's fit bit registered with the Bluetooth on the
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: system and the name of the fit bit.
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  Speaker 1: Was bomb bomb.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's set off an alarm because obviously pretty
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: officials were alerted it was a Bluetooth device and said bomb.
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  Speaker 3: So well they basically did nothing. They circled left at
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  Speaker 3: six pm. By nine point thirty they were back in
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  Speaker 3: New Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: It was a sixteen year old, wasn't it. FBI are
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  Speaker 1: investigating because of someone's Bluetooth device.
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  Speaker 4: There you go, Well I have to go and change
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  Speaker 4: the name of my phone.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I'm just surprised you didn't get picked up on
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  Speaker 5: the plane this afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: That's all we've got time for stick around. Coming up
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