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RRR - The Dark Side of Content Creation · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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  Speaker 1: Random research Tramblin's with Robin, digging through the details.
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  Speaker 2: That's his job.
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  Speaker 1: Some tillis days and no reports. He breaks hit down
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  Speaker 1: in friendly shorts, Random research Tramblin's.
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  Speaker 2: With Robin, And just like that we are down in
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  Speaker 2: the loose moveth Studios in the bunker. I am Rob.
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  Speaker 2: These are some random research ramblings with me, big bad Bob.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: What's up everybody. We're gonna be talking a little bit
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  Speaker 2: today about the dark side of Camelot, I mean the
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  Speaker 2: dark side of content creation. And what do I mean
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  Speaker 2: by that? Well, you know it's not always sunshine and
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  Speaker 2: rainbows here in content creation land. There is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of hard work that goes on behind the scenes. And
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  Speaker 2: believe me when I tell you, folks, there's never going
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  Speaker 2: to be a gold, a silver, or bronze YouTube plaque
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  Speaker 2: here on the wall behind me. I get that. I
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  Speaker 2: understand that. And I'm never going to get rich doing this,
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  Speaker 2: never going to be able to quit my everyday joe job.
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  Speaker 2: This is extracurricular activities for me. This is a passion,
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  Speaker 2: This is a project. This is something I really enjoyed
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  Speaker 2: doing and putting together, not just for the subject matter,
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  Speaker 2: but just to be able to create something, to create
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  Speaker 2: a community, to create a visual medium for folks to
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  Speaker 2: tune into that enjoy the topic of conversation and to
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  Speaker 2: hang out and have a good time and hopefully learn
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  Speaker 2: something in the process. That's the goal. That's the goal.
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  Speaker 2: I love all the extra stuff, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure out how to do things better, how to sound better,
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  Speaker 2: how to look better, and figuring out things that I
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  Speaker 2: never thought that I would be adept in, such as
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  Speaker 2: video editing, audio editing, live streaming. You know, it's one
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  Speaker 2: thing to get on here and do these recordings, these
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  Speaker 2: videos that I can pause anytime, or I can stop
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  Speaker 2: and start over if I need to. But live streaming
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  Speaker 2: is a challenge all on its own. And that was
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: a skill honed from being one teach Jake's in the
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  Speaker 2: early days of doing the podcast when there was no
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  Speaker 2: pause button, and if you messed up twenty minutes in,
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  Speaker 2: like really bad, you had to just delete it and
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  Speaker 2: start all over again. And many times I would do
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  Speaker 2: that five or six times in a row before I
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  Speaker 2: got it right. There is no safety net while live streaming.
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  Speaker 2: There's just not. It's a skill, believe me, And shout
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  Speaker 2: out to all of the channel members, you guys are
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  Speaker 2: really the backbone of the show. Seriously, Like you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: we're not getting rich doing this. I'm not doing this
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  Speaker 2: to get rich. I'm basically doing this to pay our
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  Speaker 2: live streaming service bill, our podcast hosting fees, to upgrade microphones,
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  Speaker 2: to be able to buy acoustic tiles, to be able
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  Speaker 2: to you know, purchase resources in order to make this
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  Speaker 2: podcast more visually appealing to the eye, these subtle nuances,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, and trying to figure all this out.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, and probably I haven't
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  Speaker 2: figured it all out yet, that's no secret, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: learning and I'm having fun doing it again. When this
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  Speaker 2: stops being fun for me, you won't see me anymore.
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  Speaker 2: That's just the type of person that I am. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy and I'm happy doing this show, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy for all all of the views and the likes
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  Speaker 2: and the shares of this show gets and support from
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  Speaker 2: you guys unbelievably awesome. But there is a darker side
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  Speaker 2: to all of this, and that's just putting up with
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  Speaker 2: some bullshit from some really clueless people or malicious people.
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  Speaker 2: So what do I mean by that? Well, recently and
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  Speaker 2: we joke about it on the show a lot that
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  Speaker 2: you know, oh, the CIA's listening in, the FBI is
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: listening in, or you know, if the show gets interrupted,
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  Speaker 2: you know it's the government tamping down on us, and this,
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  Speaker 2: that and the other. But there really are some malicious
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  Speaker 2: folks out there who try to seriously disrupt the show.
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  Speaker 2: And just last I had somebody trying to hack into
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  Speaker 2: my Microsoft account. You know, like if you forget your password,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they send you a single use code to
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: be able to sign in. Well, sometimes folks, through some
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  Speaker 2: means or I don't know really how can get a
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  Speaker 2: hold of your Gmail account or your password, And sometimes
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  Speaker 2: this information ends up on lists they sell them on
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  Speaker 2: the dark web. For whatever reason, you order something sketchy
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  Speaker 2: from Sheen or Timu or some Chinese shit from overseas,
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  Speaker 2: and you made the mistake of signing in using your
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  Speaker 2: Google account, or you have the same password for you account,
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  Speaker 2: your Microsoft account or whatever whatever, and somehow these folks
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  Speaker 2: figure things out and can try to get in and
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  Speaker 2: disrupt what you got going on, which is an asshole move.
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  Speaker 2: But this type of thing happens all the time, like
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  Speaker 2: at least once a month, if not more. Frequently. And again,
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  Speaker 2: We're not changing the world here. Okay, I'm just some
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  Speaker 2: random dude that likes talking about the JFK assassination. It
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  Speaker 2: ain't that serious, bro, you know what I mean. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not exposing government secrets here. We're just trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: this thing out. So then I guess it was about
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  Speaker 2: four months ago. Now I get a phone call while
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  Speaker 2: I'm at work. Now, while I'm at work, I have
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  Speaker 2: a work self phone and I carry that with me,
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  Speaker 2: and my personal cell phone stays on my desk because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not carrying two phones around my pants. SAG. Enough
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  Speaker 2: off my ass as it is. I'm not weighing myself
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  Speaker 2: down with two phones in my pocket. So once I'm
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  Speaker 2: done working for the day, I'll pick up my personal
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  Speaker 2: phone and I see how I got a miscall from
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  Speaker 2: a searchain somebody right that I don't know, from a
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  Speaker 2: number that I don't know, and they left a voicemail.
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  Speaker 2: So I listen to the voicemail and it's a very
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  Speaker 2: angry man threatening to take the appropriate actions if I
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  Speaker 2: don't issue him a refund for locals dot Co for
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  Speaker 2: his low locals dot Com subscription that he had supposedly canceled,
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  Speaker 2: yet his card was still being built like monthly recurring charges. Now,
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: we haven't used locals over here for a very long time,
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  Speaker 2: at least two years. It was a very dumb idea
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  Speaker 2: to do locals. It was Joe's idea, and yeah, I'll
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  Speaker 2: throw Joe under the bus for this one. Uh. I
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: wanted to keep everything in house on YouTube as far
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  Speaker 2: as being able to monetize the show, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: creating a locals community actually doubled the amount of work
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  Speaker 2: for us, because not only we would have to create
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  Speaker 2: content here, we would have to link up and move
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  Speaker 2: information and content over to locals and create over there
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  Speaker 2: as well, which is a lot. It's a lot to do.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot, and we didn't do it very long.
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  Speaker 2: The juice was not worth the squeeze. To do anything
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  Speaker 2: over there, you have to have a very large amount
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  Speaker 2: of supporters to even be able to live stream from
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  Speaker 2: their site, to do like locals only live streams, or
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: to post videos, you had to have at least one
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  Speaker 2: hundred supporters or at least a thousand supporters. And it
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  Speaker 2: just very quickly we realized this is not the answer
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  Speaker 2: for us. You know, this is designed for someone with
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  Speaker 2: a much bigger following than us. You know, the only
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  Speaker 2: good thing about locals is they only take like a
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  Speaker 2: ten percent off the top for every supporter, subscription fees
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  Speaker 2: or something like that, whereas YouTube takes like thirty percent.
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  Speaker 2: So for every three dollars or two ninety nine super
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  Speaker 2: chat you might give us here on YouTube, they'll take
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: a dollar, so we get two, they get one. Is
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  Speaker 2: it fair? Not really? But you know what this is
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  Speaker 2: where we're at. YouTube is the big dog when it
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: comes to video hosting, video streaming, live streaming, and this
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  Speaker 2: is the place that everybody comes to, like it or not.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Rumbles tried to take things over, it just
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  Speaker 2: never really called on. You know, you can have things
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: like on Discord and this is all stuff that I
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  Speaker 2: really don't understand. It's above my pay grade when you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about eating Discord servers and this, that and the other,
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  Speaker 2: and I just don't want to deal with any of
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  Speaker 2: that crap. YouTube makes it easy for creators to create
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  Speaker 2: content and get it out there, plain and simple, as
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  Speaker 2: you'll see from this. You know, it's it's kind of
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: frustrating when when you get to talking about numbers and
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: your reach and this that and the other because I
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: think that this show with the Blue Gumbing podcast provides
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  Speaker 2: something that nobody else does, or very few do, and
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  Speaker 2: even fewer do well. And what I mean by that
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  Speaker 2: is two be able to live stream a JFK related podcast,
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  Speaker 2: either with guests or without guests, where the hosts are
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  Speaker 2: knowledgeable enough to be able to do a show for
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  Speaker 2: an hour or two most of the time too, maybe
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  Speaker 2: more than that, to be able to carry a show
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  Speaker 2: and be informative and entertaining on a weekly basis. There's
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  Speaker 2: very few out there that do it, and I've seen
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  Speaker 2: countless podcasts come and countless podcast go. When it comes
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  Speaker 2: to the JFK assassination. I see some out there who
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  Speaker 2: think that it's story time and they want to just
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  Speaker 2: read from a script and give you a nice little
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  Speaker 2: story about an aspect of the JFK assassination. Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: guess that has its own niche somewhere. And there's some
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  Speaker 2: out there that can, you know, take things chronologically through
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  Speaker 2: a timeline from the very beginning and kind of lay
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  Speaker 2: things out and give you both sides of an argument
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  Speaker 2: and this that and the other. That takes a lot
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  Speaker 2: of prep. I you know, I respect that or you know,
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  Speaker 2: you provide a basically a destination podcast is what I
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  Speaker 2: call them, and you only have guests. Like you might
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  Speaker 2: have a host or two hosts, but the host don't
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  Speaker 2: have the ability to sit here for two hours in
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  Speaker 2: front of you and be knowledgeable enough to discuss and
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  Speaker 2: get in the wheeze about certain aspects of the assassination.
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  Speaker 2: So they get guests to come on and do most
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  Speaker 2: of the talking for them. They might enter lace a
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  Speaker 2: couple questions here or there, but for the most part,
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  Speaker 2: the guests carry the show and again to each their own.
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  Speaker 2: But for me to sit here and say that another
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  Speaker 2: JFK related podcast that came after the Lone Gunman or
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  Speaker 2: the Dallas action, I would be lying if I said
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  Speaker 2: that I didn't look at them as direct competition, right,
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  Speaker 2: because when me and Doug started doing this thing, we
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: were the very first podcasts. There were internet radio shows
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  Speaker 2: before that, of course, right, you know, doing things from
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  Speaker 2: real live radio stations, and you know, it sounded great
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  Speaker 2: and professional and all that crap. But as far as
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  Speaker 2: branding and labeling yourself as a podcast, we were the first.
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  Speaker 2: The idea was born together, but at the time we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have the technology to do an a show together
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  Speaker 2: like quick hits, like like we do. Now. That was
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  Speaker 2: the idea. So we figured, well, you know, since we
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  Speaker 2: don't live together, you know, don't live together in the
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  Speaker 2: same state. Whatever, Hey, create your show, bro, I'll create
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  Speaker 2: my show, and we'll just go. Because the whole thing was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to have and development space where we could
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  Speaker 2: discuss certain aspects of the assassination, just out loud, just
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  Speaker 2: to have a sound board because in our real life,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: you know, nobody gives a crap about the JFK assassination, right,
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  Speaker 2: so it's nice to have somebody talk to about it.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice to create a community of like minded individuals
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  Speaker 2: who think about things the same way that you do,
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  Speaker 2: or you might. And again I always say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have to agree about every little aspect because
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  Speaker 2: there's levels to this shit. Believe me, and I have
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  Speaker 2: changed my opinion on the JFK assassination many many, many, many,
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  Speaker 2: many many many times over the past thirty five years,
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  Speaker 2: according to where I'm at currently in my beliefs, and
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  Speaker 2: not everybody's on the same trajectory. Not everybody's on the
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  Speaker 2: same path. And for a lot of the show, it's
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: just me trying to explain why I think what I
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  Speaker 2: do now based on, you know, whatever the factors may be.
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  Speaker 2: And that's all fine and good. Now let me show
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  Speaker 2: you back to the dark side. So the guy who
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: demanded a refund right for not being able to cancel
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  Speaker 2: his subscription and let me leave me a threatening, shitty voicemail, which,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: by the way, how this motherfucker got my personal cell
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  Speaker 2: phone number I would still really love to know, because
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  Speaker 2: I don't give that out to just anybody, believe me.
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  Speaker 2: And now, shirly hell didn't give it to this guy,
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  Speaker 2: So he must have one of those you know services
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  Speaker 2: that you pay for background investigation or whatever, you know, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: some way he got it. I didn't answer him. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't call him back because you know what, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to be an asshole about it, then fuck you. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: you know, had he send an email, maybe I could
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: have helped point him in the right direction. You know, like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: if you don't know how to cancel a subscription that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: you signed up for, then you probably shouldn't be signing
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: up for subscriptions. And if you don't know the difference
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: between a one time charge and a recurring charge, you
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: probably shouldn't be signing up for subscriptions just saying so.
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  Speaker 2: The reason I bring that up from four or five
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  Speaker 2: months ago, whenever I got the phone calls. A couple
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago, I get I start getting emails from
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  Speaker 2: different places and not just locals either, and it's the
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  Speaker 2: same asshole. So I get this email from Substack. We're
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  Speaker 2: reaching out to let you know that one of your
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  Speaker 2: paid subscribers has disputed a charge via their card issuer.
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  Speaker 2: There are many reasons why this may have happened, such
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  Speaker 2: as not recognizing the charge on their statement or wanting
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  Speaker 2: to cancel their subscription. We recommend taking the following steps. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: they recommend one, just give them their money back through
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  Speaker 2: your Stripe dashboard. This will close the case promptly and
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  Speaker 2: avoid further fees. To consider contacting the subscriber directly and
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  Speaker 2: reaching a resolution, which you know, again if he hadn't
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  Speaker 2: a call and left a shitty message on my personal
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  Speaker 2: cell phone, maybe and number three if step two fails,
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  Speaker 2: considering countering the dispute by submitting evidence through your Stripe dashboard. Now,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Stripe is a payment service that is able to take
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: payments and also pay out payments, so basically, you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: if people use a credit card or a debit card
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: to buy something like if you're at the flea market
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  Speaker 2: and they have like the mobile card readers look to
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  Speaker 2: their phone or whatever, that's a stripe thing basically. But
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: it also works online for services such as this. Now
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: my substack, mind you. I set up my substack in
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two before substack got really huge, when it
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: was just starting to become a thing, and I didn't
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: set up the substack really for anything related to the podcast,
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  Speaker 2: all right. I set it up because I was going
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to start writing a book there and you know, kind
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of something where I would like write a chapter a week,
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  Speaker 2: right and if you wanted to, you could subscribe and
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  Speaker 2: be part of the process and all of that. But
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  Speaker 2: that was it. And trust me, it was one of
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  Speaker 2: those two week things where I was like, eh, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, fuck this, I'm not doing this anymore, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. But I kind of left it
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  Speaker 2: up there, just just forgot about it, you know whatever.
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  Speaker 2: You know, now, if you were a Rando that somehow
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: stumbled across my sub stack in twenty twenty five, twenty
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: twenty six, and you could see that there's been no
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: posts since October of twenty twenty two. Why in the
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: hell would you sign up for a monthly support thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. There's no new content, there's nothing that
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  Speaker 2: special there. There's one post behind a paywall. It was
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  Speaker 2: like the first three pages of a chapter. That's it, literally.
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  Speaker 2: And I never received a payout from substack for anything
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: through Stripe, nothing, nothing, But there's the email. And then
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a couple days later, I get another email, this time
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  Speaker 2: informing me that JP Morgan Chase Bank has initiated a
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  Speaker 2: ten dollars dispute. And this comes from Stripe again. A
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: ten dollars us D payment for TLG podcast is being
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  Speaker 2: disputed by JP Morgan Bank because your customer says they
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: were charged after they canceled a subscription. Okay, okay, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: I ignore it. I get another email telling me they're gonna
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  Speaker 2: automatically debit my account if I don't take it, no
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  Speaker 2: action whatsoever. I was like, you know what, fuck this guy,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: it's gonna So I had to put twenty five dollars
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  Speaker 2: down to dispute this. Because if you go to locals
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: dot com and you scroll all the way to the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: bottom of the website, there's a section where you can
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: look at their terms of service. Okay, And there is
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: a section, actually multiple sections in their terms of service
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  Speaker 2: explaining how subscriptions work, how recurring charges work, and how
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  Speaker 2: refunds are issued. And it clearly states in thelocals dot
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  Speaker 2: com website that they handle any request for a refund
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  Speaker 2: even through canceled subscriptions. Okay, great, So why do I, personally,
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  Speaker 2: as Rob Clark, why should I be responsible for giving
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  Speaker 2: somebody a refund because they didn't know how to cancel
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  Speaker 2: their subscription. That doesn't seem right to me. And again,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the website is the buffer, all right. They didn't sign
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: up with me, they didn't pay me directly. They signed
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: up through a website. They gave their payment through a
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  Speaker 2: third party service called Stripe, and they picked whether or
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: not it was a one time payment or a recurring charge. Now,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: because somebody is too stupid to understand how that works,
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  Speaker 2: why is it my responsibility as an individual to somehow
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  Speaker 2: refund them their money directly from my pocket? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And look as a content creator, I get it. I support,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I will super chat. I have a couple of subscriptions
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: from content creators out there that I watch on the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: regular and I do. I watch a lot of YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have cable television. I think I have Netflix
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and HBO Max, and that's as far as streaming services. Oh, Amazon,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: of course, but other than that, you know, my viewing
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: is somewhat limited in the days now. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: can take your phone anywhere. You can watch TV anywhere,
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  Speaker 2: you can watch YouTube anywhere. That's just how it goes nowadays.
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  Speaker 2: And I support the creators that I watch on a
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  Speaker 2: consistently regular basis, those that upload every day, those that
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: upload every week, those that are constantly producing content from
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  Speaker 2: my enjoyment. I don't like just consuming things for free.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: It's not really fair, I don't think, because yeah, you
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: might see ads during YouTube videos, but if that channel
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: is not monetized, YouTube is the one keeping the add money.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: It doesn't go to the creator if they're not monetized.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: And trust me, there is several things that they try
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: to demonetize you for here on YouTube, you know, such
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: as playing a thirty second video even though it should
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: be under fair use policy. You know, it's not like
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: we're using the video to make money. We're using the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: video to have for a topic of discussion. But the
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: same thing goes for a song, a speech, anything that
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: could be copyrighted or anything like that. So there's very
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: fine lines that you have to walk while you're doing
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: this thing. So bottom line is, I said, all right, well,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: screw this guy. So I submitted evidence in response to
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: the ten dollars dispute. We forwarded your response to JP
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Morgan Chase Bank and they'll review your evidence and communicate
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: a decision within forty days. Now, a dispute counterfee applies,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: which is why I had to pay twenty five dollars
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: to dispute this ten dollars charge. Now some of you
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: might say, well, Rob, that's petty, that's petty. Why wouldn't
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: you just pay the ten dollar charge instead of paying
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the twenty five dollars charge to dispute the ten dollar charge.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Because I'm a petty motherfucker, that's why. And I get
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: really petty when you somehow find out my personal information
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and you want to leave a threatening voicemail on my phone. Right,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna be petty. I can be petty with
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the best of them, trust me. So I go to
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: thelocals dot com website and I copy and paste their
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: terms of service clearly stating that they are responsible for
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: issuing refunds and not me uploading this dude's voicemail that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: threatened me and lo and behold, they still determine to
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: decide in their customer's favor for the ten dollars dispute
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: that started on May night, May eighteen, twenty twenty six.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: The dispute was created because the customers said they were
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: charged after they canceled a subscription. Again, I don't have
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the ability to charge a customer's credit card after they
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: canceled a subscription. Okay, I don't personally have that power.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I don't have the machine. I don't know the guy's
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: credit card. No, I don't know his whatever three digit
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: number is on the back. I don't know his expiration date.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I don't even know the make, brand, model, or whatever
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: of his credit card, whether it be MasterCard, Visa, Discover,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: whatever the hell. I cannot charge anybody's credit card personally.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: It's all done through a service. It's all automated. It's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: all computer bullshit, right, So why should I have to
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: pay because you don't know how to cancel a subscription?
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: But apparently I do. And this is the kind of
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: dumb shit that I got to deal with sometimes, thankfully,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: not a lot. Thankfully, not all the time, because apparently,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: out of the one hundred and two people who were
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: supporters of the show overall locals, only twelve of them
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: were paid supporters, and only one of them was an
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: idiot that didn't know how to cancel their subscription when
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: we close that community over there, and we talked about
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: it a lot here, how we were shutting things down
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: on locals and transferring things to YouTube. So if you
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: love a show so much that you're going to support them,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: you'd think you'd actually just take the time to watch
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the show that you support and listen to what they're saying.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: But some people just don't do that. And again I'm
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: not bashing supporters, because again they are the backbone of
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the show. For instance, you know, one person joining even
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: at the lowest tier of support a month, which is
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: four ninety nine, say five bucks a month right of
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: our live streams that we do, that live stream may
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: only make four dollars and some change in ad revenue
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: in the span of a month, which is not a lot.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: And so if it wasn't for our channel supporters, we'd
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: literally be making peanuts. And again, we're not getting rich here,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: you know, but thankfully due to our supporters, we are
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: doing okay. We're doing okay. You know. I'm happy with
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: what we're doing. You know. It's not like I'm not
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: losing money doing this, and that's the main thing. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting rich either, and that's fine too. All
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I'm saying is be careful with how and who you
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: support out there, and be you be judicious and perceptive
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: when you are trying to do a one time payment
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: or recurring charge of support type of thing, and no
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: know how to cancel that subscription if you need to,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: you don't just let it go and then go cry
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: to your bank. They keeps choging make card. I swear
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: I cancel my subscription. Really, where's your proof of that?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: You click the button allegedly. I mean, all they have
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: to do is say, well, I click the button to
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: cancel my subscription. Where's the proof of it? They don't
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: have to have any apparently, And then I am personally
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: on the hook. So yeah, I lost basically thirty five
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: bucks when I could have just gave the dude ten
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: bucks back. But I don't care because I'm petty like that,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: and I'm perfectly fine with at least trying to make
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: a point. I'm not going down easy. And of course
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: his bank is going to side with him instead of
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: clearly the legal ease that gets drawn up by these
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: lawyers for these websites, and it's legally binding in the
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: court of flaw. Now, if I really wanted to take
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: this shit to court and over a ten dollars charged,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and great on me. But I really don't care that much.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: So you know what, put your hand in my pocket,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: take take take thirty five bucks out here you go, buddy.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: I hope you feel better about yourself. I hope you
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: feel like you just did something to somebody because you're
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: too stupid to know how to hit the cancel button. Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: and then you know, you go scrolling and you see
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: shit like this. You gotta you gotta see this, folks.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Hold on, um, let's see where is it? Yeah? There
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: it is? Okay. Now, doing our show twice a week,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes to research and get things straight and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: discuss I mean we're talking hours of preparation weekly. And
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: then you get on YouTube and you see some of
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: the dumbest shits you've ever seen in your life. You
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: see somebody doing a live stream with one hundred and
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: thirty two people watching. Now, I can tell you this,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Of all the live streams that we've done in the
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: past two three years, I don't think we've ever ever
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: cracked one hundred live people watching the show. I could
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. And then
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you come across some bullshit like this, and I know
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: none of our videos have one hundred and fifty eight likes.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that. And what do I mean.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Here's what I mean. You're gonna love this. So I'm
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: scrolling through YouTube shorts or not shorts, but lives, and
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I come across this idiot. You're gonna love this. Peep this.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Jeff Ford the yard Parts. I pay me mama, son
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: for happy happy Mother's Day. Let's flood this money.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Want more?
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Take you to take the time. I pad me Mama
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: said that yard parts not happy happy mothers Day, y'all.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Mama sure knows how to how to stay ring strong.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Just get some hands woof woof. Let's get some hands
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: up in his money for the yard person. Pay me
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: by my son did I get the hands up in
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: his money has right, y'all.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: They could plast the eye blow.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Somebody till a little bitty later. Remember, keep phony hot
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: to it up, phones down, shockers up, and as always
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Leslie's seclusion, get your eyeballs up with my plans.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what is the answer here? Would you like
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: to see Big Bad Bob dressed up like a clown
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: shoe with paint on my face talking like the oldest
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what the fuck that was. I
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: know what we used to call them guys back in
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: But but.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: That kind of shit gets way more views, way more
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: likes than anything that I do here. And all you
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: can do is shake your head like, this is what
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: people want to watch. This is what people want to watch, Like, dude,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: you know people are It's like a train wreck. I
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: just don't know. But yeah, welcome to the dark side
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: of content content creation, folks. You can't make the ship
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: up anyway. That's it for me. I suppose we'll see
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: you next time on random research ramblings. Oh my god,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: oh my god, oh my god, thank you so much
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: for supporting this show. You honestly have no idea how
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: much it means to me to have the supporters that
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: we do have and that aren't stupid and aren't assholes.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: I think we have a very good group of supporters
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: here at the Looming Podcast, and I appreciate each and
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: every one of you, and uh, we'll see you next time.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: On a random or research or Ramblings with Rob Can
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: you that would you like to see my clam slam down?
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Here?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Come your hands up for some brains in the chat.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Come on, come on, get some brains in the chat,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Come on, come on? What the fuck?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Tramblings with Robin through the details, that's job, don't Dallas
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: days and no reports. He breaks hit down in friendly shorts,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Random Research, Tramble Limbs with Robin