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Brutal Instagram Divorce Announcement From Reality Star; How NOT To Mix Social Media And Breakups · I Do, Part 2

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  Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
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  Speaker 2: It is Saturday, September 12th, and obviously there's no easy
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: way to get the news from your spouse that they
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  Speaker 2: want a divorce. But you sure as hell don't want
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  Speaker 2: to see it on Instagram. And with that, welcome to
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  Speaker 2: this episode of Amy and TJ. Did somebody really announce
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  Speaker 2: that they want a divorce on social media?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this just happened, and it's a couple that we
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  Speaker 1: actually have been following and watching. many of you may
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: know that we are big fans of 90 Day Fiancé.
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  Speaker 1: We love us a 90 Day Fiancé.
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  Speaker 2: All versions. Before the 90 Day, after the 90 Day,
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  Speaker 2: the Tell All, the Beach Resort, whatever. We're all about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And so one of the couples that we followed
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  Speaker 1: for years are Ashley and Manuel. So if you all
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  Speaker 1: know the show, it's Ashley Michelle and Manuel Velez. And Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: she stands out to us because she's from Minnesota. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so she is fluent, amazing in Spanish. Her fiance now,
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  Speaker 1: husband Manuel, is from Ecuador. but she would always be like, yo, Kiero.
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  Speaker 1: She said it in the most hilarious American Midwestern accent
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  Speaker 1: speaking Spanish. She didn't even try to have a Spanish accent.
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  Speaker 2: I've never quite heard someone do that because she was
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  Speaker 2: so fluent. So fluent. She was so good at her Spanish,
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  Speaker 2: but not an ounce of anything other than Midwest.
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  Speaker 1: Yo me llamo Ashley. It was very funny, but she
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  Speaker 1: nailed it every time. Anyway, she, this week, on Instagram...
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  Speaker 1: Just ahead of their fourth wedding anniversary, and we're always
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  Speaker 1: rooting for these couples, she put up a beautiful picture
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  Speaker 1: of their wedding, which we watched on television, a beautiful
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  Speaker 1: beach wedding, with this caption. What a shame. Tomorrow is
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  Speaker 1: our four-year anniversary, and I'm officially asking for a divorce.
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  Speaker 1: I have felt unsupported by you for years, and now
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  Speaker 1: when I am in my most vulnerable state, you have
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  Speaker 1: done nothing to support me. I am done. Do not
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  Speaker 1: come back to this house at Jesus Negrita Velez Rojas.
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  Speaker 1: Literally put his Instagram handle on the announcement. And people
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  Speaker 1: went wild in the comments, like, is this for real?
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  Speaker 1: She did. We don't know if she's officially filed divorce.
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  Speaker 1: No one has seen that yet. But she actually asked
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  Speaker 1: for the divorce and told him not to come back
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  Speaker 1: home on an Instagram post that now is at about
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  Speaker 1: 20,000 likes.
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  Speaker 2: Is that for real? I mean, do we really, are
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  Speaker 2: we supposed to feel that the first time he got
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  Speaker 2: a heads up about a divorce is in that post?
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  Speaker 1: It does appear that way, or at least she wants
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  Speaker 1: us to all think that. And so then Manuel, on
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  Speaker 1: his Instagram to respond, uploaded a picture of him hiking,
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  Speaker 1: actually in a nature area I've hiked at. I was like, oh, wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's in Ithaca, New York. He's going through a very
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  Speaker 1: famous hike. He just shows the hike. He shows a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of himself. And then on his Instagram story,
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  Speaker 1: he shows another nature photo of that same hike and
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  Speaker 1: says on his story, while others want to make statements,
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  Speaker 1: I just want peace and quiet. People kind of said
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  Speaker 1: that was an awesome way to respond.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this sounds like every man-woman fight I've ever
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  Speaker 2: heard of.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny, but it's crazy and it's sad.
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  Speaker 1: And look, for those of you who don't know Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and Manuel, they're from season 10 and they met over
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  Speaker 1: a decade ago. She studied abroad in Ecuador. She met
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  Speaker 1: Manuel at a New Year's Eve party. They broke up
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  Speaker 1: after she moved back to the States, but they stayed
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  Speaker 1: pen pals. They still kept in touch. And eventually they
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  Speaker 1: kind of fell in love over their pen pal state,
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  Speaker 1: decided to try again, went through the 90 day fiance
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  Speaker 1: process and they married in 2022. We certainly saw them
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  Speaker 1: have their fights. I think that's the cool thing about
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  Speaker 1: the show. You get to see. All the problems in
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  Speaker 1: everyone's relationship. And it does make you feel a little
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  Speaker 1: bit better. Literally every single relationship has problems. And they
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  Speaker 1: get even harder right before people get married, typically, because
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  Speaker 1: there's so much stress. There's so much pressure. And they're
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  Speaker 1: doing it in front of the cameras. But I really
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  Speaker 1: rooted for these two. They were funny together.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize they had made it four years.
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  Speaker 1: Four years they made it together. And so look, what
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  Speaker 1: led to the split? Everyone's trying to piece it together
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  Speaker 1: because if you go on Ashley's... Wait, we'll get.
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  Speaker 2: To reactions too, right? I would like to know what
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  Speaker 2: people think.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. I will pull up the Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have that.
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  Speaker 3: All right, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yes, but two weeks before their split, she posted... Look,
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  Speaker 1: her whole Instagram page is her weight loss journey. She
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  Speaker 1: was not happy with her weight. And so she had
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  Speaker 1: gone through a massive transformation. And it's cute because you
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  Speaker 1: can go on her Instagram and see Manuel in the
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  Speaker 1: gym with her, trying to work out with her, trying
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  Speaker 1: to keep up with her. She lost a ton of weight.
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  Speaker 1: She looks like a baddie. She's got muscles. She's fit.
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  Speaker 1: She's fierce. And oftentimes when you lose a bunch of weight,
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  Speaker 1: you have a lot of loose skin and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: So she went in two weeks ago, got a tummy
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  Speaker 1: tuck and a breast lift. And you even can see
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  Speaker 1: Manuel helping her in her hospital gown, getting into the surgery.
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  Speaker 1: So he was with her all along. But when she
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  Speaker 1: refers to, you have done nothing to support me in
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  Speaker 1: my most vulnerable state, she obviously is talking about this
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  Speaker 1: surgery and the recovery from this surgery, which is really difficult.
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  Speaker 1: So that is what people are believing she's referring to,
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  Speaker 1: but we don't know exactly what he did or what
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  Speaker 1: he didn't do. But she is... Look, anyone who's had
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  Speaker 1: a massive surgery knows this is really, really hard. My
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  Speaker 1: mom just had a tough surgery. We're actually here with
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  Speaker 1: her right now. And yes, you do need extra support
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  Speaker 1: from your spouse. And she's claiming he gave her none.
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  Speaker 1: And that was it. So she told the world on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram that she is divorcing Manuel.
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  Speaker 2: Was there anything leading up? I mean, she's posting so
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  Speaker 2: much stuff. Were there signs of trouble on Instagram? Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: on social media before this or everything? This came out
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  Speaker 2: of the blue.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know because people are shocked. And if you
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  Speaker 1: go look up articles, people are trying to figure out
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  Speaker 1: what led to it and they can't really figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: But some people wrote on her thing. I have seen
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  Speaker 1: it from the beginning of the show. You need a partner,
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  Speaker 1: not someone you have to mother constantly. Your evolution in
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  Speaker 1: the past couple of years has greatly surpassed his growth
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  Speaker 1: since he came to America. Um, someone said, I know
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  Speaker 1: you're getting a lot of congratulation comments. I mean, women
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  Speaker 1: are cheering her on saying way to go, drop him,
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  Speaker 1: drop the man, get rid of him. Um, but this one,
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  Speaker 1: this woman wrote, but I also know even if this
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  Speaker 1: is for the best, your heart is still hurting. I
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  Speaker 1: could tell you really loved that man and gave him
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  Speaker 1: your whole heart. I just wanted to be the one
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  Speaker 1: in the comments saying it's okay to be sad about it,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's what needs to happen. And Ashley wrote back,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. So look, people are, people are, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of surprising or maybe it isn't surprising to you,
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  Speaker 1: but they are all, it seems fully in support of her.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, her other comments on her post, a couple thousand,
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  Speaker 1: she has 20,000 likes. You have worked way too hard
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  Speaker 1: on yourself to accept the bare minimum from any human being.
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  Speaker 1: let alone someone who's supposed to be your biggest support system.
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  Speaker 1: You deserve someone who praises you the way you praise others.
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  Speaker 1: This is the whole deserve things. And you've said this often.
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  Speaker 1: Women will support other women in these types of moments
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  Speaker 1: when women are down and they're upset about their man.
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  Speaker 1: And you say almost to their own detriment. You've felt
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  Speaker 1: like you've seen it happen plenty of times.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it could go both ways, right? A woman could
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  Speaker 2: be very into a guy that might be bad for her.
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  Speaker 2: And all the women around will Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's okay. We can make the same excuses. And then
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it on the other side where it's not
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  Speaker 2: going well. Yeah, to hell with him. And there's sometimes
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  Speaker 2: not a fair and impartial, I guess, voice in the
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  Speaker 2: room sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because they're just there to comfort the woman, comfort
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  Speaker 1: our girlfriend. And that's okay. And say, men are horrible,
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  Speaker 1: men are bad. And that is honestly what I'm seeing
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  Speaker 1: on here. Basically saying, I know what it's like not
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  Speaker 1: to be supported. A lot of people, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: breakups happen during cosmetic surgery recovery. Is that true?
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  Speaker 2: My question, are people, they're supporting her, right? And what
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  Speaker 2: she wants to do moving forward. Well, is there much
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  Speaker 2: talk about doing it this way?
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  Speaker 1: So a couple of people have written, and I was
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  Speaker 1: just about to get to that. This is so cringe
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  Speaker 1: to post to Instagram and tag him. She wrote back
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  Speaker 1: to that person, I said what I said. And then
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  Speaker 1: someone else wrote, not as cringe as being a bad husband.
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  Speaker 1: So then other women went to go stand up for
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  Speaker 1: her when someone called her out. Someone else called her
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  Speaker 1: out and said, to be honest, good for you, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this isn't something you post on social media
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  Speaker 1: with like question marks. And someone said, it's even crazier
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  Speaker 1: going down the comments and seeing literally everyone say, congrats,
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  Speaker 1: you deserve better. That's no one's place to say. So now,
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: you know, people are going back and forth about that.
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  Speaker 1: But I have to say, I was shocked at how
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  Speaker 1: little shade she got for doing this. I would have
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  Speaker 1: thought more people would have said, girl, I get it.
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  Speaker 1: Things happen. But why do you have to put it
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  Speaker 1: out like that and tag him?
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, she can do whatever she wants to do and
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  Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily need to be criticized for it, even if
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  Speaker 2: someone else might do it differently. But the thing is,
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  Speaker 2: we have no idea what happened behind the scenes and
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  Speaker 2: what has been happening behind the scenes. This is not
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  Speaker 2: a matter of taking up for him. Just when things
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  Speaker 2: happen like this, she's completely, like, he's done. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's completely demonized, cannot defend himself. And that's, Fine, but
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  Speaker 2: I just hate when these things, when it happens like this.
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  Speaker 2: And everybody just a mob mentality. I have no idea
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  Speaker 2: what he did, but she said it. He's a monster.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the end of the story.
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  Speaker 1: And that is probably what she wanted to happen. And
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  Speaker 1: she wanted the public support. And that's why she chose
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  Speaker 1: to do it this way. But there are real life
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  Speaker 1: consequences for throwing someone under the bus publicly like that,
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  Speaker 1: shaming them publicly, tagging them so that people then go
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  Speaker 1: on his page. And by the way, people have gone
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  Speaker 1: on his page and started trolling him. And saying, you're
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  Speaker 1: a horrible husband. Why didn't you support your wife? So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: if that's what she wanted, that's what happened. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: that's tough. It is tough.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody do their own thing. It's just we don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And everything she said might be true. This is the
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  Speaker 2: damage that does. She loved him enough to do all
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  Speaker 2: this with him and to stay married to him for
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  Speaker 2: four years. And now I want to make sure I
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  Speaker 2: hurt you at the end. And look, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people might say, well, you don't know what he did
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  Speaker 2: to her.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the point.
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  Speaker 1: And I will also say you and I both have
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  Speaker 1: been through breakups and public ones at that. But we
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  Speaker 1: always say this, and this is the one truth that
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  Speaker 1: comes from all of this. You don't know someone is
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  Speaker 1: until you divorce them. And so even if they're the
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  Speaker 1: most loving, wonderful people while you're in a relationship with them,
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  Speaker 1: when people get hurt, people do things to hurt back.
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  Speaker 1: And that is what we see happen oftentimes. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, Ashley Michelle, just the latest. When we come back,
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  Speaker 1: remember Megan Thee Stallion? She broke up with Klay Thompson
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  Speaker 1: in a very public and damaging way. Megan Fox, Selena Gomez,
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  Speaker 1: Justin Bieber. There are a bunch of celebrities who have
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  Speaker 1: done this exact same thing. Welcome back, everyone. Yes, Ashley
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  Speaker 1: may have asked for a divorce from Manuel, our 90-day
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  Speaker 1: fiancé couple that we followed for so long on Instagram
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  Speaker 1: this week. But not that long ago, Megan Thee Stallion,
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  Speaker 1: we did a whole thing on this. Remember, accusing Klay
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  Speaker 1: Thompson of all sorts of stuff? He never clapped back.
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  Speaker 1: Not once.
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  Speaker 2: And I appreciate that, but it leaves that void for
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  Speaker 2: everybody to fill in the blanks to... call him whatever.
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  Speaker 2: He can't defend himself.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: And he hasn't.
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  Speaker 1: And she got specific. Her post was cheating, had me
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  Speaker 1: around your whole family playing house, got cold feet. holding
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  Speaker 1: you down through all your horrible mood swings and treatment
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  Speaker 1: towards me during your basketball season. Now you don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you can be monogamous. Bitch, I need a real
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  Speaker 1: break after this one. Bye, y'all. And that is how
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  Speaker 1: she broke up with him, in front of everybody. Megan
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  Speaker 1: Fox did the same thing. She split from Machine Gun
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  Speaker 1: Kelly after she shared a cryptic Instagram post and then
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  Speaker 1: deleted her account. and let everyone know that something was up,
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  Speaker 1: but she did it on Instagram first. Selena Gomez and
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  Speaker 1: Justin Bieber, I didn't realize this, they had a very
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  Speaker 1: public Instagram beef. Justin threatened to make his Instagram private
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  Speaker 1: if the hate didn't stop after they broke up, right?
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  Speaker 1: So Selena goes onto that post and says, if you
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  Speaker 1: can't handle the hate, then stop posting pictures of your girlfriend.
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  Speaker 1: It should be special between you two only. Don't be
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  Speaker 1: mad at your fans. And then Justin gets on to
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  Speaker 1: reply to her, saying, it's funny to see people that
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  Speaker 1: used me for attention and still try to point the
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  Speaker 1: finger this way. So sad. So they were literally publicly
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  Speaker 1: beefing on each other's Instagram pages on comments.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you, baby. I forgot
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  Speaker 2: they dated. And there's a reason I forgot. I was
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  Speaker 2: trying to forget it. Everybody's moved on. Why'd you have
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  Speaker 2: to bring this back?
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Right? Well, how about Rihanna? I forgot about this one.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: She took a shot at all her exes in one post.
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  Speaker 1: And this was 10 years ago. Obviously, she's very happy
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  Speaker 1: now with Aesop Rocky. But she wrote in a post,
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  Speaker 1: none of my exes are married or in happy relationships.
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  Speaker 1: So it's safe to say that I wasn't a problem. LOL.
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  Speaker 2: We love her too much to criticize. That's kind of hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, but obviously the experts out there, relationship experts, say
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  Speaker 1: there are clear do's and don'ts when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: breaking up and social media. Look, and this is what
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  Speaker 1: they say. It's obvious. It is tempting. It is tempting
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  Speaker 1: to just put it out there, to get the support
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  Speaker 1: that you want, the public support. And a lot of
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: celebrities know they have platforms and know they have fans.
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  Speaker 1: And so if they're hurt and they're feeling sad to
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: go out there and throw their ex under the bus
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  Speaker 1: or break up online or say, they know they're going
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: to get support. And that's why they do it because
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: it's tempting. But they say the best thing you can
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  Speaker 1: possibly do if you are in the middle of a
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: messy breakup is to go cold turkey. Do not even
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  Speaker 1: go on your social media because you might be tempted.
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  Speaker 1: So turn your phone off for at least a week.
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  Speaker 1: Keep it to yourself. They say it is never a
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  Speaker 1: good idea to post publicly about your breakup or to
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  Speaker 1: badmouth your ex. It doesn't ever end well. I think
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  Speaker 1: we know this intellectually, but maybe we have to be reminded.
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  Speaker 2: Do what everybody else does. Just call the tabloid. That
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  Speaker 2: works too.
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  Speaker 1: Right? I mean, this is what people do. But they say,
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  Speaker 1: and this is about just being a good human being.
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  Speaker 1: However badly your ex may have treated you or however
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  Speaker 1: badly you think they treated you, two wrongs do not
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  Speaker 1: make a right. And that is the golden rule when
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: it comes to breakups and social media. Two wrongs do
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  Speaker 1: not make a right.
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  Speaker 2: And you would be sitting here with some group of
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  Speaker 2: girlfriends around you. Some people might even be listening to it.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: If he blah, blah, blah, then he deserves that mindset.
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  Speaker 2: I just, I just wrote, just like you said, some
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  Speaker 2: folks know they have a platform. You, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: sick my 5 million followers on you, babe. That is,
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  Speaker 2: it's not okay. And no matter what, baby, you cannot justify.
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  Speaker 2: That's an intentional move to do harm, baby. That stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Every celebrity knows that. What those comments feel like, you've
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  Speaker 2: gone into depression over those comments. You avoid reading things
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  Speaker 2: because you can't handle. And you're going to do that
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  Speaker 2: to somebody. Whatever she's going through. I don't know. So
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. And I shouldn't side with her or him.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what we're talking about. I just, I wish
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  Speaker 2: she hadn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough, right? And I've been checking because she posted
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  Speaker 1: this midweek and I've checked every day to see if
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  Speaker 1: maybe she'd take it down. Maybe a cooler head would prevail. Nope,
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  Speaker 1: it's still up. And she is commenting on the comments.
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  Speaker 1: Like she is reacting to people who either support her
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  Speaker 1: or tell her. And I would tell you, it's overwhelmingly
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  Speaker 1: in support of her because that's what women do. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that she knows and a lot of women
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  Speaker 1: know that they will get their team of girls around
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  Speaker 1: her to make her feel lifted up but there is
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  Speaker 1: actually a real consequence to that and whatever Manuel did
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: or what he didn't do that was wrong I still
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: feel for the guy because there really isn't a good
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: next move for him for Clay Thompson for any of
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the other men who get called out publicly for doing
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: something that they really like how do you.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Defend yourself in that situation because at least in Rose
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: we know in some of these circumstances through our connections
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: to people that some of these.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Stories are absolutely not true. These guys, some of them
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: are getting called out by big celebrities and big breakups
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: and we know it's false. We actually know. Please say something.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: We were in the same position. We didn't know the game.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: We didn't say anything and we should have.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: Anybody who says I'm left-handed I will defend it. I
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: will hop on immediately and correct that record.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Nope, I'm a righty.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: It's that kind of thing. I mean, you don't know, babe.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: This stuff just gets going and play and Manuel will
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: forever be stamped. You can't get it back.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: It's really hard to get back. So just remember to
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: be kind and that two wrongs don't make a right.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: However tempting it may feel in the moment, put down
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the phone, everybody. All right. And with that, we always
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: We'll talk soon.