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10-09-26 Hour 3 - Broken Broncos offense by the numbers/Eliminating the Bo Nix varibales/DRUNK TAKES · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 3: I'm calling a football game tonight. I got high school football.
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  Speaker 3: Arvada West versus Ralston Valley. The rivalry of Arvada.
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  Speaker 2: Calling it with CJ, right?
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  Speaker 3: CJ, Charles Johnson, my good buddy.
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  Speaker 2: I heard CJ talking about CU the other day. Gosh,
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  Speaker 2: what a crazy situation they're in. But in the meantime,
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  Speaker 2: would you like for me to blow your mind with
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  Speaker 2: a stat?
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  Speaker 3: Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: I have a list in front of me. The first
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  Speaker 2: four weeks of the NFL season. Average yards to go
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  Speaker 2: on third downs. Where do you think the Broncos rank
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  Speaker 2: out of 32 teams in this league?
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  Speaker 3: Last.
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  Speaker 2: Did you know the Broncos... Am I right? I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to tell you. The Broncos, with third in average distance
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  Speaker 2: to go, are fifth in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, wait.
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  Speaker 2: Their average distance is six yards.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: The only team's better. Okay. Are the Cardinals, the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 2: the Bears, and the Niners.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you know, this is a skewed stat. Where do
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  Speaker 4: they rank on third downs? Because I guarantee they hit
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  Speaker 4: third down more than your average team. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of teams will get a first down on
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  Speaker 4: second down or first down. The Broncos go through that
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  Speaker 4: succession of first, second, and third.
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  Speaker 2: The Broncos have had 52 third downs on the year.
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  Speaker 3: And what does that rank?
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  Speaker 2: There's teams who have had more. It looks like they're
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  Speaker 2: about middle of the road. The worst that I see
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  Speaker 2: is the Saints have 62. But here's why I think
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  Speaker 2: that matters. Last week, I believe they didn't have a
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  Speaker 2: first down on first or second down the entire game.
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  Speaker 2: They all came on third down, which is not a
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  Speaker 2: way for an offense to operate because you have to
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  Speaker 2: be perfect. And it's been sort of a criticism I've
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  Speaker 2: had with this offense for a long time. When you
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  Speaker 2: can't get explosives and you need 10 play drives to score, Vic,
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  Speaker 2: you tell me. Do you think this offense can be
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  Speaker 2: perfect for 10 straight plays?
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to do. There's going to be a false start.
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  Speaker 3: There'll be something in there.
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  Speaker 2: There'll be a drop pass. There'll be something.
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  Speaker 3: Which is why I contend just start the game by
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  Speaker 3: throwing deep. Back shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: I think you got to set it up.
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  Speaker 3: 25 yards, back shoulder. Give Cortland Sutton a chance to
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  Speaker 3: Jump to the ball.
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  Speaker 2: But is that weird? At the Broncos, we always talk
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  Speaker 2: about you want to get in the right down in distances,
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  Speaker 2: especially on third down. You want to be closer to
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  Speaker 2: the line. That's a baffling stat. They're fifth in the league.
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  Speaker 4: So where are they in third down rate?
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  Speaker 2: Like conversion rate?
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  Speaker 4: The down. That's the quarterback down. That's what John Elway
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  Speaker 4: always says. Quarterbacks are measured on third down. If you
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  Speaker 4: need one stat, he always said, if you need one stat,
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  Speaker 4: forget everything else. Forget quarterback rating, forget passer rating, forget
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff. Give me third downs.
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  Speaker 3: And that'll tell you what kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of quarterback you have. Take a guess. What do you
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  Speaker 2: think they are?
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  Speaker 3: Third down percentage. Where are they? Bottom half. Bottom third.
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  Speaker 2: They're tied for 11th.
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  Speaker 3: See, again, every number you've given me so far goes
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  Speaker 3: against the grain. So what the hell's the problem?
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  Speaker 2: So they're at 39.6%. We'll just call it 40. So
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  Speaker 2: what's the problem?
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  Speaker 5: You know what it is?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Just real quick. Do you know what the number one
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  Speaker 2: team is at the Niners? What their conversion rate is
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  Speaker 2: on third down? It's 58%. Pretty good. It's more than
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  Speaker 2: pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: That's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: But what do I do with this?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know because it goes against what our theories
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  Speaker 4: might be. They're converting third downs at a better pace
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  Speaker 4: than most teams. They're getting through the progression of downs
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  Speaker 4: better than most teams. And yet their offense is pedestrian
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  Speaker 4: at best. So what is it lacking? And what it's
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  Speaker 4: lacking then, this is my last try.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Explosive plays. They don't have long plays. They have short bursts,
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  Speaker 4: and it's tough to get a bunch of short bursts
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  Speaker 4: and put those together.
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  Speaker 3: The longest play I.
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  Speaker 4: Can remember from a Bronco offensive play this season was
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  Speaker 4: the bow to Jalen Waddle at the goal line, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: That was it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where he's rolling out to his right. Let's see. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: here you go. Where do you think the Broncos rank
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  Speaker 2: in explosive play rate? They're 29th in the league. That
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  Speaker 2: would make sense. All right, there.
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  Speaker 3: There it is.
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  Speaker 2: So that's it. The best teams in the league are
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  Speaker 2: the Bills are number one, the Niners, the Chiefs. I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And they got to rank near the bottom on explosive
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  Speaker 3: run plays. Because they don't break anything in the run.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they've had a 20-yard run all year.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of your standard. How many 20-yard
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  Speaker 2: runs do you have as a team? I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they have one yet. So, can Sean Payton fix that stuff?
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  Speaker 4: Isn't it wild when you're watching other games and you
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  Speaker 4: see running backs running for first downs?
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  Speaker 2: It's very odd.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he got a first down just running.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny that you mention that. Where do you think
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos... I'm just kidding. If I had one more,
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  Speaker 2: it would have been great. Go outside, nerd. But the
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  Speaker 2: Broncos this year... have ran for 21 first downs, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to... Whatever. I'm not going to look
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  Speaker 2: that up. It's got to be one of the worst
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  Speaker 2: in the league, though. It just has to be. They
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  Speaker 2: just don't... They don't... They don't have the ability to
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  Speaker 2: do that over and over and over again.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so when Sean Payton takes to the podium yesterday, and.
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  Speaker 2: He's asked, is play calling the problem? Is it preparation?
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  Speaker 2: What is it?
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  Speaker 6: He said, no, listen, I think there'd be too many
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  Speaker 6: things just to list, you know, the based stop right.
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  Speaker 2: There for a second. That's a pretty big indictment on
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  Speaker 2: Davis web. If he says I'm taking this over because
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  Speaker 2: there's too many things to list that need to be improved.
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  Speaker 3: He may be talking about prep too.
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the rest of it.
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  Speaker 3: No, I listen.
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  Speaker 6: I think there'd be too many things just to list,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the, We know we have to improve our
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  Speaker 6: balance in running the football. There's a handful of things.
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  Speaker 6: And then the hard thing when you are not the
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  Speaker 6: head coach, certainly there are things that you want to
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  Speaker 6: feel like are cleared, where when you're calling them as
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  Speaker 6: the head coach, you're in your mind prepared to say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: I don't have to run it by anyone. So it's
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  Speaker 6: changing things up and really trying to reduce some of
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  Speaker 6: the calories to get back to doing some things really well.
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  Speaker 6: And that's going to be the focus.
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  Speaker 3: The inference there is that maybe Davis was a little
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  Speaker 3: hesitant on some plays because he wondered if the head
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  Speaker 3: coach would approve. Yeah. And you want that hesitance to
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  Speaker 3: go away. Just do it. Just pull the trigger.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that this Sean Payton move through four games,
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  Speaker 4: first of all, I told you, I'm not surprised by it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think he wanted to let go of play-galling
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  Speaker 4: duties entirely when he did. But he figured, why not?
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  Speaker 4: It's a chance for me to... to grow a little
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  Speaker 4: bit as a head coach. It's a chance for me
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  Speaker 4: to do something different. It's a chance for me to
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  Speaker 4: grow my coaching tree. If it doesn't work out, I
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  Speaker 4: can always take it back. And that's exactly what's transpired.
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  Speaker 4: So this is not surprising, nor is it historic by
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  Speaker 4: any means. It happens all the time in the national
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  Speaker 4: football league. It happened to Sean Payton himself.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it did. It's not like it's unprecedented, but this
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  Speaker 2: is a little different than most changes midseason to coordinators
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  Speaker 2: in a sense. Well, a lot of people brought up like, well,
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  Speaker 2: Dan Campbell did this last year. Dan Campbell wasn't calling
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  Speaker 2: the plays before that. He lost his coordinator, Ben Johnson.
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  Speaker 2: He hired somebody else. That guy stunk, and he goes, fine,
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  Speaker 2: then I'll just do it. It's not the same as
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  Speaker 2: I've been calling plays for 20 years, and then I've
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  Speaker 2: given it to somebody else, and four weeks later, I've
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  Speaker 2: taken it back. It is different. It's a different thing.
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  Speaker 3: Let me read for you an article from the New
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  Speaker 3: York Post dated October 31st, 2002. Because that week, Sean
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  Speaker 3: Payton was stripped of play-calling duties. He was the Giants'
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  Speaker 3: offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 4: Jim Fossil, former Bronco assistant, at that time the Giants'
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  Speaker 4: head coach, said, I'm going to take over play-calling.
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  Speaker 3: Get out of the way. And Sean Payton was not happy,
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  Speaker 3: but he understood. He understood.
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  Speaker 4: I'll just read you some of the quotes that Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 4: this is Sean Payton being quoted. You know, we haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen a quote from Davis Webb.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. John Payton said, quote, there are certain people whose
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  Speaker 3: heads are on a different plane than others. It's always
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  Speaker 3: been a head coach, quarterback, coordinator. That's part of the deal.
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  Speaker 4: I take full responsibility for what we've done on offense.
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  Speaker 3: Payton was 38 years old at the time.
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  Speaker 4: He called every play that season until fossil said enough.
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  Speaker 3: They were three and four.
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  Speaker 4: They made a change after a 21-7 loss to the Cardinals. Quote,
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  Speaker 4: from Dan Campbell, of all people, who played for the Giants.
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  Speaker 4: He was a tight end. He said, quote, I like
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  Speaker 4: Sean Payton, and I feel like in some ways we
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  Speaker 4: let him down. You can't deny that we're not putting
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  Speaker 4: up points, but I can't sit here and go, hey,
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  Speaker 4: it's Sean Payton's fault, because I dang well know it's
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  Speaker 4: not his fault.
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  Speaker 2: And who is Peter.
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  Speaker 2: To Sean Payton's Jesus right now in the league, Dan
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  Speaker 2: Campbell is like, he is the disciple of all disciples
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  Speaker 2: of Sean Payton. Um, can I say this is where
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit different though, Vic, that wasn't Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton's fourth game as offensive coordinator. He was in year three.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All I'm saying is.
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  Speaker 3: Which makes it worse. Which makes... Hold on. Which makes
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  Speaker 3: it worse. Imagine Sean Payton having to stomach that in
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  Speaker 3: year three. Davis Webb just got started.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, man.
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  Speaker 3: You're just not ready yet. Let's try this again some
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  Speaker 3: other time.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's worse.
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  Speaker 3: I feel bad that this happened. Davis Webb's going to
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  Speaker 3: be fine. All right? He's going to be fine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he is. Everybody who insists, oh, my God, Davis Webb,
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  Speaker 3: he's done. He's fine.
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  Speaker 4: He'll rebound from this. Other coaches have. But Sean Payton,
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  Speaker 4: as we know, loves to control things. He's a control maniac.
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  Speaker 4: And that's a good and bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: I guess what I'm trying to get across to you, though, Vic,
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  Speaker 2: is if a head coach gets fired in year three,
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  Speaker 2: that's one thing. If a head coach gets fired like Hackett,
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  Speaker 2: 15 games in, that's another. Because you are saying, this
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  Speaker 2: is so bad that I can't even stomach another second
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  Speaker 2: of this. This needs to go immediately.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's that necessarily. I think it's Sean King.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on, hang on. I'm not saying it's the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: But that's where I think four weeks, that's what makes
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  Speaker 2: this different.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that Sean sort of figured this was coming. When?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe when he made the decision, he said, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think he noticed it in training camp? It's like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't do this now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I can't take this over already.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We wanted to see how it goes.
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  Speaker 4: And it doesn't help Davis' cause that he goes up
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  Speaker 4: against four great teams.
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  Speaker 2: To start the season.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other thing.
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  Speaker 4: That's the other thing that's hard to gauge, right? Because
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  Speaker 4: now the schedule gets a little bit easier.
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  Speaker 2: Got some news here from Adam Schefter. Mike Ditka just
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  Speaker 2: passed away.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: You're kidding me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he was dealing with some stuff over
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  Speaker 2: the last couple of years, though, I think.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.
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  Speaker 2: But obviously, you know what's funny about Mike Ditka?
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  Speaker 3: What a legend. What a legend.
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  Speaker 2: In so many ways. Like, obviously, as a player and
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  Speaker 2: a coach and all of that. But he was, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Ditka was, I don't know the right word to put
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  Speaker 2: on this. He was such a personality.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Within the football world. You know, he's doing movies. He
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  Speaker 2: did that movie with Will Ferrell, that soccer movie.
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  Speaker 3: He played the opposing soccer coach.
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  Speaker 2: The SNL sketches where the super fans treat him like
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  Speaker 2: he's a god, like all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: He wore a dress on Sports Illustrated, Ricky Williams. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you remember that when he was head
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  Speaker 4: coach of the Saints.
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  Speaker 2: Still, well, that year, didn't he trade every pick to
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  Speaker 2: draft Ricky Williams?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, they went crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I think they traded every single pick that they had
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  Speaker 2: to move up to take Ricky Williams, and then he
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  Speaker 2: He wore those fake dreads at the press conference when
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  Speaker 2: he got introduced.
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  Speaker 3: He was funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great.
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  Speaker 4: When he was in Chicago, obviously, he had the daily
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  Speaker 4: wars with Buddy Ryan, his defensive coordinator. I mean, they
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  Speaker 4: would go at it. And somehow, through that dysfunction, and
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  Speaker 4: there was high dysfunction there. So I always go back
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  Speaker 4: to this when people think that championship teams are always
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  Speaker 4: fine and dandy, everybody's getting along.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: They weren't getting along in Chicago in 85 when they
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  Speaker 3: won a championship. Yeah. There was some controversy. There was dysfunction.
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  Speaker 3: They still won a championship.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, of course, the Broncos taking on the Chargers,
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  Speaker 2: but this should be a game in which they shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have that many problems with this. I mean, think about it.
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  Speaker 2: You're going against a team, and forget offense right now.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll ask the question that I asked earlier. Get
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts, Vic. Do you expect the offense to look
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  Speaker 2: different this weekend?
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  Speaker 3: I wondered about the plate calling for the first series
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  Speaker 3: of the game. What are you going to see from
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton? All eyes will be on him in those
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  Speaker 3: first three. I say three because you anticipate three and out.
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  Speaker 4: But what do you think it's going to look like?
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  Speaker 4: And I think it's going to look different than you expect.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's going to come out zinging.
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  Speaker 3: It.
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  Speaker 2: With a decree to Bo Nix of push the ball downfield.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody says establish the run, and I get that. I
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  Speaker 3: respect that. I don't deny that. I don't deny it.
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  Speaker 3: But what if they can't?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I've wondered, too. I'm going to say this again.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know around this town if anybody has been
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  Speaker 2: trying to convince people of J.K. Dobbins more than I have.
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  Speaker 2: I've brought up his career numbers that win healthy. He
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  Speaker 2: is as effective as... Most other running backs in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: when you average five yards per carry, that is a
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  Speaker 2: really good back in the league. His problem is health.
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  Speaker 2: He can't stay healthy. I'm very concerned that J.K. Dobbins
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  Speaker 2: might just be done.
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  Speaker 3: He was so mad last week, too. He was trying
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  Speaker 3: to get back in the rotation. Yeah. He was just
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  Speaker 3: brooding on the sideline. You could tell he's frustrated.
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  Speaker 2: What is he frustrated with? And that's my question.
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  Speaker 3: All of it.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe there's part of him that doesn't like his own approach.
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  Speaker 4: There's part of it that says he's Set up to
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  Speaker 4: fail here.
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  Speaker 3: There's part of it that... Dealing with injuries again. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's probably a lot of it there. You
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  Speaker 3: can't convince me that he's at full strength.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll say this. I am not.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not concerned with the offense because I'm in the
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  Speaker 2: acceptance phase with the offense. Again, what I think is
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: going to happen on Sunday is the Broncos will have
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: a close game at half. They'll pull away late.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: So, same-o, same-o.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: And it'll be the same old thing that we've seen.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: But the reason why I'm not worried about this game
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the offense. It has everything
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: to do with your defense. Even without Sertan and Riley Moss,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: if they don't play, I still think you are going
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: to demolish the Chargers offense because of their offensive line problems.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: When they don't have– they might not have a single
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: starter healthy in that game. Not a single one. And
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: it's one thing for them to bring in the Chiefs,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: that undrafted rookie tackle who's never played left tackle before,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: but he gets a chip on every play from Travis
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Kelsey or gets help from a running back out of
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: the backfield. You can't do that for five guys. And
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I'll say that the Broncos' pass rush has been disappointing
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: to me this year. because they've been so good over
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: the last couple of seasons, you can tell they've taken
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: a little step back, and I think Jonathan Cooper being
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: absent has a lot to do with that. But there's
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: one thing I do know. Zach Allen is murdering people
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: this year.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: He's an animal. You know, I thought about something as
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: you were speaking words.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: It's my job.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I believe.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I could do my fake language again if you would
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: like to.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: I believe that the move for... Sean Payton to reclaim
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: play calling. I believe at the heart of that move
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: is this. They don't want to get through this season
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: and still not know the answer to the question, is
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Bo Nix worth.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: A big contract? They've got to have immense clarity on that.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: It has to be abundantly clear to them. They don't
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: want to guess on that because that's a big gamble.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: That's the kind of gamble that will put you in
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: a rut.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: So the only way to get to that point, the
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: only way to understand whether or not you can re-sign
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: him to that number is to make sure all other
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: distractions are out of the way. And maybe this, God,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: are the play calls the right play call?
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's that. Maybe it's the play calls.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: All right, let's get that out of the way. Let
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: me get the play calls back in again. Let's just
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: do it the way we did it last year. And
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I know last year there were problems too. But at
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: least the decision is in Sean Payton's hands now. Because
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: he's going to play a role in deciding that, right?
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: It's not just George Payton. It's not just the owners.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton. What kind of role do you think Sean
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Payton plays in the future of Bo Nix?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: All of it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: All of it?
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Some of it?
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Most of it? Well, okay. If we're ignoring the part
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: where a player has to be self-motivated and work hard,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's a problem for Bo, though. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: think he works hard.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: That's not the issue. The issue is, is he worth
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: $ 60 million?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Well, and here's my follow-up question to that. What's the standard?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Where do you get to the minimum? Like, what does
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: he have to hit to do it? Because would a
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: decent argument be, is a guy worth $ 55 million a
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: year that got you to an AFC championship game and
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: 14 wins, and if he was healthy, maybe a Super
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Bowl appearance? That feels like a pretty good standard. But
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: it's the same problem. Look, he's in a unique situation
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: that plenty of quarterbacks have been in. They had these
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: questions about Tua. But not having Tua was so scary
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of a thought that you had to pay him. Baltimore
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: had that for years with Joe Flacco. The thought of
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: having a bad quarterback rather than at least having Flacco.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but just did it with Baker Mayfield.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. Kyler Murray got paid in Arizona before they
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: caught him. Like the fear of this can be a
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: lot worse Cause I'm telling you guys, whatever you think
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of Bo Nix, Bo Nix is by far the best
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: quarterback you've had since Peyton Manning was here. And you
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: could very easily get back in the, in the world
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: of case canons and Joe Flacco's and Teddy Bridgewaters and
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: guys like that. So I don't know where the standard is.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I'm with you on the thought. I just don't know
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: where the standard is where he has to reach. Because
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Bo Nix, if nothing else,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: he's a winner. He wins football games.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, I think he wants to get his hands
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: in the mix here, Peyton, to better ascertain the answer
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: to that question.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, how about this?
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Put it that way. He wants to figure this out.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: All right, let's eliminate that secondary voice that didn't work.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: All right, whatever. I'm going to go back to being
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: the voice. Let's see. Is this going to be the
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: guy or not?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: What if the Broncos win 12 games this year? They
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: finish first in the division again. You get a home
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: playoff game.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: You don't have to finish the sentence. He gets his contract.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: But they win every game by an average score of
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: 17 to 14.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: He still gets his contract because the formula is working.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: By hook or by crook, however you want to say it, oh,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: my God, they're barely winning.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: The formula is working, and you have two straight seasons,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: three straight to prove it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: But you wouldn't have an answer to what you're talking about.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Enough of an answer.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Hmm. There is some sort of parable for this. I
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: just can't think of it at the moment. Bird in
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the hand or two in the bush, whatever. Something like that.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Parable of the camel?
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: But it's just the want for.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: How do I put this?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: You're overanalyzing this.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. What I'm saying is.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: No, no, here's the problem. This is a very easy
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: situation to analyze. Dude wants to get his hands in
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: the mix and figure out if this is it.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: That's it. No, that's, yes, I agree with that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: This is dad looking over the kid's shoulder. No, no, no,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: you're doing the cement mix all wrong.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Get out of the way. Do you know how many
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: times my dad did that to me? I don't know
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: how to fix a damn thing. You know me, right?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Triple A's my savior. I don't know how to fix anything.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: You know how many times my dad stood over me
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: and said, what the hell are you doing?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Just move. Let me do it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Exactly. But he didn't have the patience to watch me
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: mess up.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I'm addressing you asking whether Bo Nix is the $ 60
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: million a year quarterback or not. Here's, I think, a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: big part of it. Will Broncos fans and the franchise
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: accept anything less than a Peyton Manning, John Elway standard
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: at that position? Like, if you're winning football games, but
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you're winning because of your defense, is that good enough
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: to them? Or are you always going to be searching
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: for something better at that position? You won games because
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: John Elway was awesome.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: You won games because Peyton Manning was awesome. Well, you
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: won Super Bowl 50 because your defense was more awesome.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: That was Peyton Manning in the last year of his
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: career when he was very clearly aging.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Would you have... How about this? If Peyton Manning said
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: he wanted another year, what happens? Or if he said,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I want a three-year contract.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Then there would have been another... That's a different story.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm getting at.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Winning, yes, with your defense is fine, but there's still
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: going to be the question of, do we have to
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: do better here? And Bo Nix, I think, escaped with
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: that last season, and he gave you enough good play
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to keep you like, okay, there's something here. But if
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it doesn't change this season, your three's pivotal.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: So what do you think the first three plays are
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: going to look like? I gave you my guess.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to open it up.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I could see what you're saying. But he did mention, like,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: we have to run the ball better. Right. How about this?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I could see first plays a pass. Maybe you do take, like,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: an intermediate shot. 10, 15 yards. Next play's a run.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: There's going to be a run in the first two plays.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: That's my guess. I don't think he's just going to...
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: He didn't take over this offense to be like, all right,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: we're throwing 50 times a game. We saw that already.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: That's what Davis Webb was doing. So I don't think
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that's the case.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: This week could provide something that I think is advantageous,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: which is you're playing an opponent that's not only bad,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: but they're brutally injured. You could establish a decent lead
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and then give yourself some room to, let's say, bleep around.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: And if you find out, it's not going to hurt
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: as much.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: To be honest, Vic, I don't know because I don't
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: know what was different really in the first four weeks.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And so I don't know what the changes are going
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: to be here. I think what you said earlier in
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: the show is something that, that sticks out most to me.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: If nothing else, the biggest change I could see is
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: having dad in the headset. And I'm just going to
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: call Sean Payton dad for the moment, as opposed to
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: my buddy, little more stern, maybe in their approach. Maybe
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that's it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, bro? Hey, man. Let's run. Let's do it, brah. Hey, brah. Hey! Hey!
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Look at me!
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Hey!
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: He's open! You know what's an interesting question, by the way, yesterday?
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yesterday at the presser. This is from Legwald. It's a
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: good question. Was the decision harder to take play calling
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: back than it was to give it up initially? And
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: here's what Sean Payton said.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Was this a harder decision than making the decision?
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the decision in the.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Do you buy that?
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: No.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know. My whole theory is that he gave
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: the plate calling duties up knowing full well that he
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: could easily take them back if it didn't work. So
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I think giving up plate calling may have been easier. Yes.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Because I think he had a way out of that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: So.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: The whole thing to this to me was, I don't
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: think he took play calling back because Davis Webb was
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: such a disaster that he had to, right? Would you
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: agree with that? It wasn't so much about, I think
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Davis Webb is doing a horrible job. But if he
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: said it, he thinks he's pretty awesome at it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: I think I'm still one of them. That was a
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: good storyline for you guys. It was because I honestly
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: felt it was going to help us. I wouldn't have
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: done that if I didn't think that's how unique I
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: think he is. It was because I honestly thought standing
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: back as the head coach, it would help us.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: What did he think Davis was going to do better
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: than him is my question.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe he felt there were some things that he got
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: too tied down He got too committed to certain plays,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: certain tendencies, and a fresh look would help out. Maybe
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the way the season ended. Maybe that fourth down situation
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: where they went for it and didn't kick the field goal.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe that played a role.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Hey, man, if I had a real chance to sit
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: back and analyze that from afar, I would have done
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: something differently.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Who knows? Yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: But anybody who suggests that the decision was made for him,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it wasn't.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: That was his call to make that move.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: How about him dropping this, by the way?
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: We're focused on this week, so look, if I'm not
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: worth a hoot, then, you know, it's always what's best
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: for the team, honestly. And that's how I have to
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: step away and look at it. And so I think
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: we'll do what's best for the team.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: That's on if you would ever give the play calling back, which, no.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: Look, if I'm not worth a hoot.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Until the final game that he coaches here, he is
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: calling the plays.
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: There's nowhere else to go now except the quarterback who's
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: next in line to catch that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: In case you missed it, word came down.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Mike Ditka passed away, 86 years old, a legend of
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Think about how many coaches took on a cultural appeal almost.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: You know, SNL skit. Remember the Bears?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: The Superfans, yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: He became that guy, and there aren't many coaches who
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: build a status like that He became a great television personality.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: He was just sort of the epitome of the personality coach.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: It's so funny that you mention that. Were the Bears
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the day last week? Because I
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: was watching some of that game. Yeah, they were playing
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the Jets, and they flashed to the crowd. Do you
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: know how many people in Chicago, even before the passing
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that obviously just happened recently, go to Bears games dressed
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: as Mike Ditka?
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, God. Legendary status.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Is there another coach that's like that?
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: That's a great question.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Is he the only coach where he's like the Halloween
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: costume of the fans of that team?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Almost a caricature.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: You know, there's a restaurant in Chicago, Ditka's Restaurant. I've
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: been there several times. They have a cigar bar and
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: all this stuff.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: It's really cool. And you'll go in there, and you
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: could tell it's almost like a reverence. Yes. This is
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: a special place.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: It's almost like there's a restaurant in, and I don't
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: know if it still exists, near Central Park in New
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: York City called Mickey Mantle's. When I was an intern
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: working in New York City, I worked for WFAN. I
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: worked for NBC Sports. My job was to go to
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Mickey Mantle's restaurant and get Mickey his beer.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: And get him ready and set up in a booth.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Really?
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Yes. That was my job. That's amazing. My job was
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: to make sure that Mickey was set up and ready
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: to go.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, how cool.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: It was the coolest thing ever. But it was the
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: same thing. People would go to Mickey Mantle's because it
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: was Mickey freaking Mantle.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Just like they go to Ditka's.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Wait, do you know Francesa?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't work with him. It was a weekend show.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, weekend show. Gotcha. Somebody tell me, is there anybody
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: else that gets people to dress up? Chiefs fans, I guess,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: dress up like Andy Reid. Okay, that's one of them.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: And Andy's not that personable Mike Ditka loud.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: He's sort of laid back.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: But because he looks so unique, it's easy to do, right?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I can't think of coaches that are really in that category.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I dressed up as Vince Lombardi once.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Maybe Patriots fans used to do the hoodie with the
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: cutoff sleeves for Belichick.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the cutoff sleeve thing was a big deal.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: It really was.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike Dicapass at 86 years old. His news came
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: down about 30 minutes ago. 303-504-0925. Again, just because it's
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Saturday doesn't mean the local sports talk stops, whether you're
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: taking the kids to practice, running errands, or just enjoying
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: your morning. Springer and Tanner talking all things Denver sports
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: tomorrow from 9 to 1 on Altitude. Not to mention,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: do you know the lineup we have this weekend of games?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: What we got.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So tomorrow, Indiana and Nebraska is going to be on
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: AM 950 at 10 o'clock. Then Texas, Oklahoma at 2.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: We have Leafs and Avs at 5 o'clock. And the
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Rapids in the earthquakes on AM 950 at 730. And
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: then on Sunday, because these international games are going on,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: 715 in the morning. It's Eagles and Jags in London.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: And I think the Eagles are going to get roasted
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: in that game. Because they're dealing with the same thing
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: the Chargers are. They got no healthy bodies in their
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: offensive line. Then it's Texans and Titans on AM 950
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: at 11. Ravens and Falcons at night. And Bulls and
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Nuggets preseason also on at 730.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: What do we have tonight?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Tonight we have, I don't think that's true. These are
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the wrong names. You tell me, Vic, because this is
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Grandview and Mullen.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Tonight it's Arvada West in Ralston Valley.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Arvada West, Ralston Valley. Vic Lombardi is going to be
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: on the call tonight.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Me?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: I'm right here. With Charles Johnson. So tune in for that.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: What time again?
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: 7 o'clock, I believe. That's what time I'm getting there.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: So just wait for me.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: If it goes a little earlier than that, just give
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: us a second. We'll catch you up on all the action.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: We'll get to drunk takes next. All right, Bud Light
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Football Friday. We'll get to drunk takes here in just
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. Now let's take a look at
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the weekend. Remember, Avs and Maple Leafs tomorrow at 5 o'clock,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: so that'll be on 92.5, or you can hear it
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: right here. The big college game tomorrow, Georgia and Bama,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: number two versus number six. Does it surprise you that
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Bama's a point-and-a-half favorite in that game?
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: No, nothing surprises me in that one. Bama's actually playing
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: great football. That quarterback has come through, and they're starting
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: to look like Bama again.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: He had, yeah, Keaton Russell. He had a slow start
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: to the season. He's picked it up since then. They
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: really only had, I guess, a couple of games. They
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: had two weeks in which I was sort of questioning
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: what they were. They were playing against Kentucky. I think
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: they were trailing at halftime to Kentucky before rolling against
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: them in the second half. If you remember, Vic, That
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: game they had in week three against Florida State was
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: a really tight game until, again, they pulled away towards
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: the very end. But they were down in that game
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: like 28-26 in the third quarter and just turned it on. Now,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Georgia is Georgia, and they will continue just to roll
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: through teams.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Whoever loses this game is not going to lose grip
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: of a playoff hope.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Put it that way. They're going to be still talked
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: about in contention, whatever.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Well, Georgia's quarterback, that Gunnar Stockton kid.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: Athlete.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: He had, I think through three weeks of this season,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: had more touchdowns than incompletions on the year. It's changed
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a bit since then, but he's completing 76% of his passes.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: That was that Mensah kid from Miami. Same deal. He
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: had more touchdowns than completions at one point.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Um, The big factor in this is they got that
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: storm coming through. They're in a flood watch right now.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: They're saying wins should be in the mid-20s for Gus
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: during that game, which can throw, you know, if you're Russell,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: if you're Stockton, whatever, good luck passing the ball and
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: that stuff. Could be an old school SEC 13-10 kind
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: of game if they do end up playing that this weekend. Now,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, I think the marquee game of the
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: week is, uh, is pretty obvious one. You got bill
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: of Rams on Monday night. And that is, you know,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it always feels like the, the Rams are like on
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: the brink.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: The Rams rescue themselves last week. That was a rescue job.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: No doubt about it because they're on the brink of
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: one and three and like, Oh, and they rallied just
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: in the nick of time, the bills. And the other hand,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: you thought they had that game under control. They, regained
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: the lead and gave a right back.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: So what are the bills?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I think the bills are still good. What's funny is
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: both of their quarterbacks, like Stafford has not had a
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: good year. Stafford's got six picks already this season. He
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: had eight all of last year. So he's not going
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to be an MVP this season if that continues that way.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: They're going to put themselves in a lot of trouble
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: if he keeps turning the ball over. And it just
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: feels like it's been a kind of pedestrian year for
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen so far. He's just been okay.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe the standards are too high for you. Maybe
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: okay in your book is great in others. If I
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: told you Bo Nix looked like Josh Allen right now.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: You'd be doing cartwheels. Hey, speaking of, you know the
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Ben DiNucci we've had on this show a couple times?
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Here are his thoughts on what's happening.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Can we get him back on?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we should.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I thought he was a friend of this program.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: He is a friend of the program, but I want
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: to read his thoughts because he wrote them out here.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: He says, quote, It's a really weird way of Sean
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Payton saying the starting quarterback needs to play better.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: True.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: And again, that's why I told you. This is a
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: nudge to Bo Nix. And this is what I mean.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Without him taking the blame.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: And this is what I mean. This is what I mean. Bo,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: here's the play call. It's a 34 Zebra for spread
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: bear spray to.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I love that call.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Here's now the play call. Bo, it's 34, Zebra 2,
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Bear Spray 4. Hey, hey, open your eyes. Middle of
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: the field will be there.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Sutton's going to be open, something like that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: So I don't know what's said, but it's going to
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: sound different. He also says, DiNucci, he never was or
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: is going to bench Bo, so naturally he takes back
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: play-calling duties to protect Bo.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: I think for.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: You don't want your quarterback to lose confidence. And do
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: you remember when he was talking about... I'll play this
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: one more time. Remember when he said this?
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: What does the play ask for? What situation in the
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: game are we? Are we in the fourth quarter to
• 37:19
  Speaker 7: where we're down by eight? It doesn't matter. I got
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: to do this anyway. Yeah, then let's do it. But
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: at the same time, we weren't in that situation before.
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: majority of the game to where it's just all or nothing.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: Let's just be dumb. At the same time, I want
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: to be aggressive. I want to be really when it's open,
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: let's hit it. At the same time, I've been gotten
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: too many times trying to do too much. In this
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: day and age in our offense, I don't have to
• 37:43
  Speaker 7: be a hero on every play. I don't have to
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: do too much. Get the ball to RJ and.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: He'll run for 20.
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: That's just as good as sometimes throwing it 20 yards
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: in the air. I'm actively looking at it, seeing where
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: I can grow, but The labels and stuff, that's where
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: you can sort of get caught.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Up in it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 7: And if you're not careful, turnovers may go through the roof,
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: and that's just not what I need to be doing.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't exactly know what he means by labels.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I don't get that either.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I think maybe he's talking about people labeling him as
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: a check down quarterback. But if he is worried about
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: what people are saying on the outside, that's not good.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: And maybe this is Sean Payton's way of shielding Criticism
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: coming his way and saying, nope, it wasn't on him.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It was on us as an offensive staff. So now
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: we're going to get this thing right. I think it
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: buys him time, we'll say. He's protecting his quarterback.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Again, this is.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: By taking blame on... Yeah, most of it's going to
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: fall on Davis Webb because he took his responsibilities away.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: But them as an offensive staff.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: That's why I said this is their last way to
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: evaluate him properly.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I think so. Now... Bo Nix is never getting benched, right?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Not this season, unless things go really sideways. I mean,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: really sideways.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: And the allure of what Jared Stidham could have been
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: is kind of gone with that AFC championship game. If
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: he didn't play in that, then maybe it feels a
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: little bit different.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Dude, so much is riding on that position. You can't
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: afford to drain your quarterback's confidence in year three.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: You just can't go there. You can't do it. So
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: you give him as long of a leash as possible.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: And you know what helps with that leash? If you
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: can run the ball. I don't think they can.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that would really.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: suck.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Because I think you're going to have to have a
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: halfway decent offense.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think they can. I'm not disagreeing with you.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: If I told you the Denver Broncos this Sunday would
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: run the ball for 185 yards.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I'd be shocked. And one dude would eclipse 100. Shocked.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Of course you would be.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: They've never really done it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: They can't do it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: So with that, let's get to our favorite part of
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the week, Drunk Takes.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Marsha Lombardi and Kane present Drunk Takes. For the record,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I think this sort of dehumanizes us.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: And it really cracks at our credibility as a show.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: Drunk Takes.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Drunk takes are clips from throughout the week. We slow
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: them down to half speed. It makes it sound like
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: we're hammered. Nelly?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: The farmer picks the chickens here. The chickens don't just
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: show up. They're shopping. They're going to the auction. They're
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: at the auction. They're going, hey, better, better, better. They're
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: picking these chickens.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Did you say, hey, better, better? That's your auctioneer?
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: That would be a cool-ass auction.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: You need to be, what's his face? Dallas, what's his name?
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: That would be cool.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Hey, ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da, 300 feet.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Hey, ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da, 400.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: What's next?
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Hey, do you suffer from slow drainage, gurgling sounds, unpleasant odors?
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I'm not speaking of co-hosting a show with Mark Mosier
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: here at the studio.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: He did that for half of your read?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Look what he did. He's not professional, dude. I'm doing
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: a live read.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: That's a serious.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I'm selling stuff.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: What's next?
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: If I'm a skilled snake handler, I would get a
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: hoe or a shovel and pick it up and put
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: it into a trash can and move it to a
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: safe place would be very easy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, I can find a hoe. Let me ask you
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: a serious question.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, I have hoes in different areas.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: Nelly, you're in on this. Nelly, you're in. Do you
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: own a hoe?
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I do not own a hoe.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: No. Let me.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Like, who owns a hoe?
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Peppa.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Peppa Jack owns a hoe.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: I'm being truthful here.
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: Why would you need a hoe? What are you doing
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: with a hoe?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: It's not for a residential yard, I don't think.
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: No.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: So when Chad says, go get your hoe.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: What hoe?
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I gots a hoe. Oh, please.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: All right, what's next?
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: What was the game? Was it Mongolians who had like
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: a goat's head? It was like... Not lacrosse, but you
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: rode horses with a goat's head and you tried to
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: score it. Like water polo on horses.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: With a goat.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I know I think the Aztecs had a game where
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: they used human heads.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: We need to bring that back. I agree. I don't
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: know what you guys are talking about.
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: It's true.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Look it up.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: History.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I just told you history of Francis Scott Key's son
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: earlier today. What's next?
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Because he hurt himself. Moving his motorcycle.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: Moving it?
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Dude, I had to push it half a mile uphill.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Big deal.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: You know how many times I have to move my hog?
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: It's good for one of those a week. All right,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: a couple more.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. Moshe, I just want you to know one thing.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: As you were peering over my shoulder, I was looking
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: at my phone. Your breath smells so bad. That I
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: nearly vomited as you were breathing into my ear.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Seriously, you gotta, whatever you got in there, take care
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: of it. On Monday, I came in studio, and you
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: know how Mosher tends to show you whatever's on his phone?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: But he got ultra close. Right up in there. Does
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: he do that with you?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: Like, ultra, ultra close. And I looked at it, like,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I gave him that look, that, like, hey, you've exceeded
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: the boundaries.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: Back off.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Yes. But he was all breathing. But he doesn't care.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: But he was breathing right up on me.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: One more, Nelly.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. The 49ers played I'm going to smack you
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: in the mouth football.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: And they kept running McCaffrey and kept running him. And
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: then they had the black kid coming.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: He long black.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It's the man's name. And then they had the black
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: kid coming.
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: Keelan Black.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Still one of my favorite things he said. Because when
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: he first said it, I was like, Jesus, Moj.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: And then he goes, no, no, Keelan Black.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay. Thank God.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: But it is funny. He chose the only team with a.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Predominantly white running back to say that about.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: iTunes, Spotify, Mojo, Lombardi, and Kane. Have a wonderful weekend.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you on Monday.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Love you.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: See you. Sirianni blew the game again for the
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Ons most times.