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NFL Conference Championship | January 26, 2025 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fall systems go clear, we lift. What's up everyone?
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo, and we're back
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  Speaker 1: another edition of the NFL Playoff shows. We've got the
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  Speaker 1: Championship Round. My favorite weekend of the entire NFL season.
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  Speaker 1: I everybody loves the super Bowl, but I think this
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  Speaker 1: is a bigger weekend. I love this one every single year.
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  Speaker 1: Got Hoopster here with me, got title as usual. Gonna
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  Speaker 1: break it all down for you guys, Gonna go position
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  Speaker 1: by position for the two gamer. It's a two game
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  Speaker 1: staggered late be able to watch those games back to back. Hoopster,
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  Speaker 1: Bring you in, man, what's going on? My friend?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing well? Would have been doing a little
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  Speaker 2: bit better if my allions were playing this weekend. But
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  Speaker 2: they definitely do not deserve to be here after that
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  Speaker 2: absolute agg And I'm sure we'll get into it. We
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  Speaker 2: can kind of well, we'll have a lot of time
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  Speaker 2: to talk through some things and they air some grievances,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, we'll get into all that. But it's
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you, man, this is it. I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: teams have everything to play for, obviously going to the
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl. I love the teams that are in and
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  Speaker 2: I think they have all deserved their spot for sure,
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  Speaker 2: and Commanders definitely have deserved their spot. Jaden Daniel is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely phenomenal, and they're just playing. They're they're they're playing
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  Speaker 2: to their team strengths and you absolutely love to see it.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, obviously they're the one surprising team playing
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  Speaker 2: this weekend, but they've definitely deserved it. Eagles, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just just getting the job done despite Jalen Hurts being
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  Speaker 2: a little dinged up, and you know, it seems actually
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  Speaker 2: pretty real that he is dinged up. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: that as well, wearing a knee brace today, so he's
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  Speaker 2: clearly not one hundred. And then I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 2: the Bills and the Chiefs. Man, I cannot wait. I
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  Speaker 2: cannot wait for that game. That's gonna be a fun
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  Speaker 2: one for sure. And you know, in terms of DFS,
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  Speaker 2: you know, obviously we'll get into it all. But it's
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  Speaker 2: a pretty you know, interesting slate. I'll say, from the
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  Speaker 2: perspective of man, you look at the wide receiver, there's
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  Speaker 2: just not many appealing wide receiver plays. There's one running
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  Speaker 2: back play that everyone wants to play in the sites.
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  Speaker 2: Did a horrendous job pricing him, which is very, very unfortunate.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll talk about all that, but you know, back
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  Speaker 2: to your main point. Very excited for these two games.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of fun and looking forward to
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  Speaker 2: watching them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually I'm just excited for both. And I
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  Speaker 1: love what you said there. Like I think the Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City game always has some history to it. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's Josh Allen Mahomes. But Jayden Daniels Man, this guy
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  Speaker 1: is something. I just pulled it up after a Boma
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  Speaker 1: said to the moon. We like that. You can't run
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  Speaker 1: to the moon, but you can take a rocket ship,
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  Speaker 1: so we appreciate that. You know, a couple of things
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  Speaker 1: where I bring title and food takes, we'll get those
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  Speaker 1: at the end. Don't worry. We always got you on
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  Speaker 1: that and the Lions lost, the Ravens lost, and lost
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  Speaker 1: the Fantasy Golf World Championship seat on the last part.
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  Speaker 1: So things are all staying the same hoop where nobody cares,
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  Speaker 1: work harder, but we're close. We're waiting to bust out title.
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  Speaker 1: You've had a ton of close calls recently as well
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  Speaker 1: yourself by friend, so maybe today is the day. What's
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  Speaker 1: going on? Title? How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Man? Yeah, I was debating on one hat to wear.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like today feels like a great data ship it.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of money on both sites, so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we're ready to get it back today.
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  Speaker 3: I do love this week, but it's really bittersweet.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, there's only one more game left and it's
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  Speaker 4: a showdown site and then NFL is done for the year.
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  Speaker 4: So my favorite always Week one because I know we
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  Speaker 4: had a lot of football left. But I mean, man,
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  Speaker 4: I think two Super Bowls back to back, seeing Buffalo
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  Speaker 4: and Baltimore, I thought two of the best teams.
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  Speaker 3: Now Chiefs Bills, two of the best teams.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, you can't really drop a better football
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  Speaker 4: game with the history and stuff too. And yeah, Jayden
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  Speaker 4: Daniels is balling six point underdogs on the road, divisional
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  Speaker 4: matchup in the champion or division championship. So it's really
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  Speaker 4: really fun. Two great games, big boy money up top.
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  Speaker 4: Pricing awful though, so we'll get into it. It keeps
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  Speaker 4: the salary for sure.
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  Speaker 1: One thing about that, because Hoops mention it you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: I certainly agree hundred percent like everybody does. And I
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  Speaker 1: know what people always say, and I say it too,
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  Speaker 1: is you know, we all are dealing with the exact
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  Speaker 1: same slate. We all have the same horrendous pricing. If
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  Speaker 1: that's how you view it, we do very clearly. So
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  Speaker 1: we have to talk about how to play it, and
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  Speaker 1: that's what we do on this show. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: break it all down as we get through it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: treating it almost more like a showdown slate because while
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  Speaker 1: there's two games, it's very simple to just look at
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  Speaker 1: your best lineup that has AJ Brown knock AJ Brown
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  Speaker 1: down to DeVonta Smith and hope that Smith comes through.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be way less duped than that. I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people expect it. If it goes the
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  Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be a highly chopped slate on
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  Speaker 1: a two gamer with the pricing like this, you are
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to look for ways to get different, and
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  Speaker 1: that will certainly be some of them. Some some receipts
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  Speaker 1: came out yesterday. Hoop more receipts. I will say, I
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  Speaker 1: know it's a football show, but more people are posting
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  Speaker 1: their golf betting slit after winning down. They're even tagging
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  Speaker 1: you in them. Hoops, You're starting a movement for people
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  Speaker 1: knowing that you know, you're on patrol and you need
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  Speaker 1: to see those receipts.
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  Speaker 2: So Harrison, but yeah, but it's the honest people that
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  Speaker 2: I expect to get them from. The scammers in the
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  Speaker 2: industry are still hide in the receipts, the ones trying
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  Speaker 2: to sell their content and not posting any wins to
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  Speaker 2: go along with it or posting anything to go along
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  Speaker 2: with it. So the honest, loyal people out there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: definitely the ones that are posting the receipts, the ones
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  Speaker 2: that I have my eye on looking for. Still ain't
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  Speaker 2: seeing them.
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  Speaker 1: Hoop out here making making golf betting great again. Look
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  Speaker 1: at them go, So definitely appreciate it. Times all right,
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  Speaker 1: before we get into it, the you know, the grand
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  Speaker 1: scheme over you breaking this one all down, there was
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  Speaker 1: you know, just a quick chat on the on the
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  Speaker 1: last week and stuff, anything that you can take away
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  Speaker 1: bringing it over to this week from from what you
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  Speaker 1: saw last week. We start there because we we know
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  Speaker 1: these two teams, we know these games, but what's fresh
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  Speaker 1: in your mind just coming over from last weekend?
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  Speaker 2: You kind of now just opened up the box into
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  Speaker 2: last week. So I'm going to go on a quick
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  Speaker 2: little ramp in regards to my Lions, and you guys
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  Speaker 2: can can you know, you can take it out of
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  Speaker 2: you want. I mean, that's an inexcusable loss. As a
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  Speaker 2: Lions fan or as just in the Lions organization, you
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  Speaker 2: can't lose that game. And I get Jayden Daniels been phenomenal,
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  Speaker 2: but nine and a half ten point favorite at home
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  Speaker 2: fifteen and two in the regular season, fight your ass
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  Speaker 2: off all the way through Week eighteen to get the
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  Speaker 2: buy and then you just get smoked. It was never
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  Speaker 2: even close. You just get absolutely dusted by a rookie quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: And again taking nothing away from Jaden Daniels at all,
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  Speaker 2: he is phenomenal. Just cannot let that happen. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that just cannot happen. I mean, right out of the gate,
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  Speaker 2: it was just stupid. And we talked about on the
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  Speaker 2: show because we said we're going to know right away
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  Speaker 2: what the Lions plan on doing with David Montgomery, and
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  Speaker 2: it was a massive mistake. I mean, they open up
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  Speaker 2: the first drive with Montgomery, give him two touches. You
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  Speaker 2: can tell no explosiveness at all. I mean he's got
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  Speaker 2: nothing at that point. You can you could totally tell.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there was nothing there and they punt right
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  Speaker 2: away because they give him two carries, and that was
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  Speaker 2: to me a huge, huge mistake, like right out of
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  Speaker 2: the gate. They needed to be massively in favor of
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  Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs, like almost maybe all the work. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the dude is an absolute stud in terms of you know,
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  Speaker 2: where he ranks with running backs. He's right up there
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  Speaker 2: with the top guys. If he gets all the work,
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  Speaker 2: He's the Sakwon Barkley, He's a Derrick Henry whoever you
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  Speaker 2: have ranked up there. Jamiir Gibbs is right with them.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that you're not even opening up the
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  Speaker 2: games with that guy. First mistake right out of the gate,
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  Speaker 2: and then yeah, people are posting about golf. Golf was
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  Speaker 2: fucking awful, right and he's had these games all season long,
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  Speaker 2: like really bad games. I remember the Texans, he was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Five interceptions, he was beyond awful. And I personally, I
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of people want to defend him. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a bigger picture thing. As a Lions fan,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard for me to say this, but their asses
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  Speaker 2: are not winning with him as their quarterback and you
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  Speaker 2: look at the quarterbacks that are left right now, Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, and then Mahomes to some degree
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  Speaker 2: run a little bit, but those other three are primary
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  Speaker 2: running corners. You don't have to be a running quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: You have to be elusive enough to get away from
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  Speaker 2: some pressure. And he's a fucking statue back there and
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  Speaker 2: just takes it and it leads to bad passes. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the interceptions were terrible. And then man, there's just so
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  Speaker 2: many things you can go into. But for me, you
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  Speaker 2: got to give Golf all or you got to give
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  Speaker 2: gives almost all the work in that game, and they didn't.
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  Speaker 2: You could tell right away with Montgomery, they kept trying
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  Speaker 2: to go back to him, so stupid Golf was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other thing that's just so funny to me,
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  Speaker 2: like Aaron glenn is, like he just gave up forty
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  Speaker 2: five points in the first round of the playoffs to
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  Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback and these teams still want his ass,
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  Speaker 2: Like that's crazy me. I get the Ben Johnson thing.
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  Speaker 2: He's been very innovative with the play calling. The Jamison
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  Speaker 2: Williams play I think was a really bad tacking that
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  Speaker 2: spot like makes no sense, Like I get it, but
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  Speaker 2: if it's not there, you just throw it away or something.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just giving the team an interception. I think
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  Speaker 2: that was a really bad play call in that spot.
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  Speaker 2: And then Jamison Williams just fully checked up. But that
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  Speaker 2: is a very inex the lost the Lions. I was
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  Speaker 2: at the game, and like it just kills me to
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  Speaker 2: see these fans.
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  Speaker 1: Man.
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  Speaker 2: NFL fans are like no other. I mean, they are
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  Speaker 2: like no other. These It's their lives, man, these people.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I wasn't in the suite, and I'm not like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bragging about being in a suite usually, but
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't in a suite. I was with the common
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  Speaker 2: folk and these people behind you, in front of you,
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  Speaker 2: to the sides, Like this is their life and I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize it was to that degree. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: is their life, man. And like they're down seventeen with
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  Speaker 2: three minutes ago, and these fans still think they're coming
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  Speaker 2: back and winning this game, Like and like you can't
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  Speaker 2: say anything negative about any of the players, any of
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  Speaker 2: the coaches, like they are in in in no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: I was a tough scene. I'm not gonna lie to
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  Speaker 2: witness all that. But my main takeaway as a Lions
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  Speaker 2: fan is, man, they are not They're not gonna win
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  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl with Golf as a quarterback. And you
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  Speaker 2: know it's obviously you know people are gonnay, oh, it's
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  Speaker 2: one bad game. No, man like that. That's a bigger
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  Speaker 2: picture issue. Golf is not the answer for the Lions.
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  Speaker 1: So I appreciate the rant, as does the chat, because
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  Speaker 1: it's good to get that off your chest. But one
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  Speaker 1: thing I heard in all of that, it was you
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  Speaker 1: gotta hear between the lines, if you will the Lions,
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  Speaker 1: the lines here between. I heard that you would take
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson over golf is all I heard right there,
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: because at the start of the season you told me
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  Speaker 1: there's no way, but it sounds like you would rather Lamar.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: Same result for Lamar Jackson for what like the sixth
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: playoff run in a row. I mean, he he's not
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  Speaker 2: the answer in the playoffs either either. That was that
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  Speaker 2: those were bad, bad turnovers, and you know how it's
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  Speaker 2: going to end. I know, I know you guys, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: title was in on the Ravens. Financially, I know that's
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  Speaker 2: your team, but at some point you got to say
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  Speaker 2: that guy can't get the job done and he continues
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  Speaker 2: to fail. I mean and bad mistakes too, I mean
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  Speaker 2: just dropping the ball, they pick it up and then they.
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  Speaker 1: Paul too that that was a key father issues.
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  Speaker 2: Too, other issues too, don't get me wrong, but man, Lamar,
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  Speaker 2: he can't get the job done, and it's tougher. It's
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  Speaker 2: a tougher route for him too in the AFC when
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  Speaker 2: you have to contend every year with he's gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to beat Josh Allen and Mahomes at some point over
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  Speaker 2: the next what ten years? Those guys aren't going anywhere
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  Speaker 2: anytime soon, So it's a much tougher path for him,
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  Speaker 2: I will say that. But his ass can't get the
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  Speaker 2: job done.
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  Speaker 1: I think you'd rather him than golf title where you
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  Speaker 1: at on this. Shout out to Joanne, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: first in in the comments. Got to give her credit.
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  Speaker 1: She was up at the crack of dawn with the
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: late night crew over in the ship at Nation discord.
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  Speaker 1: Had she must have been over on the comments when
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  Speaker 1: we were doing that. But Ted, I'll let you chime in.
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  Speaker 1: The bet pushed someone said, if it had a went
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  Speaker 1: to ot, would you technically win? Because the Ravens made
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  Speaker 1: it a quarter longer.
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  Speaker 4: No, well what is it, Charlie Brown? So Lamar is
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to throw the ball seventy yards in the
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  Speaker 4: air and run under and catch it. Is that is
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  Speaker 4: all what Lamar needs to do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this too, man like, Yeah, this is the
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  Speaker 1: other thing. It's just you know, you put him over
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  Speaker 1: in the NFC, not facing off against Mahomes and and
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  Speaker 1: you said you played the same result last week he
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: played his MVP contender Josh Allen and the team that's
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: like the favorite still in a good spot. Now. The
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  Speaker 1: Mahome stuff is always going to be there. So not quite.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll talk about my bet later on. But I
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: will say I think a lot of people still like
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: the Bills today against the Chiefs, but go ahead title.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously we knew the path, like the I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if Food would have taken the bet if the
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  Speaker 4: Ravens were in the NFC.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I will say, Nick Mars.
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: I remember you. You're giving me shit too. I test
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: wise you need some glasses. Hey, I do think I
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: do think the Ravens a should have won that game.
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  Speaker 4: These still think they're the best team, but it's really close.
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  Speaker 4: Bill's Chiefs, Ravens. That's why two weeks in a row,
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  Speaker 4: we were blessed with Super Bowl the best three teams
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  Speaker 4: I believe playing, which is so awesome. Two things for whop.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't able to watch much of Lion's game. I
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  Speaker 4: was at the fights. But so, Dan Campbell, are you
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  Speaker 4: bailing on him a little bit? Like the Montgomery stuff
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day that stems from Campbell?
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  Speaker 4: And I mean just regular season wise, it was always
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  Speaker 4: so obvious Gibbs in Montgomery night and day.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, touch on that.
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  Speaker 2: So for me, it's it's I do have some concerns.
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  Speaker 2: I like him as a coach for sure, but I
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: I read an article or so I read a comment.
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  Speaker 2: I don't read articles. I usually just read the main
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  Speaker 2: topics and then get the hell out of there. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like reading all that much. But it was a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good point. And I read the first couple sentences
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  Speaker 2: I say, of an article and it made sense. But
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  Speaker 2: his loyalty, I think, is going to hurt him down
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  Speaker 2: the stretch here with with with the Lions. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you see it, he's very loyal. Montgomery injured injured, injured
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  Speaker 2: for what four or five weeks, he comes back right
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  Speaker 2: to the same role, like he can't can't have that.
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  Speaker 2: He probably didn't want to hurt his feelings because he
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  Speaker 2: wanted and I knew that was a concern last week
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  Speaker 2: for sure. We talked about it on this show, and
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  Speaker 2: now you're seeing it with these coordinators as Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 2: and Eric Glenn as they leave. He's just he's promoting within.
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  Speaker 2: He's staying very loyal to his people, and that's that's great,
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  Speaker 2: probably for camaraderie and the environment that they're working with.
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  Speaker 2: But this is the NFL, man, and when some's not
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  Speaker 2: working or you need to make changes, loyalty has to
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  Speaker 2: go go out the window. He's gonna be loyal to Golf,
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna be loyal to all these people in the organization.
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  Speaker 2: Who is loyal to David Montgomery Obviously last week I
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  Speaker 2: think it's his loyalty is really it's really gonna hurt him,
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  Speaker 2: honestly and the Lions moving forward. So I still like
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  Speaker 2: him as a head coach, but I have some big
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  Speaker 2: time concerns moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, makes a lot of sense. I got nothing else.
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  Speaker 1: Move it along. We'll go to the Grand Scheme. Overview
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  Speaker 1: title I'm gonna kick it back to you now that
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  Speaker 1: we talked last week, let's talk this week two. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about, you know, premier matchups here. I think Jayden
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  Speaker 1: Daniels very special. Him going up against Hurts, Hurts a
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: little banged up. Talk about that, and then obviously the
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  Speaker 1: big time game later on tonight that everyone is most
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: excited for. But then how it applies to the slate
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: and shapes it up. I think everybody just assumed shootout
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: late Barkley and the defense in the first game, boom,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: you win all the money. Well, how often does that
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: actually work out? We'll see, But go ahead, tight, I'll
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: let you give your grand scheme overview for the two
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: games at hand today.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think a couple of points from
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: the start that are really applicable. So, first of all,
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: salary very very soft, especially on DraftKings, like no reason
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Sakwae should be eight six, he should be ten K plus.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: So immediately and you talked about your treating this as
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: a showdown.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: We talked about a lot.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: These two game slates are a lot more showdown ish
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: than they are main slates, which means leaving money two
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: K on the table in the Millimaker with one hundred
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: and forty thousand most definitely in play, and AJ Brown
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: and DeVante Smith little things like that very much. So
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: what I'll be looking to do, because yeah, it's a showdown,
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: it's a game theory, it's a chop slate at the
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: end of the day.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Second point you kind of just mentioned it.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: The second game looks to be getting way more ownership
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: than the first game. A lot of people worried about
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts his legs. AJ Brown been reading a book
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: on the sideline non exists in Davonte Smith all this stuff.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: The highest receiving prop on the slate Travis Kelcey at
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: seventy and a half yards, which is very interesting. Which
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: the third point, which you've touched on in the beginning,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: like running.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Back very concentrated.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: All four quarterbacks are in play, and we'll get ownership,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: which you definitely like on a slate like this, so
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: it spreads out stuff a little more. But the receiver
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: room is really really gross. Nobody priced above seven K.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: But then also, like we seen Curtis Samuel in the
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: first game against Denver, go up and get you seventeen
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: or eighteen. Matt Collins had a really close shot last
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: week of thirty five yard touchdown which would have scored.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Well there, I'm saying all this like I have no
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: receiver projected over sixteen any of these guys really cut
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: a touchdown like they easily could be on the winner.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Like receiver room is so gross.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Aj Brown has shown a very low floor to start,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: like Jakiir might even feel. Or Terry McLure, I feel
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: like the safest not a great matchup for Terry mclaur
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: and all the Shakirs passes are like within three yards,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: it seems so the receiving room just looks. The range
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: of outcomes on all these guys is so wide. I
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: think that's where you get different. A lot of that
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: will be like the showdown stuff and Matt Collins, a
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel's, Amari Cooper's Zakias I will I'll be playing
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: them more so when I am playing their quarterback. But
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: like it's hard to get different at running back, like
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: making a case against a Kwan. I'm curious to hear
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: your guys takes tight ends pretty solid. People will play
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: some two tight end like always though Kelsey again only
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: six K the highest receiving prop on the slates defense,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: I hope you guys have a strong take that's usually
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: not the case, but quarterback defense at least will be
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: spread out to an extent the onesie positions where I do,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: at least on a two game slate, ownership should be
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: spread out a little more, even though running back is
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: so concentrated.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: But we got a deal receiver today.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hoop, what's your thoughts? Give us your gso, man,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: what do you got for this slate?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I think the big takeaway for sure is wide
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: receiver and what you do at at wide receiver today.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: And it's like almost a slate to me where you
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: can almost throw out the prices at wide receiver and
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: just play guys. And I think that's the only way
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: to maybe get a little bit different, like get your
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: stability at quarterback and running back and tight end. We
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: know those guys and then just I don't know if
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: there's a way way to do it. I mean obviously
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: would takes some work, but don't factor in salary at all,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: and like ten fantasy points could be a winning score
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: at wide receiver today. I mean we've seen it with
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: the Bills all season, all their guys have very low floors,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: very low floors. I mean Mahome Allen is you know,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: he has Shakira as his main guy for sure, but
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: it's all short, little dump off stuff and he's going
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: to get there via PPR. But they're mixing in all
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: those other dudes Coleman, Curtis Saniels, Matt Collins, Amari Cooper.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So there's no security there. Obviously something's going on with
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurt. So like aj Brown, very low floor, DeVonta Smith,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: very low floor. It's crazy. I mean this might be
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: like the craziest part of the entire slate that the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: most stable wide receivers on this slate are probably i'm
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: the commanders Terry McLaurin and Diami Brown. I mean, Deamy
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Brown is a legit wide receiver too right now the
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: workload and I mean he's looking to him. We saw
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: it a few weeks ago and took advantage of it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: He was on the team where I want one hundred
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars Diamy Brown on there. I mean he was
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: started going to him at the end of the season
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: last year and just at the end of the regular season,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and it's continued into the playoffs, like he is their
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: clear number two, so it's wild to think that those
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: are probably the two most stable guys. People are gonna
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: like the Chiefs guys too because of the price tag,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and I actually like the Chiefs. If you think the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Bills can push it a little bit offensively, you have
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to like these Chiefs guys at their current price tag.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: But everyone's gonna because of the prices and how hard
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the position is. But I guess for me, the main
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: grand scheme overview, for sure, is probably what you do
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: at quarterback, because I think there's some decisions there in
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: terms of ownership, and we'll get into that. It's gonna
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: be the first position, and then wide receiver like the
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: running back stuff people are in there. I think I'm
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: gonna fade sake, like, if you want to do that,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I mean to me, for me personally, just take whatever
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: money you're playing and just go buy lotto tickets or
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: flush it down the toilet. I think that's a huge, huge,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: huge mistake. You're you're playing for an injury. I think
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: if you're fiting Saque today, he did it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, we did this show last year and it
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: was I pulled the receipts last night at Discord, because
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it was the same dude, Jill came down with two
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: fifty and last year it was it was CMC in
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: this spot, priced poorly, and your exact statement was unlocking
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: them and if you fade him, you're just banking on
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: an injury. He went ninety yards on the ground, two touchdowns,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: four catches, forty two yards on the thirty DraftKings fantasy
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: points and that was your exact take. So we pulled
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the receipts in Discord last night, and you set it
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: for Saquon. I think it's the exact same thing, eighty
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: six hundreds in safe.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're playing for you're planning for an injury. You're
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: you're hoping I mean not hoping. I mean I don't
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: think anyone, even if they have a financial interest and
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: it would hope for a guy like him to get injured.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: But you're playing for him to get hurt in the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: first half because he could he could have twenty at
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: halftime potentially, So you're literally playing for a first quarter injury,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a early second quarter injury.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Let's buzz in our prop guy real quick here. We
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: got a prop guy on the show named title title.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: What what do you got for the props over there?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: For for Barkley today, let them let him know.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty six and a half rushing yards.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Is probably on the over huh yeah, probably.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Minus minus one minus one eleven a piece. Okay, all right, yeah,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: what's his rushing receiving? One forty five and a half,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: so another twenty plus there. I mean, it's just insane.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: He opened I don't know if he opened one thirty
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: five I believe is what I saw. But he was
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: the most individual championship history, which I mean rightfully. So
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Jalen hurts beat up a little bit. They'll give sake
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: on the ball thirty times today if they need to.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: So another another thing around that fade. It's like, okay,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you're let's say we're not playing for the injury and
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you think he just has a bad game today, right,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Let's what's his bad game? What's his realistic floor on
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the slate?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Let's set in the discord or twelve.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: Something will win this slate sometimes like mwel if.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: You think it's twelve. Let's say you think it's twelve
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: or thirteen, that still could be the win. Look at
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: these other dudes that could be the winning score at
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: running back. So it's very hard.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: It's a competition, competition James Cook, Austin Eckler, Kareem Hunt,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Bryan Robinson, and you're allowed to play three running backs.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So someone says, oh, I think Cook and Robinson are
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: gonna dust him. Okay, but he could still end up
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: in the third spot with an eighteen and they have
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: twenty plus. So tough for sure.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: And it's another good point. We'll get into it more
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: as the show goes on. But if you are fading,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: if you're handbuilding teams and you are fading him, make
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: sure you're leveraging that fade so it pays off. Like,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: if you're going to fade him, don't fade him on
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: a on a Josh Allen team or something like that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Fade him on a Jalen hurts to a pass catcher,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Jalen hurts to DeVonta Jalen hurts to aj Brown or
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: God or something like that. If you're fading him, build
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: the teams properly. What about Gainwell? Would you fade him?
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Would you just play Gainwell saying he gets hurt or
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: you'd rather say like he has a floor game at eleven,
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: some of these other guys outscore, you get the Hurts leverage.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I mean for me personally, yeah, I would be fine
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: doing that. Like, if I'm fading him, I'm thinking that
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm playing for an injury, right, and like it would
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it would definitely be gain while that steps in. So
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: that is a very good point. So but if you're
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: fading him for a floor game, if you're fading him
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: for a floor game, I'd say, Bake, sure you're playing
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: those those other dudes, But if you're fading him for
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: an injury, I'd be fine. You know something gainwall in there.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two things one that is Hurts or gain Well
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: or both, and the other thing is like just not
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: fading him. You're allowed to play Barkley and Hurts together,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: I think everyone automatically. So's all the best way to
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: get leverage. I got to move off Barkley and go
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: to these double stacks. Like title said, the man's on
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the sideline reading a book, Like, we don't even know
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. If that's going to work out for you,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: it could just be Hurts. Maybe his leg is okay
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and he does tush push in a couple of them
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and then you know something else. But they were moving
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: him out of the tush push late last week's game.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: They were in that shotgun set up and for them,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, we'll have to see, but it's again,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: you just are building accordingly. We're gonna go to quarterback
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: and do it. But whop. I had one quick question
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: on the grand scheme overview, because you've done a good
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: job talking about this the entire season with these Chiefs games,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm telling you can go build the lineups right
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: now and we'll get to the Mahomes thing in a second,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: because people still can't seem to grasp when never Mahomes
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: actually exists. But just to say it, these Chiefs have
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: been very happy just to keep the ball on the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: ground an ugly type game. Do you have any thoughts
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: around how the Chiefs game plan looks tonight? Based on
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: how mobile and good Josh Allen has been and then
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: just the matchup at home, everything they can sort of
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: do in their favor, it seems it would be best
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to try and run that clock and keep that game
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: low and just going with it.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, The main point is, I mean, they have
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: nothing to prove offensively. We know how good Mahomes is,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: we know how good the connection to Travis Kelsey is, Like,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: we know how good he is. They don't need to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: come out here and prove it by scoring like thirty
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: some real life points now that they if they could
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: win this game in a nasty fashion like they've won
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: basically every game all season, Like every game all season
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs have won, it's been for the most part, ugly,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: grinded out type games. If they can do that today,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent they will do that. Now, it's just
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: matter if they're able to do that. And I don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: think they're going to be able to do that today.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I think Josh Allen shows up. He's a dynamic player.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I think he pushes the pace a little bit. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: if you think the Bills can push the pace a
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: little bit, I think the Chiefs offense is in a phenomenal,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: phenomenal spot to succeed today. So for me personally, like, yes,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: if they can establish that, they will. But man, someone
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: in the chat post of Checko has not been the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: same since he's returned from injury. It's you know, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: he got Kareem Hunt. I mean it's not the same.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: We're going to grind it out with our running back
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: type situation here either. So for me, I personally don't
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be available for them today. If
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: they can do it, they will, but I just don't
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be available today.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: The clock does run a bit, they almost go Cincinnati
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Bengals esque of like the short runs and the short
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: throws over. That's where Kelsey picks it up in the playoffs.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: When you see the game clock running quickly, it's just
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's gonna come down to this. I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: love Ross's one earlier Lamar can't beat Josh. Josh can't
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: beat Mahomes, and the NFC as a conference can't beat Mahomes.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the way we've seen it, and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: there is something to be said about that with the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen stuff today. But obviously this year feels different.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: It seems different. So hopefully they can make it happen.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Push the face and we can get a little something
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: out of that game. Let's get to the quarterback.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Go ahead with just one more comment. Just imagine if
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: we get any of these chief friendly calls today, people
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: will legit, people might riot man, Like if we get
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: these today, like people might show up to the NFL
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: offices tomorrow because they are on edge about these calls.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Did you see the ruling they came out with yesterday,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like the one they got fights like basically the Mahomes
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: one where the two dudes ran into themselves. Yeah, Homes
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: slipped them and got the call. Like, that'll be on
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: patrol next Even Schefter was like, for those of you
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: that think Mahomes gets all the calls, he may get
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: less starting next year. But maybe that's what they're on
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: patrol for today, is not giving them the calls for once.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people will lose their ship today. If we get
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: any Mahomes friendly flags like, it will go down. People
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: are gonna be very fired up.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I hope. Yeah, we'll see. I'm putting the the Tambo
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: teaser on the on the line today to seven and O.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Still baby, let's go. I cannot wait.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: The tail Yeah you texted me last week? Who is
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: tailing man? He's putting the bets.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: You know, I got the receipts. I'm gonna have to
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: post the receipts when it comes through.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: You might have more on those than some people have
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: on a whole season of golf bets.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: On your can guarantee I can be I can guarantee
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that that's the truest thing you've said so far on
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I like it all right. Title, What what are we
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: thinking here? At quarterback man? You start us off? We
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you know the chats dying for these quarterback takes. Let's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: get to them.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I mean rightfully, No, it's quarterbacks very tough on the slate.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I got like I'm playing mmme mainly, I will be
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: playing all four quarterbacks. The least appealing one, just in
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: my mind right away, just assuming all ownerships equal, et cetera.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Is Jalen hurts with the injury, but I do think
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: people will be worried about that a little bit. He's
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: priced five hundred more than Mahomes. I think Mahomes will
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: be more popular. Daniel's five hundred more there, I think
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Daniels will be more popular. We're showing Josh as the
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: least owned on the slate. I'm curious to hear if
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: you guys think that stays true as well. And I
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: could totally see it at seven point five K. But
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: it does feel like if one of these guys is
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: getting you a thirty. I guess obviously all of them
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: can do it, but it feels like it would be
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Josh or Daniels the most. It's minus one twenty four
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: hurts to score, and I do believe with that week
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: that they will. I mean, it's a monster game they're
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: playing to get to the Super Bowl. I do think
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: the tush push is live in the game like this.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Two touchdowns on the ground can definitely change the slate
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: that way. I know I like Daniels a lot because
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: even in any game script Jaya Daniels can get there.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: There's six point dogs if Saquon and the Eagles jump
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: out early, and I do think the Eagles with stuff
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Brian Robinson mainly stuff like that when we get to
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: game theory wise, at running back, it's a reason to
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: play him with his ownership.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: But I think it's gonna be on Daniel's.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Shoulder a lot, and he has tons of upsides, So
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Daniel's my favorites. I'm gonna have a lot of Mahomes
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: because I do think they try and run the ball early,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: but I do think Buffalo takes it away and nakes
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Mahomes drop back a ton, and you also do have
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: a lot of which is appealing for Josh two and
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I get there a lot of weapons to play with them.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Everyone's gonna go worthy the Kelsey of the world, but
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown mixes in de Hopit's gross, but that's like
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: a showdown play right there. Noah great at tight end.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: Juju's getting some again. All of that is gross, But
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: I guess I want you guys to talk about. Jalen
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Hurts is my least favorite. I do know that the
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: concentrated target shair Tree like it's Savante Smith, it's Goddard,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: it's aj Brown. You can playing with Saquan, but I don't.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I love overstacking the Eagles by any means. Josh Allen's
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: expensive and it's really hard to get who with him right,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Matt Collins, Curtis, Samuel Amari Cooper. Obviously, Shakier's the easy one.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Kinkaid not all of that makes me a more interest
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: in them though, on a really big one hundred and
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: forty thousand people contest, because and you can play him
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: just with one guy. If Josh runs in two three touchdowns,
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: et cetera. So he is the seven point five k
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I know Daniel's my favorite, and then I'm thinking mahomes
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Alan hurts. But if Josh Allen is the lowest owned
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: quarterback on a two game slate man with his rushing upside,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: and I mean, he's gonna have to be superman, I
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: think to win this game, like Speg's is, I'm worried
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: about the Chiefs and Speg's defense very very much respected.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I do think the Chiefs try and take the air
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: out of the ball. But he's the lowest owned quarterback
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: and his pass catchers are really pretty low owned as
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: well on this late So I'm throwing it back to you, Tamba.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Do you think he's the lowest own And if so,
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I'm definitely gonna bump more Josh all He might be
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: my second favorite.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Then we're getting good at this. It's almost like we've
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: done it all season. We're doing perfect. Your segue was
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: right where I was going and it came at the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: perfect time. So I love what you said there. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: do think his ownership does come up. I think one
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of the challenges on the trickies and it does correlate
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: with everything you just said, and it's the reason you're
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: seeing him a little lower than you would expect is
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: people don't know who to put him with, or they
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna make a mistake just by trying
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to figure it out. Because as many guys, as we
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: always mentioned for Mahomes and I've talked about this all
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: season with Josh Allen, they can bring seven eight pass
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: catchers into the mix. I think that's where it gets
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: fun though, for the large field stuff, and that's where
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the money gets left on the table. Yes, it's easy
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: to play Kinkaid. We'll get to tight end later, but
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you could just play knocks and leave a thousand bucks
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: in the same spot. You could try key on Coleman.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you this guy is always open because Alan scrambles.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: The route is done, he's on. He could be on
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: a third route if he wanted to be, but he's
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: just standing there. I know our boy, Hebrew China Rio.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: The man said he's getting in on some Cooper action.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: The books don't even let like I look today, you
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: can't even get a hundred yard like all. But at
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: least on my book on a Cooper, there's like no
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: way he can even get out sixty yards on the book.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So Cooper is interesting, but it's it's really hard for
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: people to make a stack and love it. And I
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: think that's where even like you said, you're not as
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: high on the hurt stuff, But I think people want
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that a potential leverage on Saquon or b. They're fine
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: with playing him with Saquon, and they feel good about
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: who the other options are, Like it's aj Brown, it's Smith,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: it's Goddar. Don't have to figure the rest out. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that's kind of how the Mahomes stuff sets up. But
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I think he's trickier than you know as well. One
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: thing I want to say to Hoop, I'll kick it
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: to you. But Mahomes the Chiefs elevated Justin Ross. We've
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: been waiting for this guy forever. I don't know why
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and what that means. Maybe nothing. They have so many
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: other dudes that they could use, but Justin Ross getting elevated,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and all the diehards love this guy. They're all getting excited.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I couldn't find a prop on him either, but thought
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: that was interesting. What's your thoughts at the quarterback position? Who?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I think that is? Probably they anticipate they might have
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: to throw the ball a little bit more today. That
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: would be my my guess as to why they elevated him.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to add on to the Allen conversation
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: because I think it's by far the most important talking part,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: talking piece of the quarterback conversation. And I'm going to
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: add on to what you guys said because I do
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: agree with you. Like people are going to look at
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Alan and say, Okay, you know who do I want
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: to pair him with? It's you know, difficult. I do
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: think that plays into it a little bit in terms
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: of his ownership being so low, But I think the
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: bigger reason why we're seeing lower ownership, and I feel
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: very confident in this. You go to running back, people
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: want to play Saquon Barkley and the price is low.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, the price is very low, but
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: he's the most expensive running back at eighty six hundred
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: dollars right Like he's up there. You do have to
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: sacrifice a little bit if you're playing him, and I
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: think the sacrifice is taking place at quarterback, which we're
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: going to talk about here in a second. You go
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: to tight end. Who's the main tight end that everyone
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: wants to play, Well, it's Travis Kelcey because he's you know,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: playoff Travis, He's going off and he is the most expensive.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: So a lot of teams are starting with Saquon Barkley
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: and Travis Kelcey, and again they're both under priced. But
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you do have to sacrifice a little bit. And people
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: don't really care who they're playing at wide receivers, so
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: the sacrifice is taking place at quarterback, and I think
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: that's a massive, massive mistake. I hope, I hope these
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: numbers remain true and everyone kind of has it. Upper
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: teams are low twenties on Josh Allen, very low twenties.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: I think it does hold true. If you run an
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: optimizer dry like you just did, we're getting a very
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: low number, a very low percentage on Josh Allen at quarterbacks.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: So to me, that's the most important part of this position,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: what you do with Josh Allen, and I will be
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: way overweight whatever that number is. I just think if
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: there's anyone that can just absolutely break this slate, it's him.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: They know the only way to have a chance at
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: this game is to keep the ball in his hands
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and let him do his thing today. So Josh Allen
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: at maybe the lowest down, the lowest owned quarterback I
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: think is criminal on the slate, and I want as
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: much as I can get for sure on the other
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: stiles to stick with that game. Mahomes at six K, again,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: it's a very good price take. He's the cheapest quarterback.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: The nice thing about him is we saw it a
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: little bit last week and we see with all these
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: quarterback you talked about it where they're just willing to
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: even the running quarterbacks are willing to run a little
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: bit more. And the one thing that makes me really
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: like Mahomes today seven attempts last week, seven rush attempts
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: for Mahomes and that is much higher than he had
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: been running all regular seasons. So really like Mahomes. Jaden
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Daniels I think is the real deal. I mean title
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: kind of touched on a little bit. I mean, I
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: think the dude is phenomenal. It's tough matchup, but I
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: think he can definitely get the job done. Then the
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: big conversation, I think that the number one most important
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: thing a quarterback is what you do with Josh Allen.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: The second most important thing is what you do with
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. And I think you have to make a
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: stand one way or the other, and I'm personally considering
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: just fading him. I love doing this on these smaller slates,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: just fading one of the quarterbacks. Even if he is
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: let's say he ends up being the lowest down, that
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: number is still going to be around twenty percent. So
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: if I don't think it's Jalen Hurts and I just
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: fade him, I'm beating twenty percent of lineups right right
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: out of the gate. So he's a guy I'm considering
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: fading today or playing at a very low percentage. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: think there are real injury concerns. They said he's wearing
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: a knee brace today, Like I don't think you wear
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: a knee brace unless you're somewhat injured or there's some
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: concern for an injury. The tush push stuff does scare
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: me a little bit. You play him because you want
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: them essentially to stop, get stopped inside the two, and
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: then tush push for a touchdown, which I think could
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: still happen even if he is a little dinged up.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: I think they could still use him, But I do
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: think there is a chance that they don't and they
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: go to Saquon and U Saquon a little bit more
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: so Jalen Hurts is the one, and he's looked really
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: bad passing. I mean the passing numbers the last few
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: weeks have been absolutely atrocious. I mean he was he
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: threw for one hundred and twenty eight yards last week
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Green Bay threw for one hundred and thirty one yards.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: It's been very, very bad. AJ Brown's all pissed off, obviously,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: reading books on the sideline and shit. So considering fading
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: him or taking an underweight stance if I need to.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: If I build my teams and it still wants some
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Hurts to make everything else work, I'd be fine doing it.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: But I would also be fine potentially fading him. But
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I really like the Josh Allen stuff today, and I hope,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I really hope that number remains dree and I have
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: a feeling it is. I have a feeling it is
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: going to remain too low in my eyes. Like to me,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen should clearly be the highest ozone quarterback on
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the slate, not in conversation, be the lowest stone. So
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I'll be taking a big stance on Josh Allen today.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So I agree, And that part, I guess, you know,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: in on some out on the other the one thing
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I'll say about that is that's what makes it really
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: tough for me to get to Jade Daniels. I literally
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: been talking about his talent this whole show, how much
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I like them. More on that later, but just to
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: say it, when he's seven k and Allen seventy five hundred,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I got a way easier time getting to Josh Allen
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: in that spot and just trying to figure it out.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I know there's some you know, everyone's posting the chat,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: some different ways to stack him. That's the fun part
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: about Josh Allen. There's so many ways to get different
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Knox versus Kinkaid and leave money him with Knox Cook
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and the defense. I really do like the quarterbacks with
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: their running backs today. I think that's part of it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Hoop with the other thing about the Josh Allen lower
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: potential ownership is because after Saquon, nobody likes to pick
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: between Eckler or Robinson. Nobody wants to play Hunt or Pacheco.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I'm saying nobody. We know they'll get some ownership, but
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: James Cook is getting a ton of ownership. Also, what
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: are his props title? We're going to We're going to
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: running backs soon. Anyway, But what are the James Cook
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: props right now?
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we have James Cook at fifty six and a half,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen fifty and a half, Jade and Daniels fifty
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: three and a half to compare.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that's part of it too, which
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: is you may get your wish hoop like, I think
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: he'll come up from where we have him, but I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: think he'll still stay in check and the other guys
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: will get more. I can't I like him more than
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels for DFS today, So that's where I'm at.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: The hurt stuff for me is easy. I think there's
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: so many ways you can do it with hurts. I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: love like a Hurtz Barkley Goddard and stop and stop
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out if everyone's gonna does that, is
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: gonna want to go to AJ Brown or Smith. I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like playing Smith instead of AJ Brown and leaving the money.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I like stacking up that game a little bit because
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you guys mentioned it earlier. I'm just more on the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: hurt side. But I like the idea of Brown and
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: McLaurin and those guys, So I think there is a
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: potential that you can flip the build a little bit
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: on the whole today, where everybody assumes Barkley and Philly
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: d with as many of the Buffalo and Kansas City
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: guys they can get, why not play a bunch of
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Philly Washington guys. They've got some injuries on the O lines,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the D lines, things like that. Maybe it goes back
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and forth, and what if Hurts is in shotgun more
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: and these are checkdowns to Barkley because he got to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: get out quick, or these are checkdowns to Goddard across
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the field. There's a ton of different ways that that
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: game could be. The one that gets exciting, goes back
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and forth, and the second game everyone's just stuck because
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: that's all they have left. Ain't no late swap. They
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: can move around within that game. There is late swap
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: within the game, but not for the slates. You're stuck
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: on that game. And if the first game already went off,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: there is some clear cut pieces, it's a little bit more,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you know, if you think of the example, it's definitely
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: more clear cut on where those teams go versus trying
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: to figure out which of the twenty possible receivers Alan
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: and Mahomes combined are going to be throwing too, so
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: makes good for dfs. But that's my takes at the quarterback.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: The last one is the never Mahomes thing. People get
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: that stuck in their head. Never Mahomes is on classic slates.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: If you are playing short slates or showdown, that's oftentimes
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: where he comes through because a lot of his guys
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: doing their job. Like if Kelsey gets two touchdowns today,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be very good for Mahomes. Like Hoop said,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: he runs a little bit more things like that, he's
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: six k like that's that's really what it comes down to.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: So you know, Holmes is fine on this light. Let's
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: go to running back. We already had the Barkley conversation. Hoop,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I'll stick with you here. Barkley, you talked a little
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: bit about Cook, but there's some ty Johnson takes. There's
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: some gain well if you want to leverage Barkley. And
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: then I think the Washington stuff is pretty interesting also
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: between Robinson Junior and Eckler with their price being just
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: three hundred bucks apart, and if they're down in that game,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: like many think, it could mean some Eckler. What's your
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: thoughts at running back?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have Saquon obviously underpriced, and he's gonna
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: be massively massively owned, and like, I don't know. To me,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: it's either I don't know if you're playing them, I
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: think you just might as well just play them on
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: all your teams, Like, I don't know. That's kind of
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: my take on it. Like I just don't see why
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you invest around with it and say, ah, he's gonna
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: be seventy percent on, so I'm gonna play him on
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: forty percent of my lineups or so I just either
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: you're in or you're not, like and like, just don't
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: be kind of in, be all the way in. I
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: guess it's my take with him. After that, though, it's
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: pretty wide open. I think a lot of people are
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: gonna feel comfortable just going to Eckler and saving some
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: money at at fifty three hundred. You know, obviously if
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: they're trailing, he has the path for a bigger workload.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: You know, four catches last week, six carries, so ten touches.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: A lot of people are just going to go to him.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I think James Cook has a chance to go a
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: little overlooked. I think he has a chance to come
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: in lower owned than everyone's showing just because I think
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are just going to feel comfortable
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: with double tight end teams, which is going to lower
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: the overall ownership at running back. People again, like I said,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: are going to want to save a little bit after
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Barkley and just go down to a guy like like Eckler.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: So I think James Cook is kind of it's an
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable price, really, sixty nine hundred. I mean he's only
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: seventeen hundred cheaper than Saquon Barkley. Like that's an absolute
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: joke and people are going to see that. So I
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: don't know, I think he has a chance to get
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: squeezed a little bit, so I'm definitely still interested in him.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's really, after Barkley, the only guy that
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: has a chance for like a big time workload on
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: the slate like Yues mixed in some of the other
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: guys in Buffalo, but he's the only other guy that
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: really has probably twenty touch upside today, So I think
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: he's interesting after that. I don't know, it's just you know,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: dart throws. I guess my next favorite might be Kareem Hunt,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: but man, I don't know, I don't I don't really
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: like Brian Robinson at all today. It's a really tough
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: matchup for him. I do think Washington's probably playing from behind,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: so I do think it's probably more Eckler and then
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the Pacheco stuff. Man, he has not looked good like
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: at all since returning from injury. I mean I remember
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the guy early on in the year in some key spots,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: like he gets the ball and it's like beast mode,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: like you're not stopping me, I'm just running through your ass.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I've not seen that from him at all since returning
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: from injury. And obviously the Chiefs happen either because he's
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: now splitting time with Kareem Hunt, the cheaper dudes like
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Ty Johnson, pe Ryan Gainwell, Ray Davis type plays. Yeah,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I mean gonna be low owned for sure. I mean
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Ty Johnson, I think it's a little bit ownership because
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: he had that touchdo I think it was last week?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: So I don't know's it's a tough position though, that's
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the main thing. It's a very very tough position. But
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: James Cook to me stands out as a guy that
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: probably does get squeezed here a little bit.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think again, I like playing James Cook, even
• 44:15
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• 44:18
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• 44:20
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• 44:21
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• 44:23
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• 44:25
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• 44:27
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• 44:29
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• 44:32
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• 44:34
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• 44:36
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• 44:37
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• 44:57
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• 44:58
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• 45:00
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• 45:03
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• 45:34
  Speaker 1: who broke it down pretty well? But maybe some of
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: these outliers specifically the Robinson versus Eckler, the Checko versus Hunt,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: and any thoughts on Ty Johnson and Ray Davis.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: So I want to say quick on the Saquon stuff.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: If I am going to be playing one hundred percent
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: of them too. If I wasn't, I would be building
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: in sets like you talk about Tambo like I'd be
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: fine absolutely leaving zero dollars with the non Saquon team.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I would be more inclined to play Hurts.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I'd be more inclined to play game well, I would
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: definitely not play game well with the Saquon. But again,
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: like the teams I'm building with Saquon, I'm treating.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: As he's gonna small field stuff.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: You might be ninety plus percent O like a ridiculous
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: amount of ownership, pretty much a free square for many.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: So then I have to get different in other spots.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: If you're fading him, you can build a lot chalk
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: your team there.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be embracing just ownership wise.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: If you're looking at the stone right now, Commanders, we
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: have one running back projective for thirty five percent in Eckler,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Saquon eighty six, James Cook forty three. Chief situations, both
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: of them below twenty five percent. Is it fun?
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: No.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: I think Kareem Hunt is dust at this point. Pacheco
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: might be a little dust at this point. Well, they're
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: very low owned for very fair price tags on the team.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: That has implied for a lot of points, I'm gonna
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: be playing a lot of Cream or a lot relative
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: to the field. I'm gonna be overweighted on Cream, Hunt
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: and Pachecko. I'm gonna group them away from each other.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: Right now, the field is thinking it's cream Hunt because
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: that is what it has been recent I'll have more
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Kareem Hunts, but I wouldn't be surprised if he comes
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: in like almost double the ownership. The check is still
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: going to be on the field. I think thirty five
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: percent of snaps ish. If he falls in the box once,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: If he falls up in the box twice, it feels great.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: It leverages off at Kelsey chalk, meaning he's not at
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: least getting in the box when they do. Mahomes was
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: gonna be very popular. So in non Mahomes teams, I
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: will definitely be overweight chief stuff. And that's what stands
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: out most because I mean James Cook has a real
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: price tag. I'm more inclined. I want to say this too.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: I might have zero three running back builds on draft kicks.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Fandal is always different. I hate three running backs today.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I think Eckler's over owned. He makes a lot of
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: sense when they're in trailing gain scripts. Brian Robinson looks
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: good for leverage that way, like six point dogs. When
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: they play from the lead. It is more Brian Robinson.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: But man, that rushing prop thirty six and a half yards.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: He has somewhat of a real price tag. Eagles is
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: not a tough easy team to run on. Again, it's
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: all the like the I know ball stuff. Looking at
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: it game theory wise, he's gonna be sub twenty percent
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: as a starting running back. So I don't even know
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: if even with all of that being said, I still
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: think I like Eckler just because of how I expect
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: the game to go and the Eagles to take away
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: the run. But regardless, I'll be underweight to Washington backfield,
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: underweight cook, I'm locking Saquon, I'll be overweight the chief stuff.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, man, I don't think I'm gonna
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: be playing the Ty Johnson's, the Ray Davis that of
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: the world.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Not that they're like they're gonna get in and be fine,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: but you always talk about it, Tambeau.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: I guess more so it's on classics slates like the
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Shawn Tucker's of the world point two percent the scantlings,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: and they're still not on the winner. You still have
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: to have the perfect combo when you do play those guys.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: But I mean they're gonna be on the field. I
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: prefer Ty Johnson for sure in a Ray Davis more
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: past catching upside explosiveness there.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still don't love it.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna be playing Hunted Pacheco more who
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: I know will be on the field, and again that
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: field's gross.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: But running back is I do not like three running
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: back bills on draft kicks.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was just gonna say that too. That's
• 49:04
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• 49:06
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• 49:07
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• 49:09
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• 49:12
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• 49:14
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• 49:16
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• 49:18
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  Speaker 1: I got it. This is the first one. I got.
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  Speaker 1: half for Brian Robinson over that's happening. Their job is
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  Speaker 1: just too low. I get it. The defense on paper
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• 51:46
  Speaker 1: any of them and just run into a wall on
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• 51:57
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• 52:55
  Speaker 1: receiver title. I'm gonna kick it back to you worthies
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: up there getting a ton of owners. Right, he fits
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: at fifty five. But you mentioned like Hollywood Brown hurt
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: everybody last week you got you know, uh d Hop
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: who you mentioned, and then some other guys you can
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: go to as well. So wide receiver thoughts from you.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I always like going team by team and makes
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: it really easy. Philly side couldn't be more easy.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: A J.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Brown Davonte Smith. Yeah, I mean I'm gonna be playing
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: some hurts. People will be a little worried, like people
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: will want more receivers and with almost all skill positions
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: outside of.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Saquon in that second game. So while I don't think
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: a J.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Brown or Smith will be low owned by any means
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: like Kelsey's gonna be higher own, Xavier Worthy's gonna be
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: higher own. Thinks Gary Terry maybe comes in a little
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: higher owned. I'm gonna I'm gonna be playing some A J.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Brown Deavante Smith. It's only those two though. I'll circle
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: back at when I touch on all three of like
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: team by team, who's in the player pool, then circle
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: back with like my favorites and underweight, et cetera. Washington Side, Terry,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Damy Brown, Zakias, the wide receiver four has been Jamison.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: The Kias got banged up a little last game. Again,
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: it's one fifty stuff. If you're playing Daniels, fine, like
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: you can build a lot chalk your teams throwing a
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: Jameson Crowder if he does anything, that's how you solo ship,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: but I won't have too much of it myself.
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: So the key is probably our ownership.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Sub ten percent does stand out personally everyone everyone wanted
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: to play in Game one against Tampa. Obviously Demi Brown
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: has out snapped him. He definitely has been wide receiver two,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: especially if you think the trail, and though they'll play
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: plenty of three receiver sets, I will embrace Zikias's ownership
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: and price tag.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: And this is where it gets tough.
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: The Buffalo Casey side Casey, I guess is a little
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: easier because when we get to tight end, Noah Gray's
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: most definitely involved as well. So the three receivers, I
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: think I'm gonna do worthy for sure, Hollywood Brown by
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: far the two that benefit the most. Then Juju and
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: de Hop kind of split snaps or they have I
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: think I'm just gonna go all that, Oh Jude, if
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: I split the ownership, I think I'm just gonna go
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: d Hop and man, it is really just guesswork at
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, Like there's no reason for
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: me to want to play de Hop.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: The snaps have been awful.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: When me get the.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Exact numbers from you thirty one or sixteen snaps last week,
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Juju had twenty one. The thing at the end of
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: the day, I just think Juju's pretty cheeks and d
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: hop maybe can show up for one play. I still
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: think he's got some left in the tank. The problem
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: is it doesn't matter what I think. It matters what
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs think, and they're gonna run a lot of
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: too tight on sets with Noah Gray, Kelsey Worthy and
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown. So I don't love the secondary pieces for
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs, but when I'm playing mahomes d Hob will
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: be one way to get different. If you want to
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: do Juju two. Think it's fine. It's not my favorites.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: I do love Worthy, though, Like if the Chiefs want
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: to win this game, they're gonna have to get Worthy
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: of the ball in a lot of ways.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: He's gonna have ownership.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: But I'm fine going from any of Brown, Terry McLaurin, etc.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: James Cook and the Flax drop that to Worthy and
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: leave its last side with the Bill. And I left
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: it last because yeah, I mean outside of Shakir, they're
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: just rotating everything in this in this offense. So we
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: had forty or not even a Shakier didn't even out
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: snap as much. I thought sixty seven percent Shakir sixty
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: six Coleman fifty two percent, Matt Collins thirty four percent
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: of Marii Cooper thirty one percent, Curtis Samuel and that
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: circles all the way back to the Josh Allen stuff.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: There's a billion ways to play him. With his rushing upside,
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: his receivers will be very low owned. I think I'm
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: gonna play all of them just because I am playing
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: a good amount of Josh Allen, and a lot of
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: them will be like three percent owned or less. I
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: think to with the field, Shakiir is going to be
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: very popular. I think he might be one of my
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: least relative to the field, like I prefer Worthy, prefer
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: DeVante Smith, I prefer Brown. I just think they have
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: more like one play fifty yard touchdown upside to break
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: a slate where a lot of Shakiirs are so short.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna ride with you with Keon Coleman
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: as the second fam though he's always open. You've been
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: telling him a little bit. Matt Collins is gonna be
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: my third favorites. He's on the field the most out
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: of all of them, he is more of a blocker.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: But they just missed him last week too down the sideline,
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Like he's a big body that can fall in the
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: box at some point if Josh Allen needs to throw
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: it up.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go.
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: Coleman and then Mac I don't know, I'll ride Hebert
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: Cheat and Amari Cooper. I still think he's got some
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: legs with them as well. But all of this is
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: really gross. Like I think Josh Allen's gonna use his
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: legs a good amount some aid stuff to Shakir and
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: again Kincaid.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: And Dawson Knox.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: They're gonna run two tight end sets plenty themselves, which
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: is why all these guys rotating in. It's really tough.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: But embrace the variants, embrace the ownership. If any of
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: them do get there, there's a lot less chance that
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: there's gonna be a chop at the end of the day.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: So to round out the whole wide receiver room, I
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: think I'm gonna be more under Terry and get into
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Demi Brown and the chiass of the world. I do
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: like aj Brown, DeVante Smith, good bits. I like Worthy
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: in Hollywood a ton for their price, like, I wouldn't
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: be surprised if they leave the receiving room in points
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: on the slate at less owner or at less price
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: than all these other guys, and then I'm gonna embrace
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: some of this buffalo stuff at the end of the day.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: So I'm curious I hear your takes though. Receiving room,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: obviously we talked about from the beginning.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: By far, the heart's one of those good segues though,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: because he said i'mnna embrace the buffalos, I was just
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: about to say. The nice part about the second game
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: is that's where you again, someone said it earlier, and
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: it's kind of true, And there is a potential that
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: this slate, the millimaker, like the twenty five dollars, just
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: gets chopped one hundred and fifty ways. It's definitely possible
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: with the pricing. If you just go look, if everybody
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: builds the same lineup, which you all have some variation
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: of it, if you're looking at snap counts and who's
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: out there and what fits and what correlates, it makes
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: sense you'll land on a pretty similar lineup. And if
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: that happens, big time chop. But the nice part about
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the second game is where you can get tricky with it,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: and nobody really knows. Like everyone's gonna have their own
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: take on why Keon Coleman's a horrible mention. Everyone's gonna
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: say Cooper's dust and is washed up until he's not.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Like it always is gonna be that way. Nobody knows.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: But what we do know is a lot of people
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: are gonna have similar builds and this is the game
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: where you can get different with it. And realistically, when
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who scrambles as much as he does, he
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: can just all of a sudden see a guy and
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: that's the guy that gets you talked about Mac Hollins
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: falling in the box could be Cooper. They did hit
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: They tried to hit Cooper on a big one last
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: week too. I think it was a you know, down
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: the right sideline and I think he dropped it or
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: he didn't actually wasn't a catch or something. But yeah,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: it's like it wasn't that they even wanted him. It's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: whoever's open when the time Josh Allen gets done scrambling
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: all around, Soop, I'll kick it. Do you man anything
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: extra to add here at wide receiver?
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, I think I do like that last point
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: though with like like Josh Allen, like once he gets
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: out of the pocket, it could be anyone that that's
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: on the field. And man, the one that stands I
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: guess I'll start here because the one that stands out
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: to me, he's always on the field. And you guys
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: said he just missed him last week was Mac Hollins. Man,
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: he's always out there, thirty three hundred. He's gonna be
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: like like low owned. Like if you're playing a lot
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: of Josh Allen, you got to embrace some of these guys.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: And you know, MATC Collins, you guys talk about Keon Coleman,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I think is a solid option, Samuel Amari Cooper, And
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: then just all ties back to the initial conversation where
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: one play at wide receiver today could be enough to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: be on optimal ten, eleven, twelve fantasy points. That could
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: definitely be enough today. And that's the place that we're
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: talking about. The Matt Collins miss that's a ten that's
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: a ten fantasy point play. That Mary Cooper miss or
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: not necessarily a miss, but like non connection, that's a ten,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: ten point ten fantasy point play. So if you're going
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: overweight on on Josh Allen, I think you need to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: embrace all these guys, and I'm going to be overweight
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: on Josh Allen, so I will be embracing them. But
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I do like Shakira as well. Man like there is
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: in terms of just like PPR on the slate, a
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: guy that you know is going to be targeted and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: he converts makes the most of all his targets. Like
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Shakir Man, I really really like him. If he does
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: get a touchdown, you can probably say this about anyone,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: so it's nothing special. But if he does score a touchdown,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: find it hard to believe that he's not on the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: optimal And again you could say that probably about every
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: wide receiver today, so it's probably pretty irrelevant to say that.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: But he can also, I think, be on optimal without
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: finding a touchdown, where if he goes like six ver seventy,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: which I think is definitely realistic if we see some scoring.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: So I like all these Buffalo guys on the k
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: C side. I agree with title I'm worthy something just
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's a worthy day. I think the game
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: sets up on him. Again, if you think Buffalo can
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: score today, which I do. They design plays all over
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: the field for Worthy, like getting him short passes, they'll
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: take deep shots with them, they'll get him in the
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: end around stuff like he has so many ways to
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: be there today. And I get the ownerships following, but
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: the ownership's following any relevant wide receiver today because it's tough,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: like Terry McLaurin, Davonta Smith, shakir Aj Brown, they're all
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: going to have probably forty percent and above. So you
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: just got to pick your guys and roll with him.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: So it's really hard to factor in ownership today at
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: this position because all the names on the plate are
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: going to get some ownership because well it's only two
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: games and the position's pretty difficult. So I do like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: the worthy stuff. Hollywood Brown. Yeah, like he's gonna show
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: up in a lot of lineups. If you say, I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: don't know if do you have that up there?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm guessing where's he at? So he's not
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: shown up much for us then, huh oh y, Yeah,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I was looking for I was looking for Hollywood, not Marquis. Yeah,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: he's going to show up on a lot just because
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: of the price tag. Something title touched on this, and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: I agree, like something just tells me like it could
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: be DeAndre Hopkins day, And what does it take to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: be a DeAndre Hopkins day? Probably not much. Four for
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: fifty in a touchdown, like that's gonna be that's gonna
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: be good enough today. I definitely think that's in the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: realm of possibilities. I just think this Chiefs offense today
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: has a chance to look different then it's looked all
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: season long. Like all season long, I think this offense
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: could look much much different. And worthy's gonna get ownership. Hollywood, Brown,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Kelsey there all gonna get ownership. I just think it's right, man.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: I just think it's right. I think the Chiefs are
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: gonna have to do things differently today than they've done
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: all season along. So for me, someone like DeAndre Hopkins
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: definitely comes in. He's done nothing. I mean, he's done nothing,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: but I just think he comes into the conversation a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: little bit more more today. So obviously being higher on
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: this game with the pass catchers means I'm probably gonna
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: be a little lighter in that first game, and I'm
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: fine with that. Like AJ Brown, despite doing nothing at
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: all recently, is going to get ownership. Deonta DeVonta Smith,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: same thing. He's going to get ownership today. Can't play
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: everyone like I'll be probably underweight on both those guys,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: and that's probably gonna be my my stand on the slate.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: I guess at this position, I'll be lighter on those guys.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Hope it's not the hurts to AJ Brown, to DeVonta Smith,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: and you know, hope that it's just all Saquon for
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: the Eagles. That's kind of going to be my play,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: and obviously that's how it correlates to wider I'm gonna
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: play them A J. Brown and Devanta Smith, but it's
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: not going to be anywhere near what the field's playing
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: them at Terry McLaurin, probably right around the field. And
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: then I just I got to keep riding my guy,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Diami Brown. I think we've been ahead of the curve
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: on Diami Brown. I'd say, I mean we're playing him
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: at the end of the regular season and the results
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: have been good. I mean, the targets are there. I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: mean they're just going he's their number two right now.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: And then Zakias is a little dinged up. You look
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: at Brown five four, five, four, five eight targets like
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: they're they're they're looking to him and and he's developed
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: being a good connection with with with Jayden Daniels. So
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: I really like Brown today. So that's kind of where
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: I'm at. But I guess, you know, the one thing
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely be much higher on the second game. The
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: field probably is too, But where I take my stands
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: is gonna be with like aj Aj Brown and probably
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: DeVonta Smith being underweight on those guys.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of what I'm gonna be doing, so
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: just at a couple of points because you guys covered
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: it well. But is like, you know, like I said,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: if you get AJ Brown lineup, turn it on, turn
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: them off and plug in Smith, get a Terry McLaurin
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: line up, leave all the money right down to Brown
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: for forty four hundred. Don't care, Like the salary really
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: means nothing to me in that spot.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: And that's the main point just I wanted to touch
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: on to. I think it's very good, good important, a
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: good talking point that we kind of touched on but
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: didn't really elaborate on. Just shut off in your head
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: the prices at wide receiver, right, I think that's like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: the main thing, like just don't even look at the prices,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the way you can get unique
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: or less duped at the position. Just don't even think
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: price tag at wide receiver. Just play the guys, don't
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: look at what you have left, and just roll with it,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: because really all these guys have a very very low floor.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, they all could just replay like you use
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: the McLaurin dam may Brown. McLaurin could get five and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: daw may Brown get fifteen. The salary just doesn't matter
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: at that point. So I just wanted to kind of
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: reiterate that point that we talked about. I think it's important.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and two others stood out for the same type
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: of thing, and you could take them down from their
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: level at wide receiver or even compare it. I think
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the most interesting one to me is we're about to
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: get to tight end and King Kid is gonna come
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: up after Kelsey. Everyone you play double tight end in
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: that game, even you're gonna see it a lot. Well,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Keon Coleman is one hundred dollars. I think he's one
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: hundred and two hundred dollars more than what is King
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: K Thirty six hundred, yeah, thirty six, so thirty seven
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: hundred for Keon Coleman thirty five hundred for Curtis Samuel.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I think both those plays are awesome because one of
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: them is easily a spot where they could come through
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: and get a different roster from there. Or if you're
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: landing in the flex in that final game and Kelsey's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: more expensive, so you've got Kelsey in the tight end now,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: and instead of King Kaid in the flex, you've got
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: you'll flip around so you have one of those wide
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: receivers in the flex. I'm fine with that. And then
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder was another guy that I saw pop up
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: earlier that got mentioned. We don't have like any of
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: him showing up here, but I could definitely see them
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: taking some short passes and stuff going over to that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: way as well. So not much else to add at
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: this position. I think it's gonna be like what you
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: guys said, and then just moving it around from there
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: within your stacks, being willing to leave money. But love
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: those points you guys brought up. Let's get the tight
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: end here, hoop and I'll let you take it. We
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: know about Kelsey, but zach Ertz Kinkaid and then I
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people are starting to like the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Dawson Knox play in behind kin Kaid because he's out
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: there as well.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Knox can be, you know, tossed in
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: that same category as the Buffalo wide receivers, the Ken Coleman's,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Matt Collins, Curtis, Samuel Muri, Cooper's where man, anyone on
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: the field with Josh Allen has a chance to catch
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: touchdown today, and one touchdown it is probably all it
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: takes at these positions wide receiver and and tight end.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: He's twenty six hundred makes a lot worse and Dalton
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Kik is gonna be pretty popular because the price, like
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Dalton k k is not gonna be popular because of
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: the output money's done recently. It's because he's thirty six
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: hundred and it's kind of like, oh man, I haven't
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: seen that price that low in a while. So good
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: with Knox, obviously, I'm fine with Kinkaid. One thing I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: personally found when when building teams, kink was shown up
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: at a very high rate because of the savings. So
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: you know, that's one thing to definitely keep keep an
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: eye on. We're getting what are we getting? Twenty seven percent?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: So when I built was even higher, probably because playing
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: more Josh Allen and needed the savings. But I like Goddard,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: so like I obviously I'm gonna be a little lighter
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: on the passing stuff for the Eagles. So one way
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: to offset the aj Brown and Vont Dismiss stuff would
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: be with a guy like Dallas Goddard. So I do
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: like Goddard quite a bit. You know, Ertz has definitely
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: emerged as another solid target for jayd and Daniels. I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: think he's fine, and then Noah Gray as well, and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: then Kelsey obviously, I mean, Kelsey's gonna be the highest
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: zone and it's playoff Travis Kelsey. I mean, it's where
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Mahomes is looking. And you know, he's the one guy
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: that actually benefits from an inefficient running game, Like they
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: use him as those little passes, you know, quick outs,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: and then he just moves up and he seems like
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: he gets always at least like five or six yards
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: on those plays, assuming it's not like blowing up or anything.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: So Kelsey's a very strong play So it's a strong position.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: But the one thing you can definitely say for sure
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: is if you just go in there and build teams,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get a lot of double tight end. You're
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: gonna get a ton of double tight end because of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: the price tags. But again, it seems like all these short,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: smaller slates, tight ends been the strongest overall position, and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: I'd say that's definitely the case again today. I mean,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: you have four solid tight ends, I guess not solid,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: be a four very playable tight ends. And then two
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: of these backup guys are even playable as well, and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Noah Gray and Dawson Knox. So you're gonna get a
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: lot of double tight end, and it's really hard to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: get away from it, to be honest with you, I
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: mean it's gonna be very hard. So like one way
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: to potentially get like a little bit different if you're
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: playing like a Kelsey Kincaid team, you know, still play Kelsey,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: but maybe pivot that Kincaid to like Keon Coleman or
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: something like to get a little bit different or one
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: of the other Buffalo pass So if you got, like
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: I said, the Kelsey and Kincaid teams, you can really
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: get different within those teams, and you know late swap
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: opportunities as well. So just one thing to look at there.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tit, I'll let you take it over. Definitely more
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: options at tight end to talk about, and we got
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: it summed up pretty good on the screen. I think
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: with these six it's some form of these. Any different
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: thoughts on how you're using them or ways that you
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: might go about handling the tight end position? No.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: Two tight ends, I think is definitely strong because like
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: you can drop Terry McLaurin down to zach Ertz. Why
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: can't that work? It could be a difference between a
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: million bucks and fifty thousand. Yeah, I would definitely take
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: fifty thousand, but I'd prefer the million. You can sustain
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: a losing streak a lot longer that way. And why
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: can't zach Ertz outscore Terry if it wasn't for Terry's
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: screen pass last week? Again, I didn't watch the game
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: too much, but I was following the box score if
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: he wasn't really doing anything till he took that to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: the house, So little things like that when he's on
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: the field of ton. Both Noah Gray and Dawson Knox
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: played over fifty percent of snaps last week. Dawson Knots
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: is actually out snapped Kincaid the past two weeks. I mean,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: you can easily play Dawson Knox. I'll definitely be doing it.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: I'll be playing more. More of my Knox teams will
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: have Josh Allen because when Knox does get there, I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: expect it most likely to be a touchdown, and that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: means Josh is throwing one, which helps him. But I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: like Noah Gray a lot too. Noah Gray actually at
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: ownership might be one of my favorites. I do agree
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: with Hoop like I do think the Chiefs try and
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: run the football and if they don't have success, Noah
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: Gray is going to be a really solid option from
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: they don't feel comfortable with Juju. They don't feel that
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: comfortable d Hop. So it seems Noah Gray's outsnapping both
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: of them. Very solid price tag low ownership too, So
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: definitely in there. To be honest, I might be all overweight,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: all tight ends except Kelsey, and I'll definitely play a
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: lot of Kelsey, but I could see him being like
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: sixty five percent Island or something like that on this slate.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: The higher stakes, the more single entry, the more it's Kelsey.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: I think again.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: He leads the receiving props on he has the highest
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: yards compared to aj Brown, compared to Terry it's a
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: tight end position where it's solid, but you still have
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: to play one a lot. We'll play two. You get
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: a price discount from those guys. So I like Kelsey.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: I have no bad things to say about him, but
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: I think there's five very live pivots with those guys,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: and I'll be playing some two tight end sets that
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: just don't have Kelsey. They're all cheaper than them. So
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying I necessarily want to drop Kelsey down
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: to Noah Gray leave three thousand and go about it
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: that way. But you can build a team at least
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: twelve hundred on the table without Kelsey, and the next
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: highest priced tight end is Goddard fifteen hundred. There you
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: get you on a little different roster construction. So yeah,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: to be honest, I'll probably be overweight. I got I
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: hate running neck, so I have to naturally be overweight receiver,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: tight end, double ten end, the flex. I'll probably overweight Ertz, Kincaid,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: Gray Knox under Kelsey and just and again I'm locking Saquon.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: So that's one stance to help me get a little
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: different by no means of my fading Kelsey, though, But
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: when I do go squon and Kelsey. Then I really
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: have to start thinking about my other spots to not
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: be holding hands with everyone.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Josha said that. I think that's perfect, but like, yeah,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: this is then he says Ray David's gonna be off.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: There you go, like, there's literally so many ways when
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: people say you have nine spots and two of them
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: are gonna be high owned for great reason. So, like
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: you said, this is another key point and Josh is
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: hitting on them all. But you know I would I
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: would not group away these guys, Like that's exactly how
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: you get different with Mahomes or Josh Allen. You could
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: play both those guys. If you have these guys, if
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: you have lineups like this and Saquon, you're still way
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: different with a Kelsey and Saquon lineup. So it's just
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the way the pricing is. It's just the way the
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: slate is. But there's a ton of different angles. You
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: can take somebody mentioned Amari or Hollywood. You know, a
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Mari is gonna be way less owned than Hollywood for
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: one hundred bucks less if you're not on kincaid or
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: if you're you know, moving pieces around. If you've got
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen and you like that setup, then maybe that's
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: a way to go to get different within your lineup,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: but you know one is gonna be way lower owned
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: than the other, and then does it make sense with
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: the rest of your stack, your correlation, whatever else you're doing.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: It's just a two games slate, so definitely think that. Also,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of these things go out the window too.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Gerald, I was here great support of
• 1:14:07
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• 1:14:10
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• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: our optimizer. So just to note that, but yeah, I'm
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: not really gonna worry too much about negative correlation and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: stuff on just the two games Slate and my last
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: thing on tight end before we go to defenses and
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: whatever else. But you know the setup here of what
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: was I gonna say the tight end thing? There was
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: something else I was gonna mention. I lost my train
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: of thought. If again it I'll come back to it.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Who if anything else you want to add there? If not,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: you could take a into defense.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: No. I mean there's a lot of different ways to
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: go and light swap opportunity, like we kind of talked about,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: which is somewhat important when when you have two tight
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: ends in this last game that are gonna be very
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: popular a lot of teams if you just naturally go
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: in and build, they're gonna have Kelsey in Kincaid, and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: I guess I talked about just swapping off of Kincaid.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: There's other opportunities to swap as well. I mean, I
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: don't know the exact numbers on it, but like if
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: you do have Kelsey and Kincaid and you know you
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: need to get a little bit different, you can go
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: to Knocks and probably Knocks and like James Cook like
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: something like that. You can get to like James Cook
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: type teams. Where I think, like I said, I think
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: you get squeezed a little bit, or maybe it's Noah
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Gray in James Cook that probably looks out a little
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: bit better. So there's gonna be opportunities to late swap
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: involving tight ends, I think, because you have four tight
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: end is really in that last game, in that second game,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: that are very viable options today. So just and we
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: know a lot of uh we like them, the two
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: tight end teams, there's gonna be a lot of two
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: tight end teams. So it's just something to look at
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: going into that later game today.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the That's the part I forgot when I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: lost my turn at thought was to say. The other
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: thing about the Kelsey stuff. That title mention you just
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: hit on it for me was you may have a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: lot of Kelsey and then you may not later on
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: if you're playing the game and looking at it, because
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: if your if your early stuff goes bad, I mean,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Kelsey's gonna be the highest owned option there for sure,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: So you may have to make some uncomfortable swaps. And
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't end up being a two v two.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe it just has to be him down to down
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: to Gray or down to Knox or something, and you
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: just gotta leave that money. It's it sucks, but it's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: one thing, and if it ends up helping you out
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: or getting you into a spot, maybe situations like that
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: will arise and then maybe full on changes for your
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: whole lineup. But I think, just in general, something to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: think about is that late swap is gonna gonna happen
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: at tight end more than most of the other positions
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: on the slate. So anything else there who if not?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: You know, defense quick takes, and then if you guys
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: have your food stuff, throw it into the chat. I
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: know they want to know if Hoop's doing any food
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: for the games today now that his team is out,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: But what's your defense takes, Chaz.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: It is funny, just real quick on the food thing.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: It's every time I eat now, like I'm thinking, like, man,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: is this interesting? Is it gonna like? What are people
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: gonna think about this? So every time I literally eat lunch,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I don't eat breakfast, so lunch or dinner, this ship's
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: running through my head.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: So after that hockey play statement, yeah.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Oh it's crazy. It is nuts. Like last night I
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: had uh oh, my daughter in volleyball tournaments. We went
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: to the bar restaurant. After I ordered nachos and there's
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: olives on it. I start eating the olives just separately
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: from the you know, just picking the olives and eating them.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: They're like like a lot of people in the chat
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: don't like olives hoops. In terms of defense, like you
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: guys know what I'm doing, Like anytime I've had a
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: six figure plus plus win uh in NFL for for
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: some reason, it's included the Eagles d defense. So I'm
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: gonna state loyal to my Eagles defense. I mean, they're
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: gonna be the highest known, but I will have a
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: lot of them. Then the other three, you know, whatever
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: I get, I get with the Bills, Chiefs, Commanders. I
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: actually kind of like the Commanders a little bit, being
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: lighter on the Eagles passing game stuff. I think they
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: fit naturally well with my team. So probably you know,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: lean to the commanders, but I'll take whatever. I mean,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Eagle's definitely number one, and then those other three. Whatever
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I get, I get.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I really like the defenses in the second game and
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: just rule that wheel. The other thing is, I think
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: you can just play the defenses against their quarterback in
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: that game too, Like that's another way to get your
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: game stacked different because most people with Mahomes or Josh
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Allen lineups have the Eagles D. You go look at
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: your lineup, they're already built. Most of you, I know,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: go look at them. They have Mahomes, they have Allen,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: and then they got Eagles D. So when you you know,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: knowing everybody has that, there's a way that you can
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: easily see Josh Allen make some Lamar esque mistakes and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City D be needed, or vice versa. You
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: can see Mahomes finally make some mistakes or things that
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: he doesn't make a lot. But the Buffalo D looked
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: pretty solid last week until kind of that second half
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: when when the Ravens made their adjustments. But they were
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: doing their thing early on. So title, I'll kick it
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: to you real quick, and then we already got some
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: of these these food questions popping in there. So anything
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: on the d's.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not really.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: I lean the home scenes if I had to pick
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: right now, I think Chiefs is my highest exposed But
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: all all these quarterbacks have some sort of likes to
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: them and can try and make plays with like and
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: would make plays, which said, make some mistakes like we
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: saw with Lamar last week, who's the most likely to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: do that hurts maybe on a banged up knee, Josh
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: Allen trying to be superman. But again it's so one
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: play will change it all, which hopefully you're on the
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: right side.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: I like this one too, Josh. Obviously, anytime you can
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: just play the D against the chalkiest quarterback, certainly an
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: option there in non Mahomes lineups. I'll have that out.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'll play Bill's D in Mahomes lineups too.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I don't care. So I think that's that's gonna do it.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: And Gerald came through, so don't forget your pepsid old man.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: He got the He's mixing all the jokes together now
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: from all the previous shows, so staying sharp. We again
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: appreciate you. Gerald. This is a good one though, hoop
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: right out of the gates because we got through all
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: the stuff. The The main thing is here is you
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: know the food takes at the end. But I am curious,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: what what did you do for yourself after that loss?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Because you were at the game right late. Did you
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: stop and get anything or did you wait till you
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: get home.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: Which I did actually eat. I usually avoid eating late,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: but it was. It was a long day, got down
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: pretty early, started you know, consuming some some beverages and whatnot.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Me and missus Hoop went to went to the casino
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: after and obviously had some drinks, watched the end of
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: the UFC fight. She was playing some slots, I was
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: watching the the UFC fights. So we were there pretty late.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: I think it was probably two two thirty, and I
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: ended up going to the cafeteria there and having a
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: What did I eat? I had a cheeseburger at two
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: thirty in the mornings. I had a cheeseburger at two
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: in the morning after a lot of drinks, and then
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: may have had some fries as well, so that, I
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: guess was my comfort food that night. But the reason
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: it was just limited options is either that or like
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: a Ruben sandwich, or like mac and cheese or something.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: So I went with went with the cheeseburger at two thirty.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Did you get an extra cook on that burger? Are
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: you telling them to slam that thing back on the grill?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: Eat that shit? Well? Do give me a hockey puck
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: on there? So you hockey puck? You know, you put
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: the little comments after your order. He's on a screen like,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: give me a hockey puck.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, I should say before we finished the food takes,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: because now some people bail. But the tambo teaser, why
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: can't the commanders do it again? I'm putting it on
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: the line.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: It is commander's plus twelve. Everyone just thinks eagles, chiefs, eagles,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: you can get them out to pick them. In the teaser,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the commander's side. Jayden Daniels is special. We're
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: taking commanders plus twelve. We're taking bills plus eight. That's
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: the six point teaser that's putting on the line. And
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: then we got the Brian Robinson over thirty six and
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: a half. My man Nick said it was. It was.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: It went up a yard already, it's thirty seven and
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: a half. And this was what I was just going
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: to bring up because it was set at twelve and
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: a half with one and a half shots what it
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: ended up.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: So it's probably this was probably a pretty I didn't
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: I didn't count, but it's probably a pretty accurate number.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: It's definitely somewhere in that range. But it did remind
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: me of a somewhat of a talking point. So get
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: into the stadium again. I if I go, I'm a
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: lot of times in a suite. That's not like a
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: high rich sort of thing. I just have a good connection.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm not paying for drinks this time. I'm in
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: the seats, so walk in. I didn't really want a
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: beer because you guys know the bladder stuff, I'll be
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: peeing every two seconds. I was like, all right, I'm
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: gonna try to get a mixed drink or something. So
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: they have a stand for mixed drink, So go grab
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: a drink. I got a jack and jack and coke
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: or something. You want a double? I was like, yeah,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: I'll just take the double, you know, make it a
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: little stronger, don't have to pee as often. Missus Hoop
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: got a Tito's and like lemonade or something like that.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: She gets a double as well. And I knew it
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: would be expensive, but like sixty five dollars for two
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: mixed drinks, and like how do people afford this? Ship?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: Like how are people going to NFL games that often?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: Like that is expense. If you buy tickets, you buy parking,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: you buy food, you buy drinks, like you're in for
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: easily like well over one thousand It's like this ship
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: is expensive sixty five dollars for two mixed drinks. So
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: that may have that may have put me on the
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: under because I slowed that ship down like I'm deep,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: like I'm not hammering. I'm not hammering a ton of
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: these double jack and cokes at sixty five a pop. Fuck, No, man,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: not doing that ship. So actually it could have been
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: the under because of the price tag there.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: So that's exact.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what else do we.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Get you by? The UF sees the nuts to go to.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: But if you're not in a suite, that's the problem
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: with that. Think of eight hours, you're sitting around nine hours.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you spend similar price tags similar Yeah, especially in California.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: California hoop is locking Barkley today maybe potentially, but so
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: no cap at running back at least. But other positions,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: I mean that wide receiver, I think I want to
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: know be able to get as many options in that
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: I can make make make it make sense. So you
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: know that position is going to be extremely high variance today.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Who broke it down earlier? I think for sure at
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, even at tight end to titles point mix
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: in get your overweight stances on sort of all the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: options come in at the field or just underweight on kelsey,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: and you can be in a good spot that way too.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, but there's a three and a half hour
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: football game. I'm not gonna like hammer drinks and then
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: sit there sober for three hours. Like once I get
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: to once I get it going, I got to keep
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: it going. Like I can't. I can't shut it down
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: for three hours during the game. Like, yeah, of course
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: I'm tailgating and drinking before, but I ain't shutting it down.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: I will say, I remember I tail gate it with
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: whop ones. He can drink some, but he did tap out.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: He did tap out.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: From who.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Couldn't He couldn't chuck it down.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: You're saying I shut it down.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: You're saying, yeah, you passed on one. You're like, I
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: have to wait till I get in. I got you're
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: you're getting little too little too drunk.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't shut down the drinking. I mean I'm
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: gonna pump the break breaks on a shot.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, no light weight.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: Over with yeah, levels, Yeah, there's levels. Yeah, Okay, he.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: Said he passed on one. What was the Super Bowl food?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Must have Super Bowl party. What what do you gotta
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: see that?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: I gotta see some buffalo chicken dip. That's definitely my
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: number one. I love that buffalo chicken dip, so so good,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: so so good.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: And that's the one with the scoop chips on just
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: not salsa salt.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: Need Yeah, no, I'll scoop that ship. I'll max that out.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: I'll have it overflowing a nice mound, like it's not
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: gonna be the salsa where it's just like straight straight in,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: straight out. Make sure none of the ship gets on there. No,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: I'm taking taking it all. But that's like my that's
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: definitely my weakness. Is that that sort of food you
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: get that you get like chicken wings, like yeah, that
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: sort of stuff like I'll just I'll regret the next
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: day because like I'll be diving into all that ship
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: for sure. Besides pizza, no pizza.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: He's always out on that titled you got any favorite
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl?
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love wings if it's an appetizer. Pigs in
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: a blanket always a big fan over here. Wings my mind.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: The pigs in a blanket is that like the little
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: like sausages with the like pastry around them. Yep, yep, oh,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: I like those. Actually, what do you dip those in?
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: Catch up is my favorite to diploma. Sometimes I eat
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: them playing mustard. I like them with the mustard.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: I like them. Yeah, wings well done, of course, he says, yeah,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: that's true, very true. Gawk Oh yeah, what about that?
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: We never had this come up before. Do you walk
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: them only?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: Guy?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Fuck? No, I hate wings general. Yeah, can be a different,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: different conversation. I'm out on the guak man. You don't
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: like have a know. I'll eat avocado missus hoops. She's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: into all that shit. She likes the like avocado, like
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: toast and stuff that. I'll eat it like that, but
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: not with not guacamole style because they everyone puts onion
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: and tomato and.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: This is Hoop has all the right taste. Anytime I
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: get some food segments, swap Hoop, I'll get this.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not American. That's a Mexican thing, right, guacamole that's
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: not American food.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: He said that you don't like it because people always
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: go to like Chipotle too, right, Like that's always the thing.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Extra I'm getting get some walk on there like that's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Talk about thirty later or too right there?
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Saw American because I don't like walk. That's a bad take, man,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: that's a that's a Mexican food.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: You know what. I gotta tell you the story quick though,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: because very it's coming on. It's my birthday week. I
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: was very hungover yesterday's birthday. I wasn't into the mix
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: as much as I could have been, but we were
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: like needing some grease and some hangover food. And this,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: I think is a smart decision a local business around
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: me that nobody else would have this. You know what,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: they added as like a feature special in their menu
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: hoop Detroit Style pizza because it does stand out. It's like,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: oh shit, like that's different than something else. It's not
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: New York, it's not Chicago, like what everybody would expect.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: So I got a Detroit style pizza yesterday. It was nobody's, nobody's,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: but it it did the trick, man, it was. It
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: was definitely a good thing to go to, So I
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: was I was pretty pumped to see that. I thought
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: it was a super sharp move from a marketing perspective
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: because it stood out like crazy when you're going through
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: like the we don't it's not Uber eats either. It's
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: like they call it skip the dishes, but you look
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: through all the options, it's like a big picture of
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: that pizza. It was a good call.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: That's what happened.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: Skip the dishes. Yeah, but it's not very big, Like
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: it's it's crazy around here, know where I live, at
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: least Uber is there, But it's just not as busy.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: It's not like when you go to like one of
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: your guys's places, I can get an Uber and there's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: like a thousand within a you know, five meter or
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: five mile radius. This is like three or four are
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: cruising around the town and you got to hope that
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: they can find your house and do all this stuff.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: It's just a pain in the ass.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: I will say, who, Mexican's like your favorite food? You
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: said so regardless, it is.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: The problem I have with guac is again, Like it's
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: the they put the onions and I hate onions. Like
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: so a lot of quaca is onion. And I'm not
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: too picky.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: Corn tortillas or flowered I know someone mentioned that a
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: couple of shows ago.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really not all that picky when it comes
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: to that. I'm good with you know, I'm good with
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: good with whatever. To be honest with you.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who doesn't like pizza? But someone talked me into this.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: I got this when I was in Chicago. Rio was
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: at the Baseball Live Final and brought me down. Got
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: that on the last night. It was good, but it
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: wasn't I don't know just my take. It wasn't like
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: right home and tell everyone about this pizza. Good it was.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: It was a good pizza for sure, but you know
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: the peak wads, I think they. But one thing that
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: was did you ever have this sandwich? Hoop? Have you?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Have you been in Chicago?
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Did you ever have like it's called like Big Owl's
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: or something. It's like a it's a sandwich. You can
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: get it wet or dipped, and it's a beef sandwich.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: That was a top five sandwich. It was phenomenal.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: It's good. I haven't happened to Chicago a bunch. No,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: I've never never come across that one though.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: It's it's by Wrigley's someone in the chat and you
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: should Maye Dennis knows he's the Chicago guy, but it
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: was or Dave. But it was called like is it
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: al Al's beef? There? It is done of it Al's.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Beef original name. I mean, that's straight to the point.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: You know what you're getting there, You're getting Al's Al's beef.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Al, It's literally amazing. Though Portillo's is all right.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: I had that one too, but the Owl's was the one.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: We went back. I got another one. It's Italian beef
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: sandwich so good. It's like the beef has been sitting
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: there all day, just marinating up and if you dip
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: to wet, but you can get wet and they just
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: give it like a tap in and then you get
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit of the flavors.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Oh man, and sitting there all day and it's so flat. Like, man,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: what a great selling point for meat sandwich. Yeah, you
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: like the meat, I'll passed on. I'll pass on those
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: those roast beef curtain sandwiches.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Oh god, you ever have a title.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 4: I've had Italian beefs. I haven't had that exact place.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: That's I will say. I'm kind of on Portillo's. I
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: think it's definitely overrated. Yeah, but a really good one,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: like people are saying, I would definitely try a good
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: Italian beef.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: We went to this place.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, good spot. We went there too. A
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: wet beef sandwich sounds scary.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's what I'm on that path for sure.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: That sounds a little bit risky. That sounds definitely a
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: little bit risky.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: I was scarfing it. I thought they were delicious, man.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: I went back more.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: What's your hangover food?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Tampa?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: Was a pizza? You said you were hungover and you
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: want pizza?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: Oh? No, Usually usually it's like burgers. My wife loves burgers.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: Was getting that, or even homemade burgers. We make them here,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: barbecue them up in the summertime, like that's the way
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: to go. But pizza was just whatever reason. Yesterday because
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: the kids and they'd already had they were at the
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: the grandparents for well, we went out the night before
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: and so they already got McDonald's. So I was like,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: we're not getting fries again, so let's get pizza. And
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: we just saw that it stood out. I remember the buddies.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: It was pretty good, man, it was. It was a
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: solid sue.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: I'll do the burger for sure that next day. If
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little rough, like the burger. Some fry
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: five guys. That's another place that just robs you blind,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: Like I have guys like, man, you're paying a premium
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: for that ship nowadays.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: But they throw like an extra hundred fries in a bag.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: That to make up for it. Such a good deal.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: It is good, though, but this is true. Who hoop
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't like the wetness?
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: He wants a dumped that a one all over?
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: It makes it makes a good a one blue cheese
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: A hockey puck there.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Man, Oh, I sound so good.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: I do like chicken fried rice, but also fried chicken.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: I forgot to say that that's a great hangover food.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: I'll just go get some chicken. That'd be That'll solve everything. Yep,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: all right, what else? Anything else here?
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: Best hangover food? Frick chicken fried rice?
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: I like chicken fried rice, but I don't know if
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: I go to yeah, they ain't getting the job done.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: That's definitely not getting the job done.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what about that? Are you a pork chop guy, Hoop?
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like too. It's like super chewy.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: For if I'm gonna do that, I'd rather just just
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: give me a hockey puck steak instead.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: This is good. This is good. Like people don't people
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: sleep on the broasted or whatever? You want to call
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: it like, that's good. The fried chicken and waffles obviously good,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: maple syrup on there.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I see, I'm out on that. I mean, I'd
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: eat it, but it does not sound appealing.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Oh delicious, so good?
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: No that I don't like eggs. I don't like eggs. Yeah,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: just the burgers good enough.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Hoops order, he said, chicken, fried rice, no onion, no seasonings,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: no sauce, no chicken. Thank you.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Definitely that is funny because obviously, I'm sure you guys
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: know when we order food here misses who pandles it
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: all and if we're getting Chinese or anything like that,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: it's like, make sure there's not onion on that chicken.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: That is f oh man, this is a Canadian thing
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: for sure. My guy Travis got us here again. But
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: this is actually good. Have you ever had a breakfast?
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Have you ever had a poutine? In generally you've never
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: got to try it. It's it's like fries with cheese
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: curds and a gravy that melts it all together. It's
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: just delicious. It's like a common Canadian thing people always
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: talk about, especially in Montreal, but you can get a
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: lot of these places adapted. And I know you won't
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: like it hoop because it's eggs, but it's so good.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: You get like nice crispy hash browns, scrambled eggs, bacon
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: or whatever your meat of choices. They'll put some peppers
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: and some onion and then they do a hollandaise sauce
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: instead of a gravy. And it's a breakfast poutine and
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: it is so good. That is a good hangover food.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: Skillet sounds like some sort of a skillet like that.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: It's like that.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: That sounds really good.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Do it up for you. It's really good.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: That sounds really good. Yeah, we talked about sushi. I
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: mean I'll eat it, but like I'm not eating all
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: the crazy like raw fish stuff, Like I just want
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: the basics, Like I want California roll or something I
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: can't do like the crazy like raw fish ship. Like
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: if that's what you're asking, all these.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: Sushi, tuna, no raw fish, no wet beef hoops out,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: all that stuff just.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: Got to be the basic. The basic is California rolls,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: which I'm sure no one's surprised about.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see anything else. Yeah, someone said, have
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: had that much real it's good a lot. A lot
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: of people tried it's good. Have you ever had poutine? Title?
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: No, I haven't, but I definitely would try it.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 4: It sounds like I love skillet's, I guess skill its
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: a lot, and I love holiday sauce, eggs benedict like
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 4: that is fire.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe who doesn't eggs. That's another another
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: solid egg session.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: I will eat a omelet if it has the right
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: stuff on it. It's got to be like meat with
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: cheese and that's it. Like obviously, no veggies or anythings
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: like a meat lover's. That's the only time I really
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: eat eggs is on that sort of setup.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: You could be a grown ass man how much you
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: hit the gym.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: If you actually intake the good food, you could be
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: a good two twenty all muscle.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: I'm already grown ass man. Title. Just remember your boy,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: toss your ass around whenever you want you and aids.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: Where's big nads? Is he still here?
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: No? He's going in aids again.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: Geez, the old man, the old man. Don't forget that.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: Bloody Mary. Yeah, solve the hangover real quick.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that is the best way to solve
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: a hangover for sure is to suck down a bloody marry,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: that is, that's definitely for sure.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: Johnny's right, you're reaching the ground. Well it's Groundhog Day again,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: but that's coming up soon. By the way, I think,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: what is it, February second. We got to see it
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: the Groundhog season shadow and find out if we're getting
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: six more weeks of winter. So we'll see. But I
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: think the Bloody Mary was a good call to round
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: it out. Any final thoughts from you guys before we
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: get out of here.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Paying toss and sit around. That's all I got.
• 1:37:04
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• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: the play, Just remember sit that one out, big dog.
• 1:37:11
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• 1:37:13
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• 1:37:15
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• 1:37:18
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• 1:37:21
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• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: final from you.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: Two great games again, do not forget about the late
• 1:37:55
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• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: Playing the min cash game, do you think you have
• 1:37:59
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• 1:38:03
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• 1:38:05
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• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: What a slate though?
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• 1:38:13
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• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: Receiver got to get the wide receiver room right, Quarterback defense,
• 1:38:19
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• 1:38:28
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