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Chief Medical Examiner Barbra Sampson Refutes Dr. Baden's Claims About Epstein's Death · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: Like to present all sides of every single argument, right,
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So what I'm gonna do tonight is I have two articles.
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The first one we're gonna read is from the Daily
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Beast and it says WHOI NYC Medical examiner dismisses Epstein
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homicide claim by doctor Michael Boden. So we have conflicting storylines.
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You had to figure that the medical examiner was gonna
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step out and say that Boden was lying or he
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was incorrect, considering she had already rendered her report. So
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that's the first article. And the second article is about
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the journalists who stormed Epstein's island. So I'll post both
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links in the description. You'll be able to click on
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both of those links and read the stories for yourselves
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like usual. And on the link where the reporter stormed
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the island, there's actually a bunch of pictures where you
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could look at like some of the different things on
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the island, the temple, et cetera, et cetera. All right,
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so let's jump right in and let's follow up with
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our earlier report today about Michael Bodden saying that the
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Jeffrey Epstein's death was more consistent with strangulation by homicide
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as opposed to suicide. Now, this is the counter narrative
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to that. New York City's chief medical examiner pushed back
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hard Wednesday against a celebrity pathologist for hires conspiracy stirring
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claim that Jeffrey Epstein's autopsy was more consistent with homicide
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than suicide. All right, you could already see from the
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tone that we're setting. The author of this piece, pathologist
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for hires, conspiracy stirring claim already right off the jump,
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is discrediting doctor Boden right off the bat. The original
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medical investigation was thorough and complete. There is no reason
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for a second medical investigation by our office, said doctor
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Barbara Sampson. Well, maybe not by your office, But don't
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you think that you should provide all of those documents
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to the family. I don't care who the family is,
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be it Epstein or anyone else. I think that the
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family should have the records of their deceased relative, and
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if they want to perform their own investigation, you certainly
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should not stand in their way, doctor Samson. Samson determined
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Epstein died by suicide from hanging in his jail cell
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in August while he was awaiting trial. On sex trafficking charges.
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All right, stop pause from hanging. That would mean hanging
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from like the ceiling, right, that's what they're trying to imply.
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But we all know that that isn't the case. We
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all know that it was from the second bunk. We
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all know that he leaned forward to hang, not your
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traditional hanging like you would see in a movie per
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se Epstein's law. Excuse me. Epstein's lawyers and family have
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refused to accept her finding, and the disgraced financiers brother
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hired doctor Michael boden erst Yt of HBO's autopsy to
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do his own investigation. During an appearance Wednesday morning on
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Fox News, where he is a contributor, Biden said his
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own review isn't complete, but nonetheless suggested that suicide isn't
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the cause of death. Okay, you're doing the same exact thing,
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suggesting that suicide is not the cause of death. You
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don't have all the evidence. All you have to go
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on is what the medical examiner told you. So once again,
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you're going by what the elites told you, what the
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establishment told you, what the legacy media says to you,
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what they tell you to believe. I think a further
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investigation is warranted. No, he claimed a collection of neck
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fractures in Epstein's hyroid bone and thyroid cartilage are extremely
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unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly
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in homicidal strangulation. That's a fact. We did the research
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for that. We saw that. That was a fact I've
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not seen in fifty years where that occurred in a
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suicidal hanging case, Boden said, although more common in homicidal
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strangulation cases, although more common, listen, Although more common in
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homicidal strangulation cases, some studies, some studies, they don't refer
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to any studies here except for one down here, but
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some studies, so they say multiple studies and only are
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referring to one. Although although more common in homicidal strangulation cases,
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some studies have found that hyoid and thyroid fractures are
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not rare in suicidal hangings. A two thousand study in
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Australia found fractures in nearly half the forty suicide cases
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it examined, and said they were even more common in
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older victims than men. In fact, fifteen percent had fractures
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of both the hyoid and the thyroid oh a hole,
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whopping fifteen percent breaking news, But that means eighty five
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percent of them did not. Okay. Twenty ten study out
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of Thailand found such fractures in twenty five percent of
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the confirmed suicides are reviewed. All right, so let's get
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some context. How about you add that. I don't think
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you've added that, though author from the Daily Beast is
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that because you have an agenda? Does the Daily Beast
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have an agenda? Come on, no way? All right. Buden,
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who observed the autopsy performed by Sampson, served briefly as
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the city's chief medical examiner before being fired in nineteen
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seventy nine by then Mayor Ed Koch in response to
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a complaint that he told doctors during a guest speaking
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event that government got that Governor Nelson Rockefeller had died
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during sexual intercourse. Okay, So continuing with the hit piece
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as opposed to see this is the problem with the media,
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as opposed to sticking to the facts. They go right
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in for the hit piece, They go right in for
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the Nancy Karrigan knee shot. Why do they have to
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do that? Why can't you just provide the evidence from
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both sides like the Fox article did. That pretty well.
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It wasn't really saying one way or the other. This
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is right. This is like the author of this piece
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feels like it's their job to come out and defend
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the establishment, defend the examiner's office. Why they haven't shown
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you anything. This dude observed the autopsy, did you? No,
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you didn't. Three years later, he was dismissed as chief
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Deputy Medical Examiner by Suffolk County, New York over a
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magazine article about ways to kill that wouldn't show up
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in an autopsy. He protested that he was misquoted. In
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the seventies, Boden helped Congress investigate the assassinations of President
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John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. All Right,
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so he was thought of well enough to be asked
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to investigate the assassination of the President of the United
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States and Martin Luther King Junior. But the author of
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this piece knows better than him. And now look, please
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don't get it twisted. I'm not saying that he's correct
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and it was suicide. But what I'm saying is the
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way this articles written is to is to make you
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discount what he had to say earlier. They're trying to
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run a counter narrative to protect the original narrative. And
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it's so weird. That's not what the media's job is.
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The media's job is to provide us the news. He
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concluded that Lee, Harvey Oswald and James R. Alay, respectively,
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were the killers, but became famous for serving as a
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private pathologist in high profile cases like the Aaron Hernandez suicide,
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the OJ Simpson murder trial, and the Jason Williams shooting.
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He also served as a defense witness and the Phil
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Spector murder trial, where he reportedly testified that he had
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no conflict of interest in the case even though his
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wife was heading Spector's legal team. Okay, Boden isn't the
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only one skeptical about the official account of Epstein's death
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at the high security federal lock up in Manhattan, which
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is currently the subject of a Justice Department probe. All Right,
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so they just kind of glide right into that, right,
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All right, Well, we made Boden look to be look at,
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we made him out to look like a quack. But
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let's slide right into this and say he's not the
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only one that believes that Spencer coven A lawyer representing
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victims of Epstein said serious questions remain, including the whereabouts
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of the guards assigned to monitor him, why the cameras
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outside his cell apparently didn't work, and why he was
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taken off of suicide Watch. Okay, now, as the author
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of this piece, don't you think that you would be
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on the phone with mcc and finding out what the
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deal is and then if you get stonewall, don't you
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go to your publication and see This is where they
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have the advantage over independent journalists. They can go to
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their publication, and their publication could push to try and
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get access, to try and get the story, but instead, no,
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instead write a hit piece. They don't give us any
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new information. They just give us a bit of a
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backstory on Michael Bodden that really doesn't matter to this story.
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It all makes no sense until they come out with
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the evidence. I don't believe anything they're telling us, Covin said,
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I think that's a perfectly logical stance to have at
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this point, don't you. I mean, let's be real, what
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have they ever been honest with us? Exactly what happened?
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I can't tell you, but I certainly don't believe the
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story they're trying to feed everyone. Sicret McCauley, an attorney
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at Boys Schiller Flexner, the law firm representing some of
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Epstein's victims, said the ongoing Justice Department probe limits what
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canon should be said at this time. But as the
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public has come to understand the horrifying scope and scale
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of the international of the international, we've been talking about
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that as well sex trafficking system. He operated for decades
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with impunity. What really matters for the brave survivors who
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are seeking justices how he lived, not how he died.
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She said, that is how the man should be judged.
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Coven said his clients are more interested in seeing co
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conspirators prosecuted than in delving into epstein autopsy theories. One
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hundred percent. I feel the same way. I'd much prefer
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to see these people get justice. But at the same time,
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we're not just gonna let go of all of this
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weird circums, all these weird circumstances surrounding his suicide aka death,
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whatever you want to call it, until we get those answers.
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We're going to talk about that. That's what free societies do.
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We discuss things, all right, We're not gonna have anyone
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tell us, no, you can't talk about that. No, that's
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not the conversation that should be had. Get out of here,
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beat it. We're gonna talk about whatever we want to
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talk about. The justice system failed. He either allowed him
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to take his own life or someone got in there
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and killed him, Coven told the Daily Beast. Either way,
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it's a failure of the Justice Department, which has failed
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them repeatedly over the last thirteen years. This was just
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one more time being bang boom. He's one hundred percent
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correct with that. We all know the Justice Department has
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one set for them and one set for us. If
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you've been listening to the show, you know I drive
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that point home on a regular basis. These guys think
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they're smooth with their different sets of rules, with the
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way they conduct themselves, and then the way they conduct
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the way they expect us to conduct ourselves. That's the
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kind of thing that subjects have imposed on them. And
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I don't know about you, but I am not a subject.
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I am a citizen, all right. So that was the
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article from the Daily Beast that ran in counter to
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what we talked about earlier, And like I said, I
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like to be fair here. If I could find opposing
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opinions on things, I like to talk about both sides
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of the story, and then we come to our own
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opinions here, right, Weet, We don't get let into anything,
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We don't get talked into anything. The evidence leads us
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where we're going, and the evidence leads us hopefully to
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the truth. All right, So this next article is pretty awesome.
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These dudes who storm this island, Luke Radkowski and Jeff
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Berwick of We Are Change, They storm the island and
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they got pictures and all sorts of great stuff. Right,
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So this is an article from the Daily Mail. The
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headline is revealed Jeffrey Epstein massage room, underground layers, temple
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and trick doors on Pedophile Island, his Caribbean hideaway that
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still has its own ambulance and remains fully staffed. All right,
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First of all, why the guy, why the hell do
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you need an ambulance on this island? Right? Is there
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a hospital? I don't understand. Let's jump into the article, Lukeridkowski,
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if we are Changed? These are the bullet points, by
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the way, before the article starts. Luke Radkowski, if We
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Are Changing? And Jeff Berwick film some of the buildings
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on Little Saint James Jeffrey Epstein's Caribbean hideaway. The men
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got inside an office on the island, as well as
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getting a look at one of the outdoor massage rooms.
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Ratkowski also explored a few of those underground structures, including
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one that appeared to house the islands generator. The video
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revealed that the wooden doors on the island's infamous temple
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are painted on and not real. Their journey was cut short, though,
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when they were forced to flee from staff who began
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chasing them down, they said in the video, one staff
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member was seen just a few feet away from Rodkowski
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with fresh towels in one shot. All right, that last
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bullet point, they spell Luke's name wrong. It's Rudkowski, not
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r id Kowski. And make sure you check those dudes
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out over at we are changed. They do great work.
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This will be linked in there so you can check
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how those pictures. You gotta make sure you check those
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pictures out. There's some insanely weird stuff going on this island.
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We've talked about it, the temples, We've talked about some
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of the other weird stuff on this island. But before
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I start rambling on. Let's jump into the article and
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read it and see what's what. The outdoor massage room
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where underage girls with tend to Jeffrey Epstein is seen
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for the first time a new video shot by two
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men who claim they raided his Caribbean hideaway. Luke Ratkowski,
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if we are changed and Jeff Berwick were able to
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get onto the island and explore Epstein's office a few
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of the underground layers and get close enough to the
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pedophile's infamous temple on Little Saint James to reveal that
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the doors of the structure in fact painted on the building.
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Their journey was cut short, though, when they were forced
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to flee from staff who began chasing them down. They
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said in the video, and there is still plenty of
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staff on the island, as in one shot a man
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can be seen in the reflection of a window walking
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just a few feet away from Ridkowski with what looks
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like a mop and some towels. It is unclear who
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the fresh towels are for all right, hold up, hey,
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is this opera island still in operation? Why hasn't it
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been seized by the government. I don't understand. How are
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their people still there. Who is paying them? Why are
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they being paid? What is going on on this island still?
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Why are these guys getting chased off of this island?
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I don't get it. There's also a look at an
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office on the island which has which has the manual
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for a charger and a little British flare in the
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form of a sign that reads keep calm and carry on.
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Next up, Rodkowski explored a few of those underground structures,
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including one that appeared to house the island's generator. The
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final scene of the men fleeing shot a few minutes
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after an island staffer strolled by Rodkowski is cut with
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a look at the massage room. All right, so they
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spelled his name wrong again? Now they spelled it rodkows right,
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And the next the back to the article. Two beds
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lay on a floor in an outdoor hut which is
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a full kitchen in the neighboring room. The biggest surprise, however,
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is the doors on on Epstein's temple. The actual entrance
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to the structure is boarded up, and what has long
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appeared to be a functional wooden door turns out to
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be a bit deceptive once up close. The video reveals
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that those two doors on the temple. On the temple
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hold on, guys, the temple right, Who needs a temple
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on their private island? What do you mean a temple?
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Who are you praying to have anything to do with
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that spirit cooking and those Podesta emails? Maybe a Bramovich
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around you guys have having a spirit cooking luncheon. Hey,
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yay yay. Once up close, the video reveals that those
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two doors on the temple are painted on and that
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Epstein has his initials on the temple. The temple on
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the island remains without its dome, however, which has been
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missing for some time. One local told Dali mail dot
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com that they were under the impression that Epstein had
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his staff remove the dome ahead of a hurricane. Hurricane Irma,
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which was a Category five storm when it made landfall
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on the island is still the most powerful hurricane to
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ever hit the Atlantic region. The dome never went back up, however,
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and now the temple sits unadorned and stripped on the
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islands as it should. Burn that thing to the ground.
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Who knows what went on in that place. And look,
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I'm not one of these guys that's like, you know,
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into the whole theory that people are like running around
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with pitchforks and having Satanic masks and stuff. But when
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you start reading in these these emails from these people
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to each other that were released in the Wiki leaks dump,
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the Podesta dump about spirit cooking, and then you start
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researching what all of that stuff is. I mean, you know,
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there's questions that need to be answered by men. I mean,
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you know, look, you guys need to answer some questions.
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It's people aren't crazy for asking these questions. Now. Do
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I think some people go a little overboard with some
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of the the far out conspiracy theories, for sure, But
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that's not my place to tell people what to think
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if they if they do research and that's what they
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come to. Hey, you know, who am I to tell
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them not to believe that what I'd like I said
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here though, we're presenting facts here and what's going on
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right now is completely and utterly crazy. Today has been
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a crazy day for news. The Temple has been a
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great interest in members of the q ann community, who
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had been talking about the island long before Epstein's current
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arrest or Julie Brown's explosive expos in the Miami Herald.
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It wasn't just people in the QAA non community. It
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was people that have followed the case, that have seen
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pictures that have wondered, why do you have a temple there.
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Many members of the community believe that Epstein hid young
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girls he allegedly enslaved in underground rooms below the temple
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in other parts of the island. There is no concrete
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evidence to support to support that claim, but the community's
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belief that a famous actress was recruiting young victims for
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Epstein is not completely implausible. Wow, wow, now you have
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the Daily Mail step it out talking about this stuff,
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even it's not completely plausible, etcetera, etcetera. Hey it's not.
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I mean, look at what's what it's going on with
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Nexium and Alison Mack and Keith Raniery. This stuff is happening, folks.
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We have to open our eyes. They talk about being woke.
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This is being woke. If you're not woke to what's
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really going on in the abuse of people that are
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considered nothing more than cattle, well I don't know what
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to tell you. That's what being really woke is. Because
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these rich elites, they don't give up, they don't care.
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Just take a look. Just take a look at what
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this guy got away with. What he keeps geting, what
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he kept even in death. What he's getting away with.
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Epstein was the owner of not one but two islands
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in the Caribbean, having more than doubled his property holdings
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in January twenty and sixteen when he paid eighteen million
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for Great Saint James. So that is in twenty and
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sixteen with Ben Solomon, when he purchased the island in
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his name. Now, mind you, this is a bunch of
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years after he's been arrested for this nonsense. But I
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guess you know, when you're a rich Gulf Coast elite,
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Middle Eastern elite, this is all par for the course.
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You can just do whatever you want. You don't care
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if the guys in molester, as long as you're getting paid. Right.
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That one hundred and sixty two acre property is located
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next to Little Saint James, the seventy one and a
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half acre island he purchased in nineteen ninety eight for
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seven point nine to five million, and Epstein had big
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plans for the latest addition to his already sizeable real
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estate portfolio. Prior to his death. This included the additional
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the addition of a barge dock, two homes, cottages and
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amphitheater gardens, a marine electrical cable, solar array and generator,
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storage building, security building, workshed, machine shop, and an underwater
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office and pool. That barge in. A few completed structures,
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as well as construction equipment, are still visible in aerial
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images of the island. This work has been done. This
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bite the fact that only that only the construction of
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a flagpole and repair of cisterns has been approved on
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the island. All right, So he didn't pull any permits
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for this stuff. Why would he? Well, he's not going
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to get in trouble. He'd grease whatever palms he needed to.
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He does whatever he wants. Meanwhile, if you or I
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turn our garage into an apartment, forget it. We got
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code violations, fines. People are kicking in our door with
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machine guns probably like where were you know? The uh,
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the what's it called? The guys that were in Waco.
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It's unbelievable. Epstein's plans hit a snag, however, soon after
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he purchased the island, when he was hit with a
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pair of cease and desist orders. The first citation was
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in regards to unpermitted land clearing. Epstein eventually managed to
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remedy that situation by paying a seventy thousand dollars fine.
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Oh it's almost like I'm a psychic, Right Records show,
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and paid an even steeper fine after the second offense
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in October. Yeah, because that guy's boss that he hand
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he greased, his boss needed to get his ad greased. Now,
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so bada bing by boom, by a bang, everybody's getting
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a piece. Everybody's wet in their beak. Like I said,
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it's like organized crime, folks, this is a Rico case.
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Where's the Rico case? The exact amount is not known,
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but the fine was between one hundred and forty thousand
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and one hundred and eighty thousand dollars. That buys a
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lot of Modello lights. Work then continued, mostly unclearing the
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dense vegetation to make a main road around the island
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until December of last year. That is when Epstein was
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again hit with yet another season desist, which it seems
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he opted to ignore. Sounds like probably a blackmail case
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or probably trying to get more dough from them. Workers
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have continued to forge ahead on the plans over the
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past few weeks. Even while Epstein was behind bars, authorities
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had been trying to get on the island to determine
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what was going on for close to a year prior
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to Epstein's death. Okay, really they weren't trying hard enough,
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because this is the federal government we're talking about. If
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they wanted to pull that warrant, they could pull that warrant.
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They could pull warrants for anything. They had warrants to
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spy on Papadopolis. They could pull warrants for whatever they want.
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They didn't for a reason. Who told them not to?
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These are the questions that must be asked. He had
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erected no trespassing signs throughout the island due to the
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aras the area's popularity with tourists who are now turning
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out and even higher numbers after his death. Local laws
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make all land below the tider bush lines public property,
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so Epstein cannot legally kick people off of those lands.
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These two islands were not his only major holding in
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the area, either, with Epstein also owning fifty percent Steak
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in America Yacht Harbor, a port that slips for one
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hundred and twenty three yachts, sailboats and pleasure crafts, as
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well as the Strip mall of offices. Hmm, I wonder
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who has their yacht stored there? Maybe that's something we
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should look into. Epstein's firm, Southern Trust Company, was in
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that same strip, where he operated at least fifteen LLC's
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in the two decades prior to his death, according to
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public records obtained by dailymail dot Com. Those records also
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revealed that his office manager for much of that time
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was Cecial Dijon, the former first Lady of the Virgin Islands.
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You see, folks, you see what's going on. How do
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you think he got those bribes through? How do you
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think he got that land through? How do you think
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he got it? So nobody was able to come to
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that land because he's paying people money talks, money talks.
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We all know that. It is unclear what if any
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benefits Epstein had been afforded because of his hiring of Dejon.
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Oh well, we can speculate, right, I mean, the media
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is good at speculating these days. That's all they do
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is speculate. So let's speculate. I'm sure he got plenty
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of benefits for hiring her. Really, you really think that
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it was no quid pro quo? Isn't that the buzzword
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going on right now in the media, quid pro quo? Well,
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it looks like some quid pro quo going on here.
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She was not first lady when she took the job.
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Oh well, that's all right. And her husband, John's run
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happened to coincide with the exact moment the allegations against
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Epstein first became public. He was eventually elected to office
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in two thousand and seven and served two terms as governor,
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despite his wife's ties to Epstein, of course, because they
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ran the same line. I bet we knew nothing. Come on,
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and you see the deal he got. It wasn't that bad.
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It was a slap on the wrist. He wasn't that
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bad of a person, cow man. So here we are,
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once again, more news breaking. For some reason, we have
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just a flurry of news today, several articles. These are
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the main ones, obviously, But here we go. Let's hope
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that this is a new trend going forward. Let's hope
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that the media keeps releasing articles and they keep pushing
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this story to the forefront where it belongs, and as
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far as the suicide situation, Like I told you guys
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earlier this morning, make up your own minds with that situation.
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Nobody can tell you one way or the other until
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the real evidence has all been presented and put on
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the table. Do you trust some medical examiner? I don't.
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I've never even heard of that lady. Why should I
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trust her because she's a medical examiner? Give me a break.
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She doesn't have any credibility with me just because somebody
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else tells me that she's credible. And the same goes
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for a botan He could very well be passing off disinformation.
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We have to see, but everything needs to be explored.
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In this case. The rabbit hole is deep and there
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are many warrens, and we must explore everything