Latest / Best of Business / Oliver Mander: NZ Shareholders Association CEO on Fletcher Building disappointing shareholders at recent AGM
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Fletcher Building's chief executive and board faced some pretty unhappy
- 0:19Speaker 2: shareholders today at the company's and your General Meeting. The
- 0:22Speaker 2: new chief executive, Andrew Reading, had to deliver more bad news,
- 0:26Speaker 2: if you can believe it, announcing that revenue was down
- 0:28Speaker 2: twelve percent in September compared to a year ago and
- 0:31Speaker 2: gross margins were under pressure. Oliver Amanda is the chief
- 0:34Speaker 2: executive of the Shareholders Association and he was actually at
- 0:37Speaker 2: the AGM today.
- 0:38Speaker 3: Hey Oliver, Hi, Heather, how are you very well? Thank you?
- 0:42Speaker 2: Although, jeez, when is this bad news going to end?
- 0:47Speaker 3: Well? Shareholders of Fletcher Building really hope it ends very soon.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Do you expect that it will end soon?
- 0:54Speaker 3: Though?
- 0:55Speaker 2: Hope and expectation are two completely different things.
- 0:58Speaker 3: They completely are. And look, that was one of the
- 1:00Speaker 3: questions that I did ask today. Look, I think the
- 1:03Speaker 3: thing that really still out at the meeting for me
- 1:05Speaker 3: was the fact that you the people on the on
- 1:08Speaker 3: the podium today, they were a very humble group of people,
- 1:12Speaker 3: and that's the sort of humility that we have not
- 1:13Speaker 3: seen in a flectual building board for a very long time.
- 1:17Speaker 2: How did they demonstrate their humility?
- 1:20Speaker 3: I think they they were very prepared to listen to
- 1:23Speaker 3: what shareholders had to say. They allowed, you know, the
- 1:26Speaker 3: questions that were being asked were really quite authentic in
- 1:30Speaker 3: terms of what was coming from the floor and the
- 1:31Speaker 3: impact that the that the company's performance has had on
- 1:35Speaker 3: shareholders in terms of their own returns and expectations. And
- 1:40Speaker 3: the company was very clear about taking accountability for that.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Board members, individual board members are very clear about taking
- 1:45Speaker 3: accountability for that. Yeah, we know from what we wrote
- 1:49Speaker 3: back in February that since February, the board has taken
- 1:51Speaker 3: significant steps to address many of the kids and the
- 1:54Speaker 3: concerns that we're raised, and that does include the fact
- 1:56Speaker 3: that half the board is now no longer there.
- 1:59Speaker 2: Do you think accountability is part of the reason why
- 2:01Speaker 2: Barbara Chapman is announced she's going to resign as a director.
- 2:06Speaker 3: I think that is a really could question, Heather, That's
- 2:11Speaker 3: possibly it, but also it's Fletcher Building has been a
- 2:15Speaker 3: notoriously difficult company to govern for some time. I don't
- 2:21Speaker 3: think Chapman ever put herself forward as a long term
- 2:23Speaker 3: chair for the organization I think the board has listened
- 2:27Speaker 3: to shareholders in terms of seeking out experienced people in
- 2:30Speaker 3: the building products industry or building materials background that are
- 2:35Speaker 3: probably much more suited to that board. Any board needs
- 2:38Speaker 3: a balance of skills to govern itself effectively. That's very true.
- 2:42Speaker 3: But also when things not balanced, things don't go well.
- 2:45Speaker 3: And that was a point that was made by a
- 2:46Speaker 3: shareholders today as well.
- 2:49Speaker 2: You must know the new chief executive because he was
- 2:51Speaker 2: obviously the chair at the Shareholders Association for Ages.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, so I know Andrew reading very well. Until
- 2:58Speaker 3: August the twenty second, of course he was my chair here,
- 3:01Speaker 3: so that's right.
- 3:02Speaker 2: And tell me about him. Has he got the chops
- 3:04Speaker 2: to turn this thing around?
- 3:06Speaker 3: Well, we would knew that, Andrew. He knew Fletchers when
- 3:12Speaker 3: it was good, way back in two thousand and six
- 3:14Speaker 3: when he worked there, and he certainly comes from good
- 3:16Speaker 3: pedigree at that time at a time and the company
- 3:20Speaker 3: was high performing at a time when look, he was
- 3:24Speaker 3: one of the people been running for the top job
- 3:26Speaker 3: at that time. So knowing what the company was like
- 3:29Speaker 3: when it's good, balanced with a very heavy dose of
- 3:32Speaker 3: external perspective, and did to say his own commentary on
- 3:36Speaker 3: Fletcher Building, dating from way before I got here. Look,
- 3:40Speaker 3: I think that does provide the new broom that shareholders
- 3:44Speaker 3: have been looking for. And what's really interesting, I mean,
- 3:46Speaker 3: since he's been there in the two short months since
- 3:50Speaker 3: he hasn't ounced the strategic review of the portfolio of
- 3:52Speaker 3: businesses that Fletcher holds. We think that's a really critical
- 3:55Speaker 3: step because actually that's ultimately about making sure that the
- 3:58Speaker 3: company allocates capital and the right way allocat's capital into
- 4:02Speaker 3: the businesses that can provide the highest return for shareholders
- 4:04Speaker 3: going forward. And you know, he's got a very focused
- 4:09Speaker 3: planned would seem focused on cost reduction, cash management, capital alvation,
- 4:15Speaker 3: closing up the legacy issues that they've had, as well
- 4:17Speaker 3: as that strategic review. So all that sounds really promising
- 4:21Speaker 3: and well hopeful for shareholders to use that terrible word.
- 4:26Speaker 3: And look, we would hope he's being supported by a
- 4:29Speaker 3: board that can give him the support that he needs
- 4:31Speaker 3: to undertake his work.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Yeah, fair point, Oliver, Thanks very much, Oliver Man, the
- 4:34Speaker 2: Chief executive of the Shareholders Association. Gee's tough times at
- 4:37Speaker 2: Fletcher eight.
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