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Ian Furness 10/6 H2: Cougs Talking Cougs, it's a win now world and the daily power play! · The Ian Furness Show

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Speaker 2: That's a late game coming up. All right. It's a
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Speaker 2: disaster in Pullman so far under Kirby Moore. Let's talk
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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. It is time to check
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Speaker 2: in with our Cougs, Alex Brink. And Christo Bruce, the
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Speaker 2: legends that are Washington State University football. Alex, are you
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Speaker 4: Feels like I'm in the closet here. No, I'm at
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Speaker 4: one of our E-Force sports facilities. It's in the side office,
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Speaker 4: you know, with all our storage stuff.
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Speaker 2: I won't even ask MK where he's at. He's got, like,
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Speaker 2: offices all across the country. When you're a world traveler
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Speaker 2: like he is, that's what it is. That's what it is.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 2: We've got a lot to get to today. I had
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Speaker 2: guys yesterday talking to me like, I'm getting texts on
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Speaker 2: the weekend. Are the boys coming on on Tuesday? What's
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Speaker 2: going on? They need to hear from the legends. Let's
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Speaker 2: just start with this. Five games in, one and four.
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Speaker 2: We'll get to some of the details in a second.
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Speaker 2: Let's just get to some overall thoughts. Alex, I'll start
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Speaker 2: with you and what you've seen. We'll get to Fresno
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Speaker 2: State and all that in a second, maybe possible changes.
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Speaker 2: But let's just get the general assessment where this team
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Speaker 2: is five games in.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think it's, you know, it's obviously really disappointing
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Speaker 4: just where this team feels like they are so, you know,
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Speaker 4: snake bitten by, you know, things that I think are controllable, right?
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Speaker 4: Pre-snap penalties and, you know, mental errors and things like that.
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Speaker 4: And you see some flashes of good and some moments
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Speaker 4: of good and then they're not able to maintain it
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Speaker 4: for 60 minutes and I think for me, that's, what's frustrating.
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Speaker 4: Cause you know, and I will say like in past
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Speaker 4: Washington state teams, you know, they've had their moments of struggle,
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Speaker 4: but have seemed to be able to pull themselves out
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Speaker 4: of it.
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Speaker 5: And I don't know if that's a, you know, there's.
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Speaker 4: Certainly a piece where we have to appreciate that you have,
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Speaker 4: you know, a new head coach and a new staff
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Speaker 4: and a lot of new things. And then the idea
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Speaker 4: of the transfer portal and like what that means for teams,
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Speaker 4: you know, and their ability to gel, like some teams
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Speaker 4: do it. Some teams are Indiana, you know, and some
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Speaker 4: teams aren't, you know, and so you gotta how that
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Speaker 4: plays out and, how these groups gel and bond is,
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Speaker 4: I think, an interesting dynamic.
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Speaker 5: And Washington State is just not there yet.
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Speaker 3: You know, and Ian, I'll tell you this. This is
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Speaker 3: my first time back this season, and my wife and
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Speaker 3: I were able to fly over there.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if I mentioned I'm a pilot or
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Speaker 5: not yet.
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Speaker 2: No, no, we had no idea. We don't see anything
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Speaker 2: on social media or anything like that. Alex, did you
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Speaker 2: know that?
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Speaker 6: Did you know he's a pilot?
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Speaker 5: I think he had a boat or something. So we
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Speaker 5: fly in there. Captain.
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Speaker 3: Landon to Pullman, and we go over to the RV Lightning.
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Speaker 3: And here's the thing, though. Pullman's such a special place
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Speaker 3: for anybody that's kissed there. It's my wife's first time
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Speaker 3: back in a long time. Everybody believes that this could
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Speaker 3: be a very good team, and we're so close to
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Speaker 3: being that, right? As we get into the stadium, and
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Speaker 3: I'm thinking all the way up, they've done such a
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Speaker 3: great job of creating a fan experience. So if you
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Speaker 3: haven't been there yet this year, they brought in lights.
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Speaker 3: They brought in music. They brought in a screen. And
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Speaker 3: everything for a good, great Pullman environment is set up.
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Speaker 3: The stage was absolutely set up. The band was absolutely electrifying.
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Speaker 3: They did a wonderful job. The atmosphere was something I
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Speaker 3: haven't seen in years there. It was a great atmosphere
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Speaker 3: that I think collectively Washington State set up to have
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Speaker 3: a great win in that stadium that day.
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Speaker 5: It was electrifying.
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Speaker 3: And then when we get out there, defense, I'm telling you, Ian,
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Speaker 3: as a defensive back from Washington State, Defense could not
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Speaker 3: have been in more bad situations. You could not have
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Speaker 3: tried to put him in more bad situations. And collectively,
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Speaker 3: this may be the worst offense I have seen personally,
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Speaker 3: and it was so hard to watch. It was so
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Speaker 3: hard to watch. And we'll keep talking about it from here,
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Speaker 3: but I'm letting you go. Holistically, I like the environment
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Speaker 3: and what Washington State is doing. The only way to
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Speaker 3: change is offense.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. It's interesting, too, because, Alex,
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Speaker 2: you mentioned that And it's true. The reality of college
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Speaker 2: football these days, new staffs, transfer portal, new players. The
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Speaker 2: problem is, then when you have an Oregon State with
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Speaker 2: Jamarcus Shepard and the best freshman receiver in the country
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Speaker 2: having great success, coming off a season like they had
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Speaker 2: last year, which was just an absolute dumpster fire, not
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Speaker 2: for the fact Wazoo handed them one with a missed
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Speaker 2: chip shot field goal. I mean, they would have been
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Speaker 2: almost winless last season. I mean, and funny, because it's
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Speaker 2: kind of, it's flipped. The two anchor tenants of the
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Speaker 2: Pac-12 team have flipped, and it happens just like that.
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Speaker 2: So then there's more pressure on the new coaching staff.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be very clear. I want to be very, very,
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Speaker 2: very clear with this. I am not giving up on
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Speaker 2: Kirby Moore. I don't think anybody should give up on
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Speaker 2: Kirby Moore. The last thing that this team and this
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Speaker 2: program needs is another massive change. Three coaches in three
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Speaker 2: years is brutal. I mean, it's unsustainable. Even in today's
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Speaker 2: goofy environment, that's not it. Kirby has to make adjustments,
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Speaker 2: and it took him five games to finally get to
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Speaker 2: that point. Let's talk about the offense. Alex, we'll start there.
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Speaker 2: None of us have called plays. It drives me insane
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Speaker 2: when people are like, oh, a play calling. How do
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Speaker 2: you know? But those who do, analysts, Ryan Leaf, Alex Brink,
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Speaker 2: and others that watch it, are questioning some things. So
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Speaker 2: they make the change. Kirby Moore, I believe, successful offensive
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Speaker 2: coordinator at Missouri, probably should have. taken over and should
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Speaker 2: have been the play caller from day one. But first-year
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Speaker 2: head coach, I'm going on too long. But, guys, Mike
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Speaker 2: McDonough was a first-year head coach. He says, I'm not
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Speaker 2: giving up play calling duties on the defense. That's what
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Speaker 2: I do because I've got a great defensive coordinator. It's
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Speaker 2: my other set of eyes. I like the fact Kirby's
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Speaker 2: taking that step. Let's start there, Alex. What are you
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Speaker 2: seeing from that change? What do you think that could
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Speaker 2: help us with?
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Speaker 4: Well, look, I think one thing that Kirby Moore has
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Speaker 4: done great in his career as an offensive coordinator is
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Speaker 4: he can adapt his play calling to personnel, right?
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Speaker 5: And like what he has.
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Speaker 4: So at Fresno with Jake Hainer, they were spreaded out three,
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Speaker 4: four wide drop back pass. I mean, Jake Hainer's an
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Speaker 4: NFL quarterback and they like let that thing ride. When
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Speaker 4: he gets to Missouri in the SEC, he's got a
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Speaker 4: probably first round NFL draft pick at running back and
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Speaker 4: it becomes an athletic quarterback and it becomes more run first.
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Speaker 4: It becomes creative in the run game. you know, they're
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Speaker 4: going to use the screen game. So like, I think
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Speaker 4: he understands that aspect of it. And he also knows
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Speaker 4: where his players are limited. And so he knows how
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Speaker 4: to put them in the best situations possible. And I
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Speaker 4: think that's one thing that like through five weeks that
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Speaker 4: I've noticed is that it's been a lot of the
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Speaker 4: same plays. And I think the idea of that was
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Speaker 4: to keep things simple and make things, you know, try
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Speaker 4: and make it easier for the players. The reality is,
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Speaker 4: the players, it just, it wasn't good for them. There
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Speaker 4: was not the right situations, right? Like the offensive line's
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Speaker 4: probably not going to run outside zone great because they
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Speaker 4: don't reach and run very well.
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Speaker 5: That's just not who they are, right?
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Speaker 4: You're probably not going to be able to throw the
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Speaker 4: ball vertically downfield the way you think because you just
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Speaker 4: don't have enough team speed to like press the ball downfield.
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Speaker 4: But quick game, screen game, you know, downhill run, quarterback run,
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Speaker 4: like there are things that you have seen be successful.
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Speaker 4: And I think you know, you just haven't seen enough
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Speaker 4: of it called. And I think that's where Kirby Moore
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Speaker 4: can probably pretty objectively look at what his personnel can
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Speaker 4: do and get them in the best position possible.
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Speaker 5: That's really what I'm hoping for.
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Speaker 4: Because again, I think there's opportunity there, but you know,
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Speaker 4: it's got, they got to find the consistency, obviously.
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you as a defensive guy, you were
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Speaker 2: on the sideline. You look at it from defensive eyes. How, how,
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Speaker 2: easy has this offense been to defend? All the things
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Speaker 2: Alex just said, if they can't do this or that,
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Speaker 2: but there's other things they can do, but you're watching there.
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Speaker 2: How easy do you think it's been to defend this
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Speaker 2: Cougar offense?
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Speaker 3: And not to bash, because I'm not coming out here bashing,
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Speaker 3: but when I'm watching this, it is the most vanilla
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Speaker 3: thing I've ever seen. I've seen high school schemes that
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Speaker 3: have been better and more dynamic. And as a defensive guy,
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Speaker 3: I'm literally watching and it's just three step drops or
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Speaker 3: it's the same thing every single time. And even the
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Speaker 3: blocking schemes, I already know I'm watching the play that
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Speaker 3: I can just stand them up, shift them up, and
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Speaker 3: I'm attacking this run. So there was nothing that was
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Speaker 3: throwing me off or surprising me at all and could
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Speaker 3: not get this first down and save their life.
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Speaker 2: Well, and that's the limitations that you might have. And
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Speaker 2: I don't want to put it on one guy. Freeman's
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Speaker 2: not like an All-American or anything like that.
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Speaker 5: You can't put it on one guy.
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Speaker 2: But let's go down the quarterback road, Alex. You know,
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Speaker 2: Caden Pinnock, you know, over the years– it's hard to,
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Speaker 2: because over the years, Wazoo's had great quarterback play. Like,
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Speaker 2: they've had great quarterback play. I mean, Alex, you had
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Speaker 2: a cup of coffee in the end. I mean, almost
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Speaker 2: every one of these guys over the last few years
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Speaker 2: has had at least a dance in the NFL, it
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Speaker 2: feels like, right? And now, outside of Kevin Lapina, and
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Speaker 2: that's what we're feeling like, it's the Kevin Lapina show. Like, it's,
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Speaker 2: you know, that's, you know, you know, it just, so,
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Speaker 2: Kirby said yesterday, Alex Brink, MK, and Christopher Bruce with us,
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Speaker 2: Kirby said yesterday that everything's on the, you know, opening
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Speaker 2: it up. Everybody's going to get reps this week. Is
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Speaker 2: there any part of you, Alex, that thinks a quarterback
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Speaker 2: change is necessary? Because there isn't a fan in the
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Speaker 2: world that thinks otherwise. So I'll ask the quarterback. Is
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Speaker 2: a quarterback change necessary?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I've been there, right? I've been
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Speaker 4: a part of that conversation. And I've been on both
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Speaker 4: sides of it, right? I've been the backup that came in.
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Speaker 4: I've been the starter that's gotten benched. I've been all
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Speaker 4: of it, right? And I see all of it. And
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Speaker 4: so I think what I would say is that Kirby
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Speaker 4: Moore's right to open it up and create competition, you know, at,
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Speaker 4: you know, one and four, like it is what it is.
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Speaker 4: And everybody in the room, everybody in the building knows
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Speaker 4: that it's a game of results, regardless of how you
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Speaker 4: get there. And so, you know, I think that idea
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Speaker 4: is totally fine. Like it should light a fire under Caden.
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Speaker 4: It should get the other guys excited. And, and then,
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Speaker 4: you know, the chips fall where they may do. I
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Speaker 4: think it's, do I think Caden should be benched because of,
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Speaker 4: you know, the first five weeks of the season?
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Speaker 5: Not really.
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Speaker 4: Like I don't, I, cause like there's too much going on, um,
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Speaker 4: on that side of the ball to pin.
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Speaker 5: It on one guy.
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Speaker 4: Um, but like, again, if, if for Kirby, if it's like,
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Speaker 4: we just need a fresh start to like get things,
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Speaker 4: see if we can jumpstart things.
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Speaker 5: And like, that's part of football. Like I've been a
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Speaker 5: part of that also, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: And so I would, I, I, prefer to think that
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Speaker 4: with Kirby Moore taking over calling plays, you get yourself
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Speaker 4: in a better position offensively from a play client standpoint.
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Speaker 4: And then Caden can be successful like we've seen him
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Speaker 4: be successful in the first half of Arizona or at
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Speaker 4: times during Kansas State and, you know, things like that,
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Speaker 4: even during the UW game. So, you know, I think
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Speaker 4: everybody's frustrated, rightfully so. And things kind of roll downhill,
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Speaker 4: as we know. And it usually starts with head coach,
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Speaker 4: offense coordinator, quarterback. So it just is what it is.
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Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of other issues there. on
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Speaker 4: that offense. And, you know, I think particularly offensive lines
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Speaker 4: got to find, got to play better. Like you have
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Speaker 4: six guys that came back with playing experience, you know,
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Speaker 4: playing time and they have to find a way to
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Speaker 4: protect and establish the run better. It's just not, and
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Speaker 4: that may be scheme again. Like I don't, that's the
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Speaker 4: part I have a hard time understanding is like, you know, maybe,
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Speaker 4: maybe again, they're not being put in the best position
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Speaker 4: possible to find success. I think that could be a
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Speaker 4: very real thing.
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Speaker 3: And here's what I see on the sideline, on the
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Speaker 3: ground lower. Cause you got that, that view from top two, but,
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Speaker 3: When I'm looking at this, is this offense put in
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Speaker 3: the right position to be successful? Like Penning, should he
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Speaker 3: be dropping straight back, sitting in the pocket? Would he
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Speaker 3: be better off rolling in a bootleg situation where he
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Speaker 3: can use his legs if he has to get out
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Speaker 3: of there or whatnot? But like you were saying, this
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Speaker 3: offense collectively– has not found a rhythm. And at some point,
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Speaker 3: if you guys saw it on Saturday, the crowd was booing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there was really a rock bottom in that
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Speaker 3: situation where you couldn't have gotten any worse on offense.
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Speaker 3: So do you put a Duggard in and go wildcat
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Speaker 3: and figure something out there? Or do you put somebody
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Speaker 3: else in and mix it up or do something? But
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Speaker 3: Penick's reaction to everything, granted, you're frustrated, you're a young guy,
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Speaker 3: you know, missing, and you're probably talking about, you know,
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Speaker 3: missing another one of those interviews and him coming back
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Speaker 3: and apologizing again. I mean, it feels like he's at
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Speaker 3: rock bottom. He has nowhere else to go, but up,
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Speaker 3: but you know, what's the.
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Speaker 5: Next move there?
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Speaker 4: Well, I would say, I would just encourage everybody to,
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Speaker 4: to again, like what happens, especially this, I can't even
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Speaker 4: imagine when I was playing, what it would be like,
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Speaker 4: but you know, I caution everybody that is trying to
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Speaker 4: be like the armchair analyst that like watches a clip
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Speaker 4: and it's like, Oh man, that guy's coming free. He's
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Speaker 4: got to like throw that. And it's like, Oh, that
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Speaker 4: guy's wide open. You know, like, nobody knows what the
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Speaker 4: read is. Like nobody knows what the protection is. So
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Speaker 4: nobody knows really who's at fault. And I think that's
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Speaker 4: always something you got to be really careful of when
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Speaker 4: you're kind of evaling thing from an outside, even for me,
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Speaker 4: like I have the all 22, I watch all the tape.
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Speaker 4: I've watched all the game tape, but like, I don't
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Speaker 4: actually know the exact play call and how it's exactly taught.
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Speaker 5: And supposed to happen. And so I think you gotta
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Speaker 5: be really careful in the judgment there.
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Speaker 4: Now, again, results are all that matter. So ultimately you
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Speaker 4: got to figure out how to get that. One thing
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Speaker 4: I liked about say like last year's offense, which was
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Speaker 4: a little bit times anemic, maybe by design is that
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Speaker 4: they did do things like have packages for Duggar or
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Speaker 4: some trick plays or some like things that mixed it up.
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Speaker 4: So that's where I'm interested to see it. Where's the
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Speaker 4: creativity go in this offense to create whoever's pulling the
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Speaker 4: trigger quarterback. There's gotta be some more creativity. There's gotta
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Speaker 4: be more easy throws on first down. There's gotta be
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Speaker 4: probably less run game, frankly, you know, and be throw
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Speaker 4: first to win.
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, Alex Brink and Crystal Bruce. Yeah, Alex, I
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Speaker 2: was just thinking for you, when you were a quarterback,
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Speaker 2: I mean, the ups and downs that you went through
16:00
Speaker 2: during your years. Can you imagine on social media? I mean,
16:02
Speaker 2: my God. You know, we're all frustrated. I think it
16:07
Speaker 2: was an important year going in. You know, last year,
16:09
Speaker 2: think about it. Last year, there were some similar things.
16:11
Speaker 2: Jackson Potter gets the first starts of the year, and
16:13
Speaker 2: there's a guy in Zeviak House sitting on the sideline.
16:15
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, man, we saw this guy in a bowl game.
16:17
Speaker 2: He did something, right? And they finally made that move.
16:21
Speaker 2: I think that's the thing. If for no other reason that, like,
16:27
Speaker 2: maybe for the betterment of Caden Pinnock, maybe for the
16:29
Speaker 2: betterment of the program, and MKL, you speak to this,
16:32
Speaker 2: the locker room, it's not working. And it's the most
16:35
Speaker 2: important position in sports. It just is. Like, you could
16:38
Speaker 2: talk starting pitchings, goaltenders in hockey, whatever. The most important
16:41
Speaker 2: position in sports is quarterback. If it's not working... If
16:44
Speaker 2: he's not working, if he's– maybe he just– the fact
16:47
Speaker 2: that they haven't even taken him out for a series
16:49
Speaker 2: is mind-boggling to me. Like, that just is absolutely– to me,
16:52
Speaker 2: it's not fair to him. It's not fair– and, MK,
16:55
Speaker 2: I'll throw it to you. I don't think it's fair
16:56
Speaker 2: to the rest of the team. Like, now, maybe the
16:59
Speaker 2: rest of the team's in that locker room going, hey, man,
17:01
Speaker 2: I've watched Eshelman in practice. I've watched Duggar in practice.
17:04
Speaker 2: It ain't going to get better. But it just feels
17:07
Speaker 2: like you need to make a change. Maybe it's not
17:09
Speaker 2: the start. But maybe if you have a series or two,
17:12
Speaker 2: maybe just give one, whoever number two is, we don't
17:14
Speaker 2: even know who number two is because they listed as or, right?
17:16
Speaker 2: It could be Duggar. It could be Eshelman. We don't know.
17:18
Speaker 2: But whoever number two is, it's not like the kid
17:20
Speaker 2: playing in front of him is an All-American. It's not
17:21
Speaker 2: like the kid in front of him, you know, I mean,
17:24
Speaker 2: I'm driving, I'm going nuts looking at the kid at
17:25
Speaker 2: Idaho rally his team for a win against Montana State
17:30
Speaker 2: eight miles away. The guy's a legacy. Why the hell
17:32
Speaker 2: is he not in Pullman? You know, like, what are
17:33
Speaker 2: we doing? But that said, MK, what do you think
17:36
Speaker 2: the locker room's thinking right now?
17:37
Speaker 3: You know, I'll tell you on the sideline, the defense
17:40
Speaker 3: is the heart and soul of this team, right? And
17:43
Speaker 3: Caden Beatty, that guy is an absolute psychopath. If nobody
17:47
Speaker 3: has seen this guy or talked to him or been
17:49
Speaker 3: around him, he's an absolute psychopath, and I love it.
17:51
Speaker 3: Him and Keith Brown are just absolute studs and the
17:54
Speaker 3: leaders of this team. But, you know, I don't think
17:56
Speaker 3: they've lost confidence in pinning, but you can see the
18:00
Speaker 3: slumping and the disappointment. I mean, there's definitely a feeling
18:04
Speaker 3: on the sideline of, like, they need a spark. And
18:07
Speaker 3: like you were saying, it's got to be a mix-up
18:09
Speaker 3: of somebody coming in and doing that. Is it a
18:11
Speaker 3: wildcat with, you know, a dugger or whatever, right? But
18:16
Speaker 3: something has to change because, you know, Pinnock does look defeated.
18:20
Speaker 3: I mean, the look in his eye was just pure defeat.
18:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that, listen, the adults in the room,
18:25
Speaker 2: I'm going to just say this. I don't want to
18:26
Speaker 2: put you guys in a bad position. I'll just say it.
18:28
Speaker 2: The adults in the room got to do a better
18:29
Speaker 2: job with him. And with everything. It is such a
18:33
Speaker 2: bad look. Alex, I don't know if you ever were hit.
18:36
Speaker 2: Bill Stevens did a great job for decades at Wazoo.
18:39
Speaker 2: You can't just keep hiding the team leader and not
18:42
Speaker 2: having no offensive players available after the game. That is
18:44
Speaker 2: such a bad look. In today's college football, these guys
18:48
Speaker 2: are different than when you guys played. Whether it's 250,000, 1,000,
18:51
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. They're basically getting– they're paid. Like, you've
18:56
Speaker 2: got to face the music. You've got to be accountable,
18:58
Speaker 2: especially if you're the quarterback. And for two times for
19:00
Speaker 2: him not to show up– and I don't think it's
19:02
Speaker 2: on him. I'm guessing it's on– they're, like, protecting him.
19:05
Speaker 2: That ain't working either. You've got to face the music.
19:07
Speaker 2: You know, Washington did that once this year, I think,
19:10
Speaker 2: with DeMond.
19:10
Speaker 1: It's dumb.
19:11
Speaker 2: Like, put him out there. By the way, it could
19:14
Speaker 2: be worse. It could be John Mateer. How's life for
19:16
Speaker 2: you down in Norman right now? So it's hard all
19:19
Speaker 2: the way around. Let's look ahead. Alex, this game coming up.
19:25
Speaker 2: You mentioned the offensive line, and I think that's the key.
19:28
Speaker 2: Running the football has been a massive challenge. And, God,
19:31
Speaker 2: weren't we all excited? You get the three guys back.
19:33
Speaker 2: You bring them all back, right, especially the top two.
19:36
Speaker 2: I mean, all due respect to Pulaski, it's Woods and Voorhees.
19:40
Speaker 2: I feel like there's times I see a pretty good
19:41
Speaker 2: pocket in terms of passing, and maybe no one's coming open.
19:45
Speaker 2: You're watching all 22, but running the football and you
19:48
Speaker 2: guys kind of talked about it. Running the football has
19:50
Speaker 2: some massive limitations. That's a disappointment too, because you brought
19:53
Speaker 2: all these guys back and all six of them, right?
19:57
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:57
Speaker 4: I mean, that's, that's the part that's really hard for
19:59
Speaker 4: me to watch. I mean, I think there's like, there
20:00
Speaker 4: was a sequence in the game. I think it was
20:02
Speaker 4: like the second quarter where, you know, coogs run like
20:06
Speaker 4: a naked they throw it to trey leckman he gets
20:08
Speaker 4: nine yards you're in second one it's like oh we're
20:10
Speaker 4: in like the best that that's it we did it
20:12
Speaker 4: and then like you go and run like you know
20:16
Speaker 4: g guard halfback counter guard h back counter and it's
20:20
Speaker 4: like centered misses and maxwell woods instead of just staying
20:24
Speaker 4: straight ahead and just picking up zero or taking a
20:26
Speaker 4: one yard loss bounces outside and loses nine and now
20:29
Speaker 4: you're in third and ten and it was like I mean,
20:31
Speaker 4: those are things like you can talk about play calling
20:33
Speaker 4: all you want.
20:33
Speaker 5: It's like, what do you do there? You know what
20:35
Speaker 5: I mean?
20:35
Speaker 4: Like that's and so it's like things like that, that,
20:39
Speaker 4: you know, they've been behind the chains, run the football ton.
20:41
Speaker 4: You see the you often this is what I was
20:44
Speaker 4: talking about. Like, is this team built to run wide zone?
20:46
Speaker 4: And so many things is oftentimes like the running backs
20:48
Speaker 4: are good. contacts being made on them at or near
20:51
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, they're not getting to the second level.
20:53
Speaker 4: So like a guy like Kirby, that's like a one
20:56
Speaker 4: cut kind of vertical run back, like never get, he's
20:59
Speaker 4: chopping his feet in the backfield.
21:00
Speaker 5: He never gets to see that speed, like get going.
21:03
Speaker 2: Right.
21:03
Speaker 4: And, and Maxwell Woods, who's a little shiftier, he needs
21:06
Speaker 4: to be able to see that first cut so he
21:08
Speaker 4: can get up in there. And it's like, he never
21:09
Speaker 4: sees the cut. And so, um, you know, again, like I,
21:12
Speaker 4: some of that for sure is scheme. Some of that's
21:14
Speaker 4: for sure coaching and some of that's for sure execution.
21:16
Speaker 4: It's kind of all of it.
21:17
Speaker 1: Right.
21:17
Speaker 4: And everybody wants to find the one thing that goes
21:19
Speaker 4: together for how offensive football works. Like it's 11, there's
21:22
Speaker 4: 11 bodies out there that everything has to go right. Um,
21:25
Speaker 4: for it to be a good one. And, and right
21:27
Speaker 4: now you're not, you rarely are getting all 11 things
21:29
Speaker 4: going your way.
21:31
Speaker 5: Okay.
21:32
Speaker 2: For sure.
21:33
Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:33
Speaker 5: All right.
21:34
Speaker 2: Let's, let's, uh, let's wrap it up with this fellas. It's, uh,
21:37
Speaker 2: You go to Logan on Friday. That's a team that's
21:39
Speaker 2: struggling as well. A little surprised with Bronco there coaching.
21:43
Speaker 2: It's been an interesting year. A year of transition. We've
21:47
Speaker 2: had two years of exhibition games. Now we've got a
21:48
Speaker 2: year of transition. Some are flourishing. Boise State's picked up
21:52
Speaker 2: where they left off. Oregon State, I don't know what
21:54
Speaker 2: the hell. Whatever's going on there, give them credit. Give
21:58
Speaker 2: the Beavs credit. I'm a little surprised by Utah State's
22:01
Speaker 2: struggle just with the coaching acumen there, but Alex, on
22:05
Speaker 2: Friday night, what do you want to see? Let's assume
22:07
Speaker 2: Pinnock plays. Do you want to see somebody else come
22:10
Speaker 2: in or if he struggles at all? And I'm not
22:12
Speaker 2: saying quick hook one series, but what do you envision
22:15
Speaker 2: seeing and hoping to see on Friday?
22:18
Speaker 4: Offensively, I just want to see a more cohesive plan.
22:20
Speaker 4: I want to see it tie together. That's the thing
22:23
Speaker 4: about offense. Oftentimes when I'm watching great offensive play going,
22:27
Speaker 4: I can kind of see where it's going.
22:29
Speaker 5: Like, oh, we're throwing... we're throwing something to the right
22:32
Speaker 5: sideline to stretch the defense. We throw it to the
22:34
Speaker 5: left sideline and stretch the defense.
22:35
Speaker 4: Then boom, it's a downhill run that, you know, you're,
22:37
Speaker 4: you're gashing a team when they're not, you know, right.
22:39
Speaker 4: Then you see a play that happens a couple of
22:41
Speaker 4: times over. And the next thing you know, there's a
22:42
Speaker 4: double move off of it, or there's a reverse off
22:44
Speaker 4: of it. So like, I want to see the cohesion
22:47
Speaker 4: and not just like a grab bag of plays that
22:49
Speaker 4: are like, we're hoping works. And so whoever's playing quarterback,
22:53
Speaker 4: like if you see that, if you see that cohesion,
22:55
Speaker 4: if you see more first down pass, if you see
22:57
Speaker 4: more first and second down screen plays, like.
22:59
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be successful.
23:02
Speaker 4: That's really what I want to see, because to MK's point,
23:04
Speaker 4: the defense is doing the best they can with the
23:07
Speaker 4: situations they're giving.
23:08
Speaker 5: And they really are the heart and soul.
23:09
Speaker 4: And like you want to you want them to feel good,
23:11
Speaker 4: have some opportunities where, you know, they get some short
23:14
Speaker 4: fields and, you know, and or long fields that they
23:16
Speaker 4: can keep a defense or an offense pinned back. And
23:19
Speaker 4: so I'd like to see that level of complimentary football.
23:22
Speaker 3: And that's a big thing, too, because the game actually
23:24
Speaker 3: changes right now. I mean, that was the best defense
23:27
Speaker 3: I've seen. I think this is the first time seven
23:29
Speaker 3: tackles for loss. I mean, they were in every bad
23:32
Speaker 3: situation they could. And think about this. If you're always down,
23:35
Speaker 3: you don't really get the chance to pin your ears
23:36
Speaker 3: back and get more sections. Like, why do we not
23:38
Speaker 3: have more sections?
23:39
Speaker 5: Like, well, the other team's always up. You know what
23:41
Speaker 5: I mean? So defensively, they've been playing well.
23:44
Speaker 3: I do like Alex was saying, if there's any kind
23:46
Speaker 3: of cohesions, first down scoring points, Defense and special teams
23:49
Speaker 3: should never score more points than the offense, right? So
23:52
Speaker 3: if we can get that turned around, it's going to
23:53
Speaker 3: be a totally different situation.
23:55
Speaker 2: And I like Kirby. It took six weeks. I like
23:58
Speaker 2: the fact that he's taken over the offense. I think
24:00
Speaker 2: that's a good thing. It should have been sooner, but
24:03
Speaker 2: it's now. Here's the beautiful thing you got going for you.
24:07
Speaker 2: You got a great defensive coordinator. He shouldn't have to
24:11
Speaker 2: worry about that and doesn't need to worry about that
24:12
Speaker 2: side of the ball because Trent Bray can just handle that.
24:14
Speaker 2: You go do your thing and It's kind of an
24:16
Speaker 2: NFL model in a sense, right? You've got a defensive
24:19
Speaker 2: head coach, and Mike McDonald is watching defense a hell
24:23
Speaker 2: of a lot more than he's watching offense when we're
24:24
Speaker 2: watching training camp and practices. So let's see what happens.
24:27
Speaker 2: Are you flying down there, MK? I mean, I don't
24:30
Speaker 2: know if people don't know you're a pilot. You could
24:31
Speaker 2: fly into Logan if you want.
24:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you knew this or not,
24:34
Speaker 3: but Logan's not too far away from me.
24:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hopefully you get down there and get him
24:38
Speaker 2: going again. Alex, tell us about the shoe brand.
24:41
Speaker 4: Yeah, check out osaga.com. Family shoe brand my brother and
24:44
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Speaker 4: super comfortable, really great quality.
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Speaker 5: Osaka, O-S-A-G-A.com.
24:54
Speaker 2: MK, sell me a house. Give me a mortgage.
24:56
Speaker 3: If you're looking for a HELOC, if you're looking to
24:58
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25:01
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25:04
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25:10
Speaker 1: You're the man.
25:11
Speaker 2: Guys, go get one. Let's hope it's a better conversation
25:13
Speaker 2: next Tuesday. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. Go Cougs.
25:15
Speaker 5: Go Cougs, baby.
25:16
Speaker 2: That's Alex M.K. We'll come back. Much more to come.
25:19
Speaker 2: John Lund coming up at 2 o'clock, 93.3 KJR FM.
25:20
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Alex, M.K. Somebody text me. Alex
25:29
Speaker 2: will never blame the quarterback. Nah, he's a quarterback. This
25:31
Speaker 2: is a club. Those guys are all in a club. Yeah,
25:33
Speaker 2: that's the way it works, right?
25:35
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:35
Speaker 7: What would you expect anything else?
25:38
Speaker 2: I just.
25:42
Speaker 2: We talked yesterday about college football and paying guys and
25:44
Speaker 2: all that. There's another thing in college football now, too,
25:47
Speaker 2: that I think it's changed the dynamics across the country.
25:52
Speaker 2: And that is, and I mentioned this with those guys
25:54
Speaker 2: a minute ago, you have a situation now, Ash, where
25:58
Speaker 2: I don't know if college basketball, probably the same way,
26:02
Speaker 2: but certainly college football, you want instant gratification and you
26:05
Speaker 2: expect it because there are cases, Kirk Cignetti screwed it
26:09
Speaker 2: up for everybody at Indiana. Instant success.
26:12
Speaker 1: Yes.
26:13
Speaker 2: Yeah. And not just instant success with a traditional program. No,
26:19
Speaker 2: one that had never been a winner in football.
26:20
Speaker 1: Right.
26:21
Speaker 2: And they have a great first year. Second year, you
26:23
Speaker 2: win a national championship. Third year, you're undefeated in top
26:25
Speaker 2: five again. But then you look around the rest of
26:29
Speaker 2: the country, what Summerall's done down in Florida up until now.
26:35
Speaker 2: the Mizzou game, notwithstanding, he's turned that thing, he's got
26:38
Speaker 2: that thing back on track. Now, it's a traditional power.
26:40
Speaker 2: You've got the Florida recruiting base, all that, but still,
26:42
Speaker 2: you get the point. What Jamarcus Shepard, former UW assistant,
26:46
Speaker 2: has done at Oregon State, remarkable. The good news for
26:50
Speaker 2: anybody that's struggling in one year, there was not a
26:54
Speaker 2: worse roster or program in the country than Oregon State
26:58
Speaker 2: last year. Like, they were awful. Now, I'm exaggerating a
27:01
Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, sure, you can find some worse
27:03
Speaker 2: programs in the MAAC and American and Sunbelt and places
27:06
Speaker 2: like that. But you get the point. Like, Oregon State
27:07
Speaker 2: was awful last year. Yeah. Fired the coach partway through
27:10
Speaker 2: the season, who's a great defensive coordinator but not a
27:14
Speaker 2: good head coach. And now they've won one recruiting cycle,
27:19
Speaker 2: one new head coach, snap of the fingers, and they're good.
27:22
Speaker 2: And they've got probably the best freshman in the country
27:25
Speaker 2: at wide receiver.
27:26
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:26
Speaker 2: Changes quickly. But see, everyone's expectations now. Like, if.
27:32
Speaker 2: Unless you have a contract like Lincoln Riley at USC,
27:35
Speaker 2: you're not going to get fired. Right. I mean, he's still,
27:38
Speaker 2: that guy's so lucky. He still could, right? Like he
27:40
Speaker 2: could still get fired. I mean, I'll contribute towards it.
27:42
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Would you rather contribute towards your
27:46
Speaker 2: coach getting fired and paying him out or contribute towards
27:48
Speaker 2: an 18 year old kid coming in to play quarterback
27:51
Speaker 2: that you know nothing about? Fire the coach. Fire the coach.
27:55
Speaker 2: But that's, You know, if Lincoln gets fired, whoever would
27:58
Speaker 2: come into USC would be expected to win, not in
28:00
Speaker 2: a couple of years when you have a couple of
28:01
Speaker 2: recruiting classes. No, you're expected to win today, right now.
28:05
Speaker 4: Yes.
28:05
Speaker 5: Right now, today.
28:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no patience.
28:07
Speaker 5: Yeah.
28:07
Speaker 2: You know, when people throw that about Jed at UW. Well,
28:11
Speaker 2: you know, he took over a tough situation at UW
28:14
Speaker 2: when Kalen left. And I'll argue that one. Yes, he
28:18
Speaker 2: lost Michael Penix and Roma Dunze.
28:20
Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
28:21
Speaker 2: And that was a big loss. McMillan, et cetera. And
28:23
Speaker 2: a very good offensive line.
28:24
Speaker 5: Yes.
28:25
Speaker 2: That happens every year in college football.
28:27
Speaker 1: Yeah.
28:28
Speaker 2: My argument to Jed in that situation is Jed took
28:31
Speaker 2: over a really hard situation in Arizona and turned it
28:34
Speaker 2: around in a year or two and got it going.
28:37
Speaker 7: Well, it doesn't seem that we're going.
28:39
Speaker 2: In the right direction. Right. And at UW, though, he
28:41
Speaker 2: takes over a program that just played for a national championship.
28:44
Speaker 2: Played for a national championship.
28:45
Speaker 1: Yes, correct.
28:46
Speaker 7: That should not be a hard job. No, it should
28:48
Speaker 7: not be hard to get people to go there. We
28:50
Speaker 7: were just in the national championship. Although people say, well,
28:52
Speaker 7: you just lost your coach and all these players.
28:55
Speaker 2: Understandable. But look, we have what it takes to get there.
28:58
Speaker 2: I wonder how different it would be if Austin Mack
29:00
Speaker 2: would have stayed here. Because they wanted to get Noah
29:02
Speaker 2: Fafita to come, and he didn't. He stayed at Arizona.
29:05
Speaker 2: He and Ted McMillan stayed at Arizona. If those two
29:08
Speaker 2: guys would have come to UW, they probably would have
29:10
Speaker 2: had more success year one. Probably wouldn't have lost the
29:12
Speaker 2: Apple Cup at Lumen Field. with those two. Instead, he
29:16
Speaker 2: gets a quarterback from, you know, Mississippi State that was
29:21
Speaker 2: okay in the Mike Leach system, but that was it. Yep.
29:25
Speaker 2: DeMond's there hanging around, you know, as a freshman who
29:29
Speaker 2: looked great in the bowl game. But if you would
29:31
Speaker 2: have got Fafita and Ted McMillan, maybe you're, maybe you
29:33
Speaker 2: do able to kind of continue the momentum along. But
29:35
Speaker 2: the point is this, you're expected to win day one. Right.
29:38
Speaker 2: In college sports now, because players can move, you can
29:42
Speaker 2: flip your roster, you can pay guys, you're expected to
29:45
Speaker 2: win year one, period, end of story. And there's no
29:48
Speaker 2: waiting anymore. Nobody wants to wait. Like I, like I said,
29:50
Speaker 2: I don't want to, there's, Wazoo's not moving on from
29:53
Speaker 2: Kirby Moore. There's, there's like close to 0% chance that
29:56
Speaker 2: would happen. they're not going to go four coaches in
29:58
Speaker 2: four years. No, that would be a, it would be
30:00
Speaker 2: a bad move.
30:00
Speaker 5: Yeah.
30:01
Speaker 2: But I know there's people that would like to see that. Yeah.
30:05
Speaker 5: Right.
30:05
Speaker 7: Cause there's no patience, but here's the thing too, is
30:07
Speaker 7: it shouldn't just be on the coaches because there shouldn't,
30:09
Speaker 7: if you're not having any patience with the coaching staff, well,
30:12
Speaker 7: you've got all these new players. You should be, you
30:14
Speaker 7: should also not have the patience with the players, right?
30:16
Speaker 7: Because if you're skilled and you're getting paid, you better
30:18
Speaker 7: come and you better perform.
30:20
Speaker 2: Yes.
30:21
Speaker 1: Yes.
30:22
Speaker 2: You guys want this money. That's what we talked about yesterday.
30:24
Speaker 2: I heard the promo playing. That's true. It's like the
30:26
Speaker 2: expectations now. You're getting paid. You're paid like a professional.
30:29
Speaker 2: Be one. Be one. Yeah. Play like a– and give
30:32
Speaker 2: us instant results.
30:33
Speaker 7: Exactly.
30:34
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30:36
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30:37
Speaker 2: a Bento box? It's a Bento box. It's a cracking
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Speaker 2: ticket Tuesday as well. We've got Lund coming up at
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Speaker 2: 2 o'clock today. That'll be fun. Talking all things 49ers
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Speaker 2: coming up on 93.3 KGRFM.
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Speaker 1: Now, your daily look at the National Hockey League and
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Speaker 1: the Seattle Kraken with Ian Furness.
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Speaker 2: All right, Daily Power Play, you're home for the Kraken night,
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Speaker 2: 3.3 KJR FM. Ian Furness with you as we roll on.
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Speaker 2: It's Kraken Ticket Tuesday. We're giving away tickets. I think, Ashley,
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Speaker 2: you've given away tickets for hours one and two so far?
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Speaker 1: Correct.
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Speaker 2: We've got one more. I should mention, yeah, one more
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Speaker 2: sometime in the 2 o'clock hour. You'll hear that little
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Speaker 2: sounder play. You're the 10th caller, 206-286-9595. And Ashley will
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Speaker 2: give you tickets to the Next home game after tonight,
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Speaker 2: that'll be on October 20th against Detroit Red Wings when
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Speaker 2: the Kraken return home from a road trip. So listen
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Speaker 2: for those tickets, the ticket giveaway, Kraken Ticket Tuesday here
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Speaker 2: on your home for the Kraken, 93.3 KDRFM. Quick note,
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Speaker 2: Ashley has the pick today for Factor Fiction coming up
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Speaker 2: at 2.35. Stay tuned for that. We'll get your text
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Speaker 2: at 49451 on the Tacoma Dodge text line. Talkbacks are
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Speaker 2: welcome as well. Red microphone, iHeartRadio app. John Lund at
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Speaker 2: 2 o'clock. Bento, here now. What do you call it?
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Speaker 2: Bento box on a lunch day? Bento box, yeah.
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Speaker 6: You are living it down as one of the hardest
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Speaker 6: working men in show business. I love the Brian Burke
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Speaker 6: tie around your collar look.
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Speaker 2: You know why I do that? Because there was a
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Speaker 2: game last year I forgot a tie. I've been there.
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Speaker 2: So I had to make sure I just put it
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Speaker 2: around the neck now. Actually, it was two years ago,
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Speaker 2: my first year. I just solved that, by the way.
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Speaker 2: How'd I solve the missing tie?
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Speaker 7: Oh.
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Speaker 2: I borrowed one from over at Fox 13. There's like
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Speaker 2: a zillion ties that are ugly and old. And I
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Speaker 2: just popped over and grabbed one of those. That's perfect.
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Speaker 2: To do a show on a different television station.
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Speaker 6: Eleven years ago, my first WHL game, we had a
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Speaker 6: two-game trip in Prince George, and I forgot to pack ties.
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Speaker 6: Ran right down to the mall about two miles away
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Speaker 6: and barely made it back on the bus.
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Speaker 2: Got yourself a $ 2 tie. As good as you can get.
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Speaker 2: So now, before I leave the house, I put this
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Speaker 2: on to make sure I don't forget it. Yeah, Brian Burke,
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Speaker 2: the famous Brian Burke tie. I will tie it later. Okay, tonight,
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Speaker 2: Kraken taking on the Vegas Golden Knights. We know the
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Speaker 2: Kraken could beat the Calgary Flames. They've done so by
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Speaker 2: a score of combined 12-2, 6-1 both games. They lost
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Speaker 2: 3-1 on Saturday with an empty netter against Edmonton, a
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Speaker 2: game they played well at. A little barometer game tonight
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Speaker 2: against a team that's also 2-1 like they are, losing
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Speaker 2: at home to Anaheim, beating Vancouver on Sunday night. What
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Speaker 2: are you expecting?
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Speaker 6: Well, they have to win the battle at the front
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Speaker 6: of the net because it's going to be a little
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Speaker 6: bit harder compared to Sunday. And compared to Thursday, Vegas
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Speaker 6: has progressively become, I don't want to say worse, but
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Speaker 6: a little bit less challenging. They lost Pavel Dorofeev. That
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Speaker 6: core is getting older as well. And you talk to
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Speaker 6: some folks around the Vegas area, there's still some kind
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Speaker 6: of some curiosity of like, we had Tortorella for about
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Speaker 6: two months and bye-bye.
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Speaker 5: Why?
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Speaker 6: So there's still kind of a feeling out process right
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Speaker 6: now with their new head coach, Ryan Craig. But, uh,
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Speaker 6: I mean, for, for the Kraken to come in right now, Ian,
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Speaker 6: I mean, you've seen this here for three games, you're
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Speaker 6: beating a team that you should be beating as well. And,
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Speaker 6: you know, we talked to guys in the room here
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Speaker 6: earlier today with Vince Dunn, Freddie Goodrow, the confidence is
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Speaker 6: a sky high right now.
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Speaker 2: People ask a lot, uh, you know, like about the
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Speaker 2: season coming up and it's been a disappointing last three years, uh,
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Speaker 2: frankly speaking after the playoff appearance in year two, I, I,
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Speaker 2: I know we're only three games in my eyes. Tell
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Speaker 2: me one thing. Uh, Time will tell if it's true.
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Speaker 2: They're a better hockey team this year. Seattle is a
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Speaker 2: better hockey team this year. They're making plays. They're faster.
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Speaker 2: They're more fun to watch. They're playing. They're harder to
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Speaker 2: play against, but they're faster. They're playing faster. Now, you're
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Speaker 2: going to give up some opportunities at the other end.
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Speaker 2: And against a team like this, it's far more skilled
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Speaker 2: than Calgary. That can be a little dangerous, but They
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Speaker 2: did play the same way against Edmonton, only gave up
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Speaker 2: two goals. I don't care if the empty netter doesn't matter,
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Speaker 2: but it gave up two goals, and one of them
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Speaker 2: was a fluky bounce. So I don't know. I like
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Speaker 2: what I've seen so far. I think this team has
34:46
Speaker 2: got a lot to prove to the market. I think
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Speaker 2: they've got a lot to prove to the fans, especially
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Speaker 2: the casual fans listening right now that are not diehards.
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Speaker 2: You've got a lot to prove. But I think so
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Speaker 2: far they've done it. This is a good barometer game
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Speaker 2: tonight to see what they can do against Vegas. Joey's
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Speaker 2: going to get the start. He played great the other night.
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Speaker 2: It's a 6-1 game. You're like, your goalie played great? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he played great. In a 6-1 game, he played great.
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Speaker 2: In fact, he's played well in both those games so
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Speaker 2: far this year.
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Speaker 6: I go through some boxes to kind of check off
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Speaker 6: mentally in the first period as, you know, I'm off
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Speaker 6: the air, you're off the air usually. Just to kind
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Speaker 6: of think, okay, is this going right for them? Is
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Speaker 6: this going right for them? You know, you're looking at,
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Speaker 6: you know, how they're controlling the puck. How much time
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Speaker 6: are they spending maybe back in their own zone?
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Speaker 5: With Joey.
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Speaker 2: by late first period, you're like, okay, yeah, he's settled.
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Speaker 2: He's all dialed in. Early season Joey's good. It's just
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Speaker 2: you can't run him through the wall.
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Speaker 6: You have to now really manage these guys appropriately because
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Speaker 6: guess who's got the most travel miles in the NHL
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Speaker 6: this season?
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Speaker 2: They play in this city. Is that because of Finland
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Speaker 2: or is that just overall?
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Speaker 6: A little bit, but even taking out the Finland trip,
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Speaker 6: they would still have the third most travel miles in
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Speaker 6: the NHL.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 6: You have to manage that. both Joey Decord and Philip
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Speaker 6: Grubauer appropriately. I mentioned this earlier. If you're going to
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Speaker 6: the game tonight or any game this year on a
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Speaker 6: Monday through a Thursday, it's a new, for the most part,
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Speaker 6: start time. There might be a couple national games where
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Speaker 6: it's later, but by and large, 6.40 start times. So
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Speaker 6: 6.30 on the air for TV, 6.
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Speaker 2: O'clock on the air for radio.
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Speaker 6: 6 o'clock on the air for radio. We are going
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Speaker 6: deep into the trenches, deep into the weeds. Softy loves it.
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Speaker 6: He loves the fact he's off early. You're welcome, Soft. 6.40.
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Speaker 6: get in the building. If you're going to the game,
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Speaker 6: get to the building.
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Speaker 2: I like it. And I know you've probably talked to
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Speaker 2: people too. They talked to the Mariners. They did their research.
36:34
Speaker 2: Mariners have been doing the 640 games for a couple
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Speaker 2: of years now. Seems to work well. Fans are kind
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Speaker 2: of getting used to it, buying into it, getting there.
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Speaker 2: It'd be interesting, maybe a little thin to start the game.
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Speaker 2: People are still trying to get used to it, but
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Speaker 2: I like 640 myself.
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Speaker 6: I don't mind getting home earlier, but I think it's
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Speaker 6: a smart move just to kind of make sure that
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Speaker 6: you're catering to as many families as you can. I mean, granted,
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Speaker 6: it is a school night. It is a work night here,
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Speaker 6: but Let's put it this way. Just speaking from experience,
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Speaker 6: I've got two young boys at home. What's the likelier
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Speaker 6: time slot that you can convince a family to get
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Speaker 6: out to a game? Drop the puck at 7-10 or
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Speaker 6: drop the puck at roughly 6-40? 6-40 is a much,
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Speaker 6: much more easy time slot to deal with.
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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. All right. What do you got tonight,
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Speaker 2: 6 o'clock?
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Speaker 6: Oh, we got a one-on-one with Freddie Goudreau. We'll hear
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Speaker 6: from Lane Lambert and I think also get into some
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Speaker 6: really interesting comments from Vince Dunn. He mentioned just about
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Speaker 6: How guys are concerned maybe about trying to get pucks
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Speaker 6: on that but doing it in a smart way. Shot
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Speaker 6: volume was a really, really big topic here for this team.
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Speaker 6: Are they shooting the puck enough, but are they getting
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Speaker 6: enough quality shots on that? You just don't want to
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Speaker 6: shoot it just to shoot it here.
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Speaker 5: Vince Dunn?
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I love Vince.
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Speaker 5: He's great.
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Speaker 2: He's great. All right, that's Mike Benton. You have the
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Speaker 2: TV call also.
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Speaker 5: I am on the TV call.
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Speaker 2: Have a great show.
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Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Yeah, Chris Egan's sitting on the desk tonight.
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Speaker 2: They upgraded the studio host. Downgraded him play-by-play, upgraded the
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Speaker 2: studio host tonight. You'll be great. That's kind of what happened.
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Speaker 2: All right, that's Mike Benton, 6 o'clock. He'll be right
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Speaker 2: with you for the Kraken pregame on the Kraken Audio Network.
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Speaker 2: He's the captain. I'm Ian. John Lund. God help us.
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Speaker 2: Coming up next.