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Mac & Bone Show - Anish Shroff Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, Mac and Bone with you here on a
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  Speaker 1: Thursday morning radio show. Six NFL preseason games tonight. I
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  Speaker 1: know it's preseason, but it's something. It's something. And then
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  Speaker 1: of course on Saturday at one o'clock it will be
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  Speaker 1: the Bills and the Panthers starters versus starters, and you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to hear our next man, our next
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  Speaker 1: guest on the call, doing usually the radio voice, but
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  Speaker 1: of course during the preseason does the games on TV.
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  Speaker 1: And he is a niche roff and he joins us
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  Speaker 1: here on the Mac and Bone Show to preview this
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  Speaker 1: Panther team, a niche thanks for coming on, man, how
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  Speaker 1: you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great. It's fun to hear the last conversation
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  Speaker 2: because I've gotten eight year old who's coming to training
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  Speaker 2: camp practice today. And I keep waiting, I keep waiting
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  Speaker 2: when the poop and the fart jokes will get old.
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  Speaker 2: And clearly, you guys are a great example. It never does.
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  Speaker 1: No, my wife tells me all the time. You guys
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  Speaker 1: are just big kids. You never matureiche oh man, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: all right in Niche. Well, hey, if your eight year
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  Speaker 1: old listens, I think we're on his level.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, you're definitely on her level. You are definitely
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  Speaker 2: on her level. Where's the thing?
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  Speaker 3: So amne?
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  Speaker 2: So the apple doesn't go.
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  Speaker 3: For oh man a niche XL.
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  Speaker 4: Seems like he's having a great camp here so far
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  Speaker 4: from what we see. You're out there quite a bit
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  Speaker 4: watching where where have you seen the most improvement so far?
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  Speaker 3: For we get here in camp fluidity?
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  Speaker 2: He just looks more fluid. He's catching the ball with
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  Speaker 2: his hands more. And I'll let you in a conversation
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  Speaker 2: that Steve Smith actually brought up when we did the
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  Speaker 2: Training Camp Live show on Monday. I thought he made
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  Speaker 2: a great point. He said, as a receiver, when you
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  Speaker 2: start to lose confidence, the first thing to go with
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  Speaker 2: your hands, because you're now overthinking about catching the ball
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  Speaker 2: and you're using your body and sometimes you have to
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  Speaker 2: break that. And the coaches sort of privately have you mentioned, hey,
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  Speaker 2: if we can kind of get him to catch the
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  Speaker 2: ball with his hands and he can become a yack guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's fast, he's big, he's strong, he's physical. If he's
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  Speaker 2: not giving the defense that extra beat to recover because
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  Speaker 2: he's using his body, all of a sudden, he becomes
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  Speaker 2: a real weapon in the yacht game. And that's an
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  Speaker 2: area that the Panthers have really emphasized in the offseason.
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  Speaker 2: They want more yards after catch. It's about ball placement
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  Speaker 2: from the quarterback, but it's also things that the receivers
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  Speaker 2: can do. So listen for Xavier Leaguet. We all said
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  Speaker 2: it a few weeks back, this is a big camp.
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  Speaker 2: This was when Chris Brasel was a part of the
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  Speaker 2: equation with Brazl Hurt. Now he's got an opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: run and be that number three guy and he's kind
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  Speaker 2: of penciled in as that number three guys. It's promising.
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  Speaker 2: Now we need to see it happen in games and
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  Speaker 2: hopefully it can.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, kat He's one of the guys we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: looking at on Saturday. I want to talk about te
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  Speaker 1: Mac too. We saw you, Fiddy, and I saw you
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  Speaker 1: at a practice yesterday. Tea Mac had another big day.
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  Speaker 1: And when I look at him, you know, I've heard
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  Speaker 1: him talk a niche about putting on that twenty pounds
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  Speaker 1: or so, but man, when you see it up close
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  Speaker 1: in personal, it's like, man, he looks different, and I
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  Speaker 1: just think it's going to help him with contested catches.
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  Speaker 1: It's just playing through contact. I mean, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think he's looked like so far in camp?
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  Speaker 2: He had a tremendous catch one on one with Mike
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  Speaker 2: Jackson's raped all over him yesterday, and I think that's
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  Speaker 2: the one you guys might be talking about here. Again,
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  Speaker 2: the contested catch skill set was a big part of
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  Speaker 2: his calling card when he came out of Arizona. And
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  Speaker 2: now you're adding a little more size, a little more girth,
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  Speaker 2: and he's again a guy who's big and physical to
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  Speaker 2: begin with. You amplify that and then you know, we
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  Speaker 2: talk about fluidity with legeded. That was the one thing
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  Speaker 2: about me millan that just jumped off the page a
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  Speaker 2: year ago. He's just smooth, I mean, just a smooth operator.
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  Speaker 2: He might not be the fastest guy, but he does everything.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm not comparing him to Jerry Rice, but
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Rice wasn't the fastest guy, but he was so
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  Speaker 2: smooth and he was so precise. And there's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of that with Ttero McMillan. Where he catches the ball,
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  Speaker 2: it's a quick tuck, it's a turn, he's in his motion,
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  Speaker 2: he's running. He can get upfield. I think again, he's
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  Speaker 2: got a chance now to break into that next tier
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  Speaker 2: of wide receivers in the NFL, and by the end
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  Speaker 2: of season two, I think he's got a chance that
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  Speaker 2: the league will know outside of the NFC South. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he made a name for himself last year, but I
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  Speaker 2: think he's got a chance to really be kind of
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  Speaker 2: one of those guys that people around the league. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's an a one, bona fide alpha receiver who could
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  Speaker 2: play for anybody.
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  Speaker 4: That's the voice of Anie Shros the radio voice and
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  Speaker 4: TV voice in the preseason for the Panthers and of
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  Speaker 4: course ESPN all year long as well a niche. What
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  Speaker 4: do you think of the Darren Waller signing that happened
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  Speaker 4: last night and how much of a factor do you
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  Speaker 4: think he can be for this offense.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's fascinating because let's be honest, right the
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  Speaker 2: tight end position was a question mark. It wasn't one
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  Speaker 2: that was addressed in free agency, it wasn't one that
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  Speaker 2: was addressed in the draft. Mitchell Evans kind of seems
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  Speaker 2: to be that number one guy right now. I think
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  Speaker 2: we know what Tommy Tremble is and he's a solid
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  Speaker 2: number two. Guy JT. Sanders had some promises a rookie
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  Speaker 2: had that neck injury, hasn't really been the same since
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  Speaker 2: was up and down last year. So now you bring
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  Speaker 2: in a guy who's played a lot of football, who's
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  Speaker 2: had some productive seasons. How much is left in the
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  Speaker 2: tank That is a very real question. And how healthy
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  Speaker 2: can Darren Waller be That is a very real question.
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  Speaker 2: But again, he gives you a guy who can stretch
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  Speaker 2: the field vertically, make plays through the air, give you
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  Speaker 2: a legitimate pass threat in the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it's two things. One, I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: signal to the offense, Hey, we need another pass catcher
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  Speaker 2: in that tight end room. Two, it's a signal to
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  Speaker 2: the other guys in that room. Hey, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to work for your spots.
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  Speaker 1: It really feels like you mentioned Evans and Tremble. Both
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  Speaker 1: those guys are relied on to block so much. This
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  Speaker 1: feels like this really speaks volumes about maybe their concerns
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  Speaker 1: over J. T.
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  Speaker 3: Sanders.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you almost feel like it
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  Speaker 1: there's only one spot for.
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  Speaker 3: Waller or Sanders or am I jumping the gun a
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  Speaker 3: little bit?
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  Speaker 2: There? They took four last year they took four tight
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  Speaker 2: ends on the fifty three. But you know, the wild
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  Speaker 2: card here is Felipe Franks, who we know is a
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  Speaker 2: very good special teams player and he may not be
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  Speaker 2: able to help you a whole lot on offense, but
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  Speaker 2: certainly on special teams. He's a guy and he makes
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  Speaker 2: plays and he brings some energy and we've seen him
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  Speaker 2: in that gunner role getting downfield. So you know, does
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  Speaker 2: this impact Franks or if Frank is making the team
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  Speaker 2: on special teams, Yeah, then j T. Sanders might have
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  Speaker 2: to fight for a roster spot here. But again, they
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  Speaker 2: call it NFL not for long for a reason. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you get a couple of years in and then if
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  Speaker 2: you don't show the production and if it's not there,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we've seen this in the past with a
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  Speaker 2: lot of players. You hope JT can you'll make the
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  Speaker 2: most of this opportunity and and and kind of run
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  Speaker 2: with it now now that Waller is here. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen this movie, not just with the Panthers, with
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  Speaker 2: a lot of teams in the past, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the NFL waits for nobody.
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  Speaker 3: Has Freeling looked on the right side the last couple
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  Speaker 3: of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I think the challenge that he has in practice,
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  Speaker 2: he goes up against Jalen Phillips quite a bit, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, you got a veteran and you've got a greenhorn,
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  Speaker 2: and so he's learning. But they love his athleticism. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I think in the ideal scenario, and you guys know this,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of eased into this. You've got Moten, You've
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  Speaker 2: got she Walker. But with Taylor Moten hurt, he's gonna
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  Speaker 2: get thrown in the fire. And so these preseason reps
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  Speaker 2: and these practice reps are going to be critical for Freely.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's looked I think good enough, but he's
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  Speaker 2: looked like a rookie at times two, which is to
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  Speaker 2: be expected. So again there's a lot, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: in terms of a learning curve that you know, Monroe
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  Speaker 2: Freeling is gonna have to pick up a little quicker,
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  Speaker 2: just because I don't think anybody thought that he was
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  Speaker 2: going to be the week one starter when everything you know,
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  Speaker 2: broke at the beginning of camp.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were watching him there yesterday. Man, he continues
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  Speaker 1: to hold his own. I know Phillip's on that last
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  Speaker 1: you know, move the ball period and each got him.
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  Speaker 1: But man, those one on ones, like he has more
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  Speaker 1: than held his own against Phillips, and.
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  Speaker 2: That leticism jumps off him. He is for a guy
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  Speaker 2: his size, the way he can move, and he's a
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  Speaker 2: smart guy on top of that, but his athleticism really
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  Speaker 2: jumps off the page. And I just think he might
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  Speaker 2: need a little seasoning in the first quarter of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Once he gets going, he's got a chance to be
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  Speaker 2: a staple on this old line for a long.
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  Speaker 3: Time, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think from the defense we've been we've
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  Speaker 1: kind of set the bar a niche top ten, Like
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  Speaker 1: make that jump from like middle of the pack, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fifteenth or sixteenth in that area to top ten. The
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  Speaker 1: scorting thing definitely shook us a little bit. I love
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  Speaker 1: that kid, but man, there's talent on this defense. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think is a good bar to set for
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  Speaker 1: this defense?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I kind of looked at it the same
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  Speaker 2: way where I said a year ago. I think when
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  Speaker 2: we were talking around this time, I said, if you
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  Speaker 2: could go from historically bad to middle of the pack, yes,
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  Speaker 2: that's probably worth three wins. And they went eight to nine.
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  Speaker 2: They eight wins from five wins, the year before. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if you can make that leap into the top ten,
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  Speaker 2: you got a chance to have a really good defense.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're really good on the back end. I
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  Speaker 2: really like what they have on the back end with JC.
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  Speaker 2: I had interviewed Mike Jackson the other day, who's a
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  Speaker 2: chess player, and the way he uses chess and the
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  Speaker 2: strategiery that goes along with chess onto the football field.
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  Speaker 2: It was incredibly fascinating. I think the Panthers are going
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  Speaker 2: to post it in the next week or so. The
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  Speaker 2: safety's Trayvon Merrigg had a really strong first season with Carolina,
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  Speaker 2: and then Nick Scott's just a heady guy. They kind
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  Speaker 2: of view him as a force multiplier. He makes everybody better, smart, communicates,
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  Speaker 2: and then behind him you know Ransom Wheatlee. They have depth.
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  Speaker 2: Even a guy like Isaiah Simmons could find a role
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  Speaker 2: on defense. To me, the questions are who plays next
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  Speaker 2: to Devin Lloyd? Is that Trevin Wallace, Is that Claude Cherriliss,
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  Speaker 2: is that potentially somebody who's not on the roster right now.
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, the scort and injury, that's huge, There's
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  Speaker 2: no way around it. Opportunity for princely opportunity for Pat Jones.
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  Speaker 2: But to me, the defensive line I don't think is
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  Speaker 2: being talked about enough. You have an All Pro and
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  Speaker 2: a stud in Derek Brown. Lee Hunter is a rookie,
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  Speaker 2: Bobby Brown is now going to be in a bigger role.
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  Speaker 2: Turk Wharton is injured, Cam Jackson again second year guy,
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  Speaker 2: didn't play a whole lot. Brian Ray just retired. To me,
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  Speaker 2: it starts in the trenches, and you know, A'shawn Robinson was.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought a really solid second banana to Derek Brown.
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  Speaker 2: He was a first division starter. You knew what you
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  Speaker 2: were getting. He made all the right plays, maybe not flashy,
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  Speaker 2: but right now, outside of Derek Brown, you're kind of
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  Speaker 2: looking for other guys to emerge up front. You hope
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  Speaker 2: it can be Lee Hunter, You hope Bobby Brown takes
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  Speaker 2: the next step, and you hope Turk Wharton can get
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  Speaker 2: back sooner or later. But until that happens, they have
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  Speaker 2: some question marks up front, and as we saw two
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  Speaker 2: years ago, it all starts on the d line. You
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  Speaker 2: can have a great secondary, but if you can't stop
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  Speaker 2: the run, it commutes. You know the strength of the.
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  Speaker 1: Defense absolutely, By the way, A Niche. You we we
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  Speaker 1: were talking about this earlier. You were there when the
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  Speaker 1: Little Wayne song played at training camp yesterday, and you
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  Speaker 1: guys realized that Mile but has never heard it's Little
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  Speaker 1: Wayne alone.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't with them just when that with Hip Hop
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  Speaker 3: Bone by my side, were you.
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  Speaker 2: Just the fact the fact that you just said little.
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  Speaker 3: Wayne shot.
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  Speaker 4: Dag.
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  Speaker 3: I try to go to the little and it didn't
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  Speaker 3: work out for me.
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  Speaker 1: There it's the show yesterday. Honestly, I know hip Hop
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  Speaker 1: Bone would never let that happen. I felt judged yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: a Niche. I did feel judged.
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  Speaker 2: Man. You know what, Listen, We're not that far apart
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  Speaker 2: in age, and I'm at the point too where you know,
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  Speaker 2: the the hip hop bones that I have these days,
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  Speaker 2: I keep going back to it, I said, I grew
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  Speaker 2: up in the nineties, like we have unbelievable music in
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  Speaker 2: the nineties, So I'm kind of getting to the point
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  Speaker 2: now where like the music that comes out now it's
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  Speaker 2: just noise. I remember when good, great music used to be.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna hang on to that.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, baby, That's the way I felt. That
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  Speaker 1: was the first practice I been at Bone where they're
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  Speaker 1: playing music and I'm kind of like, man, this loud
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  Speaker 1: stuff's annoying me.
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  Speaker 4: God, I've turned it into my dad. That's what I
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  Speaker 4: say when I hear you on the show. Oh dang,
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  Speaker 4: oh dang, what is happening to us?
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  Speaker 3: A Niche? All right, man, will Aniche, you did it.
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  Speaker 1: You and Fitty helped educate me along with Kyle Bailey
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  Speaker 1: and Kelly Barnick on Lil Wing. Let me get that
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  Speaker 1: straight down, Will Layne. I still can't do that all right. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching Niche and the Crew Saturday one o'clock Panthers
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  Speaker 1: and Bills.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, a Niche, appreciate it. Man.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are the best. Always good to see you,
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  Speaker 2: always good to talk. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks brother. There you go. That is a niche for
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  Speaker 3: rop