Latest / The Breakfast Club / The Race for Los Angeles: Mayor Karen Bass Sits Down With Mimi Brown
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Mayor Bass, thank you so much for joining us on
- 0:07Speaker 1: Front Page today. How are you?
- 0:09Speaker 2: I'm doing just fine, and thank you for having me.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Absolutely. So, okay, we're going to get into some of
- 0:14Speaker 1: the issues facing Los Angeles in the upcoming election, but
- 0:17Speaker 1: before we do, I wanted to have a little fun,
- 0:19Speaker 1: if that's okay. I know you're born and raised in L.A.
- 0:23Speaker 2: I sure am.
- 0:24Speaker 1: You spent decades in public service, but I wanted to
- 0:27Speaker 1: see how L.A. you really are. if that's okay. Okay.
- 0:32Speaker 1: So no thinking, just the first answer that comes to mind, just,
- 0:35Speaker 1: you know, just a little fun. Okay. All right. Fox
- 0:40Speaker 1: Hills Mall or Culver City Mall?
- 0:43Speaker 2: Fox Hills Mall.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Yes.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Why?
- 0:47Speaker 3: Because that's what it was always known as. But then
- 0:51Speaker 3: when they decided they wanted to change it and branded something.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Else, Oh, no. It's known in the community as the
- 0:58Speaker 2: Fox Hills Mall.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Absolutely. That's what we will always call it. You know
- 1:04Speaker 1: you're from L.A. when?
- 1:06Speaker 2: You know you're from L.A. when you know where the
- 1:08Speaker 2: Staples Center is.
- 1:09Speaker 1: The Staples Center.
- 1:10Speaker 2: The Staples Center.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Which is technically right behind us, right?
- 1:14Speaker 2: Exactly right.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Okay, I love that.
- 1:17Speaker 2: And some people might call it crypto. You're from L.A.
- 1:21Speaker 2: if it's the Staples Center.
- 1:23Speaker 1: Okay, I think I know the answer to this, but
- 1:24Speaker 1: I'm going to ask anyway. Old school R & B
- 1:27Speaker 1: or West Coast hip hop?
- 1:29Speaker 2: Well, now, for me, it's old school R & B.
- 1:32Speaker 2: I thought so. I thought so. Okay.
- 1:34Speaker 1: And so because we're in L.A., we know that traffic
- 1:38Speaker 1: can be a little bit overwhelming. So- Name a street
- 1:43Speaker 1: or something, a freeway that someone may avoid during rush
- 1:47Speaker 1: hour traffic.
- 1:49Speaker 3: The 405.
- 1:49Speaker 1: The 405?
- 1:49Speaker 3: Yes.
- 1:51Speaker 2: The 10 also, but the 405.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Yes, the 405 is probably backed up now. It starts
- 1:56Speaker 1: really early, right?
- 1:57Speaker 2: Well, there used to be rush hour. I don't think
- 1:59Speaker 2: there's rush hour anymore. It's rush day. It's rush day.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Okay, and then someone tells you they can get from
- 2:06Speaker 1: Santa Monica to the Valley in 20 minutes. Are we
- 2:10Speaker 1: believing them?
- 2:11Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're taking Metro.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one. OK, they're taking Metro. OK,
- 2:17Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't I did not expect that one.
- 2:20Speaker 1: All right. And Mayor Bass, I want to end with
- 2:22Speaker 1: a little wisdom. A legendary West Coast philosopher and one
- 2:27Speaker 1: of the greatest thinkers of our time once said, and
- 2:30Speaker 1: I quote, with so much drama in the LBC. It's
- 2:34Speaker 1: kind of hard being.
- 2:36Speaker 2: You're talking about Snoop. Yes, I am talking about Snoop.
- 2:39Speaker 2: And it's LBC, it's Long Beach. Good, yes, absolutely.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Who am I talking about? I'm talking about Snoop, absolutely. Well,
- 2:47Speaker 1: thank you for playing.
- 2:48Speaker 2: You're welcome.
- 2:49Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you for playing. All right, well,
- 2:51Speaker 1: Mayor Bass, we are down to the final days before
- 2:54Speaker 1: the election.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Thank goodness.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I was going to say, how are you feeling?
- 2:58Speaker 2: I'm feeling, no, I'm feeling great.
- 3:01Speaker 3: There's so much love out there and so much energy
- 3:04Speaker 3: out there. But that doesn't mean that I'm not tired. Yeah.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Because, you know, I am running a campaign.
- 3:10Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:11Speaker 2: But I'm also running the nation's second largest city. Absolutely.
- 3:14Speaker 3: And I'm chairing the Metropolitan Transit Authority Board. So I
- 3:18Speaker 3: have three full-time jobs. That makes the sister tired.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. You know, I wanted to ask,
- 3:25Speaker 1: this time around, you've never lost an election.
- 3:26Speaker 2: That's right.
- 3:27Speaker 1: You have... been in public service for years. Does this
- 3:30Speaker 1: time around feel just a little bit different for you?
- 3:33Speaker 2: Yes, but let me be clear.
- 3:34Speaker 3: I have been in public service my entire life, but
- 3:38Speaker 3: not as a politician. My roots are in the medical field,
- 3:42Speaker 3: taking care of our community, who are most vulnerable, whether
- 3:46Speaker 3: it was in the NICU, the newborn ICU with one
- 3:49Speaker 3: and two pound babies, or whether it was working at
- 3:52Speaker 3: County General Emergency Room. with gunshot wounds, stab wounds, and
- 3:56Speaker 3: car accidents, are running community-based organizations. I decided as a
- 4:01Speaker 3: child I wanted to devote my life to serving the
- 4:04Speaker 3: city where I was born and raised.
- 4:07Speaker 2: And I ran for office.
- 4:08Speaker 3: This is a tough election, but my last election was
- 4:12Speaker 3: extremely tough as well.
- 4:14Speaker 2: What is different now is that the mood of the
- 4:17Speaker 2: nation is so sour.
- 4:19Speaker 3: Because the onslaught that we have experienced from this administration.
- 4:24Speaker 2: $ 8 a gallon gas?
- 4:24Speaker 1: I know.
- 4:27Speaker 2: Food that is really expensive.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Both of those things are outside of the control of
- 4:33Speaker 3: a mayor. But what is in control, because affordability is
- 4:38Speaker 3: our number one issue, and that is housing. And I
- 4:41Speaker 3: have overseen the building of more affordable housing in the
- 4:45Speaker 3: last four years that's been built in many, many, many.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Years before that.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Did you know there's 10,000 units of affordable housing ready
- 4:53Speaker 3: right now for people to occupy?
- 4:56Speaker 1: Well, I did read that there is affordable housing in
- 4:58Speaker 1: a building that was an office building downtown.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Yes, the World Trade Center.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Yes, the World Trade Center.
- 5:03Speaker 3: One-bedroom apartments for $ 937? Wow.
- 5:08Speaker 2: No, it's not ready. That's not one of the ones
- 5:09Speaker 2: that's ready. Okay. That's going to take a year or so.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Okay.
- 5:14Speaker 3: Okay.
- 5:14Speaker 1: And as we speak about affordability, I know that one
- 5:18Speaker 1: of the reasons why you left Congress was was because
- 5:20Speaker 1: you wanted to tackle homelessness here in Los Angeles.
- 5:23Speaker 3: I have always been, maybe it's my emergency room roots,
- 5:27Speaker 3: but I have always been compelled to respond to an
- 5:30Speaker 3: emergency when I see it happening. And when we had
- 5:34Speaker 3: the devastation after COVID of hundreds of, well, it looks
- 5:38Speaker 3: like hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands of people sleeping
- 5:41Speaker 3: on our street. That's not the LA where I was
- 5:44Speaker 3: born and I was raised. And to me, it was
- 5:47Speaker 3: a humanitarian crisis, especially because black folk are only 9%
- 5:52Speaker 3: of the city and over 30% of the unhoused population.
- 5:58Speaker 3: That said, even though I loved being in Congress, I
- 6:01Speaker 3: had to leave. I had to come home.
- 6:03Speaker 2: I had to address the problems that we're facing right here.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, and speaking of the problems that we're
- 6:09Speaker 1: facing right here, you know, homelessness used to be confined
- 6:11Speaker 1: to just Skid Row. But as, you know, an Angeleno myself,
- 6:15Speaker 1: you know, you kind of see it spread out more
- 6:17Speaker 1: in different neighborhoods and, you know, on sidewalks. Why has
- 6:21Speaker 1: it been so difficult to get a handle on?
- 6:25Speaker 3: Well, let me just tell you, it was confined to
- 6:27Speaker 3: South Central L.A. and Skid Row when I first started
- 6:31Speaker 3: working on this issue. And frankly, nobody cared about it then.
- 6:35Speaker 3: They cared about it when it spread across the city
- 6:38Speaker 3: and when it spread to neighborhoods that were not what
- 6:41Speaker 3: was considered the inner city. And so to me, I
- 6:45Speaker 3: think the way it has been approached over these last
- 6:48Speaker 3: three decades by the city and the county has been
- 6:52Speaker 3: dysfunctional and that they never had a plan to actually
- 6:56Speaker 3: house everybody. And what I'm doing now is number one,
- 7:00Speaker 3: when I came into office, I wanted to get our
- 7:03Speaker 3: people off the streets and not just.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Shove them in another neighborhood. I want them to be
- 7:08Speaker 2: housed properly. I want them to be back.
- 7:10Speaker 3: On their streets and self-sufficient where they don't need any
- 7:13Speaker 3: public money. That really wasn't what was tried before. And
- 7:17Speaker 3: so that's what we've been doing. We've had the reduction
- 7:21Speaker 3: in street homelessness two years in a row.
- 7:23Speaker 2: It was the first time it ever went down. It
- 7:25Speaker 2: was only going up.
- 7:27Speaker 3: And so now what we've learned in the first term,
- 7:31Speaker 3: I am ready to establish an independent system separate from
- 7:35Speaker 3: the counties. where we can be in control so we
- 7:38Speaker 3: can make sure that our people get the care that
- 7:40Speaker 3: they need so they never go back to the streets again.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Can you talk to me about Inside Safe and the
- 7:47Speaker 1: work that you're doing with that?
- 7:48Speaker 2: Yes, and that's the primary program.
- 7:50Speaker 3: Now, there's multiple programs to get people off the street,
- 7:53Speaker 3: and I support.
- 7:54Speaker 2: All of them.
- 7:54Speaker 3: But the program that we're using with Inside Safe has
- 7:58Speaker 3: been the only successful model in clearing encampments. And what
- 8:03Speaker 3: is fundamentally different is prior to my administration— outreach workers
- 8:08Speaker 3: would come and they would pick and choose one individual
- 8:11Speaker 3: person in an encampment, which is why the encampment never
- 8:14Speaker 3: went away. We understand that encampments are many communities. And
- 8:19Speaker 3: so what we do when we go in to clear
- 8:21Speaker 3: out an encampment, We house everybody.
- 8:23Speaker 2: We take everybody.
- 8:25Speaker 3: We even take people that weren't in the encampment but
- 8:28Speaker 3: see us housing people, and they walk up and say, hey,
- 8:31Speaker 3: if you're housing people, can I come along?
- 8:33Speaker 2: Which means we've destroyed the myth that people want to
- 8:37Speaker 2: be on the street.
- 8:38Speaker 3: Black and brown people, and that's 74% of the people
- 8:42Speaker 3: that are on the street, they don't want to be there.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Nobody wants to live in squalor, not unless, and I
- 8:48Speaker 3: don't think they want to, but not unless they are
- 8:51Speaker 3: seriously mentally ill and they don't even know that they're
- 8:54Speaker 3: living in squalor.
- 8:55Speaker 1: You know, your opponent, Nithya Raman, she's criticized your handling
- 8:59Speaker 1: of homelessness, saying the city has spent millions of dollars
- 9:03Speaker 1: on Inside Safe without accountability or lasting results. Now, she's promising...
- 9:07Speaker 1: to cut street homelessness before or in half before the
- 9:11Speaker 1: 2028 Olympics. Is that realistic?
- 9:14Speaker 3: No, it's not only realistic, but it's not only unrealistic,
- 9:18Speaker 3: but it's it's. It's laughable considering that every single dollar
- 9:24Speaker 3: that has been spent on homelessness.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Is approved by Nithya Raman. I am the mayor.
- 9:30Speaker 3: I put forward expenditures. This council approves it. She, until
- 9:36Speaker 3: she was fired, was the chair of the homelessness committee.
- 9:40Speaker 3: So all of the expenses went through her committee, could
- 9:44Speaker 3: not be spent without her approval.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Wow. You know, and I we talked a little bit
- 9:51Speaker 1: about affordability, you know, because I don't think that you
- 9:53Speaker 1: can talk about homelessness. You can't talk about affordability, you know,
- 9:56Speaker 1: within the same sentence without going back and forth. LA,
- 10:00Speaker 1: we talked about the gas prices, you know, $ 8 a gallon.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Diesel is, you know, super higher than that in some places.
- 10:07Speaker 1: People are struggling to afford life and not just in California,
- 10:10Speaker 1: but around the, around the nation, you know? Um, But
- 10:14Speaker 1: how do we make LA more affordable?
- 10:17Speaker 3: And that's why I was saying what was different between
- 10:19Speaker 3: my last campaign and this campaign. the mood of the nation,
- 10:22Speaker 3: the mood of the nation primarily from this administration. There's
- 10:27Speaker 3: three ways I think we can make L.A.
- 10:29Speaker 2: More affordable.
- 10:31Speaker 3: The other issues are outside of the purview of a mayor.
- 10:34Speaker 3: We need a president that is not going to go
- 10:37Speaker 3: to war, a president that would allow us to have
- 10:40Speaker 3: reasonable gas prices, and gas is expensive here regardless. And
- 10:45Speaker 3: so three ways. Number one is housing, which I described.
- 10:49Speaker 3: 47,000 units being fast-tracked right now, 10,000 ready today.
- 10:54Speaker 2: The other way is transportation.
- 10:56Speaker 3: As chair of the Metropolitan Transit Authority, I made permanent
- 11:01Speaker 3: a program that we were piloting, and that was providing
- 11:05Speaker 3: free transportation for students. K through college can ride for free.
- 11:11Speaker 3: Seniors can ride for free. Low-income folks can. can ride
- 11:15Speaker 3: for free. So that cuts transportation costs. That's not even
- 11:19Speaker 3: to say that basically it's inexpensive to travel on Metro.
- 11:23Speaker 3: So that ride from downtown L.A. to the San Fernando
- 11:26Speaker 3: Valley cost $ 1. 75. I will tell you in gas, no
- 11:31Speaker 3: telling what it would cost because of the traffic that
- 11:34Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about on Metro. The other
- 11:37Speaker 3: big ticket for a lot of families is the cost
- 11:40Speaker 3: of child care. So we provide child care services in
- 11:44Speaker 3: a number of our parks, but we're getting ready to
- 11:47Speaker 3: massively expand that by offering nonprofits and other companies that
- 11:52Speaker 3: provide childcare to do it in our city parks.
- 11:56Speaker 2: That way it lowers their overhead costs. Okay.
- 11:59Speaker 1: And you know, I've talked to people in Leimert Park.
- 12:02Speaker 1: I've talked to people in Baldwin Hills.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Just came from Leimert Park.
- 12:03Speaker 1: You did? I love Leimert. You know, and I, but
- 12:07Speaker 1: what I'm hearing from the people in those areas, you know,
- 12:10Speaker 1: with the cost of living and affordability is, Some are
- 12:12Speaker 1: feeling pushed out of their neighborhood. You know, those families
- 12:16Speaker 1: have lived there for generations and now things are changing.
- 12:19Speaker 1: How do we keep those families there? Yes.
- 12:21Speaker 3: And I'm very worried about that. And by the way,
- 12:23Speaker 3: you're talking about my neighborhood. You're talking about where I live. Now,
- 12:27Speaker 3: I'm staying someplace different right now because. And the mayor
- 12:30Speaker 3: has a residence in the city of Los Angeles. But
- 12:33Speaker 3: my home is in the Baldwin Hills area. And so
- 12:37Speaker 3: I am watching that. And that's happening for a couple
- 12:40Speaker 3: of reasons. Number one, there's a lot of people in
- 12:42Speaker 3: those areas who really did not.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Intend to sell their homes.
- 12:46Speaker 3: But other people from other neighborhoods come in and offer
- 12:49Speaker 3: them exorbitant.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Costs.
- 12:53Speaker 3: And, for example, even my own home, coming home after
- 12:56Speaker 3: the grocery store, being met at the door with somebody saying,
- 13:01Speaker 3: I'll buy your house cash, I'll give you all of
- 13:03Speaker 3: this money, that has persuaded some people to move. The
- 13:07Speaker 3: other thing is that I'm worried about policies that say
- 13:11Speaker 3: I can sell my home in Leimert Park. but the
- 13:14Speaker 3: person I sell it to can build a six-story building.
- 13:18Speaker 3: That really changes the character of the neighborhoods. And if
- 13:21Speaker 3: you just think about Leimert Park, black people weren't even
- 13:24Speaker 3: allowed there a couple of generations ago. So it is,
- 13:28Speaker 3: to me, very important that black people not get pushed
- 13:31Speaker 3: out one more time because, honestly, I don't know where
- 13:34Speaker 3: we're going to go. And so I support the building
- 13:38Speaker 3: of housing. That's a difference between me and my opponent.
- 13:42Speaker 3: who thinks that housing should be built willy-nilly everywhere, anywhere,
- 13:47Speaker 3: because she doesn't have the sensitivity to gentrification because she's
- 13:51Speaker 3: only been in Los Angeles for 13 years. So she
- 13:54Speaker 3: doesn't know the history of people not being allowed in
- 13:57Speaker 3: neighborhoods or people being pushed out of neighborhoods. Lacking that sensitivity,
- 14:02Speaker 3: it's easy for her to arrive at the conclusion she does.
- 14:06Speaker 3: I would rather look at what the president of the
- 14:09Speaker 3: city council, Marquis Harris Dawson, has done. So he supports housing,
- 14:14Speaker 3: but he also supports maintaining the character of those neighborhoods.
- 14:19Speaker 3: And what he's done is built hundreds of units of
- 14:22Speaker 3: housing on Crenshaw Boulevard. No one gets displaced. The housing
- 14:27Speaker 3: is there. Some of it is market rate. A lot
- 14:30Speaker 3: of it is affordable. And that's the way I believe
- 14:33Speaker 3: that housing should be built. That's the number one driver
- 14:37Speaker 3: that a mayor can have influence over when it comes
- 14:40Speaker 3: to affordability.
- 14:41Speaker 1: You know, I really love that. I was born here.
- 14:43Speaker 1: I grew up in Alaska, but my family is from here.
- 14:46Speaker 1: My grandmother, my great grandmother, they all live on Crenshaw,
- 14:49Speaker 1: you know, and they've all seen their neighborhoods. They've changed,
- 14:51Speaker 1: you know, but they are worried about, you know, what
- 14:55Speaker 1: that may look like. I mean, the families having the
- 14:58Speaker 1: black homeownership and generational wealth to pass down to your
- 15:02Speaker 1: children is very, very important. And we want to protect that.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Well, I'm a homeowner today because my parents were able
- 15:09Speaker 3: to pass.
- 15:09Speaker 2: The home along. Exactly.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Exactly. Moving on just a bit, you know, today, actually,
- 15:19Speaker 1: you ordered an independent audit of the LADWP. And I
- 15:24Speaker 1: want to talk about that for a moment because people
- 15:26Speaker 1: have been opening their utility bills to $ 3, 000, $ 4, 000 utility bills.
- 15:34Speaker 1: What's going on? Why are bills so high right now?
- 15:37Speaker 2: Well, yes, there's a couple of reasons.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Number one, DWP bills are complicated because it's not just DWP,
- 15:44Speaker 3: but there's other charges on there that why in the
- 15:47Speaker 3: city history it was decided to lump everything on a
- 15:51Speaker 3: DWP bill, I'm not exactly sure. But let me just
- 15:54Speaker 3: say that we went through a brutal summer. I mean,
- 15:58Speaker 3: a summer that I can't remember.
- 16:01Speaker 2: A summer that's still going on and we're almost into November.
- 16:04Speaker 1: And it's still hot.
- 16:05Speaker 2: And it's 80 degrees out there.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 16:07Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 16:07Speaker 3: But one thing that was different about this summer is
- 16:10Speaker 3: that usually the heat goes down in the night and
- 16:14Speaker 3: you don't need your air conditioning. It was hot 24 hours.
- 16:18Speaker 3: I think a lot of people left their air conditioning
- 16:21Speaker 3: on 24 hours a day. But I've asked DWP. to
- 16:25Speaker 3: look into it. So tomorrow they have their commission meeting.
- 16:29Speaker 3: And at that meeting tomorrow, I'm expecting some results from
- 16:33Speaker 3: the commission. And I ordered an independent audit.
- 16:36Speaker 2: And I want to be.
- 16:37Speaker 3: Clear about what that means. DWP does their own audits
- 16:40Speaker 3: every year. I don't want an internal audit. I don't
- 16:43Speaker 3: want any city department to audit DWP. I want it
- 16:47Speaker 3: to be from the outside and I want DWP to
- 16:51Speaker 3: pay for it. So it does not come out of
- 16:53Speaker 3: the general fund. that would impact services like street cleaning
- 16:57Speaker 3: and street repair and those things.
- 17:00Speaker 2: Absolutely.
- 17:03Speaker 1: I know you also called for some immediate relief. You know,
- 17:05Speaker 1: you've paused people getting their shutoff notices until January of
- 17:11Speaker 1: next year. But what does that look like? Are those
- 17:14Speaker 1: charges still going to be there? Are there relief programs
- 17:16Speaker 1: that are being put in place?
- 17:18Speaker 3: This is what I'm telling DWP to figure out. With
- 17:22Speaker 3: some people, it might mean a payment plan. Some people
- 17:25Speaker 3: might find out there's something wrong structurally, like a leak,
- 17:29Speaker 3: or they need a new meter. I know, having been
- 17:32Speaker 3: born and raised here, I never had air conditioning in
- 17:35Speaker 3: any home I lived in. Even my home today does
- 17:38Speaker 3: not have air conditioning. We didn't need it. What we
- 17:42Speaker 3: all have to come to grips with is climate change
- 17:45Speaker 3: is impacting our city with climate events. That if you're
- 17:50Speaker 3: from here and you're not from the East Coast, you
- 17:52Speaker 3: don't know much about hurricanes. You don't know much about tornadoes.
- 17:56Speaker 3: But we now have reorganized our emergency systems, our fire,
- 18:02Speaker 3: our police department, and our emergency operations centers to prepare
- 18:06Speaker 3: for events that historically we have never experienced. Yeah.
- 18:11Speaker 2: For sure.
- 18:11Speaker 1: You know, Mayor, I want to talk about immigration, too,
- 18:15Speaker 1: because President Trump has made Los Angeles a major focus
- 18:18Speaker 1: on his immigration crackdown. What has it been like trying
- 18:21Speaker 1: to lead a city while going head to head with
- 18:25Speaker 1: the White House?
- 18:25Speaker 3: Well, I will tell you one thing that has benefited
- 18:28Speaker 3: me personally, but also benefited our city tremendously, is that
- 18:32Speaker 3: I served in Sacramento. In my last term, I was
- 18:35Speaker 3: Speaker of the House. I served in Washington, D.C., in
- 18:39Speaker 3: a leadership role in Congress. I know how those two
- 18:42Speaker 3: institutions work. I also served in Congress under Trump's first term.
- 18:47Speaker 3: So I also know how the White House works. So
- 18:50Speaker 3: it helps me know how to navigate that. Because at
- 18:53Speaker 3: the end of the day, all cities need federal support.
- 18:56Speaker 3: And we certainly do, a year and a half away
- 18:59Speaker 3: from the Olympics. But it also shows me how to fight,
- 19:03Speaker 3: how to fight back constructively. And I had no problem
- 19:07Speaker 3: on day one saying this was an egregious affront to
- 19:12Speaker 3: US democracy to send troops that no one asked for
- 19:16Speaker 3: and were not needed. I understood that we were being
- 19:19Speaker 3: used as an experiment. I was on the phone three
- 19:22Speaker 3: days later with over 120 mayors letting them know what
- 19:26Speaker 3: was happening because I knew that what was starting here
- 19:30Speaker 3: was gonna go to other cities. I also knew that
- 19:33Speaker 3: if we didn't stand up, The message that that would
- 19:36Speaker 3: send throughout the country would have been chilling. And we
- 19:40Speaker 3: demonstrated for the world how to resist, how to stand up. Now,
- 19:44Speaker 3: let me just say my opponent was nowhere to be found.
- 19:49Speaker 3: She was invisible. She was not present when I worked
- 19:52Speaker 3: with the other council members, when we all stood together,
- 19:55Speaker 3: when I issued at least five different executive directives. She
- 19:59Speaker 3: was not present when I met with the immigrant rights organizations,
- 20:02Speaker 3: many of.
- 20:03Speaker 2: Whom I've worked with for decades. She was not visible.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Now she's speaking out now that she is running. But
- 20:11Speaker 3: I do think that your ability to show that you
- 20:15Speaker 3: will defend Angelenos in spite of any kind of opposition
- 20:20Speaker 3: is the type of leadership that our city needs.
- 20:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 20:23Speaker 1: And, you know, I wanted to ask you about the
- 20:27Speaker 1: just some of the immigration immigrant communities. I know that,
- 20:31Speaker 1: you know, speaking to some of them. It must be
- 20:34Speaker 1: a really tough time because what I'm hearing— It's a
- 20:37Speaker 1: horrible time. Yeah. And what I'm hearing is that people
- 20:40Speaker 1: are afraid to leave the.
- 20:41Speaker 2: House for work, for school, for.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Just basic necessities. There's neighbors going to the grocery store
- 20:47Speaker 1: for them because they're afraid to leave. And then there
- 20:50Speaker 1: is reports about this 45-day blitz that is happening in
- 20:53Speaker 1: California today. and in San Diego, and I wanted to know,
- 20:56Speaker 1: do you know anything about that, and is that happening
- 21:00Speaker 1: right now?
- 21:00Speaker 3: Yes, well, first of all, it's really important to acknowledge
- 21:03Speaker 3: that the raids have never stopped. The drama around it,
- 21:08Speaker 3: the fact that it's no longer in the headlines, might
- 21:11Speaker 3: lead people to think that this is not going on.
- 21:14Speaker 3: It's not going on in such a dramatic fashion. But
- 21:18Speaker 3: if you're a family, if you're a kid who doesn't
- 21:21Speaker 3: know whether their parents are going to come home at night,
- 21:24Speaker 3: whether they will be kidnapped and they won't find out
- 21:26Speaker 3: where they are, it's an extreme crisis with unbelievable pressure
- 21:31Speaker 3: on a family, especially if that family has a missing relative.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Right. And I think that people... they confuse the mayor's
- 21:42Speaker 1: power with the federal power.
- 21:44Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
- 21:45Speaker 1: All the time, right? So I just think it's good
- 21:49Speaker 1: to kind of explain where does your authority begin and
- 21:53Speaker 1: where does it end?
- 21:54Speaker 2: Well, and let me just say not only that.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Our region is confusing because our city and county has
- 22:00Speaker 3: the same name. So a lot of times people think
- 22:03Speaker 3: that I'm in charge of number of other cities. We
- 22:06Speaker 3: have 88 cities in our county. I'm only in charge
- 22:09Speaker 3: of one.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Yes.
- 22:11Speaker 2: It happens to be the largest. Yes. But let me
- 22:14Speaker 2: be very clear. The federal government is supreme.
- 22:18Speaker 3: And so I can organize resistance, and that is critically
- 22:23Speaker 3: important to do, but I cannot, under the authority of
- 22:26Speaker 3: the mayor or the governor, stop the military from entering
- 22:32Speaker 3: our city. Peaceful protest is 1,000% needed, appropriate, and is
- 22:40Speaker 3: what we have to do. The minute that protest tips
- 22:43Speaker 3: off to violence, and I said this during the protest,
- 22:47Speaker 3: then you might as well pick up the phone and
- 22:49Speaker 3: ask the federal government to come in and take over
- 22:51Speaker 3: because you're inviting it. I can tell you that the
- 22:54Speaker 3: immigrant rights organizations, many of whom I have two and
- 22:58Speaker 3: three decades of history with, they.
- 23:00Speaker 2: Were not involved in any of the violence.
- 23:03Speaker 3: But as common at the end of something, even the
- 23:06Speaker 3: end of a celebration of the Lakers championship or the Dodgers,
- 23:11Speaker 3: you know, World Series celebration, You will have wonderful celebrations.
- 23:16Speaker 3: And at the end, there'll be a group of knuckleheads
- 23:18Speaker 3: that either decide to light fires or graffiti or do
- 23:23Speaker 3: mischief and mayhem. That is very important to separate that
- 23:27Speaker 3: from the groups that have been organizing and resisting and
- 23:31Speaker 3: supporting the immigrant community for decades. I will also say
- 23:35Speaker 3: that on behalf of the city, we raised money, philanthropic money,
- 23:39Speaker 3: to provide financial resources to families. We helped organize food
- 23:44Speaker 3: giveaways and clothing, transportation, all the things that families needed.
- 23:50Speaker 3: And I know that the enrollment has declined at LAUSD.
- 23:54Speaker 3: And I don't know this for a fact, but I
- 23:56Speaker 3: would imagine that there are kids at home where their
- 24:00Speaker 3: parents are afraid to send them to school or the
- 24:02Speaker 3: kids are afraid to go to school.
- 24:04Speaker 2: And that is a shame.
- 24:06Speaker 1: What kind of economic impact is that having on the city? Oh, yeah.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Thank you for asking me that, because it has had
- 24:12Speaker 3: a profound economic impact. And there are sectors of our
- 24:15Speaker 3: city that are still suffering. For example, the Fashion Center
- 24:23Speaker 3: is suffering. A lot of the hospitality businesses, especially restaurants
- 24:28Speaker 3: that cater to the Latino population, you have workers that
- 24:32Speaker 3: are afraid to come to work. You have business owners
- 24:35Speaker 3: that are afraid to open. And this is just an
- 24:38Speaker 3: egregious overreach for no reason.
- 24:42Speaker 2: That's the thing.
- 24:43Speaker 3: If the administration did what they said they were going
- 24:46Speaker 3: to do, it would be a different story.
- 24:48Speaker 2: We're only looking for the worst of the worst. We're
- 24:51Speaker 2: only looking for violent criminals. You know, over 70 percent
- 24:55Speaker 2: of the people that were detained had no criminal record
- 24:58Speaker 2: at all.
- 24:59Speaker 1: That's right. No criminal record at all. Just. On their
- 25:03Speaker 1: way to work, doing their everyday thing.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Being taxpayers in this city. Absolutely. And we need their taxes. Absolutely.
- 25:10Speaker 1: You know, and I think there's this myth amongst black people, too,
- 25:13Speaker 1: is that, you know, it's happening over there. Oh, no.
- 25:15Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- 25:17Speaker 3: Our city has hundreds of thousands of black immigrants from
- 25:20Speaker 3: all over, from the Caribbean, from Latin America, Central.
- 25:25Speaker 2: America, you name it. There are.
- 25:28Speaker 3: thousands of black immigrants that have been detained. There are
- 25:32Speaker 3: Asian immigrants that have been detained. But I will tell
- 25:35Speaker 3: you that the initial targeting was more on the Latino side.
- 25:40Speaker 3: But still, the immigrant net has been wide. It has
- 25:45Speaker 3: been black, brown, and Asian.
- 25:47Speaker 1: Absolutely. I just think it's important to stress that it's
- 25:49Speaker 1: an everybody problem. It's not just a Latino problem. No, no, no, no. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
- 26:00Speaker 1: And Mayor, you know, I wanted to talk about the
- 26:02Speaker 1: Palisade Fire, but I wanted to focus on where we
- 26:04Speaker 1: go from here. I know families have lost their home,
- 26:06Speaker 1: their neighborhoods, and in some cases, you know, everything they own.
- 26:10Speaker 1: But we're coming up on two years from that fire.
- 26:13Speaker 1: And when you talk to those families today, what's their
- 26:15Speaker 1: biggest concern?
- 26:16Speaker 2: So their biggest concern is really the financing.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:21Speaker 2: And the insurance.
- 26:23Speaker 3: So we have expedited, cut red tape, fast tracked everything
- 26:29Speaker 3: we can on the building process. We have about a
- 26:32Speaker 3: thousand homes under construction now. People are returning home. The
- 26:37Speaker 3: commercial areas are beginning to come back. And when you
- 26:41Speaker 3: go to the Palisades now, it is an entirely different feeling.
- 26:45Speaker 2: It is a feeling of the future. It is the
- 26:48Speaker 2: feeling that is much.
- 26:49Speaker 3: More hopeful, especially with the commercial areas coming back, like
- 26:53Speaker 3: the Palisades Village that Rick Caruso owns, but led the rebuilding.
- 26:59Speaker 2: And when you go.
- 27:00Speaker 3: Back, there's a place for the community to congregate, to
- 27:04Speaker 3: go to restaurants and to feel more normal. that's encouraging
- 27:07Speaker 3: people who weren't sure they wanted to come back to
- 27:11Speaker 3: actually come back.
- 27:12Speaker 2: And so I find it to be more hopeful.
- 27:15Speaker 3: Whereas, you know, in the early days, of course, it
- 27:18Speaker 3: was massive grief, grieving, but I appreciate you asking because
- 27:22Speaker 3: it's an opportunity for me to explain that I do
- 27:24Speaker 3: not represent Altadena.
- 27:26Speaker 1: You know, that was my next question, Mayor Bass, because, um,
- 27:30Speaker 1: I've done a lot of work in, in Altadena and, um,
- 27:34Speaker 1: I think there is this confusion on what you do
- 27:37Speaker 1: represent and what you don't represent.
- 27:39Speaker 3: Some people say, why do you only pay attention to
- 27:41Speaker 3: the Palisades? The Palisades is the only area that's in
- 27:44Speaker 3: the city of Los Angeles. Malibu is an independent city.
- 27:49Speaker 3: Altadena is in an unincorporated area, which is like View Park,
- 27:53Speaker 3: Windsor Square, Ladera Heights.
- 27:56Speaker 2: Those are all.
- 27:57Speaker 3: Unincorporated areas in our community. So they don't have a
- 28:02Speaker 3: mayor or a city council. They have a supervisor with
- 28:06Speaker 3: the county, and their supervisor is Catherine Barger, a very
- 28:11Speaker 3: close friend and colleague of mine. But I have no
- 28:14Speaker 3: jurisdictional oversight in Altadena.
- 28:17Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that you haven't been following what's
- 28:20Speaker 1: been happening to Altadena.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Of course.
- 28:21Speaker 3: Our areas are joined completely. We fight together, whether it's
- 28:26Speaker 3: going up to Sacramento and changing the law related to
- 28:30Speaker 3: the insurance industry or the banking industry.
- 28:34Speaker 2: Are going to Washington, D.C. and advocating for those things.
- 28:38Speaker 3: The other issue in the Palisades right now, by the way,
- 28:42Speaker 3: that is not banking or insurance is DWP. So this
- 28:47Speaker 3: is people who have built their homes. And now they're
- 28:50Speaker 3: just delayed in getting connection to power. And so we
- 28:54Speaker 3: are addressing that right now with groups of homeowners that
- 28:57Speaker 3: are ready to move back.
- 28:59Speaker 2: We have Zoom calls.
- 29:00Speaker 3: We find out their individual issues and we've been getting
- 29:03Speaker 3: them connected to power ASAP.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Love that. You know, and at a recent town hall
- 29:07Speaker 1: in Palisades, Councilwoman Tracy Park, who represents the area, she
- 29:12Speaker 1: told residents that she's voting for you, but she stopped
- 29:15Speaker 1: short of endorsing you. And I wanted to know, you know,
- 29:19Speaker 1: what do you make of that and what does that
- 29:20Speaker 1: say about your opponent?
- 29:22Speaker 3: Well, well, what it says about my opponent is that
- 29:26Speaker 3: there's no one on the city council, none of her colleagues,
- 29:29Speaker 3: not one of them that supports her. And she would
- 29:33Speaker 3: say it's because I'm the mighty, powerful mayor. The reality is,
- 29:37Speaker 3: if you talk to any of the members of city council,
- 29:40Speaker 3: they all individually have their stories about how difficult she
- 29:45Speaker 3: is to work with. You cannot govern the city if
- 29:48Speaker 3: you cannot build relationships. And let me just say in
- 29:52Speaker 3: terms of Tracy Park, we work together very, very well.
- 29:56Speaker 3: We were together yesterday campaigning. Whether she decides to officially
- 30:00Speaker 3: endorse me or not, I have her vote.
- 30:04Speaker 2: That is what's most important.
- 30:06Speaker 3: And I understand that she represents people who don't necessarily
- 30:09Speaker 3: feel that way. And she has to be a true
- 30:12Speaker 3: representative to all of the people in her district. And
- 30:15Speaker 3: I have the utmost respect for that and for her.
- 30:18Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And Mayor, you know, as we wrap up,
- 30:21Speaker 1: you know, you are a black woman leading the nation's
- 30:25Speaker 1: second largest city in America. Do you ever feel pressure
- 30:28Speaker 1: to get it right? No, no, no, no, no. Knowing
- 30:32Speaker 1: people are not just watching you, but they're watching what
- 30:35Speaker 1: you represent.
- 30:36Speaker 3: Let me reword your question. Do I ever not feel pressure?
- 30:40Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:42Speaker 2: Anytime you're the first.
- 30:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:44Speaker 2: I'm the first black woman. I'm the first woman.
- 30:46Speaker 3: Yeah. And I know that anything that I do is magnified, good,
- 30:51Speaker 3: bad and ugly. And I know that I want to
- 30:55Speaker 3: perform so that women that come behind me, red, black
- 30:59Speaker 3: or green, that they do not feel burdened.
- 31:04Speaker 2: By who came before them.
- 31:07Speaker 3: I want them to feel uplifted and confident that they
- 31:10Speaker 3: can walk straight into this job and succeed.
- 31:15Speaker 1: You brought up your public service and your life in
- 31:19Speaker 1: public service. I think that a lot of people may
- 31:22Speaker 1: not know that back in the early, you were, I
- 31:26Speaker 1: don't want to give a date because I don't want
- 31:28Speaker 1: to age you, but you are Aging gracefully at 73.
- 31:32Speaker 1: But the community coalition and all the things that you did,
- 31:35Speaker 1: you know, just protesting and building, you know, in the street.
- 31:39Speaker 1: And if you don't mind, if you could just share
- 31:41Speaker 1: a little bit about, you know, what led you to
- 31:43Speaker 1: do all of those things.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Sure.
- 31:45Speaker 3: Well, I made a decision as a child that I
- 31:47Speaker 3: wanted to spend my life in service. But I always
- 31:50Speaker 3: make a distinction because when you say that you've spent
- 31:53Speaker 3: your life in public service, some people equate that with
- 31:56Speaker 3: you've been a politician all of your life. And this
- 31:59Speaker 3: is the latter part of my life, going into elected office.
- 32:03Speaker 3: But it's meant the world to me to be mayor
- 32:06Speaker 3: because I feel like my life has come full circle.
- 32:09Speaker 3: Now I'm in the driver's seat. Now I get to
- 32:11Speaker 3: implement a lot of things I was fighting for other
- 32:15Speaker 3: people to implement. You know, one of the things is
- 32:18Speaker 3: addressing violence. I started Community Coalition because we had a
- 32:22Speaker 3: thousand homicides in our city. Crack cocaine was an epidemic
- 32:27Speaker 3: in the black community and the Crips and the Bloods
- 32:29Speaker 3: had become notorious around the world. And I did not
- 32:33Speaker 3: want to see our community suffer or be depicted that
- 32:36Speaker 3: way negatively around the world. So I walked away. I
- 32:40Speaker 3: was a full-time faculty member at USC Medical School. I
- 32:43Speaker 3: walked away from that comfortable job. If I had stayed,
- 32:46Speaker 3: I would have been long retired from. And I said,
- 32:50Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the epicenter where the violence is.
- 32:53Speaker 3: And I'm going to do everything I can to come
- 32:55Speaker 3: up with strategies.
- 32:56Speaker 2: To prevent and to intervene in that violence.
- 32:59Speaker 3: Now I've taken those strategies that we piloted, that have
- 33:02Speaker 3: been professionalized and studied, and I've incorporated them into my
- 33:07Speaker 3: administration by creating an Office of Community Safety because I
- 33:11Speaker 3: believe in a comprehensive approach for public safety.
- 33:15Speaker 2: Back in those.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Days, we were trying to address homelessness. Nobody was interested
- 33:19Speaker 3: in it. because it was South Central and Skid Row.
- 33:22Speaker 3: Now I'm able to come in and address homelessness, something, again,
- 33:27Speaker 3: that when I went up to Sacramento as a legislator,
- 33:30Speaker 3: I was trying to address there. When I went off
- 33:32Speaker 3: to Congress, I was still trying to address the same issues.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Now I get to come into this position with the
- 33:39Speaker 3: authority to actually deliver.
- 33:41Speaker 1: And, you know, there are voters who supported you four
- 33:44Speaker 1: years ago who may be undecided. What do you want
- 33:47Speaker 1: them to know about what will be different or what
- 33:50Speaker 1: next four years will look like?
- 33:52Speaker 3: Well, let me just say that by 2030, the end
- 33:55Speaker 3: of my second term, you will not see encampments on
- 33:58Speaker 3: our street again.
- 33:59Speaker 2: We have laid the foundation to do that.
- 34:02Speaker 3: You will see the city be far more affordable because
- 34:05Speaker 3: those 47 units that are working their way through will
- 34:08Speaker 3: be finished. And we will have another 10 or 20,000
- 34:12Speaker 3: that are underway. You will see a city that is
- 34:15Speaker 3: safer because of our comprehensive approach. We will prevent and
- 34:19Speaker 3: intervene in crime. By the way, that's why our homicide
- 34:23Speaker 3: level is at a 60-year low because of the strategies
- 34:28Speaker 3: that we've employed. And you'll have an adequate number of
- 34:30Speaker 3: police officers.
- 34:31Speaker 2: So when you call 911, you won't be waiting.
- 34:34Speaker 3: Two days for the officer to come. And our city
- 34:37Speaker 3: won't be spending hundreds of millions of dollars on overtime.
- 34:41Speaker 3: And then most importantly, we will have completed... the best
- 34:46Speaker 3: olympics in olympic history and la will be seen differently
- 34:51Speaker 3: around the world because international tourists when they come to
- 34:56Speaker 3: la they won't just go to the usual five places
- 34:59Speaker 3: but they will say oh my god i never had
- 35:02Speaker 3: any idea that all of these neighborhoods existed in la
- 35:06Speaker 3: our motto is games for all which means we are
- 35:10Speaker 3: planning festivals art exhibits watch parties sporting events all around
- 35:16Speaker 3: the city. And we will be pushing international guests to say, don't.
- 35:20Speaker 2: Just stay here. Explore East L.A. Explore the San Fernando Valley.
- 35:26Speaker 2: Know what's in South L.A.
- 35:28Speaker 3: And the reputation and the view of Los Angeles will
- 35:31Speaker 3: be different to the world.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Did I read this right, that this upcoming Olympics is
- 35:35Speaker 1: one of the biggest Olympics?
- 35:36Speaker 2: This will be the largest sporting event in U.S. history.
- 35:41Speaker 3: It will be the largest Olympic Games in Olympic history.
- 35:44Speaker 1: Wow, that's huge.
- 35:46Speaker 3: And my opponent, who made a pledge to be against
- 35:51Speaker 3: the Olympics when she first ran for city council, to
- 35:55Speaker 3: this day is ambivalent about the Olympics. You cannot be ambivalent.
- 36:00Speaker 3: About such a monumental event. And we are well on
- 36:05Speaker 3: our way in terms of the preparation. We need to
- 36:08Speaker 3: be stable, consistent and moving forward. She wants to replace
- 36:13Speaker 3: the chief of police on day one. She does not
- 36:17Speaker 3: understand that the minute she would be in office and
- 36:20Speaker 3: say that, she would destabilize the police department. Now, I
- 36:24Speaker 3: don't know about you, but I don't want to give
- 36:27Speaker 3: Trump an excuse to come in and basically say, you
- 36:30Speaker 3: guys are a hot mess.
- 36:32Speaker 2: I'm taking over. I'm not going to issue that invitation.
- 36:35Speaker 1: Well, Mayor Bass, thank you so much for your time
- 36:38Speaker 1: and being part of this conversation. We are wishing you
- 36:40Speaker 1: the best in the days ahead. That's your front page.
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