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3 Guys Before The Game - UCF Preview (Episode 499) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Hey, hey, welcome in. It's showtime and historic edition. Three Guys
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  before the game, Historic episode. Here on three guys before the game,
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  as we preview West Virginia and UCF. Why is it historic? Someone may
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  ask why, Tony funny, you should ask cop because it will become the
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  first ever road Big twelve football game for West Virginia University in the Eastern time
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  zone. Will it be listed in the Eastern time zone? Well? Yeah,
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  more on that, Yeah, more on that, developing, developing story,
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  can you. Yeah, We're I'll tell you one thing. If we
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  do anything this year, we're gonna get this season. We got it fixed.
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  I think we'll know Saturday, Saturday or Mark two oh, a full
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  let's do this thing. West Virginia UCF coming up on Saturday at noon.
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  First trip to the Bounce House for West Virginia, third ever meeting between the
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  two schools. West Virginia has won the first two contests, but it's been
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  a long long time. Much has changed at UCF, one of the largest
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  campuses and enrollments in the country. A lot of people don't know that big
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  commuter school, and they have a place that they play in that they have
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  affectionately dubbed the bounce House. They're known for enthusiastic crowds, bouncy crowds.
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  They've been waiting for a long time to ascend to the Power five level,
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  and they have and they did it by investment, and they did it by
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  winning. And this is their year that they're in for the first time.
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  But it hasn't gone as well as they've expected. They've now lost four straight
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  games, a couple in heartbreaking fashion, Baylor game, and most recently last
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  Saturday in Norman against the Sooners of Oklahoma. Nevertheless, they've lost four in
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  a row, haven't been home for a month, and now they get West
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  Virginia, a suddenly stumbling West Virginia that has dropped a pair in a row.
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  They run the ball among the best in the country. They're in the
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  top ten rushing in the country, and after what happened to West Virginia's rush
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  defense last week, that would make any Mountaineer fan concerned. That's the layout
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  for this game, mister Hoppey, Top of the day, to you and
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  to you sir, and celebrating four hundred and ninety nine episodes. We're one
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  away from five hundred and probably thirty or forty away from ending the whole podcast.
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  We were just four hundred it seemed like three weeks ago. I mean,
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  the time goes by quickly. Anyway, Well, what's you're in your
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  head? What's in my head is there's a lot to worry about here.
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  You're worried, absolutely, And we're going to break down some of the stats
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  which I think will reinforce the worry and spread zone stats. Well we'll do
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  that, but for a couple of reasons. You look at this game and
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  you go, oh, Central Florida and they've lost four conference, they're own
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  four in a conference, and you know this is a team when you look
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  at the schedule at the start of the ear. I think West Virginia can
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  go down and win that game, but think of where these teams probably are.
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  West Virginia is struggling. They've lost these last two games, and they've
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  made big mistakes in those last two games. I mean Neil Brown saying that,
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  you know, the Houston loss, it was not just about the Hail
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  Mary. It was about how they played the rest of the game and the
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  defensive problems and special teams. And then you go into the next game and
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  against Oklahoma State, bad defense, bad special teams. Neil Brown Statey was
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  more disappointed with that than he was with Houston. So they got some real
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  issues going into going on the road in a tough place to play, and
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  look at UCF, You're right, Okay, they've lost four consecutive conference games,
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  but you know what, they came within a two point conversion of tying
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  up Oklahoma and really outplayed Oklahoma for much of that game, and they really
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  demonstrated athleticism and team speed. I know we'll talk about that. So if
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  you're Gus Mailson, if you're Neil Brown, you're saying, we've got to
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  get it together. We have to play better, we're missing tackles, there's
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  things that we need to improve upon. If your gust mails on in position
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  coaches, you're saying, we are that close, We are that close,
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  We are right there, and so we can close the deal. So that's
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  why this game I think is very concerning for Mountain. Your nation well stated
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  about the gentleman from the Eastern Panhandle. He now defers as the remaining time
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  to the gentleman from the great State of Confusion. I think there's a lot
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  of truth in what Hapi said there. I share his concerns about the matchup,
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  and I haven't had concerns about matchups for each of the last whenever it's
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  been six weeks including the two losses. I thought West Virginia had the advantage
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  both over Houston and Oklahoma State in some specific areas and things they do well.
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  This one's a concern, and not just because of how West Virginia's playing,
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  because you would think you would think the special teams can get cleaned up.
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  That's better tackling and coverage, and don't run into your part return.
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  Those aren't hard asks. You're not asking for two touchdowns out of your special
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  teams. Just don't make Gargantia win mistakes in that. I think that can
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  get cleaned up right, the defense, in cleaning up the running game,
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  fits and stops. I've got concerns in that area, and we'll dive into
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  some numbers. Why the other part, Hoppy to your point about UCF is
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  you've started to dive into them. You look at that record and say,
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  okay, owen four in the league and you played nobody in the non conference.
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  You say, okay, go down there, go down there and get
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  the win. The line tells you a little something too. Opening is a
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  six point dog to a team that hasn't won a conference game. Okay,
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  that's not ideal to begin the other part is you start to dive into that.
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  You mentioned the Baylor game, which UCF just flat yacked up so big.
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  I don't know how they lost that. I don't think they know how
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  they lost that. You mentioned the Ou game last week. I was really
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  impressed with them in a lot of areas. They walked out of that game
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  with a sixty four percent win expectancy over Oklahoma. Can West Virginia catch a
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  break if we went through this last week? And you don't know the answer
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  to this, so I'm just throwing it out as a potential. Who knows
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  if it comes to fruition. Can you get a UCF team that gives it?
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  Oh, we played so great, We were right there in a program
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  defining win, and there's a little bit of a letdown and it's a noon
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  start, albeit in front of a sold out crowd. Can you get a
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  little bit of a slow start maybe out of UCF and you can jump up
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  early? Maybe wishful thinking there. I have no evidence to back that up,
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  nor will you. You'll just have to watch how that goes. But
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  the matchup is what ultimately concerns me, and you wonder if this is going
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  to be a game, And I guess maybe last week turned into one of
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  these and Houston, to a small extent, is the whole script flipped on
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  West Virginia's team where you were winning with defense and just doing enough offense to
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  keep you in it too? Are you gonna have to win shootouts? Now?
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  Is that where you're at? So this week I think I'll start to
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  tell the story a little bit on that, but it's this is no easy
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  matchup for a West Virginia team that is in bad need of a win.
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  Season on the brink question mark, it's close. I mean it's close.
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  If you get down there and get whacked, yeah, I mean then you're
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  yes, I mean you're you're not on the brink. Yet you go down
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  there and lose, you're on the brink. Your season on the brink.
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  You know. One thing that and again watching that game last week, I
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  mean, we haven't paid too much attention to Central Florida, but last week
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  you see it. I'm sorry you sef the Knights is they got their quarterback
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  back Plumbley. I mean he was out for five weeks, comes in and
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  is effective, is effective at Oklahoma game played well. You know, he's
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  a confident guy who played a lot of football. So that and then just
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  that team speed. I mean they have look at it. Look at this.
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  Look at these stats last night. Running back R. J. Harvey's
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  averaging five point five yards to carry eighty seven yards a game. Johnny richardson
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  average, you can seven point seven yards of carry sixty five yards a game.
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  Wide receiver Javon Baker twenty six catches averaging twenty one yards of catch,
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  Kobe Hudson twenty three catches, everything twenty two yards to catch. Those are
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  big play type numbers, Brad. Again, so it gets to defense,
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  it's struggling. Yeah, and I'll get into that and spreads on stats.
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  I've got some more numbers to back that up. The fear with them is
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  that speed in space is a killer. Well, what was West Virginia giving
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  last week? Space? And so can you fix that in a week.
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  It's the same guys as Neil talk this week. There's no more guys.
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  There's not different guys to put in there. Can this defensive line re emerge
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  to what it was during the four game winning streak, because guys, I
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  think it starts up front for this West Virginia team. Those the rotation up
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  front and the talents that's upfront has to carry this defense. In the absence
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  of some of your your injured guys at the linebacker and the safety positions.
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  You're now lessened in those two areas. This defensive line has to step up.
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  If we're watching that and you're calling the game and we're not saying Sean
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  Martin's name a bunch, My Lockhart, Molba, drige Ia, you go
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  down the list there. If you're not saying those names a bunch, I
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  think you've got big problems here. If you're West Virginia season on the brink,
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  yeah maybe, I mean, I know everybody's getting real anxious right now.
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  There's still wins out there. There's still wins on this schedule, right
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  A bowl game is still a possibility. Not many thought that at the beginning
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  of the season. So you're not quite on the brink yet, but you
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  absolutely as we know and Neil knows this, you gotta win games. You
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  gotta win games. I think this is a tough one to go get on
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  the road, but you've got to find ways to win games here. That's
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  the point you're out, well, you have to make up for the two
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  one of the two that you just lost because you shouldn't have lost against Houston
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  and at home it was coin flip it against Oklahoma State. You have to
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  get one back that you had figured before the season started you were gonna get
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  one of those two. Now you gotta go find another one that you didn't
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  s Yeah, well, remember you have gotten to You had two in the
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  bank, the TCU and the Texas Tech. You were significant dogs. He
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  gave the one to the Houston ones going to Sting. That's the one you
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  had and you gave back. But Oklahoma State, you're right, you were
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  favored in that one. So you're basically flush even though the two underdog roles
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  were more. This is another one. It's a sniff at underdog. You're
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  a touchdown underdog in this game. Damn think about this too, guys.
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  Is that Neil Brown said this week at his press conference. He said the
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  defense played poorly at outside linebacker, inside linebacker, and safety, sixteen miss
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  tackles. Wu's thin at linebacker and safety. You're better off naming the parts
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  that played well. I mean he named almost the entire defense there and brand
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  A stat that you've focused on is you're not getting sacks. You're not getting
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  to the quarterback. You're not getting pressure. And again I'll get into that
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  here coming up in a minute. But most of that is because you're not
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  stopping the run. The last game and a half, that's the difference.
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  Teams are running on you, getting into second and third and short not obvious
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  passing downs, and it's limit your pressure along with the certainly the tray lath
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  and injury hurts, as I keep saying. So that's the challenge. Now
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  that's why this I think this makes this a tougher matchup. This isn't a
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  team that going to drop back and throw it forty times where you get a
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  chance to get a lot of pressure. They're the opposite. They're going to
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  run it. And so that's what I'll get into here coming up. Can
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  you limit first and second down, get them in a position where they have
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  to throw it, then come get them and that can disrupt some of their
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  drives. That's going to have to be the defensive blueprint. But you've got
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  so the ultimate test comes here. We got some West Virginians on this team
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  that are going home, right, Garrett Green plays at home, so j
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  Donaldson back to his home state, among others. So you know, maybe
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  does that add a little fuel into their fire. And Mountaineer fans will be
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  there. I've talked to several people that are doing the kind of the couple
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  of days at Disney and then going over the game on Saturday, and so
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  we'll see you know what that deals like. Plus the weather noon game eighty
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  two, eighty three, eighty four degrees, and so you've got to be
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  well prepared for that as well. Also that you don't melt fourth quarter.
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  Not your fans will go they'll go to Myrtle Beach and they'll go to Florida.
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  Yeah, so they'll be there and it's good. One of the upsides
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  is that you do have a a team in the Eastern time zone and and
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  it just, I don't know, it feels even though West Virginia is not
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  used to playing UCF, it just kind of feels more natural in some ways
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  to be going to Florida to play a game. Yeah you ready? Did
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  you bring your glasses? I did. I was just looking at some some
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  other stuff here. But I'll get into it and this this section go ahead,
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  So you're ready to do this. There, you're ready. You're sure
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  you're ready to do that thing. So I checked the number. I'll just
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  go right to the numbers, jump into the spreads on stats. This is
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  where we break down the game by the numbers, like the real numbers,
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  not like the guy that sits next to you at the bar and goes like
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  and tell you what they run the ball up the middle every time I third
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  down. Not those numbers. These these are like actual computerized Sometimes they surprise
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  right, let's dive in. I posted perfect. I missed my post.
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  That was nice. Okay, how did you say something about big plays?
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  Yes, I did. UCFS top ten nationally in plays of twenty yards or
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  more, thirty yards or more forty yards or more fifty yards or more sixty
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  yards or more. Ouch other than that, Missus Lincoln, how was the
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  play? So they liked the big play. Wow, can you guard against
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  the big play West Virginia. Just for reference, in defensively giving up those
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  big plays, they're anywhere from fifties to seventieth nationally in those different yardage categories.
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  So that's gonna be a big key at Oklahoma. I thought did a
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  tremendous job. It was a got through the first half again last night,
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  went back on washing it again. It was a wild first half. It
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  felt like this a little bit of an exaggeration. Either UCF was losing three
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  yards or gaining seventy two. It was like Oklahoma. By the way,
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  Oklahoma's defense might be legit. I know we've got a couple weeks before that
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  game. They put a ton of pressure on this UCF team. And I'm
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  not just talking upfront. Their upfront guys did a nice job. They were
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  bringing linebackers constantly, run pass first third didn't matter, and they were flying
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  at the ball. So it led to a lot of stuffs and negative plays.
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  But it also forced those corners to be on an island. So that's
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  going to be another part of this is what Westernian don't play a lot of
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  man. They're mostly a zone team, almost exclusively a zone team. Can
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  you get some pressure and still play your defensive backs in a zone when they
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  throw? Do you do you go man? Do you trust your guys to
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  go man? Because there was some massive swaths of grass in that Oklahoma game
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  and sometimes UCF found their spot and when they did, those guys are off
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  running. So that's a real concern to me is you could be very good
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  on first and second down and they big play on third and you're in trouble
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  there. So just keep an eye on the big plays. I think that's
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  a massive storyline in this game. We mentioned the UCF rush offense. They're
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  really good two thirty two per game. We talk about how important the two
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  hundred yard mark is for West Virginia have only lost once under Neil Brown when
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  gaining two hundred yards rushing or more. That was last week as a program
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  that Westernia had won thirteen in a row while doing that. That's what UCF
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  averages two thirty two a game. Here. Now let's get specific. Oh
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  I go, he just went glasses. Yeah. They averaged nine point eight
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  yards per carry running through the right side a gap between the center and the
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  guard, almost ten yards of carry between the center and the right guard.
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  Now, how did Olie Gordon do in that exact hole last week, you
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  might ask. He's still running, interestingly, not in that particular gap,
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  just four carries for fifteen yards, but he did have one hundred and thirty
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  three yards on six carries every other way to the right side. So the
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  right side was a real problem for West Virginia, although Gordon was good against
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  the left side as well. But keep an eye on that. Inside a
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  gap, there can West Virginia plug that. And we were talking about those
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  defensive linemen. Get in there and muck that up and make them bounce that
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  thing if you can, and then hope you have the speed to contain when
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  they get around the outside. West Virginia's pressure on the quarterback. As I
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  mentioned earlier this show, and I've been mentioning for now six weeks, it
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  is a huge key. It's that running game and the ability of Houston in
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  the second half in Oak State last week to run the ball that has limited
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  West Virginia's ability to get pressure along with personnel. But West virgin is going
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  to have to slow down on first down. Last week This was unbelievable to
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  me. Oklahoma State average seven yards per play on first down. That's a
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  hard formula to win, right, when they're in second down in three?
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  On average? What's coming when it's second down in three? The whole playbook's
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  open to you. So can you do a better job on first and second
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  down? Let's look at some numbers? Are you ready? Yeah? Now
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  good? So they've got some excellent additional data points. You ready for him?
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  Yeah? UCF leads the country in opponent misstackles on first down rushes,
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  so you need to limit them on first down. They've done a very good
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  job of forcing you to miss on first down. That's speed, right,
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  speed and shiftiness strikes. UCF is fourth nationally in rushing yards on second down,
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  and they're fifth nationally in EPA per rush on second down. So EPA
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  is expected points added. That'd be the total change in the offenses expected points
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  that come on run plays on second So basically, another way to say that
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  they're really effective on second down. They run it extremely well. So that
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  first and second down, while critical every game, more critical against UCF because
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  they're very good offensively in those situations. Can you match them? How's wes
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  Virdian's defense on second down? Did you want to ask me that? Sure?
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  Okay, I'll get that. Thank you for asking. West Virginia's in
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  the middle of the pack in the Big twelve when it comes to opponent rushing
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  yards on second down, sixth right, smack in the middle. Almost in
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  the MIT teams are averaging five yards per carry on second down. West Virginia
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  is only eleventh in the league. And defensive stuff rate on second down.
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  So if you really want to niche this down, watching first down to see
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  how UCF does, but then pay particular attention on second that's been an area
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  West forty five yards of carry. It's got to be better than that.
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  You got to hold into less. You got to up that stuff rate on
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  second down and meet them where they're at their best. You're you're putting a
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  bunch of numbers out there. And the one thing that keeps coming into my
• 22:18
  head is that West Virginia has to shorten the game. I would huddle.
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  I would. I mean, you're talking about explosion here. I would limit,
• 22:26
  limit as much as I possibly can them touching the ball. That's one,
• 22:30
  all right, But did you want some good news? Because I know,
• 22:32
  I know you're just paying it an absolute horror show. I have a
• 22:34
  bright spot. Oh okay? For the defense against their rush offense, UCF
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  is second nationally in lost fumbles on rushing plays on third down or what that
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  you go way deep for you there was gonna you know what, and props
• 22:51
  to you because you get really deep in your I'm going to look at that
• 22:53
  and go, that's not a trend. That's just a thing. That's just
• 22:59
  a number that I don't think that means anything. You don't, No,
• 23:02
  I don't know. I don't know. But I mean, how many how
• 23:03
  many are scientific or anecdotal? I don't think. I mean, if if
• 23:07
  you said, like they fumble, they fumbled eleven times on third down,
• 23:11
  I would say, but if they fumbled twice, then neither of these teams
• 23:15
  recovers a lot of fumbles. Yeah, that's true. To just put that
• 23:18
  w you know it's an challenge. Then I'll tell you what's But if they're
• 23:22
  running in third death. You can keep them in third and medium. The
• 23:25
  key is hold first and second, make them have to throw it on third.
• 23:29
  Reese plumbly susceptible to some pressure complete as most quarterbacks completion rate goes down.
• 23:33
  You can get in there. So if they can get to obvious passing
• 23:37
  downs second and long, third and long where they have to throw it that
• 23:40
  that's what you're trying to do here against this team that wants to run it.
• 23:42
  If if they're killing you on first down and even second, then that's
• 23:45
  going to be a long day. I think, you know it's wild.
• 23:48
  So he gives all these numbers, right, all these great stats down to
• 23:52
  the absolute razor sharp. It makes them sound like the seventy two undefeated Dolphins.
• 23:57
  They're three and four. Well, that's as crazy as I remember.
• 24:02
  Plumb Lee was out for five games. I understand. I understand, but
• 24:06
  I'm just simply saying, it's like the numbers, the numbers, the numb
• 24:11
  You would you would think that their record would be different based upon those numbers.
• 24:15
  Yeah, I agree with you. Here's here's what you have to do,
• 24:17
  though, And this is this is why I like the the It's not
• 24:21
  Las Vegas even more because it's everywhere. The betting style of analyzing this is
• 24:25
  why I like that stuff. Right, the counting stats tell you you're right
• 24:27
  three and four. You've lost all four games in the Big twelve. Ha
• 24:30
  ha ha, you're not very good. You've lost all four. You start
• 24:33
  to dive into this and look at some power ranking numbers, because that that
• 24:37
  line surprised me. I thought it was going to be three or four.
• 24:40
  Yeah, me too. The fact that comes in at six and a half
• 24:41
  and seven that I was like, WHOA, what the heck? I looked
• 24:45
  about four different Vegas style power rankings. They all had most of them had
• 24:49
  UCF closer in that range. They've played really well. They've played some tough
• 24:53
  Big twelve opponents. Right, you start to go through it. Oklahoma,
• 24:56
  Kansas State are in there, right, two of the favorites in the league.
• 25:00
  They've been right there. So that there, this feels like one of
• 25:03
  those where their record doesn't indicate how dangerous they can be. All right,
• 25:07
  let me this is maybe you have some stats on this, but I think
• 25:11
  Tony, some potential positive news would be Although you don't want West Virginia to
• 25:15
  be in a position they have to outscore somebody and try to score forty points.
• 25:17
  Is that their defense up until their defense has been shredded. They've been
• 25:22
  shredded all season. In fact, I've read a piece in the Orlando paper
• 25:25
  where they gave up thirty one against Oklahoma, but still they were going,
• 25:27
  Wow, the defense is better. They won't to give up thirty one points.
• 25:30
  So they have given up points. They have, But if you dive
• 25:34
  into some of their individuals that they've got dudes that you know, and if
• 25:40
  their corners can lock up West Virginia's receivers, they are a very difficult team
• 25:45
  to figure out. To your point, their record does not match these underlying
• 25:48
  numbers on either side of the ball. So Baylor lighting them up like they
• 25:52
  did is the one that gives you pause. I thought they played pretty well
• 25:56
  against Oklahoma. Yeah, I mean Oklahoma a couple turnovers. That's part of
• 25:59
  the thing, right to avoid turnovers against them. They've got some individuals along
• 26:03
  the defensive line and a linebacker that have some stats that are near the leaders
• 26:07
  in the Big Twelve. So this is a really fun one to watch.
• 26:10
  Is there a path to victory? Absolutely there is, But I also think
• 26:12
  this is a team that's better than what their Big twelve conference record would indicate,
• 26:18
  let's flip over to the West Virginia side, because you just said it,
• 26:21
  they might have to win a shootout. This might be one where you
• 26:22
  put up forty hold into thirty eight and walk out of there with a win.
• 26:26
  However, you can get it. The challenge for this offense, to
• 26:29
  me, while it's playing much better, these last couple games has been fun
• 26:32
  to watch. I think Neil's called tremendous games each of the last two.
• 26:36
  Garrett Green needs some help. Garrett Green is making a lot of plays right
• 26:41
  now, guys, and the question is who can come along with him,
• 26:44
  specifically at the running back position. If you get Remac back and now that
• 26:48
  offensive line is back, Intac, get Yates back over to where his side
• 26:52
  was that he's been playing all year. Can this line kick it in again?
• 26:53
  Can you get another two hundred yard plus rushing game? Now, I
• 26:56
  know a lot of that was because Garrett went for over one hundred, but
• 26:59
  that's part the deal. This just in that's what this team's going to have
• 27:03
  to do. This isn't a oh, Garrett had to run for one hundred.
• 27:04
  Garrett's going to need to run for seventy five to one hundred yards in
• 27:08
  this offense? Can C. J. Donaldson have a breakout game you've been
• 27:11
  waiting on that? Can this backfield get cranked up? Let's look at Garrett
• 27:17
  for a second, because I think this warrants some more time on what a
• 27:21
  really good season this kid's had. For a guy going into the season that
• 27:23
  we said, what should we expect from Garrett green We've only seen a limited
• 27:26
  sample size. How often did we talk about the need to not turn it
• 27:32
  over? If you're Garrett green Ton every show all summer, every preview with
• 27:36
  races show, Yeah, turn it over? Can he get to the point
• 27:38
  where he doesn't turn it over? Can he get to the point where he
• 27:41
  doesn't force it? Don't turn it over? If Garrett doesn't turn it over,
• 27:44
  this offense has a chance. Guess what you know? Garrett can't turn
• 27:45
  it over? And then guess what Garrett hasn't done turn it over? And
• 27:49
  we don't give it enough attention. So let's give it some attention. Eight
• 27:52
  touchdown passes in two interceptions so far on the season, and one of those
• 27:56
  interceptions I agree with Neil shouldn't be counted as an interception when you throw up
• 28:00
  the receiver and it's a perfect pass and it hits him right in the hands.
• 28:03
  Should be nine to one that it should be a fumble. No,
• 28:04
  it should be nine touch thousand and one. Yeah, which is unbelievable.
• 28:07
  Now go a little bit further. We've talked about this before with Pro Football
• 28:11
  Focus, how they chart big time throw rate and turnover worthy plays. So
• 28:17
  that would be a big time throw that he would have had on the Jalen
• 28:18
  Anderson one. Not a turnover worthy play turn into a pick, but that
• 28:22
  is not what that should be classified as. Thirteen big time throws just for
• 28:26
  turnover worthy plays. That's a pretty good ratio quarterback does that. You're extremely
• 28:32
  happy for Garrett to mature to the point where he's giving you that plus the
• 28:36
  running ability. He's playing at an all time level right now for West Virginia
• 28:41
  as good as anybody's been. Let me give you this one one number.
• 28:44
  Hop you'll like this. I'm way down in the weeds here. His ability
• 28:48
  to run has to continue to be a focus of this offense. It was
• 28:51
  so devastating to Oklahoma State. Here's how important he's been with his legs.
• 28:56
  He leads the nation in first down rushing percentage the percentage of carries for a
• 29:02
  player that have gone for a first down. Forty four percent of his carries
• 29:04
  have gone for a first down. That leads the country, not quarterback that
• 29:10
  leads the country for all rushers in first down percentage. You think he's made
• 29:14
  a difference for this team. You think his legs are valuable. Yes,
• 29:17
  but to your point, hey, running back room come along with how about
• 29:21
  a little something for the effort here? Everyone talked, Oh the running back
• 29:25
  rooms full before the seedon started, running back rooms fall. Okay, guess
• 29:27
  what season's on season started? Go play, break tackles, make plays.
• 29:34
  Well, how about Tony? To your point, how about Justin Johnson?
• 29:37
  Are Justin Johnson starting to emerge? Fourteen carries seventy two yards in the last
• 29:41
  game CJ. Donaldson was thirteen carries for thirty some yards. Justin Johnson starting
• 29:45
  to get into groove? Maybe him up. Give one game? One game
• 29:48
  is not a trend. As a wise philosopher, thank you, continues to
• 29:51
  preach, but yeah, go out there and do it. He has shown
• 29:53
  in his career there are times when he flashes and it's like, yeah,
• 29:57
  he runs really hard, he run really well. We saw that at the
• 30:00
  end of last season. But you have in order to do it, you
• 30:03
  gotta do it every single week. Yeah. If if you did one talk
• 30:08
  show, good talk show, one out of five a week, guess right,
• 30:12
  that's about right. Guess what, you wouldn't be here. You would
• 30:17
  not be around as long as you've last understanding it. But maybe he's just
• 30:19
  getting I don't know how you and everybody's looking for an answer that I'm saying,
• 30:23
  Okay, give what, just just he's bad almost he's battled some injury,
• 30:26
  but now is his time. Here is his opportunity. You're right,
• 30:30
  yeah, but that they're due and need to have one of those games where
• 30:33
  Green gives you one oh seven s, a CJ gives you one thirty two,
• 30:37
  and Justin Johnson, oh, by the way, came in and got
• 30:40
  you seventy two. That that needs to be like a third one on that
• 30:42
  list, not like, oh hey, look well that's pretty good. Now.
• 30:45
  Western is deep ball game has has cushioned some of that blow of the
• 30:49
  running backs not doing what you thought they would do. But again, some
• 30:52
  of that's defense too. That's part of why the deep ball is working is
• 30:56
  because everybody's coming up on you and telling you go ahead, and you beat
• 31:00
  us with the pass. Well for two straight weeks. You almost did.
• 31:03
  Now they're both losses, but you have shown the ability to throw it deep.
• 31:06
  They're due for a game, and this would be a good defense to
• 31:08
  do it against. Protect Garrett Scramble when you need to. But get this
• 31:11
  running back room cranked up behind a rebuild offensive line. Here play play to
• 31:19
  the end of October. Play so I check the numbers. We'll just go
• 31:26
  right to the numbers to jump into the spreads on stats. I thought he
• 31:33
  was really good today. Would you think I'm just on it? Absolutely?
• 31:36
  You know it states like a razor for that third download the rest. We're
• 31:38
  really good. You never hope they're not a third down fumbler. I'm all
• 31:41
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  know the only guy I know there right now is Mike. Mike's the only
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  guy, so we's probably just go have lunch with Mike. That'd be fine.
• 32:14
  Yeah, maybe they might want to bring a couple of those guys or
• 32:17
  ladies up here was sit down with them, have a big lunch. I'd
• 32:20
  be fine too. Yeah, they'll pick up the tab right because they do
• 32:22
  numbers, all right? Very good? Sure, Michael, I'm sure Mikero
• 32:29
  love that. Yeah, probably Tony. Twelve dollars, Brad, you eleven
• 32:32
  fifteen by the way, before it yeah, before we started recording today,
• 32:37
  I witnessed the payoff of Hoppy's first career bat that he won over the weekend
• 32:45
  on the under on Iowa. Who was it? Wisconsin? Minnesota, Minnesota,
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  Iowa, Minnesota. There you go. Hoppy want cash, baby,
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  want less money, want himself a fin right there? Five dollars tickets,
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  Hey, Tony, watch this making me? I also I also saw Hoppy
• 33:05
  pay the juice to Brad. He paid forty six cents in juice, went
• 33:09
  to his office, got his got his plastic little change purse. I didn't
• 33:15
  have forty six cents. Thank you, Brad, Brad, Brad, what's
• 33:22
  fine? Welcome Welcome aboard, Yeah, hoppy, welcome for welcome to your
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  new life. I told my wife. She got freaked out, like,
• 33:28
  oh no, now you're gonna start betting on games with who's the house?
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  No, we're all good. It was it was it was only it was
• 33:36
  that for you. You got it riding on middle. You've got it riding
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  on middle in the noon game. I let it ride. Hey, who's
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  Iowa play? This week's underaction on it? So like? Has that?
• 33:47
  Has anyone done the math as to what they need to average point wise for
• 33:51
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  and then with an RC. That's all I can say at this point contractually.
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  All right, So uh, I've got twenty six pages of texts double
• 36:16
  space eighteen font But again, in full disclosure, a lot of them say
• 36:23
  the same thing. Did you do your AI again? I didn't do the
• 36:27
  AI on this one because basically it's the same AI F on the last show.
• 36:30
  Yeah, So, like like I went away from two a I from
• 36:34
  two years ago, I could I could have gone back to chat GPT and
• 36:37
  said, hey, I was with you on Sunday and you broke down all
• 36:40
  these and like chat GPT would have come be like you already did this on
• 36:44
  Sunday. GPT say yea, I got hey, listen, I got other
• 36:50
  fish to dude, I'm frying here, I'm writing code. I go,
• 36:52
  what are you doing with this thing? Don't bother me? What do you
• 36:54
  think of? So I bring that up for the simple point of I'll start
• 36:58
  riffing through some of these and if they all start to sound the same.
• 37:00
  I'll use YouTube, guys. You guys can kind of give me the keep
• 37:04
  it going, all right? Got it got the theme because everyone's saying the
• 37:07
  same stuff for the most part, generalized statement. Anyway, here we go,
• 37:15
  Texas says, I do believe some of our loudest fans have little knowledge
• 37:19
  of the game of football. I've been the coach to let the game get
• 37:22
  to me and made a bad decision, and I've also been the player to
• 37:27
  make the mistake. Both can happen. I do believe a coach's job is
• 37:30
  to put the team in position to win, but after that, the player
• 37:32
  has to make the play. We have seen both this year. The last
• 37:37
  two games are not on Neil Brown, and it's not on the players.
• 37:40
  It's called football. I think there might be some truth to that. There
• 37:46
  is, however, however, you're the CEO. You're in charge, and
• 37:52
  I agree, and I know what Brad's point is going to be is players
• 37:53
  got to make plays. I agree with that completely, but the person in
• 37:58
  charge it flows up one hundred percent. No one disagrees. Neither would Neil
• 38:02
  Brown. Neil would say that's not true. Neil wouldn't say no, that's
• 38:06
  not true. No, he's on it. He owns it. Texas says,
• 38:09
  we can blame Neil all we want. Since joining the league, we've
• 38:12
  only won ten games in a season once. We've only won eight games twice.
• 38:17
  That is the problem. We have sacrificed being competitive to take millions of
• 38:22
  dollars from the Big twelve. I will be amounts near till I die,
• 38:27
  but I want my kids to see glory days and not just live in the
• 38:30
  stories that I tell. Signed by DJ, your friend from Anuroe County,
• 38:36
  be blessed. Of course, Monroe County one of the most, if not
• 38:39
  the most beautiful county in the state of West Virginia. We thought was where
• 38:43
  you had your hunting success. Correct, it'd be a correct statement. Thank
• 38:45
  you Texter. Listening to Sunday's review, Brad as a rational sound voice,
• 38:52
  I support one hundred percent your stance on players need to make plays, and
• 38:54
  I will stand up as a Neil Brown apologist. However, after Saturday,
• 39:00
  my confidence is waning. Seems these rare mishaps come at the worst time.
• 39:06
  Despite these situations being practiced, it leaves me to believe the staff isn't sinking
• 39:12
  in on our guys talent enough to execute them in real time either way.
• 39:15
  Year five. The reason why these happen is irrelevant. It's the frequency at
• 39:20
  which they happen in the biggest moments that hurts the most. Ultimately, that
• 39:23
  comes back to coaching. Keep up the great works signed by the Bearded ear
• 39:30
  Stephen Tennessee rights always support Neil, still do want them to succeed, but
• 39:37
  even he admits he's never seen teams lose this way. He said it himself
• 39:42
  last two weeks. While past coaches got unlucky breaks at inopportune times, we
• 39:45
  did not seem mindless, completely undisciplined plays with anywhere near the frequency we see
• 39:51
  a couple of two to three times a year. What does it mean?
• 39:54
  Lack of fear of your coaches period? The players mostly like Neil and staff,
• 40:00
  but they don't fear them like Niel and and rich Rod's staffs. I
• 40:04
  know it's a different day, but there's got to be some fear factor instilled
• 40:07
  in our players, otherwise it will be the end of Neil and staff.
• 40:10
  Steven Tennessee, I don't know if that works anymore. Yeah, that's what
• 40:17
  I was thinking when I saw that from me and Eric Spolstra in the NBA
• 40:22
  doesn't have a lot of fear to the Miami. He Jimmy Butler's not afraid
• 40:23
  of Eric Spolstra te use one example. No, I mean, I get
• 40:28
  what Steve's saying. I just don't know that that's the market or the culture
• 40:30
  anymore. Now. I understand what you're saying as well, Steve, And
• 40:34
  I don't know what the happy medium is. But you can't coach like Rich
• 40:37
  coached. You can't. You just can't. I just I'm just telling you.
• 40:44
  Nowadays, it'd be over. Rich doesn't coach like Rich coached. Rich
• 40:50
  changed because the second you would do what you would say or what you would
• 40:54
  do. Now they're up at the office and they put this singing there and
• 40:59
  it's over. In our lifetime, we have seen coaches go up and grab
• 41:04
  kids' face masks and rip it around and yell at him. And you can't
• 41:07
  do that. You can't do it. And again I'm not sure, I'm
• 41:12
  not I don't. I'm not sure it works. But to his point,
• 41:15
  yeah, exactly right. What is the new what is the new way to
• 41:19
  get it so that you get them going? Anyway, this may or may
• 41:23
  not work. So someone sent me this tribute to Tyson Bagent. A guy
• 41:29
  named Todd Beach is a WV grad. Do you have that video, Luke?
• 41:34
  I sent it to you yesterday. Oh yeah, there it is.
• 41:36
  This has got an audio to it is who this is? What's this?
• 41:45
  As a man who heeds a life or danger to your team, he meets
• 41:53
  he is a ranger, but every run takes a legacy he makes. Odds
• 42:04
  are he willed is to see to mag mag man naked in you a number
• 42:17
  and your name will live in very pretty neat. Huh. That's good.
• 42:22
  That's really nice the w VIA grad Todd Beach. We just had second verse
• 42:30
  secret pagent man to the careful how you play or you'll throw that ball away?
• 42:44
  Odds are he willed is to see to ma said? Pretty nice and
• 42:52
  well done. Congratulations to it Todd. I we we hear three guys.
• 42:55
  We applaud creativity and that's very well done. Hopefully yeah, hopefully that'll make
• 43:00
  you a bunch of stuff there. Congratulations to Tyson as well. That's an
• 43:04
  awesome did you hear. I mean the interviews after the game we talked about,
• 43:07
  you know, since I was at Bartinsburg, I just I prepare I
• 43:09
  prepared just I mean, he was very just practical about it all. He
• 43:14
  was not bred, he was he rose to the moment. The moment was
• 43:17
  not too big for him. Yeah. Well that's the way he's been the
• 43:20
  whole time. Right, He's not surprised that he's having success. He's prepared
• 43:22
  for success. Great, happy for him. That's a great story. As
• 43:25
  we've as we've been saying, this is awesome. From the text line.
• 43:29
  Credit to their offensive coordinator too, got him one hundred and thirty one hundred
• 43:31
  and eighty yards passing the other day too. Yes, it was the offensive
• 43:35
  coordinator. Yeah, the Beijing had nothing to do with was the offensive course
• 43:39
  the offensive coordinator's name, because that's some good coaching. What's his name?
• 43:43
  Yeah? No, oh, you know you don't know. What's the player's
• 43:45
  name? Tyson Pagent all right? I think he also gave me. He
• 43:52
  gave the crowd one of these too, didn't He didn't give you a crowd
• 43:54
  like one of these. He steals the job, that's nothing but bulldog pride.
• 43:58
  Hope he takes the job. That's nothing, then bulldog hoppy. You
• 44:00
  should be as a as a shepherd, alum, you should be happy.
• 44:02
  I did go to Shepherd for it one year before transfer institution. What's that
• 44:07
  you went into the portal. I went into the portal. I did great.
• 44:12
  Yeah you did two from GENESEEU. I mean the great school. I
• 44:14
  don at lot of fun there. That was a great school. Yeah,
• 44:16
  Texter, good athletic programs. I honestly see something in this team. It
• 44:20
  reminds me of the nineteen ninety Braves. Not there yet, but I can
• 44:23
  see it. Here's a concise breakdown to the rest of the season at UCF.
• 44:30
  Which team re covers from Oklahoma disappointment coin flip b Yu. They come
• 44:37
  in here, They're going to have a Texas hangover. Mormons don't know about
• 44:38
  hangovers. It's a win at Oklahoma, just stay healthy. Loss Cincinnati,
• 44:45
  win it for Donnie Neel and win at Baylor. They fast coin flip records
• 44:51
  seven and five. Give us a warm Weather Bowl, please, Chris and
• 44:52
  Marietta. That'd be right, Texter, that's out there. Scope spreads hot
• 45:00
  program is exactly what our five year record indicates. Poor player football IQ,
• 45:05
  not enough power for talent, poor player development. Where does that all land?
• 45:10
  Where does the buck stop? John and Parkersburg? So he already moved
• 45:15
  up. He just got ready. He just got rid of Power five.
• 45:17
  This first guy I've ever seen just go street. He's already transitioned. He
• 45:21
  just blowed up. He blowed up the Pac twelve. It's not just Powerful
• 45:24
  year. Yeah, uh, this is big, This is significant right here,
• 45:29
  folks. Brett Yormark, the commissioner of the Big twelve conference, was
• 45:34
  in Morgantown for the game last week, and we talked about that on Sunday,
• 45:37
  and several folks have sent me pictures notifying me that, in fact,
• 45:42
  he was here. It was homecoming. So we had former mountaineers there.
• 45:45
  Here's a gentleman wearing the buckskin with a picture with the commissioner. It's mister
• 45:53
  Zervos. There form mountain here. I believe he said, there you go
• 46:00
  next one. Shortly after this picture was taking time, zones were mentioned to
• 46:05
  the commissioner, keep up the pressure this guy right here. Why do people
• 46:08
  always do that with their tongue and their fingers when they take those pictures?
• 46:10
  What does that mean? I don't know they always do they ever notice that?
• 46:14
  Yeah? No, Texter, Three guys, Hello, you wondered.
• 46:19
  Last episode of the Commissioner was in the house last Saturday. He had just
• 46:22
  concluded a conversation with Big John Thornton when this picture of my grandson and I
• 46:27
  was taken. Here's another one. I'd like to take some of the credit
• 46:30
  for getting the time zone issue resolved, but he and his entrage were in
• 46:35
  a bit of a hurry. I'm not sure if the suit is from Daniels,
• 46:37
  but no doubt had made the commission stand out from the rest of us.
• 46:40
  Suit. I think it looks good. I got that button right in
• 46:44
  there. So here's the deal. This whole Eastern time zone thing, which
• 46:49
  we do think after twelve years we fixed. This was a part. This
• 46:54
  was a crowdsourced project. We started to yell, I got to rent,
• 47:00
  Wren got to the league, and then finally Wren had success. And so
• 47:06
  our three, our first, our first three guys before the Game podcast Hall
• 47:09
  of Fame Selection, give it out already, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
• 47:15
  to the program. Justin Nusser, that is Justin Nusser. He is the
• 47:20
  Big twelve senior director of Digital Production and we've dubbed him the Eastern time Zone
• 47:27
  Savant. This is the guy that Wren got a hold of. This is
• 47:30
  the guy that at least last Saturday put the game times out East first then
• 47:35
  Central. I texted him this. I emailed him this week, told him,
• 47:39
  I said, thank you very much. You'll never buy another drink in
• 47:43
  West Virginia. And uh now is just a matter of consistence. Thank you,
• 47:49
  Justin, thank you now, but appreciate it. But consistency, Well,
• 47:52
  you gotta come through again. He had a nice game. Well you're
• 47:54
  not gonna do it one time. I mean, you said a nice game
• 47:57
  last week. I got to continue to come through success. Success is not
• 48:02
  owned, it's rented, and Justin needs to continue to pay the price.
• 48:07
  Thank you. To assume something happens one week, you can't just pick it
• 48:10
  up and move it forward to the next. Some have said that on this
• 48:13
  show Texter the people in the world Eastern and Central. I simply want to
• 48:20
  say that I truly wish my fellow mountaineers were not such prisoners of the moment.
• 48:24
  I realized the need for evaluation of the program and everyone's desire to win.
• 48:29
  However, going from elation over a four and one start to a sky
• 48:32
  is falling mentality over the course of two games is emotionally and intellectually weak.
• 48:38
  I believe was Brad who mentioned on the last episode that a different outcome on
• 48:43
  a hal Mary at Houston was West Virginia City. Has West Virginia sitting at
• 48:46
  five and two today? Are people calling for Neil Brown's job? Then I
• 48:51
  truly wish we could kill the hysteria, name calling, threats to pull donations,
• 48:57
  denouncements of fandom, etc. In exchange for some calm and perspective,
• 49:02
  we get to watch a competitive season of Mountaineer football. This is supposed to
• 49:07
  be fun. Ren Baker can evaluate things at season's end. For now,
• 49:12
  perhaps Mountaineer fans would benefit from realizing that Mountaineer football is a fun side of
• 49:19
  life, not the most important, and that it may take a bit of
• 49:22
  emotional maturity to cheer for eighteen to twenty two year old kids as they represent
• 49:25
  our home state. Let's go win the next one. But if we don't,
• 49:30
  well, hug your kids, Thank god you live in the United States,
• 49:32
  and go do something productive for someone else. Thanks for all you three
• 49:37
  do. It's fun to listen each week. Go Mountaineers. Excellent text.
• 49:45
  That person might go in the Hall of Fame. I hit a lot of
• 49:46
  points. It's great text. What are you furring your eyebrow? I do
• 49:50
  you have angst over that? That's about as well written as you can have
• 49:53
  it. Yeah, I don't disagree with any of it. However, the
• 49:58
  nature of fandom is to be emotional, and it's it's very hard sometimes to
• 50:02
  have perspective, to have perspective. I was thinking, yeah, you're right,
• 50:07
  it is. It's a bud you So sometimes you just have to walk
• 50:10
  into Cooper's Rock and just scream into the trees for a while and they come
• 50:14
  back. I mean you because it but it's still a it's still a win
• 50:21
  loss outcome, you know, I mean it just that's that's the nature of
• 50:24
  it. And I know, I know, I know, and and I
• 50:27
  mean Neil Brown, by his own admission, has talked about how poorly they
• 50:32
  have played in those in those two games. So it's not just about well,
• 50:38
  I'm gonna stop there. I I'm bringing I'm bringing the house down here,
• 50:42
  and I don't want to do that. No, But his point,
• 50:45
  I think the one point there is the the everything is great and puppy dogs
• 50:51
  and ice cream, and then the next week, because of a hell Mary,
• 50:52
  the sky is falling and we've got to fire everybody. That's the part.
• 50:55
  We're trying to balance this thing out. You're still four and three.
• 50:58
  See where the thing goes and that that's my point. Just get to the
• 51:00
  end of the season. There's still some wins left. If you don't get
• 51:02
  any more wins, well then that's a different discussion. But let the thing
• 51:06
  play out and see where it is without the constant just absolute flamethrowing. You
• 51:14
  can't be you can't be the great coach that beat Pitt and the lousy coach
• 51:19
  that lost to Houston. It's the same guy, so you can't be that
• 51:22
  right, And try and see through some of it, and then there's a
• 51:25
  place for all of this discussion later. But just see where this thing.
• 51:29
  Okay, this thing goes, all right, Texter. Since Neil was hired,
• 51:34
  West Virginia's text now yelling at me because he said that. No God,
• 51:39
  Texter. Since Neil was hired, West Virginia's a combined minus twenty one
• 51:44
  in turnover margin over four and a half seasons. We've only finished a season
• 51:47
  positive in turnover once. It's been a consistent problem. Here's hoping for a
• 51:53
  turnaround starting Saturday. Signed by a frustrated Coal in Morgantown. And that's a
• 52:00
  big number when you're looking at wins and losses, right, Oh yeah,
• 52:02
  And so that that's something over the last couple too, because you saw West
• 52:06
  Virginia get get off the gate early, get out of the gate early with
• 52:09
  those interceptions, more than you had all of last year, just in the
• 52:12
  first couple of games. And then that's kind of died out here over the
• 52:15
  last field and how many seventeen? Yeah, yeah, so Texter, Hello,
• 52:20
  three of my favorite guys from Chester and Winchester. Oh that here are
• 52:25
  two old man hankies to wipe away the tears from the past two losses for
• 52:30
  good measure, a really old school pencil. Sharper included. My grandson plays
• 52:36
  high school soccer. We attended the WVU JMU two two tie advice to suffering
• 52:39
  fans find other diversions like soccer until football and hoops are more successful. Keep
• 52:45
  up the good work. I forgot about those pencils. A hoppy Man soccer
• 52:50
  is ranked number one in the world. I'm sorry. Wvu's Mans soccer team
• 52:54
  is number one in the world. I thought Central Florida was just talked South
• 52:59
  Florida. Somebody just talk to the director of athletics this morning, w congratulations
• 53:04
  because you're you're hire. You hired strats, so congratulations. Rifles hurt them.
• 53:09
  It was rifles number one and men's soccer is number one. Texter I
• 53:17
  enjoyed the interview with WVU GM Drew Fabianich. Given the recent success of players
• 53:25
  like Tyson Beagent Hudson Clement, with nil quickly becoming out of control recruits asking
• 53:31
  for big pay before they even step onto the field, will the bubble eventually
• 53:37
  burst on these four and five stars that don't produce? In other words,
• 53:40
  do you think there will be more opportunities for walk ons and under recruited players
• 53:45
  to make it to the next level or are we just seeing a few other
• 53:50
  outliers recently. I think you're always going to miss on kids programs. Miss
• 53:58
  on kids. You could do an unbol believable book across the country on people
• 54:02
  that got under valued. So no, I don't think that part of it
• 54:07
  changes. I do think real quick, and I know we got a bunch
• 54:08
  of es to get there, so'll get this short. I do think development
• 54:10
  of guys is a concern moving forward, and I think that's one of the
• 54:14
  challenges a program like West Virginia is going to have moving forward. That's been
• 54:17
  something. This is what they do for and what makes it good, yeah,
• 54:21
  is the development, but the and again you know me, I'm in
• 54:23
  favor of players being able to move freely. I am, but I do
• 54:27
  recognize in the era when head coaches jobs are called for weekly and they don't
• 54:31
  stick more than five years in a lot of places, assistants move even more
• 54:35
  frequently than that, and players are moving more frequently. The development of guys
• 54:38
  that's going to be a challenge for programs. I quite frankly at this point,
• 54:42
  I don't know how you do that. Well. That's going to be
• 54:45
  something you really have to work on. Chris, and Hurricane has a lot
• 54:50
  of unhappiness. Brad. People hating on you are ridiculous. Thank you for
• 54:54
  the analysis you provide. I may not always agree, but you're insight,
• 54:59
  always well fought out, and I look forward to hearing it. I agree
• 55:01
  with the Texter that commented on the crowd ridiculous to see our world champion mountaineers
• 55:07
  run onto the field to a half empty stadium. The student section is always
• 55:12
  the last to get there, the first leave, Yet they fancy themselves as
• 55:15
  a good student section. What a joke. If Mountaineer Nation would channel its
• 55:21
  frustrations and hopes into getting into a getting in there and supporting the team,
• 55:25
  we could make a difference in a game of tight margins. Do your part,
• 55:29
  they need you, and it actually can make a difference. Three,
• 55:31
  guys, I'm sorry for rambling. Thank you to episode eight hundred and beyond
• 55:37
  Chris and Hurricane. I've changed my position on attendance in regard to I used
• 55:46
  to chastise people as well for not showing up or leaving early, and then
• 55:52
  Senator has convinced me through the years it's like, you can't like crowdshame.
• 55:57
  People are gonna come, people aren't going to come. But I would also
• 55:59
  say this to you when I talk to other people at other schools, it's
• 56:02
  all changed. They're not drawing like they used to draw. I think it's
• 56:07
  a combination of a couple of things that just continue. One was COVID.
• 56:12
  People learned that they could live without having to come to the games. Second,
• 56:15
  the technology is just so good to sit home and watch it. Three.
• 56:19
  Obviously, we're in a very very economic difficulty as far as cost goes
• 56:24
  and inflation goes, and it has become more expensive than ever before to come
• 56:29
  to games. I think all of those things, and then when you don't
• 56:30
  win on a consistent basis or enough as far as how much fans want to
• 56:36
  win, it all trickles down. But it's not just a WVU thing.
• 56:39
  I see it when we go town the road. I mean I'm looking at
• 56:42
  their student sections and things like that. So I think sometimes we our misperception
• 56:46
  grows when you go look at like Alabama and they just show shots of their
• 56:50
  student section and things like that. But it were not a whole lot different
• 56:54
  from the majority. Is I mean you see, well just that you know
• 57:00
  also Tony in terms of fans, I'm gonna talk about students, but other
• 57:02
  fans. Is that more than ever, kids today are involved in organized sport.
• 57:07
  So it might be a Saturday like can you go to the game?
• 57:10
  No, because this so and so and Susie's got so and so. You
• 57:14
  know, my kid has youth hockey and I got to drive to Pittsburgh.
• 57:17
  I mean, oh yeah, I get it wrong. Hey, do me,
• 57:21
  do me this, do me this? Read the next text, but
• 57:23
  not out loud. Read it and when is it? P one Jason and
• 57:31
  Tulsa. Read that and see if I should read it. If you guys
• 57:36
  will after the show go like, dude, you shouldn't have read that.
• 57:38
  Yeah, p one, just don't read it out loud. I want to
• 57:40
  go. I'm gonna go to another one and then you let me know,
• 57:43
  give me a green light or not on that one. I think it's done
• 57:45
  tongue in cheek and funny, but you know who knows. Nowadays, everybody's
• 57:50
  gotta cry m tie from ok kill. I forgot to ask in my last
• 57:57
  text, do we have any information from the annual Super Secret Double Probation basketball
• 58:01
  scrimmage inquiry? Minds want to know West Virginia lost in overtime. Josh Eiler
• 58:08
  played it that if a player got five files, he was done. Jerry
• 58:12
  Stackhouse, Vandy's coach, let his guys stay out there even after five files.
• 58:16
  You could do it anyway you want it. And so Josh said this
• 58:20
  week that you know, he thinks if his players would have been removed from
• 58:23
  the game at Vandy, they probably end up winning. There were twenty three
• 58:27
  There were twenty three lead changes in the game, so somewhere in the middle
• 58:31
  WVU George Mason Friday seven pm. Hard now on the text not even close,
• 58:37
  not even close hard. No, Hey, pe one, Jason and
• 58:40
  Tulsa, you know we love you like a brother. I've had breakfast with
• 58:44
  you. But that one just would cause more crap than it's worth. Texter,
• 58:50
  why ad hominem attack excuse me, ed hominum attack on it's I mean,
• 58:57
  with all due respect, Brad hominem attack on a particular profession. Yeah,
• 59:02
  so he said, with all this pointless I meaning pointless, just like
• 59:06
  you're just attacking a particular Yeah, yeah, profession, he said, with
• 59:08
  all due respecting there. I think that was his qualifier to try to get
• 59:12
  out of any trouble. You know what, with all due respect, we
• 59:15
  know that that means nothing. We know we say that just try to giggle
• 59:19
  see ya in there means nothing. All right, let's do this one.
• 59:21
  Why can't WV recruit and keep the best players in their own backyard. Here's
• 59:25
  a list of current NFL players from West Virginia other than Dante Stills. Which
• 59:30
  of them ever donned the old Golden Blue for any significant period of time.
• 59:36
  West Virginia natives currently on the NFL rosters. Tyson Pagent with the Bears Brenton
• 59:40
  Strange from Parkersburg playing for the Jaguars. Yeah, he wasn't recruited. That
• 59:45
  was in the last coaching staff, Darnell Wright with the Bears from Huntington.
• 59:52
  He also wasn't recruited by WVU. That was the other staff, Dreek Pitts
• 59:59
  from Charleston for Tampa. He had issues, right, he had some uh,
• 1:00:02
  he had some legal issues while he was here that I think expedited his
• 1:00:09
  departure. Trayvon Westco played here. Yeah, I mean Trayvon Westco played multiple
• 1:00:15
  seasons. He's pretty good at w V. I'm so happy for him.
• 1:00:17
  He's a good kid. Texter says, I'm out with my wife last weekend
• 1:00:24
  and I see a pair of crocs that Brad would really like. Look at
• 1:00:29
  those. No, that's not bright. Well, that's too much. Is
• 1:00:32
  that? You keep doing what you'all do. Take care of Steve from Morganton,
• 1:00:37
  there was an il deal. I'd wear those. I had no problem
• 1:00:42
  with crocs, tell you what reces. But for the Pontin boat Man,
• 1:00:45
  that's true there anywhere orange. It was orange all through my junior, high,
• 1:00:51
  high school, and college careers. Yeah, orange and black all the
• 1:00:53
  way through. I was there, don't I told you that story. Hoppy
• 1:00:58
  black orange, hoppy. I told you that story. I was in Iowa.
• 1:01:00
  Yeah, I was in Iowa having breakfast at this really neat like farmer
• 1:01:05
  farmed a table thing and there's a bunch of people are in there. Kid
• 1:01:07
  over there in a table had a black and orange, yeah, sweatsuit on.
• 1:01:12
  I walk over. I start looking at it. Wartburg College. Oh,
• 1:01:15
  the old boys Alma Water. Yeah. Did you ask him about brand?
• 1:01:20
  Nah, Brad, it's like ninety years old, those one hundred years
• 1:01:23
  ago. Speaking of lou Wendell Marine sales, Oh my gosh, what a
• 1:01:28
  what an unbelievable special they're offering right now, the twenty twenty through avalon twenty
• 1:01:32
  three eighty five entertainer. I mean, look at that craft, top of
• 1:01:37
  the line try tune model. You should try it outdoors. Waters. Yeah,
• 1:01:43
  you think it looks good there, Wait till you put it on water.
• 1:01:45
  It's the thing water, skiing, tubing, and of course, tremendous
• 1:01:51
  entertainment system on that thing. Lighted speakers, power steering, power assist,
• 1:01:55
  super neat teak floor covering, interior, exterior, led lights. That's the
• 1:02:00
  thing, man, it is the entertainer model from Avalon. Got a Honda
• 1:02:05
  one fifty on the back end of that thing. Three guys before the game,
• 1:02:09
  tell them you're three guys. Listener when you walk in, and that
• 1:02:12
  bad boy is yours for eighty nine seven seventy four, eighty nine, seven
• 1:02:15
  seventy four, eighty nine, seven seventy four Hot Got a bit at eighty
• 1:02:19
  nine seven to seventy four. Go to lout Wendel Marine Sales dot com closed,
• 1:02:24
  take a check. I'd wear those those RESI crocs on that thing,
• 1:02:27
  would you? Oh? Yeah, Hey, Brad, you're a you're a
• 1:02:30
  boater. Why do you need power steering on a on a boat? It's
• 1:02:35
  easier ask a dumb question, you get dumb answer. Okay, move on,
• 1:02:42
  moving on, Text her nothing there. I enjoy each show I listen
• 1:02:46
  watch on the YouTube's surprised to hear everyone say on the last show, where's
• 1:02:52
  Sarah Ann, West Virginia? My hero and my dad? George Kennedy is
• 1:02:55
  from Sarah Anne. Two Great Mountaineer Memories with Dad attending the first scam at
• 1:03:00
  Mountaineer Field September sixth eighty watching West Virginia Cincinnati and September the eleventh, eighty
• 1:03:06
  two. This was Neat Charleston Civic Center, closed circuit TV. West Virginia
• 1:03:09
  beats Oklahoma, signed by Chris from Johns Creek, Georgia. You know,
• 1:03:14
  I was thinking of that when I saw that, Like that used to be
• 1:03:15
  a thing. Remember big boxing matches you would go into you would go into
• 1:03:19
  an arena and watch it closed circuits. Yes, super neat good memories and
• 1:03:25
  hoped that the closed circuit worked. Yeah, that had got it lined up.
• 1:03:30
  Yeah, let's see here. I think the Senator was right to defend
• 1:03:35
  Neil previous episode. He's the coach. He understands the culture, what it
• 1:03:37
  means to the state in the region. However, I remember when this program
• 1:03:42
  pushed out a coach who understood what West Virginia means for going nine and four
• 1:03:46
  three years in a row. We replaced him with a coach who was good,
• 1:03:51
  but who never bought into the culture, and on his way out of
• 1:03:52
  the door said, you can't win with West Virginia recruits. I worry we
• 1:03:57
  made a Foustonian bargain and are paying continuing to pay the price. Reference to
• 1:04:02
  Jerry Faust, you'd have to be pretty old or remember that. I'd be
• 1:04:06
  first on the show. Yes, uh, three guys. I think that's
• 1:04:10
  I don't think they're talking about Jerry Faust, right, I think a Faustian,
• 1:04:14
  A Faustian bargain. Jerry, Remember Jerry Faust At Notre Dame. They
• 1:04:18
  made the wrong higher and that sent Notre Dame Mount into the Okay, I
• 1:04:23
  thought they would making a literary reference. Now, Okay, now I think
• 1:04:27
  we've been probably have more of a football reference than anyone. Our guys aren't
• 1:04:30
  hoppy. Our guys are not going to be quoting scholars love them. In
• 1:04:35
  twenty thirteen, when I moved into my dorm at UCF, I wore my
• 1:04:42
  favorite WVU football shirt. Ten years later, I'm head back to Orlando,
• 1:04:47
  where I had my undergrad experience, to see the World champions take on the
• 1:04:51
  UCF Knights. This time, I'll be wearing a new favorite WVU T shirt.
• 1:04:56
  Tony. As you scan the crowd during the broadcast, be sure to
• 1:04:59
  look out for flash of old gold with the words thanks for having us,
• 1:05:03
  Let's go Mountaineers. PS. I'd love to get my picture made with you
• 1:05:06
  while you're in my neck of the woods. Jesse, Morgantown to Tampa,
• 1:05:12
  No. I think I'm a Faustian bargain, a pact whereby a person trade
• 1:05:17
  something of moral or spiritual importance, something of value, or your soul for
• 1:05:24
  some worldly material benefit. Okay, they both could play right, both could
• 1:05:30
  be right. Like Jerry Foules, they notre Dame hired him out of high
• 1:05:32
  school to be their head coach. That was right on brand. You and
• 1:05:36
  I immediately think it must beat and the man over here thinks it Shakespeare.
• 1:05:42
  I don't think it's shape. But the point being is that is that I
• 1:05:45
  don't think hiring Jerry Fouss with a Faustian bargain, I mean, I think
• 1:05:47
  that was just a mistake. Justin from Princeton, New Jersey. He may
• 1:05:55
  be right. Justin from Princeton, New Jersey. I love listening to both
• 1:06:00
  three guys and talk line curious where did Greg Hunter? Coach is his nickname
• 1:06:05
  is coach. He definitely provides great insight, a great addition to the crew.
• 1:06:09
  Thank you, oh coach Hunter. Oh, he coached Let's do It
• 1:06:14
  the Packers. Then he was at Ohio State and then when you go he
• 1:06:17
  went West Coast right. He was at USC for a couple of years and
• 1:06:21
  then called it all quits when he was with the Dolphins, and uh they
• 1:06:29
  had that great run with Don Schuel on the undefeated team. I had to
• 1:06:32
  double check this because I couldn't remember Faust made a bargain with the devil.
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  Oh, we're back on this. Let it go. No one cares.
• 1:06:41
  Okay, but that does sound that's what he was talking about. He wasn't
• 1:06:46
  talking about Jerry. Okay. Uh, back to Greg, bring a little
• 1:06:51
  education to the program. I don't do that. Contenduing on talking about Jerry
• 1:06:57
  Faust, I mean you thinking it's so high Brown, You've been nothing but
• 1:07:00
  a pain in the ass the whole ship. I mean, you shoot down
• 1:07:03
  p one Jason's text out of Tulsa. You kill him at hominy, he
• 1:07:08
  gives us at homedy. Then he gets I got your ad hominem right here,
• 1:07:14
  Austian bargain. Yeah, esus, I saved you on that one.
• 1:07:17
  That's a save. NPR over here. He's trying to do a sports podcast.
• 1:07:25
  Can't you just let us be dumb and leave us alone. Let us
• 1:07:28
  think they're talking about a former Notre Dame coach. It's currently went fifty three.
• 1:07:31
  You're listening to all things sports? Is it getting hot in here a
• 1:07:35
  little why you get a little warm, walk over there and turn that thing
• 1:07:39
  down two degrees. We're the coach Hunter, coach Brad. You have his
• 1:07:45
  dossier over there, I do not. I didn't bring it today. South
• 1:07:47
  Middle School over there on the green back off green Bag Road. Hit a
• 1:07:53
  great run. He produced a lot of He had a kid that played at
• 1:07:57
  WU. Who was it? Is that? Right? Yeah? I think
• 1:07:59
  he did that's I think he did well. David Mayfield, he had David
• 1:08:02
  may Yes, yeah, David Mayfield, good one. Yeah, David Mayfield.
• 1:08:09
  What ran the forty and seven seven until Greg Hunter got hold of him
• 1:08:14
  and made him a four, made him a four to four forty guy.
• 1:08:15
  He'd hit you, wouldn't he hed, Yeah, he'd run into you.
• 1:08:18
  He'd make you change, he'd make you go to the dentist. Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  Absolutely. Rick and Jupiter, Florida, Good afternoon. I noticed watching replays
• 1:08:26
  of the Houston and Oak State losses that our line has lost its push,
• 1:08:30
  which was so dominant in games one through five. I see our guys getting
• 1:08:36
  pushed back and beaten. That wasn't happening prior. Big reason why the run
• 1:08:41
  game in short yards are not as effective. We can't have Garrett be our
• 1:08:45
  top rusher. That's the recipe for more losses, disaster, our O line,
• 1:08:50
  decrease in effectiveness, not being talked about much thoughts. Rick asked Jupiter,
• 1:08:55
  Florida, what's the grades? Looked like, Yeah, I was going
• 1:08:58
  to say, a senator, are you seeing that on a great Yeah?
• 1:09:00
  I mean, but again, I think we have talked about that a lot.
• 1:09:01
  The injuries have a lot to do with it. That's not your starting
• 1:09:03
  offensive line, so you've you not only lost Remac at the left guard,
• 1:09:09
  so you have to put somebody into replace him, but then you took Brandon
• 1:09:11
  Yet who's been your starting right guard, and had to move him over that
• 1:09:13
  that's changed the chemistry and the dynamics along that line. Now, we did
• 1:09:16
  mention grades. Nick Malone's come in at the at the left tackle when Myleam
• 1:09:19
  was out, and then they used him extensively last week, which I thought
• 1:09:23
  was a great move to go when they went on balance and brought the extra
• 1:09:26
  linement in, they moved Milam over a bunch and put Nick in over at
• 1:09:29
  the left side basically tight end position. That that was a great response.
• 1:09:32
  We talked last week was was Nick Malone able to come in and place some
• 1:09:35
  guard or he was only tackle. He's only taking snapples snaps at tackle,
• 1:09:40
  so that's probably the answer there. But they got they found a way to
• 1:09:43
  get their next best offensive lineman on the field, So I wouldn't be surprised
• 1:09:46
  if you continue to see this snapples, that's right text. This is we
• 1:09:53
  need some counseling here, I need council. Three guys, this is Charles
• 1:09:57
  in southwestern Virginia. I've been asked to ten the Virginia Tech game tonight against
• 1:10:01
  Syracuse for an employment related event. Everything is covered and the seats are great.
• 1:10:08
  However, it seems to be expected that I would wear a Virginia Tech
• 1:10:14
  gear while living in Wyoming. I would feel okay wearing a Wyoming hoodie,
• 1:10:18
  but this feels different. Should I refuse the gear and make things a bit
• 1:10:24
  awkward? Possibly? Or if I wear multiple layers of old gold and blue
• 1:10:28
  underneath to protect my body from that maroon sweatshirt? Should I do it?
• 1:10:31
  Signed by Charles So he'st he's been invited work thing at a tech game.
• 1:10:39
  They're playing Syracuse. Yeah, whar the gear? Where the Tech gear?
• 1:10:44
  Mm hmm? Nope, no, go wouldn't do it. Don't do it,
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  dude, If you don't feel good wearing that, it's not in your
• 1:10:53
  heart. Wouldn't do it. Now, if you got any kind of a
• 1:10:56
  liking for them, which is completely fine, then okay, go ahead put
• 1:10:59
  it on. But if it makes you, like feel uncomfortable, don't put
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  it on. I'd go generic, I'd go like, what was everybody wearing
• 1:11:09
  tech gear is at a thing? It's yeah, the people that he works
• 1:11:11
  with, they're all going to be wearing tech gear and he's a w Yeah,
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  I don't know. I mean, you know, what do you say,
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  Senator? Why y'all all of a sudden pulled Charlie Chaplin. That's a
• 1:11:19
  tough one. That's a tough one I have. I have worn gear of
• 1:11:27
  my non favorite team while watching my favorite team due to employment situation. Business.
• 1:11:32
  So if if I go by how I acted, I'd say I might
• 1:11:36
  have to wear a little bit. I've done that. Professional sporting that had
• 1:11:42
  to wear didn't have to. Thought it would be prudent to wear my personal
• 1:11:48
  opinion like me rather than my favorite team. If it made me feel uncomfortable,
• 1:11:51
  I wouldn't wear it. I wouldn't wear it text not a nice maroon
• 1:11:58
  shirt there. Should have told us earlier, would have run over during my
• 1:12:01
  shift at Daniels. Got some nice quarter zips there in fall colors, maroon,
• 1:12:05
  very popular fall color matches. The lead. You could fake them out,
• 1:12:08
  Yeah, could have sent one down there. You could fake them out
• 1:12:10
  like we're a nice Marino wool quarter zip there wear for other events. Show
• 1:12:15
  up in that and you would They think it's tech. But you wouldn't have
• 1:12:17
  to do exactly and your jacket compromise I would work. Yeah, you're jacking
• 1:12:24
  them. They don't know they're getting jacked your jacket. I'm going like,
• 1:12:27
  I got this, got this cutter buck quarter zip on that's maroon. You
• 1:12:30
  think I'm supporting Virginia Tech. I'm supporting Daniels Men's Store. Sorry, Charles,
• 1:12:33
  what a hook chap. Earlier I'd be pulling for Tech over Syracuse.
• 1:12:40
  Fine, that's a hard route there. Turned on the car this evening.
• 1:12:44
  Greeted by Marvin gay Little. Did I know that I needed some textual healing
• 1:12:47
  after these last two performances? What should the reasonable expectation be from here on
• 1:12:53
  in for the rest of the season. What do you do? Who knows,
• 1:13:01
  is it Well, it's I don't know no more. After Saturday.
• 1:13:08
  You could we spend saying it all week. There's a bunch of winnable games
• 1:13:10
  sitting right here in front of you. But you got but you get.
• 1:13:13
  Well, that's what it is. That's the reasonable expectation. You could win,
• 1:13:15
  you could lose as as goofy and as politician like as that's that's the
• 1:13:20
  reality of it. You really need, I think for job security, you
• 1:13:26
  need to get minimum six for job security. You get a bull Game's out
• 1:13:31
  there, there's there's there's what you need two wins to get to a bowl,
• 1:13:34
  two to three wins. That's out there. Go get it, Go
• 1:13:38
  get them. Hello, gentlemen, you get to you get to see you
• 1:13:40
  get to you get to seven, finish strong, go to a bull game.
• 1:13:44
  You keep your job. Hello, gentlemen. I used my West Virginia
• 1:13:47
  accounting degree and did some number crunching. This was interesting since West Virginia scored
• 1:13:54
  to go ahead of Pit fourteen to six. West Virginia's had fifty two offensive
• 1:13:59
  possess essions, not counting the end of halves. Thirty two of those possessions
• 1:14:04
  occurred when West Virginia did not have the lead. Twenty occurred when they had
• 1:14:10
  the lead. On the thirty two, when they did not have the lead,
• 1:14:15
  they've scored forty one percent of the time. On the twenty when they
• 1:14:19
  had the lead, they've only scored five percent of the time. So does
• 1:14:27
  this team have a problem with losing its aggression once they get ahead. I
• 1:14:32
  don't know if that means that. I don't know the interesting stat I don't
• 1:14:36
  know if that means that either, But that's an interesting stat. I thought
• 1:14:39
  that was really interesting, Texter. So you know what that means. Don't
• 1:14:45
  get the lead. Whatever you do works against you, Texter says. For
• 1:14:50
  the UCF game this week, me and thirty four of my closest friends and
• 1:14:56
  family needed tickets. Excuse me, thirty five they I needed thirty five total.
• 1:15:00
  Unfortunately, West Virginia could not secure those. So enter my x.
• 1:15:05
  No, wait, so enter my wife's he's got the guy divorced, So
• 1:15:09
  enter my wife's ex roommate's sisters fiance, who just happens to work in the
• 1:15:15
  ticket office there at UCNF able to get us thirty five seats section two three
• 1:15:21
  four for the game, thus making us a second mini visitors Section inside the
• 1:15:27
  bounce house. Moral of the story there is always a West Virginia connection.
• 1:15:32
  Hope I can be skipping out of there saying thanks for having us Nate in
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  the Canova Valley. I thought they announced that as a seller like back in
• 1:15:39
  the summer, though they get this. I bet the ticket guy was really
• 1:15:43
  pleased to get that call. Who now connected to No you know, you
• 1:15:47
  know the ticket guy was happy to get that call because he sold thirty five
• 1:15:49
  ticket. He was happy to get that, Okay, Texter. I am
• 1:15:54
  texting in a prepared statement that I am making on behalf of the greater Kaiser
• 1:16:00
  metriplex area. This includes, but is not limited to Kaiser, New Creek,
• 1:16:05
  Burlington, Fountain Ford, Ashby, Paiedmont, and Rocket Center, West
• 1:16:12
  Virginia on behalf of the surrounding area. We love Brad. We are shocked
• 1:16:15
  by the name calling in terrible texts. That is all signed David Kaiser.
• 1:16:20
  Thank you DV Texter. I think I speak for myself when I say,
• 1:16:25
  Brad more swearing is not the worst thing. I think everyone should just start
• 1:16:29
  letting it rip more in these times. Signed by Chase and Houston did have
• 1:16:34
  it. I would like to have it back though, But thank you,
• 1:16:36
  Chase, that's right, you dropped the big S word on Texter. A
• 1:16:43
  recent New York Times article asserts that starters on the top college football programs are
• 1:16:47
  now getting paid one hundred and three thousand dollars average by boosters. I don't
• 1:16:53
  have a subscription to the Time, so I couldn't read the article. But
• 1:16:56
  how is this sustainable? We already have put nil into at least two bad
• 1:17:00
  basketball players who aren't even gonna be playing for us this year, and last
• 1:17:02
  year a big signing a QB didn't even play well enough to make it through
• 1:17:05
  the season. Shawn and Florida sustainable, Texter. Other things aren't gonna get
• 1:17:14
  money. You're just gonna change where the money's going. No, No,
• 1:17:18
  revenue keeps going up every year in college sports. No, just none of
• 1:17:21
  it goes to the player. Now some of it's going to the players.
• 1:17:23
  So you're gonna you're not gonna have three waterfalls in a locker room. You're
• 1:17:27
  not gonna put a slide in a locker room. Ye, you're not gonna
• 1:17:29
  put a putt putt course in your locker room, as some have done.
• 1:17:31
  Texter, What is missing? What is the missing Mojo of the Mighty Mountaineers.
• 1:17:36
  Hashtag bb HB bring back Hoppy's bell. I do miss the bell,
• 1:17:43
  Go get them. This is T Bone in Roanoak, Virginia. We met
• 1:17:46
  in ron Saffort this summer there. He is ps not to be confused with
• 1:17:50
  hot Rod from Woodbridge, Virginia. Yeah, there's Tea bo See. I
• 1:17:54
  screwed that up last week when that was that was hot Rod had written in.
• 1:17:58
  I got confused with Tea on T Bone. You're our dude. Man.
• 1:18:00
  We love you, buddy, Thank you so much. Hot Rod too,
• 1:18:03
  but T Bone, yeah that was fun to I'm sure we love He's
• 1:18:08
  got a bell in his hand. Bell he got a bell? Could I
• 1:18:11
  could? I mean I still have the bell. I just forget to bring
• 1:18:13
  it down. Not only he is one of the rare original three Guys shirts.
• 1:18:16
  There not many of those produced. No, that's awesome. Uh,
• 1:18:20
  Texter, thank you very good to see a T Bone. You're the dude.
• 1:18:25
  He's the one that hosts He's the one that hosts the podcast that talks
• 1:18:28
  about the community he lives in. Hey, guys, this is Joe Mack
• 1:18:31
  on the Outskirts of Austin. Just want to let you know that coach Stevenson
• 1:18:36
  is alive and well and playing for the Spurs G League team. Even though
• 1:18:44
  he might not be a P one listener like me, he is a huge
• 1:18:46
  fan of your podcast. He promises he'll come to Morgantown and appear on Three
• 1:18:50
  Guys after the season. So that's mock who I mocked last winter when we
• 1:18:57
  went to eat at that barbecue place kept I kept crushing him for repeated podcasts
• 1:19:02
  that he didn't need enough. He got a nice plate there that looks Chinese
• 1:19:05
  to me, I did it. I broke. I looked at the I
• 1:19:08
  zoomed in, I go where, like, what is that looks China?
• 1:19:11
  I was gonna say, it looks like it almost like a breakfast diner too,
• 1:19:13
  but I think you might be around the Chinese. Yeah, either one,
• 1:19:15
  pound them both. Hey, Joe, you just make sure Eric getting
• 1:19:17
  good fuel, good food. He needs to play. Yeah, so he's
• 1:19:21
  on the G League. Yeah, yeah, he's a. He's yeah,
• 1:19:25
  he's a. He's a. He's good. I talked to him last Friday.
• 1:19:27
  Did you watched the whole practice with him? Here? He left on
• 1:19:30
  Saturday to go down to Austin, and I talked to him, and I
• 1:19:33
  was just gonna say, Joe next time. Yeah, he opened invitation whenever
• 1:19:35
  he's back. Yeah, he knows that, he knows that. Uh,
• 1:19:40
  dear three guys, we should go to We should go there. And what
• 1:19:43
  do you what? I think you know that? What Daniels ever tell you?
• 1:19:55
  I got fast hands? Yeah? What was your fast hands thing?
• 1:20:00
  You said it with all seriousness. You tried to convince that was in rons
• 1:20:05
  for that was in Greenberg County. We're driving well known, Uh what happened?
• 1:20:11
  What was that brand? I can't remember like well known? Like no
• 1:20:19
  one. First of all, it may not be true. And second of
• 1:20:21
  all, no one knows that we thinking about Tony. Why aren't you come
• 1:20:26
  on over here and find out never known you for forty years, never heard
• 1:20:30
  that you're lucky? So you know what that curt faster never Now it goes
• 1:20:36
  back to the fencing place. That's when I wrote a dope to win the
• 1:20:41
  fencing championship in college. Yeah, oh yeah, Genesee physics is oh yeah,
• 1:20:50
  sure, attack poor Genesee, poor Geneseo. Fiz that Fred Bright,
• 1:20:56
  great professor well known fence textor this is professor Vinnie. People often stop me
• 1:21:03
  on the Street and say, hey, Professor Vinnie, how come your text
• 1:21:08
  get read on three guys? How can we attain a very high trop rate
• 1:21:13
  like yourself text read on podcast? I simply say, well, I don't
• 1:21:19
  talk about football. To be honest, I don't know enough to speak intelligently
• 1:21:23
  as the guys on the subject. Why don't you text something that Why text
• 1:21:28
  on something that one thousand other people have already sent text on related to the
• 1:21:30
  game. You want to stand out, you need to differentiate yourself like Charley
• 1:21:35
  from Midlothian or the real Morgan from Morgantown. Just a little advice for those
• 1:21:41
  listeners who want their fifteen minutes of fame text on Yeah, Dane and Frostburg
• 1:21:46
  heading down to Orlando for the game. Any top food or bar choices around
• 1:21:50
  the stadium that you know of hoping for a solid turnout from Mounts to your
• 1:21:55
  nation. I'm zippo on that, my friend, I have no idea.
• 1:21:58
  Might be a good place to go seafood? Yeah, it would be.
• 1:22:01
  I'm debating whether to go out, Oh really about whether to what to go
• 1:22:06
  eat? What do you mean you're not gonna eat? Well, I'll probably
• 1:22:10
  eat, but the world champion basketballers are on at seven and the games at
• 1:22:15
  noon, which means we'll leave the we'll leave the room at seven in the
• 1:22:17
  morning. Like, yeah, you might go room service. No, but
• 1:22:23
  something. They got that grub hub thing now they just drive a car up
• 1:22:26
  to your hotel and give you food. Crazy how they do that. You
• 1:22:30
  might need to do that. Yeah, Texter, how do you get the
• 1:22:33
  game? ESPN plus? Oh, good luck and start Friday at four there,
• 1:22:43
  should start wiring it up now, sure you got your account pass far
• 1:22:46
  Hey you see rich One again last night speaking to ESPN and he was on
• 1:22:50
  CBS last night, but they won again. They play every Tuesday and Wednesday.
• 1:22:56
  They're on you know what they're on every week. Well, you don't
• 1:23:00
  think you don't think that. Yeah, trying to break through the clutter of
• 1:23:02
  Saturday gets you a week night game Westream Road that Thursday night Wednesday night.
• 1:23:06
  Yeah, he's got seven w's. He still has to go play, uh
• 1:23:11
  Shane Biemer in South Carolina. Oh, probably doesn't end well. And then
• 1:23:15
  he's got like New Mexico. I think he's got three left and he's got
• 1:23:19
  seven yeah, seven and two. He's all right, not eligible for a
• 1:23:25
  Bowl because of the transition to D one, so they kind of get scroogey,
• 1:23:30
  kind of like James Madison. They should schedule a game. Yeah,
• 1:23:35
  uh, Texter, here comes a heater, Brad, with all due respect
• 1:23:41
  that was disappointed in your remarks on the last show toward those of us that
• 1:23:45
  are pining for a return to relevance. Two things, I take exception.
• 1:23:49
  Two players do deserve blame for failure on the field. But isn't Neil ultimately
• 1:23:54
  responsible? He's failed year after year to build a competitive roster. You continue
• 1:24:00
  to bring up scheduling while you and Tony have convinced me that West Virginia should
• 1:24:02
  not have two Power fives every year. It's hardly the reason that Neil is
• 1:24:08
  on the hot seat. Hardly, it's not accurate, but go ahead.
• 1:24:12
  Attendance is down, costing the program millions in ticket revenue. And here's an
• 1:24:18
  interesting fact that some in academia don't like to say out loud. The enrollment
• 1:24:24
  struggles at the university have a lot to do with the mediocrity of the football
• 1:24:28
  program. West Virginia fans don't expect to be a highest state, but we
• 1:24:32
  do expect to be better than Rutger and right now, I don't think we
• 1:24:36
  are. I like Neil, but his seat all them in schedule that game
• 1:24:41
  like now, but go ahead. I like Neil, but his seat deserves
• 1:24:45
  Can I respond anywhere you go? Yeah, okay, go ahead. I
• 1:24:48
  like Neil, but his seat deserves to be red hot to start the season.
• 1:24:51
  It deserves to be scorching now. I don't envy Wren Baker and don't
• 1:24:56
  claim to have all the answers. I just know something has to change and
• 1:25:00
  we need to get out of the desert of irrelevance. Love the show.
• 1:25:02
  You guys are the best. Thanks for letting an irrational fan like myself textually
• 1:25:08
  heal A couple of quick observations Matt, and thank you very much for listening.
• 1:25:15
  They're in tulser I think you're overestimating the enrollment based upon a sports team's
• 1:25:25
  success. Do I know fully well, Yes, that applications increase when a
• 1:25:30
  team has success. Yes, But to say that it has caused this massive
• 1:25:40
  No. There's a bunch of reasons why college enrollment isn't going well. They've
• 1:25:45
  cost themselves out. True, COVID has shown that you don't need to go
• 1:25:49
  to a Brooks and Mortar school. There's great opportunities to make a ton of
• 1:25:54
  money without a college degree, more so than ever before. And those are
• 1:26:00
  like big reasons why in the demographic cliff. And if you're picking your school
• 1:26:05
  based upon that team's football or basketball success, you're probably not smart enough to
• 1:26:11
  go to school in my opinion. If that's the reason why, Now,
• 1:26:15
  if it's the program that you want and the team has success, that's a
• 1:26:17
  nice little added benefit. But if it's like I'm going there because their team's
• 1:26:21
  good, you got other issues that you're going to be dealing with. But
• 1:26:25
  anyway, you're absolutely you know your comments are fair, But that one was
• 1:26:30
  overhyped. Speaking of season tickets, he said, tickets cost me. Do
• 1:26:36
  you realize basketball women's and men's basketball have sold more season tickets this year than
• 1:26:44
  last year? Really? Yes? Interesting on the men's side, three or
• 1:26:49
  four weeks ago, they eclipsed what they did last season, which one I
• 1:26:54
  went like, why do you think that is? I have zero idea,
• 1:26:58
  zero, Brad, You're that's your area. Fans just want support, see
• 1:27:00
  the team show their support on a season that's been thrown into chaos and trying
• 1:27:06
  to rally the troops. Is that what it is? You guys worry a
• 1:27:13
  lot more about ticket sales than I do. I don't think about anymore.
• 1:27:15
  He left. You've become an old man though About parking? What well that
• 1:27:21
  one time you went over and you couldn't find a parking space? Well,
• 1:27:25
  yeah, you ever heard that one? No? What, it's the best
• 1:27:28
  whatever. He's gonna go to the basketball game, drives up. You know.
• 1:27:35
  I like to get to places early. Yes, yes, I couldn't
• 1:27:40
  arrive earlier doing a show. Yeah, I'll had to do a show left
• 1:27:44
  to go over to the game afterwards. One of those goofy s C B
• 1:27:46
  I, M C I whatever. What was that thing called something like that?
• 1:27:50
  One of those extra tournaments to get in sponsored by the son, sponsored
• 1:27:57
  by the male. They made that comicals for men, So mail hands one
• 1:28:01
  of those. So I found the show here, saved the file, did
• 1:28:03
  all the stuff there you got to do. Got my car drive over,
• 1:28:05
  following Coach Hunter over the game. Okay, I'll see inside Coach Hunter going
• 1:28:10
  over the game. I get over there, there are no parking I mean
• 1:28:13
  they were all the way down the boulevard. It was all the way around.
• 1:28:15
  I circled around twice, said, you know what, I'm out Go
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  Home is on TV. I'll watch it set my house, pullstat broadcast up,
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  look at the numbers, and watch the game. There you go.
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  Yeah, and then parking spot left. That's why you don't hear me get
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  on people for not going to games or not having parking. I don't do
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  that if you don't want to go to the game because it's there's challenges.
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  I totally get that, right, Yeah, yeah, And how often do
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  we talk about TV. No, but you didn't get into a league because
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  of attendance numbers. Right, everybody wants to scream about attendance. You got
• 1:28:46
  to have some people watching on TV. Yeah, you were there to support
• 1:28:49
  them. Somebody's got to watch on TV to give you ratings if that's the
• 1:28:53
  only thing that's going to matter in conferencey alignment. I was doing my part
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  that night, Hoppy. I was watching on TV to help the rating number,
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  rating number. All those people have to watch on TV last one.
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  So that is true. I did do that. That was funny. That
• 1:29:05
  was a couple of years ago. Very brad like. Uh, he likes
• 1:29:09
  to get the places early. If I don't get there early, it causes
• 1:29:13
  stress. He gets all he gets all uncomfortable, you. I'm telling you
• 1:29:17
  you should see him when when we're doing our broadcast in the game is only
• 1:29:21
  ESPN plus. He's tight. I mean, he's so tight. I like,
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  you know, I'm pretty. I don't say much. Just let him
• 1:29:30
  be crazy. Yeah, I just like, most of the time it's letty.
• 1:29:33
  Most of the time, it's people letting you do you're crazy. But
• 1:29:35
  when you see him crazy, then it forces you to pull back. Yeah.
• 1:29:39
  That's why I drive him nuts because like I'm sitting around like I don't
• 1:29:43
  what is it three seconds before airtime? Like I'm walking out, Well what
• 1:29:46
  is it? Okay, fine, thing the thing, let's go. And
• 1:29:48
  he's Brad's tight bred has tight for two You remember when to be tight,
• 1:29:55
  He's got to you remember when you started hosting sports line, like you had
• 1:29:59
  everything written, like you would have everything that the open like good evening,
• 1:30:02
  lationship, welcome to the city, that state wide spots line tonight on the
• 1:30:05
  program. Our phone number is one eight hundred and seven six five eight.
• 1:30:09
  You had it all. Yeah, preparation, Yeah, I know, here's
• 1:30:13
  okay. This is a story on quick story on Tony. You probably don't
• 1:30:15
  remember this. This was years and years ago, so I was I was.
• 1:30:20
  It was a women's basketball game, women's basketball game, and I was
• 1:30:25
  there till this was before I didn't. I was there to like learn,
• 1:30:27
  I was gonna sit and observe and see what happens. And whoever was supposed
• 1:30:30
  to do it, I think wasn't didn't calm or something, and they called
• 1:30:33
  you, and so it's come up on airtime coming up, and whoever was
• 1:30:39
  doing the game, you know, producing game, said Hoppa, you better
• 1:30:42
  get ready because you may have to do the game. I mean it's looked
• 1:30:44
  like two minutes beforehand, all of a sudden, Hi, everybody, welcome
• 1:30:55
  in this afternoon at the Colisee and Miss w women's team taking on the temple
• 1:30:59
  out for West. I mean you came in, sat down, did the
• 1:31:03
  game. Yeah, I mean because that's what I do. I mean,
• 1:31:06
  there's a there's and there's ninety nine point nine percent things that I can't do.
• 1:31:10
  But that's the one thing that I can do. So like anybody else,
• 1:31:14
  right like, if they said, hey, go in there and fix
• 1:31:16
  that faucet that's leaking right now, I'd go, like, you give it
• 1:31:19
  a shot. Yeah. Last text feels like I can't remember a more unlucky
• 1:31:25
  coach than Neil. He didn't tell his guys to give up a scoop and
• 1:31:28
  score at tech or his best player to snap the ball over the quarterback's head
• 1:31:31
  when you're about to beat the number four team in the country at their place,
• 1:31:34
  or have a dropped past lead to a pick six running back get hurt
• 1:31:39
  as you're about to beat the eventual national champion runner ups hail Mary on your
• 1:31:43
  return blocker blow up his own man. Let's be honest, if that doesn't
• 1:31:47
  happen. That one single Mountaineer fan is calling for his job, and he's
• 1:31:51
  probably on most schools. Can we get him list at some point? The
• 1:31:57
  breaks have to go West Virginia's hey, right, you know, Brad one
• 1:32:02
  one thing, and I know there have been injuries. I understand that you
• 1:32:04
  linebacker and at safety, but one of the things that's missing. How many
• 1:32:09
  times when that defense was playing really well, did we say, here's a
• 1:32:12
  guy making a play, here's a guy making a play, here's a guy
• 1:32:15
  making a play. And that seems like that's been absent for those last two
• 1:32:16
  games. Yeah, that's kind of that was my point on the last episode.
• 1:32:19
  I mean, guys have to get back to making plays. And there's
• 1:32:21
  situational things that come up. That's what we talked about this. The style
• 1:32:26
  of each game is different and certainly allows guys to make plays, but at
• 1:32:30
  the end of the day, that's it. This guys on this particular team
• 1:32:32
  are gonna have to go out and make plays to win games, and that's
• 1:32:34
  gonna fall a lot on the defense. The offense will have to do it.
• 1:32:38
  But if the offense can keep moving like it is, the defense is
• 1:32:40
  the one that has to come up this week and find a way to plug
• 1:32:43
  those holes. It can't misfit like it did all last week in the fourth
• 1:32:46
  quarter against all I Gordon. It just can't or it's gonna be another loss.
• 1:32:49
  Yeah, guys have to make plays, all right, music's not on.
• 1:32:53
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