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Hour Two | Coach Kim Mulkey Joins The Show · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
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  Speaker 1: and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.
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  Speaker 1: The plays get broken down, then science gets denied to
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  Speaker 1: come off the bench. Hour two of Off the Bench
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  Speaker 1: Live from the Raising Kanes Studio.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number two ot B here live
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  Speaker 2: from the Raizorcines Studio. Always our pleasure on Wednesdays to
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  Speaker 2: welcome on our next guest. It is our guy, doctor
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  Speaker 2: Steven Aantherrich. What's going on, Doc? How we doing doing great?
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  Speaker 2: All right? So I'm gonna start off with an injury.
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  Speaker 2: I think we talked about last week, but it's just
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  Speaker 2: it feels like it's just showing up more and more
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  Speaker 2: and more concussions and quarterbacks in the NFL. We talked
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  Speaker 2: about Jackson Dart I believe it was last week. Now CJ. Stroud,
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  Speaker 2: Texans quarterback. He's going to be out versus the Bills
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  Speaker 2: on Thursday Night football. And like the concussion protocol like
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  Speaker 2: is it kind of the same like almost everywhere? Like
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  Speaker 2: is there like a hey, this national board said this,
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  Speaker 2: and this is what we're going to follow. Because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like in I don't know if you ever went
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  Speaker 2: through any concussions, like, but for me, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: maybe all of mine were a little bit different, like
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  Speaker 2: at least from my experience. So when you're dealing with concussions,
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  Speaker 2: is it kind of across the board, Hey, here's what
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  Speaker 2: we're looking for.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty similar.
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  Speaker 4: There are some differences that the NFL, for example, has
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  Speaker 4: an independent neurologist.
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  Speaker 3: Not every league uses that.
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  Speaker 4: There's certain subtle differences and just kind of the minutia
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  Speaker 4: and the rules, but it's basically the same. You're gonna
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna start with obviously an official diagnosis, and then
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  Speaker 4: from there you move forward and there's always going to
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  Speaker 4: be some kind of gradual return to play. It's never
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  Speaker 4: a hey, I feel better, okay, go play football. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's okay, you're feeling better. Let's have you get on
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  Speaker 4: the treadmill, let's have you on a bike. Let's start
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  Speaker 4: off kind of like and easy, because a lot of
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  Speaker 4: times guys will feel good and then their heart rate
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  Speaker 4: gets up, and even if we're not talking about any contact,
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  Speaker 4: they start getting headaches, start having symptoms.
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  Speaker 3: So I want to slowly progress you back and make
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  Speaker 3: sure you're better.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of neurologic neurocognitive tests, looking at your balance,
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  Speaker 4: look at your reaction times, and a lot of different
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  Speaker 4: things we utilize, and like I said, there is differences,
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  Speaker 4: but it's basically the same from lead to league.
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  Speaker 5: So Dougle when you look at concussions, so we all
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  Speaker 5: kind of know it as like a brain bruise, basically
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  Speaker 5: your brain hit in side your head. I know there's
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  Speaker 5: like circles, final fluid that's like you're padding or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But like everybody recovers a little bit different, and it's
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  Speaker 5: understandable that there would be like different severities to concussions.
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  Speaker 5: But this might be a dumb question, but like is
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  Speaker 5: there any proven treatments for typecussion besides just rest? I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I know, like like blood flow heels and blood is
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  Speaker 5: like the healing factor in the body, and like you
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  Speaker 5: do things that other acute injuries around the body, it's
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  Speaker 5: like you want to increase blood flow to that area
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  Speaker 5: to help healing. Is there a way is there ever
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  Speaker 5: been anything that's helped the treatment of a concussion.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of stuff out there that is being tried.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of sort of anecdotal data that maybe
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  Speaker 4: there's some little things that we can do here and there.
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  Speaker 4: There's certain things, and you know you're gonna hear about
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  Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff. If somebody goes in the internet
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  Speaker 4: and you google concussion treatment, you have a million things
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  Speaker 4: pop up because it's such a big topic, and honestly,
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  Speaker 4: it's one we don't really have a great treatment for
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  Speaker 4: other than rest.
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  Speaker 3: It really is the main thing.
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  Speaker 4: You kind of got to let the body and specifically
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  Speaker 4: the brain get better and the problem.
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  Speaker 3: You know y'all mentioned well, I had a couple. They
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  Speaker 3: were different.
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  Speaker 4: It's it is the most probably frustrating diagnosis we have
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  Speaker 4: because it's there's no perfect test right now. Now I
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  Speaker 4: can't show you on an X ray there is your
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  Speaker 4: concussion m RI, I C T scan whatever everything else.
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  Speaker 2: You're you know, you've seen it a thousand times and yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is that.
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  Speaker 4: And then once you have it, they're all different and
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  Speaker 4: even the same individual, you know, because you'll talk to
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  Speaker 4: your teammate. I'll think he's back in a week and
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  Speaker 4: I'm you know, a month in and I'm still having symptoms.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's a lot of variability. It's not always easy.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's it's very scrutinized. That's just one of those
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  Speaker 4: things that's a rough, rough diagnosis all around.
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  Speaker 5: So is it like a good assumption, like when we
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  Speaker 5: just generally know it as like a brain bruise, Is
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  Speaker 5: that like really what it is? And then if so,
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter like where on the brain, like what
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  Speaker 5: part of the brain hit.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's a good way to look at it,
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  Speaker 4: because that's kind of what it is. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: basically an injury to the brain. It's an injury to
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  Speaker 4: the brain that typically does not show up on imaging.
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  Speaker 4: There's some newer tests out there that we're trying to
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  Speaker 4: develop functional MRIs and using utilizing EEGs, but even those
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  Speaker 4: are gonna be really expensive. You're not gonna be able
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  Speaker 4: to get them quick and it's gonna be a while
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  Speaker 4: before we have a good test.
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  Speaker 3: So it's kind of a bruise that you can't see.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of inflammation.
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  Speaker 4: We know that much that the location of the brain
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  Speaker 4: does affect definitely the symptoms because you know, we know
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  Speaker 4: different parts of the brain control different things, So you know,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes it's gonna be more headaches, sometimes it's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: more memory emotional.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've had guys that you know, I'll never forget.
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  Speaker 4: I had a young kid, a high school kid, just
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  Speaker 4: bawling on the sideline, just just waterfall tears. Could not
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  Speaker 4: explain to me why. He's like, I don't know why crying.
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  Speaker 4: He had a concussion. He's like, I'm not that upset,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not whatever. Just could not stop it. And it's
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  Speaker 4: just interesting. The brain is such a history, crazy thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I have never even really thought about like
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  Speaker 5: the concussion being an injury to the brain. You understand that,
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  Speaker 5: but like different locations of the brain would magnify a different.
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  Speaker 2: Response to it. It's pretty wild. Yeah. Look, when you
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  Speaker 2: have one, you've got plenty. Yeah, when you have one,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's quite the experience. And then like when people
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  Speaker 2: tell you, like, no, you were doing this, it's like
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  Speaker 2: that like you were, Actually we're doing this. And so
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  Speaker 2: I just feel like we're seeing more of those quarterbacks, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like Dylan Gabriel. Yeah I don't. Yeah, I don't feel
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  Speaker 2: like we now maybe to Doc's point, I mean, now
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  Speaker 2: you get buzzed down and they've got a neurologist up
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  Speaker 2: there in the NFL. Maybe we did see and we
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  Speaker 2: just didn't know it. But like when I was playing
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  Speaker 2: like I don't. I don't remember quarterbacks getting concussions, right,
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  Speaker 2: but there wasn't a ton and now the rules are
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  Speaker 2: supposed to protect them more than ever. And this is
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  Speaker 2: where you're seeing it because there's so many rules like
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  Speaker 2: running more too.
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  Speaker 5: In the NFL, you got so much, so many rules
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  Speaker 5: protecting the quarterback, like rough the passer is a joke now,
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  Speaker 5: but like so most of the injuries are from the ground. Well,
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  Speaker 5: quarterbacks been hitting the ground in football for one hundred years,
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  Speaker 5: and apparently the helmet technology has improved, so like there
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  Speaker 5: had to been just tens of thousands undiagnosed before this
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  Speaker 5: all happened. Because helmets are better, you're not like getting
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  Speaker 5: concussions most of the time, at least as a quarterback
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  Speaker 5: from getting hit by another person. It's usually the ground
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  Speaker 5: that causes it.
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  Speaker 4: My god, yeah, I think I think diagnostics is a
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  Speaker 4: big part of it. Where I mean, I think back
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  Speaker 4: to when I played in high school through college. I
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  Speaker 4: can only remember one guy getting diagnosed with the concussion.
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  Speaker 4: This is a guy who could not walk outside in
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  Speaker 4: the daylight because it was that bad. And there may
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  Speaker 4: been a couple others, you know, because that I don't
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  Speaker 4: don't recall, but I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember. Definitely weren't many, you know, in high school.
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  Speaker 3: I remember none.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of those things where, you know, I think
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  Speaker 4: we obviously are way more aware of it now. That's
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  Speaker 4: that's probably a bigger part. And then you know the
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  Speaker 4: style of play. You know, we talked about that a
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  Speaker 4: little bit with Dart. You know, he's his style. Well,
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  Speaker 4: you know those guys are going to see it a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more.
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  Speaker 2: You dive head first as a defender.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh uh, Doc, Let's let's turn our focus to
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  Speaker 5: a different part of the body. We saw Michael Pinnox
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  Speaker 5: this past week get injured, taken off the field, and
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  Speaker 5: the diagnosis has come with a season ending injury to
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  Speaker 5: his knee. That would make I believe five of the
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  Speaker 5: last eight seasons of him playing football, whether college or pros,
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  Speaker 5: that he has had an injury that made him miss
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  Speaker 5: the rest of the season. I think most of them
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  Speaker 5: have been I think it was a shoulder, but I
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  Speaker 5: think most of them have been knee injuries. So I
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  Speaker 5: kind of want to talk to you about reoccurring ACL injuries,
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  Speaker 5: reoccurring ligament injury that that you see that it needs reconstruction,
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  Speaker 5: You need different different techniques, and I know in reconstructive
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  Speaker 5: surgery it is like you're using different parts of the
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  Speaker 5: body or cadavers or different different things to fix. But
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  Speaker 5: what happens when you reinjured the same thing after it's
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  Speaker 5: been reconstructed?
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  Speaker 2: What is that surgery? Like? What's that recovery process?
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  Speaker 5: How does it differ from like afresh the first time
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  Speaker 5: you get injured.
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  Speaker 4: Well a lot depends on how long it is in
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  Speaker 4: between it, how bad was each injury, so across the board.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of hard to say, but but yes, if
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  Speaker 4: you keep injuring the same thing, the same knee, for example,
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  Speaker 4: it is gonna become more difficult.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna have more because for one.
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  Speaker 4: Part of how we fix these is we use graph
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  Speaker 4: from other part part of the knee, typically the hamstring,
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  Speaker 4: the ptellerton and the quad tendon. Well, we can't keep
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  Speaker 4: going back to the same source, So for one, you're
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  Speaker 4: going to have to change where it's coming from. So
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  Speaker 4: you're going to have more scar tissue in different areas.
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  Speaker 4: So not just the ACL but you know, if we
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  Speaker 4: take a pateellerton in one time hamstring, that's two different
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  Speaker 4: parts of the body. It might have a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of scar and typically people do okay with that, but
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  Speaker 4: again the more you accumulate that, and then the other
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  Speaker 4: thing you really worry about a lot of these knee
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  Speaker 4: injuries is sometimes get some cartilage damage. Maybe not even
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  Speaker 4: something that's obvious right out of the gate, but you
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  Speaker 4: know if as the bone kind of hits together, because
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  Speaker 4: that's what happens with the ACL, is the two bones
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  Speaker 4: kind of hit together, and if you get some bone contusions,
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  Speaker 4: you get a little cartilage injury. Then you get the
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  Speaker 4: same thing happening again and again you know that's a
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  Speaker 4: knee that's gonna have more problems. You're gonna have the
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  Speaker 4: guys that you're gonna see swelling in the knee down
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  Speaker 4: the road. You're gonna see a lot of these issues,
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  Speaker 4: and then you run the risk of failure. I think
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  Speaker 4: I think this time with the pendix, it is actually
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  Speaker 4: the other knee, if I'm not mistaken, So he hadn't
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  Speaker 4: injured this one. And I think we talked about that
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  Speaker 4: a few weeks back, that some of the there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of reasons why guys injure their acls, and some
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  Speaker 4: of us just the way we're made, We're all made
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  Speaker 4: a little different. There's differences in the knee. And then
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  Speaker 4: you consider after an injury, you're gonna favor things, You're
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  Speaker 4: gonna you're gonna rely more on that other leg, so
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  Speaker 4: maybe you're putting more stress on it.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Variables that go into this.
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  Speaker 4: We do know that if you tear one knee, your
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  Speaker 4: likelihood of tearing the other acled is increased anywhere from
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  Speaker 4: five to ten fold over the average population.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, so why is that just because of
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  Speaker 2: the favoring of the one that you did already?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both. So
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  Speaker 4: you're favoring it. So you know, if I injer my
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  Speaker 4: right knee, I'm just naturally gonna put more more pressure
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  Speaker 4: on that left. Plus you have some time when you're down,
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  Speaker 4: so even though you're trying to stay in shape, that
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  Speaker 4: left knees you might get a little weak or two.
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  Speaker 4: And then there are some of the genetic predispositions that
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  Speaker 4: people sometimes have.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a little bit of all the above.
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  Speaker 5: So when you rea you're an acl you said you
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  Speaker 5: use graphing from other parts of the knee or that
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  Speaker 5: same ligament.
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  Speaker 2: And you repair it. Is it ever.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure that Brocket is, but like other places, is
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  Speaker 5: it ever back to one hundred percent or is it
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  Speaker 5: like ninety percent of strength? When it's fully healed with
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  Speaker 5: a repaired ACL, it.
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  Speaker 3: Can get back to full strength.
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  Speaker 4: In fact, sometimes your likelihood of retearing is less because
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  Speaker 4: you have a better ACL. Sometimes, especially if you were
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  Speaker 4: one of these individuals. Maybe some people you'll see some
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  Speaker 4: people are more loose to begin with. Some people maybe
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  Speaker 4: had a thinner ligament to begin with, so we might
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  Speaker 4: get you a little bit more robust. And they've actually
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  Speaker 4: shown that you're actually if you have a good surgery,
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  Speaker 4: you're probably more likely to tear the other one because
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  Speaker 4: of all those earth things we just talked about than retearing,
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  Speaker 4: as long as you take the appropriate time to heal,
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  Speaker 4: that's the other thing.
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  Speaker 3: Give it time to heal.
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  Speaker 4: If you try to go back too early, that that
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  Speaker 4: that data is kind of skewykin.
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  Speaker 5: I like like if you get enough like screws and
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  Speaker 5: plates put on you and you're like unbreakable, unbreakable.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm sure sure? Gosh, who was it that? Oh
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  Speaker 2: it was Lane Johnson for the Eagles tackle Hill that
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  Speaker 2: he's like Hey, he's got a Liz Frank injury, and
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  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, but he's not considered out for the year.
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  Speaker 2: Just shit, I'm like, hold up. Like anybody that I've
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  Speaker 2: ever known has got Liz Frank and I've gone through
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  Speaker 2: that as well. Like, it's not a quick and easy
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  Speaker 2: process because they're different variations of Liz Frank.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there are. There are.
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  Speaker 4: So if you have a mild more of a sprain,
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  Speaker 4: so if you just sprain the joint, it can heal.
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  Speaker 4: But sometimes if you have a tear or a fracture
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  Speaker 4: associated with that joint, which is kind of a midfoot sprain.
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  Speaker 4: You know, anytime we hear midfoot sprain, we're a little
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  Speaker 4: bit nervous.
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  Speaker 3: That's the first.
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  Speaker 4: It's not always a Liz Frank, but that's the one
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  Speaker 4: you worry about because that's one that's going to be
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  Speaker 4: more commonly unstable or at the very least, they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be booted.
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  Speaker 3: Probably out for at least several weeks.
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  Speaker 4: But if it is more on that mild a variety,
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  Speaker 4: it might be someone who can boot up, and if
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  Speaker 4: they respond pretty quickly, they may they may get back
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more rapidly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never usually it's like you list Frank, Like Buddy,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and sit down, list Frank. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: it's like a person.
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  Speaker 4: It's a surgeon who first diagnosed I think if I'm not
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  Speaker 4: mistaken as French and during the Napoleon Award, so somebody
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  Speaker 4: want to fact check me, but uh, I believe it
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  Speaker 4: was actually what it was.
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  Speaker 3: So I think I think that was what it was.
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  Speaker 4: To go back and double check me, but I know
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  Speaker 4: it was named after the guy first.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's not fun, so I was right. It
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  Speaker 2: was the name of somebody I don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think Doc's just trying to back you up here. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: there you go. He goes back to Napoleon, but he
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  Speaker 2: always sounds smart.
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  Speaker 3: If you say Napoleonic, I mean it does.
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  Speaker 2: It does, actually go, I'm pretty smart. There only a
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  Speaker 2: couple of games left. Hard to believe, but I know
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  Speaker 2: you got some guess some high school playoff work you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be doing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be busy too. It's a busy couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's crazy. We're almost there and hopefully not
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  Speaker 4: too busy. I hope not too busy. Yeah, hopefully not,
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  Speaker 4: you know, hopefully We'll just be a good spectator. I'm
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  Speaker 4: always happier that way, right, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Doc, we appreciate no Doctor Steven After it's good
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  Speaker 2: enough to join us every single week here on the show.
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  Speaker 5: doctors right? And technically I was right. Basically know you were.
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  Speaker 5: I thought you were just being yourself. I'm always myself,
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  Speaker 5: That's why I say dumb things sometimes. That's why I
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  Speaker 2: News sometimes because I don't fact check him. Oh the
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  Speaker 5: Mm hmm, I've done it multiple times. Drew Brees is
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: just the most recent one. I don't remember.
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  Speaker 2: Well, chat GBT told me much wrong information sometimes you
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  Speaker 2: do trust that a lot. Sorry, I'm not supposed to
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  Speaker 2: mention chat GBT. Why I don't know who said you're
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  Speaker 2: not supposed to mention it. I don't know. Someone tell
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  Speaker 2: me that make all your ideas seem like they were yours.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Oh no, anybody knows you knows that you lean on it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hard on it. Coming up in about ten
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: minutes from now. Very excited about this, the return of
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: coach Kim Mulkey on O TV. Set that up yesterday.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Go to get back to our weeklies with coach Mulky
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  Speaker 2: every Wednesday. It's a plan. You know, there might be
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: some weeks where it has to be a Tuesday or Thursday,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: but every Wednesday we are going to have coach Mulky.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: They are five to zero on this season. They've scored
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: one hundred points in every single game that they've played.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Good this year. It's pretty decent, pretty dee digis. They
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: beat two Lane on the road one oh one to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: seventy one the other night. They've got a couple of
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: games before they've got a big non conference matchup against
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the Duke Blue Devils. So it's gonna be a lot
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: of fun to continue to watch this team certainly look
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like one of the best teams, not only in the SEC,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: in the country. They sit at number five in the country. Also,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: the men's team got a dub last night, so keep
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: their record perfect as well. You know, after that's what
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: that means after, you know, after a disappointing football season,
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: we know that the women's team's going to be great.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: We know they're going to make a deep, deep, NCAA
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: tournament run. It would be so refreshing to see the
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: men's team going a little bit of a run here.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: And look, I'm realistic. I'm not saying they gonna go
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: out and win a championship, but man, if they could
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: just fit finished like right in the middle of the
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Southeastern Conference and maybe, just maybe, so.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you questions on this me surprisingly enough,
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: not a basketball guy, I will be by Christmas, we'll
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: be locked in. But for the LSU men's basketball team, Like,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: what is a I don't even want to know what
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: like a realistic ceiling. I want to know what a
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: ceiling is, an absolute ceiling, like a pipe dream ceiling.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: And then what's a realistic, really good season for them?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Hmmm? I mean, I think that the ceiling would probably
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: like you can't like as much as we'd want to be, like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Homer Purple and gold glasses, pumping sunshine, the
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: whole deal. I mean, you had a conference that everyone
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: made the NCAA tournament but two teams, and you were
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: one of the two teams. So to say that the
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: ceiling would be higher than finishing in the middle of
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the SEC, I think would be would be crazy.
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: I think if you got to a five hundred conference record,
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: that would be excellent.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I think so, I think that's your goal. Team of
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: sixteen teams, fourteen of sixteen made the nc DOUBLEA tournament.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: You in South Carolina just learned it's only ones that
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: did not make it. So so for the games you
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: have coming up, I think you have Omaha Nebraska, you
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: have Drake I believe, then you got on the road
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: against Boston College, and then you've got a test against
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: number fifteen Texas Tech. So that will kind of give
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you an idea as you head into conference. I'm trying
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: to think. I know it's a challenge game, but I'm
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: trying to think where. I think it's in Fort Worth.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, the Texas UH Tech game, so
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: we'll find out about them when they played Texas Tech.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Do you like to go to the games? Oh? Yeah, Hey,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: kids love to go to the L s U men's
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: and women's basketball games. They like that it's inside. They
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: like the concessions. Wisconsant entertainment too.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: I think last week I said I didn't watch a
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: dribble last last year till the tournament.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Uh. I actually lied on that. I forgot.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: We actually took the fam to a game, all five
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: of us last year. I think we have to watch
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: an Auburn.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And it is. It's constant entertainment.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: There's always something happening, always something falling from the sky,
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: always somebody doing something on the court, some sort of
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: competition or dance.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: It's exciting. That's all I got on the basketball takes
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: right the second you got me, you worked the game
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: last night, didn't you? Sorry?
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: I did not work the game. I worked the women's
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: game Monday night. I followed it well, like alcorn State
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: came out lazing hot from three.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: They cooled it down. But the thing I like about
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: this game.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Everyone's going to complain, Oh, you gave up eighty one
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: points to alcorn State. I get that, but You found
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: a different way to win a basketball game, which I
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: always think makes you a better team. So far this year,
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: you've had DJ Thomas dish it out to the shooters
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: and they've done a really good job from three. You
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: shot twenty eight percent from three last night. That's terrible.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: What did you do?
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: You were dominant in the paint fifty eight to twenty
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: eight point differential in the paint. Mikenwoko is the best
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: player on this basketball team. Twenty nine points, nine rebounds.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: Markel Sutton still hit his shots. I mean DJ Thomas
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: still had sixteen and six when the rest of the
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: guys had an offshooting night. You found a different way
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: to win this game, and I appreciate that because you're
• 22:57
  Speaker 6: not always going to just stand there and knock down three.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Sometimes the shots aren't gonna fall for you. You found
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: a way to win. However, you play like that in
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: sec play, you're gonna get beat, so fix it. But
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: nice job to find a different way to win.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: All right. So watching this team, and you and I
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: have talked about this for the last couple of years, Tite,
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, you've got some good stuff in the
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: non con and even last year, like you had some
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: wins against some power for teams, right, some teams that
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you felt really good about, and then it just did
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: not happen obviously in conference play, Like when you watched
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: this team compared to when you watched last year's team
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: so far to this point, do you think it is
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: a better made up roster and team so far?
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because you go back to look at Mat McMahon's
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: time at Murray State, the times he was the most successful,
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: I get it. John Morant take him out of it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: When he had a dominant, pure point guard, his teams
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: were good. I think you have that. I think DJ
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: Thomas is a pure point guard. I don't really think
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: he's had that this year. Like Cam Carter was a
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: great guard last year, he wasn't a one.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Thomas does a good job of facilitating.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: So far, you've been a good shooting team, but you
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: have a dominant guy down low as well. If you
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: have a good point guard and you have a guy
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: download that can dominate in the paint, I think you
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: could win because you're shooters. Max McKinnon's done a great job,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: Markel Sutton's been really good, Sean King's been good. Ron
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Zippers barely played because he's been hurt. He's a guy
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: that can shoot from the outside. You have shooters, you
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: have a dominant guard, and you have a really good
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: post player. You can compete against anybody you go against.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're going we're gonna see like we are
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: certainly going to see. I do agree with you. It
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: does feel like it's a little bit better. The roster
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: feels better. It feels like it's got some pieces that
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: you can put together and trying to make that run
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: in conference play because in non con last year, I
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: think I know I got fooled a little bit there.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: We'll see if they can put it together. A team
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: that we know has it together and we know is
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: going to make the NCAA tournament and going to make
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: a run, the LSU women's basketball team, and we catch
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: up with their head coach, Kim Mulkey when we come
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in OTV here live from the
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  Speaker 2: Raise of Canes Studio. Very very excited for this next conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last couple of years, we've been lucky enough
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  Speaker 2: to have coach Kim Mulkey join us every single week
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  Speaker 2: during the basketball season. Excited to get this conversation. Go
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  Speaker 2: and coach, we appreciate your time so much. Thanks for
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  Speaker 2: hopping on with us. Thanks for joining us.
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: Good morning.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: Can you guys hear me? I'm out walking and then
• 27:00
  Speaker 7: have an echo? Can you hear me?
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: Okay?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Uh, hey, coach, we'll do this. We'll call hey, call
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: us on the number that we called you on, and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I think the echo will go away. So you got
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to call me back, No, Coach, I think if you
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: call us, I think the echo goes away. So whatever
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: number we called you from, I think if you call
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: us back, I think the echo goes away. All right,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I'll call you right back, right, coach. Uh. I don't
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: know why. I don't know why all these fancy buttons
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and cameras and different things because I've been a guest
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: on you know, shows on this station before, or call
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: it in when I've been out of town. Sometimes you
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: just get the echo. Or you just told a legend
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: of Hall of Famer to call you back. Please. You
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: didn't say please, I did that. I just did dude,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: doo doude doo doo doo doo. That's all right. This
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: would be the first time I've ever talked with her. Yeah,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I told her you were slippy. Don't worry. Oh, yeah,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: for sure yesterday when I was getting everything set up.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: It's obvious. Yeah, no question about it. Coach Mulky, we
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: got you.
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: You've got me.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: There we go. It's a little bit better, so we'll
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: see how it goes. How are you how You've been
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: off to a great start so far in the season.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: We miss having you on the show. We kicked t
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Bob out. He's now in Chicago freezing in the snow.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: But we got Matt Flynn here with us, so we're
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: glad to have you back on.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Can you hear me?
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Guys? Oh, we got you? Do you have us?
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: I think I heard you.
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: I'm not coming across clearly apologized. Yeah, Matt, welcome to
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: the show man. I know y'all been doing this during
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: football season, but I watched you fling the ball a
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: little bit in your day as well.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: That's right, coach. It's an honor to talk to you.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: You are an absolute legend, and like, look, I've known
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: and followed your career for a long time. I grew
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: up in Texas. My whole family was a Baylor fan
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: of a big coach, Ken Moulkey fans. I've been a
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: long time, so it's a pleasure, in an honor to
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: talk to you.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: Well, Well, tell me if I'm right or wrong. Why
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: do I have Tyler Texas in my brain when it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: Comes to you.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: You nailed it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Tyler Texas. My dad, my whole family went there. My
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: dad played quarterback there in the sixties. Oh yeah, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: don't know how you know that, but that's amazing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: I keep up with sports, not all sports, the main
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: three that those of us from the South played basketball, baseball,
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: and football. So an odd thing or two about athletes.
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: Hester. You know, he thinks he's from South Louisiana and
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: that's four. Grew up in North Louisiana.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Call that sheep East Texas. Hey, I'd rather that than
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: southern Arkansas. But you're right through one eight through one
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: great no question about a coach, So and your and.
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: Y'all's boy, the old center, the old lineman.
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: I bet he's freezing his rear end off about now
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: in the big Chicago. You know the thing about Chicago,
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  Speaker 7: which is a great sports town that way, but the
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  Speaker 7: thing about Chicago, when you're ready to go fishing, all
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  Speaker 7: you can do.
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  Speaker 8: Is ice fish. You know, he's down here. We can
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  Speaker 8: bass dish, but he's.
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  Speaker 7: Got to go chop a hole in the water and
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  Speaker 7: figure out how to do all that stuff.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, coach, you know, like that first true like winter morning,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: because you know he's lived in Atlanta, he's lived in
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: South Louisiana his whole life. And you know, Matt played
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: in Green Bay, I played in Denver. You've obviously, you know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: been across the country watching different things coaching, so you've
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: experienced it. You know that hit him like a ton
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: of bricks that first morning he woke up and it
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: was like real snow, not just some ice here in
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: South Louisiana.
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: I bet he had to go spend some money and
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: buy his whole family.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Jacket real jackets too.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: You got it.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: Well, when you guys talk to him, tell.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Him hello, absolutely, absolutely will coach. And so again, so
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: excited to have you back on the show. And obviously,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: like every year, it's going to be a new team.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have new players. Now you've got some returning players,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: some very good returning players, but you know, with today's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: college basketball, you're gonna have some new on every ross.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And so every year though, I always give you so
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: much credit because it feels like whichever team you're coaching,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: they kind of take that personality of their head coach, right,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: and we know you coach tough and confident and discipline.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: How do you go about building that every single year
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: when you get new faces kind of Okay, here's what
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: it is, here's how we're going to go about our business.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: And how do you kind of lay that out for
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the new players that you have.
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: Well, I think it starts in recruiting. It starts.
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: With you sitting down with those young athletes that you're
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: recruiting into your program. Most of the time, they know
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: the style of play, they know my personality. They don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: know me know me because they have all the social
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: media lives they have to you know, Wade through and
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: they have all those things, but I think they enjoy
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: what we tell them.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: You're going to be you.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: I want personalities on that floor. It's a game of entertainment.
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: But once you you just kind of wade through that,
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: there's two things. If you will defend and you will rebound.
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: We're going to have success. Right now, we're scoring a
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: lot of points.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: Guys, listen, I used all this non conference as basically preseason,
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: as you guys would say training camp in football.
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: I don't have our kids come in the summer.
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: I don't require them to show up and we go
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: and we grind in the summer.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: I like my summers off.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: They like to go play different USA Basketball teams and
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: go on vacations. So I look at these months as
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: I'm still evaluating it. I'm still trying to figure out
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: who needs.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: To play with who.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: So as we play these teams and we're scoring a
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: lot of points, I'm not looking at that. I'm actually
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: looking at we're pretty sorry.
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: The second half at.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: Two Lanes, we allowed straight line drive. We did all
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: those things poorly, and I've got to make them better rebounding.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: We got out rebounded, and we won by thirty that's
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: not cool. So those are the things that they've got
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: to do if they want to play for me, and
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: we'll get better. Did I think this team when I
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: signed those kids and they returning players came back, did
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: I think this is what I would?
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: Yet? Not necessarily early.
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: I had no idea that we'd be able to shoot
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: the three ball like we do well, let it fly,
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: and so that's why we're scoring a.
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: Lot of points.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, coach, I think I think scored triple digits
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: and all of the games this year, So I think
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: I was. I was looking at those numbers. I'm like, man,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: you have to be some sort of Hall of fame coach.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: You try to find motivation of that because like in
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: the football, you go watch film, you learn from mistakes, right,
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: you learn, And you just pointed out a couple of mistakes,
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: a couple of sloppiness that you saw from the team.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: But when you're scoring at that clip, it's probably you know,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: there's a mentality involved when you're talking to two young
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: women at the age they are when you when you win,
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: and when you win by a lot and you're scoring
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: like you are, you have to have a coach that
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: can really kind of humble them and take them back down.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: So is it difficult finding the coachable moments in.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Games like that?
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: The difficult part is to keep them focused. The difficult
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: part is to keep them from looking at that scoreboard
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: and get sloppy. So what you do in the course
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: of the game and a timeout. I may look at
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: one individual player and say, kids scored on you twice. Now,
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: don't let her score again the rest of the half
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: or the rest of the game.
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: Just give them little goals during the course of that game.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: I like this team. When a coach can say I
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: like my team.
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: And win and go to work every day looking at them, Man,
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: that makes for just a great locker room. And I
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: really do This team is a joy to coach. I
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: don't have to deal with outside drama away from the court,
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: which every coach in America has to deal with every year.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: And they pull for each other. I mean they pull
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: for each other. Look, got five or six kids.
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: Averaging in double figures and.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: They're happy for each other.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and coaching That was actually going to be my
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: next question because you have so many players that are
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: scoring the basketball. And last year we talked a lot
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: about rotation and how many players you were going to
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: keep in your rotation. So when you're playing these games
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and you're having a lot of success, like, is it
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: kind of hard? Like what are those conversations like maybe
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: with your assistance, because as you get closer and closer
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: to league play, I know you are having those conversations.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: So like when you're trying to figure out maybe how
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: many players are going to be a part of a
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: true rotation, like how often are y'all having those conversations?
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: Well, I'll give you an example. In the film room yesterday.
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: It's all we did win the film room and we
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: watched two lane.
• 35:36
  Speaker 7: We didn't even prepare for off corn. I'm not worrying
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: about off corn. I'm worrying about LSU, right. And then
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: we went on the floor and we ran thirteen down
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: and back under twelve seconds because we not thirteen twelve
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: Excuse me, because we missed twelve free throws. Yeah, and
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: then we did a little free throw competition for a
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: little while. As I said with them in that locker
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: room and film room, I reminded them, I'm not I
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: don't have a set starting five. You may see a
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: different group out there every game because I'm I'm so
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: blessed that I have that.
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: Much talent, and you better produce.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: While you're out there or somebody else is going to
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: get an opportunity. And that's not a threat. And I
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: know players don't like looking over their shoulder, but when
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: it's this new into the season and you've got that
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: kind of competition on the floor every day and practice,
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: hey next man up.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, coach.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: So I wanted to give you kind of the chance
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: here you know, this show in the morning. I mean
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: it's middle of football season. We've been so hot and
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: heavy with football and talking coaches and talking talking everything crazy.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: We we are a couple of things going on in
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: going on in the football program.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: I know it's wild, but it's a it's it's the
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: first time we've had you as the privilege having you
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: on the show since the season started for you all.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: So it's a new year, new look, new faces. I
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: wanted to give you a chance, like to introduce the listeners,
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: like kind of during this time of the time of
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: the day, like to the team, the new you have
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: Malaysia full Wiley k Cobol sixty five in the post,
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: like you got some new players, you got some returning
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: players you kind of introduced like this new team twenty
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: twenty six.
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: Well, obviously we can score the ball. And I would
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: tell people who will watch from Afar even if you
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: don't come to the games, well, shame on you if
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: you don't come to the game, because you're going to
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: miss out on seeing some tremendous female athletes that just
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: know how to play at an elite level. You're gonna
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: see happiness. You're going to see kids who have smiles
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: on their faces.
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: They enjoy playing.
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: I mean, there are a lot of athletes that play
• 37:45
  Speaker 7: these sports because they're just good at it and that's
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: all they've ever known, and that's all they've ever done.
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: It's like they enjoy going out.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: There and getting a steal or making a big bucket.
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: And I think that I had no idea that we
• 38:01
  Speaker 7: would be this cohesive, but it's sure is fun, especially
• 38:05
  Speaker 7: when you get to the latter part of your career
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: as a coach. What runs coaches out nowadays? Look at Saban,
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: he got out then ales tired of that. The coaches
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: will get out because the kids, how many times have
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: you heard it, They're just different. Now I get to
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: stay in it because I've been able through the generations
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: of kids I've coached adapt. You don't have to change
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: who you are as a coach, but you have to
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: adapt in ways you motivate young people, and they make
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: me adapt because.
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: It is fun to go to practice.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Coaching Matt, you know, kind of joke there, but we
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: all know there has been a lot going on in
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: the athletic department, certainly, like for you, like when you're
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: like you're starting your season and so there's so much
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: going on. There's a lot of change. You get a
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: new president, you get a new ad, you're looking for
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: a new football coach. Like, is that something that you
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: even right now, you know, can even worry about because
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you're so like ingreat like in the season and trying
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: to get ready for your team's run right now.
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: Pester, let me tell you this story, and this is
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: just put it kind of in perspective from me, my son,
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: y'all know. Kramer, Yeah, he said, Mom, have you ever
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: just stepped back to realize the amount of turmoil that
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: you have had to clean up without really realizing it?
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, what are you talking about? So he
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: took me back to my days at Baylor. He said,
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: do you remember you won your first championship in two
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: thousand and five and your theme was be the shining Light.
• 39:40
  Speaker 7: The previous year you had the murder in men's basketball,
• 39:45
  Speaker 7: and you had all the cameras there and all the
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: national trucks there every day. And he said, you just
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: want about your business, and you helped to erase some
• 39:54
  Speaker 7: of that by just being a positive by winning it.
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: He goes, let's go to the art briwt again. At Baylor,
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: you then.
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: Want a national championship.
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: To help erase some of that and put Baylor back
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: into a positive light. He goes, it wouldn't surprise me
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: if you did it this year at LSU. And I
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: just laughed and I said, you know, buddy, I just work.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: And he says, but the timing of things that you
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: have helped indirectly without realizing it, because you know how
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: to compartmentalize mom and focus on your team. And so
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: I've been thinking about that ever since he brought it up.
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: This is not new to me. This is something that
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: I have dealt with at Baylor numerous times. I hate
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: it because Scott hired me. I don't still to this day,
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: understand all the political stuff going on behind the scenes
• 40:48
  Speaker 7: because I don't have a political bone in my body.
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: I love everybody, I love all cultures, I love both parties.
• 40:56
  Speaker 7: But I just focused on my job, and my job
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: is to put LSU in a good light in the
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: win basketball games and championships.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: That's a great perspective coach, and like, and I think,
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: and it's great to like kind of look back on
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: that and Cramer for pointing that out, because I think
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: you get to that point because you're always yourself and
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: genuine and focused on the people around you and making
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: them better. And that's why you're a legend coach. So well,
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: appreciate that answer. We appreciate you.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: And uh, that's just that's fantastic perspective.
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: Well, you guys, you guys make my morning.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: I'm out walking doing my usual walk. Took my grape
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: juice this morning and gonna just walk the neighborhood and
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: think about what we need to do and practice today
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: to get better and bring you kids.
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: Matt, you married with children. I know, hester is that's right.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: I got three happily happily Mary with three kids ten
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: eighty five, doing the whole thing.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: Love it, bring them to a ball game, we love
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: to see games. Hey, Valentine's Day is the best time
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: to come. You better get a ticket. Now, that's when
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: we play South Carolina.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, that is that is very true, coach.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: You know we're gonna bring our entire crew, uh to
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: most games. They love coming. I mean, basketball games are
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: their favorite thing to do, you know at LSU. So
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: we'll be there. We'll be in the number, I mean,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: my family, my kids. We take up half the stadium,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: half the arena just by bringing the hester kids. So
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: we look forward to it, Coach, just like we look
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: forward to talking to you every single week here during
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: the basketball season. Can't thank you enough.
• 42:28
  Speaker 7: Hey, guys, you're welcome and love on those kids because
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: they grow up fast.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, they sure do. They already have there she is,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Coach Kim Mulky good enough to join us. Going to
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: get that started every single Wednesday here during the basketball season,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: something we've done for a couple of years and always
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: look forward to. All right, we will take a break
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: more OTB when we come back here live from the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Raise of King Studio.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Off the bench. I can't.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just nagging of it.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the Airwaves gets off the
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn's so.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: We don't mind old watching.
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: Because if this.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Cross real close to my nerves of it, all right,
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: welcome back again, O. Gv here Man fired out to
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: have Coach Milky. She's the best every single week.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: I used to love, like obviously last year, the last
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: couple of years she's been so I used to love
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: that segment of y'all talking to her because she's awesome.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: She has like such great perspective on everything, and she'll
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: answer any question, like any question genuinely and like it's like, yeah,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: that's so, it's amazing.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I do love that she will, Like you ask her,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: she's gonna answer. I say, well, I'd rather not there, No,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: rather not gonna tiptoe through the tulips on it. So fantastic.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to get the family out there, go check
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: them out. They've got a couple of really cool games
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: coming up as well, not just you know inside of
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: the p MAC. I mean they've got like a game
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: against Louisiana Tech that's gonna be in the Smoothie King
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Center in New Orleans on December the thirteenth. Obviously, Coach
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Molkey played for the Lady Texters and so that program
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: means a lot to her. So it's gonna be very
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: cool to go. You know, check that out there at
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the Smoothie King Center. She mentioned Hey in February Valentine's Day,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: She's like, don't wait South Carolina game, They're coming to town.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: So hey, good matchups.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: We're also all thinking it. Coach, you ever thought about
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: dabbling and coaching football? Come on, we gotta search happening
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Hey, look, get Jay Johnson kill Mulkey together, they can
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: be co head coaches. Go ahead, let's go. Let's go ahead,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: go ahead and do it. Man. I look forward to
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: that every single week. All right, So nine, we're gonna
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: have I have would you Rather? Wednesday? And I'm just
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: letting you know, I'm gonna have a theme to my
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: would you rather? Today? Today? We're gonna do that when
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: we come back, and I'm gonna have a theme to mine.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: So everybody needs to get there segment. Everybody needs to
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: get you know, it's like literally built in and it
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: like has the name of the day of the week
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: in the second. Our shows are just so jam packed
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: these days, so much exciting because we have two guests. Yeah,
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: that is a lot for you. That is very true.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: That is very true. Matthew is not he loves our guests,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: but he's not, you know, the one that wants like
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: we're getting we're getting more comfortable with him. We here, Yeah,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: we we're a team. You get in your pocket. I
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: guess you're such an individual. Well no, I'm saying like
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: I've had guests for a while. It's okay, all right,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: So coming up in hour number three, little would you
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: rather Wednesday right here on ot B Live from the
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• 46:48
  Speaker 2: fifty dollars or five hundred dollars plus if you take
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the Marucci Campus Tour, you get twenty percent off Hitters
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: House that same day. More info at Marucci sports dot com,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Slash Campus Dash Tour