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The Motorsport Brief - Meet The New Supercars Commentators! 🎙️ · Rusty's Garage

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  A listener production.
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  Welcome to the Motorsport Brief.
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  A gaggle, a flock of commentators.
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  Not sure what you call them, but I know we will not struggle for convo in this episode.
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  That is for sure.
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  Hi, everybody.
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  Rusty with you in the garage at Listener in Melbourne with another GP Week Motorsport Brief.
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  Now, supercars are a big part of the Albert Park offering, and this year there are some fresh voices who you'll know from the support categories.
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  They've been taking turns and are going to take turns in the main role, the play-by-play commentary role.
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  I have had the pleasure of knowing them for many years.
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  We've all had the chance to work together on occasion.
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  I just thought it would be really nice...
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  to help you get to know them a little bit better today.
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  They are proper, and I mean proper, car and bike fans, deeply committed to their craft and incredibly respectful of the history, the heritage in that baton that they get the chance to run with in 2026.
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  I'll start this as professionally as I can.
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  Chad Nalon, Matt Nolte, Richard Crail, welcome to the studio.
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  That is my poor attempt at a Q&A hosting.
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  Welcome.
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  How are you?
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  I didn't realise this was a brief.
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  I thought we were getting the whole thing.
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  I would have shown up on the wheel.
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  He messaged, Kralse messaged me in the lead up and goes, you know us, right?
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  We're not going to be able to cram this into half an hour.
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  This is a two hour spectacular, this one.
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  We're going to have to cram down in 30 minutes.
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  Welcome to part one.
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  You're so clear, part are coming on again.
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  Exactly, exactly.
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  Part two will come later this year.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  You have all taken different paths to get here, but you've been friends, I want to say, for basically the better part of 20 years or if not more, haven't you?
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  Bang on 20 years for Nolts and I.
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  We started working 2006 Western Sydney International Dragway.
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  Was it the Nationals or the Nitro Champs or the East Coast Nationals?
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  East Coast Nationals, I think it was, yeah.
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  We were on air 3 a.m. in the morning together for some reason.
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  We might need to dig that photo up of us, the special one that we've got on our socials.
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  This could be the thumbnail for this one.
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  Yeah.
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  It's the two of us, we've known each other for all of 12 hours and we're still on air together for the entire 12 hours.
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  And we've decided at this point to break into the corporate boxes and start stealing the beers at this point.
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  We've been on air too long.
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  It's too late.
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  And so I think there's a couple of VBs in the background.
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  In telling your respective stories, what you've done in your youth creeps in here.
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  And there's a lovely picture of you, Chad, Wanneroo as a youngster, kind of race-themed overalls, maybe hanging with Dick Johnson.
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  Tell us a bit about that.
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  Yeah, well, for me, that was it growing up, you know, going to Wanneroo, Claremont Speedway, Ravenswood Dragway.
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  They were the three.
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  And so getting to go with my mum and dad and my sister and whenever the big show was in town, it was Group A era.
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  So I was a big Dick Johnson fan, had the little, like...
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  race suit onesie sort of DJ onesie.
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  Have you kept that?
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  He'd probably fit my son.
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  He'd still fit in.
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  He's just sun wearing.
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  Yeah, it fits my kids.
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  Great.
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  That's awesome.
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  Unreal.
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  Awesome.
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  Totally fits my eldest, Chase, which is pretty sweet.
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  But yeah, I'll be getting a photo with Brockie and with DJ and all these guys.
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  And there's the cool photo of me meeting Peter Brock, and it's the Channel 7 TV compound behind him.
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  And it was like, little did I know that that was the pathway.
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  But I remember Crowsley put up a post saying he was...
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  as besotted by the commentators when he was growing up.
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  And that was the same for me too.
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  I was excited about meeting Mike Raymond as I would be about meeting Dick Johnson.
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  Tell me about that, about being besotted.
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  Yeah, well, it was.
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  And we, like Chad, I grew up going to Malala and the seminal moment of growing up in Adelaide and the Barossa especially, which is quite close to Malala, where the touring cars were until 1998, the Adelaide 500 started.
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  The seminal memory of my youth is being there in Peter Brock's final round in 97.
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  And there were somehow...
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  He was there too.
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  We only learned this afterwards that Nolte and I were there opposite each other on the racetrack.
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  Crazy.
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  Because I was at the start finish line.
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  I think you were directly over the other side, weren't you?
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  Yeah.
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  Running into the final complex.
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  So the world's colliding there.
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  So that was it.
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  But a fundamental childhood memory for me.
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  But then was Bathurst weekend was that special rite of passage that I think all motorsport families have is that you get up bright and early in the morning at 6.30.
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  Camp on the lounge.
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  Early for you guys over in the west.
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  camp on the lounge, you know, mum and the little brother couldn't bother you all day because Bathurst was on and you'd sit there with dad, watch the great race.
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  I'd remember sitting there with the VHS and recording it and pausing it during the ad breaks to take the ads out so you could try and fit it all on one four hour VHS and you get right into it.
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  But I was as fascinated in the broadcast and the talking heads of my youth while
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  on TV as I was with my hero, Peter Brock or Dickie Johnson or Larry Perkins.
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  So Mike Rayman's, Gary Wilkinson's, blah, blah, blah.
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  And you'll laugh, but even that early Network 10 era, which was so fundamental to growing supercars to where it is now, when Cochrane got involved and it became commercialised.
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  So Lee Diffie, yourself, the great Barry Sheen, they were all key elements to me getting in my brain, you know,
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  I really want to do that.
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  I want to tell the stories of our sport.
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  Love it.
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  Matt, for you, you've got vivid memories of Adelaide Grand Prix with your dad.
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  That made a huge impact on you, didn't it?
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  Yeah.
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  Well, see, I was actually not really into motorsport when I was a kid.
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  I was more cricket and footy, believe it or not.
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  I wouldn't check by the athletic.
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  Ditto.
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  A lot of time at first league.
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  Exactly, yeah.
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  Dad took me out to the Speedway when I was younger, and a car backfired, and it freaked me out.
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  And he said, all right, you're a bit too young to come to this.
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  And then he gave it another chance and said, I'll take you out to the Speedway.
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  It was a Sprint Car Masters at Speedway Park now shut, sadly.
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  And Dad used to deliver the beer for Foster's.
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  I got a phone call about 7.30 on a Friday night.
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  Oh, no, that's where it all started.
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  And we had to go and take beers into the Grand Prix track.
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  And all of a sudden I'm looking at an F1 car in pit lane.
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  I think it was Ferrari or McLaren, one of the first cars I saw there.
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  And there they were revving away.
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  And I was instantly in love.
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  And forgetting the other sport, I was going motor racing.
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  But I didn't think about the commentary.
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  The commentary wasn't really – I wanted to race or be involved in it.
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  I couldn't drive, couldn't afford to drive.
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  And you were for a time with Toll and the Anthony Trail, maybe Porsches to begin with, were you?
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  Yeah, it was the Porsches with 95.
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  I was the gopher.
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  with the toll team.
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  Excellent.
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  And it became pretty apparent after a couple of years that I couldn't do that either.
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  And someone said, you should talk about it.
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  You know what you're looking at.
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  And there was an empty commentary box at Phillip Island years ago on a state round, and all I had was the local radios, you remember, Crowley.
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  And I went up, there's a sound engineer there, and I said, oh, I'm here to do the commentary.
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  And the guy goes, oh, good.
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  Well, no one else has done anything today.
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  So here I am calling a state round, and I couldn't see turn one.
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  What were you talking there, like 944s or something like that?
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  Yeah, I think it was Island Magic, I think the event was back then.
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  And then away we went.
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  I started doing Porsches, and then Speedway a year later.
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  I talked a big game about, yeah, I can do Speedway, I can do Speedway.
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  And then I got there the first night, and there was 10,000 people in front of the commentary box.
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  And I'm like...
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  I can't do this.
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  And then, yeah, as time went on, I met Chad, I met Kralese.
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  In fact, Kralese and I got pitted against each other.
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  We were like rivals that didn't know each other in the early days.
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  There was a rivalry that neither of us had any idea about.
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  We were just going, oh, these two blokes from South Australia, young up and coming talent, oh, they're batting heads.
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  They're each taking each other's gigs and all that.
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  It's like, I had absolutely no idea of that.
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  You had absolutely no idea of that.
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  The first time we probably got together and hung out and had a beer, it got on like a house on fire.
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  The rest is history.
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  But, yeah, it was a rivalry that neither of us knew existed.
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  No.
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  I remember it was 2004.
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  It might have been a pro car round.
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  It was.
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  He was doing F3, and I was there still learning.
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  So I'd go out and call the state series rounds at Malala, and I said, do you want to help out with the pro car round?
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  I went, yeah.
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  Oh, hang on.
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  Kralsey's going to be there.
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  How's this going to go down?
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  And even now, my heart's beating.
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  And I remember he walked up in the commentary box, and he has this stance when he comes into a commentary box.
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  And when he walked in, I went,
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  How's this going to go?
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  I don't have a stance.
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  You do.
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  I'll show it to you one day.
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  If you have your sunnies on, the sunnies and your arms crossed like this, that can be very intimidating sometimes.
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  With the notebook?
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  Let me tell you, I've worked with him overseas.
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  He's not intimidating.
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  He's got a beautiful soul.
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  Fine after that.
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  And we sat down and just nailed it.
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  Like, we just – we barely looked at each other, but we'd talk, and I'd whack him on the arm, he'd keep talking, and from that moment we clicked and away we went.
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  So that was 20 years ago.
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  That's crazy.
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  I love some of the icebreaker moments here.
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  I can't remember whether it's our good buddy Dean Neal or Cam Vandendungan, but one of them told me that maybe –
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  A shared love of the Simpsons broke the ice between you two.
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  Is that right?
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  I think that was that day.
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  It was.
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  Sydney Dragway.
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  We're in the MySpace era.
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  We're going back.
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  Oh, man.
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  Yeah, pre-date Facebook, all right?
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  So we're at MySpace, and I think I had a couple of photos up from a recent trip to the States.
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  And you'd seen a few of them, and you instantly, I'd put a Simpsons caption or whatever on it.
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  And Noltz got it straight away.
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  And he's like, oh, hang on a minute.
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  Now.
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  Yeah, you realize your kindred spirits.
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  And I think that's why people like us clicked straight away because growing up, we'd go to primary school and you'd have mates who are into footy and cricket and soccer or whatever, but you didn't have mates who liked motor racing.
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  Yes.
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  And so when you found your brethren in life, people who are like you, it was like why would you be rivals with them when you could be mates with them, like the people that were missing through your childhood.
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  Matt and I in much later life now just bombard each other with flying high memes all the time.
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  Check your phone after this moment.
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  He's standing one of the left on the way up.
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  I'd love that.
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  Chad, can I stick with you?
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  You've done some great work, mate, on the two-wheel side too with MotoGP.
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  Your late dad would have been so proud of what you did at Sydney Motorsport Park.
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  He had some bikes too, didn't he?
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  Oh, yeah.
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  Did you?
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  Tell me about that.
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  Uh, maybe, maybe one was a standout.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, dad, dad was always a bike guy, which is why I became a bike guy.
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  And certainly that's dad was happy.
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  You take another racetrack and he could see that.
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  I like going to watching cars and bikes race, but he was happier in the car park, looking at things being still, how have they done that?
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  And how have they connected this thing up?
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  And all that's rare because of this.
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  And.
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  fascinating mind with that sort of stuff.
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  And so he started to build his own bikes a little bit as well.
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  And so he had a – still has, sadly he's not with us, but the bikes are – the GSX 1100, so Suzuki.
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  And he's for some reason done that up to be full Street Fighter mode for a guy that was like, you know, way too old today.
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  Have you ridden some of those?
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  I've ridden all the bikes, yeah.
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  Awesome.
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  Uh, my favorites, the Kawasaki, cause I bleed green, uh, Kawasaki Eddie Lawson replica, which was a proper barn find for like a thousand bucks.
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  And they'd painted it.
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  Obviously Kawasaki's a green.
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  This one was black.
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  And it was because the dealer had brought it in and be like, who wants a green motorcycle?
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  This is the eighties.
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  And so they painted it black and then sold it.
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  And it's just been living in some dude's shed under a tarp.
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  And dad's as he does found it.
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  And then I'll give you a thousand bucks for it.
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  The bloke like had no idea what he had, so to speak.
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  And so Dad's got it home and done a full Renault on it.
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  And the thing is resplendent bright green Eddie Lawson replica.
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  Love it.
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  And then he's got a BMW S1000XR, I think it is.
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  And that's the sort of adventure style 1,000cc bike.
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  But it's got the full 1,000cc superbike engine in it, so it hauls.
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  It's got a quick shift to everything else.
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  I hear in the Barossa from time to time, there are swear words in a garage around your first car, maybe an old Porsche that you work on from time to time that...
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  Tell me about this.
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  Well, I'm a very... Do you cuss?
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  Do you?
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  Yeah, and there genuinely are scars on my hands for working on cars.
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  As a commentator, I'm a pretty good commentator as far as a mechanic goes, Rusty.
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  But you kept your first car.
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  You've kept your first car.
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  Yeah, I did.
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  So my first car was a 1976 Holden Tirana.
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  Awesome.
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  And we found it, I think it was in the trading post.
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  And for people at home, that was a newspaper back in the day.
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  What was he asking for?
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  Well, I can take it and we beat him down.
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  So it was owned by this painter in Adelaide's northern suburbs, a real working-class area, and he was asking $400 for this 173 automatic Holden Tirana with a vinyl roof.
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  It was blue.
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  There's a couple of different shades of blue, but it was blue.
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  And he was asking $400 for this 173 automatic Holden Tirana
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  So for 350 bucks, we beat him down 50 bucks because that was all I had at the time at 15.
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  And we bought it.
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  And then we took it home and dad and with a little bit of assistance from myself.
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  And I remember my late grandfather coming in and waving the spray gun around it a little bit when we were painting it.
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  We restored it.
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  And that was my first car.
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  So when I got my P-plates...
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  That was the car I drove to high school in year 12.
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  It was the coolest car in the year 12 car park, which was awesome.
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  And I still have that.
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  I kept it to this day.
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  I will never sell it.
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  Is it red jade?
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  It is at the moment.
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  It's off the road.
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  It's due for a rebuild that I've been promising it for the last three or four years, but haven't quite got there yet.
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  But I think it will happen this year.
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  I love that thing.
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  It is the last possession I will part with when I have to sell everything off inevitably.
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  And then as you referenced, Rusty, my cantankerous old 944-1190.
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  which I bought for two grand from Mark Buick, who's a Porsche dealer and repairer in Adelaide.
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  And I've been involved with that brand for a long time.
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  So I felt like I needed to have one.
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  And I bought it because it's got pop-up headlights.
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  And it was two grand.
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  I'm not joking.
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  That's the reason I love the 944.
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  That's exactly why I wanted an MR2.
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  Put an engine in it.
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  There's a great story that when we do our second episode this year for Rusty Scratch, because we're going to need the follow-up.
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  I'll tell you about how...
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  How Matt Campbell, the Porsche factory racing car driver, bought the engine that's currently in my 944, but that might be a story for another day.
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  Another day.
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  I own a rubbish 944 that is almost always broken, but I love it for that.
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  Can I come to your respective careers and how you've come to this point?
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  Yours is a true hard yards story, Matt.
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  We just so happen to have outside the door a forklift.
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  Do you reckon you could run that for us?
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  Could you show me?
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  It's still current?
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  Yeah.
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  Technically, yeah.
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  We joke about midlife crisis, right?
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  But it was a significant change for you, wasn't it?
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  Yeah, I grew up in a transport family.
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  So all I lived and breathed, like Chad did, we were around trucks, we were around warehouses.
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  That's what we knew.
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  And I remember one of Dad's mates said to me one day, I was 13 or 14, he goes, you cannot be doing this.
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  You need to get out and do something with your life.
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  Yeah.
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  Anyway, 12 years later, I listened to him after working full time at a job.
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  When I say working, I probably attended full time, but I didn't get much done.
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  If you looked at my parting resignation form, I love the social aspect of working, but they said, you've got to go out and chase this dream.
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  And I would often work, you know, four full days at work a week, jump in a car, drive to Melbourne or drive anywhere, go racing and drive back Sunday night.
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  And I thought that's what everyone did.
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  because I was chasing something, but I thought, cool, go car racing.
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  It might come to say, it might not eventuate to anything, but it was going out and just picking up any race event you could just to learn because I was no good.
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  I had no formal training.
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  I didn't go to school properly to do that.
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  Um, and,
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  But I knew that driving forklifts, you could go back to one day.
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  It certainly wasn't something you want to do for your career.
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  But getting into this, this has exceeded any expectations I've ever had.
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  You've applied yourself, though.
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  So, look, you're really good around you are the custodian of the stats for Trans Am and things like that in this country.
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  The craft might be hands-on learned.
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  But for all of you, in many respects, the PA-style commentary serves you immensely well, doesn't it?
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  I think the trackside commentary that we did for years and years, I think we've done over 400 events, maybe more now since 2007.
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  We would work, me and Chad would work Wednesday nights every week at the Perth Motorplex.
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  And I tell anybody now, and he'll back me up, if you want to learn, go to the Motorplex over in Perth.
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  And so many good ones have gone through and come out of there because it was just the frequency of events.
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  Like I worked in Adelaide, I worked at both the Speedways.
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  spectacularly fell out with both of them in the end.
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  I thought, well, where do I go?
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  Do I go to Sydney or do I go to Perth?
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  He just – Chad had just moved to Sydney at that point.
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  I went to Perth on a big gamble.
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  I mean, there was a handshake agreement to go across.
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  And my first year, I did 120 nights of racing there.
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  Like, their calendar was on two A4 sheets of paper.
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  And it was grinding.
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  It was Wednesday nights.
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  It was Friday nights.
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  And there'd be –
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  three men and a dog at some of these events, but you just learned how to call.
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  I mean, we did a boxing day, yeah, 12 hours.
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  I mean, we had the test match on the commentary box while we were calling, but if you learn how to do drag racing over a 12 hour day, you can call anything.
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  Absolutely.
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  And you get good at filling delays and figuring out where you're going to steer the ship.
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  If there's no action happening on track, you get totally okay with the idea of not knowing where you're going.
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  I think there's an element that's missing currently with younger people looking to come up through the ranks to try and do what we're doing now.
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  I don't think that element's there as much now as well in getting out and actually putting in those hard yards.
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  And you might be sitting there.
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  My first live commentary was at a go-kart track, dirt karts in the Riverland of South Australia up at Morgan.
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  Morgan.
• 16:51
  Yeah, on the river.
• 16:52
  Wonderful little kart club.
• 16:53
  But on a smaller club show, there might be 50 competitors.
• 16:56
  There'd be 25 races over the night.
• 16:58
  But there was probably 15 people there.
• 17:00
  You knew it was busy when the local coppers would rock up and park up at turn one and spectate and get a hot dog and just enjoy for a couple of hours.
• 17:08
  But if you can, I always thought the highest praise you could get out of that was when some of the old people from the club, so that they'd been there for 15 years.
• 17:15
  would come and went, oh, I really enjoyed that.
• 17:18
  That was great.
• 17:18
  And that was, you left that going, oh, maybe I am actually contributing something to this.
• 17:22
  And even if it's only a hundred people listening to it, you're always working at your craft and working and entertaining at them.
• 17:30
  And like you guys said with the drag racing, if you can call and make interesting a really quiet day at a go-kart club or at a drag strip, calling supercars or Formula One or whatever it might be, it's really easy because there's so.
• 17:43
  much stuff going on and there's all this information.
• 17:45
  And when you grow up not having any of that, when you walk into this world and you get gifted with the stuff that we get, it's phenomenal.
• 17:52
  It's such a different change, but I think it's those core skills that we all developed in our own separate ways that have helped get us all to this point now.
• 18:01
  Yeah, and it also gives you an appreciation for the production equipment and the people, producers that you get to work with.
• 18:07
  We've all had a decent spell on Speed Week and great shows like that when they were great spots to learn.
• 18:12
  Yeah.
• 18:13
  Because sometimes you might show up at a go-kart track and it might be a microphone that's pretty much two tin cans and a piece of string that have been put together.
• 18:18
  To your point, I called once at Fairbairn Park in Canberra with DIFF.
• 18:22
  We had this old boombox.
• 18:25
  and two handheld mics.
• 18:27
  So we'd go, okay, we're going to take a quick break up next, the 250s, and you'd put the microphone down to Jimmy Barnes for 15 seconds and then figure out.
• 18:37
  But it made you so good at your craft.
• 18:39
  It did, totally.
• 18:40
  And if anything, rarer as it does, does go wrong with a microphone or anything.
• 18:45
  Your levels and your ears aren't what you want it to be.
• 18:47
  You get around it because you're so used to things not working.
• 18:50
  And what I think it also did is it makes you really aware of how important going and talking to people in the paddock is.
• 18:57
  Go up to them and go, hey, Rusty, what happened to your go-kart early on?
• 19:00
  I saw you had a drama.
• 19:01
  Steering wheel fell off.
• 19:02
  Steering wheel fell off.
• 19:04
  tripped over a tree or something like that.
• 19:06
  I think the little nuggets of information you pick up there, and I think if we all do one thing well as a group, is that we all make sure we're armed with as much of that kind of stuff that makes it interesting to people.
• 19:18
  And that, for me, comes out of wandering down through the paddock between races in a go-kart club 25 years ago.
• 19:24
  An old boss at Channel 10, Mike Ortsent, who's now gone to God, would always say, tell them what they can't see.
• 19:29
  Tell them that stuff.
• 19:30
  We need a quick commercial break here.
• 19:31
  Chad is best dressed in-house.
• 19:33
  He's got to go to a function.
• 19:35
  We're going to try and squeeze in a bit more.
• 19:36
  Stick around.
• 19:37
  This is the Motorsport Brief.
• 19:41
  G'day everybody, Rusty with you for the latest edition of The Garage.
• 19:44
  We have three guys ripping human beings that are commentating on the supercars this year.
• 19:50
  And I thought we'd take the chance for you to get to know them a little bit better.
• 19:54
  Joined by Richard Crowell, Matt Nolte and Chad Nailon.
• 19:57
  Chad, can I come back to you?
• 19:59
  You're proper trained.
• 20:01
  Whopper?
• 20:02
  Can you tell people a little bit about that?
• 20:03
  And there's been some good operators come out of that in the West.
• 20:06
  Absolutely.
• 20:07
  So WAPA stands for WA Academy of Performing Arts.
• 20:10
  It's run by the Edith Cowan University in Western Australia.
• 20:14
  And to be able to get into it, you have to, first of all, have a degree.
• 20:17
  So you have to have already gone to university.
• 20:19
  So it's a postgraduate course.
• 20:20
  And then after that, you have to apply to get in, sit and audition, and then they'll only take 20 people a year at best.
• 20:27
  So it was, I did it in 2011.
• 20:30
  So it's gone back a bit and I'd already been working on the Andrew Drag Racing stuff on 1HD.
• 20:34
  And I thought, we'll take a bit of a risk here.
• 20:35
  I'm
• 20:36
  give up what is already my dream job and I want to go tool up a little bit more.
• 20:40
  And the person running the course, people in WI know this name, a legend by the name of Peter Holland, who was our ABC newsreader.
• 20:47
  He was the guy who ran the course.
• 20:48
  And it's like, this guy's been on TV for 50 years hosting the news every night.
• 20:53
  And so it was just a factory for pumping out.
• 20:56
  really solid presenters.
• 20:58
  So first six months, we're just learning radio.
• 21:00
  And then the second six months was learning television.
• 21:02
  And we had our own radio and TV studios, like we're sitting in right now at our disposal.
• 21:06
  And it was just a fantastic way to learn.
• 21:08
  But a lot of it was learning how to use your voice better.
• 21:10
  And I still don't have a voice nearly half as good as the two guys across from me, which is frustrating.
• 21:14
  But we were trained by people who would do the voice training for opera students on the other side of the campus.
• 21:22
  And you'd get $5 tickets to a musical theatre show, ballet, whatever it was.
• 21:27
  You could just go and enjoy everything for a whole year.
• 21:29
  And I just ate it up.
• 21:30
  He did a stint on Telethon too one night.
• 21:32
  I ate a Telethon one night.
• 21:33
  Midnight till four or five.
• 21:34
  Whatever it was, yeah.
• 21:35
  And I'd been out, surprise, surprise, and got home.
• 21:38
  And he was still going at three o'clock.
• 21:39
  The guy's a machine, but that's how they learn.
• 21:41
  I hope he fleece you about a hundred bucks.
• 21:43
  That's not easy done with Matthew Nolte.
• 21:44
  That's not extra zero on that.
• 21:45
  What's that about?
• 21:46
  Someone rang up and they're like...
• 21:48
  I'm going to donate 20 bucks to the kids' hospital if I get to speak to Xavier from Home and Away.
• 21:52
  And so this producer comes over and goes, Just say you're Xavier from Home and Away.
• 21:57
  I can't do that.
• 21:58
  It's like, yeah, this is Xavier from Summer Bay.
• 22:04
  20 bucks, good on you, thanks.
• 22:07
  You brought up 1HD before.
• 22:08
  That was a great chapter at the TED Network when they forged into an all-sport channel.
• 22:14
  Awesome period.
• 22:15
  And there's a cool photo of you, like spiky hair, and our mate.
• 22:20
  You've got to impersonate him, our mate Dean.
• 22:22
  Hello, mate.
• 22:22
  Yes, he does a good job on the comms there, mate.
• 22:25
  He's very good.
• 22:25
  He was so good.
• 22:26
  He was awesome.
• 22:27
  Yeah.
• 22:27
  He should still be commentating now, and we ride him so much going, mate, get out there and just call a session, because one might have a deep voice, and he has knowledge.
• 22:36
  Dino has this voice that just you instantly know it's motor racing when he calls.
• 22:40
  But he works with you now in the West, producing the Speedway, producing AFL and all sorts, doesn't he?
• 22:45
  He's doing amazing.
• 22:46
  He's way up with Channel 7 AFL coverage now.
• 22:48
  Very, very talented guy.
• 22:50
  So that, I'm not sure which photo it might be, but I have the blue 1HD shirt on.
• 22:53
  Yep.
• 22:54
  And they gave me the shirt.
• 22:56
  And I think I told you this is the first time I ever met you.
• 22:59
  I took it off and I looked on the tag.
• 23:02
  Rusty.
• 23:02
  I got your shirt for the Grand Prix.
• 23:04
  I was like, this is the coolest thing ever.
• 23:06
  I've got a rusty shirt.
• 23:06
  Baswater City, what second prize?
• 23:10
  You are properly self-taught, if you will, and you expanded your skill set to include the PR and comms side, and you have been immersed in –
• 23:19
  the Porsche framework in this country for a long time now.
• 23:22
  How long?
• 23:23
  How long?
• 23:24
  Oh, 2008 when what was, well, what is now sprint challenge started and Carrera cup went away for a couple of years.
• 23:32
  Um, sprint challenge was started as a, um, um,
• 23:36
  as a sort of fill the void kind of category, more club level racing.
• 23:39
  And then when Carrera Cup came back in 2011, I was the guy already, um, and ended up being the caller for that.
• 23:45
  The PR and comm stuff is interesting because it's, it's quite a big chunk of what I do, but for a lot of the early stages, especially it was a means to an end to commentate.
• 23:55
  I've missed a chapter here.
• 23:56
  Cause did that start in Formula three?
• 23:57
  Formula three racing was, was where I, Formula three in Australia is hugely significant to me because it, it,
• 24:04
  Karl Rindler and all these people coming through.
• 24:06
  Yeah, and Bronte Rundler, in BRM at the time, took a chance on a young South Australian kid and said, oh, do you want to help us write some press releases?
• 24:12
  And then, long story short, went to Gold Coast Indy with him in 2004, which was my first real trip away to go racing.
• 24:18
  Lee Diffie heard you there.
• 24:19
  Did he?
• 24:20
  Yeah, and he was very complimentary.
• 24:21
  Yeah, well, that's pretty special.
• 24:24
  I didn't know that.
• 24:24
  Yeah, it's either that year or the year after.
• 24:26
  I can't remember.
• 24:26
  But he heard you and he was like, who is this guy?
• 24:28
  And he asked me about you.
• 24:30
  Yeah, right.
• 24:30
  It was very complimentary.
• 24:31
  And Formula 3, it would have been the year after because Formula 3, doing the stuff with BRM, got me into Formula 3.
• 24:36
  And then a week before their opening round, their PR guy disappeared and got a proper job.
• 24:41
  And so I got the PR gig, which was like 500 bucks a weekend.
• 24:46
  And that was about it.
• 24:47
  That was fine, by the way.
• 24:48
  That was a riches at that time.
• 24:50
  And I was calling it.
• 24:51
  And then by the end of that year, I started doing Speed Week.
• 24:53
  So that period was hugely responsible for me ending up doing TV.
• 24:58
  But the PR, the comms, the writing, the press releases, that paid the bills so I could go to the racetrack and commentate.
• 25:06
  Because people, it seemed, were more willing to go, oh, yeah, we'll pay you to write a press release or we'll pay you to...
• 25:10
  But one complimented the other, obviously.
• 25:12
  It did.
• 25:13
  I think it helped.
• 25:13
  But it was a means to an end for me to be able to actually commentate, which is what I wanted to do.
• 25:18
  The PR and writing stuff was just an aside.
• 25:21
  Awesome.
• 25:21
  Some of the iconic moments, I mean, I can't remember again whether it's Dino or Cam that reminded me...
• 25:27
  But you guys got to do Bathurst 2014 over the PA. Oh, yeah.
• 25:32
  I mean, what a memorable race.
• 25:34
  I just remember sitting in shell shock at the end of that one.
• 25:36
  And then you ringing me being like, are you coming to this press conference?
• 25:38
  Because I used to host the press conference.
• 25:40
  And I was like, oh, come on.
• 25:42
  I was just completely, I was just like zonked after eight hours of just flat out warfare that day.
• 25:47
  It's still the best race I've ever seen.
• 25:49
  And that was the first one you and I ever got to call together as well.
• 25:52
  And I don't think we'll ever get a better one.
• 25:53
  Like that was just like...
• 25:55
  absolutely crazy that day.
• 25:56
  That was my audition for Supercars that weekend.
• 25:59
  Oh, yeah.
• 25:59
  Really?
• 25:59
  Yeah.
• 26:00
  And I'd done the track commentary for seven years.
• 26:03
  So 2008, Mike Drew or Penny Gordon got me involved up in Hidden Valley.
• 26:07
  And after four or five years, I thought, this is not making an impact.
• 26:10
  It turned out that Supercars Media never heard any of the stuff I'd done because it was a separate broadcast.
• 26:17
  Anyway, I'd gone back into forklift driving.
• 26:18
  So there's a bit of a pattern here.
• 26:20
  Chad rings me one day and he goes, hey, I reckon there might be a chance at Bathurst this year.
• 26:24
  And I went, okay, we'll try it out, see what happens.
• 26:26
  And 10 minutes later, he rings me up and he goes, yeah, you're in.
• 26:28
  You've got to get yourself there.
• 26:29
  And I went, all right, we're doing this.
• 26:31
  So off I went and called a – I was there to call a Super 2 race that day.
• 26:36
  And we ended up calling that together and they threw me in for the top 10 shootout and for the race on Sunday.
• 26:42
  At the end of it, like him, I reckon I sat there for an hour just looking out the window going, what the hell just happened?
• 26:48
  And I was actually going to stop that day.
• 26:50
  I was actually going to say that's enough because I've been trying for years.
• 26:53
  I was never going to get anywhere.
• 26:54
  And I thought if you're going to stop, stop at the best race in the world.
• 26:57
  You'll never see nothing like this.
• 26:59
  And one of the guys from Supercars Media was packing up and he goes, I don't think you're going anywhere anytime soon.
• 27:04
  I said, why?
• 27:04
  He goes, oh, they're pretty happy with you.
• 27:06
  And by that night, they were throwing ideas around for 2015.
• 27:08
  So you had the Gold Coast.
• 27:10
  Yeah.
• 27:10
  Went to the Gold Coast, ended up doing Sydney Olympic Park.
• 27:12
  And then this guy persisted with me because I didn't want to move from Perth.
• 27:16
  I was in tears.
• 27:17
  In fact, he dragged me across the country.
• 27:19
  I come across on a plane in 2015.
• 27:21
  Literally had to give him a bedroom in my house.
• 27:22
  Yeah.
• 27:23
  And I still didn't want to go.
• 27:24
  Like I got there.
• 27:25
  I'm like, I never really settled.
• 27:26
  And, you know, it was a means to climb in the ladder.
• 27:29
  And, you know, it was just amazing.
• 27:32
  Yeah, that moment.
• 27:33
  So when we called together Darwin 2014, I don't even know that you knew it, but I hit record on the phone and put it on the table while we're calling the race together.
• 27:41
  Excellent.
• 27:41
  And then knowing that I was going to try and get him in the door.
• 27:44
  And then Scott Young, who was then head of the production for Supercars, I had a meeting with him about 2015.
• 27:49
  And I said, oh, I reckon we're a voice short for Bathurst.
• 27:51
  And he's sort of halfway walking out the door.
• 27:53
  And I go, what do you reckon of this bloke?
• 27:54
  Play.
• 27:55
  And oh, yeah, here we are at Darwin, Hidden Valley, blah, blah.
• 27:58
  He goes, yep, he's in.
• 27:58
  Yeah.
• 27:59
  That was it.
• 28:01
  I rang him, mate, you better get yourself to Bathurst.
• 28:02
  You got the train there, I think, from every day.
• 28:04
  Yeah, we had to do a drag race in Adelaide the weekend before, so I managed to get a flight to Adelaide and then got a flight to Sydney paid for to call 30 minutes of HQ Holden Racing for Speed Week.
• 28:13
  Speed Week, bless it.
• 28:14
  I jumped on the XPT on Friday, went up to Bathurst, walked from the train station of Bathurst to the track, and I went, not doing that again.
• 28:20
  Slept on the floor, we called the race, and then I remember...
• 28:23
  We left Monday morning and it had been 25, 26 all weekend and this almighty thunderstorm hit Monday morning.
• 28:30
  The time I got back to Perth that night, it was snowing in Bathurst.
• 28:34
  Amazing.
• 28:35
  And it was just an incredible weekend.
• 28:36
  The big screen chapter with Peely, with Rob Peel, was very special for you guys.
• 28:40
  I know that a lot of good stuff came out of that for you.
• 28:44
  Your individual work in support categories, super important to where you are today from Toyota 86 to Porsche that we've covered to Super Ute, Super 2 and more.
• 28:55
  That has been an element of your story that leads to where you are today.
• 28:59
  So important, that role that you've played and you've garnered the support of the constituents in the paddock around that stuff, haven't you?
• 29:04
  Yeah.
• 29:04
  Yeah, and a lot of that has been, for me, formed around junior motorsport.
• 29:09
  So I had a bit of an involvement with the Australian Car Championship.
• 29:12
  I try and keep that going today.
• 29:13
  Toyota 86 is Dunlop Series.
• 29:15
  So I've got to a point now where David Reynolds and Chas Mostad are the only two drivers on the supercars grid that I didn't commentate in some kind of junior category.
• 29:25
  That's awesome.
• 29:25
  And that's hugely helpful for when you need to walk up to Thomas Randall at the 12 hour.
• 29:30
  Woke's in tears because he's just, you know, he's had a faux pas and he's stuffed the thing in the fence.
• 29:34
  But I've known him since he was racing, I don't know, whatever, KF3 or whatever it was when he was a kid in karting.
• 29:40
  And you know, these guys for so long that you have their trust to better walk in in a really tough situation.
• 29:44
  And that has really served me well.
• 29:46
  So even that I'm calling supercars now, I want to try and keep the junior stuff up where I can because it's hugely beneficial.
• 29:52
  Can I, with time is going to beat us here, I want to just focus on some international highlights for all of you because that's another thing that I feel like you bring to the table here.
• 30:00
  Firstly, you're about to go and do another, we are not worthy, Channel 10 Formula One call this weekend.
• 30:08
  Nice of me to be here.
• 30:10
  Work with Mark Webber, with Damon Hill, among others, and you have made the Bathurst 12-hour with John Hindoff and all of the team there.
• 30:18
  You've made it your own.
• 30:20
  Yeah, the 12-hour is, if someone put a gun to my head and said, you can call one race a year, it would be the 12-hour.
• 30:27
  I love that race.
• 30:28
  It's hugely fundamental to me being where I am today.
• 30:32
  But in the same way as Chad said, building those relationships with the young guys and girls, and I've done the same and Nolts has done the same, what that race has enabled me to do as well is build relationships with some of the international people.
• 30:45
  stars and genuine friendships.
• 30:47
  So when you went to Le Mans, you knew some of them.
• 30:49
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 30:49
  I could walk in the paddock and see Murrow and go, oh, g'day, mate, how are you?
• 30:52
  Good to see you.
• 30:52
  All right, all right.
• 30:53
  So, yeah, in the same way as you building relationships with the Toyota kids as they're coming through, or Super 2, that event has been fundamental for me as well in forging some of those relationships.
• 31:05
  And the Grand Prix is still one of those things I can't believe I get to do.
• 31:07
  It's great that you do it.
• 31:08
  Still a dream.
• 31:09
  And you do it brilliantly.
• 31:10
  Robbie Gordon took a shine.
• 31:11
  Yeah.
• 31:12
  to you and he got you to do stadium trucks, not just in this country, but in the US as well, mate.
• 31:18
  Yeah, that was something I never saw coming.
• 31:20
  I didn't even know what a stadium super truck was in 2015 and Simon Fordham, who was our boss at the time, he goes, I'm going to get you to call this stadium super truck stuff because your speedway background will bring hype to it.
• 31:29
  And I went...
• 31:30
  YouTube.
• 31:30
  Oh, wow.
• 31:31
  These are cool.
• 31:32
  Yep, no worries.
• 31:33
  Anyway, called the event.
• 31:34
  It was still one of the most viewed crashes on YouTube history.
• 31:37
  Sheldon Creed's rollover, and Sheldon won a race last weekend too, which was awesome to see in NASCAR.
• 31:43
  Robbie come up to me at the end of the weekend and goes, I want to take you to the States.
• 31:45
  And I started laughing.
• 31:46
  I'm going, why would you want to take an Aussie to the States?
• 31:49
  He goes, because you're damn good.
• 31:50
  Nice.
• 31:51
  And Chad and I had done Puka Koei later that year.
• 31:55
  Never been on an A380 until I went to Puka Koei with him and I was still buzzing about that.
• 31:59
  Anyway, I get a phone call at four o'clock in the morning.
• 32:02
  They wanted me to go to LA and call the race that had been done in Las Vegas.
• 32:06
  Yeah.
• 32:07
  I just went over and did it.
• 32:08
  We had no agreement.
• 32:09
  It was just like, call it.
• 32:10
  We'll work it out afterwards.
• 32:11
  And then from 2016, Robbie with Jess, it'll be a handshake agreement at Adelaide.
• 32:16
  And I travelled 30 times over the next three or four years, back and forth to the US from Perth.
• 32:22
  The updates we'd get.
• 32:24
  were just amazing.
• 32:24
  He loves the story.
• 32:25
  He's a good storyteller, isn't he?
• 32:26
  I'm on a plane.
• 32:27
  I don't know where I am.
• 32:28
  I'm in Indy.
• 32:29
  I'm now back on a plane again.
• 32:30
  Rocks up at a track.
• 32:31
  Oh, I've just got back from the States again.
• 32:33
  Oh, it's crazy.
• 32:33
  And there were stories that can't be published that come out of it.
• 32:37
  But I think if you looked at the jumpy trucks and then if you knew Matt Nolte, there would be no one better to commentate that series than I made.
• 32:46
  He sort of became linked to it, he did have been linked to it, didn't he?
• 32:48
  Totally.
• 32:48
  Short of like Darrell Eastlake doing it.
• 32:50
  I can't imagine it.
• 32:51
  Exactly right.
• 32:51
  He could call that stuff better.
• 32:53
  Yeah.
• 32:53
  Yeah.
• 32:54
  So we come to this season, the sports mixing it up a little bit, taking almost a bit of a cricket approach, maybe what they do in NRL, different commentators and so on, which I think is ace, and you'll all get a turn at it.
• 33:04
  My overarching wish is that you all three hit it out of the park, but you can stay friends too.
• 33:08
  Yeah.
• 33:09
  You've got clearly from this conversation, we can tell the depth of your friendship.
• 33:12
  You're all immensely proud of each other getting this chance too.
• 33:16
  I think it's really special that the three of us get to do it at the same time because we genuinely are – well, I think we are – all mates.
• 33:23
  But I think the thing is – and you guys can disagree if you like – but if we got the phone call at the start of the year and Nath Prendergast said it TV or James Warburton rang Nolts and I and said, Chad's the guy, I think –
• 33:36
  I can't speak for you, Nolts, but I would have gone, good call, great decision.
• 33:40
  And I'd like to believe it would work the other way with the three of us.
• 33:43
  So we're genuinely all really good mates.
• 33:47
  And I think we're all just sit there and have a bit of a laugh that we've all been presented with this opportunity at the same time.
• 33:54
  And all these various pathways have come together to this point and the three of us end up doing it at the same time is really special.
• 34:02
  Yeah, and it's up to us to get the most out of the two blokes or one bloke next to us.
• 34:07
  You know, Garth is such a natural at it.
• 34:08
  And moving seats between Frosty and JC, we proved in the first event that we're willing to try something different.
• 34:14
  Three supercars races had three different commensure teams in three days.
• 34:17
  Yeah.
• 34:17
  Has that ever happened in the sport before?
• 34:19
  So we were...
• 34:20
  Willing to mix it up.
• 34:22
  We'll be doing that.
• 34:22
  We'll be hot seating that extra spot throughout the course of the year as well.
• 34:25
  And then that may even change again in the Enduros, depending on how Nathan and James and the rest of the guys want to make that decision.
• 34:31
  But I don't think however it changes will change the friendship.
• 34:34
  And you can't go 20 years working together and loving each other's company and then just be like, oh, now we're rivals.
• 34:40
  And the experimentation with the three callers, I mean, I love that IndyCar chapter with Diff and what have you.
• 34:47
  I mean, the three callers in NASCAR, it works, doesn't it?
• 34:50
  I think it works really well.
• 34:51
  I like it being conversational.
• 34:52
  I think when it works at its absolute best is when...
• 34:55
  Our role is just very much hop in and, oh, hype moment, that's cool.
• 34:59
  And then your two expert guys go at it, chatting away, discussing it, debating it, disagreeing over it, whatever.
• 35:05
  But it should be about them bouncing off each other.
• 35:07
  We can sit there for a lap and not say anything.
• 35:09
  And that's fine if those two are talking but also informing and educating and letting people know what's going on.
• 35:15
  They're the legends of the sport.
• 35:17
  Absolutely.
• 35:17
  King of storytelling, would you like a parting thought here before we wrap up today's episode?
• 35:21
  You can bring us all back down to earth.
• 35:23
  You can... What would you like to know?
• 35:25
  What's this rated?
• 35:26
  BG, M, A.
• 35:27
  This is Rosie's Garage After Dark Edition.
• 35:30
  There's a bar at Indianapolis.
• 35:31
  Right, yeah.
• 35:34
  No, I say exactly what these guys said.
• 35:36
  This is, as you know, Rusty, an industry that, you know, it's such a competitive little market, and it's really hard to stay friends or make friends in it because you're all ultimately going for the same thing.
• 35:48
  We go back 20 years.
• 35:49
  You and I go back 20 years.
• 35:50
  You and I, Rusty, go back over 10 years.
• 35:52
  We all know our lane, and we all just want to do a good job.
• 35:55
  There's no ego bashing here.
• 35:57
  It's just we all know we've got our own strengths, and we work to them.
• 36:01
  And Chad said, if we haven't had a blue in 20 years, I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon.
• 36:06
  It is the biggest opportunity that all three of us are going to get in this country.
• 36:10
  So it's a matter of just let's work together and make the product even better than what it is.
• 36:15
  I hope you all have a chance to stop, save at the moment, be proud of the chance that you get from my side.
• 36:22
  I don't mean it to sound wrong, but it...
• 36:24
  I'm proud for you guys.
• 36:25
  So I reckon that's a pleasure.
• 36:27
  Outside the door, Chad's people are saying we're out of time here.
• 36:30
  He's got to go.
• 36:31
  He's got to go to a function in the city.
• 36:33
  So that is it for this episode.
• 36:35
  I just want to wrap up by saying I know in the bottom of their hearts, these three are incredibly respectful of the opportunity here.
• 36:43
  the responsibility that comes with it.
• 36:44
  And I hope this enables you watching and listening just to get to know them a little bit better as they've been through your telly or your phone during the season.
• 36:52
  They are there genuinely through sheer hard work and on merit.
• 36:57
  And most importantly, as you would have heard in this conversation, because they genuinely love the sport.
• 37:02
  We'll catch you next time, everybody.
• 37:03
  Bye for now.