Latest / The Breakfast Club / Best Of Full Interview: Erykah Badu Speaks On Her Iconic Fashion Sense, Social Media's Affect On Art, New Music + More

Transcript

Best Of Full Interview: Erykah Badu Speaks On Her Iconic Fashion Sense, Social Media's Affect On Art, New Music + More · The Breakfast Club

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning, the Breakfast Club Morning.
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Everybody's the j n V. Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Jess's on maternity leave, so
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Laura Lroossa is filling in. And we got a special
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: guest in the building, the Icon Living. Yes, Miss Erica
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: dud welcome back.
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: Peace, Peace, peace, How you feeling exquisite?
• 0:22
  Speaker 3: There you go?
• 0:22
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 0:24
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if you know this. Last time
• 0:25
  Speaker 5: you were in here, the art wasn't up, but you
• 0:27
  Speaker 5: see the art now.
• 0:28
  Speaker 3: And look how you sent it though. You got Queen
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: Mother blessing the whole room.
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: I got to pull out the pussy in.
• 0:37
  Speaker 6: You got boys, you got the incense.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 0:41
  Speaker 6: I've been burning.
• 0:41
  Speaker 7: I've been burning an incense since you dropped them. I
• 0:48
  Speaker 7: saw y'all two together at the awards.
• 0:50
  Speaker 8: Yes, congratulations on that too. Congratulations on receiving the cf
• 0:55
  Speaker 8: D A Fashion Icon Award.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very very much.
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what that means, but I feel
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: like you deserve all the awards.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Congrat they say, I found out it's the Oscar of fashion,
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: so that that award means a lot to people. In
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: the fashion industry, and thank you, sir, and to us
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: as artists as well, you know, creators who are I
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: love it as well, trying to you know, evolve our
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: our culture, you know. So that means a lot to
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: be recognized.
• 1:28
  Speaker 8: It's always felt like you had an effortless style. Do
• 1:30
  Speaker 8: you really put a lot of thought in how you
• 1:32
  Speaker 8: how you drive?
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: Sometimes? Okay, you know, sometimes I do, and sometimes it's
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: just grace it happens.
• 1:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: You're not supposed to blow out. Instance, the old Googles
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: don't like that, but I'm not. But I'm not kidding, Okay,
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say it ain't on me.
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: We got so much of this sit the house. Yeah,
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: when you first put it out a couple of years ago.
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: After now, you said that during your speech that this
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: was an award that you wanted for a long time.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: Was true that long after since you know, I didn't
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: even know that you could get an award for that,
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: but just wanted to be recognized for the canvas that
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: I create. When I go out, man, it's really important
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: to me. It's my therapy. You know, I can't leave
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: without halving mind. Like I said in the speech shit together.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just something that came with my head.
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: You know, it's a nagging thing. You know, make sure
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: you shit it together. And sometimes when I don't try
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: really hard, and sometimes gracefully comes together. I guess maybe
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: because of my intention, the fashion gods gave me the
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: keys out here in these streets.
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: We get it from your mom and grandma de.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely colding, right. They used to call her Twiggy
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: in high school after the model because she was just
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: so original and she had bleached her hair white. She's
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: a really skinny kid with big eyes. It's really creative.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: And how difficult is it for you to have so
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: much of a fashion sense, right? Because you travel a lot.
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: How much luggage do you have to carry? How much
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: do you go shopping? I know that's what I'm saying.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: You carry a lot of freaking lug like her luggage
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: has her own bus.
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll explain that when you're your own stylist and
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: your own makeup person and your own hair person. And
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: then I do the band's wardrobe, and you know, they're
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: just instruments and all kinds of things. So I'll carry
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: a production so I like to see the vision all
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: the way through and have my hands in it. There's
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: a word for that, an artist who has their hands
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: in every aspect of the work of the vision. It's
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: called the all tool. I think a beut oh I
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: r our tour and that's just describe it as an
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: artist or a visionary who has an idea and has
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: to see it all the way through in each department
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: because they have the ability to do that.
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: So you write a song and you know what the
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: video gonna look like, You know what you're gonna well
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: you okay, Wow.
• 4:36
  Speaker 7: You talked last night about your best friend who accompanied
• 4:39
  Speaker 7: you to the awards and afraid of him introducing you
• 4:42
  Speaker 7: to a lot of the fashion houses and stuff like that,
• 4:44
  Speaker 7: where fashion house houses always like open and like rushing
• 4:47
  Speaker 7: to support you in all of your creative ideas or
• 4:50
  Speaker 7: did you have to Was there a fight, because a
• 4:51
  Speaker 7: lot of artists talk about it being a fight trying
• 4:53
  Speaker 7: to get into the couture houses.
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: You know it was.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: I was out since nineteen ninety seven, and social media
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: was really the opening to a lot of these relationships
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: because they could now directly get to the artists where
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: they probably didn't know how to get to the ones
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: that they wanted to feature before. But the first person
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: that reached out to me was Tom Ford. Tom Ford
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: wanted me to do a perfume at White Pachuli, which
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: was his Natural Innocence Flavors. This was two thousand and two. Yeah,
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: so that's tom Ford and Tom Ford's from Texas as well,
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: so we kind of formed a bond. And I guess
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: as I evolved my style other houses or artists because
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: it's really the creative director. Yes, it's the person. He
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: is the He is the house at the time because
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: his vision is trusted most. And they started, you know,
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: kind of paying attention to you know, the the guardliness
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: or the freedness or the hobo sheikness. It's been called
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: all kinds of things, but yeah, they called notice. And
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: next was Roberto Tichi and he was the creative director
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: of Jivnshi at the time, and that was my first
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: full campaign and he let me co style with him
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: and put things together. And I think it just after
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: that I was kind of, you know, I was on
• 6:32
  Speaker 2: the radar for certain things. Definitely the page to go
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: to if you want to know what's next, and.
• 6:39
  Speaker 6: How do you pick?
• 6:40
  Speaker 7: Like last night you were in Tom Brown, or the
• 6:42
  Speaker 7: other day at the CFDA A Wards, you were in
• 6:43
  Speaker 7: Tom Brown, how do you pick which designers in which
• 6:46
  Speaker 7: houses now you want to work with? Because I'm sure
• 6:47
  Speaker 7: they're all banging.
• 6:49
  Speaker 6: You can do anything you want now, right.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: And I picked Tom specifically for this event because he's
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: the chairman of the event, yes, and he's he's also
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: a very very good friend of mine and his art
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: is just so amazing. So I thought, since I was
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: being honored, I would also honor him by wearing one
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: of his pieces. And I chose one from Runway, uh
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: and a really beautiful architectural shape, really pretty. And I said,
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: but I need something huh, futuristic ancient to go on top,
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: you know. And I saw this AI. I think he
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: saw this post this morning. I'm not sure, but I
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: saw this AI rendering of this this head piece, and
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: I reached out to the person and I told him
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: this is really beautiful. I would love to challenge a
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: designer to bring this to life in the in the
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: five D world for D world, and he said okay.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: So I called a friend, Chris Habana, who does a
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: lot of crafting and amazing jeweler, and he said yes,
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: and he had three days and he pulled the team
• 8:03
  Speaker 2: together and they did some.
• 8:06
  Speaker 5: What do you call it, some renderings?
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did some put it in the machine. It's plastic.
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: You can make a gun with it, you can make
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: a house, right, Yeah. They did some three D printing
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: to try to Really it's amazing, it's amazing.
• 8:26
  Speaker 3: Do you remember where you were at when you got
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: the call for that you was getting the c FDA.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: I was at home, uh and my agency uh Forward
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: forwarded me the email. I was like, wow, okay, it's good. Good,
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: that's good stuff.
• 8:41
  Speaker 6: That's good.
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: Did you immediately know what you was going with? Did
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: you see that vision?
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not? Okay, absolutely not. This thing was three weeks away. Yeah,
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: I know I was gonna wear it tomorrow.
• 8:54
  Speaker 5: You've done capsules before with people and collaborated.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about just trying to talk low
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: and soft just because you don't even talk.
• 9:02
  Speaker 5: Like that, you know, I don't know you want to,
• 9:12
  Speaker 5: but I was an ass.
• 9:13
  Speaker 6: You know, I will never blow the incident again either
• 9:17
  Speaker 6: when it comes.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: You ever thought about doing your whole line, like a
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: full clothing line for America? I do from Ruda to
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: Tutor and everything in between, and I have.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: Thought about that. I had a chance to practice that
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: with Marnie and French Francesco Riso. Uh. We did a
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: collapse Marnie and last year a lot of things happened
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: for me in fashion last year, you know, there was
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: the last two years. It was my first fashion week.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: So that's when I really started to catch the bug.
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: And I met Francesco because we went to the met
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: ball together and we drew up some things and talked
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: about some things and had a cat so line that
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: came out and these leads are part of it.
• 10:06
  Speaker 7: The collab was everywhere. It was, Yes, everybody was in
• 10:10
  Speaker 7: y'all collab in Marnie. That was your first fashion week? Yes,
• 10:14
  Speaker 7: like you attending or like.
• 10:15
  Speaker 6: What do you mean by that?
• 10:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: It was my first fashion week in twenty twenty three?
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah wow, and.
• 10:23
  Speaker 7: That was so during that time that collab is now two?
• 10:27
  Speaker 7: Is that collab the colab when you got to work
• 10:29
  Speaker 7: with your daughter Puma too with Marnie or was it
• 10:31
  Speaker 7: a difference?
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, yes?
• 10:33
  Speaker 7: And how did that feel because it's like, okay, we
• 10:35
  Speaker 7: see lebron and Bronnie on the court and they're like,
• 10:38
  Speaker 7: you know, but like this is your lane, and now
• 10:39
  Speaker 7: your daughter's coming into it and y'all are working with
• 10:41
  Speaker 7: a fashion house.
• 10:42
  Speaker 6: How did you feel just doing that with her?
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Oh? It was surreal. It was a dream, you know,
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: because Puma is such an individual person that I didn't
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: know what direction she wanted to go in, and I
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: still don't. You know, she's she's twenty, so she's kind
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: of finding her way. And sometimes when your kid is
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: an artist, they don't want to follow your shadow. They
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: want to find their own thing, you know. But she
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: was cool with supporting me and standing beside me, and
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: she's like, Mom, I don't care, this.
• 11:18
  Speaker 5: Is for you, you know, So what are you dress?
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: Like? You?
• 11:23
  Speaker 5: If they tried like what happened with the line.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: Could you what they got to do with what we're
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 11:27
  Speaker 3: Because even I feel like I feel like I feel
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: like everything.
• 11:30
  Speaker 8: You do is spirit art, even down in your fashion.
• 11:33
  Speaker 8: So I don't know if you don't embody that spirit,
• 11:35
  Speaker 8: I don't even know how that would even.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Man, you are such a wise person, you really are.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: Ever since I've met you. You tap into things so well, Yeah,
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: I approach everything the same way. It's a feeling I feel. Yeah, yeah,
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: So would.
• 11:58
  Speaker 5: You do your own line. Do you want to do
• 11:59
  Speaker 5: your line? I know that's not something that's in your
• 12:02
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, would you have the time for it?
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would make time.
• 12:09
  Speaker 7: This is my last Fashion Questions Awards.
• 12:14
  Speaker 6: I didn't know.
• 12:14
  Speaker 5: I didn't know.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: If you want to get to I've been trying to
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: get this award since I was because I'm loaded over
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: to ask me everything. I've been playing with paper dolls,
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: trying to make sure that people, you know, really appreciate
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: my my work. It's kind of like putting putting your
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: picture on the refrigerator so your mom sees it, and
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: you never respect your mom to say nothing bad. So
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: it's such a shock every time. It's always new when
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: people are disrespectful and mean.
• 12:46
  Speaker 6: And disrespectful of me to you. Yeah, I'll suck them up,
• 12:52
  Speaker 6: like you're going against to do that to you.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: I mean they try it, you know what I'm saying.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: But I'm annointed and protected and I don't have a heart,
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: so they can't. You know, they can't penetrate me.
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: You don't have a heart.
• 13:13
  Speaker 6: And paper up.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: You don't have to take notes about this.
• 13:16
  Speaker 7: I saw online you were doing some interviews just after
• 13:19
  Speaker 7: their wards, and you were in some Jordan's. Yes were there,
• 13:22
  Speaker 7: that was a Jordan Virgil clab No, okay, it was.
• 13:26
  Speaker 7: That's not true then, because they were saying it was
• 13:27
  Speaker 7: like an unreleased It.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Was an unreleased one, but it wasn't Virgil. It was
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: shoe surgeon.
• 13:33
  Speaker 6: Got you, okay? People just give you like how how
• 13:37
  Speaker 6: do people?
• 13:39
  Speaker 7: My mom was going crazy over the collap and they
• 13:41
  Speaker 7: were trying to figure out where, like how you even
• 13:44
  Speaker 7: got the shoes?
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: Showed up at my door on the Yo.
• 13:50
  Speaker 6: Yo, I was like, I was like, yo, all my
• 13:55
  Speaker 6: fashion block pages out, yes.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: Shoot, y'all zoomed in on.
• 14:00
  Speaker 7: I resumed this so because I'm like, I don't even
• 14:01
  Speaker 7: see any of Virgils, Like you know, he has the
• 14:04
  Speaker 7: thing that he does, but you know it's him.
• 14:06
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't see none of that.
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: To get busy, yeah yeah, yes, go ahead.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah maybe I'm not gonna say nothing about that nothing, but.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: Damn yeah, how'd you feel about that?
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: It was my first time, so I'm trying to I'm
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: trying to throw throw off the audience so they don't
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: know what I told.
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: You, because I would sitting here like I want to
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: hear your answer.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know what we will tell y'all another time
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: when the news come out.
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: That's right. How do you feel about that?
• 14:49
  Speaker 8: Now, You've always been an artist that's sensitive about your ship.
• 14:51
  Speaker 8: You told that a long time ago. But you said
• 14:53
  Speaker 8: in your speech at c fd A, that is scary
• 14:55
  Speaker 8: being an artist in the social media era. So how
• 14:58
  Speaker 8: is social media made that critique worse?
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: I guess yeah, it is scary. I mean, I've heard
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: my own kids be afraid to express and share their art.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Eric Abadu, kid is scared to share their art and
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: express themselves because the audience is so vicious at this point,
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: and they have such a huge appetite for blood, and
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: they want people to be disciplined and humbled and punished
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: for their success. Almost, it's what it seems like. So
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: that's why, you know, a lot of kids are afraid to,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: you know, share their work or share their art or
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: feel like they have to come at it with some
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: kind of armor on, and that armor doesn't allow for
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: the art to truly express itself in my opinion, so
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: it's a scary time for art. We didn't have to
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: do that. We didn't have to deal with that. You know,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: you heard the little comments and things but those weren't
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: strong enough to penetrate a strong person. But these things
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: are now because when people come in you in numbers.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: You know, we've talked about group things so many times.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: It's what It was a prediction that I made with
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: the windows seat in twenty ten, group think would overshadow art,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: and it is right now, yes, because people can. People can.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's very smart to get at the the
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: channels and even the whole instead of getting at the
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: bloggers and the people. We see artists penalizing the channels themselves,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: and I think that's the smart thing, because that's what
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: has to change. If that doesn't, if there's no place
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: to do that, then then it won't be done.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: To get back to that.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: You think it'll ever get back to where people feel
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: comfortable releasing music or not hesitant because of the amount
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: of people that go at them. I mean, we see
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it in everything comedy, we see it in movies, we
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: see it in this regular conversation. People are afraid to
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: be quote unquote canceled.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like if it's eating if it's
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: feeding season, you know, you're a little bit more cautious
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to go outside, you know, squirrels are not going to
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: try to run free and not be cautious when it's
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: lying season. You know, you know it's it might get
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: back to it if we really want ah kindness. Kindness
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: seems kind of boring to people, you know what I'm saying,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: It's kind of boring. There's no there's people don't feel
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: that there could be some kind of dope of being
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: released from being kind being right.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Does that make you hesitant to release music?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: No, not me, But you haven't dropped in fourteen years.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Fourteen years, I can make you put your phone down. Yeah,
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, okay, ten years.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: But the album? But album since well, well, one reason.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I don't have to it's because I am a performance
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: artist and I've been doing that constantly for the last
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: thirty years, eight years out, eight months out of the year,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: all year round.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: I do it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: So that's what I love to do. Only put out
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: albums when I have something to say. I have something, yeah,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: something pressing to say or push out. But I'm I am.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I have more than enough space to get my art
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: out on stage, so it's not totally necessary to put
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: an album for me.
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I would just love to see the like the
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: division of God has shown you because like if you
• 19:13
  Speaker 8: look at your catalog right, your catalog literally has predicted
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: where we are now. So I can only imagine the
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: stuff you're creating right now. How far into the future
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: you're seeing things?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: M hmm, me too. I mean I'm writing right now.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I got a project coming.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Out soon, a full album.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Wow, But I can't.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Tell y'all how soon, niggasien I just got I just.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Got goosebump, So how soon?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Be soon? Soon?
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Like by the end of the year, soon or next year?
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Soon, we'll see.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an important one. It's a collapse album.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're another artist.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: You're not going to say, who are you?
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: You can Andre three thousand, he's a guy that's.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Do I think he'll rap again?
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: I'll say, is this gonna be the clap album that
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: gets on the rap again? And also you can answer
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: do you think he'll rap again?
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: And and why would you say is this gonna be
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: the collab album? Because you're assuming that it's him? Yeah,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I'm asking you can assume whatever you want. But I
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't think
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: he has to. He's speaking with that instrument it's the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: same thing. It missed, the same kind of thing. Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: The way he make us feel when with bombs over
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: bag Dad is the way he makes people who are
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: ready for that field. It's the same thing. It's his energy.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I feel it. That's the rap, you know. To me,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: he rapping to me, that's true.
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: I want to go see it. I want to go
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: see the New Blue New Blue Son tour. When he
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: performed in Brooklyn, and I felt very fulfilled, too, very fulfilled.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: That I felt fulfilled because he was fulfilled. He was happy,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: he was doing what he wanted to do at his
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: own pace. There was no urgency, you know, to be right.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: He was happy with making mistakes. It was cool. I
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed it, and I love himprov so I was
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: happy he had a chance to get up there and
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: express himself. Because I don't know, if you understand it.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We have to do this or we may be sick
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: or something. Artists who use their art as therapy or
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: use their art as a coping mechanism, you know, helps
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: me with all the things that are off balanced.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: I have to do that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So seeing him being able to do that, because I'm
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: assuming that he may feel the same way I do.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: It's just such a blessing to have that platform to
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: You know, I can see what y'all are twin flames
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: to it because he was on stage and it was
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: one part of the show where he just started going
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: making all kinds of noises and the crowd was answering
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: him back, and then he goes, I wasn't saying ship.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Last night. He I keep saying last night. I don't
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: know what data is coming up.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: But he presented you with your c FD a fashion
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: that kind of word on the way that like, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: know you, you reached out to him to have him
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: present to you, and you guys had a conversation.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: He was saying, I did well. It was a kind
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: of tricky thing. I actually reached it out to Tiana
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Taylor because I think she's next. Oh yeah, I think
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: she's I think she has a really good grasp art
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in fashion functional art. I'm really impressed and inspired. But
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I asked her and ah, I'd asked andre before but
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: he didn't respond. And then they came back and told
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: me after I asked, you know that Andreas would said yes.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: And I had to figure out how to maneuver that
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you know because that meant a lot to her. Oh yes,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I want to tell her, I love you so very
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: much and I'm so happy that we're friends. And I
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: hope that that did not bring a wedge between us
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: in any way. But that's Andre three thousand girl and
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: your best friend.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: You got to talk to people. You gotta talk to
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: people to get to him.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: No, well sometimes, yeah, it depends, you know how busy is.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I'll follow proper protocol.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Ya.
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: How do you handle the challenge of balancing like your
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: personal expression with the expectations that your fans in the
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: music industry.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Might might place on Eric Abadu?
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: How do you how do you handle the child of
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: balancing like the personal expression with the expectation the fans
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: may have, like they might expect you to show up
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: a certain way all the time.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: That's fun, you know, it's part of it's part of
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: the art, because this career is an art. It's what
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: it is. There's an art of longevity, there's an art
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: of conceptualizing, there's an art of building a persona. There's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: an art of knowing when to divvy the art out,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: knowing when to pull it back. It's all an art.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: So what the people feel and think are very very important.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: It's a major part of it because they decide who
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and what you are. I like to surprise them. I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: like to give them what they did not know they
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: they may have wanted it, because I hope that I'm
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: doing whatever I'm doing presently as well as I was
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: doing what I was doing in the past as an artist.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: When did you realize that you didn't say that you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck, and you said You're going to
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: do what you want to do. You're going to put
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: out what you want to put out. You don't necessarily
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: have to fit in the box of every artist. You
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: don't have to follow the platform and say this is it,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: take a leave it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: When did you get to that point in the contract
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: negotiation in nineteen ninety seven it was never a family
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean I didn't have to do it,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you know, and they didn't have to.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I figured it was a partnership and I was doing
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the record label of Favor. I knew who I was,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I knew what I was getting ready to do. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: had a mission and nothing was going to infiltrate it,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: not even my own fear and doubts. And I'm still
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: on mission. Best work is still in me and I
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: have not accomplished whatever that is yet, because there's still
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: this feeling of abuse and greenness and gross.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: When did you realize it was on divine assignment in
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: your life?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I always thought I was very very special, very
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: annoyingted or narcissistic one because I just believed it. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: always have. Nobody can tell me that that it's not true.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: That I have a mission and I am. I am annointed,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and I am special and I am blessed. And that's
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: why I choose service over anything because I know things.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Some things come easier to me than they will to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: someone else. So I already know.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: When you look at other artists without saying names, do
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you see it in them like they're selling themselves out?
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: I know they're different. Do you see that?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: And a lot of artists like they're selling themselves out
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: for a check or selling themselves out for a label
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: where you see they can go something different?
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Do you see that a lot?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And Bee?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't ever look at that. Yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: selling themselves out for I don't know. People do what
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: they have to do, you know, And it's not a race,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: don't all have to be at the same understanding at
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: the same time, you know, everybody, all artists don't have
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to be responsible for your kids, you know. Yeah, so
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean people doing what they have
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to do. I remember needing money too and doing things.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: It's strange things with a piece of change, you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: like performing and venues I didn't want to perform in
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: or uh yeah, so I don't know. I can't judge that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: But what do you think about that?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes they got to realize their assignment. I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: think we all go through that sometimes realize while we're there,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you know. And what made me think about it is,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you know, when j Cole jumped into that beef, he
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: came back and said this is not for me, and
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you know, people isshed on them and said this, that
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and the other. But that was his assignment and you
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: can't be mad assignment. And even me, as a fan,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: was kind of he was on a mission.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I understand that. Sometimes I believe that, you know, being
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a mission or your assignment is not always to do
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: something heavenly and great and good. Sometimes it's to create
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: some chaos so that you may shake things up. Fertilizer
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: is put into a pot to disturb the roots. It's
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: poisoning them so they have to move. So yeah, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: can't really judge it. You don't know what somebody's mission
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: is because it all counts, it's all matter.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: And you don't know what journey God got them on.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: You don't. You don't get michaelm Max without Malcolm.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Little, That's right. You don't get eric About without I'm
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: trying to think it was.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: Street name.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: You don't get eric about without butchery knife, Betty, that's
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: my new Monarcha.
• 28:50
  Speaker 8: Everybody, when when you said that you was, you knew
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: you was of service. Did you know what that was
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: going to look like? Did you know it was gonna
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: be music?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Actually I did not, But I don't consider that the service.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I consider music my privilege because I'm using the audience
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: as therapists, a thousand million therapists to get my idea
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: out of my thing. Out services are the things that
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I don't charge money for that I do because I
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: feel like it's the right thing, not because of a
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: promise of heaven or or accolades or trophy, just but
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: because of integrity and the connection between two people. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: when people hear this, they don't believe that that nobody
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: believes that. It's so strange to me that people don't
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: believe that that kind of human can't exist, you know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: they don't believe it. Maybe it's strange. Is it strange
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that I don't need anything back or I don't ask
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: for anything when I pray? Is it strange?
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: I don't think so, no, because I think to me,
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: prayer is for gratitude. I find myself when I'm praying,
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: I'm just saying thank you. And I guess, coming from
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: where I come from, a dirt road and Mosko in
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: the soide Caroline, I'm always felt good. I feel like
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: whatever God has given me in that moment is what
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: I'm supposed to have, and I'm grateful for that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: It seems like it's becoming more of a general consensus
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: that we don't need anything. We're realizing that that we
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: don't need anything, and the biggest gift we probably need
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: is peace of mind, you know. And I'm rewarded with
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: peace of mind when I do service for others for free,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: for nothing, just because right there, peace of mind. That's
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: what we just what the green juice for, what they for?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: What the music is for? What the singing is for money,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: is for bitches, is full one point to kids and
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: husband and house and cars for we all looking for
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: peace of mind, and that's how I get mine the
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: most service.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Do people take advantage of that though? Sometimes?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely, but that's none of my business.
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, were there points, like bag Lady, I was saying
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: earlier in the room that I remember when bag Lady
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: for me started hitting differently and I was listening to
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: it and it was like, Ooh, I get it now.
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: When I was younger, I was just listening to it
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: because it was played in my house and I love
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: the song, but I literally remember that feeling for you,
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: were there points in your life for you had to
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: be like ooh, I get it, like I feel it
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: bag Lady, or like.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Was this song of service for someone else?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: You mean feeling my own song?
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: You're feeling your just even before Bad Lady was created. Yeah,
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: maybe there was a time in your life that you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 7: created or inspired the song. When did you get out
• 32:04
  Speaker 7: of the bag Lady phase? And what did that feel
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: like for you?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: She has a lot of baggage, so she's trying to
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: see if did you have too or was it just
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: a song?
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: What I'm saying is what I realized is number one.
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: With my mom, I always I never understood why she
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: couldn't be happy about certain things. And then I got
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: older and I'm like, man, you carrying so much stuff.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: I tell all the time, like just let that go,
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: like we can handle that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Men have told Lauren that she needs healing.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: This with Queen.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: A couple of men did that to Lauren. They said,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I'll spend the block, but you need to heal. You
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: need to work on yourself.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Who said this to you?
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: First of all? The two people that said it to me,
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: they ain't even They probably can't even spell hell.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: So so what y'all think about the two guys, I
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: think they're right on the journey. She's on the journey.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And the two men that you respect, one of them
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: are respect told you that you need to work on yourself. Yes,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: as an insult or as in encouragement and love.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: The second one I think it was and deflecting the first.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: The first one I think it was like he really cares,
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: Like that's why when he said it, I was like, Okay,
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: I hear it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: I'm in a point in my life now where I
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: can do the accountability.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Does he need to work on himself as well?
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Yes he does?
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Does he know?
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: Yes he does?
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool? Second one really know, like it's you really
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: know he got to work on hisself.
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: I don't even want nothing to do with that, Like
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: it's bad.
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: But I asked that because I just feel like, as
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: I got older and realized how much you do care,
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: especially emotionally, sometimes it weighs into other things and it
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: closes doors, or it cuts off relationships, or you just
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: miss out on good things. And every time I listen
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: to that song, I'm like, man, how does she know
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: that people was going to need this?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, I was writing what I felt,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: you know, in my heart, and you know I did
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: hear it later And I'm talking to myself, my future self.
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: Where were you at at that time of your life
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: when you were talking to your future self? Like, what
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: was the transition you were trying to make?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I think I was transitioning out of a relationship where
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I was not happy about it. Yeah, and realizing that
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I had to leave some things behind, some parts of
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: me behind. So it felt like a funeral of sorts,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: you know, like because you have a party, you have
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: to die. Every time you evolve, you got to leave
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: it back there. You know, you want it because it's familiar,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: and a lot of times we like to resort to
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the familiar, even if it's toxic. Yeah, So you have
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: to leave that corpse, that beautiful old you has to
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: be left, and you have to walk forward and I
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: look back. That's the hardest part, not leaving the people,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: but it's leaving your own ways and you.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot of discipline.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: It is. It is.
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: When did you get to the point where you knew
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: you you had? When did you get to the point
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: where you loved every version of yourself?
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know when that happened, but I definitely do. Yeah.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I look forward to waking up and getting to do things,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: getting to experience, getting to test out my kindness. You know,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I prayed for kindness. I was like, I wanna practice kindness.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: You know, my last big whatever meltdown we were going
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: through twenty twenty or somewhere, I just wanna praxe kindness.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Two or three days later, I went to the airport.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: My ticket was wrong, my bags got put somewhere else.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: They were left on the tarmac of all bags mine.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: The lady was talking to me crazy, asked me, h, y,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: this is first class. You can't put your you know
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: that whole routine. It was everything that was hard. M
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So I was assuming that the creator was saying, we'll
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: here practice on this MM if you wanna practice kindness,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: prac here, I'll give you some things to practice some
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: cause you just don't get to beat that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: How did that work out?
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Worked out great?
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Some parts from the last time. Mama wanted to pull.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Out a gun at the airport, but I just settled
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: for having my fist balled up like Arthur. And yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I got through it because I kind of it took
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: me a little bit to realize what was happening, Like,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, I see what I see what this is.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I see what that said, you know, And.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't see you getting outside of your vibe,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: your zone.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: What vibe?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Do you think I got? You? Eric about? Tell me
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: I don't. But every time I see you, you just
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: seen mellow, chill and at peace. I don't.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: This is the place to be mellow chilling, at peace.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: There's no reason in here to be any other kind
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: of way. If anybody else comes on y'all show without this.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Call me just shine a light on that.
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: You're also playing Lucille in the Netflix movie The Piano Lesson.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Were you a fan of the play.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: I went to u as HBC Grammling State University. I
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: was a theater major. I was a desbian. So we
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: did a lot of August Wilson material, Lorraine's Hands, Lorraine Hansbury,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: h a myriad of black artists, play rights. But we
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: did do that play as well. And Lucille's part is
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: very tiny, you know. But the most important role I
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: played was composing music for the for the movie. Malcolm Washington,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: who is Denzel's Sun, is directing and he called me
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: and asked if I would uh put together some music
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: for it. And I call my very good friend Daniel Jones.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Got restless, so safe journey Daniel Jones. He came and
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: put some beautiful pieces together nineteen thirties and I wrote
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: lyrics over them. Wow, and they're they're used in the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: movie The Piano Lessons on Netflix.
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: So before we get this collaboration album, I think November eighth,
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: right eight, So before we get this collaboration album, we're
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: getting original music on this soundtrack.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, nineteen twenties thirties, so there's an acquired taste
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: period piece, period piece?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Does acting? Does acting feel like restricted? Does it feel
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: like it's restricting you in any way?
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Or no?
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: It just feels like work. Okay, yeah, my touring and
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: music doesn't feel like work, But acting does I feel
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: like work?
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: I can't even see you on the say it feel
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: like you don't seem like the hurry up and wait tipe,
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: like you want to be doing something like.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: He Yeah, I do. I always I got something that
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring an easel and some pain. I'm you know,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I really miss my kids being little. That really took
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: up a lot of mind playtime. I just want to
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: play all the time, make something, play, do something, and
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: I have to carry everything with me to make that happen.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Like if I'm working on a movie set, because there
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: are long hours and I should be reading over my lines,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: but I always wait and do it the last minute. Yeah,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: but no, I don't really dig that too much being
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: an actor in a film. I like theater though. I
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: think that's a wonderful place. I like the immediate connection
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: between you and the artists.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: And you only get like one take to do it
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: when you're on that stage.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, that's what's beautiful about it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, one stop he producing the piano lesson right. Yes,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: was he involved like he was.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Around, but he stepped back and let his children work. Yeah.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: What do you learn from your children now now that
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: they're grown?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, so many things. Like I told you guys, there
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: are definitely improvements on my design. Puma is at a
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: place now at twenty that I was thirty before. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: was at her level of understanding and emotional intelligence and
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: compassion for people. Integrity, yeah, discipline. Yeah, I was still
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: a child kind of at twenty. I learned a lot
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: from them. And they aren't very judgmental, you know, so
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: they just kind of go along with whatever I do.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: We never had rules. Who was just do what I say?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: And they did that and watched me, you know, ever
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: hid anything from them. So yeah, they're they're turning. They're
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: having their turn at showing me and teaching me patience
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: and severity. Mama, you gotta say what you feel, feel
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: what you say, Tell that that's that that's the electronic
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: A little good mars. Yeah, they will, they'll tell me.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: It can only be so kind now that you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: and our first favorite saying is a couplistic saying that
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: severity without mercy is cruelty. Mercy without severity, it's weakness.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: So we try to walk that line. You know, kindness
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: isn't all it being, you know, appearing nice. Kindness is
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: all also telling somebody to beat it right, count yourself.
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: Because you still could you write a old to hip
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: hop now in twenty twenty four, like, based off this
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: era of music, would hip hop be the love of
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: your life?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Right now?
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: It still is always you only have one love. You're
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: lucky just to have just want mhm.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Uh one love, one love? Yeah, wodini? Yeah?
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: And who did who did it over? No? Yeah, b boys,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm I'm saying. You know, y'all are looking
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: to be like why you're asking that? That's that's simple arithmetic.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, how the relationship evolved or change because relationship between
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: me and hip hop?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: It has not, because hip hop is still here. It's recorded.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: You can never go away, nobody can take it away.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: It has been recorded in time. Hip hop will be televised.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: It is down, it's I can access it at any
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: point in time.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: So it is there.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I feel the same way.
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: How do you feel about people having a conversation all
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: about it being like the third most popular genre behind
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: with Latin music, I think in in country music, Like,
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: how do you feel about that?
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: Because I think, yes, hip hop at one point.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, No, it's not third is first. I'm talking
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: about all over the planet everywhere I go, Gossip, Australia,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: New Zealand, Argentina, Africa, Mexico, everywhere I go, we are
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: praying to different gods, different names of God. But everybody
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: is not in their heads in agreeance to the one
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: kicking U snare. It's hip hop is like, it's the religion,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: it's how it's what brings us all together the whole world. Yeah, nah,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: hip hop is. It's the biggest They know that. Oh
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: they're talking about.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Not CULTU yourself.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Like culture wise, they wouldn't even be able to understand
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: it to rink it.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: But yeah, what made J Dillers so brilliant We're gonna
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: get you out of here.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: His approach uh to music was authenticity. He was authentic.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: That's what made him different.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: He had a metronome and he was true to it
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: he didne never used the quantization button. He never quantized.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: It was always his inner metronome. So the snares were live.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Usually when when we produce, we are using a kick
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: in the snare button and we push a button called
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: quantize and it puts it on the grid on the
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: two and the four.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: So what's the same all the time.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, which gives us a certain swing depending on what
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: what the feel you want. But Deyler's field was his
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: field because it was always live. So he would do
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: maybe a couple of quantized things, you know, he had
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: a little tricks here and there with the snares, but
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: for the most part he was very simple and unquantized.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: So for four minutes he would actually play the beat
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: so the snares wouldn't necessarily be on them.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which is amazing because it's feeling.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Not not necessarily all the time. Sometimes he would just
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: play the play the kick and the snare alive, or
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: play the kick and snare a live and do the
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: high hats live gotcha or the shakers because those those
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: are laying back, so his beat's laid back. I don't
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: know how to explain it, but he had a laid
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: back he was on his own beat rhythm, and he
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: brought he brought all of us to that place. Yeah,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it was a certain hump that he had can't be explained.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: But that's what made him so special, and his choices
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: and samples and his collection of music.
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: He was a historian.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: M hm.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: He was also very You have to be mathematical. But
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I told stories before how when I opened this refrigerator,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: all the coke cans will be lined up like so symmetrically.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to get one, you know. But I
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: don't drink coke nowhere. But you know, I have to
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: make that clear.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: As you said, when.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: People crazy, I've.
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: Seen the behive. Behive chased you a little bit for
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: a little bit.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Where's the behi now.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: Twitter?
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I ain't seen to be uh a long time. And
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I love bees.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: They don't know I like it. I love bees and
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I tot them. Yeah we lately though, mm hmm. They're
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: gonna tell me.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Them tomorrow, see them tomorrow.
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: I like the tweet when you said, Jay, you're gonna
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: let this woman in needs be something. You're gonna let
• 47:31
  Speaker 8: this woman needs be.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know why people think take things so serious.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: It's just my sense of humor. I love ja.
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: When you saw the cover though, knowing that there is
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: an inspiration like, does do those inspiration moments? Are you
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: feeling like, oh my god, they saw what I was
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: trying to do, they love it, they're still doing it,
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: or do you feel like, oh that was mine?
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: Like, don't bite.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I have to be very careful with this because my
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: children watching me, and that generation is watching and as
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: much as we love our art, it doesn't belong to
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: us once it goes out in the world. However, though,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: you can't. You can't manage what people are going to
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: do with the art. You can't manage whether they're going
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: to duplicate it or do another interpretation of it, or
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: just enjoy it or use it as an inspiration. You
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: can't manage that. But you don't have to remain silent
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, you can. If it makes you feel
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: the way, you should say something about it. Yeah.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: But outside of that, there are a lot of artists
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that get there. You can tell their style, their approach
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: everything from you and you do see that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Does that bother you or do you look at it
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: like I put my art out there and it is what.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: It is or do you mind it all that they
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: don't show you respect and love and say what it
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: came from here?
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: As I'm mature, more I have less of a need
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: two h own own something. And the more I let
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: go of it, the more I am acknowledged. Isn't that something? Yeah?
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: The more I let go of the need of that,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: then you get a call and say, hey, we want
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: to give you an award. That's how the universe works
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: in my world. So I saw that, and I was
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: very proud of that award and proud of that moment
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: because I had let go of some things that were
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: no longer evolving me thinking you know, and then there
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: comes they give it to you because I became it,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: because they don't give you what you want, to give
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: you what you are.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: That's a ball. You heard that one.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: My last question. I feel like everything you do is
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: spirit all.
• 49:58
  Speaker 8: Like I said earlier, is it even possible for you
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: to do any type of art without divine energy being involved?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. Even if I'm not aware of it,
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: it's all. It always involved. Yeah, something there's something I
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: know what it is, but there's something we floating on
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: that's uh giving us life, you know, choices of some sort. Yeah,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: you know, we're born, Uh, we're told you know, once
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: we're born, you know that our religion was here already.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Are what we supposed to believe in the tribe, the ways,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: the hunting ways, the what we worship, uh, how we worship, uh,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: how we learn, how we cook, how we dress. There's
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: a tribe and you learn that. Hopefully you go outside
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: of that once you are of age to explore other things,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: because you want to see if that is true. Yeah,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: then you explore even further. You want to go outside
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: of that and see how you feel being entangled with
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: another person, another human, and then after that you go.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Like entangled, entangled entanglement.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Entanglement is when two cells meet and become something. Yeah,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: so you become entangled with another human in the next
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: phase of your life. Then hopefully you learn that and
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: learn some boundaries, and then now you're an individual human
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: who's creative in spirit, and then you have to learn
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: how to walk in that humanness, in that spiritualness. I
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: don't know what I was saying or how we got
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: to this, but because I asked.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: You, is it possible for you to make art without
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: that divine in No, not.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: For me, because I believe that. I believe that. Yeah,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: do you think it's possible to do anything without.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Not anything meaningful?
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Not anything meaning So you so you think or you
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: feel that there's an opposite of the bat.
• 52:18
  Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, I feel like there's just I think
• 52:22
  Speaker 8: that you know, you have your divine and then you
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: just have your human right. So we're all spiritual beings
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: living in human existence. So you can do all types
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: of things in the human existence right, and you may
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: think they feel good in the moment, and they may
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: just when it's not lasting, it's not fulfilling. You can
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: you know when you're doing something divine.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: You know when God is Oh absolutely, and you.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Don't have to do much, it's just your body feeling.
• 52:44
  Speaker 6: You just show up and do what you do, and
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: everything around you just move.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: That's how music and performing is to me. It's the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: only thing in my life that is like that. Yeah,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: when I get up there, I'm not wrong, I'm not
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: too skinny, I'm not too ugly, I'm not too anything.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Everything is right.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: You got some shows coming up.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I do Maryland this weekend, Yes, d C First and
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: second Brazil on the sixth that's right in San Francisco
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: on the sixteenth. And also you can check out do
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: worldmarket dot com if you want to get all types
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: of things like the order.
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: We ordered there.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I know I've been waiting even we don't realize how
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: big the fan base is, the reaches, but it's amazing.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: Because it's always so out.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I bought you guys from Funko. You do y'all gotta
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: cut it open if you want to see it.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
• 53:51
  Speaker 6: Oh, this is the figure that you've created.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: This is the this is the Buncle Buncle Pop is
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: just collective.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: Look at the email. Look at this afford this to
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: my wife. I like this. She took me like this morning.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: It's so cute. Now we got one.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: So they're pop culture vinyl toy collective and they specialized
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: in artists our icons.
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they specialized and not doing it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: We need to put a shelf up there.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: You'll get it before, okay, okay, And she's cute, man.
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: So this first one they did is the call Tyrone video,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: so that we I actually reached out to Funko to
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: do this because I thought it was important for my
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: kids to have these. They love Funkos and I surprised
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: them one day. And I have a fun go like
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: your own funk. Oh you yeah, yeah you.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: That's dope. Thank you again for joining us. We always
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: appreciate you.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I appreciate you too.
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: No, we do definitely do.
• 55:14
  Speaker 8: We love you, value you, appreciate you. I literally just
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: told somebody last week, I said, I don't play about you.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Didn't have a conversation either or envy there you go
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: at all and I don't play about you.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: And if something happened, you called me.
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: I got you. I'm gonna call you. Yeah, because may
• 55:34
  Speaker 6: be acting up in here. Honestly, that's not true.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I don't believe it. I might need to leave.
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: Nothing like that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Don't do that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: It'd be hard.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Don't do that.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: It'd be tough.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: He'd be tough, just like some incentse he'll calm down.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: Now we got the puts in here. Maybe he'll relax.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Everybody. Everybody gonna relax, thank you. Yeah, within a thirty
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: mile ready, everybody gonna be relaxed. I appreciate y'all. Always
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: poorty me.
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: What's Eric Abradu, sister, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, thanks,
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: good morning. Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: club