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LNC Takes a Dip with the Creature From the Black Lagoon · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the larger nor Dron Collider podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I'm Aerial cast in and Whickney is always
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  Speaker 1: is the super crazy awesome Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: I've got pac Man fever.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't know if there's a cure for that.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean it's I have I don't have a
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  Speaker 2: ghost of a chance. I guess.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, if you watch the uh remember
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  Speaker 1: name the little anthology series about video games that was
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  Speaker 1: done by the Love Death and Robots people, that pac
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  Speaker 1: Man short is creepy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that that one was pretty yeah
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  Speaker 2: like like out there. Uh yeah. The reason I said
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  Speaker 2: that is because and we'll chat about little bit in
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  Speaker 2: this episode, though not a whole lot is the There
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  Speaker 2: were a bunch of video game related stuffs that happened
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  Speaker 2: since our last recording, Like the Switch To came out,
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  Speaker 2: so that was big. Summer Gamefest was a thing. Xbox
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  Speaker 2: did its its Xbox like exhibition thing as well, so
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  Speaker 2: lots of video game news out there. We'll talk a
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  Speaker 2: little bit about video games we usually like to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: include things like that since it is geeky. But a
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  Speaker 2: lot of other geeky news broke too, so I had
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  Speaker 2: to make an executive decision and I cut back on
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  Speaker 2: it a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: That's totally fine. I'm gonna there was so much that
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  Speaker 1: was announced in those video games anyhow that I'm still
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  Speaker 1: trying to catch up on all the trailers for them.
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  Speaker 2: To say same Like, I watched Live for a while,
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  Speaker 2: but I there was something else that came up where
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  Speaker 2: I could not. I couldn't stay glued for like the
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  Speaker 2: whole two plus hours or whatever it was, so I
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  Speaker 2: saw bits and pieces plus like, gotta admit. There are
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  Speaker 2: times where a developer will get up there and start
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  Speaker 2: talking about a game and I'm sure that they worked
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  Speaker 2: very hard on the game. I'm sure the game is
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  Speaker 2: great for the people who love it, but it will
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  Speaker 2: be a game that have no interest in and then
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like, this is like being called into a
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  Speaker 2: work meeting where you don't really have any stake in
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  Speaker 2: what's going on, and you're like, this could have been
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  Speaker 2: an email like that if it gives off that energy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I pulled an article from Ing that said everything announced,
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  Speaker 1: but it is not everything announced because one of the
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  Speaker 1: games that I'm very excited about, I'm pretty sure is
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  Speaker 1: not on this article.
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  Speaker 2: So they lie.
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  Speaker 1: I'll try to find something. Well, when we get there,
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  Speaker 1: I'll try to find something more extensive.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, part of it is a little complicated because
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  Speaker 2: while we were leading up to this episode, I know,
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  Speaker 2: vox Media was on the verge of workers going on strike,
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  Speaker 2: the writers at Vox Media Publications going on strike, and
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  Speaker 2: the Verge is one of those properties that's under vox Media.
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  Speaker 2: Polygon used to be, but it actually got sold earlier
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  Speaker 2: this year, and I'm sure that affected things too. From
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  Speaker 2: what I understand, as of the time we're recording this episode,
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  Speaker 2: the sides have reached at least a tentative agreement.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that is good to hear. So let's, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: get into our normal format and stop talking about things
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  Speaker 1: that we're not at yet.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sure, Well let me ask you a question then, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: all right, here's our question. So we've seen several of
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  Speaker 2: the classic universal monsters refreshed in recent years, from Dracula,
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  Speaker 2: like in the Last Voyage of the Demeter or Aosphoratu.
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  Speaker 2: You could are you is a refresh on Dracula to Frankenstein.
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  Speaker 2: We've got the upcoming Frankenstein from Pierre model Toro, or
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  Speaker 2: the wolf Man or the Invisible Man. But which of
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  Speaker 2: these classic monsters which you want to see refreshed most,
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  Speaker 2: because these are ones that have not really received the
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  Speaker 2: refresh treatment. And your choices are Doctor Jekyl's slash mister Hyde.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not counting the Russell Crowe character from the
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  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise Mummy movie, the Hunchback of Notre Dame, the
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  Speaker 2: Phantom of the Opera, or the Creature from the Black Lagoon.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you you didn't mean the Billy Zane the Phantom.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, Phantom of the Opera. Yeah, classic universal monster,
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  Speaker 2: Billy z Ay I mean, I mean not the the
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  Speaker 2: not the character, the actor Billy.
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  Speaker 1: Zay I mean anyhow. Uh So my answer is a
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  Speaker 1: little bit cheating, of course, the Creature from the Black Lagoon,
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  Speaker 1: because that's you know, kind of like King Hoong. That's
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  Speaker 1: a people are You're kind of the last of your
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  Speaker 1: kind of people are going into your home and threatening you,
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  Speaker 1: and so what are you gonna do? But you know
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  Speaker 1: that that character does show, especially in like some of
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  Speaker 1: the later like empathy and understanding and you know all that.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like that's a more sympathetic character. However,
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  Speaker 1: it's also kind of a cheat answer because we did
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  Speaker 1: learn like in earlier this month. Actually, there's an article
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  Speaker 1: on the Hollywood News on June tenth that James Wand
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  Speaker 1: is working on a Black Lagoon reynake.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, to be fair, universal Is has at some
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  Speaker 2: point had productions for almost all of these in some
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  Speaker 2: form of development. In some cases it withered on the
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  Speaker 2: vine because it was supposed to be part of the
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  Speaker 2: Dark Universe, you know, connected cinemat universe, but that obviously
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  Speaker 2: didn't really take off because The Mummy, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you know, this didn't do so well and got
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  Speaker 2: a lot of critical handing.
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  Speaker 1: But you're not you're not talking You're not talking about
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about the Tom Cruise, the Mummy.
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  Speaker 2: Tom Cruise Mummy, not the Brendan.
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  Speaker 1: Frasermy, which is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like thirty years old. I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 2: one that came out a decade ago.
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  Speaker 1: It's like five years old.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well whatever, Anyway, I agree with you. I think
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  Speaker 2: Creature from the Black up Lagoon would be my choice.
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  Speaker 2: I also think it's an easier thing to adapt for
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  Speaker 2: the same reasons you were mentioning, Like if you think
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  Speaker 2: of the Phantom of the Opera or the Hunchback of
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame, the things that make those characters quote unquote
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  Speaker 2: monstrous are that they're differently abled. So that's hard to
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  Speaker 2: do in a way that doesn't just come across as ablest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, I was gonna say the same thing, like,
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  Speaker 1: neither of those should really, Well, the Phantom of the
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  Speaker 1: Opera should be a monster just because while while he
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  Speaker 1: has had issues, like while he has definitely been mistreated,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he kind of lets it turn turn him
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  Speaker 1: creepy and evil.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you could. You could argue that his journey
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  Speaker 2: into evility was one that was not entirely his fault,
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  Speaker 2: that this is a lot of nurture versus nature, and therefore,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but then you could argue, well, that just
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  Speaker 2: gives you a deeper understanding as to his motivations, and
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  Speaker 2: that you're supposed to be somewhat sympathetic but ultimately not
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  Speaker 2: be on his side because he still wants to do
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  Speaker 2: monstrous things. I think there are ways to handle it.
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  Speaker 2: Properly where it doesn't just come across as uh, this
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  Speaker 2: character is evil because they are also ugly, Like that's
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  Speaker 2: that's the way it often has been presented, and that
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  Speaker 2: that's the part that doesn't work. So there are ways
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  Speaker 2: to do it where it does work. Same with Hunchback. Arguably,
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  Speaker 2: if you do it the right way, I think also
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  Speaker 2: you would need to do it where it was set
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  Speaker 2: in the appropriate time period.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, The Hunchback of Notre Dame is just one
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  Speaker 1: where I'm like, that's that's not a monster at all
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  Speaker 1: in my mind, and I hate that it was ever
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  Speaker 1: plumped into that. I will say, like, I guess also
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  Speaker 1: Gilman did kind of already have a reboot, but it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a part of Universal. It was like the Shape
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  Speaker 1: of Water is vaguely, vaguely inspired by from the Black Lagoon,
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  Speaker 1: which I did like Shape of Water quite a bit,
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  Speaker 1: But I really like.
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  Speaker 2: Was that Who was it that did that? Did that one? Ye? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was Gimble. The problem is that my
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  Speaker 2: brain mixes up titles so much, and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that's the Gheramo del Toro one. I
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  Speaker 2: never saw it. I heard it was great. I know
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  Speaker 2: that I should watch it. I just haven't seen it.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I think that's the Gheramo del Toro
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  Speaker 2: one and not the m Night shayamma On one where
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  Speaker 2: it was the swimming pool. Yeah, I can't remember the
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  Speaker 2: name of what that was it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was not m Night shayama On at all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I liked it. I didn't watch it until much later.
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  Speaker 1: Like I didn't go to see Shape of Water in
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  Speaker 1: the theater. I saw Pan's Labyrinth in the water, and
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  Speaker 1: I saw hell Boy. Oh my gosh. No, I saw
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  Speaker 1: it in the theater, and I also saw Hellboy in
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  Speaker 1: the theater, but I didn't see Shape of Water in
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  Speaker 1: the theater.
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  Speaker 2: So that goes staring into the water and there before
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  Speaker 2: me played out the entirety of Band's Labyrinth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a mermaid and my brain just lives there. But
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  Speaker 1: I also like Dug Jones, so I'm a little bit
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  Speaker 1: who played the creature in the Shape of Water.
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  Speaker 2: So also also Blade Pan and Pan's Labyrinth as well
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  Speaker 2: as as well as the was it the was it
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  Speaker 2: the pale Man that's the character's name, the one that
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  Speaker 2: had the eyes and the palms of its hands. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: super creepy. One. Yeah, also also was in hocus Pocus.
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  Speaker 1: Was also in Hell Boy. Uh, yep, he was. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the voice actor for Abe Sapien, but he was
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  Speaker 1: the physical actor for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the body actor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm so glad that he gets more and
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  Speaker 1: more opportunities to be the full actor for things because
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  Speaker 1: he's so flip and talented.
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  Speaker 2: He is. He's i mean, he's he's got incredible uh
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  Speaker 2: ability to do space work and body work and that
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  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, like the sort of things that people
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  Speaker 2: train in when they're they're learning their craft and theater.
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  Speaker 2: But you don't really hear like movie actors talk about
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  Speaker 2: it very much, but you can tell that he's like
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  Speaker 2: a master at that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But also, like so he played saru uh the
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  Speaker 1: like the second in command in Star Trek Discovery, full character, right,
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  Speaker 1: not just providing a.
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  Speaker 2: Month ster, not just not just a body in a suit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And just his emotional depth and range is also
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  Speaker 1: just stunning. I love watching that person perform, so.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's great. I'm glad that we both have
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  Speaker 2: the same answer for this one, you know, and maybe
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  Speaker 2: we'll end up seeing it. It's hard to say, because
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  Speaker 2: like the universal stuff, so much of it does end
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  Speaker 2: up kind of being in limbo because, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: there's supposed to be an Invisible Woman project. I think
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  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Banks is attached to that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I thought there was already an Invisible Woman project
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  Speaker 1: that had the actress from The Handmaid's Tale in it.
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  Speaker 2: Might be, it might be the it's changed since the
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  Speaker 2: last time I looked at it. It's just there's so
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  Speaker 2: much and it's hard to keep track of all, especially
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  Speaker 2: since there was a bunch of stuff that was under
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  Speaker 2: the Dark Universe umbrella that obviously got canceled once that
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  Speaker 2: became a non starter.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I do feel like of all the all
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  Speaker 1: the directors, even though I haven't watched a lot of
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  Speaker 1: like James Wand's stuff, where I to look at his
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: catalog of works and it includes Aquaman and then things
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  Speaker 1: like The Conjuring and Saw and Insidious, Like right, there
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  Speaker 1: is the mix between water Lover and horror. So it
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  Speaker 1: feels like a good fit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll keep our eyes out. Well, while we
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  Speaker 2: talk about the things that we're hoping to see in
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  Speaker 2: the future, let's talk a little bit about what we've
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  Speaker 2: seen over the past week. So Ariel what have you
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  Speaker 2: been checking out since our last recording?
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  Speaker 1: So I'm keeping up with murder Bot and the episodes
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  Speaker 1: are wonderful and woefully too short. They're all like under
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes. Maybe a couple grays thirty minutes, but it's
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: just delightful. It's you know, it's it's not all happy,
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  Speaker 1: but it's all fun. I'm watching ted Lasso, which is
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  Speaker 1: the same way. It's it's uplifting, which I have found
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  Speaker 1: absolutely refreshing. I watched the first episode of cloud word Ho,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: which is the new actual play on to mention twenty.
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: I tried watching the second episode, which came out this week,
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  Speaker 1: but I tried watching it yesterday, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if any of the rest of you noticed, but I
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: certainly did that there was just huge tech outages everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was trying to edit an audition and I
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: couldn't because my editing software, which connects is like a
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: software as a service product, was not working, would not
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: let me log in thing, and like I just couldn't
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: get cloud word Hoe to run. And I felt like
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: I was going crazy because I was like, I can't
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  Speaker 1: get anything to work. But that's fun. That's been fun.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: It's a steampunk airship adventure kind of a thing, and
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: it's with the normal crew of tabletoppers that they use,
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: like the main cast, so Lou Wilson, Emily ax Ford,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Murphy exactly, I'm a Ali Beardsley and Chivon Topson.
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  Speaker 1: So but that's been a lot of fun. I tried
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: watching the Tonies because I have Paramount Plus, but I
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  Speaker 1: apparently don't have a high enough tear of Paramount plus,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: which means I don't have showtime.
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  Speaker 2: So I couldn't have Paramount plus plus.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have it plus plus, so I couldn't watch
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  Speaker 1: it live. So I was relegated to like refreshing my
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: phone every five minutes to see if they had announced
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  Speaker 1: any other winners. Because you know, as I've talked about
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: on the show ad nauseum my childhood Acquaintances show was
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  Speaker 1: up for a bunch of Tonies. They didn't win a
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  Speaker 1: single one, and I think it's a crying shame. But
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  Speaker 1: also like when you start watching people get announced and
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  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that one and it won again. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's what's gonna run away with it. We'll talk more
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  Speaker 1: about who did win later.
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  Speaker 2: I was about to say, don't spoil it. You've got
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  Speaker 2: three seconds or less where you're going to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cheating by talking a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit about it now.
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  Speaker 1: But I have started going back and watching some of
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: the performances and they were they've been fun.
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  Speaker 2: So that's cool. I didn't catch any of it. I
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  Speaker 2: heard that Cynthia Rivo did a good job as the host.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I saw, you know, a little bit of the different
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: shows that took home awards. There were you know, depending
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: on who you were, like, there were different camps that
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: were like really gung host, especially for best Actress, Like
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: there were some Best Actress in a musical in particular.
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  Speaker 2: There were some gung ho camps and clearly not everyone
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: can win, and so one side was really happy and
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: another side was less happy. But we'll talk about that later.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: For me, I watched Captain America Brave New World Finally, whoo.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I have to agree with things that Ariel has said
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: in the past. I think the acting was was really
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: good across the board. I thought the story was not
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: that great to me, and felt like it was an
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Incredible Hulk movie without an Incredible Hulk, like so many
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: references to the Incredible Hulk film, which was the second
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: one in the MCU timeline, like so many references to
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: it and hardly any references to to Sam Slash, Captain
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: America slash you know, former Falcon. There's a little bit,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: but not a lot, And that was wild to me.
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  Speaker 2: I was not, like, I think it's mid. It's not bad,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: but it is mid. I think it is a little
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: better than what some people said, Like, I saw a
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  Speaker 2: lot of reviews that said it was like an extra
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: long episode of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and I
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: felt that that's unfair. Yeah, but not by a whole lot. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it's still a middling MCU movie. It's certainly not in
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: the top for Captain America. For me, that's still Winter Soldier.
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  Speaker 2: I still think that's the best Captain America. This is
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: one of the best MCU movies, full stop, at least
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. Also watched a little bit more of
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Rick and Morning season seven. I can only watch like
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: an episode every couple of days because it's just so nihilistic.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: It's is so dark. I didn't watch. I mean, no,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: that's a spoiler. I won't say it. Even though the
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: season seven spin out Forever and they're doing season eight now.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I watched most of a Rested Alien episode. I'm still
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: in season one on that show because it's hard to
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: get through. So again, I like Alan Tudick's performance. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: just find a lot of the situations to be so
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: awkward that I can't sit and watch them all in
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: one go. I also find it weird, how like I
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: can't quite get my finger on the pulse of the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: tone of the show because other not every other character,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: but some other characters are just cartoonishly cranked up to eleven. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the sheriff, the sheriff in particular, and then like the
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: best friend of the medical assistant. Those two characters are
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: like they're cranked up until the colors are bleeding through.
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  Speaker 2: That's so saturated.
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  Speaker 1: Drives me crazy. I mean, it must be fun to do,
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  Speaker 1: it must be a fun project to work on, but
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  Speaker 1: watching it, it drives me crazy because I just I
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  Speaker 1: can't I can't immerse myself in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they don't feel like real people, right, They're
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: they're too extreme to be real people. And the mayor
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  Speaker 2: is almost at that level, but I feel is slightly
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: more grounded than either the sheriff or that best friend character,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the bartender character, the mayor character, I feel is a
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: little more grounded, and the kid is probably on that
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: same the mayor's kid, it's probably on that same level.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: And then some other folks are like, oh no, this
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: feels like a real person. Like the medical assistant and
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: her dad both mostly feel like real people, so it's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: very jarring to have. Like, you know, if you watch
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Always Sonny, the main all the bad characters and Always
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Sonny are cartoonishly bad, and then most other characters are
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: kind of straight straight men, like normal straightment to play
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: off of. Right, this doesn't feel like that. This just
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: feels like it feels like you got like three different
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: RPGs with similar but slightly different systems, and you're trying
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to mess them all together in play one game and
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: then one other thing. I want to mention. I haven't
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: watched it yet, but I have noticed that Deep Cover,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: which is that thriller comedy where the improv comedians are
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: approached to become undercover agents on behalf of law enforcement.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It is now available on Prime Video, so I plan
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: on checking that out this weekend. I have time.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm interested in that as well. It's got
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Bryce Dallas Howard y'all, I'm so sorry Orlando Bloom, Sean Bond,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Sean Bean, and Nick Muhammad in it. So yeah, makes
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Shane It's yeah, that's that one. It's that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a pretty pretty stacked cast list. So that's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: it for me. That's what I've been watching and what
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I hope to watch soon.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I've I.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Have friends who are like, if you like sci fi
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and Goofy, you watch Ricky Morty is such a gross cartoon.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I don't mind the grossnest I it's for me, it's
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the philosophical nihilism that is just draining. I can't. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: mentioned this last week I think where I said one
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: of the issues I have is that you've got a
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: character who is so bleak and in the show, he's
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: never wrong. So like it's almost like a straw man
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: argument where you know, you're putting forth something as if
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: it's what the other person's arguing and it's not. That's
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: what this feels like. It feels like a straw man
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: argument for you know, you create a character who is
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: never wrong, and you imbue him with this nihilistic perspective
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: and within the fiction of the show. It's impossible to
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: say that he's he's got the wrong take because he's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: never wrong, and it just makes me depressed.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well let's let's move on to less
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: depressing things, because who can be depressed in the theater?
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Some Broadway shows are very depressing.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, who can be depressed when you
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: can only spend thirty seconds or less talking about it?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, challenge accepted. So, as we mentioned the Tony's happened,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I didn't get to watch it live, but you know
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I did follow who won. There were several geeky shows
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that did win. Picture of Dorian Gray, which we consider geeky,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: won a bunch of awards. The musical that ran away
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: with the most awards was Maybe Happy Ending, which stars
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Darren Chris and Helen Sheen and there are two helperbots
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: who discover each other and fall in love. It's an
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: interesting show. It started off it takes place in Korea,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: which is where the show originated. It's a one act show,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: but it's still like an hour and a half. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I've watched some songs from it. It's lovely. The visual
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: design is really great and Darren Chris is a great actor.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I actually have watched him on Broadway. He was in
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the production of American Buffalo with Sam Rockwell and Laurence Fishburn.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I watched, so they won. Like I said, my friend's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: musical Dead Outlaw didn't win, but they sure rocked their
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: performance and watching their If you are on the social
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: media's go check out Dead Outlaw, the musical's social media
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: presence because it is hilarious. That's it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Well, Spaceballs, the nineteen eighty seven film from mel Brooks
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that spoofed the Star Wars franchise, is getting a sequel.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Amazon MGM plans to debut the film in twenty twenty seven,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: forty years after the original came out. Bill Pullman, Daphne Zeniga,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and Rick Moranis are all expected to return. Josh Gadd
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: co wrote the script and will also be in the film,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: as possibly will. Bill Pullman's son Louis Pullman, who was
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: recently in Thunderbolts and mel Brooks, will once again be
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: back as Yogurt.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Was Lewis Pullman the Century.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Ah yeah, I wonder if that. I wonder if it's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: gonna hold up. I I but I'm so excited about
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Rick moranis doing stuff again. Ah, okay too, speaking of
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: maybe excited. So we've talked. We haven't talked about this
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: in a while because there just hasn't been too much
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to talk about. Back in July twenty twenty four, almost
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: a year ago ago, video game the video game Voice
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Actors went union went on strength interactive media contract folk
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: like largely over AI use in video games, and they
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: have finally a year later, almost reached a tentative agreement.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: So there's a tentative agreement. It still needs to be
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: voted on and ratified, so the strike is not over yet,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: but hopefully it will be soon. Because they were this
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: was David fighting goliath. It felt like they were facing
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of really big video game developers just for
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the right to be able to be the owners of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: their own voice and performance. So here's hoping that they
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: come to good and equitable agreements and can finally get
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: back to work, because I'm sure they all.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Really want to absolutely well. We have some more updates
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: on casting for the upcoming Harry Potter series on HBO
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Max joining John Lithgow will be Who's going to be
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Dumbledore is Catherine the It crowd, Parkinson who will be
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Molly Weasley, And I have to confess I don't recognize
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: other names, like there's locks Pratt and honestly, that could
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: either be an actor or a character I wouldn't know,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: or Johnny Flynn, Leo Early Cna, Musa Bell Powley or
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Daniel Rigby. I don't recognize any of those names. But
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I'm also uncultured swine, so take it as you will.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I have no Saguaray from that to my story, which
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: is Sean Levy is working on a Star Wars Starfighter
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: movie and we finally got some casting for it. Ryan
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Gosling and Mia Goth will be facing off. It's supposed to,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I think, come out in twenty twenty seven. The interesting
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: thing about this is it takes place like five years
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: after the events of Rise of Skywalker. It's not a prequel,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: it's not a sequel, and it's a new adventure and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: it's set in a period of time that hasn't been explored,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: which is all very exciting. Thank you Sean Levy for
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: giving us a new story in the world that's exciting.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: On April tenth, twenty twenty six, Sarah Michelle Geller and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Elijah Wood will join Samora Weaving for a game of
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: hide and seek and Ready or Not, Here I Come.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: This is the sequel to the twenty nineteen horror comedy.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: It's also gonna start Nestor Carbonell, Catherine Newton, and Kevin Durand,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: among others. And I'm not sure if this will be
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a die hard situation in which Samara's character once again
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: finds herself being hunted by a demented family. We'll just
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: have to wait and find out.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: If you are into the popcorn bucket game for movies
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: that come out, well, make a little bit more space
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: than usual because the Galactus Head popcorn bucket is giant.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It's seventeen point five inches tall and twenty inches wide,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and it's like eighty bucks. I still don't think it's
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: quite as ridiculous as the Warhammer one for the Knights
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: of Roharim, but it's up there.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: If you're like me, you go through life pretending the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Blues Brothers two thousand movie doesn't exist, and there never
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: was a follow up to the original Bonker's film from
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty, but soon a graphic novel will attempt to
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: tell a fitting follow up to The Blues Brother's Shenanigans,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: with the story following an ordained Elwood Blues searching for
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: his brother Juliet Jake, who has apparently escaped prison against
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: his will. I'll miss the music, but I'm on board
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: for this.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Jonathan tells me that Incredibles three Lands landed a director,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and that it's not the same director as one and two.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: It is not Brad Bird. It is Peter Soone, who
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: did Elemental in The Good Dinosaur, neither of which I've watched,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: one of which I've heard is good, one of which
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: i've heard is real bad. So I don't well. At
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: first of all, I don't think incredible stream needs to happen,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: but I am more up in the air about it
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: than I was before.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: On miss names. Yeah, Brad Bird's still writing and producing,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: so there's that. At least the script will be brad Bird's,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: but he will not be directing. Yeah. I have seen
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: both Elemental and The Good Dinosaur.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Yep, was the direction the issue?
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to say. I was so the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Good Dinosaur. I found bland beyond description, like it like
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it washed over me and nothing stuck. Uh. It wasn't bad.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: It just wasn't anything special. It was such a far
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: cry from other Pixar films that were that connected to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: me emotionally on a much deeper level, and it just
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: didn't do that that It was kind of it was.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: It was a wake up call. Really. It was like, oh,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Pixar is not perfect, They're not infallible. They can put
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: out stuff that doesn't and reportedly there was a lot
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: of like issues with production behind the scenes, like I
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: think The Good Dinosaur ended up changing directions dramatically through
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the process. But Elemental was fine. I think it's a
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: middle tier Pixar film for me. The biggest problem with
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Elemental was the marketing because it didn't really indicate the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Elemental largely was about the immigrant experience. In many parts,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: it didn't seem to indicate that to me at all,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: and yet that's a large part of what the movie
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: was about. I've seen some criticisms saying that Elementals issues
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: are that it was trying to do too much, like
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: it's had too many different issues it was tackling at
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the same time because the immigrant experience was just one
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: of them, and I kind of agree with that. I
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: think it wasn't very focused, which you could argue as
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a director issue. But I still haven't seen Incredibles too.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: The Incredibles, for me, is one of those movies that
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I just love. Yeah, so, yeah, I haven't seen it yet.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Like Jurassicar, there didn't need to be a second I
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: didn't watch the did I watch I think I did
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: watch the second one, but I don't remember a lot
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: about it. I get it confused with Meet the Robinsons.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: So have a big head and little arms. Yeah, it's
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: my favorite. That's the only thing I remember from that movie.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: That movie that again made no impression on me, But
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the dinosaur wearing the top the bowler was my favorite part.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Was Well, let's talk about a couple of things. We
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: only have a couple of entries this week for stuff
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: that doesn't really fit our show, and arguably you could
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: say they both do fit.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be my argument the first of But
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: I you know, I I can't say that I know
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that the first one would fit, the first one in
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: our lineup would fit the show because I have never
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: read Animal Farm.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Well I have. Animal Farm is a book by George Orwell.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: It's kind of a book that is meant to show
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the downfall of the pathway of communism, of how how
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: communism was meant to be this idealistic system that would
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: ensure equity among all of the people of Russia. But
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: ultimately what it really did was it created an oligarchy
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: of a small number of people who held enormous amounts
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: of power, and everybody else was just subject to their whims.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Animal Farm tells that but in the setting of a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: farm house, like an actual farm, with the pigs playing
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the part of the leaders of the revolution. And it's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: not strict, it's not really it's not a comedy at all.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: It's not a comedy. But the we just got a
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: like a minute long excerpt of a new animated adaptation. Now,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: there was an animated adaptation in the nineteen fifties, and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: there was a live action adaptation with creatures created by
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the Jim Henson Creature Shop in like twenty nineteen or
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: something like that. But this is a this is a
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: newly animated version. And Seth Rogan voices one of the characters,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Napoleon the pig. So the excerpt is showing Napoleon talking
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: to a young piglet named Lucky that and trying to
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: kind of indoctrinate him into the the Animal Farm version
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: of communism.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: But he's being mean to another piglet, and I just
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: want to hug that other piglet. He just wants to
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: be loved. I relate to that.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: So it's the other piglet's his actual son, Oh no,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and he's he's ignoring him in order to indoctrinate this
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: other piglet and treat him like a son, which is
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: not from the novel. It's just it's done as a
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: gag in this version. So Andy Serkis is the director
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: of this version of Animal Farm. You've got a lot
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: of other famous celebrities who are providing voices, people like
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: a immon Vellani, Kathleen Turner, Woody Harrelson, Steve Bussemi, Glenn Close,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Kieran Coulkin, Jim Parsons. Like there's a ton I read
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: a review from Variety which was not very encouraging. The
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Variety review essentially said that they inserted a lot of
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: sophomoric humor, like a lot of fart jokes, essentially in
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: order to make it like funny and entertaining, and in
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the process the messaging kind of gets a little lost,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: which is unfortunate because I think the book Animal Farm
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: is quite good, but the movie appears to be a
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: little it seems to fall a little short. But anyway,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: they they did a premiere on June ninth at the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: ANC International Animation Film Festival, So I don't know if
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: there's any specific plan for widespread distribution at this point.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I tried to look it up, but I couldn't find anything.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. The other thing that we have to talk about
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: in the maybe doesn't fit but totally does fit is
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that in every every aspect is that Robert Eggers might
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: be doing an adaptation of a Christmas Carol.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Wolf, you know, were Wolf without the extra e.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Or and the the oha is a u.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Oh is it? Yeah? I just saw I just saw
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: it as w E R W O l F. But uh,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, Uh, if I were to pick a
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: director to do a new adaptation of a Christmas Carol,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I sure would find the guy who did The Witch
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: and Nosferatu and wear Wolf and say, hey, how about
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you give it a shot?
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I mean it could be pretty creepy. It's originally a creepy.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Story, sure, I mean, you know, scary ghost stories like
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to tell him a Christmas according to the song.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: So of what not quite, but speculation has Willem Dafoe
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: as a contender for Ebenezer Scrooge, though no one has
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: actually said this. That's just that's just speculation based upon
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: the fact that Dafoe has worked with Eggers in the past.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Also, I think would make a good Scrooge.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Possibly, I'd like to see his take.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even if it's just an audition, because I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: also like I I could, I could picture him doing
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a good Scrooge. But also, I like casting news, and
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: this is not just a selfish thing. It is a
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: an exhaustion and media thing. I would like to see
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: new actors cast in some of these lead roles, but
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I get that they don't necessarily pull in as much
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: of a.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Crowd, So yeah, same. Like, the danger always is that
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: an actor is going to carry the baggage of their
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: past performances with them, or if they are, if they're
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: the kind of actor that people associate as being more
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: of a movie star and less of an actor, where
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: they're essentially playing themselves in whatever part they're in, or
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: or their range just doesn't seem to be that broad
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: like I think of I think of actors like Jack Nicholson,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: who has stepped outside of that quite a few times
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: but often falls into a pretty pretty uh narrow border
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: of a performance. Or Dennis Hopper is another one. I
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: would argue, like, you know, but they're that doesn't mean
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: that they're incapable of acting outside of that, just means
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: that they often get cast in the same type of
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: roles and you eventually just established, you establish a thought,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you you associate a specific kind of performance with that actor,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: and so when they get cast in something outside of that,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: you're like, well that doesn't make sense.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. That is all for our stuff
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that we put into stuff that doesn't fit just to
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: fill it out a bit.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean we could have I could have just
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: put them in our regular lineup, but it was to
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: me those were borderline. But to talk more about stuff
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: that it's actually in our lineup, first up, we do
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: want to talk about video games a little bit. So, yeah,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the switch too came out. Do you listen to the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Besties podcast, Aeriel?
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's got Griffin McElroy and Justin McElroy as
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: well as Russ Frushdick, and Christopher Thomas Plant as the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: four hosts. Plant wasn't in this one, but they talked
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: a bit about the switch To in their most recent episode,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: and I found myself agreeing with Justin quite a bit.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: His argument is that it's hard to find a justification
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: to purchase a switch To right now, simply because it's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: not different enough and doesn't have enough exclusive titles to
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: really make sense as a purchase.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I tend to agree with Justin a lot.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: He's got He seems to have a very good head
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: on his shoulders.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know the person, but yeah, but that was
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: one thing was switch To comes out, so that was
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: big news. But also we had the Summer Game Fest.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I'm trying to find all of the
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: list of the games that were released because I haven't
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: watched them all, but there are a whole bunch of stuff.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: There was like a new Resident Evil, which I've never
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: played any of the Resident Evil games, but the trailer
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: looked pretty good.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Resident Evil Requiem. It is the ninth title,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: like a ninth official installation in the series, and that
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: comes out February twenty seventh, twenty twenty six on Xbox,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: PS five and PC.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like Outer Worlds two, which is another
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: game that I've never played but looked pretty I'd like
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to do. There were two games that really stuck out
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: to me. Okay, maybe three. The Expanse RPG is.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Not one of the ones they announced, is it. I
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: didn't see it, but that doesn't mean anything.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, there's an Expanse RPG that looks very pretty. But
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the two that stood out to me just because they're
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: so bizarre. We're felt that Boxing, which is a boxing
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: game with puppets, but like not muppet puppets, more like
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Avenue Q level puppets. It seems like it just it
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: looks weird. And then the other was ledger Bound, which
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: is a two D art style, part turn based RPG,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: part maybe dating sim part doing taxes that just looked
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: so funny that I have to play this game.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I saw those, but I didn't. I didn't put those
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: on my list. The two that I have, one of
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: which is actually an existing game and it's just some
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: extra content that was already added, So now anyone, there
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: are a lot of people out there who have already
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: played through this, but I found it amusing, which is
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: that Hitman World of Assassination introduced a new elusive target. Now,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: if you're not familiar, Elusive targets are these characters that
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: pop up. Usually there's a limited timeframe when they're available,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: at least this is how it was initially, and you
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: only get one shot at taking them out, and if
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: you screw up, then you have to wait until it's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: offered again, although they have since had a paid subscription
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: type thing where you are allowed to try again if
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you want to, because people are getting so frustrated. So
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the most recent character to be added as an elusive
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: target is Mad's Michelson's character from Casino Royale, Lushifra. So
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: I think it takes place in the Paris level of
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: hit Man, where Lushifra is part of a high stakes
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: poker game and your job is to take him out.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: I have not played this. I do love the hit
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Man series I've got. I could play this if my
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: gaming computer still worked. But that's that's one of the
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: things I liked. And the other one, y'all because they
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: ain't nothing to f with the Wu Tang Oh, yes,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the Deceiver Wu Tang clan has a video game and
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I am here for it. It looks like a beat
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: him up Dark Soul's kind of game. Obviously. It has
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: a killer soundtrack again that's called Wu Tang Rise of
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the Deceiver. Not sure when that's coming out, but uh,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: when I saw that, I was like, well, this just
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: makes perfect sense.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not shade to any of the other
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: video game trailers that came out. Like I said, I'm
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: still working through them.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, Well we got tons of other
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: stuff to chat about. Uh. So I know you're all
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: out there saying, what if they made a zombie apocalypse
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: movie but it's cats.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: The world would be a much happier place.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: That's unless unless it was Andrew Lloyd Weber's Cats, in
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: which case will be even more terrifying.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Why would you say something like that? Uh? The reason,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: And I actually I know the reason because we've got
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: a trailer for an anime called nyat Night Night of
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: the Living Cat. It's the ny aight because.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's like meow, it's Night of the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Living kiet.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because nya is part like nyan is the Japanese
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: word for mew right yon like neon cat. Yeah, so
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: it's a play on that. Yeah, it's it's the world
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: is getting overrun by cats and if you turn in,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: if you would touch a cat, you turn into a cat.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: That's way more preferable to turning into a zombie, quite honestly,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: and probably less painful. I mean, I've never had been
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: bit by a zombie, but I have been scratched by
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: a cat, and it's not usually too too bad.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this looks hilarious. I mean, they are playing
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: on the tropes of zombie movies, and they're also playing
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: on like the fact that cats are cute and adorable
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: and they like to play with stuff. So, for example,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: in one point, a character is going to serve as
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: a distraction so that other people can get away, and
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: they draw it's almost like they have wolverine claws, except
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: instead of claws, it's essentially a cat toy. So they're
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: trying to distract the kiddy cats to make them chase
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: after the cat toy and leave the other people. Well,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: a loan's like get away, that's just a cute idea.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: They of course create a device that is able to
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: translate cats meowls into human language, where we learn that
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the cat will be back Allah on Old Schwarzenegger. I guess.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been trying to do that in real life too.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it looks extremely silly. It's coming to crunchy
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: roll on July sixth.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I will have to have somebody else watch it first,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: because if there's too many cats that get hurt, I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: won't be able to even though they're cartoons.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if we even see one cat getting punched or kicked,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I'm out really Oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, no, I
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: won't watch it. If there's any cats getting punched or kicked,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Like if they're getting shuffled off, that's fine, like you know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: like you're nudging a cat away, that's fine. But I
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: mean like punted or anything, I'm out.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Okay punted, No, punched or kicked. If there's a fight,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I'm okay, as long as they aren't hurt. I just
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: don't like seeing animals get hurt. Well, I don't know.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's very dependent, it's very dependent. The next thing
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: we have is we got a tiny little trailer because
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Disney has decided to do a dramatic filming of their
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: musical Frozen, and they are released like they did with
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: New Zy's and Hamilton, and they are will be ur
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: will be releasing it on Disney.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Plus on June twentieth, Art will be They Yeah, June twentieth,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: which is the day when we are heading up to
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: a cabin with some friends of ours to celebrate some
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: idiot's birthday, And so there's the possibility we could end
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: up watching a pro shot Broadway performance of the Frozen
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Stage musical. So this says the live action stage musical,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: and it includes like a dozen songs that were not
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: in the original animated movie, which I hope includes my
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: own person favorite song from Frozen Stage musical, Huga, Huga,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Huga Huga. It is first of all, it's ridiculous. Second
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: of all, it talks about nudity and alcohol, and you're like,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: this is a Disney show.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Is is that like the Swedish word for for like comfy?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, comfort like cozy? Is it? You get means comfortable?
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: You get means cozy.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like cisu means which is finish means
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: like Yeah.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: There's a there's a moment in it where they're literally
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: just saying the word huga over and over again, and
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: after like the third or fourth time, it's one of
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: those things where you've heard the word too many times
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: and it stops to like even seem like a word,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: And I love it. It makes me laugh every time.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Do they bring because I've never seen the Frozen musical
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: or listen to it? Do they break into huga chuka?
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: No, they do not. You don't get you don't get
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: hooked on a feeling, I will say so, whether you
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: like Frozen or not, you know whether whether you care
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: or don't care. For those of us out there who
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: are into like Broadway theater, I love seeing examples of
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: this because I want there to be more like official
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: pro shots of shows, because it's so hard to get
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: access to shows here in the United States. In particular,
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: it's very hard because if you want to go to
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: like the center of the theatrical universe here in the
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: United States, that means you have to travel to New York,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: and typically you have to spend a pretty hefty amount
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: of money in order to be able to see a show.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: And so like that means that access is obviously limited.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: You're limited by space and you're limited by money. So
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I love seeing pro shots that give more access to
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: theater so you can get a sense of what this
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: is like, I don't think it replaces the experience of going.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: But I also understand that in order to do this,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: you have to like establish the rights, you have to
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: figure out that everyone's getting paid equitably, you know, residuals
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: need to be factored into that sort of thing. Like
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of consideration that goes into this, so
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: it's not an easy task. And I see a lot
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: of Broadway fans like reduce this to why don't they
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: just do a pro shoot? I'm like, well, because if
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: you're an actor and you're in that show and your
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: your contract is all about, yes, I'm performing for people
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: who come to see it, and it's momentary and when
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: they leave, it's over. It doesn't live on after that.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: If you change that with you recording it and broadcasting it,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: then we got to talk about I got's to get paid.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. However, that being said, there are like pro shots
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that I am waiting to have happen. One we know
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: is happening.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: They too.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Hadestown and six are both doing like original cast pro shots.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know if we will.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Get that in the US. Right now, they're only UK release.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I do love the UK. Has you can watch, you
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: have to pay for it, but you can watch the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: entire entire like National Theater Catalog.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: You know, there are there are options to be able
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: to watch recorded Broadway shows legitimately, but it typically again
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: comes down to access, because it's usually that you have
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: to travel to New York and go to the library
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: that there's like a specific library that has a database
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: of all these recorded shows, like some with like original
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: casts and stuff, but that you know, that's the only
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: way you get access is if you have access to
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: that library, or that's not always possible. So again, stuff
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: like this I think is encouraging and I hope to
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: see more of it because like there's so many original
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: casts out there I would like to have seen in
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: a show, and you know, still seeing a show even
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: with a new cast, can be magical, but there's always
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: going to be that fear of missing out of like
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: the people who defined those characters for the first time.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I in similar news. I saw this like
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: earlier today before we started recording. They announced it like
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: twenty one hours ago on social media. Beetlejuice is coming
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: back to Broadway for thirteen weeks starting October eighth. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: haven't looked at the cast list yet, because I don't
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: know if it's up yet. I my hope is because
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I think originally they were hoping to do like a
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: pro shot of it, and then we like Beetlejuice was
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: going to get canceled and then got like crazy cult
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: popular reasonably. It's a very fun musical, it's very well done,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: and then they were going to do a pro shot
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: and then COVID and then they reopened, but they didn't
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: do a pro shot. So I'm hoping that they can
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: get the cast back to do a pro shot because
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: let me tell you, that Broadway experience with the original
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: cast of that show is well worth it.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Well. Moving on, We've got an animated film that I
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: don't think I had heard about, but we saw a
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: preview for it. It's called In Your Dreams. This one's
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: coming to Netflix, and it tells the story of I'm guessing.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Their brother and sister with an older sister and a
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: younger brother, and the younger brother is obsessed with dreams.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: He's kind of like annoying younger brother character, and the
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: sister is kind of like the disaffected, like you're so
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: embarrassing your cringe kind of character and then they get
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: sucked into the dream world and Shenanigan's en sue, Yeah.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: It the Sandman takes the form of like a little
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: stuffed draft kind of a character.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: A spoiler, we don't know the trailer, we don't know
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: that that's the sand Man. We know that that is
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: his his long lost stuffed animal, and it probably is
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: going to turn out to be the Sandman, but I
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: don't think that he.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, little boy first.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Thinks it's the Sandman, then the then the stuffed animal
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: appears and goes, oh, you're so and so my beloved
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: lost stuffed animal.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Thank you for actually me. You are correct. I don't
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: know that it's a Sandman.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: That's just but it probably is.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: What the dream said. Uh, it looks cute. It kind
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: of reminded me of Nemo or Slumberland or one of
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: those kind of stories.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: It kind of reminded me of Inside Out a little bit.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do. Like they end the trailer on
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: a relatable but uh relatable for adults and children joke
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: that I absolutely loved.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the classic naked you're naked in public
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: nightmare or stress dream if you prefer if you don't
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: think nightmare is quite the right word. But the characters
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: find themselves naked, and the sister is horrified, and meanwhile
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: the little brother doesn't understand what the big deal is.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the stuffed animal, of course, being a stuffed animals,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Like this is great.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I laughed when I saw it, Like I thought,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: this felt like a Pixar film, but with a little
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: more edge to it, like slightly edgier than what you
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: typically get with Pixar. It comes out on November fourteenth,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: and again that's going to be on Netflix, so I
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: definitely want to check this out. Like it strikes me
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: as a fun story.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same here the next thing, which I thought the
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: first trailer made it look pretty fun, but the second trailer,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like it feels like it's
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: addressing some public perception stuff. We got a second trailer
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: for Ironheart, and this one makes the character seem a
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: little bit more heroic and positively motivated.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I guess I have the exact same thing written in
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: my notes, like I'll read you what I wrote casts
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: reread in a more heroic light, less emphasis on making
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: compromises in order to achieve her vision. Slash being too ambitious.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: So the first trailer made it seem like she was
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: she was so so focused, so consumed with being recognized
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: for her genius and her achievement, that she makes some
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: bad choices and then the rest of the show is
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: her dealing with those consequences. This one makes her seem
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: like she's much more noble in her pursuit, and that
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: she may still make bad decisions in that pursuit, but
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: that her, as you say, her motivations are more pure
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: and And it's interesting because I think if I watch
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: these two trailers back to back, I would think it
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: would almost feel like reshoots, right, Like, like you sit
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: there and wonder like, are both of these trailers representative
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: of what actually happens in the series, and it's just
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: their cherry picking the moments to kind of tell the
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: story they want to tell. Or is it a case
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: where they're like, let's re edit this real quick and
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: make her less of sort of a tragic hero figure
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: in the first bit. We'll find out on June twenty fourth,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: that's when this series comes out on Disney Plus. And
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I have to say, like Ironheart was one of those
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: series that I was anticipating quite a bit like two
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: years ago, but over the time that has passed, I
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: have become less enthusiastic about it. I'm hopeful that I'll
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: will still really enjoy it, but I know my expectations
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: are lower.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: That isn't their fault, though, because we had to deal
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of st and things like that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: So mm hmm, that's true. And then there was the
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: whole Kang thing, Like there was a lot going on.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: There was the reassessment from Kevin Figi and other executives
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: about the performance of and critical reception of more recent
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Marvel offerings, Like there were a lot of things that
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: probably contributed to the long delay for this series to
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: come out.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, much like with video games, I take
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: the time you need to tell the story you want
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: to tell and make it good, because then I will
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: be more like when they reassessed and they're like, we
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: need to be a little bit more creative and we
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: need to take more time and make sure that we're
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: giving decent offerings each time. That excited me. I do
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: feel like Thunderbolts and Captain America were slightly better than
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: some of the Thunderbolts was better Captain and America. The
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Red Hulk was slightly better than some of the Marvel
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: stuff that came recently before it. But I'm hoping that
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: this is a turn to make me excited again, because
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I do like superhero movies. I like watching them. I'd
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: love to be in one.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Captain America. The fact that Captain America
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: was referencing the Incredible Hulk and the Eternals to films
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: that are widely considered to be toward the bottom of
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: the MCU output was an issue from the get go.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but you know, Marvel's not the only one
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: who's had some critical reception. DC has two and a
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: lot of people are hesitant about the new Superman movie.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I was hesitant to put in the new trailer there's
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: a tickets Available now trailer that they released for Superman.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: But then I watched it and I found it delightful.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: And it stresses the fact that it'll be available on
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: imat as well. Uh yeah, this one has Superman fighting
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: a lot, pretty much everybody. Superman fights everybody. He doesn't
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: fight Lewis Lane, but pretty much everybody else. I mean,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: maybe I just haven't seen it.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: They might play chess or something. You know.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's like a bit where there's a face
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: off down with Guy Gardner, Nathan Fillian's Guy Gardner. There's
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of Lex Luthor being an absolute psychopath. Trailer
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I was already into like Nicholas Holt being Lex Luthor,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: but now I'm one hundred percent sold on it.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: There's one moment and it's not just in this trailer,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: They've shown it in other trailer's too, But there's one
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: moment where I'm like, that's too much, which is just
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: that he's walking through the Fortress of Solitude and meanwhile
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: his hinchwoman is cutting robots in half with her hands
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: and and like some robot parts go flying right past
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: his face. And it's and he's doing the cool walking
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: towards something while not paying any attention to anything else
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: that's going on around him. And I'm like, so, so
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: you're protected by narrative because physics don't matter while everything's
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: blowing up, and you're just like, I don't care that
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: everything's blowing up, nothing's gonna touch me. I'm just gonna
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: keep walking towards this thing.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I actually have two questions for you, because I like Superman,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: but I'm not deep into the lore or the lore
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: that I have been deep into. I've forgotten one who
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: is this henchwoman because she looks like mistiques me.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, clearly can't be Mistique because Marvel versus DC.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: But I don't know who that's supposed to be. But
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: that I'm also I'm more of a Marvel fan. It's
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: weird because I collected more DC comic books for quite
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: some time, but I'm more of a Marvel fan than
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: a DC fan. So my knowledge of Superman lore is patchy.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Like there's certain parts of Superman lawy I know a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: lot about, and then there are other like entire stretches
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: where I'm like, wait, what happened? So I can't answer
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: your question.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: The second question is something Tony and I actually had
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a friendly disagreement about. I was
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: about to say a fight about, but no, it was
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: a friendly disagreement, which is he feels like in the trailer,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: having the robots is a callback to the Kevin Smith
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: film where they wanted to put in a whole bunch
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: of weird stuff, like the Kevin Smith's Superman film that
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: got canned that was supposed to have Nicholas Cage in it.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Well, how I was supposed to have a giant spider.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: It was supposed to have a giant spider, it was
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: supposed to have robots in the Fortress of Solitude. And
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Tony's like, why can't they just let Superman have Solitude
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: in the Fortress of Solitude. But I feel like, and
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: not just in Man of Steel, because there was at
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: least a little AI robot that went around in the
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: spaceship or the Fortress of Solitude or something for him there.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen robots in the Fortress of
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Solitude and other stuff. Is that just me?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: I seem to recall it too, But at this point
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you for sure if it's the Mandela effect.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Gotcha? Gotcha?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: You know, like I want to say, I want to say, oh, sure,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: there's some versions where there are robots in the Fortress
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: of Solitude, But I honestly, I can't trust my own
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: you know me, I can't trust my brain on a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: good day.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I do know that he's always been able to talk
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: to his dad in the Fortress of Solitude. But listeners,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: if you're more Superman fans, reach out and let us know,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: because I am curious, but I'm also lazy.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we got we got a few more stories
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: we want to get through before we wrap up. Quite
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: a few actually, So next up is a trailer that
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: Ariel found, and it was funny because she listed it
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: on our lineup and said that she was not really
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: planning on watching this trailer because it's for a horror
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: movie and it's titled Forgive Us All. And I told
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Ariel earlier today that in my opinion, she is totally
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: capable of seeing this trailer. So my question to you,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Ariel is did you watch it?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: I did watch it. So the reason it's a post
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: apocalyptic trailer where people kind of turn cannibalistic and into monsters,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: and there's this woman who basically survives in a valley
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: and then a stranger comes to deliver her good news.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: So it feels like Jonathan said, it felt like Last
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: of Us and I feel like it's a mix between
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: that and Z for Zachariah, which is a story about
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: nuclear fallout where a girl lives in a valley with
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: her family and they're protected from the fallout because they
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: live in this valley, and then her family go to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: leave to find other people, and she's just left with
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: her dog and her family never comes back. And then
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: a stranger comes in and then he's real nice to
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: her at first, but then he tries to assault her basically,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: and she leaves with her dog, and then the dog
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: dies and that's where the story ends. Wow, yeah, it's
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: They made a movie about it with Chris Pine recently
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: made a little bit more of a love Triangle, which
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: was weird. But I didn't watch it because I had
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: to read this book in middle school and I hated it.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: And I still hate that story, not just because the
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: dog dies, but because.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: It's just so It's.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: One of those stories that leaves me with no hope,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: right despite the fact that the stranger did come from
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: outside but he had radiation poisoning, she nursed him back
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: to health, and then when he was healthy, he tried
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: to sexually it sault her. But this reminded me of that,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: just from the log line of like a stranger coming
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: in to deliver news. I didn't want to watch it
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: because the log line talked about cannibalistic stuff and at
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the trailer there is a guy chopping
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: some sort of mystery meat it's probably a rabbit, but
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Well, mostly I don't think. First of all, I don't
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: think the humans are eating humans. I think the ones
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: who have been corrupted into these zombie like creatures. And
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons I said it reminds me of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: the Last of Us is they make this clicking noise
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: that's very much like the clickers in Last of Us.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, So my note says, what if the Last
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: of Us but kind of a modern West.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be the kind of the theme for the
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: next story too. What if this but a modern West,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: but a Western?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So this one, there's there's a father and father
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: in law and his daughter in law living in a house.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: His son has been lost, as has the daughter in
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: law's daughter, so his grandchild has also been lost, isn't
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: there They're either dead or monsters or whatever. And then
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: this stranger shows up and he's wounded. And then some
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: other folks show up and they're looking for the stranger,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: and she finds that from what I can tell, the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: stranger has a child who also has become infected, and
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: the reason he was being pursued is he broke into
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: a facility to steal a cure that could work as
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: long as it's delivered within seventy two hours of infection,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: and so that he decides he wants to you know,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: he's going to risk everything for his child. And she
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: decides to help him because she feels this is a
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: way where she can sort of help, she can provide
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: the help she could not provide her daughter, right, And
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: she's like, if we don't do this, then why are
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: we even here for, Like, why are we here if
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: it's not to try and help people in need? And
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: so that's what it looks like to me. Again, this
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: is based off the trailer. I haven't read into the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: story at all. It comes to digital platforms on July eleventh,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I thought, I thought it looked like it was playing
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: in some pretty familiar tropes that we have seen multiple
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: times over the years. But it looks like it's doing
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: it well. So it looks really familiar in some ways,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: but it looks like it's doing a good job. So
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: if you're looking for something totally new, this might not
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: scratch that itch. But if you're looking for something that
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: appears to have been done with you know, artistic integrity.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: At least the trailer gave me that vibe.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if you want more scary in a Western setting.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: We also have a trailer for Abraham's Boys, a Dracula
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: story which is Dracula in the West. It's written by
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Joe Hill, who is Stephen king Kings, who also wrote
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Lock and Key, which I do like Lock and Key
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: So he also did the Doctor Strange or not Doctor Strange,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Doctor Sleep, sorry, Doctor Sleep, that's which was the sequel
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: to The Shining So so he wrote a sequel to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: his own dad's book.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that he was the one who wrote that.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I never watched Doctor Sleep, so.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a novel first, and then you had
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: the Ewan McGregor movie. But uh, yeah, it's it's it's
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's a good horror movie. I think Mike
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Flanagan did that one.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Interesting. He also did U Noss for A two, which
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: is the NS number four Letter A Number two, which
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: got turned into a TV show for a while.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: NOS for a two, yeah, like.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: And then Heart Shaped Box Horns, which was.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know, was that the Daniel Radcliffe one.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So a bunch of stuff, most of which I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: haven't done, you know, I'm not a huge horror person.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: But I really did like Lock and Key, I do
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: like Dracula, and I like the West. I'm iffy on
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: this trailer. It looks almost a little boring.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it looks so it looks like the Van Helsings,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: after the the wackiness that was the Dracula story, had
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: made their way to America nineteen fifteen. Like, I can't
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: remember what year Dracula is supposed to take place in,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: but to me, nineteen fifteen is late enough. Where is
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: this supposed to be Van Helsing's sons family, because he
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: would have been pretty old by the time you get
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: around the nineteen fifteen But I honestly can't remember what
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: year Dracula's supposed to take place in, so I might
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: just have my years off. But yeah, it's it's his
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: family's got two young boys a much younger wife.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Around eighteen ninety to eighteen ninety two.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so you're talking about twenty five years later,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: like and Van Helsing is already you know, I mean,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe you could argue he's supposed to be forty
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: but still pretty pretty old getting over there. Anyway, He's
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: he's telling them that, you know, the wife is feeling unsettled,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: and so he's interpreting that as Dracula's on his way.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: So they're like preparing the house to try and repel
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Dracula in case Dracula shows up. So obviously Dracula somehow
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: has survived the story of Dracula, where in the original
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: novel spoiler, he totally doesn't. And then there's like some
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: questions about even Van Helsing's potential sanity. Like there's some
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: little elements toward the end of the trailer the hint
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: at maybe this is that the fact that you know,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: these two boys have two crazy pants people as parents
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: comes out July eleventh. I'm not totally sold on this either,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Like I like I like Joe Hill, I like Joe
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Hill's stuff, but this did not This did not like
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: give me a lot of confidence.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: If you had told me conceptually about this first, I'd
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I'm in. But the trailer didn't quite
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: sell me.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: And it could just be that it's not a very
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: good trailer. It could be that the movie is fantastic.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. If I was still playing Calamity,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: maybe I'd be like, I have to watch this because
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: I'm doing a wild West Monster Hunter thing.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm not.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Anymore because it's over. The next trailer we have is
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: for a movie that I thought existed, and so I
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: didn't watch it until today because there is already a
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: movie called Brickout. It's a noir about high schoolers selling cocaine.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different brick that came out in like
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: two thousand and five, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, so
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: this is one that came out. It's coming out this
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: year on July tenth on Netflix. It's a German movie.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: So if you watch the trailer and you think how
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: weird their mouths are not moving with the same motions
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: that these words are, it's because it was originally in German,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Gotcha, I didn't catch the WDWT.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The basic premise here is that people inside an
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: apartment building wake up to find that they have been
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: bricked in to their apartments, Like they opened the door
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: to their apartment to lead out to the hallway, and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: there's these mysterious black bricks there, same with the windows,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: and these bricks appear to be impenetrable and sometimes display
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: magnetic properties, and ultimately they find the only thing they
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: can really do is break holes between walls so that
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: they can you know, congregate, at least if we're on
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: the same side of the building. I imagine if they're
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: on the opposite side of the building, there's no way
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: to get to them. But they all get together in
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: an attempt to figure out what's going on and how
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: they can get out. And this one comes out July
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: tenth on Netflix. So what did you think? What did
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: you think when you watched the trailer?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I thought it looked interesting, a little bit more like
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: adventure mystery and less horror, which I liked.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I felt like this. This felt like it
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: could have been a milder episode of Black Mirror. Yeah,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: more like a Twilight Zone episode. Honestly, if I get bored,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: I might watch it high praise indeed, No, I mean
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: it looks fine. I just there's a lot of stuff
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: on the list, you know, it's totally totally legit. I
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: can feel that, Like, I'm certainly curious, and I might
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: give it a try. It might be one of those
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: that I'll dedicate like twenty minutes too, and if I'm
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: not feeling it, I'll hit e ject. But I mean
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: complicating things is that the trailer at least establishes one
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: of the folks or two of the people that you're
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: following is it's a couple that's having a breakup, and
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: that that's when you discover that everything's been bricked in.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: Is that the woman wants to leave, and so she
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: goes and opens the door and suddenly she can't leave.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: And I thought at first it was going to be
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: kind of like, I thought it was going to be
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: like that Alison Brief Franco movie Together or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be like, oh, here's
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: a heavy handed metaphor to talk about being trapped in
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: a relationship. But then as the trailer went on, it no, oh, no,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: it's more complicated than that.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: It is more complicated than that. Speaking of more complicated,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: if you wanted something more complicated then Carrie, but less
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: cheesy than New Mutants, there's a new TV show for you.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: It's called The Institute and it's based off of Stephen
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: King novel. Yeah. I said that it feels like like
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: X Men mixed with Stranger Things.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it's it's these kids have these powers
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: and kind of get in their sleep transported to the Institute.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: The trailer, the the person who runs the institute, this
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: building with all of these kids with these powers in
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: it seems to portray it as their parents know they're there,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: and their parents are fine, and these kids have been
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: put there for their safety and training. We don't know
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: if that's true or not. I don't know if that's
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: true or not because I haven't read it. But it's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: also kind of like the New Mutants movie, which I
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: know not a lot of people watched one of those
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: situations where they're experimented on and kids die. It looks
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: like possibly.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Because it's dangerous, yeah, Like like this institute is somehow
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: trying to harness the powers that these kids have, or
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: maybe even try to find a way to duplicate that.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: You know. It kind of gives you the vibes of
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: government discovers potential in these and then wants to exploit
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: that potential. So the leader of the institute is played
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: by Mary Louise Parker. She looks very convincing as a
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: like like no nonsense, like sorry, this is how it is,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Like I know you don't don't like it, but it
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter. Here you are. And then the main character
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: is a teenager boy named Luke. But yeah, as Ariel says,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: like he encounters other teens who have also been transported
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: to this place. I'm left wondering, since it is a
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Stephen King story, if this is supposed to be set
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: in the same Stephen King universe as Firestarter, which was
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: about a young girl who displays pyrokinetic abilities, and because
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: it kind of feels like it feels a lot like
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: that to me, except you know, more advanced and further
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: along on the timeline.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Well, didn't Carrie also have some kind of psychic.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Yes, Carrie does too. Carrie has telepathic capabilities, telekinetic capabilities.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: That's what That's what I really meant.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so I wonder if it's because Stephen King
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: likes to connect his stories, it would very true.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ultimately it would all all connect to the Dark Tower.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's like the central point I hate.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: I really like the first four books in that series.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: I did hear like I hadn't read it. Our mutual
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: friend Jen tried to read the book, got to the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: part where the main character piece On Corn looked at
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: her friends and said, is this a pan On Corn book?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: They said yes, and she closed it and never picked
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: It's not a peing on corn book. It does happen,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: but it's because it's because water is so is so
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: rare that the idea of dedicating your moisture to someone
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: else's sustenance is a show of res I get.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: It, and she gets it too, But it's just it's
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: a funny anecdote. But but yeah, I haven't read a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: lot of The Dark Tower, which is why I wasn't
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: as offended by the movie that came out with Addris
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Elba several years ago. But I do hear it went
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: off the rails.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I liked it. I liked it all the
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: way up through the fourth book, and then once you
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: get there's seven total, and once you get to book five,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: I noped out, Like I read book five and then
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: I said, I don't care where the story goes now
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: because it took such a turn now. To be fair,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: there was also a period of time in there where
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Stephen King got hit by a truck, so you know
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: he was badly injured and recovering, and that I'm sure
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: I had an effect on his writing anyway. This one
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: comes out July thirteenth on MGM plus other thing I
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: learned while I was looking into this is that the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: first episode was screened at south By Southwest on June fifth,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: and that confused me because south By Southwest, as I know,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: it is this big festival that happens in Austin, Texas
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: in March. And that's when I found out that this
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: year was the first year for south By Southwest London.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: And then I had to wrestle my brain back into
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: my skull because it was rejecting the idea that you
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: could have a south By Southwest festival in London.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Every country has a southwestern portion, Jonathan.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not the same. There're no cowboys running
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: around London.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: I mean you don't know that.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Well, every time every time I've been to London, I've
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: seen a distinct lack of cowboys.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: Get on that London. Next, we have trailers for some
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: season three stuff, Just a couple of things. The first
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: is Strange New Worlds, which is the Star Trek Enterprise
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: prequel with Captain Pike and a young like capt'n Kirk.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: It looks delightful as all Patton Oswald apparently is in
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: this season and I am afore that.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the one thing I wrote down was that,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: so I haven't been watching Strange New Worlds. I haven't
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: watched any New Trek stuff since Star Trek Into Darkness.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: That was the last Trek property that I've watched, because
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: I could feel it moving in a direction where I
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: was like, this is no longer the Trek that I love.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: And that's okay. Other people love it, that's okay, but
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: I can tell this isn't going to be the thing
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: that I associate with Star Trek, the thing that makes
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: me love Star Trek. So I'm just gonna I'm just
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: gonna get out of the bus or the starship and
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: just enjoy the stuff that I already like. And so
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched Discovery. I haven't watched any you know,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: below decks. I haven't watched any of that stuff. So
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: I watched this trailer and I was like, I don't
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: know what's going on, is what I wrote. But then
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: I said, seeing Paton Oswald as a Vulcan makes it
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: all worthwhile.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, So I did watch Star Trek Discovery. I
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: loved the end of it. I felt the first few
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: seasons were a little belabored. I do see I have
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: several several people I know who have said that, like
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Star Trek, Discovery didn't just let you feel the way
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: you felt about the storyline. It tried to like lecture
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: you into the feelings that they wanted you to have.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: And Star Trek has always been aspirational and this has
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: always made points right, or at least tried to be,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: not always successfully, but it has canonically tried to be.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I do agree that Discovery could be a little bit
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: heavy handed it sometimes, but I still really enjoyed it.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like Strange New Worlds is not heavy handed.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I feel like it is just effortly aspirational but still has,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: you know, moments of hard and scary, because every Star
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Trek does. I really like it. It's the closest thing to
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: the Old School that I feel I have.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing I loved about Old School's Star Trek
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: is that, like, confrontation was always a last resort, right,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Like that was never that was never a go to.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: So the moments where things are firing phasers at each
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: other are relatively few and far between, because really the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: challenge was how can we understand what is happening and
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: navigate the situation in a way where no one ends
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: up getting you know, treated poorly because you know, one
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: side didn't understand the other or whatever, and so there
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: was a lot more like negotiation and investigation and that
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: kind of thing. And I always appreciated that because, again,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: it was a very optimistic view of the future, right,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: this idea that humans had somehow reached a point where
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: mindless aggression wasn't the go to response. And the issue
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: I have with a lot of later Star Trek is
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: that aggression seems to be on the table way earlier
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: than it would be in previous versions of Trek. But
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched Strange New world so I don't know
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: if that's an exception. I just know that, like the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: first season of Picard, I was like, oh no, based
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: on what I was saying, that this doesn't look like
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: this is my Trek at all.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: No, Picard is not your Trek at all, not at all.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Just the later seasons of Discovery might be for you,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: but it would be hard to get there because you'd
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: have to get through the first few or they're dealing
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: with the Klingons, which was very you know, Klingons are warlike, warlike.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I would say Strange New Worlds, I know you were
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: worried about it being a little too goofy at points,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: but you did like Orville.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Right, the bits I've seen. I've never actually watched Orville
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: as I like, a I don't think I've ever seen
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: a full episode, but the bits I have seen I
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: did like. Now, granted, it may be that that's because
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: it was a little bit out of context and didn't
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: it have enough Seth MacFarlane to make me want to
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: claw my eyes out?
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: So the first season starts off kind of heavy Seth
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Farlindy and then just becomes a really good Star Trek
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: show because that's really what he wanted to.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: Do, right, he wanted to make an like Next Generation.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it does. I mean it still has
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: some Seth MacFarland in there, but overall it's really good,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: very moving episodes, some really really good stuff in there.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Strange New Worlds, I feel is the same way. There
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: is some goofy in there, and I know, like, I
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: don't know if it was you or Tony when they
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: dropped a clip of some of the crew of Strange
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: New Worlds turning into vulcans and like, that's not how
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: vulcans work. Yeah, Like I get that, but I feel
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: like it does a really good job of being fun
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: and adventurous. There is, you know, there is some action,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: and there is some goofy, but I feel like for
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: the most part, it balances it well. I am not
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: as much of a fan of the musical episode as
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: some other people, although there were a couple good bangers
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: in there, but overall I have quite enjoyed it.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: It comes out July seventeenth, which tells me that the
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: week of July tenth through seventeenth is going to be crazy,
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: because like about sixty percent of what we've talked about
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: is coming out that week. Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: I had a friend recently who just took all of
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: the geeky things coming out and put down a list
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: of release dates for all of them. I'm like, thank
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: you for doing that work, so I don't have to Well.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, that week in July, So the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Institute comes out that week, Brick comes out that week,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: Abraham's Boys comes out that week, Forgive Us All comes
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: out that week. Like a lot of stuff is coming
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: out in that stretch. And the next thing we're talking
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: about also debuts that week.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Which is season three of Foundation, which is a television
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: show based off of an Isaac Asimov's story series that
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: both this se I feel like both the series and
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: the show have gotten wildly drastically different reviews. Like I
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: have some friends who love the books. I have some
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: friends who are like, if you're going to skip anything
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: of Asimov, make it the Foundation Series. I have friends
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: feel the same way about the show.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: The Foundation Series is interesting because as I understand it,
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: and to be clear, I have not read it, so
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: I could be completely in the wrong about this, But
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: this is my recollection. It's a series of stories that
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: also spans a huge amount of time, so like earlier
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: parts of the story involve characters who are not going
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: to appear later on because generations have passed since that
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: part of the story in the next part. So it
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: makes me wonder, like, I haven't been watching the series
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: and I haven't read the books, so I don't know
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: if the series is focusing on like a very concentrated
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: part of the Foundation story, or if it is trying
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: to encompass the entirety of the Foundation Story, in which
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: case you'd be like, well, you'd have to recast that
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: series every season because you'd be jumping so far ahead,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: the characters that are your primary characters in season one
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: would all be long dead by season two. Yeah, but
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: I haven't been watching, so I don't know. I do
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: know that the guy who appears to be the antagonist,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: based on this trailer, because again I don't know what's
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: going on, he seems very compelling, like he's he's playing
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: a character who has psychic abilities and can dominate the
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: will of people that he encounters, like he can make
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: them think and feel things very remick from Sinners in
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: that way. Yeah.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: That that actor is Jared Harris, who has done a
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff, including like Sherlock Holmes.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's great at this, Like I mean, he
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't it's not like he's doing a ton, but what
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: he does I thought, I was like, well, if you
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: needed to find someone who could play an intimidating villain,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: this guy is a good choice.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's also done Resident Evil, the Expanse Carnival Row,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: but a bunch of stuff, and it still has Lee
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Pace in it. So and Leslie Pace is playing his
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: own grandpa. They're probably still in the same life span of.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: A person grandson really, but well yeah, yeah, so this
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: comes out to his own Grandpa comes out to eleven
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: on Apple TV Plus. So yeah, I feel like I
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: just totally slept on this because I haven't been watching
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: the series. I haven't read the books. I really should.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: I just actually I've read so little of Isaac Asimov's
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: work it's kind of embarrassing. But yeah, I feel like
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: this is one that maybe I should pay more attention to,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: at the very least because it's on Apple TV Plus,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: which does not guarantee quality. But they've they've been pretty
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: good with the stuff I've watched.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at least two of my favorite shows are from there,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: which is Murder Button Severance.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: I do like ted Lassoto too. I very much like it.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: I'm very much enjoying it. I'm almost done with the
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: third season, but I wouldn't say it's my favorite show
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: because after that or along with that, comes to the
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: HBO Watchman series. Yeah, Like I said, I've got friends,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: some friends who love the Foundation series and some friends
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: who hate it. As far as like the TV show,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: it's one I think that I will give a try too,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: though I may have to try it without my husband
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: because he's not super interested in it. But yeah, that's
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: that's all we have for this week. And Jonathan, it's
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: been a long episode. So do you want to tell
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: people how to contact us? Sure?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to get in touch with me,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: what you'll have to do is on July tenth, you'll
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: have to set out in search of me. And I'm
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: just going to tell you it's going to take you
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: from July tenth to July eighteenth to track me down.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: And the reason I'm telling you that is you're going
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: to know that while you're in the middle of tracking
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: me down. And by the way, this is like a
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: twenty four to seven thing. This is like you have
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: time to get some sleep, but that's it. You cannot
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: be distracting yourself or whatever you are in pursuit to
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: try and track me down. It means you're doing this
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: knowing that all of the geeky things we're talking about
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: are now out and in the world and you are
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: not currently experiencing them because you have to ask me
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: your question. And if after those days when you've been
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: trying to find me and sacrificing the fact that you
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: have not seen any of these and you know your
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: friends are all watching it, and you know you can't
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: even go on social media, because if you do, you're
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: just going to be inundated by spoilers. Then and only
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: then will you track me down and you can ask
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: me your question, And chances are I'll just say like,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, no that you totally find that out if
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: you just watched that thing that came out like seven
• 1:29:41
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• 1:29:44
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• 1:29:45
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• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: Wow, you are falling apart with this?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Fine?
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: Uh fine, fine, I'll tell them how they can actually
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: get in touch with us. Discord. The way to get
• 1:30:14
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• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: checks it.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: I mean I check Instagram and Threads and Facebook. I
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: am on Discord daily though on let me log out,
• 1:30:28
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• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: are too many of them, and.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: I don't This is why, this is why I abandoned
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: them all. I mean, like, I totally agree with you.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: In fact, I would I would suggest that we Sunset
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: Blues guides and direct more people to either emailed or discord.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Cool, Jonathan, you're the smart one. Yeah. You can also
• 1:31:01
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• 1:31:07
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• 1:31:10
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• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: the last episode. Yes, so my goal has been and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: I'm still working towards it. I'm just gotta read ju
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: My schedule a little bit is to get our notes
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  Speaker 1: up on the website right before we record, so then
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: because sometimes we add things kind of last minute, so
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: if as I'm about to go in, I can put
• 1:31:36
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• 1:31:39
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• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: is it is updated as of last week, so yay.
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  Speaker 2: Better.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: We may not be recorded. I don't think we'll be
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: recording next week. Next Friday up.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: To the mountains of Georgia to celebrate.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Some idiots birthdays, some amazing, wonderful person's birthday, but we
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: will be back the week after that. Yeah, if you've
• 1:32:09
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