Latest / Financial Survival Network / The Bittersweet Truth: Chocolate Prices on the Rise Due to Climate Change - Carl Gould #6032
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- 0:00If you think about the average consumer of chocolate, you know, when you
- 0:04buy chocolate, what are you buying it for? And it's usually fools in
- 0:08two major categories. One is for personal consumption and two is for gifting.
- 0:12And so if you're buying it for your own personal consumption, you're likely to
- 0:16going to continue to buy the things that you enjoy, that you like because
- 0:20you're buying it for your own personal use. You're listening to Carrie Lutz's Financial
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- 0:52the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Well, why
- 0:57is the price of chocolate so damn high? Is it all Trump's fault?
- 1:00Is it the government's fault? Who is behind this? Our good friend Carl
- 1:06Gould is with us now. You find it at carlgould dot com. Link
- 1:10is in the show notes. Questions comments, just shoot me an email k
- 1:14l at Kerry LEDs dot Comcarl, welcome back. So the price of chocolate,
- 1:19Man, if you're a chocoholic like me, you noticed it keeps going
- 1:23up, up, up and away. Well, and if you're looking for
- 1:26somebody to blame, you can blame that El Nino weather pattern which is putting
- 1:33a strain on agriculture in West Africa, specifically the production of cocoa, which
- 1:38is a main commodity and ingredient in the finished chocolate product. So a climate
- 1:45change, or call it weather patterns or cyclical weather patterns or putting a real
- 1:49strain on farmer's ability to manufacture and harvest coco. All right, So wherever
- 1:57the climate change is coming from, that's irrelevant. We know it's here and
- 2:00it's having an effect. But Carl, you know the best cure. You
- 2:06know what The best cure for high prices is high prices. Yeah, it's
- 2:12just like the best cure for low prices, low prices. So demand is
- 2:16going to be cut down. You know, you get the candy bars that
- 2:20you and I had as a kid, and they have very little chocolate left
- 2:24in them. I'm talking like the baby Ruth bars, the butterfinger, the
- 2:29raisinets, and they used to have real chocolate. Now it's got just some
- 2:32kind of pob up butter or some garbage like that. But it really Hey,
- 2:38if they want to cut back on chocolate consumption, keep lowering the quality
- 2:43and that'll work, wonders Right. Well, yeah, I mean if you
- 2:46think about the average consumer of chocolate, you know, when you buy chocolate,
- 2:51what are you buying it for? And it's fools in two major categories.
- 2:55One is for personal consumption and two is for gifting. And so if
- 3:00you're buying it for your own personal consumption, you're likely to going to continue
- 3:04to buy the things that you enjoy and that you like because you're buying it
- 3:07for your own personal use. But how many how often do you buy chocolate
- 3:10and then it goes into the candy bowl on the counter, or you give
- 3:15it as a gift to somebody else. When it comes to that, you're
- 3:17going to start to see, you know, people not buying name brand,
- 3:21buying the store bought brand, and buying in bulk. Absolutely, absolutely,
- 3:25yeah. So the what economic economists call the law of substitution. When steak
- 3:31gets too high, substitute chicken. When chicken gets too high, you substitute
- 3:38spam and then when that gets too high, I guess you use ketchup and
- 3:43make tomato soup. Right, It's something like that pretty much. But you're
- 3:46because you're when you have a product like this, and it's a discretionary purchase
- 3:53in almost all cases for me. When not, but that's distractionary for me.
- 3:58I'm addicted to the stuff. It is an absolute staple in your diet
- 4:02and it's a required purchase. Well, you're gonna have to be very careful
- 4:06another Well, there you go, right, So for you not an option.
- 4:13Right, So chocolate companies ought to be talking to you directly because that's
- 4:15where it's at. And and so yeah, you know you're going you're going
- 4:19to see continued prices being reasonably high, especially in the States, because there
- 4:27are policies in place now that require chocolate United States chocolate manufacturers to use US
- 4:32sourced ingredients, you know, some sugars and some other ingredients. And so
- 4:39because it is it is more expensive to produce that here in the States,
- 4:43the cost of chocolate is always going to be a little higher here in the
- 4:46US. So if you're buying and it's a little bit more expensive, you
- 4:50at least know that you're supporting an American business. Yea, involuntarily so,
- 4:56but not correct. But what is it that maybe you know, a nickel
- 5:00to the cost of the candy gore? Well, it could be. It'll
- 5:04vary depending on the size and weight of each one. But yeah, and
- 5:09is it enough that it's going to make you stop making the purchase? I
- 5:13don't think so. You know, when you know we've all done this when
- 5:15we want a piece of chocolate, we are getting a piece of chocolate.
- 5:18I'm not so sure we're looking at the price all that much. And if
- 5:21something is two ninety nine instead of two seventy nine, I think we're still
- 5:25buying it, you know. Interestingly enough, I'm doing my Internet search,
- 5:30which I should have done before. Chocolate is a highly regulated substance. Different
- 5:35to countries require different amounts, Like in the US, for something to be
- 5:41labeled as chocolate, it must have a minimum of ten percent cocoa in it.
- 5:46But in Canada it's twenty five percent for milk chocolate, and in Europe
- 5:51it's thirty five percent, So you're always better off getting the European chocolate anyway,
- 5:58You know, you when you now you have a new reason to go
- 6:00through those duty free shops and when you're in the airport, you go grab
- 6:03that NOI House chocolate, so the Godiva or one of the other you know,
- 6:08brands that you'll be able to buy at the airport, and yeah,
- 6:12load up because it'll be a lot more coco in it. So what's really
- 6:15funny is they now regulate white chocolate starting in two thousand and two, and
- 6:20it has to have it's not really chocolate, white chocolate, but it has
- 6:26cocoa butter, and in the US got to have twenty percent cocoa butter.
- 6:30And the whole world's regulating chocolate because because of the rising costs, carl businesses
- 6:39seek to lower their costs. And how did they do it. They cut
- 6:44back. So they're going by these rules came into effect. Well, they're
- 6:48going to have to get more creative in the ingredients and in the taste that
- 6:53they provide, because at the end of the day, you're producing a product
- 6:57that delivers a certain experience, right experience, a packaging experience, you know,
- 7:03and an eating experience. You know. They say that you eat with
- 7:05your eyes first and your stomach second. Right, So, so the as
- 7:11long as the other elements of the experience are there that that plays into how
- 7:17much people some people are going to enjoy it, you know, And so
- 7:20you're if you're if you're any business and you have to deliver in a similar
- 7:26experience with less resources, you get creative and and that's what we're seeing here.
- 7:30So you know, they say, Carl that eating chocolate makes you feel
- 7:35like you're in love. Uh so people are doing it for that reason,
- 7:41then they don't care about the price. Right. Look, in most cases
- 7:46that is exactly right. You're especially if you're buying you for yourself or somebody
- 7:50and it's a special gift you're gonna pet, You're going to buy no matter
- 7:54what the price. Where you're going to see people spend less is around the
- 7:58holidays Eastern I mean they're going to buy more candy, but they're going to
- 8:03go for the bulk purchase. They're going to go for the store brand as
- 8:05opposed to the name brand. You know, they're going they're going to chip
- 8:11in with somebody else and instead of me buying my Eminem's and you buying your
- 8:15Eminems, we're going to get together and buy the economy pack. Those are
- 8:18the sorts of things that are going to start happening because people are going to
- 8:22have to budget how much they spend on what is gifting. You know,
- 8:30like this is a huge industry too, chocolate tens of billions of dollars.
- 8:35Back in twenty sixteen, it was twenty eight billion a year, and you
- 8:41know it's it's going higher. I guess as population increases. But again the
- 8:48prices get too high. You know, somebody elite the Jolly Ranchers instead,
- 8:54right, I wouldn't think, well, yeah, ranchers is being a substitute,
- 8:58but who knows, maybe can be the when you get when you see
- 9:03you to draw a parallel. You saw this in Major League Baseball when when
- 9:07the Yankees and the Mets and all the the Los Angeles Dodgers and all these
- 9:11teams started charging outrageous prices to pay their players more. What started to happen
- 9:16was the minor leagues got more and more popular, and it spawned other leagues.
- 9:20Same thing with the NFL and now you know the XFL and the USFL.
- 9:24When a price of something gets out of reach, it creates room for
- 9:28another category. So what you're likely to see is, you know, the
- 9:33chocolate will if the prices continue to rise, it will create its own category,
- 9:37and another category will slide in below it be that economy, be that,
- 9:43be that some sort of economy or value type product. Hey, so
- 9:48you know and that is so true, Like look at how much it costs
- 9:50to go to Disney, right you don't think families are picking other options?
- 9:56Like hey, correct, that's to go camping. You know of what a
- 10:01Disney vacation will set you back and credit card debt. All that figures into
- 10:05this, right, you take this. Disney is a great example. Disney
- 10:09and the other parts get more expensive. So what happens. It spawns an
- 10:13entire industry called the family entertainment center. And they're local, they're in your
- 10:18they're within a twenty to thirty minute drive of your location. They're one tenth
- 10:22of the size, but they're also one tenth the price. And so that's
- 10:26an entire industry that was spawned because the amusement industry got too expensive. And
- 10:31now it's a destination. It's not necessarily a go and do every single year.
- 10:35Yep, yep. So somehow with everything that happens, the economy figures
- 10:41out a way to continue on. It's human behavior, right, people are
- 10:46going to adapt the higher prices. Look, when the price of gasoline spiked
- 10:52in the seventies, and I remember this vividly. What happened. People didn't
- 10:56drive as much on the weekends, they car pooled. You got these car
- 11:01pool lanes and then the car has got smaller. Arguably that introduced other risk
- 11:07factors into it all. But when you get down to it, hey,
- 11:11what happened? You know it just the people adapted and the costs came down.
- 11:16So you know that's right when you always hear people crying about higher price
- 11:22and this higher price of that, generally, if the government keeps his hands
- 11:26off the out of the off the scale, prices are going to adapt.
- 11:31And you know what, bit what more fair away is there to allocate a
- 11:37good than cost? Yeah? I mean you if you hear the story of
- 11:41a successful entrepreneur and they tell you why they got into the business, of
- 11:46why they did it and what drew them to that industry, is that they
- 11:50sold a problem. They saw a need that they could fulfill or a problem
- 11:54that they can fix. And in this particular case, someone's going to say,
- 11:58you know, the chocolate, it's got too expensive. I saw a
- 12:01hole in the in the industry that I wanted to fill, and so I
- 12:05came out with this ABC product. And here we are now with this new
- 12:11business that's very innovative and very entrepreneurial. It's You're absolutely right. The free
- 12:16market system will take care of it. It might be a temporary inconvenience that
- 12:20the prices are high, but entrepreneurs are going to step in and they're going
- 12:24to create a product that'll fill that price that price level. Yep, exactly.
- 12:30Could not agree with you. Mark. Hey, Carl, we find
- 12:33you still at Carlgoul dot coms wait to find me all right, I've got
- 12:37a question for Carl and myself. Email KL at Carrie Lets dot com.
- 12:41We'll get you an answer real quick. The link to carl site is in
- 12:45the show notes of this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com. Go there,
- 12:48sign up for your for your newsletter. Carl. Always a pleasure,
- 12:52Thank you and be well. HKS Kerry, enjoy that chocolate. Thanks for
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