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Mega Edition: Bryan Kohberger And The Hunt For The Elantra In The Early Stages (8/18/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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Speaker 1: And welcome back to the program. At this point, we're
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Speaker 1: all very familiar with a two thousand and eleven through
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Speaker 1: twenty and thirteen white HONDEI Alantra being part of the
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Speaker 1: overall investigation into what happened in Moscow. Well, there was
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Speaker 1: what people thought might have been a lead earlier today,
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Speaker 1: which was a white HONDEI Alantra that fits the description
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Speaker 1: in Eugene, Oregon. Now, this vehicle was pretty banged up,
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Speaker 1: looked like it was just abandoned by the side of
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Speaker 1: the road if we were just looking at the pictures.
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Speaker 1: But remember they don't provide us with any context. You
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Speaker 1: can look at a picture and it could tell a
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Speaker 1: million different stories, but without context, which one of those
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Speaker 1: stories is the truth? Well, it turns out here that
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Speaker 1: this vehicle that some folks thought might have been involved
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Speaker 1: isn't involved. In fact, it's registered to a woman in
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Speaker 1: Colorado who has no ties to Moscow, whose car was
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Speaker 1: wrecked and impounded. And we got that tidbit of information
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Speaker 1: right from the Moscow Police Department in their most updated
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Speaker 1: press release. So with that in mind, let's dive into
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Speaker 1: this article from KVAL, a local station up in Eugene,
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Speaker 1: and let's see What's going on headline police crash car
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Speaker 1: found an Oregon has no connection to Idaho quadruple murder.
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Speaker 1: This article was authored by kval KLW staff. Authorities in
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Speaker 1: Idaho announced on Tuesday a white Hondai Alantra involved in
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Speaker 1: a crash in Oregon has no connection to the quadruple
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Speaker 1: murder of four college students in mid November. The Eugene
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Speaker 1: Police Department said they were initially made aware of the
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Speaker 1: car during the weekend when they received a call saying
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Speaker 1: that a person was sleeping inside the car. Police said
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Speaker 1: the car had been involved in a job injury crash
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Speaker 1: earlier in the week and was abandoned after the involved
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Speaker 1: parties exchanged information. You know, people abandoned cars for all
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Speaker 1: kinds of reasons. Might be paid off already, they can't
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Speaker 1: afford to get a tow truck, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, all kinds of reasons.
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Speaker 1: Now, me, the first thing I think about when I
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Speaker 1: see an abandoned car is that it was stolen. But
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Speaker 1: that's not always the case, like we're seeing here, and again,
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Speaker 1: having more context obviously is very important if you want
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Speaker 1: to know the whole story. But the Moscow Police Department
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Speaker 1: said they spoke to the owner of the car and
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Speaker 1: have determined that the vehicle is not related to the
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Speaker 1: murder case. The vehicle is registered out of Colorado, and
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Speaker 1: the female owner is not believed to have any relation
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Speaker 1: to any property in Moscow, Idaho, or the ongoing murder investigations.
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Speaker 1: Police said the public is asked to stop contacting the owner. Now,
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Speaker 1: why in the hell would anyone in the public think
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Speaker 1: it's a good idea to contact the owner of this vehicle.
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Speaker 1: This shit is so bizarre and absurd to me. I
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Speaker 1: just don't understand it. Everybody thinks they're the hero in
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Speaker 1: the story.
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Speaker 2: Huh. It is just so crazy.
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Speaker 1: Moscow police have said Awaite Alantra was seen near a
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Speaker 1: rental house where the bodies of four University of Idaho's students,
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Speaker 1: including Ethan Chapin, Xanakernodle, Madison Mogan, and Kaylee Gonsalvez, were
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Speaker 1: found stabbed to death on November thirteenth. In a new
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Speaker 1: Facebook post, Chief James Frye said investigators continue to process
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Speaker 1: more than seven thousand, six hundred and fifty email tips,
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Speaker 1: four three hundred and thirteen phone tips, and four thousand,
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Speaker 1: five hundred and eighty three digital media submissions. He also
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Speaker 1: said they have conducted more than two hundred and fifty interviews,
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Speaker 1: so there's no doubt that they're putting in the work
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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and they're you know, putting in the hours. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 1: it just hasn't led anywhere yet. Investigators said they believe
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Speaker 1: someone has information that adds context to what occurred on
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Speaker 1: the night of the murders and request additional pictures, video
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Speaker 1: and social media content. So at what point is a
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Speaker 1: reward a good idea. I know everybody's out there talking about, oh,
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Speaker 1: it's going to bring out the crazies, but can you
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Speaker 1: bring out any more crazies than have already arrived at
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Speaker 1: the party here? I don't think you can, And in fact,
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Speaker 1: I think it'll go the other way at this point.
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Speaker 1: Now that might have been something from the past, when
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Speaker 1: these stories didn't get as much attention. Oh yeah, there's
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Speaker 1: a reward, let me call in with some bullshit. Nowadays
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Speaker 1: it's a whole different ballgame. Anyone can send a tip
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Speaker 1: to the tip line, Anyone could tag somebody in a
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Speaker 1: Twitter post.
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Speaker 2: I think it's the opposite effect these days.
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Speaker 1: You put out a and you're gonna get somebody out
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Speaker 1: there who might want to talk. You really think some
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Speaker 1: scumbag if they have some information, they're just gonna roll
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Speaker 1: over on their boy for no reason. No way, they
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Speaker 1: got to have a little motivation for that. Our focus
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Speaker 1: remains on the investigation, not an individual's activity is displayed
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Speaker 1: in the tip. Officials said, whether you believe it is
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Speaker 1: significant or not, your information might be one of the
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Speaker 1: puzzle pieces that help solve these murders. What he's saying
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Speaker 1: there is if you were drinking in the video, or
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Speaker 1: you're smoking some weed or something like that, the police
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Speaker 1: officers they don't care at this point what you were
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Speaker 1: doing in those pictures. At least that's what they're telling you.
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Speaker 1: They don't care that you might have been drinking while
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Speaker 1: you're underage. If you have some information that can crack
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Speaker 1: this case, or some video or some pictures, they want
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Speaker 1: you to come forward. So far, police have not identified
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Speaker 1: the suspect or suspects. Fry also address questions regarding leadership
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Speaker 1: in this investigation, noting that the Moscow Police Department is
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Speaker 1: heading the case. Were there people under the impression that
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Speaker 1: that wasn't happening because the Feds don't just come in
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Speaker 1: and take over a whole lass case like this, they
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Speaker 1: have to have jurisdiction. They'll help out, they'll provide logistics,
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Speaker 1: they'll provide support, they'll provide you know, financial means if necessary.
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Speaker 1: But they're not going to take over the investigation. That's
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Speaker 1: up to the local jurisdiction. That's up to Chief Fry
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Speaker 1: and his department. Let me be clear, this is the
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Speaker 1: Moscow Police Department's investigation, and I am the chief of Police,
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Speaker 1: Fry noted on Facebook. So with him saying that, the
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Speaker 1: way I feel is this, the buck stops with him.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: He's telling us all right here publicly that he's the man.
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Speaker 1: He's in charge of all of this, and according to
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Speaker 1: Chief Fry, they have everything well in hand. So if
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Speaker 1: things aren't in hand and this murder doesn't get solved,
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Speaker 1: that means that we should be looking to Chief Fry
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Speaker 1: for answers. Right, the decisions are mine and mine alone.
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Speaker 1: I have an excellent command staff with over ninety years
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Speaker 1: of combined experience overseeing the investigations daily operation, and I
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Speaker 1: select who runs the investigative teams. We are supported by
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Speaker 1: highly trained and experienced personnel from the Idaho State Police
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Speaker 1: and the FBI. Their continued resources and knowledge are vital
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Speaker 1: to our success. Our investigative units work under a unified
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Speaker 1: structure and have the autonomy to move forward and solve
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Speaker 1: this case. Despite statements about my team, we remain focused
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Speaker 1: on solving the murder of force students, to seek justice
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Speaker 1: for them, their families, and to help our community heal. Well,
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Speaker 1: what else would you be focused on? The criticism? I
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Speaker 1: don't know what to tell this guy, but that comes
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Speaker 1: with the job. When you have a high profile gig
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Speaker 1: like this, whether it's to be a politician, a sheriff,
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Speaker 1: or anything in between, and something goes south, who do
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Speaker 1: you think people are gonna look to. I think Chief
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Speaker 1: Fries should have some thicker skin here and not worry
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Speaker 1: so much about the criticism and just worry about what's
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Speaker 1: going on as far as the investigation goes.
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Speaker 2: Police have also.
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Speaker 1: Issued a warning to anyone who is harassing and threatening
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Speaker 1: others online, as authorities told KLW that rumors and speculation
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Speaker 1: are affecting the families of the victims as well as
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Speaker 1: their friends and fellow students. Well, not for nothing, but
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Speaker 1: I think that we've heard more from the families coming
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Speaker 1: out talking about how they're being affected by the misinformation
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Speaker 1: from the police, Then.
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Speaker 2: We've heard about this other stuff.
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Speaker 1: Sure, the shit online is garbage and anyone engaging in
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Speaker 1: it is a garbage individual. If you're harassing anybody, you're
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Speaker 1: a garbage individual. But it's like they keep focusing on this. Right,
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Speaker 1: here's an idea, a little less focus on what's going
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Speaker 1: on as far as as internet conspiracy theory, and a
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Speaker 1: little more focus on what's going on on the ground.
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Speaker 1: When people look at rumors in speculation, it can drive
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Speaker 1: them to harass people, call out people, or even base
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Speaker 1: their tips to us on information that is considered speculation.
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Speaker 1: Robbie Johnson, who is a public information officer for the
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Speaker 1: Moscow Police Department, previously told KLW, why don't you have
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Speaker 1: somebody monitoring the internet? Break off an agent, have one
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Speaker 1: monitor TikTok, have one monitor read it, have one monitor Facebook.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand. It seems like there's way too much
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Speaker 1: focus on what's going on on the internet here. That
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Speaker 1: speculation police said is borderline accusatory. Well, they're not lying
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Speaker 1: about that. There are way too many people who have
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Speaker 1: gone way overboard, way overboard, and if people have crossed
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Speaker 1: the line, they should be prosecuted. But people engaging in
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Speaker 1: speculation in a rumor or talking about the case in general.
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Speaker 1: There's no way to stop that. And if you're wasting
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Speaker 1: your time worrying about it, and you're wasting resources, and
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Speaker 1: you're talking about it all the time, the heavy speculation,
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Speaker 1: the heavy rumors, none of this is unique to what
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Speaker 1: is going on in Idaho. Just take a look at
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Speaker 1: any story that's ever had any traction recently, and go
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Speaker 1: to Reddit, or go to any forum and take a search,
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Speaker 1: and you'll see rumor and speculation are rampant. And anyone
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Speaker 1: who's going into these message boards or these forums should
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Speaker 1: take everything that they read with a grain of salt.
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Speaker 1: Captain Roger Laneer agreed, noting that the rumors on social
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Speaker 1: media have been the most frustrating part of the investigation.
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Speaker 1: Oh is that so huh more frustrating than you know,
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Speaker 1: finding the person or persons who killed these kids. And again,
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Speaker 1: this is what I mean about the communication. He could
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Speaker 1: have easily said something like, we don't pay attention to
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Speaker 1: unfounded speculation and rumor on the internet. We're doing real
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Speaker 1: police work here and behind the scenes, me and my
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Speaker 1: homicide detectives are really following leads. So what people do
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Speaker 1: on the Internet is their business, but I want them
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Speaker 1: to be aware that if they do cross the line
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Speaker 1: and they harass somebody, at least in my district or
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Speaker 1: my jurisdiction, they could be prosecuted. Besides that, why pay
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Speaker 1: any attention to what a bunch of knuckleheads are saying
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Speaker 1: on the internet. The really unfortunate part is the effect
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Speaker 1: it's had on the victims' families, the college students and
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Speaker 1: friends of the victims, some of whom have had death threats.
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Speaker 1: And again, look, there's no excusing people who are going
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Speaker 1: to do that, But the problem is how do you
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Speaker 1: stop it. The Internet is a wild place, filled with
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Speaker 1: a lot of wild people who love big accusations, but
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Speaker 1: most times they come short on the evidence. And anyone
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Speaker 1: who's been around anything like this as far as one
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Speaker 1: of these cases knows exactly what I'm talking about. You
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Speaker 1: have people out here with spirit boxes. I'm a psychic,
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Speaker 1: my uncle was a psychic. I used to work at
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Speaker 1: the fair. You know, all kinds of wild, crazy stuff,
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Speaker 1: and that's just how these cases go. We saw the
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Speaker 1: same thing with Gabby Potito, and don't even get me
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Speaker 1: started with the Jeffrey Epstein case and Glenn Maxwell you
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Speaker 1: want to talk about every crazy coming out of the woodwork,
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Speaker 1: go ahead and do a deep dive on any forum
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Speaker 1: that has to do with those people. Still, Lanier said
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Speaker 1: he is confident the killer or killers will be brought
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Speaker 1: to justice. He, as well as everyone else involved in
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Speaker 1: the case, said it's their top priority. And I do
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Speaker 1: not dispute that. I don't think for a minute that
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Speaker 1: anyone is sitting on their hands up in Idaho. As
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Speaker 1: far as these investigators go, local or otherwise, everybody wants
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Speaker 1: the same thing. They all launch justice here. They know
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Speaker 1: that families were ripped apart. Police said the holidays will
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Speaker 1: not impede their investigation. The investigative pace will not slow
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Speaker 1: down for the weekend or the holidays, police said Friday,
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Speaker 1: and the departure of University of Idaho's students returning home
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Speaker 1: for winter break is not expected to cause any slow
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Speaker 1: down in the investigation.
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Speaker 2: All right, folks, Well there it is.
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Speaker 1: As far as the White Hondai Alantra goes, that's really
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Speaker 1: the meat and the potatoes here. There was a lot
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Speaker 1: of talk that that might be involved with the case here,
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Speaker 1: might have something to do with these murders, and the
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Speaker 1: Moscow police have come out and said it has nothing
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Speaker 1: to do with what happened in Moscow, So that means
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Speaker 1: the hunt is still on for the white Hondai Elantra.
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Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this one.
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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. Yesterday
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Speaker 1: we heard from authorities about a white Hondai a Lantra
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Speaker 1: that might be involved or related to the murders that
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Speaker 1: took place on King Street. Now, the police haven't said
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Speaker 1: that these people or this person is a suspect as
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Speaker 1: of now. They're just saying that whoever was driving this
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Speaker 1: vehicle or who was ever inside of this vehicle might
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Speaker 1: have crucial information that helps solve this puzzle. So we
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Speaker 1: have a couple of articles that we're going to dive into,
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Speaker 1: but first let's start off with the statement from the
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Speaker 1: police department themselves. And this statement was released on December eighth,
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Speaker 1: Due to the volume of calls with tips and leads
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Speaker 1: coming in about the request for information about a white
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Speaker 1: twenty eleven twenty thirteen Handai alantra, the tip line is
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Speaker 1: now directed to an FBI call center. The global call
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Speaker 1: center has the resources to take those calls, categorize them,
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Speaker 1: and send them onto investigators so that they can utilize
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Speaker 1: those tips in the investigation. Please be aware that this
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Speaker 1: new call process takes patients on behalf of the caller
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Speaker 1: and there are some prompts to follow. Remember your tip
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Speaker 1: may be the key to solving the case. Watch an
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Speaker 1: interview with Moscow Police Chief James Fridaday for media and
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Speaker 1: public use on the Moscow Police YouTube channel. As previously reported,
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Speaker 1: detectives are interested in speaking with the occupants of a
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Speaker 1: white twenty and eleven through twenty thirteen Handai alantra with
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Speaker 1: an unknown license plate. Tips and leads have led investigators
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Speaker 1: to look for additional information about a vehicle being in
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Speaker 1: the immediate area of the King Street residents during the
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Speaker 1: early morning hours of November thirteenth. Investigators believe the occupants
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Speaker 1: of this vehicle may have critical information to share regarding
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Speaker 1: this case. If you know of or own the vehicle
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Speaker 1: matching this description or know anyone who may have been
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Speaker 1: driving this vehicle on the day's proceeding or the day
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Speaker 1: of the murders, Please forward that information to the tip line.
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Speaker 1: Information can be submitted tipline two zero eight eight eight
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Speaker 1: three seven to one eight zero, email tipline at CI
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Speaker 1: dot Moscow dot id dot US, Digital Media, FBI dot
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Speaker 1: gov backslash, Moscow, Idaho. So that was the official release
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Speaker 1: by the actual police department. Now let's spin over to
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Speaker 1: the article from Newsweek headline tips on Idaho student murders
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Speaker 1: pour in amid search for WHITEHNDAI. This article was authored
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Speaker 1: by Aila Slisko. Police in Moscow, Idaho are reporting a
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Speaker 1: large volume of tips after launching an appeal for information
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Speaker 1: concerning a vehicle that could be tied to the killings
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Speaker 1: of four University of Idaho students. So, if you own
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Speaker 1: an a Lantra and you live in the area, my
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Speaker 1: guess is all of your neighbors are looking at you
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Speaker 1: sideways right now, and if you were in the area
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Speaker 1: the night of the killings, probably a good idea to
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Speaker 1: present yourself to the investigation before they have to come
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Speaker 1: and find your ass because that's really not going to
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Speaker 1: look good for you.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Again, just because they're saying they want to speak to
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Speaker 1: the people or person who was in this vehicle or
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Speaker 1: driving this vehicle, doesn't mean that these are the people
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Speaker 1: or the person who committed the murders. Now, it's certainly
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Speaker 1: the best lead that we have seen as the public,
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Speaker 1: the first what I would call a break in the case,
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Speaker 1: and they're treating it in such a manner, you know,
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Speaker 1: having it go through the FBI tip line to try
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Speaker 1: and facilitate the tips a little bit better. I think
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Speaker 1: that's a really good idea. Instead of being overburdened locally,
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Speaker 1: have you know, the national tip line where they're used
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Speaker 1: to dealing with this stuff and they can bring in
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Speaker 1: more manpower or whatever, have them go through it, sanitize
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Speaker 1: the tips, and then give the ones that might have
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Speaker 1: a little bit of gold to the investigators so that
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Speaker 1: frees the investigators up to do you know, more legwork
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Speaker 1: or whatever it is they're doing behind the scenes. The
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Speaker 1: Moscow Police Department on Wednesday ask the public for help
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Speaker 1: in gathering clues about the occupants of a white Hondai
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Speaker 1: Alantra that was spotted close to the site of the
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Speaker 1: homicides last month. Now that's interesting too. I wonder who
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Speaker 1: spotted this luntra, this Hondai and where they got that
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Speaker 1: bit of information. My guess is they've probably had the
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Speaker 1: information for a little bit and they were trying to
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Speaker 1: chase it down. And when they couldn't track it. When
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Speaker 1: they couldn't chase it down, that's when they appealed to
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Speaker 1: the public for help. But like I said earlier, it's
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Speaker 1: going to be the public that breaks this case. There's
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Speaker 1: no Sherlock Holmes up there in Idaho right now, Folks
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Speaker 1: that's sitting there, you know, acting like Will Graham from
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Speaker 1: The Red Dragon. That's just not reality. It's gonna take
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Speaker 1: a break in the case as far as a tip
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Speaker 1: or something like that, unless, of course, there's a hit
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Speaker 1: with DNA. On Thursday, police said that calls to a
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Speaker 1: tip line that they established for the case would be
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Speaker 1: forwarded to an FBI call center due to the line
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Speaker 1: being flooded with callers eager to provide information. Now, if
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Speaker 1: you're sitting in your living room in Maine, you probably
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Speaker 1: have no idea who was driving an Alantra on the
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Speaker 1: night of these murders, so you should probably save it Now,
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Speaker 1: if you were living in Pullman, or you were up
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Speaker 1: in the area, you were in Moscow, you should probably
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Speaker 1: be calling in and telling the police what you know.
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Speaker 1: But there's going to be a lot of people that
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Speaker 1: are going to call with crazy ass tips. We all
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Speaker 1: know how that goes. So it's a good idea to
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Speaker 1: have more manpower here to go through it at the
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Speaker 1: call center and have people who are you know, a
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Speaker 1: debt at doing this, people who do it all the
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Speaker 1: time and they're used to these kinds of phone calls
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Speaker 1: and dealing with this situation. The tip line will now
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Speaker 1: go to an FBI call center. Moscow Police Chief James
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Speaker 1: Fry said during a press brief that the department shared
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Speaker 1: on YouTube. We've done that because we've started receiving many,
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Speaker 1: many tips, and that call center can categorize those and
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Speaker 1: they can send those tips back to investigators so we
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Speaker 1: can follow up and make sure that we continue with
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Speaker 1: our investigation. So it's all about utilizing the manpower correctly
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Speaker 1: and utilizing people in the places where they're best utilized.
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Speaker 1: And if you have good homicide police sitting there manning
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Speaker 1: the phones, well that's not gonna really serve anybody, is it.
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Speaker 1: So it just makes sense to take a little bit
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Speaker 1: of food off of their plate whenever you can do that.
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Speaker 1: Frey went on to stress that a different white vehicle
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Speaker 1: featured in newly released body camera footage taken close to
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Speaker 1: the time of the killings is not the vehicle that
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Speaker 1: we are looking for, despite speculation about the car from
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Speaker 1: some web sleuths. Now, I saw this speculation too, and
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Speaker 1: I did get a few emails about it. But for me,
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Speaker 1: I figured that if there was something on the body
21:39
Speaker 1: camera footage, the police did miss that, and if they did, boy,
21:42
Speaker 1: we're in big trouble. But Chief Fry coming out and
21:45
Speaker 1: confirming that that wasn't the car that they're looking for,
21:49
Speaker 1: that kind of fell in line with where I was at.
21:54
Speaker 1: A bulletin shared to the Moscow Police Department's website and
21:57
Speaker 1: Facebook page on Thursday also states that the volume of
22:01
Speaker 1: calls received on the tip line since the appeal was
22:04
Speaker 1: made had forced the department to seek the help of
22:06
Speaker 1: the FBI Call Center, explaining that the Global Call Center
22:10
Speaker 1: has the resources to take those calls. Like anything else,
22:14
Speaker 1: it's all about resources, and anytime you're dealing with the
22:17
Speaker 1: federal government, you have way more resources than a place
22:22
Speaker 1: like Moscow could ever hope to have. Even with a
22:25
Speaker 1: million dollar shot in the arm from the governor, they
22:28
Speaker 1: still don't even begin to have the resources that the
22:31
Speaker 1: federal government can tap. So if you can use those
22:35
Speaker 1: resources to try and help facilitate catching the people responsible,
22:39
Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea. Please be aware that
22:44
Speaker 1: this new call process takes patients on behalf of the caller,
22:47
Speaker 1: and there are some prompts to follow. The bulletin states
22:50
Speaker 1: remember your tip may be the key to solving this case.
22:54
Speaker 1: The bodies of students Klei Gonsalvez, Madison Mogan, Ethan Chapin
22:59
Speaker 1: and Zanakadel were found that an off cap Is residence
23:03
Speaker 1: on the morning of November thirteenth. The victims had been
23:06
Speaker 1: fatally stabbed with what police have described as a fixed
23:09
Speaker 1: blade knife. Few other details of the investigation have been
23:14
Speaker 1: released to the public or to the families of the victims,
23:17
Speaker 1: with police explaining that doing so could come at the
23:20
Speaker 1: expense of compromising the investigation and the prosecution. The report
23:26
Speaker 1: of the vehicles spotted on the night of the killings,
23:29
Speaker 1: which police said was a twenty eleven twenty thirteen white
23:33
Speaker 1: Handai a Lantra with an unknown license plate could be
23:36
Speaker 1: the most significant piece of information released so far, according
23:40
Speaker 1: to one expert. And look, I'm certainly not an expert.
23:43
Speaker 1: I'm lucky I can tie my shoes, but this is
23:46
Speaker 1: certainly a significant piece here, the only lead that we
23:50
Speaker 1: have so far and the only time that the authorities
23:53
Speaker 1: have reached out to the public for help. So my
23:56
Speaker 1: guess is this car might have a couple of clues.
23:59
Speaker 1: They might I'd have something to say. So hopefully with
24:03
Speaker 1: all of the attention that's being drawn to it, the
24:06
Speaker 1: person who owns the car comes forward, so we could
24:09
Speaker 1: either a see them get arrested or b maybe they
24:13
Speaker 1: have some information that leads to an arrest. Kenneth Main's,
24:20
Speaker 1: former law enforcement official and founder of the American Investigative
24:24
Speaker 1: Society of Cold Cases, previously told Newsweek that information about
24:28
Speaker 1: the car's occupants could provide detectives with information crucial to
24:33
Speaker 1: solving the case. Someone must have seen it or it
24:36
Speaker 1: was spotted on surveillance during that time when a lot
24:40
Speaker 1: of cars or when not a lot of cars excuse me, are.
24:43
Speaker 2: On the road.
24:44
Speaker 1: Main said, for police to release this information means it
24:47
Speaker 1: holds potential significant value to the investigation. Maybe not the suspect,
24:52
Speaker 1: but potentially a witness. That's definitely for sure, because they
24:57
Speaker 1: wouldn't release this unless they had a little and something
25:00
Speaker 1: to go on here, and it might prove to be
25:02
Speaker 1: nothing right. It might be, you know, a coincidence. The
25:06
Speaker 1: car was there for whatever reason, a hookup. Somebody from
25:09
Speaker 1: out of town fifty sixty miles away came down to
25:13
Speaker 1: meet a girl or a boy or whatever. But until
25:17
Speaker 1: we find out who was driving that vehicle or who
25:20
Speaker 1: was in that vehicle, there's no way to know. Now,
25:24
Speaker 1: to finish this off, we have a quick couple of
25:27
Speaker 1: paragraphs from an article on Fox News headline Idaho murders.
25:33
Speaker 1: Border authorities monitoring for Hondai, a Lantra that was near
25:37
Speaker 1: the scene of quadruple homicide. The US Canadian border is
25:42
Speaker 1: roughly one hundred and ninety miles north of Moscow, Idaho,
25:45
Speaker 1: where four college students were murdered last month. Now, I
25:49
Speaker 1: never understood why anyone would think running to Canada is
25:53
Speaker 1: a good idea. You're not gonna get caught there. What
25:56
Speaker 1: you think people in Canada aren't watching the news. They
25:59
Speaker 1: don't know that, you know, somebody in a white hondae
26:02
Speaker 1: a launcha might be rolling through. Trust me when I
26:05
Speaker 1: tell you, people in Canada are paying attention. So I
26:09
Speaker 1: never really got the hole I'm gonna run to Canada. Now,
26:12
Speaker 1: if you're gonna try and get away to Mexico or
26:14
Speaker 1: something like that, okay, you probably won't get caught by
26:18
Speaker 1: you know, somebody who's watching TV or whatever, but you're
26:22
Speaker 1: gonna have other problems if you go south of the border.
26:25
Speaker 1: So whenever we have a situation like this and we
26:28
Speaker 1: hear about people that might try and make a run
26:30
Speaker 1: for the border, I always take it with a grain
26:33
Speaker 1: of salt. Now, it doesn't mean that it's not possible.
26:36
Speaker 1: It is possible.
26:36
Speaker 2: Who knows.
26:37
Speaker 1: But I figured, since we're on this right now, this topic,
26:41
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna do a whole episode about a
26:44
Speaker 1: possible run for the border, I figured we just throw
26:47
Speaker 1: it on real quick. So the author of this article
26:50
Speaker 1: is Paul Best. Ports of entry along the US Canadian
26:56
Speaker 1: border are monitoring for a white two thousand on eleven,
27:00
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen Hyundai a Lantra that was in the immediate
27:04
Speaker 1: area of a home where a four University of Idaho
27:07
Speaker 1: students were murdered. Last month, A Customs and Border Protection
27:11
Speaker 1: spokesperson has said. The Moscow Police Department said on Wednesday
27:17
Speaker 1: that they want to speak to the occupants or occupant
27:20
Speaker 1: of the vehicle whom they believe may have critical information
27:24
Speaker 1: about the quadruple homicide on November thirteenth. Now, remember, folks,
27:28
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to get their hopes up here.
27:30
Speaker 2: We don't know.
27:33
Speaker 1: I've seen some people running with speculation, thinking that this
27:37
Speaker 1: is it. They found the person, and this is going
27:39
Speaker 1: to be the end of it. While it very well
27:43
Speaker 1: might be. I don't want people to think that and
27:46
Speaker 1: then be let down, right because this could be a
27:49
Speaker 1: very long process. Our ports of entry out that way
27:56
Speaker 1: are aware of it and will be keeping an eye
27:58
Speaker 1: out for it, a CBP folksperson told Fox News Digital.
28:03
Speaker 1: The Canada Border Service Agency said they cannot comment on
28:07
Speaker 1: this specific case, but that they are frequently in contact
28:11
Speaker 1: with law enforcement on both sides of the border. The
28:14
Speaker 1: CBSA works closely with Canadian and US law enforcement partners
28:19
Speaker 1: to ensure the safety and security of our shared border.
28:23
Speaker 1: This includes cooperating on activities such as identifying wanted persons.
28:27
Speaker 1: A CBSA spokesperson told Fox News Digital. So you know
28:31
Speaker 1: that the communication between America and Canada is robust, and
28:37
Speaker 1: Canadians are getting a lot of the same programming that
28:40
Speaker 1: we're getting here in the United States. Besides that border,
28:43
Speaker 1: there's really no difference honestly between our two countries when
28:46
Speaker 1: it comes to stuff like this. If there's a big
28:49
Speaker 1: story in America, of course Canada is covering it. So
28:53
Speaker 1: if you think these border patrol agents on either side
28:55
Speaker 1: of the border aren't going to be paying attention, they
28:58
Speaker 1: most certainly are. And if you have to be going
29:00
Speaker 1: across the border in the next few days or whatever
29:03
Speaker 1: in a white Hondai Alantra, probably gonna have a little.
29:07
Speaker 2: Bit of a delay.
29:10
Speaker 1: The Moscow Police Department credited tips for leading them to
29:13
Speaker 1: the Honda Alantra. The license plate number on the vehicle
29:16
Speaker 1: is unknown. It's been more than three weeks since the
29:21
Speaker 1: murders of Xana kernodle Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogan, and klee
29:25
Speaker 1: Gan Salvez. Well, like I said, folks, it's gonna be
29:28
Speaker 1: a tip, and that's how the police got to where
29:31
Speaker 1: they are right now. They wouldn't even have the Honda
29:33
Speaker 1: Alantra unless they.
29:34
Speaker 2: Got a tip.
29:36
Speaker 1: So obviously the rumor mill is churning. They're getting good
29:40
Speaker 1: quality leads and they're looking to follow up on those leads,
29:44
Speaker 1: and of course the million dollar question is will any
29:47
Speaker 1: of those leads pan out? All Right, folks, that's gonna
29:51
Speaker 1: do it for this one. If you'd like to contact me,
29:54
Speaker 1: you can do that at Bobby Kupuci at ProtonMail dot com.
29:58
Speaker 1: That's Bobby Capucci.
30:02
Speaker 2: At ProtonMail dot com. You can also find me.
30:05
Speaker 1: On Twitter at Bobby underscore cap Ucci. The link that
30:11
Speaker 1: I discussed can be found in the description box. What's
30:17
Speaker 1: up everyone, and welcome back to the program. As police
30:22
Speaker 1: in Moscow continue to look for the white Hondai A Lantra,
30:26
Speaker 1: we're learning a little bit more about how many of
30:29
Speaker 1: these Alautras were registered to park at the University of
30:33
Speaker 1: Idaho during the timeframe from twenty and eighteen to two
30:37
Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two. And that number, according to this
30:41
Speaker 1: report anyway, is ninety white Honda A Lauantras that fit
30:46
Speaker 1: the bill. Now, that's not that many white Honda A Launtras,
30:51
Speaker 1: especially when you're looking at it in the totality of
30:54
Speaker 1: how many vehicles they have to go through. What was
30:57
Speaker 1: the last number we saw twenty two thousand vehicles hondai
31:01
Speaker 1: A launtras that they were searching through that were registered.
31:04
Speaker 1: So my guess is that they went through all of
31:07
Speaker 1: these alautras that were registered to people who go to
31:11
Speaker 1: the university or who have went to the university in
31:14
Speaker 1: the past few years, and went through checking them off
31:17
Speaker 1: their list as people who might have been involved or
31:20
Speaker 1: people who might have been in that car during this timeframe.
31:25
Speaker 2: So it's logical to think.
31:26
Speaker 1: That the police would have checked this right away and
31:30
Speaker 1: these cars would have been the first ones that they
31:32
Speaker 1: would look at. You would think people who were in
31:35
Speaker 1: proximity to these students, people who might have went to
31:38
Speaker 1: school with them, and you work your way back from there.
31:43
Speaker 1: But with twenty two thousand hondai A launtras to go through,
31:47
Speaker 1: it just makes sense that the ones that are in
31:49
Speaker 1: the closest proximity are the ones that you go through first.
31:54
Speaker 1: So if they would have found one of these Hondaia
31:56
Speaker 1: Lautras to have anything to do with these crimes, I'm
31:59
Speaker 1: guessing we would have heard about that by now. But
32:02
Speaker 1: this report in Fox News is talking about the hondai
32:06
Speaker 1: A Lantras that have been registered to park at the
32:09
Speaker 1: university and I thought it would be a good addition
32:11
Speaker 1: to the catalog so we could keep this part of
32:13
Speaker 1: the story going as clearly as possible. So to do that,
32:18
Speaker 1: we're going to dive into this article from Fox News
32:22
Speaker 1: headline Idaho murders. Ninety white Hondai A Lantras were registered
32:27
Speaker 1: to park on campus as cops struggle to find the vehicle.
32:31
Speaker 1: Idaho police are seeking a white Hondai A Lantra in
32:34
Speaker 1: connection with a quadruple stabbing that left four college students
32:38
Speaker 1: dead last month. And we know that the Hondi Alantra
32:43
Speaker 1: has been a real point of interest for the investigators,
32:47
Speaker 1: and it's really the only thing that we've had to
32:49
Speaker 1: sink our teeth into as well, at least that's been
32:52
Speaker 1: provided to us by an official source. This article was
32:56
Speaker 1: authored by Michael Ruiz. The University of Idaho has ninety
33:02
Speaker 1: white Hondei Alantras registered to park at the school, vehicles
33:06
Speaker 1: similar to the one police are seeking in connection with
33:09
Speaker 1: the quadruple homicide, just steps off campus. Record show Wednesday
33:14
Speaker 1: marked forty five days since the slayings, and police are
33:17
Speaker 1: still seeking the car they say was spotted near the
33:20
Speaker 1: scene of the crime on King Road in the early
33:23
Speaker 1: hours of November thirteenth, twenty twenty two, and they've been
33:28
Speaker 1: adamant that whoever was in this vehicle has critical information.
33:32
Speaker 1: Now you could take that for what you will. Either
33:36
Speaker 1: you think they were involved in the murders or they
33:39
Speaker 1: saw something that they might not know about.
33:41
Speaker 2: But at this point you would think if you were.
33:44
Speaker 1: Just somebody who saw something or somebody who might have
33:47
Speaker 1: seen something, that you would have come forward already. So
33:51
Speaker 1: again that leads me to believe that this Elantra might
33:54
Speaker 1: be a little more crucial to this investigation than the
33:57
Speaker 1: police are even letting on. And in my opinion, it's
34:01
Speaker 1: going to be very difficult to find this Honda Alantra
34:04
Speaker 1: because at this point I'm convinced that that Alantra was
34:08
Speaker 1: a stolen vehicle. We know how easy it is to
34:10
Speaker 1: steal a Kia, we know how easy it is to
34:13
Speaker 1: steal a Hondai. All you have to do is watch
34:15
Speaker 1: one of those crazy TikTok videos and they show you
34:18
Speaker 1: how to do it with using a USB cord, So
34:21
Speaker 1: it's not like it's difficult to do. And if you're
34:24
Speaker 1: trying to get away with these murders, I highly doubt
34:27
Speaker 1: you're going to use your own vehicle. Now, look, you
34:29
Speaker 1: might whoever did this might have been so wild with
34:33
Speaker 1: rage or so pissed off that they said, you know what,
34:36
Speaker 1: forget it, I don't care. I'm going to use my
34:38
Speaker 1: own car and I'm going to go do these murders.
34:42
Speaker 1: But I would think that if that's the case, they
34:44
Speaker 1: would have been able to track this person down by now.
34:49
Speaker 1: Kaylee Gonsalvez and Matty Mogan, best friends and roommates, were killed,
34:54
Speaker 1: along with housemates Xana Kernodle and her boyfriend Ethan Chapin
34:58
Speaker 1: in a stabbing attack. Leta County Coroner Kathy Maybitt previously
35:03
Speaker 1: said victims were likely sleeping at the start of the
35:06
Speaker 1: attack and only some of them had defensive wounds. City police,
35:10
Speaker 1: who are receiving help from the state and FBI, said
35:13
Speaker 1: Tuesday that they still have not identified a suspect. Now
35:17
Speaker 1: that's interesting. At the start of the attack, we were
35:20
Speaker 1: told they were killed while they were sleeping, but here
35:23
Speaker 1: now it says likely killed while they were sleeping. And
35:26
Speaker 1: I know it's just, you know, parsing words, but words
35:29
Speaker 1: are important communication matters, especially if you're the coroner or
35:34
Speaker 1: an official who's involved in something such as this. On
35:40
Speaker 1: December seventh, police announced they were looking for a white
35:42
Speaker 1: HONDEI a Lantra from between twenty and eleven and twenty
35:46
Speaker 1: and thirteen in connection with the case, and as of
35:50
Speaker 1: their most recent public remarks, they still have not found it.
35:54
Speaker 1: Progress continues to locate the white twentsand and eleven through
35:58
Speaker 1: twenty and thirteen Honda Alan believed to be in the
36:01
Speaker 1: immediate area of the King Road residents. During the early
36:04
Speaker 1: morning hours of November thirteenth. Authorities repeated on Tuesday, investigators
36:10
Speaker 1: believe the occupant or occupants may have critical information to
36:14
Speaker 1: share regarding this case, so they've been adamant about that
36:18
Speaker 1: for the whole way through at this point, since they
36:21
Speaker 1: released the information that they were looking for this Alantra,
36:24
Speaker 1: they have said that whoever was in this vehicle has
36:27
Speaker 1: critical and crucial information that could go forward and help
36:31
Speaker 1: solve this case. The statement did not describe the progress.
36:37
Speaker 1: Police have said that detectives were working their way through
36:40
Speaker 1: a list of more than twenty two thousand similar launtras
36:43
Speaker 1: and have been asking the public to come forward with information. Now,
36:47
Speaker 1: remember there's only twenty five thousand people in Moscow, how
36:51
Speaker 1: many of them have a Launtras. I'm sure not that many.
36:54
Speaker 1: We only had ninety registered to the university, so I'm
36:58
Speaker 1: sure there was, you know, a good amount more, But
37:01
Speaker 1: how many could there possibly be in the grand scheme
37:04
Speaker 1: of things. If you know of or own a vehicle
37:09
Speaker 1: matching this description, or know of anyone who may have
37:12
Speaker 1: been driving this specific vehicle on the day's preceding or
37:16
Speaker 1: the day of the murders, please forward that information to
37:19
Speaker 1: the tip line.
37:20
Speaker 2: Police said.
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Speaker 1: Tips can be submitted by phone to two zero eight
37:24
Speaker 1: eight A three seven to one eight zero, or email
37:28
Speaker 1: to the tip line at tipline at CI dot Moscow
37:32
Speaker 1: dot ID dot us. Partially redacted public records obtained by
37:39
Speaker 1: Fox News Digital show ninety white Hondaia Launtras have been
37:42
Speaker 1: registered for campus parking between the start of the fall
37:46
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen semester and December of twenty twenty two.
37:51
Speaker 1: In the primary contact field, many were left blank. However,
37:55
Speaker 1: the document included plate numbers for all but one of
37:58
Speaker 1: the cars, So you can find this document inside of
38:02
Speaker 1: this article, and like usual, you can find this article
38:05
Speaker 1: in the description box. According to the university's website, total
38:10
Speaker 1: enrollment last semester was about eleven five hundred. Police did
38:15
Speaker 1: not immediately respond to a message seeking comment on the
38:18
Speaker 1: campus parking registrations on Tuesday, and I doubt they would
38:23
Speaker 1: look the police. This is what we would call the
38:27
Speaker 1: low hanging fruit, the easy stuff to go through. At
38:30
Speaker 1: least it should be. Okay, University of Idaho, let me
38:33
Speaker 1: get all of the registration of white Hondaei launtras who
38:37
Speaker 1: are registered to park with you. Go through all of those.
38:40
Speaker 1: See who has anything to do with these students, if
38:42
Speaker 1: there's any ties, any connections, and work your way from there.
38:47
Speaker 1: And believe me when I tell you, I'm certainly no investigator.
38:51
Speaker 1: I don't even watch these kinds of TV shows, to
38:53
Speaker 1: be honest with you. My favorite cop show of all
38:56
Speaker 1: time was The Shield, and that's just because I liked
38:59
Speaker 1: Vic Mackie. But it just seems like common sense to
39:02
Speaker 1: me to work for the low hanging fruit and then
39:05
Speaker 1: work your way back from there to the more difficult
39:07
Speaker 1: cars that are going to be harder to track down.
39:10
Speaker 1: That way, you're not wasting your time and spinning wheels
39:14
Speaker 1: in neutral and you're actually making some progress. However, the
39:20
Speaker 1: documents also included a launtras from outside the model year
39:23
Speaker 1: range of the car that police are looking for. It
39:26
Speaker 1: was not immediately clear how many of the cars on
39:29
Speaker 1: the list did fall into that range, because many fields
39:32
Speaker 1: for model year were left blank. The school did not
39:35
Speaker 1: immediately respond to Fox News Digital's request for comment. And again,
39:42
Speaker 1: my guess is, and I can't say this with certainty
39:45
Speaker 1: because I'm not part of the investigation obviously, but my
39:48
Speaker 1: guess is the police have went through this already. But
39:53
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see and to take a look at
39:56
Speaker 1: the numbers that Fox is providing here because it gives
40:00
Speaker 1: us more of an idea of how many Alantras in
40:03
Speaker 1: general were registered to park at this university at this time,
40:08
Speaker 1: and it shows us that it shouldn't be too difficult
40:10
Speaker 1: for the police, at least for this portion of the
40:13
Speaker 1: investigation to go through and figure out if anyone might
40:17
Speaker 1: have been involved. Police have also asked the public to
40:22
Speaker 1: come forward with anything unusual downtown where Gonsalvs and Mogan
40:26
Speaker 1: were seen or related to a frat party at the
40:29
Speaker 1: Sigma Kai house two hundred yards away from the crime
40:32
Speaker 1: scene where Kernodle and Chapin had spent much of the
40:35
Speaker 1: evening and as far as I know, they spent the
40:38
Speaker 1: whole evening there, and until we get some confirmation one
40:41
Speaker 1: way or the other that tells us differently, that's what
40:44
Speaker 1: I'm rolling with. It doesn't look like they went anywhere
40:47
Speaker 1: besides that frat party and then to their house. Now,
40:51
Speaker 1: obviously this is evolving, and if something changes, will update that,
40:55
Speaker 1: but the timeline looks, at least as of now, like
40:59
Speaker 1: it was the signas Mackay party and then straight home.
41:04
Speaker 1: Authorities have not announced any arrests or publicly named any suspects.
41:08
Speaker 1: Last week, they investigated a similar Lantra registered in Colorado
41:13
Speaker 1: but found abandoned in Oregon. They later said they ruled
41:16
Speaker 1: it out as a potential connection. There was no way
41:20
Speaker 1: that was going to be connected. But they have to
41:22
Speaker 1: chase down every single lead. At this point in time,
41:26
Speaker 1: they can't afford not to chase down any leads. They
41:29
Speaker 1: can't leave anything on the table. There is way too
41:32
Speaker 1: much at stake. And hopefully they have somebody that they're
41:36
Speaker 1: interested in and they're just not telling us about it.
41:39
Speaker 2: That would be great.
41:40
Speaker 1: I'd love to be able to be on board with
41:42
Speaker 1: people who think that that's what's going on. But it
41:46
Speaker 1: seems to me that they're still working their way through
41:49
Speaker 1: the evidence here, and they have a mountain of it
41:51
Speaker 1: to get through. Never mind just the Elantra, but can
41:55
Speaker 1: you imagine what the DNA evidence must be like? What
41:58
Speaker 1: sort of puzzle that's put in front of them. Now,
42:01
Speaker 1: Hopefully with all of the extra help from the state
42:04
Speaker 1: police and the FBI, they can work their way through
42:07
Speaker 1: this evidence at a quick pace. But when you have
42:11
Speaker 1: this much DNA, there's only so much you can do
42:13
Speaker 1: as you're waiting for these results to come back from
42:16
Speaker 1: the lab. Now once again, hopefully that's all being expedited.
42:20
Speaker 1: They have mobile labs, Bring some mobile labs in, get
42:23
Speaker 1: more people involved, give people some more money, whatever it takes,
42:28
Speaker 1: let's make sure we get it expedited, and let's figure
42:30
Speaker 1: out what's going on here, and let's get the person
42:33
Speaker 1: or persons responsible in handcuffs and behind bars. All right, folks,
42:39
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this one. If you'd like
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