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Zouk Social Etiquette: The DJ Booth Dilemma (S05 Ep83) · ZoukNerds • Learn | Build | Belong

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There's a big ballroom, ginormous ballroom, but we stay
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in this tiny area here. Why?
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I don't know, imagine that the room is like a big square and
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the DJ maybe is in the corner, so everybody gravitates to that
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corner. How can I get there?
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I'm so shy. It's so hard for me because I
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know there's a big concentration of artists, experienced dancers
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all around that area, but I really want to dance with them.
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What do I do and why does that happen?
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One of the reasons why I personally feel more comfortable
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dancing near the DJ is because I'm such a shy and introverted
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person. The area of the DJ booth almost
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serves like a shield, like a force field that once I step
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behind the DJ booth, I am not accessible anymore.
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For me to start the whole process of dancing again
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somewhere else in the room, it almost feels like I just arrived
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at the party. It feels like a cold start.
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I put my winter jacket, my boots, hoping that would be
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enough to sort of send a message to people, like I am not
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available to dance right now. So guys, I sat down underneath
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the table, literally underneath the team.
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But even then, people were coming to invite me to dance.
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And I'll say no, I'm just resting, just listen to music
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and watching, blah blah blah. Have you ever noticed how a lot
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of the artists and the experienced dancers seem to hang
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out and dance closer to the DJs? Is it a secret club for the cool
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kids or is there a hidden reason why artist gravitates towards
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the DJ booth? Well, let's find out.
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Hello Hello everyone and welcome back to Zucanarians.
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In this episode, Guy Prada and I talk about the issue with the
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cliques and the DJ booth dilemma.
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We share the main reasons why artists often gravitates closer
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to the DJ, from finding a safety shield when you're tired to the
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simple convenience of safe storage of our bottle and shoes.
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We'll chat about how to handle being shy around big groups and
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why your favorite spot on the floor might just be your body's
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way of feeling at home. So let's go.
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Hello everyone, my name is Alison Sanji and let's welcome
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back our beautiful Co host GI Prada.
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Hello, GI. Hello, Alison.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome back.
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Welcome back. And today we're going to be
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talking about something a little bit different, a little bit
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different. It's nothing deep, nothing
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technical, but it's something, pun intended, social, because
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we're going to be talking about what happens in the social.
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The issue with cliques and little groups and one of the
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biggest ones that was brought to us, why do artists and some of
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the dancers choose to stay a little closer to the DJ when
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they go to a social or a festival?
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Imagine that the room is like a big square and the DJ maybe is
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in the corner, so everybody gravitates to that corner, or
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the DJ is in one of the sides, right in the middle of that
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wall. So then you have that whole,
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let's say, half circle force where everybody gravitates to.
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Why do people do that and what is the issue?
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Because I think this is something that we really want to
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dig into. It's OK.
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What are the things that you've been hearing lately about this?
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Yeah, recently I got a very specific request about this
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topic. I was asked why do the artists
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stay close to the DJ and you know, the person who was talking
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to me, How can I get there? How can I go there?
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I'm so shy. It's so hard for me to get to
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that area because I know there's a big concentration of teachers,
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artists, experienced dancers all around that area.
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And because of my shyness is so hard for me to get there.
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But I really want to dance with them.
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What do I do and why does that happen?
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It was a really interesting conversation explaining to this
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person why we would stay in that area.
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You know, what brings us to be closer to the DJ booth.
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And this reminded me some time ago, somebody did on Facebook,
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like a chart of the dance floor. I don't remember exactly or
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specifically if it was in Brazilian Zook, maybe it was in
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a different social dance page, but they did like a chart of the
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dance floor in the DJ booth here.
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And then the sections of the dance floor dedicated, like who
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would go to each section of the dance floor.
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Remember that, Addison, Remember if you saw this thing on
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Facebook back in the day? But it was really funny because
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it was almost spot on, you know? Remember that, Alison?
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It was Brazilian Zook thing. Yes I remember, I'm actually
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looking up on Google Now to see if I can find it, but I can only
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find other official more official ones talking about
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tango or ballroom or things like that, but I cannot find the
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funny one that was done. I think it was for Zook.
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Yeah, and there was this other mean of noble looking king
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looking character on a balcony looking and on the bottom saying
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something about when artists or artists on the DJ booth,
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something like this, like looking down the people on the
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floor. This has been going on for a
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long while, this topic. I remember in the tango scene,
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whenever there would be some travelling artists visiting,
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there would be often a very long table.
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In that table is where they would sit.
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So in that table, you know, all the go kids would gather with
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the teachers there and the artists in tango, they wouldn't
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social dance as much with everybody.
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It was mostly with the people on that table.
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So getting to that table, being invited to sit in that table, it
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was a big deal, you know, And in other Brazilian partner dances,
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because you have to go around on the floor, follow the line of
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the dance, you wouldn't have necessarily a area where they
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congregate on the floor and where they dance on the floor
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because people are going around, you know, But you know, the more
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to the outskirts of the circle they were, you know, the more
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experienced they are. And in Brazilian Zook, I would
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start by saying, in my understanding, my experience,
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the area of the DJ booth for me almost serves like a shield,
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like a force field, that once I step behind the DJ booth, I am
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not accessible anymore. Yeah.
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So if I want to rest or if an artist wants to rest or just
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chill, they position themselves behind the DJ.
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And because it's harder for you to go through the DJ and invite,
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the person should dance. And sometimes you just gather
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there. They're gathering with their
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friends, you know, watching people dance, having a good
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time. Normally they're friends with
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the DJ as well. And then exchange with the DJ.
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So that area becomes not only like a safe area, but also a
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gathering area. I remember when I was at
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interfusion one time in Washington, DC, I really wanted
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to go down to the floor, but just to hear the DJ playing was
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Vinnie that was playing. I was super tired.
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I was not really wanting to dance.
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I was really just wanting to listen to him play.
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I put my winter jacket, my boots, 'cause you know,
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Interfusions in January and I went down hoping that the winter
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jackets and the boots and the backpack would be enough to sort
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of send a message to people. Like I am not available to dance
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right now. So guys, I sat down in front,
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like on the side of the DJ booth, the DJ table was on a
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little stage. On the side of that stage, there
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was another table. I sat underneath the table,
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literally underneath the table. But even then, with my winter
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jackets and winter boots, people were coming to invite me to
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dance. And I was saying, no, I'm just
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resting, just listening to music, I'm watching, blah, blah,
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blah. And then it got your point that
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I was like, man, makes no sense. I need to either keep saying,
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oh, yeah, all the time and really work on my boundaries, or
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I can go up and sit. So I went up and I sit next to
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Vinnie on the DJ booth. And then it solved the problem.
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Or you have to leave at the moment that Vinnie left and I
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was by myself there and the other DJ started playing, I
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think I repositioned myself somewhere else.
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And then people started coming to invite me to dance one more
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time. So in that case, sitting next to
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Vinnie, sitting on the DJ booth, sitting behind the DJ booth, the
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DJ table, it was my way to show guys.
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I'm here just to enjoy, just to watch, not to dance.
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Not yet, you know, So I think these are the initial thoughts
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that I have about this topic. What about you was?
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Yeah, let me just connect with what you said there because
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there has been multiple times where I was trying to stretch or
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trying to take a break and I was literally on the floor, on the
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floor laying myself and stretching and doing things.
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And sometimes just there listening to the music and doing
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whatever was good for my back to feel better.
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And again, you get people requesting you to dance and they
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see that you're like twisted or you have a foam roller that
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you're there doing whatever you can to feel better.
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But that is not the worst part. I remember a few times where it
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was already, I'm saying 4-5 AMI was just waiting for a ride back
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to the hotel because some events they are not like inside of the
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hotel, right? So a lot of the times as
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artists, we have to wait either for a group to go back or we
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would have to wait for a van or have to wait for one of the
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organizers to organize somebody to take us back.
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And I was literally sleeping many times, sleeping in the
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artist room, jacket, backpack, all of the things, just
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sleeping. And somebody would go into the
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artist room 4 or 5:00 AM and go like, hey, Alison, we haven't
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danced yet. Do you want to dance now?
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And at that point, I'm like in shock, really?
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Is this happening? Am I dreaming?
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And I just look at them and I'm going like, look, I'm sorry, I'm
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actually sleeping. And I want to go back to the
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hotel. Let's dance tomorrow, please.
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At that point I was like, wow, one of the reasons, OK, one of
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the reasons why I personally feel more comfortable dancing
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near the DJ is because I'm such a shy and introverted person.
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The person that you see here or that you seen classes, that's
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the artist, OK, That is the persona that teaches.
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That is part of me, but that's not my natural self.
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When I'm in the social at the party, I don't go as an artist,
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as a teacher, as a podcaster. I go as the person, the natural
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self. So the natural self is naturally
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very shy, introverted, socially awkward, all of the things.
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So to me, being in that area makes me feel a little safer, a
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little more comfortable. I'm not trying to choose who I
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dance with or if I stay in that area.
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Only the best dancers are there. No, no, no.
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To me that does not cross my mind nowadays with whoever.
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But that positioning is more so then I feel safe, I feel more
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comfortable and I feel like I'm close to people that are my
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friends, which makes me feel a little more comfortable.
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And that is when it's like big, big festivals, big festivals
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when it's a Weekender or a social at a school, something a
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little smaller, I'll dance anywhere.
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I feel quite comfortable dancing in any area.
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But you know, guys, festivals, sometimes they're just too big
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for me. Anything above 200 people, 250
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people is already like too big. So that's when I see and I feel
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that people kind of like set their own camp in a different
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area, some closer to the DJ, some as far as possible from the
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DJ, and they're kind of like leaving their own little
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village. They don't go around the
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country, you know? So I think it's usually
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something that we see in larger festivals because of that.
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Now, lastly, if we're talking about convenience, well, I come
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into the room, I've got my water bottle or maybe a drink, and
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I've got my dance shoes because I don't wear my dance shoes
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outside. Maybe I have my backpack.
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I want to put somewhere that I know it's probably going to be
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safe, which is next to the DJ. So I walk there and I leave you
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there. Where do I put my drink?
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Where do I put my shoes? Right there too.
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And then we Just Dance there and then whenever I want to go home,
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it's there. Or in the social, if I want to
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have a break, there is that place for me to have a break.
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So it's kind of like the pit stop A lot of the times it's a
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place where you feel like, oh, I can just step out, take a little
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break, watch the room, and then step back in without feeling
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like it's a big shift. I feel like if I go into the
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other side of the room or somewhere else, I feel like I'm
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almost coming to the party again, like at the beginning.
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But if I just step in and out from that little area, I feel
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like I'm still in the party. I haven't left.
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OK, a little weird, I know, but hello, that's my brain.
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That's how I feel. And that's how I see that little
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area of the dance floor in larger events.
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I think there is something natural about you congregating
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around the people that you know, people that you have seen.
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And sometimes when we talk about the clicks and the clicks
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groups, the cool kids feelings and things, for me, I don't see
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it necessarily as a conscious active act of excluding other
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people. I just see sometimes people
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congregating around those who they know and imagine there's a
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group of people who all share the same profession and they
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sometimes don't normally gather in the same place because 1 is
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in Australia, the other one is in France, the other one is
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Spain. So sometimes when they get
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together in the same event, I think it's really natural to
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want to spend time together as much as possible.
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So it's this subconscious act of getting close to someone because
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you feel comfortable around that person.
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It's almost like you are in a different country and you're
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going around trying to, you know, flow without knowing how
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to speak the language. And then you find somebody that
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speaks your language, you're immediately like, Oh my gosh,
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relief. You know, there's this relief.
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And then you become best friends right away, you know, because
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there is this identity, there's identification that happens
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right there. So when people gather around
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certain areas of the dance floor, for me, there's a natural
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impulse of wanting to be close to those, you know?
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And as an artist, sometimes in big events, I have two different
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experiences. If I am teaching at that event
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or if I'm not teaching at that event, that also has a different
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impact. When I am teaching at the event,
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I would feel more comfortable to stay around the DJ booth.
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Almost like, oh OK, I am teaching here so I belong in
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this area around these people. But even then it's hard for me
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to get that close to the DJ booth.
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Imagine that in the area in front of the DJ there are like
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other sections. It almost in that chart that I
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don't know if you've ever seen this chart, but there is a chart
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of personal space. There's a person right here,
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there is a circle around, there's another circle around,
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there's another circle around, you know, so it's still around
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the person, but there are levels of closeness.
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And in the DJ booth there is something similar that I see.
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So sometimes I can see the DJ right there.
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I am close ish to the DJ booth, but I'm not in the hot zone, the
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splash zone. The splash zone sometimes is
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immediately in front and you see that that's the splash zone
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because normally that's where people are cheering, the artists
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are dancing. That's normally when you see the
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light if somebody is with a video.
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So that area becomes a very hot zone that at any moment can a
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camera pop up or there will be a lot of people watching me this
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with that person. I remember in the Taiwan Zook
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Festival, there was a moment that three artists, I think it
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was Kado Philippe and Alex two years ago, three years ago,
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don't remember right now, but they were all this at the same
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time and they started changing partners riding from the DJ
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booth. And man, people went crazy sort
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of filming. I didn't see it, but I could
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hear it and see like the light and stuff.
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But I was still on the dance floor in front of the DJ booth
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some. And you guys, Zuckerberg, know
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there's some big events because the space is too big.
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You have two dance floors, sometimes three dance floors in
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this little gap of carpets in between if it's in a big space.
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So I sometimes dance on that square, on that floor.
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That is the floor right in front of the DJ booth, not in French,
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but close to it. So I feel more, I don't know, I
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feel more safe this in there. Mostly there are more lights.
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It's not that dark. The sound is right there too.
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Sometimes on the other dance floors, it's too dark.
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I don't know. I'm not in the moment right now
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that I like to dance when it's too dark.
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I like to have more lights in the room.
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I like more lights in the room. When I'm not teaching, I stay
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further, further. It's still in the DJ area, but
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further because there was this really intense thing that
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happened inside of me that says no, you don't belong in that
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area in this event. So I position myself further
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away. Again.
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It's not like a super conscious process.
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It's just I get in the room and I move away from that area.
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And I'm joking. It's from time to time when I'm
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rooms are too large, I play with the Feng shui of the room.
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You know, like I don't know why, but I want to be in this area
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right here. I remember I was in Sydney and
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we had a big room to do the class.
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I had a big room to teach and everybody was staying in a
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corner of the room, but I didn't like that corner.
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No, no, the reason So bring people to a corner that I like
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to say, let's guys, let's come here.
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This area has a better functioning.
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So I remember another event that I went large ballroom.
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You get in, they did both on the left, on the right, just like
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free space with Dance force. I would get in and I would stay
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right there, right in that area that I got in.
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I wouldn't go to the left, I wouldn't go to the right, get
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in, put my stuff down and start dancing right there.
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Why? No idea, Just stay there.
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So what you said, Allison, about convenience is something that
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plays a role for me too, because sometimes I like to dance close
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to the door, close to the water, close to surfing.
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That will make my experience there more comfortable.
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And sometimes what makes the experience more comfortable is
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close to the DJ booth, but sometimes it's not.
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So that varies quite a lot. And last thing I want to say,
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and this is a little bit more personal, for a long time I
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avoided the area right in front of the DJ booth.
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I actively avoided because for a good amount of time I didn't
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feel that I belonged really, that I belonged in the cast of
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Brazilian zoo artists. There were some events that I
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was teaching that I didn't go in the artist room once.
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I was teaching in the event and I didn't go once because it was
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so hard for me to get in that room.
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And there was another event that I went once, but it was so hard
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for me to take me to that room because as soon as I open the
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door, they are all laughing, having a good time because
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they're all friends and I am the new kid.
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And like Allison said, super duper, duper shy.
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I've been in situations in which we were eating in the artist
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room. They were having such a good
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time and telling jokes, blah, blah, blah.
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And I was I got in, I ate in silence, I drink in silence and
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I left in silence. So the area in front of the DJ
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booth sometimes as an artist, as a person who is teaching
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residence zoo, in this moment of my life, it was an extension of
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the teachers room sometimes. So because I didn't feel like I
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belonged in the teacher room, I also by extension didn't feel
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like I belonged in the area right in front of the DJ books.
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Then that was for quite some time, you know.
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Something that I wanted to share.
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It's insane. OK, but when I was spending some
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time intentionally trying not to dance in front of the DJ booth
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for a while while I was traveling, doing world tours and
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going to a lot of festivals, I heard a lot of people talking
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about this issue. So I'm like, OK, let me try to
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do the right thing. I'm going to dance in different
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places of the dance floor for the next few festivals and I'm
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going to try to, you know, engage with as many people as
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possible instead of staying in that area.
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Here's the kicker, over those few weeks that I tried multiple
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times, the next day I had a good amount of people coming to me
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and saying, oh, what happened last night?
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You didn't come to the party? Are you OK?
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And I'm like, what? Yes, I was at the party.
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I was doing until the end. Like I was there from, I don't
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know, 11 to about 4:00 AM. Oh, really?
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I didn't see you. I'm like, well, where were you
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looking for me? Oh, I was looking for you like
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in front of the DJs where all the artists stay.
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And I'm like, no, now I'm trying to dance like everywhere,
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wherever else that is not that area.
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And you're like, oh, OK, maybe that's why I didn't.
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So there are many times that people were telling me that I
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didn't go to the party. And then I started getting to my
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head. I was like, wait, that is a
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problem. Because if people think that I'm
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not going to the party, people think that I'm being lazy or a
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superstar, that's going to affect my contracts, my
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exposure. All righty then, let's go back
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to the DJ booth area because if I'm not there, looks like I'm
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not actually in the social at all.
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So then I just went back to it because I was like, damn, I
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really tried to do the right thing but it backfired me.
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So yes, there is that. Yeah, that's fine.
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I can see that happening very much.
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It has happened to me and I just say no, I just in the court in
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that corner of almost because not many people would tell me
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this on the way out of a class or when we were still in the
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ballroom. I didn't see you yesterday and I
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was at the whole night. I know I was in that area over
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there, that corner over there. If you want to find me tonight,
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go over there. That's where I stay.
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There is like again, the functional of the room.
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There is an area that for some reason you want to stay.
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That's where you stay. And the other thing that I've
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been trying to do is I travel the floor.
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I travel the floor, I keep doing it at GM, go everywhere that I
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can so people can see I am around.
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But at the same time, it's more unpredictable where I'm going to
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be in the end. Which for me became a really
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good way. Or my mental health in the sense
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of, you know, when I finish the dance, there's not going to be
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all these people already wanting to dance with me like right
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away. Because when I move around, it
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just, you know, you play mind tricks with yourself.
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When you move around, you make yourself more really
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unpredictable. You know, people don't know
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where you're going to be unless they are watching and following
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you, which also happens, of course.
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But it's my way of feeling the space a little bit more.
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Not only feeling with my senses, but also feeling the sense of
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taking the space and use all the space available.
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There is one thing that happens with me too, is a big
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identification with those who are more shy, more shy to invite
26:49
people to dance. It took me two years, two whole
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years to create the courage to invite one of my instructors,
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one of my teachers to dance. And I remember counting to 10 so
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many times to go inviting her to dance.
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I remember how nervous I was to invite her to dance.
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So there is a huge connection that I feel with those who have
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a hard time when I'm going around the room.
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When I'm not just in one area, I sometimes see the same person,
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for example, stitching in that same area for some time.
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So every time I go around, that person is still there.
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Every time I go around, that person is still there.
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So it gives me the chance to also see who is having a hard
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time inviting people to dance for whatever reason, and someone
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that I can go to and invite to dance because I know the power
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that he has an invitation to dance.
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And sometimes that invitation that I make to people generates
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a ripple effect of positivity of that person's experience.
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In that event that happened in Brizuki, actually, I was walking
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around, there was this person sitting, walking around, this
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person sitting. And then eventually I finished
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the dance right in front of her. So all I did was turn around and
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invited her to dance. She was sitting on the floor.
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Most beautiful dance, Super incredible.
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We talked afterwards and it was like such a magical moment.
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Because for me it's just inviting so much of this, but
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for that person is so much more than that, you know?
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So that's another reason why I like to use the space that is
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available to me. Yeah, For me it's a conflict
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because in Weekenders and smaller events, I feel like,
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yeah, it won't matter, let's dance everywhere, everything is
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fine. But for the reasons I mentioned
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before, for me, in really, really large festivals, it's a
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little harder to go around. I think what I do remember
28:58
doing, for example, at Zook Heat, which is a beautiful event
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that happens around the Washington, DC area when I was
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there, the dance floor is huge and long.
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Like it's kind of one of those events that you may see your
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friend a few times over the weekend because there's so many
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people and the event is so big. What I would do is to start the
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dance around my comfortable area and then go around the room.
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And then maybe if the dance ends there and I find somebody else
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to dance, I'll keep going and like peek backing one dance
29:42
after the other as I go around the room.
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Or if the dance ends there away from the DJs and I don't feel
29:51
like dancing again, or I don't find somebody to dance, then
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I'll go back to the safe zone. So if like 1 connects to the
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other, I can keep going around. But as soon as there's like a
30:03
break because of music, because of myself or just whatever
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break, I feel like, OK, go back to the safe zone and then I can
30:12
start again. Because I feel like for me to
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start the whole process of dancing again somewhere else in
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the room, it almost feels like I just arrived at the party.
30:25
It feels like a cold start but if I start dancing around that
30:29
safe area it feels comfortable. It feels like oh OK I never left
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the party. So weird, but that's just how it
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feels for me. Yeah, and I think that's, in the
30:41
end of the day, something subconscious, subjective.
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You know, it's like you are in your house and you have your own
30:50
house that you put together, that you build, but it's still
30:52
in your house. You have a corner that you like
30:54
more than the other. You know, I like this area of
30:58
the house more than this area of the house.
30:59
Then you end up finding yourself in the same area over and over
31:03
again. I play with my mom, actually her
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house in real, it's 66 square meters per floor.
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So on the 1st floor 66 square meters.
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So it's like a good space. And if you don't understand
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meters, go look it up as you might see the inches and the
31:22
square feet and all this stuff. But she stays in this tiny
31:27
corner is like in the small square of the space between the
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kitchen, her room and the hallway from the living room
31:35
into the kitchen. She stays right there the whole
31:38
time. If somebody would do like a, you
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know, I don't know the name of these things, but the people who
31:44
do consulting services for stores, they map which area of
31:50
the store people stay longer and which area they walk more.
31:54
So like it, there is like a blueprint of the building.
31:57
Like a heat map? Heat map.
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Exactly. There's a heat map of where
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people stay the most in my mother's house.
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The heat map will be like so much that my whole hand is the
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floor and she stays right in this corner here.
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And I asked her why This house is big.
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It's so nice, delivery room is amazing.
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Everything is so good. Why are you staying in this area
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here? And she doesn't know how to
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explain. She says, oh, it's close to
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here. It's close to there for about so
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convenience, close to a room, close to the kitchen, big house,
32:29
but she stays right here. So I think it's similar for us.
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There's a big ballroom, ginormous ballroom, but we stay
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in this tiny area here. Why?
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I don't know. There are many reasons why and
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my invitation for you is now every event you go see where you
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are instinctively taken to what area of the ballroom you
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instinctively take yourself. I'm going to observe that of
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myself too for the next events that I'm going.
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Which area of the room am I going to stay and why?
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You know, so just so you feel this thing that you cannot
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explain really well, but gives you comfort to stay in that
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area. One last example, just to close
33:15
this episode, and I think this is going to relate to everyone.
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Remember, when you go to a dance class, don't you have that safe
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little space that you always go to?
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Because I see that on a weekly basis and I'll go like, why do
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you always stay there? Like, I don't know, maybe
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because it's closer to the bathroom, closer to the fan,
33:36
away from the fan, closer to the speaker, whatever.
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But we see our students always going to the same spot of the
33:45
class. And that's why I like, I try to
33:48
rotate sometimes the leaders, sometimes the followers to mess
33:51
with everybody up. And yeah, I mean, that's what it
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is. It's not personal, it's not, at
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least for us, it's not because we're choosing to dance with a
34:03
certain select group or trying to shield ourselves from the
34:08
rest of the people. Nothing like that, nothing like
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that. For us, it's very much our own
34:16
things that we're dealing with, and sometimes this feels
34:20
comfortable, sometimes this feels comfortable and we go for
34:23
that. It's not really a conscious
34:26
choice to divide or to separate ourselves from anything.
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And I believe that a lot of people who do that also don't do
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that in a very conscious way. They do it because they feel
34:38
natural doing it. But there are the clicks, the
34:44
groups, the star chasers, and that's a whole different episode
34:49
because that, yes, that is something that we should talk
34:53
about because, well, I'll just leave it like that just because
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there's a lot to talk about that.
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