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Mega Edition: Detective Hermosillo Gives Testimony During The Chad Daybell Trial (10/17/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. In
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  Speaker 1: this episode, we're gonna take a look at what went
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: down at the Chad Daybell trial on day number two
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: of testimony. And to do that, once again, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: use an article published by East Idaho News and authored
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  Speaker 1: by Nate Eaton. 8.31 a.m., back in the courtroom. Rexburg
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  Speaker 1: detective Ray Armacillo will be back on the stand this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Chad Daybell is sitting at the defense table in a
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  Speaker 1: dress shirt and red tie. Attorneys are meeting with Boyce
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  Speaker 1: in his chambers. 8.33 a.m. Madison County Prosecuting Attorney Rob
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  Speaker 1: Wood is expected to continue questioning Hermosillo. 8.38 a.m. Not
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  Speaker 1: as many people in the courtroom today. Three rows on
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  Speaker 1: one side of the room are empty. 8.39 a.m. Attorneys
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  Speaker 1: are back at their tables. Boyce is back on the
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  Speaker 1: bench and asks for jurors to be brought in. 8.42 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Jurors are in their seats. Hermosillo takes the stand. 8.46am.
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  Speaker 1: Wood picks up asking Hermosillo about where JJ's body was located.
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  Speaker 1: He uses a laser pointer to show the area of
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  Speaker 1: the pond. And it's almost like having deja vu, right?
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  Speaker 1: For those of you who followed the Lori Vallow trial,
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  Speaker 1: this is exactly what I expected. They're not going to
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  Speaker 1: deviate from their game plan too much here. They know
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  Speaker 1: that this is a winning strategy, and they know that
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  Speaker 1: they've already used this basic blueprint. to get a conviction
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  Speaker 1: of Lori Vallow. So why would they try and reinvent
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  Speaker 1: the wheel and get all kinds of crazy? What they're
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  Speaker 1: going to do is take the path that has been
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  Speaker 1: well-traveled and the path that definitely is going to lead them,
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  Speaker 1: in their mind anyway, to a conviction. 8.49 a.m. Wood
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  Speaker 1: asked to admit several exhibits. Hermosillo reviews them. They are
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  Speaker 1: photos showing Daybell's property and the west side of his house. 8.54 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: The first photo is displayed on the screen. It shows
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  Speaker 1: the front of Chad's house, and there is a vehicle
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  Speaker 1: parked in the driveway. Hermosillo points where he was standing
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  Speaker 1: and points where Chad was looking when he was on
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  Speaker 1: the phone in the car. And when you have a
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  Speaker 1: seasoned detective like Hermosillo, nothing's going to get by them, right?
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  Speaker 1: They've already seen it all. So if you're over here
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  Speaker 1: acting goofy, acting funky, chances are they're going to pick
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  Speaker 1: up on it. So when Chad's looking at this specific spot,
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  Speaker 1: It was a tell for Detective Hermosillo. 8.56 a.m. The
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  Speaker 1: next photo shows the fire pit on Daybell's property. Hermosillo
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  Speaker 1: says there was burned limbs and other debris in the area.
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  Speaker 1: The next picture shows the tree on the property and
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  Speaker 1: the pond area. 8.59 a.m. The next image is a
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  Speaker 1: close-up showing a grassy area above where JJ was buried.
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  Speaker 1: The next image shows a thin layer of dirt and
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  Speaker 1: you can kind of see one of the white rocks.
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  Speaker 1: would ask about the smell. Hermosillo says as soon as
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  Speaker 1: they removed the topsoil, he smelled a decomposing body. And again,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a seasoned detective, chances are you know what
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  Speaker 1: that smells like. And somebody who has Detective Hermosillo's experience, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: has dealt with plenty of decomposing bodies, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: that's a distinct scent that is not soon forgotten. 9.01 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: The next photo shows the white rocks at the burial site.
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  Speaker 1: The next photo shows the wood paneling under the white rocks.
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  Speaker 1: The next image shows wet soil found underneath the wood panels.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says once the paneling was removed, the odor became
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  Speaker 1: a lot stronger. 9.06 a.m. Wood asked for a sidebar.
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  Speaker 1: All the attorneys go with Boyce to his chambers. 9.07 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Attorneys are back. A new photo is displayed, and we
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  Speaker 1: see a tight-wrapped black plastic item that had been buried
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  Speaker 1: under some dirt. Hermosillo says it was not buried too deep.
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  Speaker 1: The next exhibit shows a white piece of plastic, and
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  Speaker 1: there is a little slit in the plastic. There is
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  Speaker 1: some brown human hair through the slit of the plastic.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just horrible to think about how these poor
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  Speaker 1: kids were killed. Their last few minutes, like I said earlier,
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  Speaker 1: with somebody they thought they could trust, somebody that they loved,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm sure they thought that Alex Cox loved them.
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  Speaker 1: And for me, it's a whole ass next level to
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  Speaker 1: do what Alex Cox did to these kids. But as
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  Speaker 1: disgusting as Alex Cox is, let's not forget he was
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  Speaker 1: acting on orders from Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell, allegedly. 9.09 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: The next image shows a small body wrapped in a
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  Speaker 1: plastic bag and duct tape. Hermosillo says the next exhibit
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  Speaker 1: shows the moist soil after JJ was lifted from the ground.
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  Speaker 1: This is body decomposition. The body had begun to break down.
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  Speaker 1: The detective says 9.12 a.m. Once the body was taken
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  Speaker 1: from the ground, Hermosillo assisted the coroner in putting J.J.
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  Speaker 1: in a body bag. The body was put into the
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  Speaker 1: coroner's car and it was driven to the morgue. Hermosillo
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  Speaker 1: and Lt. Ball followed the vehicle to the morgue. Once J.J.
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  Speaker 1: was placed in the morgue, the detectives went back to
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  Speaker 1: Chad's house. 9.13 a.m. The body was taken to Madison
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  Speaker 1: Memorial Hospital. When the detectives returned to Chad's house, we
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  Speaker 1: assisted in a second burial site, Hermosillo says. They went
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  Speaker 1: to the pet cemetery, and we knew from talking to
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  Speaker 1: family members that that pet cemetery had a little black
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  Speaker 1: dog statue next to a post. This evil, disgusting, rotten
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  Speaker 1: motherfucker buries this kid in the pet cemetery. Like this
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  Speaker 1: kid is just, you know, nothing more than a cat
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  Speaker 1: that they had taken in off the street that happened
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  Speaker 1: to die. It's truly hard to quantify what kind of
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  Speaker 1: evil scumbag you have to be to engage in this
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  Speaker 1: sort of shit. 9.15 a.m. Hermosillo says the evidence recovery
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  Speaker 1: team was removing soil near the fire pit. They used
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  Speaker 1: heavy equipment and then smaller hand tools to sift through
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  Speaker 1: the dirt. Hermosillo says they could only work for a
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  Speaker 1: few minutes because the smell was so bad. So nobody
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  Speaker 1: else noticed the smell out here, huh? None of Chad
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  Speaker 1: Daybell's kids that are going to take the stand in
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  Speaker 1: his favor in this trial, by the way. None of
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  Speaker 1: them noticed the smell. Okay, I guess. 9.17 a.m. Hermosillo
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  Speaker 1: says as they dug deeper, they found bone fragments and
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  Speaker 1: globs of burnt flesh starting to protrude through the dirt.
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  Speaker 1: The smell was awful. Everyone had a different task. As
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  Speaker 1: they dug deeper, they found something plastic and green. The
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  Speaker 1: ERT leader decided the crew was done for the day. 9.19 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Big light trucks were brought in and law enforcement secured
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  Speaker 1: the scene for the night. 9.20 a.m. Hermosillo says they
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  Speaker 1: returned the next day and started to dig again with
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  Speaker 1: little tools to find out exactly what we were going
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  Speaker 1: to take out of the ground. The team took turns
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  Speaker 1: because the smell was so bad. The green object started
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  Speaker 1: to take a roundish shape as they methodically removed dirt.
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  Speaker 1: At that point, we saw what appeared to be the
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  Speaker 1: shape of a green, melted bucket that appeared to have
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  Speaker 1: the remains of what we assumed was Tylee's charred and
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  Speaker 1: burned remains inside of the bucket. And not to get
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  Speaker 1: too graphic, but remember, these folks were digging through this
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  Speaker 1: dirt with these little tools so they didn't, you know,
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  Speaker 1: destroy any evidence. So they're down there basically on their
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  Speaker 1: hands and knees digging with their hands and these little tools.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how they were able to locate the remains
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  Speaker 1: of Tylee. But just think about doing that job for
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  Speaker 1: a Next thing you know, this is what you come across.
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  Speaker 1: You know when they say there's some jobs that you
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  Speaker 1: just don't want to do? In my opinion, a job
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  Speaker 1: like this is one of them. 9.23 a.m. Tylee's remains
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  Speaker 1: were put on a blue tarp. Hermosillo says the smell
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  Speaker 1: was horrendous. They were collected and put into a body bag.
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  Speaker 1: Tylee's remains were taken to the morgue and Hermosillo returned
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  Speaker 1: back to Chad's house. 9.26 a.m. We are about to
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  Speaker 1: get into graphic evidence. Boyce says it will not be
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  Speaker 1: shown to the public. in the courtroom or on the
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  Speaker 1: live stream, but the jurors will see it. These are
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  Speaker 1: exhibits Wood asked to admit. And honestly, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see those images. I'm good. You could just explain them.
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  Speaker 1: And even that is too much almost. It has to
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  Speaker 1: be a whole other ass kind of experience when it's
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  Speaker 1: your loved one that somebody's talking about inside of one
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  Speaker 1: of these courtrooms. All these pictures and it has to
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  Speaker 1: be almost surreal. And you have to ask yourself, how
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  Speaker 1: the hell did this even happen? How is this my
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  Speaker 1: new reality? But unfortunately, for countless people around the world,
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  Speaker 1: this is their new normal. And that's because there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sick bastards out there, folks. 9.30 a.m. We
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  Speaker 1: see the first photo, and it is of the pet cemetery.
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  Speaker 1: There are markers by the fire pit and some tarps
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  Speaker 1: on the ground. 9.31 a.m. Boyce says at this point
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  Speaker 1: it's appropriate to turn off public access. Boyce agrees. 9.32 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo describes the first photo. It shows the change in
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  Speaker 1: color of soil and charred dry bone. All the little
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  Speaker 1: pieces next to it are pieces of burnt flesh, tissue, organs.
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  Speaker 1: We later determined that were in the top of the
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  Speaker 1: inside of the bucket. And again, just a heads up,
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  Speaker 1: this stuff is pretty graphic that he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about. If it's anything like the Lori Vallow trial,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be graphic as hell. 9.34 a.m. Hermosillo
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  Speaker 1: describes the next picture. It is burnt flesh. still attached
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  Speaker 1: to some bone laid out on a blue tarp. It
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  Speaker 1: shows part of a hip bone that still has burnt
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  Speaker 1: flesh attached to it. Fatty, burned tissue, Hermosillo says. The
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  Speaker 1: jurors look at their screen. Chad looks at Hermosillo and
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  Speaker 1: the screen in front of him. 9.35 a.m. The next
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  Speaker 1: photo shows burned flesh inside the bucket. Hermosillo says. Pryor
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  Speaker 1: asks for a sidebar. They leave the courtroom and go
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  Speaker 1: into chambers. 9.37 a.m. Larry Woodcock is in the courtroom today,
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  Speaker 1: but Kay Woodcock is not. She did not attend court
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  Speaker 1: during Lori Vallow's trial last year on the days these
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  Speaker 1: photos were presented. And I don't blame her. The last
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  Speaker 1: thing I'd want to do is look at these kinds
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  Speaker 1: of photos of my loved one. I mean, my grandson,
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  Speaker 1: my nephew, whatever. Zero chance. Especially considering there's already been
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  Speaker 1: a trial when all of this evidence has been presented. 9.38 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Attorneys are back. Wood asked Hermosillo to describe the next photo.
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  Speaker 1: It shows part of a human skull. Next to the
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  Speaker 1: green bucket, there were teeth there in the dirt as well. 9.39 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo describes the next photo, which shows some tarps and
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  Speaker 1: hand tools that were used on the scene. The photo
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  Speaker 1: was taken after we got the mass out of the
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  Speaker 1: wet soil. 9.40 a.m. Wood shows Hermosillo the next picture.
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  Speaker 1: He says these are parts of Tylee when we tried
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  Speaker 1: to lift it out of the ground. There are pieces
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  Speaker 1: of skull, charred bones, and burned, rotting flesh attached to
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  Speaker 1: the bone, Hermosillo says. 9.41 a.m. Hermosillo says they followed
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  Speaker 1: Coroner Brenda Dye to the morgue. The morgue was secured
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  Speaker 1: and detectives decided to take the remains of JJ and
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  Speaker 1: Tylee to the Ada County Coroner's Office for an autopsy.
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  Speaker 1: The remains were dropped off around 8 or 9 p.m.
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  Speaker 1: on June 10th at the Ada County Coroner's Office, 9.44 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: The autopsy took place June 11th. Hermosillo says they had
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  Speaker 1: a debrief at the Coroner's Office. They then went to
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  Speaker 1: the room where the autopsies were performed, signed in, and
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  Speaker 1: put on white booties. The detectives then stood back against
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  Speaker 1: the wall while the autopsy took place. 9.46 a.m. The
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  Speaker 1: first body bag was brought out. The autopsy team opened
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  Speaker 1: it and revealed the black plastic wrapped body. The doctor
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  Speaker 1: cut down the plastic. JJ was wearing red pajama pants
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  Speaker 1: and shirts. His arms were folded across his body and
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  Speaker 1: there was duct tape from elbow to elbow. His ankles
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  Speaker 1: were bound with duct tape. He was wearing his pull-up diaper.
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  Speaker 1: He had black sketcher socks on. 9.48 a.m. Hermosillo says
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  Speaker 1: the skin appeared to be bluish green, black, and yellow. Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Warren then cut the white plastic bag that was around
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  Speaker 1: JJ's head with duct tape. It showed duct tape covering
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  Speaker 1: JJ's mouth, and there were several layers of duct tape
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  Speaker 1: from his arms. JJ's wrists were also bound with duct tape.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine? The last few moments of this kid's life?
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  Speaker 1: And that beaver-faced rat-fink-fuck Alex Cox? Looking at this poor kid,
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  Speaker 1: doing this to him, and then burying this kid the
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  Speaker 1: way he did? Like I said earlier, there's not a
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  Speaker 1: hell hot enough for somebody like Alex Cox. 9.50am. Once
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  Speaker 1: they removed the duct tape and the bag, Hermosillo realized
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  Speaker 1: it was JJ based on photos he had seen. JJ's
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  Speaker 1: clothing was removed. and Dr. Warren pointed out some bruises
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  Speaker 1: on his arms, ankles, and chest. There were scratch marks
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  Speaker 1: on the left side of his neck just under the
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  Speaker 1: duct tape. At that point, Dr. Warren and his team
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  Speaker 1: performed the autopsy. 9.52 a.m. Wood asked to admit more photos.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says they show J.J. Vallow lying on the table
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  Speaker 1: after the autopsy team cut open the black plastic bag.
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  Speaker 1: All of these are graphic in nature. They will not
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  Speaker 1: be published or shown on the court live feed or
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  Speaker 1: to the public in the courtroom, Boyce says. Jurors will
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  Speaker 1: see the images. 9.55 a.m. Hermosillo describes the first image.
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  Speaker 1: It shows duct tape wrapped around J.J. 's face. The
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  Speaker 1: level of duct tape on his arms is what really
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  Speaker 1: caught my attention. J.J. had a white and blue child's
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  Speaker 1: blanket wrapped around him, several jurors looking at their screens,
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  Speaker 1: others taking notes. 9.56 a.m. The next photo shows JJ
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  Speaker 1: on the table, soaked in body decomposition, Hermosillo says. 9.57.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo describes more graphic photos that show JJ's body, face,
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  Speaker 1: wrapped in duct tape. 9.59 a.m. Boyce asks for a
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  Speaker 1: brief sidebar with counsel. He says we will now take
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  Speaker 1: a morning recess. We will be back around 10.30. 10.22 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: We are now back in the courtroom. Several spectators notice
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  Speaker 1: Chad Daybell shaking his head. When the graphic photos were
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  Speaker 1: shown before the break, one lady who was watching chat
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  Speaker 1: closely told me it looked like he had never seen
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  Speaker 1: the images before. 10.32 a.m. Boyce is on the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Jurors are brought back in. 10.34 a.m. The jury has
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  Speaker 1: been seated. Wood continues to question Hermosillo about JJ's autopsy.
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  Speaker 1: When the autopsy was concluded, Dr. Warren and his team
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  Speaker 1: removed JJ from the autopsy table. They brought out a
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  Speaker 1: second black body bag. It was Tylee's remains. 10.36 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Warren opened the body bag and said there was nothing
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  Speaker 1: he could do with the remains. He could not conduct
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  Speaker 1: an autopsy. Now think about that. That's how far gone
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  Speaker 1: the remains were. And it just goes to show you
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  Speaker 1: the callous manner in which these children were treated. 10.38 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo and Ball went back to the Ada County Coroner's
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  Speaker 1: Office on June 12th. They picked up some evidence and
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  Speaker 1: took it to the state lab in Meridian. The items
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: were checked into the lab. 10.39 a.m. Hermosillo says as
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  Speaker 1: Rexburg police were investigating JJ and Tylee, the Fremont County
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Office was investigating the death of Tammy Daybell, Rexburg
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  Speaker 1: and Fremont worked together. 10.41 a.m. Hermosillo says they became
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  Speaker 1: aware of the Fremont County investigation and it was important
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  Speaker 1: because the suspects in the case were the same suspects
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  Speaker 1: in the missing kid case. At this point, we were
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  Speaker 1: still looking for two small children, So it was imperative
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  Speaker 1: to us that we shared information and gathered information from
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  Speaker 1: neighboring counties and anybody that was involved in this case.
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  Speaker 1: And whenever you have a missing kid, that's usually the
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  Speaker 1: standard practice, right? Going to share information, different counties, going
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  Speaker 1: to see if anybody's seen this kid, etc., etc. 1043 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Wood asked Hermosillo if he is familiar with Charles Vallow.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says yes. He was shot by Alex Cox, Lori's brother,
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  Speaker 1: on July 11, 2019. 10.45 a.m. Wood asked about the
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  Speaker 1: Jeep that law enforcement in Arizona were looking for. He
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: said the Jeep was used in the attempted homicide of
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Brandon Boudreau, the former nephew-in-law of Lori Vallow. 10.46 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Hermosillo explains that on October 9, 2019, Tammy Daybell, believed
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  Speaker 1: she was shot at in her driveway. She initially reported
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  Speaker 1: it was possibly a paintball gun. 10.49 a.m. Wood moves
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  Speaker 1: to admit an exhibit showing a key figure in the case.
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  Speaker 1: It shows Lori, Charles, Alex, Tylee, JJ, Chad, Tammy, and
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  Speaker 1: Melanie Palowski. 10.51 a.m. Hermosillo also prepared a timeline on
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  Speaker 1: the case. Wood asked to admit it. Boyce asked for
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a sidebar. All the attorneys leave the courtroom with the judge. 10.57 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is back. There is an evidentiary issue that needs
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: to be resolved and the jury is being dismissed and
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  Speaker 1: Boyce is going into his chambers to do some legal research.
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  Speaker 1: 11 a.m. Chad has a laptop in his reading and scrolling.
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  Speaker 1: He was given a laptop in the Fremont County Jail
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  Speaker 1: to review evidence in preparation for trial. I'm told there
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: was no internet access. 11.28 a.m. Boyce is back on
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  Speaker 1: the bench. He had to go back and review some
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: rulings in the case. From some time ago, he is
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  Speaker 1: now going to rule on an exhibit outside of the
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  Speaker 1: presence of the jury. 11.34 a.m. The parties are discussing
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  Speaker 1: some objections and rulings filed in the case last year
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: regarding 404B arguments. This would be in relation to the
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  Speaker 1: death of Charles Vallow and the shooting of Brandon Boudreau. 11.35 a.m.
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  Speaker 1: Pryor is no longer objecting to the exhibit, so it
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  Speaker 1: will be admitted. Boyce will also read instructions to the
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: jury later. about 404B. 11.37 a.m. Jurors are brought back
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  Speaker 1: into the courtroom. Hermosillo reads from the timeline. It begins
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  Speaker 1: in July 2019 with the deaths of Charles Vallow. September
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  Speaker 1: 2nd and 3rd, 2019, Lori, Alex, and the kids move
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  Speaker 1: to Rexburg. Last known proof of life for Tylee is
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  Speaker 1: September 8th, 2019. Last known proof of life for JJ
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  Speaker 1: is September 22nd, 2019. Attempted homicide of Brandon Boudreau is
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: October 2nd, 2019. Attempted shooting of Tammy Daybell is October 9th, 2019.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Death of Tammy is October 19th, 2019. All just a coincidence, huh?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: None of that stuff lines up. None of that stuff
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: has anything to do with Chad Daybell. 1141 AM. The
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: second half of the timeline shows the dates the bodies
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: were recovered, taken to coroner, etc. Wood finishes his questions.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: John Pryor will now conduct cross-examination on Hermosillo. 11.43 a.m.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks Hermosillo how he should be referred to, officer
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: or lieutenant. Hermosillo says lieutenant. Pryor asks Hermosillo about a
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: number of witnesses he has interviewed, including Melanie Gibb and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: David Warwick. And when I say miscreants, this is exactly
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: who I'm talking about. All these people that were hanging
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: out at these little functions going on podcasts together. Don't
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: tell me you folks had no idea what the dealio was.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Don't tell me that these idiots weren't talking this nonsense
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: to you. You know they were. And frankly, I wouldn't
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: have been mad to see. Oh, that's right. You know
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm going to say. A Rico case here. 1145 a.m.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Pryor asked Hermosillo if he's supposed to remain neutral during
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: an investigation. He says yes. You're supposed to look at
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: all of the evidence. Pryor says he asked Hermosillo what
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: they do with the evidence. Hermosillo says they follow the
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: evidence and put a case together. 11.46 a.m. Hermosillo confirms
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: his role is to put together their investigation and hand
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the case over to the prosecutor. Pryor asks about prosecutors
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: showing up at investigations and Hermosillo says that's happened before.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says it's important for prosecutors to have all the information. 11.50 a.m.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Prior pivots and asks about body cameras. Hermosillo says all
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the detectives share a body camera. Prior asks what the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: policy is for recording interviews. Hermosillo says interviews are recorded
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: at the police station. 11.52 a.m. Prior asks about the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: day Hermosillo and his colleagues went to Lori Vallow's apartment.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Prior asks why they went. Hermosillo says it was for
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a welfare check. The detectives went out at different times.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Pryor says none of them decided to bring a video
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: camera or a recorder. Nobody took out their phone and
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: made a video or audio recording of the discussion of Mr.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Daybell or Mr. Cox, right? Hermosillo says that's correct. 11.53 a.m.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Pryor asked Hermosillo about his request to get Lori's phone
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: number from Alex and Chad. Pryor asks if Ever made
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: any threats. Wood objects. Pryor launches another question. Boyce tells
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: him to hold on. Mr. Pryor, when there is an objection,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to rule on it. Objection sustained. Pryor continues
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: his questions. 11.57 a.m. Hermosillo explained he had to ask
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Chad twice to get Lori's phone number. Pryor asks Hermosillo
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: about the paintball gun incident. Pryor asks Hermosillo if he's
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: had a chance to look at all the evidence in
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the case. Hermosillo says he has. Pryor fiddling with his
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: computer to get the exhibit shown. 12.00 noon. Pryor asks
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: if Hermosillo has seen all the evidence in relation to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Tammy Daybell's death. Hermosillo says yes. Pryor shows on the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: screen the Facebook post Tammy wrote about the paintball incident
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: in her driveway. 12.03 p.m. Pryor refers to the Facebook
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: post as an email. Wood objects, says it's not an email.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Boyce asks Pryor to clarify. Pryor says it's a text
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: message that went to members of the Salem Third Ward.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Wood objects, saying it's not a text message. Boyce overrules
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the objection. 12.05 p.m. Pryor asks if Hermosillo looked at
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the search engine for Tammy Daybell's account. Hermosillo says he
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: did not. Pryor asks if he spoke with Officer K,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I believe he means Kyle Kamana, Pryor can't pronounce his name,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: about the search history. He then moves on to where
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Alex Cox was at the time of the shooting. 12.07 p.m.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks Hermosillo about the Dodge Dakota Tammy got out of.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Pryor says if Chad Daybell had been driving the vehicle,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: what Alex Cox had been trying to shoot Chad. Hermosillo
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: says Tammy Daybell called 911. Chad didn't. 12.10pm. We are
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: having an hour lunch break. We'll be back around 1.10pm. Alright,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: so this is where we're going to wrap up as well.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And in the next episode, we'll pick up where we
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: left off with this first session. All of the information
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: description box. What's up everyone and welcome back to the program.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: In this episode we're going to pick up where we
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: left off with the testimony of Detective Hermosillo up in
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Idaho during day number two of the Chad Daybell trial.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Once again we'll be using eastidahonews.com and the author of
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: this article is Nate Eaton. 1 11 p.m back in
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the courtroom John Pryor will continue to cross-examine Detective Hermosillo.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Pryor talks very fast, so I will try to keep up.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Even when Wood lodged objections, Pryor plowed through and Boyce
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: had to tell him a few times to wait on
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: the ruling. 1.12 p.m. The prosecutors are at their table
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and Pryor is at his. Chad Daybell is smiling as
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: he and Pryor chat. Must be nice to sit here
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and crack a smile, considering the graphic nature of that evidence.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Pretty sure those jurors aren't smiling, Chad Daybell. 1.19 p.m.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Boyce is back on the bench. The jurors are being
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: brought in. 1.21pm. Pryor says he's going to take his time.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: The judge has admonished me enough at this point. I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: think I got the point. We're going to slow down
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit at this point, he says. 1.22pm. Pryor
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: says we don't know who is driving the Dodge Dakota.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says that's correct. Pryor jumps back to June 9th
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: and asked about Daybell leaving the scene of his house
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: at a high rate of speed. Hermosillo says Daybell didn't
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: take off in the Dodge Dakota. It was another vehicle.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And of course, the strategy here is to try and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: throw enough doubt into the mix so that the jurors
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: might think that Chad Daybell had nothing to do with
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: any of this and that it was all Alex Cox
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: and Lori Vallow. That could be what they're shooting for,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: though I doubt it's going to be successful. Now, one
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: thing I will say about Mr. Pryor here is that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: at least he's already seen the blueprint of how the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: state plans to prosecute his client. And that blueprint was
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: laid out in stark detail during Lori Vallow's trial, 1.25 p.m.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Pryor asking about Alex Googling what type of caliber was
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: needed to shoot at a Dodge Dakota. Pryor says we
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: don't know who Alex's target was, but it was likely
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: someone that owned the vehicle. Hermosillo says, correct. 1.26 p.m.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo can't recall the date Alex Googled the terms. Pryor
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: says he will take the liberty and help you out
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit. 1.28 p.m. Pryor displays an exhibit showing
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the date Alex Googled the terms. It was October 12, 2019,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: three days after a paintball incident. Pryor asks if this
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: was the only time a Google search was done. Hermosillo
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: says on the evening of October 9, 2019... Alex googled
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: how to make an AR function in cold weather. So
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: not only was this dude out here allegedly committing these crimes,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: he's googling about it, leaving a trail, going to these
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: different shooting ranges, just a whole host of stupidity that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Alex Cox left in his wake that ties him directly
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to these murders. And there is no doubt in my mind,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: as I've said since the Lori Vallow trial at this point,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: that Alex Cox is the one who actually did the
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: wet work and killed those kids. 1.30 p.m. Pryor asks
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo about Alex having a habit of googling a lot
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: of things. Hermosillo says he can't answer that. Pryor asks
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: about Alex googling the Hannibal Lecter thing. Hermosillo says he
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: is not aware of that. Boyce reminds Pryor to stay
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: by the microphone. 1.31 p.m. Pryor shows another exhibit that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: shows Alex googled sharpening swords three days after Tammy Daybell died.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: On October 23rd, he googled 15 facts about Silence of
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: the Lambs you didn't know. Pryor asks Hermosillo if he
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: recalled that search. Hermosillo does not. 1.33 p.m. Pryor is
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: moving from one thing to another. He's now asking Hermosillo
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: if he did a check on all the guns and
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: knives found in Alex's garage. Hermosillo says he did not.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and isn't sure how to do a search on knives.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Pryor says, I don't either. I don't either. Well, I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: doubt there is a way to do a search on knives.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: There's no background check. Anyone could walk into a store
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and buy a knife. So trying to track one of
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: those down, very difficult, as we have seen in the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Brian Kohlberger case. 1.35 p.m. Pryor now asks Hermosillo, who
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: is charged in the death of Charles Vallow? Hermosillo says
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Lori Vallow. Pryor asks if he's aware Chad Daybell is
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: not charged in Maricopa County. Hermosillo says he is. Pryor
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: asks Hermosillo if he's aware Chad Daybell is not charged
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: in connection to the Brandon B shooting. Hermosillo says he is.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: So basically trying to set it up that Chad is just,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you know, a shrinking wallflower. He had nothing to do
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: with any of this and he was just led astray
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: by a woman who He fell head over heels for.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's what Pryor is trying to infer here. Unfortunately for
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Pryor and for Daybell, the evidence tells us something completely different. 1.47pm.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Now Pryor jumps to J.J. Vallow and his last known
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: proof of life. He mentions Tylee Ryan's last known proof
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: of life. He says there was a 16-day gap between
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the two deaths. Pryor asks about J.J. being at Lori's
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: home on September 22nd. Lori, JJ, Melanie Gibb, and David
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Warwick were there. Lori, Melanie, and David were recording a
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: religious podcast. Pryor says the allegation is JJ was acting
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: up and Alex took JJ into a separate apartment. Well, yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. And all of these adults that
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: sat there and let it go down, they can all
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: get fucked as far as I'm concerned. I don't care
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: if it's your friend, your uncle, your niece, whatever. If
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you think a kid's in jeopardy, you have to act.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Call child services, whatever it is. Unfortunately, all of these
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: people had the same outlook on life as Lori Vallow's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: disgusting skafooza ass and Mr. Stunaud. Oh yeah, they were
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: all into the whole prophecy thing, right? Oh, the Angel
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Moroni's coming. This one's coming. That one's coming. Vafangul. Nobody's
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: coming to save you. You can't even save yourself. 1.50 p.m.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks who was in the apartment of September 23rd, 2019.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says Warwick, Gibb, and Lori Vallow were there. Hermosillo
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: says within two hours, JJ was buried on Chad Daybell's property. 1.51 p.m.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Pryor brings up phone calls. Hermosillo had with Melanie Gibb.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: He said Hermosillo interviewing David Warwick and Melanie Gibb in Provo, Utah. Hermosillo,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a lieutenant, and Rob Wood went down for the interview.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Pryor asked if the conversation was recorded. Hermosillo says the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: very beginning wasn't. The recorder malfunctioned, but the majority of
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the interview malfunctioned. Pryor says the recording was around 22 minutes.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says that doesn't sound right. They were there for, oh,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: about an hour. 1.54 p.m. Hermosillo says he doesn't know
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: exactly how long the interview was and how long the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: recording is. Wood objects and says this is beyond the scope.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Boyce says we are way beyond the scope of direct examination.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Pryor says this will be revisited at another time when
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo is called back to the stand. 1.56 p.m. Pryor
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: asks about JJ being found in red pajamas and sketcher socks.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks If J.J. wearing red pajamas when he was
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: carried upstairs by Alex Cox. Hermosillo says, I don't know.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Pryor says he will save the rest of his questions
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: when Hermosillo is recalled. Pryor is done. Wood will now redirect. 1.58 p.m.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Wood will now redirect. He asked Hermosillo who Chad Daybell
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: was with when Hermosillo first met Chad. Alex Cox. Wood
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: asks the detective if Chad looked afraid of Alex Cox.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Hermosillo says no. You see what they're doing here, right?
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Setting Alex Cox up as the fall guy. I mean,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: not a bad idea to blame somebody who's dead and
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: can't defend themselves, but this shit right here is dead
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: on arrival. Nobody's buying this. You jackwagons were all working
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: together as part of a conspiracy. You're all guilty, in
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: my opinion. 1.59 p.m. Wood asked about the initial scope
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: of the investigation when Hermosillo began investigating. It was about
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the Jeep. Wood shows the timeline on the screen and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: asks about the paintball incident. Wood asks Hermosillo why he
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't believe it was a paintball gun. Hermosillo says through
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: their investigation, they learned that Alex Cox was on Chad
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Daybell's property the morning Tammy Daybell was shot at. He
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: says the night Tammy Daybell was shot, it was a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: colder evening and Alex Googled how to make an AR
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: function in cold weather. 2.01 p.m. Hermosillo asks to look
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: at his notes. He's allowed to look at them, but
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: he can't testify from them. 2.02 p.m. Hermosillo says the
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: morning of the shooting, Alex was driving up and down
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the road on Daybell's property and also on the property.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: On October 10th, he googled how to make your AR
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: function in cold weather. Hermosillo says that is why they
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: believe it wasn't a paintball gun. We believe Alex Cox
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: was there to shoot Tammy Daybell. And it's just bananas
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that anyone would think that they'd get away with that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Does he really believe, or did he believe, that if
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: he shot Tammy Daybell, that was going to be the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: end of it? Everybody was just going to be like, ah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: you know what? Can't figure this one out. Not going
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: to solve this crime. Zero chance. A lady gets shot
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: in her front yard? Oh yeah, people are going to
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: be looking for the culprit. And considering Mr. Beaverface over here,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Alex Cox, isn't a mastermind criminal, I'm pretty sure they'd
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: have no problem putting two and two together. and finding
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: out who was responsible, just like they're doing here. 2.04 p.m.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Wood asks if the fact that Tammy died 10 days
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: after the incident had any bearing on whether or not
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: he believed it was a paintball gun. Hermosillo says yes.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Wood asks if the fact Chad got married 17 days
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: after Tammy died had a bearing on his belief that
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: it was a paintball gun. Hermosillo says yes, like every
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: other logical person on the planet. 2.05 p.m. Hermosillo says,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: based on all of the events of not finding the kids,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: not being able to get a hold of anyone, the
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: timeline of the deaths and marriage of Chad and Lori,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: all of it played into it. Hermosillo says Alex Cox
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: died in December of 2019. Wood asks if any time
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: after Alex Cox died, did Chad call Rexburg police to
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: report there were missing kids? Hermosillo says no. Yeah, well,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that's because he was in on it. That's because Alex
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Cox was acting... On Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow's commands. 2.07 p.m.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Wood asked Hermosillo what was the first thing he asked
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Chad when they met the first time. Hermosillo says that
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: he asked when was the last time he saw JJ Vallow.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Chad responded with October. Wood asked about Hermosillo asking Chad
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: for Lori's phone number. Chad responded that he didn't know
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Lori's cell. 2.09 p.m. Pryor asks about Hermosillo testifying about
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the whereabouts of Alex Cox on Chad Daybell's property on
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: October 9th. Pryor asks if they looked at all of
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Alex's phone records for the day. Hermosillo said there were
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: more interested in the time frame of when the incident happened. 2.10 p.m.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Pryor asks about metadata in Alex Cox's cell phone. Hermosillo
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: says Alex's phone was not on Chad's property during the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: paintball shooting incident. 2.11 p.m. Pryor asks how long Chad's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: driveway is. Hermosillo says he can't testify to that. Pryor
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: asks if it's 50 yards. Hermosillo says maybe 20 to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: 30 yards. Pryor has nothing further. 2.12 p.m. Lieutenant Hermosillo
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: is released from the stand. He remains under subpoena to
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: be recalled, and Boyce tells him he cannot review any
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: testimony of the trial. 2.13 p.m. Wood asks for a sidebar.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: All the attorneys leave the courtroom. 2.15 p.m. A few
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: jurors and people in the gallery, including yours truly, stand
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: and stretch their legs. These wood benches are hard. Daybell
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: sits motionless at the defense table. 2.20 p.m. The attorneys
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: are at their table and Boyce is back at the bench.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: The judge wants to clarify that exhibits were admitted today. 2.22 p.m.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Boyce says jury selection went quicker than anticipated, so the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: next witness is not here. We are dismissing for the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: day and no court tomorrow. Court will resume Monday at 8.30 a.m.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: So that's where things stand as of now, folks. That's
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the whole first week of proceedings. And next week, when
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the proceedings start once again, we'll get right back to it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: But for now, that's going to do it for this one.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: be found in the description box.