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  Speaker 1: Dari Noka joining us, the SEC Network to talk college
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  Speaker 1: football and alcoholic beverages. Dari, do you go daiquiri or
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  Speaker 1: pina colada ever?
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  Speaker 2: Pina colada all day over a daiquiri. All day over
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  Speaker 2: a daiquiri. There you go. On a vacation, somewhere around
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  Speaker 2: a pool or an ocean, you know, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No Phoenix a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot all day, man.
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  Speaker 2: I want to jump in on one other thing. Whatever's
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  Speaker 2: going on in the studio, you're not talking about like
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  Speaker 2: somebody making a mess, right? You're talking about the conversation
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  Speaker 2: in the studio. Is that what you're getting at? Cause
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  Speaker 2: I got my own story.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you got it.
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  Speaker 1: I need to hear your, I need to hear your story.
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  Speaker 2: So, So now I thought you, when you said what
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  Speaker 2: happened to our studio, I thought somebody had made a
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  Speaker 2: mess in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: No, it actually stays messy, actually.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. A little known fact here. And if he's listening,
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  Speaker 2: he probably won't, he'll probably laugh if I say this.
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  Speaker 2: Peter Burns, messiest guy I've ever known. I will walk
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  Speaker 2: into our studio after he leaves the studio at the
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  Speaker 2: FCC Network. There will be cups that are partially full
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  Speaker 2: of water. There will be used, you know, those little
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  Speaker 2: toothbrushy things or little dental floss things. There'll be sitting
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  Speaker 2: on a little table there next to us. Man, we
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  Speaker 2: joke about how we got to clean up after our guy,
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  Speaker 2: Peter Burns. But knowing that you all live with a
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  Speaker 2: messy studio, then everybody's to blame. So, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: just threw him under the bus.
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  Speaker 1: You've got one specific violator.
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  Speaker 3: I think I've seen your guy, Doreen, complaining about Burns
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  Speaker 3: being messy on Twitter before.
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  Speaker 2: Probably have. He's messy as hell, there's no doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, he's an LSU fan. You're lucky he doesn't leave
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  Speaker 1: corndog sticks all over the studio. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: If we had corndogs in the studio, he would.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some college football here. We talk drinks,
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  Speaker 1: we talk messy co-workers. Let's talk college football. I was
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  Speaker 1: mentioning this earlier, Dari, ESPN, I think it's Heather Dinnich
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  Speaker 1: that does it like each week now. the college playoff
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  Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, you know, projection type thing.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And I get into the, I know it's way early.
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  Speaker 1: I get into this stuff. I can't help myself. And
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  Speaker 1: it's got six SEC teams on there. How do you
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  Speaker 1: feel when it's all said and done? If what would
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  Speaker 1: be your guess? Five was kind of my stab at it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what would be your guess for SEC playoff teams when
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  Speaker 1: it's all said and done?
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  Speaker 2: I think four or five, 16 is really aggressive. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think we're going to end up in a, in
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  Speaker 2: a league where we might have, one team with one
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  Speaker 2: loss overall. I think, you know, you two or three
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  Speaker 2: that have two losses, I think if we get six,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get multiple three-loss teams, which seems... unlikely,
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  Speaker 2: given that we haven't had a three-loss game yet, get
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  Speaker 2: into the college football playoff. At least I don't think
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  Speaker 2: we did last year. So I know Texas was close
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  Speaker 2: with three losses. I know South Carolina a couple years
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  Speaker 2: back was close, and Ole Miss was close. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think anybody's gotten in. Heck, Vanderbilt didn't get in last
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  Speaker 2: year at 10-2. But I think we've got a league,
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  Speaker 2: and we've already seen it. At the end of this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: we're already going to have, at most, two teams left
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  Speaker 2: without a conference loss. And it will be October 10th. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're seeing a world where teams are beating
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  Speaker 2: everybody up, leading to probably more three-loss teams than we
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  Speaker 2: would be comfortable with if we're thinking we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get a half-dozen teams in the playoffs. So I'd say
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  Speaker 2: four or five, Matt, probably.
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  Speaker 3: Darian, a national question before some more SEC talk here,
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  Speaker 3: because we're talking all about the SEC playoff teams and
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  Speaker 3: the Big Ten. Well, we've also got Miami in the ACC,
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame independent. Who have you been most impressed with
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  Speaker 3: so far of those two teams right there at the
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  Speaker 3: start of the year?
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  Speaker 2: Neither has really played much of anybody. So it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to make too much of a judgment. But I think
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  Speaker 2: Darian Minson, Malachi, Tony, just you look at those two alone.
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  Speaker 2: and then obviously what they can do on defense. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: only one team played them even remotely close, and that
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  Speaker 2: was Wake Forest, who I think is a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: football team. Notre Dame also has been completely untested. I'm
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  Speaker 2: kind of trying to hold out too much judgment on
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  Speaker 2: either of those two until they play one another. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're really good. I mean, obviously they'll play each
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  Speaker 2: other later in the year. Notre Dame has to go
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  Speaker 2: to BYU, which I think will be an interesting test,
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  Speaker 2: but So far, neither has been tested, but that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of been what should have been the case given the
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  Speaker 2: schedule they played.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking football with Dari Noka, ESPN, SEC Network. Dari, Georgia, Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: This is freaking going to be amazing on Saturday night. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: Bama's had their success, but last time out in the
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  Speaker 1: SEC title game, Georgia got them. What's your feeling on
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  Speaker 1: this game?
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  Speaker 2: My feeling is a hell of a game, Mac. My
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  Speaker 2: feeling is, you know, and I think it depends. One, Georgia,
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  Speaker 2: how well do you defend the big play? Because Keelan
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  Speaker 2: Russell and his group of receivers, Lazier Brooks and Ryan
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  Speaker 2: Coleman Williams, and you go down the list, that's a
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  Speaker 2: big play waiting to happen. Keelan Russell's a star. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's a star. I think most people thought he would
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  Speaker 2: and were surprised that that competition wouldn't as late as
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  Speaker 2: it did into the fall before he was named the
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  Speaker 2: starter over Austin Mack. Not knocking Austin Mack. Keelan's just different.
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  Speaker 2: And they have really, really made A in the big play.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I– if Georgia can slow that down,
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  Speaker 2: make Alabama have to beat them on the ground. And
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  Speaker 2: Bama's a good run team, too. They're way impressed. Much
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  Speaker 2: better this year than they were a year ago. But
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  Speaker 2: that's Georgia's chance. For Georgia, I don't– I think they're
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  Speaker 2: going to want to and have to really kind of
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  Speaker 2: control things on the ground to some degree and hit
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  Speaker 2: the occasional play through the air. But what they can do.
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  Speaker 2: I think if this is a lower-scoring game, I would
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  Speaker 2: give Georgia the advantage. If the winner gets into the
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  Speaker 2: high 20s or 30s, I think Alabama wins it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: leaning Alabama right now because I do think they'll be
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  Speaker 2: able to hit one or two of those plays over
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  Speaker 2: the top that kind of is the backbreaker for Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: Daria, I don't think anyone takes any joy or pride
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  Speaker 3: or anything in having to talk about Shane Beamer because
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  Speaker 3: of the person that he is and how he represents
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  Speaker 3: himself and all around him. But why do you think,
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  Speaker 3: not just, we know he's on the hot seat, but
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  Speaker 3: why do you think it's been such a struggle for
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  Speaker 3: him to find consistency? There's been some great moments. There's
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  Speaker 3: been some woe woes. Why is it so hard for
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  Speaker 3: them to sort of find a middle ground at consistency?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's going to be judged ultimately by
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  Speaker 2: the lack of development of Lenore Sellers and the lack
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  Speaker 2: of development in that offense. And the Mike Shula hire
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  Speaker 2: set him back a ways. It was a bad hire.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people at the time thought
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  Speaker 2: it was going to be a bad hire, and it
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  Speaker 2: turned out to be the case. You know, I do
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  Speaker 2: think Kendall Bryles is a good hire, but we haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen the development of Lenore Sellers. And in the end,
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  Speaker 2: to some degree, I think Shane's going to be tied
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  Speaker 2: to Sellers because I think you could make the case that, like,
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  Speaker 2: Lenore Sellers should have been the best quarterback that has
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  Speaker 2: ever worn that uniform, that has ever stepped through that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the gates of Williams-Rush wearing a Gamecock uniform.
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  Speaker 2: And it just has not materialized. And I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what he'll end up doing in the NFL or if
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  Speaker 2: he'll end up, you know, doing anything in that league,
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  Speaker 2: but his lack of development, I think ultimately is what
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  Speaker 2: has really hurt Shane Beamer. And I hate to see
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  Speaker 2: that because he'll get fired and he'll land somewhere on
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  Speaker 2: his feet. Maybe not as a head coach, but even
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  Speaker 2: if it's a special teams coordinator and offensive assistant or somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: so he'll end up on a, on a big time
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  Speaker 2: staff somewhere and he'll get a chance somewhere else to coach. But, um,
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  Speaker 2: I think ultimately you look at that, just they could
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  Speaker 2: never really get that offense going. And honestly, Bone, as
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  Speaker 2: great as that six-game run was a few years ago
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  Speaker 2: where they blew the doors off Tennessee and they blew
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  Speaker 2: the doors off Clemson, I guess it was, what, two
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  Speaker 2: years ago, that set a really, really high bar that
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  Speaker 2: Shane's never been able to get back to, and it
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  Speaker 2: might have been kind of leading to his own demise.
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  Speaker 1: I know this, Bone. When you watch Settle In at
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  Speaker 1: 1245 SEC Network, there's a plug for you, Dari. On Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: to watch South Carolina-Florida, you need to have a daiquiri
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  Speaker 1: in hand. And you might need a few, Bone. I
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  Speaker 1: have a feeling.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be thinking about Peter Burns messing up
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  Speaker 3: the studio now when I watch him on there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, make sure you clean up after yourself. Don't go
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  Speaker 1: full Burns on the house. Dari, I wanted to ask
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  Speaker 1: you about Florida. They are the next opponent for the Gamecocks.
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  Speaker 1: in the swamp. And it just feels like John Summerall
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  Speaker 1: is going to be chewing those dudes a new one
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  Speaker 1: all week and have them ready to take the frustration
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  Speaker 1: out on someone else after the loss to Missouri. How
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  Speaker 1: do you view Florida? Cause we were kind of guilty
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  Speaker 1: of crowning them last week. And, uh, we were very
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  Speaker 1: guilty as Willie P the Missouri alum at the station, uh,
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  Speaker 1: bashing Missouri and joining in with everybody that was saying,
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  Speaker 1: why are they ranked all the time? Why are they
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  Speaker 1: clinging in the top 25? And we were shocked by
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  Speaker 1: last week. When you look at Florida now, do you
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  Speaker 1: still view them as, hey, they're a playoff caliber team?
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  Speaker 1: Or are you now wondering, is it going to be
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  Speaker 1: a good first year for Summerall, but maybe not playoff caliber?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think more of that. I think it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be a good first year, but not playoff caliber. Preseason,
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  Speaker 2: I had him fifth in the SEC, which was really
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  Speaker 2: high compared to where most people had him. I just
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  Speaker 2: like him, and I like the guys that stayed there
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  Speaker 2: to play for him. But I think South Carolina is
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  Speaker 2: running into something nasty Saturday, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when Missouri hammered Florida, Doring and I were
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  Speaker 2: both texted back and forth with Drake, who's just a
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  Speaker 2: friend of ours. And whether he's a pina colada or
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  Speaker 2: a daiquiri, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Let us know.
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  Speaker 2: Ask him.
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  Speaker 3: Let us know.
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  Speaker 2: He was talking about how it's easy to coach a
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  Speaker 2: team that's pissed off all week because they were pissed
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  Speaker 2: off all week after what happened in mississippi state i
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  Speaker 2: think john sumrall's had a team this week that's pissed
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  Speaker 2: off all week and i would expect a similar type
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  Speaker 2: of outing that they had put up against them last
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  Speaker 2: week this week when they face South Carolina. I think
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  Speaker 2: it spells trouble for Carolina. I hate that going into
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  Speaker 2: a bye week for Carolina. Understanding what that could possibly
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  Speaker 2: mean for Shane Beamer when that game is over at Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I think Florida's really good. I think it's an eight
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  Speaker 2: or nine win team that's really good. But I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: go playoff yet. But I think they're going to put
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  Speaker 2: up a show Saturday afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: John Summerall can't be a strawberry dad guy. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to say that right now. I'm not going to ask
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  Speaker 3: him either. That's what I'm staying away from.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Peter Kalanis is type of thing either. Dari,
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  Speaker 1: I got no time. I want you to know here.
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  Speaker 1: I have no time for the dude on the text
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  Speaker 1: line at a 980 number that is trolling your Sooners
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  Speaker 1: and wants to know how many daiquiris Mateer has before
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  Speaker 1: he goes and throws those interceptions. I got no time
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  Speaker 1: for that guy, Dari. All right?
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  Speaker 2: I like the interception better than the backward toss there
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  Speaker 2: to nobody. I would rather the ball move in a
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  Speaker 2: forward direction.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think that's a fair request.
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  Speaker 1: I was all in on Mateer, too, man. I can't
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  Speaker 1: say anything.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, that game against Texas was always wild. You never
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  Speaker 3: know what may happen this weekend. It wouldn't shock me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, is that 9-8-0? Who's your Oklahoma State listener, by
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  Speaker 2: the way? Gotta give him some credit, man. Hit some props.
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  Speaker 2: That team's good now. I'll admit that. That team's a
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  Speaker 2: good football team.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good shout from you. That's that dude likes
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  Speaker 1: the paycheck. And yeah, they are. We can point out
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  Speaker 1: the one fan of that team. I think there's two,
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  Speaker 1: but likes the paycheck is a name I remember. Even
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  Speaker 1: Dari's aware of your work. out there likes the paycheck.
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  Speaker 1: That team's fun to watch, man. No doubt about it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, brother.
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  Speaker 1: Why couldn't, by the way, when my Nittany Lions went
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  Speaker 1: out and got a coach, I know you don't give
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  Speaker 1: a damn about my Nittany Lions, Dory. I understand it,
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  Speaker 1: nor should you. But when my Nittany Lions go out, fellas,
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  Speaker 1: and get a coach and bring half their team with us,
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  Speaker 1: why couldn't we get the same results that they did
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  Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State when they went and got North Texas'
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  Speaker 1: coach and half the team? We got to Cyclones East
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  Speaker 1: and we're getting our rear ends kicked.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but one of the things was that OSU had
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  Speaker 2: a coaching staff in place on signing day. You guys
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  Speaker 2: didn't even have a staff in place. Like, there was
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  Speaker 2: no roster.
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  Speaker 1: I know, but that's because they whiffed on about 14 dudes, man.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they even tried to go out to BYU
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  Speaker 1: and drag Satake. Anyway, this is not— no one cares. Other
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  Speaker 1: than to laugh at me, no one cares about my
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  Speaker 1: plight as a Penn State fan.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, tell Burns to tighten up there, all right, Dory?
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  Speaker 1: Likes the paycheck.
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  Speaker 2: Won't do any good, brother. Won't do any good.
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  Speaker 1: Likes the paycheck has heard you, Dari. He's very flattered.
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  Speaker 1: Very flattered by the attention. All right, brother. Thanks as always, man.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: You got it, guys. Take care.