Latest / The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast / Episode 99: The Italian Job
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello Fred here, I just wanted to wish you all
- 0:04Speaker 1: a happy East and good I recommend you all listen
- 0:07Speaker 1: to Domond Jerry while you enjoy your three or four
- 0:11Speaker 1: days off. Whatever housealt Joe you've got to do, stick
- 0:16Speaker 1: the old podcast in your ears while you're at it.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Could be anything pow washing, yard, cleaning your gutters, dropping
- 0:24Speaker 1: a one hundred and forty chimney at ground. Everything is
- 0:29Speaker 1: more enjoyable with Domond Jerry in your ears. Well, I
- 0:33Speaker 1: think so. Anyhow, I'll see they Tom and there.
- 0:47Speaker 2: I'm out of sorts. I'm all out of sorts. He
- 0:50Speaker 2: caught me on the hop this evening. I'm fresh out
- 0:52Speaker 2: of shower. I'm not wearing any socks or you can't
- 0:56Speaker 2: function properly with no socks on it.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a different gravy like if you're a if
- 1:01Speaker 1: you're even a slipper or a thing. I know, I
- 1:03Speaker 1: get it. If you meant to go around the no socks,
- 1:06Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like a summer's day which
- 1:08Speaker 1: I love. Can't get keep socks on that, you know,
- 1:10Speaker 1: full of mind, they are absolutely a waste of mon
- 1:12Speaker 1: mind either. But if I get you, if I'm caught
- 1:14Speaker 1: in the hop and I go, am I on, shoe on,
- 1:17Speaker 1: sock on? What am I doing? If I get it?
- 1:20Speaker 1: I get it? Have you belt on the trousers but there's.
- 1:24Speaker 2: No belt on tracky bottoms here, Tom, fair enough because
- 1:26Speaker 2: if you were sitting there o'clock at night. But no,
- 1:29Speaker 2: I'll tell you if if, if, if I hand this
- 1:32Speaker 2: podcast over to Tom to carry it for five minutes
- 1:35Speaker 2: while I run off and get a pair of socks,
- 1:36Speaker 2: you know, I'll just be like, I can't fucking stick it.
- 1:39Speaker 2: No for them, I get it.
- 1:40Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hi, everybody, Welcome to
- 1:42Speaker 1: the top and Jerry show. Jesus.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't. We don't. We don't go with airs
- 1:46Speaker 2: and graces. I'm Jerry McBride. That's Tom. O'Mahoney wardrobe malfunctions. Tom.
- 1:51Speaker 1: I had my own at the weekend, and if anybody
- 1:53Speaker 1: follows me on Instagram, I had to come clean about
- 1:55Speaker 1: it because to the point that if it made my
- 1:57Speaker 1: wife actually cry for fifteen minutes and get an asthma
- 2:01Speaker 1: attack from laughing, I figured it was worth just coming
- 2:04Speaker 1: clean and telling the truth. Gover. I won forty five
- 2:08Speaker 1: when I got into the bed Friday night, so that
- 2:10Speaker 1: became twenty nearly twenty three hour day, pretty tired up
- 2:16Speaker 1: the next morning. Up the next morning for early haircuts
- 2:19Speaker 1: with Keelan shut out. He's a great man. Listen to
- 2:21Speaker 1: the podcasts in the barbers in there for half eight
- 2:25Speaker 1: and he'll say, I had to feed more than the
- 2:26Speaker 1: young flow. I'm out with seven The next morning, jar
- 2:29Speaker 1: reaching around in the kind of walking part I don't always.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's a room work,
- 2:35Speaker 1: our clothes are and I didn't turn the light on.
- 2:38Speaker 1: I reached out crab what I thought was a T
- 2:39Speaker 1: shirt of mine. It wasn't as I draw on a
- 2:43Speaker 1: hoodie out the gap. And it wasn't until I had
- 2:46Speaker 1: did this robe inside the barbers that I realized I
- 2:48Speaker 1: was wearing a kind of.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Slinky number earlier.
- 2:53Speaker 1: The sleeves, do you know what? It would have been
- 2:56Speaker 1: more masculine had there been no sleeves at all on it, right,
- 2:59Speaker 1: like a wife beater. But it actually had little sleeves,
- 3:01Speaker 1: little girly sleeves that just come off the shoulder. The
- 3:05Speaker 1: neck was quite loose, and it was halfway up my
- 3:07Speaker 1: belly button, and it was it was canary yellow and
- 3:10Speaker 1: inside out Jesus Christ Tom. Yeah, but to be fair, Jar,
- 3:14Speaker 1: when you're did low. The town's local comedian, the barber,
- 3:19Speaker 1: who is also a sound skin, probably up since half six,
- 3:22Speaker 1: himself cut in the hair, he said nothing. He was like, pass,
- 3:25Speaker 1: no remarks, past, no remarks because also it's not like
- 3:28Speaker 1: I'm the local solicitor, do you know what I mean?
- 3:30Speaker 1: But then I get home thinking, then I got to
- 3:32Speaker 1: go straight to Jay training. As you know, I'm at
- 3:34Speaker 1: coach now, mister coach, I'm the angry coach. Even at that,
- 3:37Speaker 1: I'm the bad guy.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Oh you're you're You're not the cool guy.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not. No, no, oh no. I thought
- 3:42Speaker 1: I would be Jared. That's what I thought my role
- 3:43Speaker 1: would be. And then it turns out I'm actually I
- 3:47Speaker 1: don't know if anybody saw on my Instagram. Also my
- 3:49Speaker 1: wife who came along and knows what my temper is
- 3:51Speaker 1: about to flare up before I do. She came to
- 3:53Speaker 1: football training and no one full well she was in
- 3:57Speaker 1: for retreat, saw me being the rowdy coach. Look and
- 4:00Speaker 1: yung FLEs out of at age six, and while her
- 4:03Speaker 1: and all the mothers roared laugh and she went onto
- 4:05Speaker 1: AI and made a culmination of me and Kim Jong
- 4:08Speaker 1: owned with a Gaelic football and yes, so I came
- 4:12Speaker 1: outside and I came clean. I'd go to train and
- 4:15Speaker 1: keep the hood tightly tied up. And when I came
- 4:17Speaker 1: back home with you never guess what I'm wearing, So
- 4:19Speaker 1: what probably am worried that I was her underwear? I zipped,
- 4:25Speaker 1: unzipped and showed her. And at that point she sped
- 4:28Speaker 1: her coffee all over the fucking the kitchen, fucking counter
- 4:32Speaker 1: and proceeded to get an asthma attack for fifteen minutes
- 4:34Speaker 1: because she left so fucking hard. Even if I may
- 4:37Speaker 1: go out and if I mentioned that or pointed that
- 4:40Speaker 1: T shirt, now that woman is inconsolable for the next
- 4:43Speaker 1: five minutes. It's she enjoyed that much. So anybody go
- 4:46Speaker 1: to my Instagram show watch watch a middle aged man
- 4:49Speaker 1: just come clean with society. It was my open letter
- 4:52Speaker 1: to society that this can happen to even the best
- 4:55Speaker 1: of us. I malfunctioned that.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I feel so bad now Tom, that i'd and have
- 5:00Speaker 2: time to throw on a pair of the shower and
- 5:03Speaker 2: arrived here to do the Tom and Jerry show. Still
- 5:05Speaker 2: damp for you, find, folks, that's just.
- 5:07Speaker 1: What you're forgiven from my side anyway, given to carry
- 5:10Speaker 1: on of me over the weekend. It's it's that I
- 5:13Speaker 1: give you the backstory, but still all the same, it's
- 5:15Speaker 1: it's kind of unforgiven to end up in that scenario.
- 5:19Speaker 1: But I think people people enjoyed my fall because they
- 5:22Speaker 1: came to the comedy club and care that night and
- 5:24Speaker 1: at least nine different people started shouting up, what what
- 5:27Speaker 1: T shirt? I was wearing under my shirts?
- 5:31Speaker 2: Yeah? If I was you, I just rock up wearing
- 5:33Speaker 2: that T shirt?
- 5:34Speaker 1: Ever, why not? Why not get a whole bunch of
- 5:39Speaker 1: them just for the hell of it? Like, but it did.
- 5:42Speaker 1: It did look like I was ready for fame the musical.
- 5:47Speaker 1: That's all I'll tell you.
- 5:48Speaker 2: If you want to wonder with the core of young
- 5:50Speaker 2: lads what I wear in the way, not to jump
- 5:52Speaker 2: ahead in the show, but what the young lads are
- 5:53Speaker 2: wearing these days. I wouldn't say you looked out of
- 5:55Speaker 2: place in the fucking slightest.
- 5:57Speaker 1: Probably probably not, actually now you mention probably yeah, probably
- 6:01Speaker 1: a lot of those likes on Instagram were just people
- 6:03Speaker 1: going nice.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Nice you. You come back in a week's time, and
- 6:06Speaker 2: to be ten lads are wearing that look what happened
- 6:07Speaker 2: with the mullet.
- 6:09Speaker 1: You're all laughing at me now, every fucking flinging the
- 6:11Speaker 1: jersey is going wrong with these gabby little half mullets.
- 6:13Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, and I'm laughing at them as well. Tom,
- 6:16Speaker 2: come here, we'll rock on with the show.
- 6:21Speaker 1: You are able the vest, but I appreciate it.
- 6:24Speaker 2: You didn't win the mullet argument.
- 6:26Speaker 1: No, no, no, I wanted.
- 6:29Speaker 2: It was a ship the hothouse flowers heading me. My god, damn,
- 6:37Speaker 2: those were the days.
- 6:38Speaker 1: You had a great opportunity. And I will say that
- 6:41Speaker 1: you had a great opportunity, but you didn't. You didn't,
- 6:43Speaker 1: you didn't take it. But you went scandas enough, So
- 6:45Speaker 1: that's fine. We better move on with the show.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Better move on with the show. Folks were gonna kick
- 6:49Speaker 2: off as we do every week, with the big news
- 6:51Speaker 2: the scuttle, but the rock is the weekly what have you.
- 6:54Speaker 2: This is a very complicated case, mad You know, a
- 6:56Speaker 2: lot of a lot of outs, a lot of what
- 6:58Speaker 2: have you, and uh of SCRAMs to keep in my head.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Man, It's it's rare. I get I get pinned so
- 7:07Speaker 1: much by the amount of times I got sent this
- 7:10Speaker 1: from family members because they were like this is has
- 7:13Speaker 1: dominant number one crime, you know, low level crime level,
- 7:18Speaker 1: no live level crime.
- 7:20Speaker 2: Murder on the show yet killing the audience I suppose
- 7:24Speaker 2: could Yeah yeah, I don't know.
- 7:26Speaker 1: I don't know. There's almost no cracking murdering, like do
- 7:28Speaker 1: you know what I mean? There's a bit of crack
- 7:30Speaker 1: and there's a definitely a bit that kind of show.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Definitely a bit of crack in this one because we
- 7:34Speaker 1: we like to see the Europeans just get a bit
- 7:37Speaker 1: of kicking the arts because they're a bit smarmy with
- 7:39Speaker 1: their good weather and all the rest of it. So
- 7:41Speaker 1: and also, I mean, who doesn't like to see a
- 7:44Speaker 1: huge multi national monster haveing They have their wings clipped
- 7:48Speaker 1: ever so slightly. And this is Nestley the guy. The
- 7:52Speaker 1: CEO of ESLE said that this guy came out a
- 7:54Speaker 1: couple of years ago Jared and said water wasn't a
- 7:56Speaker 1: human right, it should be sold by me.
- 7:59Speaker 2: So from the official Tom and Jerry stands on, Neslie
- 8:02Speaker 2: is fuck Nesley.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Nesley and shit much like bears a bear
- 8:07Speaker 1: eating at a fucking nesle a shit.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Well, bears ain't even eating Nesle these days. Tom, what happened?
- 8:13Speaker 1: So what happened, and I love the way they'd left
- 8:15Speaker 1: it a bit murky. Four hundred, four hundred and thirteen thousand,
- 8:21Speaker 1: seven hundred and ninety three kid cats were fixed Jerry
- 8:27Speaker 1: truck and all went absolutely sends abscondiondo after leaving a
- 8:33Speaker 1: unit in wait for it Italiano and just the low
- 8:39Speaker 1: jack system that was on at the driver's tracker, everything
- 8:44Speaker 1: just disappeared. It was en route to Poland, and I
- 8:48Speaker 1: guess much like you know Second World War story, this
- 8:52Speaker 1: one didn't make it to Poland just.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Didn't make it. Didn't Irish man just didn't make it.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Just didn't make it to Poland. And like that, they're
- 8:59Speaker 1: they're looking all sorts. So it was in it came
- 9:03Speaker 1: out like they were saying that. The first people to
- 9:07Speaker 1: spell about it, of course was Agence France Presse, which
- 9:11Speaker 1: are like, you know, liquip on one of these there
- 9:14Speaker 1: because Nesle of course there's a French company. They were like,
- 9:17Speaker 1: we got people this one why it is? And this
- 9:20Speaker 1: came yeah, this came to This came to light because
- 9:25Speaker 1: it reached over twelve that's twelve tons of kit cats here.
- 9:29Speaker 2: You see, I had gotten the number that it was
- 9:31Speaker 2: twelve tons of kit cats. And I hadn't that hadn't
- 9:34Speaker 2: been broken down to me as to how many bars
- 9:35Speaker 2: it is? How many bars is twelve tons?
- 9:37Speaker 1: Did you say four hundred and thirteen seven hundred and
- 9:39Speaker 1: ninety three?
- 9:40Speaker 2: Okay, so now a million kit cats in the wind?
- 9:43Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean at we'll say gross price net
- 9:48Speaker 1: price in the shop, let's say two fifty a bar.
- 9:51Speaker 1: These days, I'm guessing you're looking at close to a
- 9:54Speaker 1: million a million euro million to kill kit cats.
- 9:58Speaker 2: That's a lot to.
- 9:59Speaker 1: Fit in any rock, Like you know what I mean,
- 10:01Speaker 1: It's not to me, Like.
- 10:02Speaker 2: You know, I had never not once in my life,
- 10:05Speaker 2: but until I heard this story, had I thought of
- 10:08Speaker 2: how a KitKat gets transported because I've only ever seen
- 10:11Speaker 2: in the in the outer sleeves, you know, like an
- 10:14Speaker 2: outer sleeve of kit cats. And there's like I don't know,
- 10:16Speaker 2: like turkey bars in a in an outer sleeve, and
- 10:20Speaker 2: you see some of them like packed up in the
- 10:23Speaker 2: back of a shop or some such before they get
- 10:25Speaker 2: put out on the on the on the aisles by
- 10:28Speaker 2: the teenagers. You know. Like just to me, I'd never
- 10:31Speaker 2: seen two boxes of kit cats, let alone one hundred
- 10:35Speaker 2: thousand boxes of it. And I've never dawn on me
- 10:37Speaker 2: that Oh yeah, I guess, I suppose, I said to myself,
- 10:39Speaker 2: I guess most graves has ten or fifteen of them
- 10:41Speaker 2: on the shelves. But it's it's boggled in my mind
- 10:45Speaker 2: to think of a lorry full of.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Kit cats a lorry. Fully you think, yeah, you wouldn't
- 10:50Speaker 1: imagine it all arrive at the one time, because Nestle
- 10:54Speaker 1: is so big. You think because Nesle had a did
- 10:57Speaker 1: a plant in Cork and they used the specialist in me
- 11:00Speaker 1: in Forrero Rash over near Douglas, and one of the
- 11:04Speaker 1: few building sights I've ever been on that you're continuously
- 11:07Speaker 1: hungry because you can all you can smell is for
- 11:09Speaker 1: rail rashe in the air nearby. I've been in many
- 11:12Speaker 1: a place where there's stuff in the air that you
- 11:14Speaker 1: don't want. It would turn you after your fucking your
- 11:16Speaker 1: your breakfast. But so you nearly think that they have
- 11:19Speaker 1: a local spot everywhere making these things thought like, you know,
- 11:22Speaker 1: like cad breeze and coolock or some such like, exactly
- 11:27Speaker 1: one distribution point in Italy. And if it gets absconded, well,
- 11:32Speaker 1: here's then all of a sudden, Poland doesn't have any
- 11:34Speaker 1: kit cats for a year exactly. Now here's the tinger.
- 11:37Speaker 1: They were on the way to Poland, right both they
- 11:41Speaker 1: were a very specific one. So this might be the
- 11:43Speaker 1: one that's only made back back at home base right now.
- 11:47Speaker 1: They the thisn't tell you how the kind of money
- 11:52Speaker 1: could Cat and Nesle have, Like they literally said, while
- 11:56Speaker 1: we appreciate the criminals exceptional taste, the facts are made.
- 12:00Speaker 1: The cargo theft is an escalated issue for businesses of
- 12:02Speaker 1: all sizes, and you're like they had the opportunity to
- 12:06Speaker 1: stick in like they had exceptional taste. Fair play lads.
- 12:11Speaker 1: That's nearly more worrying in a way, isn't it, Because
- 12:13Speaker 1: if a you know, a villain, which let's say Nesley
- 12:16Speaker 1: are because they kind of are, turns around and goes
- 12:19Speaker 1: fair place. Yeah, through that smiling smile, you.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Could do a lot with it. As a company, you
- 12:25Speaker 2: could turn around and go like, couldn't help. But notice
- 12:27Speaker 2: that there haven't been many Mars bars stolen lately. Yeah
- 12:30Speaker 2: you know, yeah, because if people would taste steel care
- 12:33Speaker 2: you could do something.
- 12:35Speaker 1: You could and no doubt they probably will. But in
- 12:38Speaker 1: their statement there was like, you know, we quite literally
- 12:41Speaker 1: they have taken a break with twelve tons of our choclate.
- 12:44Speaker 1: But it's the kind of sinister, happy happy that they're
- 12:47Speaker 1: putting out that to me says that somebody's gonna lose fingers.
- 12:52Speaker 2: You know, it's it's very it's very like lockstock or snatch.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, well done, lads, well done, well done.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Want to me, yes, hope you enjoy those fingers, because
- 13:04Speaker 1: that's a loss for four fucking fingers you're gonna have
- 13:07Speaker 1: in thatt Rock Turkish.
- 13:09Speaker 2: You snapping those fingers up one at a time. Just
- 13:11Speaker 2: remember a more snapped your fucking fingers off. I can't
- 13:16Speaker 2: do the accents.
- 13:17Speaker 1: That was close enough. That was close enough for me
- 13:20Speaker 1: on the wager. You see, these were specific one there
- 13:22Speaker 1: were these particular bars because Kit Cat, if nothing else,
- 13:26Speaker 1: there's a kit Cat fucking cereal up in that fucking
- 13:28Speaker 1: cupboard somewhere. I guarantee you there is a new Formula
- 13:32Speaker 1: one line. Now, how it tastes like a formerly one car,
- 13:35Speaker 1: I don't know. But they actually have a chocolate formerly
- 13:37Speaker 1: one car some in Sentil Square in York at the minute,
- 13:41Speaker 1: crafted from chocolate, not plashtic from chocolate. But these were
- 13:47Speaker 1: on the way to be distributed guessing from the big
- 13:50Speaker 1: distribution area, like you said, the most grapes of Poland
- 13:54Speaker 1: and it was too grips. It was the compliment. And
- 13:57Speaker 1: then you then you watch me call it the new
- 14:00Speaker 1: kid caat range was gonna be F one formerly one
- 14:03Speaker 1: inspired and it got me thinking.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Jer they're sorry, I gotta pull it that one their tom?
- 14:08Speaker 2: How is F one inspired?
- 14:11Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe he's gotta point the end. Have
- 14:17Speaker 1: you been down the rabbit hole? That is what KitKat
- 14:20Speaker 1: and Nesley have been at. The fucking nankey bastards they
- 14:23Speaker 1: have thrown do you know, Like you've been in enough
- 14:27Speaker 1: marketing meetings and you talk these things over and things
- 14:29Speaker 1: are spitballed back and forth, and you go, maybe we
- 14:32Speaker 1: could do a Shardonnay and fucking hell cheese, fucking crisp
- 14:38Speaker 1: and go cross. It goes around the table. Maybe put
- 14:41Speaker 1: it out to a market in a market research survey.
- 14:43Speaker 1: No disgusting, kid Cat, don't do that at all.
- 14:47Speaker 2: They really seem to be a law to themselves.
- 14:50Speaker 1: They're out of control. Ger when it comes to flavors,
- 14:53Speaker 1: they're absolutely out of control. I'm just gonna shout some
- 14:55Speaker 1: of these flavors at you. Please do and you can
- 14:57Speaker 1: just come up with whatever you think they might be.
- 15:00Speaker 1: There's a running team through this whole thing. That's a
- 15:02Speaker 1: little bit fucking creepy. Right, there's one called Save the
- 15:05Speaker 1: Blue Ocean kit Cat. What does that taste? What does
- 15:08Speaker 1: that taste like? Malted milk? Apparently? Whatever the fuck? Ben
- 15:12Speaker 1: had a caramel kit Cat? Get the fuck out of
- 15:14Speaker 1: my face. No mint and dark chocolate, all right, it's
- 15:17Speaker 1: been done before. Looks rank and wheat biscuit kit cat.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Now this is where we start.
- 15:25Speaker 2: I say, no, you message the way for it. It's
- 15:27Speaker 2: not a kit cat.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Hold onto your pants, flann pudding kit cat. Try that one. Advertise, Hm,
- 15:33Speaker 1: the Japanese are wild. Coffee could break kit cat tastes
- 15:37Speaker 1: like fucking coffee, as you can imagine. Here's where the
- 15:40Speaker 1: first round of weirdness comes from. Adult sweetness number one,
- 15:44Speaker 1: kit cat, Give me that again, adult sweetness, adult sweetness,
- 15:48Speaker 1: and that's the flavoreder It's called adult sweetness. Taste of
- 15:53Speaker 1: a sweet adult inside that bar. Moving on, fruity cereal
- 15:58Speaker 1: Kit Cat?
- 15:59Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that fuck that adult sweetness will tell you that.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Much right off. Matcha kit Cat.
- 16:06Speaker 2: I've had a match kit Cat. I think that you
- 16:09Speaker 2: would be there that.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Can go and see just before I concrete it summer
- 16:13Speaker 1: ice cream kit cat again, a lot of these evasion
- 16:16Speaker 1: writing in the front of them, and I'm just going
- 16:17Speaker 1: to say it tastes like vanilla dunk a use.
- 16:20Speaker 2: If you know what the vanilla kit cat and it
- 16:22Speaker 2: don't get smarked.
- 16:23Speaker 1: Pistachio kit cat, which every bastard their mother tried doing
- 16:26Speaker 1: fucking Dubai shite last year. Here we go here adult
- 16:30Speaker 1: sweetness kit cat number two?
- 16:33Speaker 2: What what what differentiate's number one and number two?
- 16:36Speaker 1: This one's got a hint of matcha in it. No
- 16:40Speaker 1: sweet thing historically, but okay, yeap cheesecake kit cat.
- 16:45Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not Yeah, if I was gonna eat a
- 16:46Speaker 2: kick cat maple cat, and then you know, second to that,
- 16:49Speaker 2: I might be cheese kay kit kit.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Maple Canada, also known as the sorry maple kit cat,
- 16:54Speaker 1: also knows that, oh Canada kidkat, it has no bearing whatsoever.
- 17:00Speaker 1: It's got some Asian writing on it. It's got a
- 17:01Speaker 1: giraffe and a polar bear on the front of it,
- 17:04Speaker 1: because you know they're native to Canada.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Natives to Canada. Strawberry miss a trick not calling that
- 17:08Speaker 2: just a kit cat Canada. I know, I know, but
- 17:11Speaker 2: then again it'll be a KKK bar, wouldn't it. Which,
- 17:15Speaker 2: by the way you're going on, Tom, that's coming up
- 17:17Speaker 2: now shortly.
- 17:17Speaker 1: Could be easily All of these are probably dirty names
- 17:20Speaker 1: for sex positions and weird things that people write to
- 17:22Speaker 1: each other in the dark web. Strawberry kit cat Okay,
- 17:25Speaker 1: strawberry milk kit cat because why Adult Sweetness number three, Tom,
- 17:28Speaker 1: I'm gone, We're wrapping the strawberry milk kit cat and
- 17:32Speaker 1: it's just pink and tangy chocolate orange kit cat. All right,
- 17:36Speaker 1: Terry's fair enough, but not get off the truck. Terry's
- 17:39Speaker 1: nailed that back in the day. White chocolate kit cat
- 17:41Speaker 1: absolutely fucking not bar. There you go. That is that
- 17:46Speaker 1: it does look like it's wearing a little hood fairness
- 17:48Speaker 1: and it's got brown inside. That's ironic. Strawberry and dark
- 17:53Speaker 1: chocolate kit cat going to be absolutely disgusting. Here we
- 17:56Speaker 1: go here, Adult Sweetness number three.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Folks follow us on Instagram, Tom w Els, would we
- 18:05Speaker 2: like these fine people to do? What the fuck is
- 18:06Speaker 2: adult's weakness Number.
- 18:07Speaker 1: This one's got is solidly strawberry flavored, but wait for
- 18:11Speaker 1: it's fuzzy and mealy mealy Yeah, like an alka Seltzer
- 18:17Speaker 1: got a mankey coating like what bar a meily bar? Yeah,
- 18:22Speaker 1: Like you're feeding pigs mocha and chocolate kit cat mango
- 18:27Speaker 1: KitKat fuck clearly off. I'm gonna I'm gonna actually say
- 18:31Speaker 1: what I think is the rankest of the addam apple
- 18:33Speaker 1: and cinnamon cat cat that can get so far into
- 18:36Speaker 1: the middle of the sea. It tastes it tastes like
- 18:40Speaker 1: perfume apparently, Yeah, yeah, and a perfume you're getting clears
- 18:43Speaker 1: this person is making an honest reading. Then there's mob
- 18:47Speaker 1: Blanc KitKat, which is Maron flavored. That's a hazel lot
- 18:51Speaker 1: of or chestnut of some sort. Chestnuts fucking disgusting and
- 18:55Speaker 1: probably what I'd imagine is the most disgusting of all,
- 18:59Speaker 1: but with a notion of trying to be there for
- 19:01Speaker 1: all the Yorkshire odds.
- 19:03Speaker 2: It's adult sweetness number four.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Well technically yeah, it's milk tea kit cat milk tea Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.
- 19:13Speaker 2: I mean, like, okay, Tom, do you know we don't
- 19:21Speaker 2: want to get into We remember when straight away, but
- 19:23Speaker 2: kit cats used to be nice and now they are
- 19:25Speaker 2: stink I.
- 19:27Speaker 1: Was put off kit cats. I like an al kit
- 19:29Speaker 1: cat right in my head, but I was put off
- 19:30Speaker 1: from years ago. Lad, Do you know with different leads
- 19:33Speaker 1: are different kind of habits. It's lead, lad that I
- 19:37Speaker 1: knew used to gnaw off the chocolate like a rat
- 19:40Speaker 1: off on a k on a kit Cat and get
- 19:42Speaker 1: it down to the wafer and then the whole thing.
- 19:44Speaker 2: And I remember watching I do that on a purple snack.
- 19:47Speaker 1: I watched him do that. Yeah, when they were teak.
- 19:49Speaker 1: There's no point, but he used to do it. And
- 19:52Speaker 1: I remember watching him the same way a prisoner who
- 19:55Speaker 1: was about to shank somebody. Do you know, like I
- 19:58Speaker 1: watched him when I'm gonna go across the fucking table
- 20:00Speaker 1: of this this school canteen, just shank him with something
- 20:03Speaker 1: and get another twenty five years on my sentence because
- 20:06Speaker 1: the difference. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what does it make to me?
- 20:09Speaker 1: That's the way I looked at it.
- 20:09Speaker 2: So then for life may as well take if you
- 20:11Speaker 2: buy it.
- 20:12Speaker 1: If any of those flavors I notice said formerly one
- 20:14Speaker 1: flavored or from formerly one teamed kit cats were effect
- 20:18Speaker 1: if any of them tasted remotely like one to twenty
- 20:22Speaker 1: five disgusting fucking things and if any of them had
- 20:24Speaker 1: a vibe of admiral sweetness of it getting the fucking
- 20:27Speaker 1: see good luck they went missing in Italy. That's all
- 20:30Speaker 1: I know.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, Tom before we move on.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Go on.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Do you think the thieves that these kitkats? Do you
- 20:39Speaker 2: think they knew that's what they were stealing? Or was
- 20:41Speaker 2: this a crime of opportunity that they just grabbed a
- 20:43Speaker 2: truck and trove and they were as surprised as anybody
- 20:46Speaker 2: to open it and find millions of kit cats.
- 20:48Speaker 1: If it was any other country, I'd say it was
- 20:50Speaker 1: a it was a roll of the dice and just
- 20:52Speaker 1: robbed it. But this was where a.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Crime was invented.
- 20:57Speaker 1: Crime was invented, Organized crime was invented. You know. It's
- 21:00Speaker 1: costin Astra or cast An, austral or whatever they call it.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Like I don't I'm not saying it was close to
- 21:05Speaker 1: the Sicilian and close to the Sicily or that or Naples,
- 21:10Speaker 1: but I'm just throwing it up there. I I this
- 21:14Speaker 1: was but one hundred one hundred percent And do you
- 21:19Speaker 1: know what they're doing? Do you know what they're probably doing? Hold?
- 21:21Speaker 2: I have no idea what they're doing. Hold this this
- 21:23Speaker 2: isn't gold. You can't sit in this for five years exactly.
- 21:26Speaker 1: They I guarantee. What they're doing now is they have
- 21:28Speaker 1: it held held for ransom. They'll take maybe one hundred
- 21:32Speaker 1: thousand to release eight in the truck.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Just walk away. That's interesting.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I That's what I would do. I
- 21:38Speaker 1: just go listen. It's fair, right, there's no point in
- 21:41Speaker 1: going to your insurers for this. I'm going to give
- 21:42Speaker 1: you back the truck and all your kid gets for
- 21:45Speaker 1: one hundred grand. I said, leave it in crypto, and
- 21:48Speaker 1: here's me working for a living time. That's actually very smart.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Thanks man.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Thanks.
- 21:52Speaker 1: It's a it's an old move, but it's it's but
- 21:55Speaker 1: it's fair. You don't ask for you don't ask for
- 21:56Speaker 1: the price that the kid gets back. You still wanted
- 21:58Speaker 1: to make some money so that they can you know,
- 22:01Speaker 1: they'll rote out of another one next month.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Week on the least. Or do you want the Polish
- 22:05Speaker 2: kids to get KitKat? Don't you?
- 22:07Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 22:07Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.
- 22:08Speaker 1: So it's I think I'm just saying, and I don't
- 22:12Speaker 1: like the stereotype. I absolutely like the stereotype. It was
- 22:15Speaker 1: the Italians, jar.
- 22:17Speaker 2: It was the Italians. The Italian job with Kitkats ladies and.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Hanging off the edge of the cliff like I was
- 22:23Speaker 1: supposed to plant the bloody fucking dose off kit cats everywhere.
- 22:28Speaker 2: Kit Cats, well, folks, there you go. If you manage
- 22:31Speaker 2: to get yourself a kit Kat over the easter, you know,
- 22:34Speaker 2: maybe sell on the black market.
- 22:35Speaker 1: There's a shortage they have the Oh that's the one
- 22:38Speaker 1: thing I meant to actually say, is that Nestle have
- 22:41Speaker 1: all those barcodes, all of them right, and they'll know
- 22:45Speaker 1: the second one pings and then that's when they're fucking
- 22:48Speaker 1: so the boys camera and the fucking trainsit fucking smash
- 22:54Speaker 1: you up in it. They will they ready for any
- 22:57Speaker 1: of them, So they're assuming they need to be sold
- 22:59Speaker 1: on the That's why I don't think they're going to
- 23:01Speaker 1: be actually sold in any markets around Italy, you know
- 23:04Speaker 1: what I mean. I think it's just going to be
- 23:06Speaker 1: a ransom job truck and all released.
- 23:09Speaker 2: One k and you want a chopper to the airport,
- 23:14Speaker 2: I want one hundred kit cats with unmarked, nonsequential barcodes.
- 23:20Speaker 2: Fucking right. Okay, we'll move on.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Tom, big blue, big blue bomb in the middle of all.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Of just uh, Tom, We're gonna bust on to the
- 23:33Speaker 2: next segment of the show where we don't just talk
- 23:35Speaker 2: about any lad, not the lads that rob the truck,
- 23:38Speaker 2: not this lad, that lad, Our Lord and Savior Jesus
- 23:40Speaker 2: Christ rising this sun. And know we're talking about a
- 23:42Speaker 2: very specific lad the second segment of the showtime we
- 23:46Speaker 2: call it this lad.
- 23:50Speaker 1: It was work. I was going to suggest our Lord
- 23:52Speaker 1: and Savior Jesus Christ, but you know we would.
- 23:54Speaker 2: I didn't know how we would get through that without.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Well blasphemy aside. I think we wouldn't have. Had we
- 23:59Speaker 1: could've done a whole show. We might do him sometime.
- 24:02Speaker 1: Let's just do it, you know, a deep drive into
- 24:04Speaker 1: Jesus and because I don't think you'd fit his whole
- 24:07Speaker 1: story in in fifteen minutes, not having a bit of
- 24:10Speaker 1: crack off anything. Because we have to.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Assume that Jesus Christ on the Tom and Jerry Show
- 24:14Speaker 2: and ever expect to see heaven in the last of
- 24:16Speaker 2: your lifetime. But here we are. Well, but you got
- 24:19Speaker 2: to tell you he died. He has risen this Sunday.
- 24:25Speaker 2: But when it comes, Tom, if you're a man like me.
- 24:28Speaker 1: A four day weekend, oh for me, I'll make an
- 24:32Speaker 1: a six day weekend. Yeah, that's a week.
- 24:37Speaker 2: Tom, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, nice, nice nice. I'm
- 24:40Speaker 2: off on Good Friday and Eastern Monday, so that's a
- 24:42Speaker 2: big bang four day weekend. And a lot of listeners
- 24:44Speaker 2: of the Tom and Jerry Show are probably like that
- 24:46Speaker 2: as well, or at least if nothing else, you've got
- 24:48Speaker 2: the Monday off, you've got a three day weekend, four
- 24:51Speaker 2: day weekend stretching ahead at you. And as has become
- 24:54Speaker 2: popular in this country, Tom, that can become a time
- 24:58Speaker 2: to bust out the powerwasher. Hard has been lying up
- 25:01Speaker 2: all winter. It's easter that there's a bit of daylight
- 25:04Speaker 2: in the day. It's not a bit of walk there
- 25:06Speaker 2: now ye again at the start of the year. Time
- 25:08Speaker 2: to bust out the h the powerwasher. I'm getting mine ready,
- 25:12Speaker 2: my trusty character K seven ready to blast a couple
- 25:15Speaker 2: of flagstones at the weekend, very much looking forward to it.
- 25:18Speaker 2: Podcast on Protective Goggles on just Blast all my cares away.
- 25:24Speaker 1: Sorry for absolutely scoffing when you said, because you said
- 25:29Speaker 1: to me, all won't we right prediction? I have so
- 25:32Speaker 1: many goggles star and I just want I don't know why,
- 25:35Speaker 1: I just won't wear them. I was drilling overhead just
- 25:38Speaker 1: before the show bird proof in the front of the garage. Honestly,
- 25:40Speaker 1: I have a problem with it. Does swell As make
- 25:42Speaker 1: it back this year? And then I just burned the
- 25:44Speaker 1: fucking garage with them in it. But no, I've bird
- 25:46Speaker 1: proofed it and I'm drilling overhead and even at one
- 25:48Speaker 1: point herself comes over with a whole the letter I
- 25:51Speaker 1: guess you will not. She's like, do you want a
- 25:54Speaker 1: pair of goggles? As this dust was just falling straight
- 25:57Speaker 1: into my retinas and I was like, no, Jerry, get
- 26:00Speaker 1: so much satisfaction if you found out I was wearing.
- 26:03Speaker 2: We're going to end this podcast in a couple of
- 26:05Speaker 2: years time looking like fucking late by got Grove era.
- 26:09Speaker 2: PG and Duncan. You are going to be blind going
- 26:11Speaker 2: about with classes and I'm just gonna be fucking leading
- 26:13Speaker 2: you about the place.
- 26:14Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That might be the greatest niche reference that
- 26:18Speaker 1: has ever happened in the Dan near ten years of
- 26:21Speaker 1: the Toma Jerry Show. PG and Duncan for that one
- 26:25Speaker 1: little bit where ant of Dick I think went blind.
- 26:30Speaker 1: It the we might get them on the get the
- 26:34Speaker 1: leads on the podcast not up to a lot these
- 26:37Speaker 1: days Welcome.
- 26:38Speaker 2: Yeah we might. We might actually do the blinding of
- 26:43Speaker 2: at McFarland in a later episode, but from now we're
- 26:46Speaker 2: talking about Easter. I'm busting at the character case seven powerwashing,
- 26:49Speaker 2: powerwash my yard at the weekend. Maybe a lot of
- 26:52Speaker 2: you folks are, but it's puzzles in mind of an
- 26:55Speaker 2: old Tom and Jerry episode with a long long time
- 26:57Speaker 2: ago called Toolbox Legends, where we talked about the people
- 27:01Speaker 2: behind the tools and we said fuck it. In honor
- 27:04Speaker 2: of the first long weekend, we have to do a
- 27:07Speaker 2: power a bit of power washing. We'd take a look
- 27:09Speaker 2: at the lad behind Carterer Carcher himself, mister character.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Do you know what it has to be said? If
- 27:17Speaker 1: you're gonna put your name on a thing, it's gotta
- 27:20Speaker 1: be good, not you know what I mean. You're not
- 27:23Speaker 1: gonna call it the buzzwash two thousand, Yeah, you know,
- 27:27Speaker 1: if you're gonna just go like prior to character being Carcher,
- 27:30Speaker 1: he was it was just a surname, so it'd be
- 27:33Speaker 1: like it'd be just like McBride, although McBride powerwashers does
- 27:37Speaker 1: have a good grin to like Mikhail's. Baler's are the
- 27:39Speaker 1: best in the world.
- 27:40Speaker 2: So you know what I mean it it does two
- 27:42Speaker 2: people Tom, you know, you know great times like when
- 27:45Speaker 2: mister mister Williams, you know, yeah.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or Black and Decker yeah yeah yeah, right
- 27:49Speaker 1: enough massive.
- 27:51Speaker 2: But we we thought, like, you know, the listeners might
- 27:53Speaker 2: like to learn a little bit about the people behind
- 27:57Speaker 2: the tools we hold in the hands. So we're gonna
- 27:58Speaker 2: be dropping a couple of toolbox legs here and there
- 28:00Speaker 2: throughout the Tom and Jerry Show as we go on forward.
- 28:02Speaker 2: We're nearly at one hundred episodes. I don't know why
- 28:05Speaker 2: we haven't been doing this all along time, to be honest,
- 28:07Speaker 2: which sitting right there all the weeks that we had
- 28:09Speaker 2: fucking know this legs.
- 28:11Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, sometimes this let's just put
- 28:13Speaker 1: their hand forward. And I think character is that it's
- 28:16Speaker 1: got to be the It's got to be the one. Actually,
- 28:19Speaker 1: it's the Henry, isn't It's it's it won't let you down.
- 28:22Speaker 1: It's the It's the Henry. It's so many households. It's
- 28:26Speaker 1: a character. The old man, I think he is. He's
- 28:29Speaker 1: upgraded from his character. He loves the powerwasher, he loves it.
- 28:32Speaker 1: He's upgraded put the character. He still has a soft
- 28:35Speaker 1: spot for it in his heart, but he's after buying
- 28:37Speaker 1: a fucking animal other thing now that would split the concrete.
- 28:39Speaker 1: I don't know what he got there for.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Well, I mean like the character is very much the
- 28:43Speaker 2: how will I say it now, it's like the Black
- 28:46Speaker 2: and Deck or of Powerwashers, Like, Yeah, you're not going
- 28:48Speaker 2: to take a character on a site anymore than you're
- 28:50Speaker 2: going to take like a Black and Deck or Sander
- 28:52Speaker 2: on a site with getting laughed out of it, you know,
- 28:55Speaker 2: but it.
- 28:55Speaker 1: Wouldn't last the pace of doing that at a professional level.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Put perfectly fine. When Jerry needs to blow the winter
- 29:00Speaker 1: Mass office couples of.
- 29:02Speaker 2: My eighteen foot by eighteen for the cobblestones, all the
- 29:04Speaker 2: land I own in the world, fucking prisoners with more
- 29:09Speaker 2: real estate than I have.
- 29:10Speaker 1: I'm fucking jealous that you can contain it to that,
- 29:12Speaker 1: to be honest, that you don't need to bring a
- 29:14Speaker 1: livestock to fucking tempt down your fucking well, let.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Me tell you about the short and eventful life of
- 29:20Speaker 2: Alfred Karcher. What a man the guy you're on about there.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Alfred character was born in the second of January nineteen
- 29:26Speaker 2: thirty five, and, as the name would suggests Thomas got
- 29:28Speaker 2: a couple of the little loom lights over the aar
- 29:30Speaker 2: there that tells you straight away he's not Scottish.
- 29:34Speaker 1: What part of Nigeria is he from?
- 29:37Speaker 2: He is from Germany, From Germany. He was born in
- 29:41Speaker 2: excuse me, he was born.
- 29:43Speaker 1: A cough sounded like a real pregnant calugh that you
- 29:46Speaker 1: put it there on purpose. Actually he was born.
- 29:51Speaker 2: I'm leading you into it. He was born in nineteen
- 29:53Speaker 2: oh one and he died in nineteen fifty nine. Toime,
- 29:55Speaker 2: I'm not an old man when he died. He was
- 29:57Speaker 2: not even sixty at that stage. And if you look
- 30:01Speaker 2: at Germany between nineteen oh one and nineteen fifty, Yeah,
- 30:05Speaker 2: we got a story to tell here, buddy.
- 30:07Speaker 1: So I mean, like many things and I have nothing open.
- 30:11Speaker 1: You sprung him on me, and I got excited straight
- 30:13Speaker 1: tow it, because anything to do with tools I'm gonna
- 30:14Speaker 1: get excited about. So I did, I want you to
- 30:16Speaker 1: tell me everything is like where does like where?
- 30:20Speaker 2: How?
- 30:21Speaker 1: He can't have just decided nobody in Knight. Let's say
- 30:23Speaker 1: he's twenty two and he gets up and going as
- 30:26Speaker 1: an engineer or whatever, he mechanic or whatever. He was
- 30:29Speaker 1: Nobody in nineteen twenty four, was looking for their yard
- 30:33Speaker 1: to be powerwashed.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Er, well, you know, you'd be very surprised, Tom, you'd
- 30:36Speaker 2: be very surprised. But first and foremost, no, nobody was
- 30:39Speaker 2: looking for their you ad to be powerwashed there when
- 30:41Speaker 2: young Alfred in nineteen thirty five was what was there?
- 30:45Speaker 1: Like?
- 30:46Speaker 2: Nobody was thirty four thirty some odd years of age,
- 30:48Speaker 2: along with his father, founded the Alfred character Okay, here
- 30:52Speaker 2: we go, let me stretch up here for this one.
- 30:54Speaker 1: So nineteen thirty five, you say, nineteen thirty five the
- 30:57Speaker 1: Alfred character color our uniforms at the world, at the workplace.
- 31:00Speaker 1: I wonder Mardy Brown.
- 31:04Speaker 2: He founded the Alfred character commanded, you'll sell shaft command
- 31:10Speaker 2: this yet No, no, fuck it the Alfred Character company.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Fuck it. I don't know, I can't. That is like
- 31:15Speaker 2: the lungest word I have ever seen in my goddamn life.
- 31:18Speaker 1: Ah.
- 31:19Speaker 2: And they did not make powerwasher's brother, They made emersion heaters.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Right, Okay, well, okay, do you know what I mean?
- 31:28Speaker 2: Like, do you know there's something just telling me Tom
- 31:30Speaker 2: as I as I as I learned that today, there's
- 31:33Speaker 2: something just telling me that I might have sold in
- 31:37Speaker 2: my life in the hardware shops immersion heaters with the
- 31:41Speaker 2: character logo on.
- 31:41Speaker 1: I'll be surprised as they walked away from it. I mean,
- 31:43Speaker 1: still a thing that's required at the minute, or do.
- 31:45Speaker 2: You know the yeah that the willis flasks, So I
- 31:49Speaker 2: don't know, I'm gonna have to just just just when
- 31:52Speaker 2: I read that, I was just like, oh yeah, fuck yeah,
- 31:54Speaker 2: remember character anyway, regardless of which, they were rocking and
- 31:57Speaker 2: rolling in nineteen thirty nine, done done, done, when all
- 32:04Speaker 2: of a sudden nothing happened. It was a great time
- 32:06Speaker 2: and everybody had fun. Ninety thirty nine from World War Two.
- 32:09Speaker 2: You know, we had this when we did tool Box
- 32:10Speaker 2: Heroes last time that Bosh did their best to stay
- 32:17Speaker 2: out of the war. And they're like, oh, no, shit, no,
- 32:20Speaker 2: I guess we got to make windscreen wipers for a character.
- 32:27Speaker 2: Was he was there because he was so specialized in
- 32:31Speaker 2: immersion heaters and whatnot. They said, if you can heat
- 32:35Speaker 2: an immersion then you can heat the wings and tail
- 32:40Speaker 2: units of the Luftwaffe if they ice up.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Well, you know what, that's any of the engineer, I
- 32:46Speaker 1: don't care who you are, that's a challenge. Do you
- 32:48Speaker 1: know you're gonna go Hey, you know what, let me
- 32:51Speaker 1: have that. And you know what, and this is like
- 32:54Speaker 1: I've heard people kind of get busy about you know,
- 32:56Speaker 1: who worked during the war and stuff. Yeah, you have
- 32:59Speaker 1: no problem with up and driving around v w's. It's
- 33:01Speaker 1: no problem with driving around BMW's. And by the way,
- 33:04Speaker 1: the amount of American companies that were on both sides,
- 33:08Speaker 1: and but they were funding both sides through products, and
- 33:12Speaker 1: then when when the war ended, the American they retracted
- 33:17Speaker 1: and their American ones just sued Germany for lots of
- 33:21Speaker 1: lots of earnings because the war had ended over. You know, so,
- 33:25Speaker 1: I I you gotta make a book.
- 33:27Speaker 2: You gotta make a book. But I'm gonn tell you something, Tom.
- 33:30Speaker 2: It sticks in my fucking crawl that these lads worked
- 33:33Speaker 2: through the war and put and profited from the war
- 33:36Speaker 2: effort in Germany and still to this day are charging
- 33:40Speaker 2: me fucking three you know what I mean?
- 33:43Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm gonna put it?
- 33:45Speaker 2: Really improfitable? No, you did pretty good fucking streak there
- 33:47Speaker 2: for ten years.
- 33:48Speaker 1: Last. Look, if the fure has a gun to your
- 33:50Speaker 1: head that says you have to make my things warm,
- 33:52Speaker 1: you got the fuck right? Fine?
- 33:56Speaker 2: Allright? Okay, And I suppose if our hands are four,
- 34:00Speaker 2: then we better do all our manufacturing in Russian, Polish, French.
- 34:05Speaker 2: It's described here tom work camps.
- 34:08Speaker 1: So no, but they were clean as work camps in
- 34:13Speaker 1: all of Europe, I'm.
- 34:14Speaker 2: Gonna tell you so. Not only were they making you know,
- 34:19Speaker 2: wing warmers for the love and like little fan heaters
- 34:22Speaker 2: for the pans or no for the the foker aircraft.
- 34:27Speaker 2: You know, if you were cool and you turned on
- 34:28Speaker 2: a heater, it's a character, you know. Those pilots are like,
- 34:33Speaker 2: oh God, we love we love character. We love it
- 34:35Speaker 2: all day. They were also making we cookers like it
- 34:39Speaker 2: seems to be just like whatever the equivalent of an
- 34:42Speaker 2: air frier was back in the day, like small household
- 34:44Speaker 2: equipment for warming up your sausages and share.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Well, look chair, I mean to the victor's go the
- 34:51Speaker 1: it tells the story like I'm just like to shake off,
- 34:56Speaker 1: to shake I'm not excusing working for fuel, but what
- 35:01Speaker 1: I'm saying is to shake off that funk and come
- 35:03Speaker 1: out the back end of it still selling powerwashers to
- 35:06Speaker 1: Jeremy Bryden, Ireland. Yeah know, in the in the two thousands,
- 35:10Speaker 1: it's good going, that's good going in anybody's book. That's
- 35:14Speaker 1: good going. General, that's quite a that's quite a funk
- 35:17Speaker 1: to shake off yourself there. So he went anyway, So
- 35:19Speaker 1: the war, the war ended, he had a fast turnaround
- 35:21Speaker 1: because I mean he only died in the He died
- 35:23Speaker 1: in his fifty so he had a fast turnaround to
- 35:26Speaker 1: make a state of the art household name like well.
- 35:30Speaker 2: Tom twist goodthubn good tubbin. But did he But did
- 35:36Speaker 2: he Tom? Because no? Yes. In nineteen fifty Character started
- 35:40Speaker 2: to develop the first domestic high pressure cleaner, and they
- 35:45Speaker 2: were hot water cleaner. So I guess there would be
- 35:50Speaker 2: we would use today for washing out milk and parallels
- 35:53Speaker 2: and shit like that. Yeah, yeah, whatever the equivalent of
- 35:55Speaker 2: that is. You're not going to wash You're not a
- 35:57Speaker 2: power hos in your yard with.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Hot No, but you yeah you can. You can get
- 36:03Speaker 1: those all right, And they pretty much had their own.
- 36:04Speaker 1: It's again the immersion heater exactly.
- 36:07Speaker 2: That's what they're doing. It's electric delivered really fast. Yeah
- 36:10Speaker 2: yeah yeah, But it wouldn't have been I dare say
- 36:13Speaker 2: for domestic use.
- 36:15Speaker 1: No, this thing probably either came around in the truck
- 36:17Speaker 1: or a man had to come and build it on
- 36:19Speaker 1: your site, and it was.
- 36:21Speaker 2: For it was for cleaning out. I'm saying milk and parlors.
- 36:25Speaker 2: I wonder what else Germany wanted to clean out in
- 36:28Speaker 2: a hurry round about that time.
- 36:29Speaker 1: Do you know they're still their souls? I imagine, yeah.
- 36:34Speaker 1: But look, he was a man for all corners of
- 36:36Speaker 1: the war. It would see.
- 36:37Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, and he was then a man
- 36:39Speaker 2: for all corners of a coffin because in nineteen fifty
- 36:41Speaker 2: nine he died of a heart attack.
- 36:44Speaker 1: He developed a domestic sold thing.
- 36:49Speaker 2: That's the twist, because that's when all of a sudden,
- 36:51Speaker 2: this lad becomes this lady Irene, Irene Charter. That's an
- 36:58Speaker 2: Irene character. That's a great name of the business.
- 37:02Speaker 1: I bet I just imagine her hair done like you know,
- 37:05Speaker 1: a real Hilda from back in the day, like like
- 37:09Speaker 1: just curled up at the sides, stripped doc clothes only making.
- 37:16Speaker 2: Of the time. I'm just like, you know, she was
- 37:18Speaker 2: either like a books and Blonde in an SS uniform
- 37:22Speaker 2: or like a house frow, you know, waving.
- 37:25Speaker 1: A role in Books and Blonde, because you know, he'd
- 37:29Speaker 1: made a name for himself.
- 37:30Speaker 2: Well, regardless of which, she was one smart cookie because
- 37:33Speaker 2: she increased revenue by seventy percent. For a woman to
- 37:37Speaker 2: do that in the fifties year after so her husband
- 37:41Speaker 2: was taken along doing all right, doing rightly, and she
- 37:43Speaker 2: was just like, I'm going to raise revenue by seventy percent.
- 37:47Speaker 2: Post war Germany, post like the fall.
- 37:51Speaker 1: Like to be able to do that, That's what I'm saying,
- 37:54Speaker 1: like to shake off the funk. Germany went into a
- 37:57Speaker 1: fucking spiral, downward spired after both wars and prior to
- 38:01Speaker 1: the First War, they went in that downward spiral. They
- 38:05Speaker 1: weren't the recovery was only for the rich really at
- 38:08Speaker 1: the time, I well, for hard to take what would
- 38:11Speaker 1: have been I guess, to go domestic when people hadn't
- 38:15Speaker 1: a part to pisson like, rather than trying.
- 38:17Speaker 2: To go to the strict domestic just yet Tom, but
- 38:20Speaker 2: you know, for large business councils and all this kind
- 38:24Speaker 2: of thing, like when when when characters were selling powerwashers
- 38:28Speaker 2: back then they were selling like powerwashers to the councils
- 38:32Speaker 2: to clean buildings and clean graffiti and and and do
- 38:36Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
- 38:37Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just looked up the word powerwasher in German.
- 38:42Speaker 2: I do that what I couldn't pronounce up the way.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Oh I'm just part of this word. I'm not saying
- 38:47Speaker 1: out loud. Fucking no, it's a wash oh wreck Ryan, No, No,
- 38:56Speaker 1: that will cancel the that will cancel it.
- 38:58Speaker 2: I just anybody go no one side of caution with that. People.
- 39:02Speaker 1: You go and just look for the translation powerwasher to
- 39:06Speaker 1: German and have a look. Why Tom didn't try.
- 39:08Speaker 2: It led the company to strength upon strength and built
- 39:16Speaker 2: it into the global powerhouse that it is today. She
- 39:20Speaker 2: established offices all over the Shengan area, so the Germans
- 39:24Speaker 2: made it throughout mainland Europe by fucking herker by crokr body,
- 39:27Speaker 2: and then in nineteen seventy five opened their first production
- 39:31Speaker 2: facility outside Germany in Brazil. Not beating the fucking allegations here, lad,
- 39:36Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much.
- 39:37Speaker 1: Wow, they went to Brazil. Interesting Argentina, a very interesting.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Argentine is a little too on the nose, Lad, go
- 39:45Speaker 2: a foot to.
- 39:45Speaker 1: The right, Yeah, because you know there would be conspiracies
- 39:50Speaker 1: to say that they went there too. It's quite a
- 39:52Speaker 1: big place, Jesus, all the places to go.
- 39:57Speaker 2: What the fuck was wrong with Egypt? I'm gonna tell you, Look,
- 40:00Speaker 2: what do I know what do I know about the
- 40:02Speaker 2: production of powerwashers for large scale cancel purposes and becoming
- 40:07Speaker 2: the number one name in power washers until nineteen eighty five.
- 40:11Speaker 2: Tom nineteen eighty five is when the first high pressure
- 40:15Speaker 2: cleaner for domestic use started to roll out in the shops.
- 40:20Speaker 1: And is it is it still owned by character?
- 40:23Speaker 2: Did they like it is still owned by character? Yes,
- 40:25Speaker 2: the character has passed away in nineteen eighty nineties. Well
- 40:28Speaker 2: the excuse me, but like children, grandchildren, holy like that.
- 40:35Speaker 1: In anybody's eyes, I think this lad is actually irene
- 40:39Speaker 1: because oh yeah, no, absolutely the visits.
- 40:42Speaker 2: Snatched the ball there and move. That was the twist
- 40:44Speaker 2: in the middle of it all together.
- 40:46Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, Like, it's one thing to
- 40:47Speaker 1: start with the old man and then all of a
- 40:49Speaker 1: sudden a war o starts as they just need your stuff.
- 40:53Speaker 1: You're like, okay, well there's no even sales and marketing here,
- 40:56Speaker 1: it's just you need my stuff. I'm going to make
- 40:58Speaker 1: your stuff. But the war friends Germany's not got a
- 41:01Speaker 1: great name at the time. He dies, and she takes
- 41:06Speaker 1: the ball by herself as a woman in the fifties
- 41:10Speaker 1: and turns it into a fucking global household name monster
- 41:14Speaker 1: like that is not I'll be it. I'm not saying
- 41:18Speaker 1: like you're saying, there's still entirely one but by the Watchman.
- 41:21Speaker 1: I was almost said owned by the fewer, but it's
- 41:23Speaker 1: owned by the family. And yes, so we can assume
- 41:27Speaker 1: that there's very little official investment came in. But hm hmm,
- 41:34Speaker 1: just the very fact that the first place they went
- 41:36Speaker 1: to was fine North America Brazil. Immediately there was like
- 41:46Speaker 1: what did you call him, like an angel investor, like
- 41:48Speaker 1: a mentor, So there was a mentor somewhere there, just
- 41:52Speaker 1: not saying that Irene needed a hand and go girl
- 41:54Speaker 1: power and all the rest of them both.
- 41:56Speaker 2: Someone had boots on the ground in South America. It
- 41:58Speaker 2: was friendly to German business, which is what what what in.
- 42:02Speaker 1: The business world, it would call it open a soft,
- 42:05Speaker 1: soft meeting between the two. That's because it's a big jump, now,
- 42:10Speaker 1: big jump to go all the way to Germany and
- 42:13Speaker 1: across four time zones and end up in Brazil. So
- 42:19Speaker 1: I'm interesting. It would be a very interesting to do
- 42:22Speaker 1: a proper investigation into something like that and how they
- 42:25Speaker 1: ended up where they ended up. But then what you'd
- 42:27Speaker 1: probably open it up would be BMW shut you down,
- 42:32Speaker 1: all these other ones just going.
- 42:33Speaker 2: You know, I got to tell you we're we're in
- 42:36Speaker 2: too deep already.
- 42:36Speaker 1: We need that type of podcast. Yeah, much like I
- 42:41Speaker 1: take the ball and run with it yourselves.
- 42:43Speaker 2: I mean, like, you know, be the be the be,
- 42:45Speaker 2: the be the winner you want to be. And we
- 42:48Speaker 2: hope that's a little interesting nuggets of information for you
- 42:51Speaker 2: about the history of the Character Family while you're powawashing
- 42:55Speaker 2: your backyard.
- 42:56Speaker 1: The Character Family. It makes them sound like they're going
- 42:58Speaker 1: to be like a a Bible musical group, doesn't it.
- 43:03Speaker 2: Like yeah and.
- 43:06Speaker 1: Pray, Oh, it's the Character Family. I love them. I
- 43:08Speaker 1: love them very clean, very clean, not dorek on them
- 43:11Speaker 1: people at all.
- 43:12Speaker 2: There you go, they have exceptionally good washers. Listen, there
- 43:18Speaker 2: you go a little bit of a history lesson of
- 43:21Speaker 2: the Character Family down through World War Two and beyond.
- 43:24Speaker 2: But me and Tom like to take you on another
- 43:26Speaker 2: little history lesson to the wrap up of the Tom
- 43:28Speaker 2: and Jerry Show. Here Every week, when we look back
- 43:30Speaker 2: on the things that have changed in our lives from
- 43:34Speaker 2: the early eighties when we were born to whatever the
- 43:36Speaker 2: fuck year this is now, we look back on it
- 43:39Speaker 2: all in our closing segment. We remember when when I
- 43:43Speaker 2: was a young lad twenty or thirty or forty years ago.
- 43:47Speaker 1: This again as it came about really as a result
- 43:52Speaker 1: of a current happening, because I sent Jerry on an
- 43:57Speaker 1: article the other day and I just I'm going to
- 43:59Speaker 1: get it up judge a second quote it right, so
- 44:02Speaker 1: it would seem there was a viral video. There was
- 44:09Speaker 1: a viral video went around quite recently, and it's of
- 44:13Speaker 1: a squirrel vaping in a park. I don't Yeah, everybody's vaping.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Some people are saying it's not real and stuff like that,
- 44:24Speaker 1: but I've seen squirrels and they i'd squirrels rip open
- 44:28Speaker 1: bird feeders. They're little. Anything that has hens in the
- 44:31Speaker 1: animal kingdom is letal, do you know what I mean?
- 44:34Speaker 1: It's little. You'll see monkey smoking and the people go, well,
- 44:38Speaker 1: I don't know if the course is because of the
- 44:41Speaker 1: fruity flavors. That definitely if the one the picture that
- 44:44Speaker 1: went viral isn't the one, I guarantee a squirrel somewhere
- 44:47Speaker 1: in the world. I've met some of the most aggressive
- 44:49Speaker 1: squirrels when I lived in America, Like proper, I'm fucking
- 44:53Speaker 1: walking the squirl. Yeah, Like if seagulls have learned in
- 44:59Speaker 1: double to steal a sandwich and a chip straight out
- 45:02Speaker 1: of your hand while you're about to put in your mouth.
- 45:04Speaker 1: I promise your squirrels are vaping and what this kind
- 45:08Speaker 1: of and they're.
- 45:08Speaker 2: In a good company. Tom. Now everybody's vaping.
- 45:11Speaker 1: Tom, You vape, brother, Yeah, yeah, yeah, less and less
- 45:15Speaker 1: these days, thank god. I'm putting it away more and
- 45:16Speaker 1: more these days. But it doesn't it doesn't seem to
- 45:20Speaker 1: It's quite a low dosage and everything in it.
- 45:23Speaker 2: That sure, that's what we wanted to talk about here,
- 45:26Speaker 2: and we remember when. Yeah, actual fact, I got to
- 45:28Speaker 2: lean on you here, buddy, because the subject about today
- 45:31Speaker 2: is smoking because you are a smoker. Tom. You've been
- 45:34Speaker 2: a smoker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have ever been a smoker.
- 45:36Speaker 2: I've smoked maybe ten cigars in my whole long life.
- 45:40Speaker 1: Ah, you're missing out, you're missing out. It was It's
- 45:44Speaker 1: fantastic because smoke.
- 45:46Speaker 2: And I just wanted to I just wanted to ask you, Tom,
- 45:48Speaker 2: because you were at the forefront of this here now
- 45:50Speaker 2: of smoking as a smoker over the last thirty forty years.
- 45:56Speaker 2: You might just think, well, yeah, you know, Spencer and
- 45:59Speaker 2: the hedges, all the air every day. No, No, that's
- 46:00Speaker 2: what it used to be. That's what your dad started
- 46:02Speaker 2: smoking Benson and Hedges in the fifties and smoking on
- 46:04Speaker 2: the little nineties or whatever like that. Straight through, Tom,
- 46:08Speaker 2: you've had an whole manner of nicotine delivery systems, whether
- 46:11Speaker 2: to smoke better, smoke worse, smoke less, or just get
- 46:15Speaker 2: fucking more of it in you.
- 46:16Speaker 1: That's the thing it there was. I suppose it probably
- 46:22Speaker 1: came about when they finally had to admit that they
- 46:24Speaker 1: weren't good for you. Do you remember when that that
- 46:26Speaker 1: movie do you know what I mean?
- 46:29Speaker 2: No, Tom, they were saying that in the fifties.
- 46:31Speaker 1: Ah, but you know that was just rival gangs, that's all.
- 46:34Speaker 1: It was just rival gangs. There was a moment there
- 46:36Speaker 1: mental ones. They're supposed to be good for you and stuff,
- 46:38Speaker 1: but where they were just was never It was definitely
- 46:41Speaker 1: never admitted by the cigarette companies, you know what I mean.
- 46:43Speaker 1: They didn't have to write any warnings on the packs.
- 46:45Speaker 2: We have seen a lot of changing cigarettes down through
- 46:47Speaker 2: the years. Well, let me ask you a question, Tom, Now,
- 46:49Speaker 2: when did you start smoking?
- 46:51Speaker 1: Probably had the odd fag in school, you know, the
- 46:56Speaker 1: bolcks like and that's the thing that would happen then
- 46:59Speaker 1: really a couple of you know, it's smoking a bit
- 47:02Speaker 1: in college when you drink and stuff like that, but
- 47:05Speaker 1: it wasn't a still like an into construction really and
- 47:07Speaker 1: then it's all out, it's all out.
- 47:10Speaker 2: And here here's the here's the thing right with smoking
- 47:13Speaker 2: back in the day, even the packs, as you mentioned there,
- 47:16Speaker 2: the packs look completely different. Both my parents smoked and
- 47:20Speaker 2: it was just a colorful pack of cigarettes with no warnings, nothing,
- 47:25Speaker 2: legs cut off.
- 47:27Speaker 1: I smoked. I smokeding, actually smoked. Do you know what happened?
- 47:30Speaker 1: I brightly smoked in the summer. I went to America
- 47:34Speaker 1: right because they were like the the my boss, she
- 47:39Speaker 1: was the captain of the security company, and because with
- 47:43Speaker 1: all ranks they were being America. They did it really
- 47:46Speaker 1: for the top, over the top. But she used to
- 47:49Speaker 1: buy me cartains. They were like American Spirit or something
- 47:54Speaker 1: like that. To me, it tasted exactly like Marlboro lights
- 47:58Speaker 1: and it was for nothing then full white filter and
- 48:01Speaker 1: everything felt like one of the Golden Girls or something.
- 48:03Speaker 1: I was smoking with her out the back, but it
- 48:05Speaker 1: was they were I fucked. I'm gonna say it out loud.
- 48:09Speaker 1: They had a big gold eagle on them. They were
- 48:12Speaker 1: cool as shit.
- 48:15Speaker 2: Shit, So like little by little, more and more stickers
- 48:20Speaker 2: started appearing. One I remember, like this is how far
- 48:23Speaker 2: back I'll go. I remember there came like a little
- 48:26Speaker 2: white stamp on a pack of cigarettes and it's still
- 48:28Speaker 2: on it to this day. And it's some sort of
- 48:30Speaker 2: customs sort of thing.
- 48:32Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and it used to have them, which
- 48:35Speaker 1: she used to be able to get ten packsture. One
- 48:37Speaker 1: stage you could buy a single cigarette. You could buy
- 48:39Speaker 1: a single cigarette, yeah yeah, and the like it's it's
- 48:44Speaker 1: it's slowly but surely, like more horrific pictures of lungs
- 48:47Speaker 1: and dead children around the front of packets, and it
- 48:50Speaker 1: didn't determine, deteriorate any of your yearnings for a cigarette,
- 48:55Speaker 1: did knock back nothing. It were wasting their time and
- 48:58Speaker 1: like I said, it didn't really. It wasn't an admission
- 49:00Speaker 1: by the cigarette companies. Philip marri has been the I suppose,
- 49:03Speaker 1: the king of them all. There was no real admission
- 49:05Speaker 1: that until the retailing was in that that film was
- 49:09Speaker 1: the Informer with or The Insider with Russell Crow. Yeah yeah,
- 49:16Speaker 1: he blew the whistle basically on the cigarette companies, and
- 49:18Speaker 1: they finally had to come around and go, yeah, okay,
- 49:19Speaker 1: we're putting two thousand chemicals into him, and I'd switched
- 49:23Speaker 1: to like rollies, you know, which is I mean, it
- 49:25Speaker 1: was just raw tobacco, you know what I mean, And
- 49:27Speaker 1: it would slow you down because you actually had to stop.
- 49:28Speaker 1: And if it's fucking raining, which it was a lot
- 49:30Speaker 1: of construction, you just didn't have one. So they weren't
- 49:33Speaker 1: that easy easily accessed. But I do remember I remember
- 49:37Speaker 1: the smoking band coming in into bars and stuff like that,
- 49:39Speaker 1: and it was this apros like, what the fuck kind
- 49:41Speaker 1: of nunny state of we turning, of course, offered lows
- 49:45Speaker 1: of opportunities to small builders who went on building extensions
- 49:47Speaker 1: with vent you know. And then of course they stopped smoking.
- 49:51Speaker 1: You can't be smoking in a cafe or a restaurant,
- 49:53Speaker 1: what the fucks now? Smoking on planes had been stopped
- 49:56Speaker 1: a long time, so I kind of understood there was
- 50:00Speaker 1: places you couldn't smoke. So as time went on in
- 50:04Speaker 1: the construction industry, it's too easy. Everybody smoked, and if
- 50:07Speaker 1: you have to talk to a guy, which I did,
- 50:08Speaker 1: I had to go around the whole huge fucking site
- 50:11Speaker 1: of one hundred and eighty acres, talk to different men
- 50:13Speaker 1: and at every point talk about it. Stop what they
- 50:16Speaker 1: were doing, whether it was on the shovel, laying a
- 50:18Speaker 1: pipe on a digger, they'd all stop and go, don't
- 50:24Speaker 1: go away, got right, and you would find yourself doing
- 50:27Speaker 1: the same thing before you know it. Then you're a
- 50:29Speaker 1: figure two in. You're going right, so we know it's
- 50:31Speaker 1: grand and you're a wake and two fangs have been
- 50:33Speaker 1: had in this conversation. So there was an it was
- 50:35Speaker 1: an epidemic of cigarette smoking. And you'd see the odds
- 50:39Speaker 1: sign going up in an office and the going too
- 50:41Speaker 1: much smoking and you need to look after your head.
- 50:43Speaker 1: But we have some cartoony sign that. Of course, the
- 50:45Speaker 1: construction industry were harangued into putting up around but they
- 50:48Speaker 1: didn't give a shit.
- 50:49Speaker 2: It didn't give a you know what I mean, don't
- 50:52Speaker 2: wear hard hats space where sh it's been dropped directly on.
- 50:55Speaker 1: Yeah, so fags are the we can keep them off
- 50:58Speaker 1: the fucking heroin. That'll be good, right, So Tom, tell
- 51:02Speaker 1: me when was your first attempt?
- 51:05Speaker 2: I can failed, but.
- 51:07Speaker 1: Yeah I did fail because I can never I can
- 51:09Speaker 1: remember it. It was would have been two thousand and five,
- 51:13Speaker 1: maybe two thousand and five at this stage, and I
- 51:16Speaker 1: can remember coming off them and I was using patches
- 51:19Speaker 1: brought up nicarette.
- 51:21Speaker 2: Our patch is still a thing. They are, They are
- 51:23Speaker 2: still a thing, and and and and like you knowing
- 51:28Speaker 2: Tom wouldn't know what a nicorette patch was. But that
- 51:30Speaker 2: was like a little sticker that you stuck on your
- 51:32Speaker 2: arm exactly slowly leaked nicotine inch your system right.
- 51:36Speaker 1: And I think I must have gotten too strong of one,
- 51:39Speaker 1: like there wasn't. I was trying to gauge how many
- 51:40Speaker 1: cigarettes I smoke versus what I need, because there were
- 51:42Speaker 1: different strengths of them, okay, And I can remember putting
- 51:45Speaker 1: one on my arm and my whole fucking arm bean
- 51:48Speaker 1: like I got punched. It was dead for the day.
- 51:50Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck? You peel this thing off?
- 51:53Speaker 1: And this ship had been leaching into your skin. I
- 51:56Speaker 1: just fucking, oh my god. Produced there was still the
- 52:00Speaker 1: twiddly fingers. It was too much of a habit built in,
- 52:03Speaker 1: so really the time to do would be like when
- 52:05Speaker 1: you were taking two weeks holidays is just breaking the habit.
- 52:07Speaker 1: And I remember that time we'd lasted almost a month
- 52:12Speaker 1: going and I was going maybe maybe over these things
- 52:16Speaker 1: and just something happened. It was like a Friday, and
- 52:19Speaker 1: I can remember. The guy's name was Marking some coved.
- 52:22Speaker 1: He was built like a fucking three ton digger and
- 52:24Speaker 1: he was down on a trench and he just went
- 52:26Speaker 1: fig and my hand went out, took it and had
- 52:29Speaker 1: it lit before I realized yeah, and I got all
- 52:33Speaker 1: light headed, and ever then, any normal rational person listened
- 52:36Speaker 1: to as would go. Of course, it felt disgusting. You
- 52:39Speaker 1: walked away from all together. I went absolutely not if anything.
- 52:42Speaker 1: That cigarette had two little grappling hooks, and I I went, gotcha, gotcha, dying, gotcha.
- 52:48Speaker 2: Here's the thing with the patches, though, I wonder what
- 52:52Speaker 2: kind of effect they would have had on someone who
- 52:54Speaker 2: had never smoked before.
- 52:55Speaker 1: In our life, this is a question we often asked, like,
- 52:57Speaker 1: I would imagine they'd make you violently sick. I would
- 53:00Speaker 1: imagine it was such an overload. Now here's the thing,
- 53:03Speaker 1: Much like anything with the word en at the end
- 53:05Speaker 1: of a caffeine toring, you know they're they're a stimulant,
- 53:10Speaker 1: so not nicotine. Nicotine by itself only clear nicotine is
- 53:15Speaker 1: actually not terrible for you. It's not good for you,
- 53:18Speaker 1: but it's not terrible for you. It's all the shit
- 53:21Speaker 1: that the cigarette companies put in it to flavor keep
- 53:24Speaker 1: it lit preservedly from rotting in the box while it's
- 53:27Speaker 1: sitting on a fucking port somewhere. They it's stolen by
- 53:30Speaker 1: the Italians, let's make and the amount of addictive chemicals
- 53:34Speaker 1: that they put into it, Like a one stage cigarettes
- 53:36Speaker 1: has something close to this, eighteen hundred different touches of
- 53:39Speaker 1: chemicals in them, like the cigarette you get in a box.
- 53:42Speaker 1: Horrendous fucking things all to get their hooks into you.
- 53:45Speaker 1: And I remember that cigarette. It was like a silk cutter.
- 53:47Speaker 1: It was a silk god. I even remember that. It
- 53:49Speaker 1: was fucking grotesque, but I horsed into it anyway, light
- 53:53Speaker 1: headed out for a couple of pints that night. Sure
- 53:56Speaker 1: you're gone, but I tried the gum then at that
- 54:00Speaker 1: that did fuck on. You saw together.
- 54:03Speaker 2: Again, that's just like a literally like nicotine chewy.
- 54:07Speaker 1: Yeah, just like a chew. It was a chew. It
- 54:11Speaker 1: made no sense at all. It was the problem was
- 54:13Speaker 1: my environment. If I was working in an office, I
- 54:15Speaker 1: think I probably would have had much better success because
- 54:18Speaker 1: there's only a designated time. You can't speak while you're
- 54:22Speaker 1: working in construction. You fucking can no problem. Very liberating
- 54:27Speaker 1: when you think about it, but trying to come off
- 54:30Speaker 1: the fags back in the day when every horse seemed
- 54:33Speaker 1: to fucking smoke, and you're talking to all these horse
- 54:36Speaker 1: I only dealt with outdoor stuff. I didn't deal with
- 54:39Speaker 1: anything indoors. Once it the roof went up, I'm out
- 54:42Speaker 1: of business. I wanted the next thing, groundworks, diggers, and
- 54:45Speaker 1: I'll never forget. One of my favorite people, Lord of
- 54:48Speaker 1: Marker sent Me, died only recently and he he reverenced
- 54:52Speaker 1: him on this show before. His name was Dick Shelley
- 54:54Speaker 1: was an execator driver from the hone. He was nor
- 54:58Speaker 1: Tipperary these Tipperaries, well, no north East it would be yeah,
- 55:03Speaker 1: I mean Nortis Tipperaries. Answer to Fred Dibner the traction engines,
- 55:08Speaker 1: but far more foul mouthed, hilarious. Used to come out
- 55:12Speaker 1: with phrases year that we're just I've actually got a
- 55:15Speaker 1: bank of him that I'm gonna I'm gonna do it
- 55:17Speaker 1: in a show some year. But he he used to smoke,
- 55:20Speaker 1: damn near a full pouch of old Holborn, which was
- 55:24Speaker 1: notoriously strong. It was nearly as strong as pipe tobacca. Yeah,
- 55:28Speaker 1: he would smoke nearly a full pouch of that in
- 55:30Speaker 1: an entire day. This excavator driver called Dick and he
- 55:35Speaker 1: was being told by friends of families had to come
- 55:37Speaker 1: off the facts. There comes a certain point, tip and point,
- 55:41Speaker 1: and we've all heard of Nannette that smoked. She was
- 55:44Speaker 1: ninety eight and she came off of from one day.
- 55:46Speaker 1: She died because the body just what you know. And
- 55:49Speaker 1: Dick was me in told left right and Cindria had
- 55:50Speaker 1: to come off the cigarettes. And I'll never forget.
- 55:52Speaker 2: I went, you're not going to come off Jizabeth.
- 55:56Speaker 1: And he went to a hypnotist, which were big at
- 55:59Speaker 1: the time.
- 56:00Speaker 2: Okay, go on.
- 56:01Speaker 1: So he went to hypnotist. And I was intrigued with
- 56:04Speaker 1: this because it was like maybe I go myself. But
- 56:05Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I figured I was good
- 56:07Speaker 1: to this fellow'll do nothing for me. And there comes
- 56:12Speaker 1: upon Dick was trying to describe to me this guy
- 56:14Speaker 1: was had him holding imaginary balloons in his hand and
- 56:17Speaker 1: he was fucking no time, but he was he had
- 56:19Speaker 1: no tobacco with him, right, So I'm like, so you're
- 56:22Speaker 1: off the fags that man for two days. It was
- 56:25Speaker 1: almost like you you put you put some sort of
- 56:31Speaker 1: malware into a high performing computer. It was still kind
- 56:35Speaker 1: of working. But something was way off. Something was something
- 56:39Speaker 1: was direct like, something was off. He was just where
- 56:43Speaker 1: he was normally sharp and sparky, and he was always
- 56:45Speaker 1: with the quick quips. He was like a guy who
- 56:48Speaker 1: just wasn't there, you know what I mean. He was
- 56:51Speaker 1: just not right, Like he was like what and it
- 56:54Speaker 1: was me By the day day three, I'm like, I
- 56:57Speaker 1: think we both think you need to go back in
- 56:58Speaker 1: the cigarettes. He's like yeah, And he lived another ripe
- 57:01Speaker 1: age he lived. I could assume he was sixty. He
- 57:04Speaker 1: lived into his eighties. Like you know what I mean, Well,
- 57:06Speaker 1: smoking happy comes a tipping point where you smoke so
- 57:09Speaker 1: much where you just can't come off them. But the
- 57:11Speaker 1: hypnotist one was always the one.
- 57:12Speaker 2: The hypnotist actually, you know, that's the very purpose of
- 57:15Speaker 2: we remember when, because every now and then it'll just
- 57:17Speaker 2: throw something up that will really flash something very very
- 57:21Speaker 2: big in your brain. Like fuck, yes, I'd forgotten all that.
- 57:24Speaker 2: That was a big thing.
- 57:25Speaker 1: They were making money. They were making they were making
- 57:27Speaker 1: hypnotists all over the country were making money getting people
- 57:30Speaker 1: off the smokes.
- 57:31Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like two thousand and four, two thousand
- 57:33Speaker 2: and five, like there came a wave of that through. Yeah,
- 57:35Speaker 2: and I guess I guess it talies with the smoking
- 57:37Speaker 2: ban and people being just all of a sudden, like
- 57:40Speaker 2: the mid two thousands was really where we were like
- 57:42Speaker 2: and you want to say, ninety state governments and all
- 57:44Speaker 2: this kind of tract They really were just saying like,
- 57:46Speaker 2: we cannot build hospitals quick enough for the rate that
- 57:50Speaker 2: people are going to them from smoking related illnesses. But
- 57:53Speaker 2: we do love that smoking revenue. Is there a halfway house?
- 57:56Speaker 2: Is there something we can have? Yeahgan throwing a smoking
- 57:59Speaker 2: ban here here and here, and at least we'll we'll
- 58:01Speaker 2: we'll slow it down a little bit. But I remember
- 58:04Speaker 2: a lot of people going to hypnotists and and and
- 58:08Speaker 2: they come around and they go to like the hotels,
- 58:10Speaker 2: Like so there'll be the smoking hypnotist is going to
- 58:12Speaker 2: be in the Glen Carn next week.
- 58:14Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'd be like.
- 58:16Speaker 2: You going turn to town just selling out shows.
- 58:20Speaker 1: Yeah, it was amazing, Like he know, he had to
- 58:23Speaker 1: get an appointment for this guy. But I do remember,
- 58:26Speaker 1: like you said, to be a guy he's going to
- 58:28Speaker 1: be there between the you know, whatever in a certain hotel,
- 58:30Speaker 1: and it was a thing because people were worried coming
- 58:33Speaker 1: off them, and there was I remember there was one
- 58:36Speaker 1: thing you could get. It was a tablet you could
- 58:40Speaker 1: actually get prescribed. It's cause, uh, Champicks. What's the name
- 58:44Speaker 1: of the Champics Champis. I'm sure there was like a
- 58:48Speaker 1: that might be a brand name, you know. I mean
- 58:50Speaker 1: it was champ Picks or Chanticks or he was Champicks,
- 58:54Speaker 1: I'm nearly sure. And a couple of lads tried it
- 58:56Speaker 1: and it just made him super fucking It didn't really
- 58:59Speaker 1: knock back ravings all that much, but it made him
- 59:01Speaker 1: super fucking ill.
- 59:03Speaker 2: Yeah, it is Champicks. It's like it's like the champions.
- 59:08Speaker 2: It's like smoking.
- 59:09Speaker 1: I guess we're supposed to knock back your cravings. So
- 59:12Speaker 1: it's like the ozen pic of fags back in the day.
- 59:15Speaker 2: There you go, I just sort of still on the go,
- 59:18Speaker 2: are they Oh yeah, I know you can get Champicks
- 59:21Speaker 2: ace even if you want.
- 59:22Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Yeah, there was, I mean, there's there was
- 59:26Speaker 1: anybody that's you see, I suppose we're vaping took off then,
- 59:29Speaker 1: because I suppose there was. The argument was that they
- 59:32Speaker 1: were it was a healthier alternative, more socially acceptable alternative.
- 59:37Speaker 1: Two cigarettes like whether it is or it isn't.
- 59:40Speaker 2: Well, I gotta tell you Tom before before the vapor
- 59:42Speaker 2: and I seem to remember, it was like a little no,
- 59:46Speaker 2: I didn't I know of people that had them, rather
- 59:48Speaker 2: than oh yeah it was a little fake cigarette.
- 59:51Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was like a little plastic to
- 59:54Speaker 1: be honest, it looked like a period applicators. What it
- 59:59Speaker 1: looked like.
- 59:59Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little fucking tampon thing.
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: And the gimmick with it was that you you you
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: drew on it. You take at least yeah, yeah, and
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: you were sucking. I guess inside was just like a
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: little wall paper.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: I think that some such yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: pretty sure somebody opened one one that show show me one.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: But like you could see the guy was just fucking
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: dying inside. It was like, this is terrible.
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: I didn't recall as well now and again I'm looking
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: in rather than looking at on all this. But one
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: of the earliest cigarettes I ever seen looked like a
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: cigarette with a little red tip that would.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: Be yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it wasn't.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: It wasn't what we would call a vape. These days.
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: It was just I think it had like a little
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: water nicotine in it.
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: Yeah, there were, that's exactly, and it was there was
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: no there was a glow off, but I think it
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: was just pure.
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: It was just it's just more.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you would. There must have been a little
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: fur behind it, sorry, because it would glow as per
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: how much sucking you were doing through it, like it
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: would actually glow brighter than So there must have been
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: some sort of little, like I said, some little turbine
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: just to get it go. It wasn't necessary, but there
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: were ones, and they were very chalky. I remember trying
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: one of those for a couple of weeks and they
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: were very fucking chalky. It was just a cloud of
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: fucking dust that would go into your lungs like but again,
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: not good healthy smoke. I think the big problem that
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: at the time it's because we'd passed, because I can
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: never understand, like, wow, why what is the addiction to
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: these fucking things? And it really was the ability to
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: be allowed to smoke them anywhere. And there's social connection
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: that you would have with lads you worked with because
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: you'd come to a stopping point or a discussion point
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: and a city would come out then like it was
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: almost like, I mean, they've done away with the advertising
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: and formula one and stuff and a little quick one.
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: Did you know?
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: Do you know when Benson and Hedges were sponsoring Jordan, right,
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: Eddie Jordan's cards, So Eddie Jordan had done a deal
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: at the time, so they're like they were gold, black, golden,
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: and red. And he went because it was mentioned heads colors,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: but that color actually becomes like jockey's becomes your assigned color.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: Then ye recard and he had done a deal with DHL.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: He was doing a deal with DHL at the same time,
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: and DHL went, yeah, but you can't really be associated
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: with fangs because no, the fangs are on the way out.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: They're gone. So let's us do a deal to go
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: man because DHL at the time we're white and red.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: And that dad will tell you we did. We did
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: any Jordan a couple of a couple of months back.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: That will tell you how strong of a salesman he was.
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: He went, you want to be class if he changed
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: your color branding to yellow and red, way way better,
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: way better look mc donald's Cogan universe. You know what
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: I mean? Heaven knows what he said at that meeting.
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: But to get DHL to go, yeah, that's a great
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: idea for your Jordan cards, which are now wrapped up.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: He got him to change their entire livery their and
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: DHL is yellow and red to this based based originally
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: on the cigarettes, beds and and hedges, which originally gave
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: the color like Eddy for you like Eddie. So that
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: was that was when they went out. But then it
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: was I couldn't really grasp this level of negativity towards
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: it or how it was so addictive because I wouldn't
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: actually smoke an awful lot by myself, indeed, because for
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: a long time I lived by myself when I was
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: working construction, and I wouldn't smoke. And you smoke one
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: in theeed and maybe after the dinner or whatever, maybe two.
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: What are you hoof throw them during the day? It
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, because it's a punctuation it's a
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: social social punctuation point. You know, we weren't all rushing
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: out for a fag because we were all the time
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: outside for a fag. So that's what made it super hard.
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: So when did you start vaping?
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: Tom?
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: Probably even we want to get back that we want
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: to circle back to these squirrels.
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: I'd say eight or nine years ago, I'd.
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: Say, you're vaping the length of the tom and Jerry shoging.
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Immediate effects as soon as because
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: you start hacking up long lung butter once you stop
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: cigarettes for an was the same when I came off
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: from that time. You're just HARKing up long butter like
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: it's just sitting there on your lungs with the less
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: and lesson using this thing. I would hope, I would.
- 1:04:10Speaker 1: It's losing a lot of interest at the minute. I've
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: just I've filled my life with so many other things
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: that indeed, you know that it's almost wheedled its way
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: out of my system. Is a hindrance, is a long one.
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: This is why I say to people like I could
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: never have electric car, Gotta charge my laptop, fag phone,
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: the whole lot by fucking some of my power tools
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: in charging, and now you expect me to charge the
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: anxiety I have over all these things.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: So and they're not going anywhere. Our vapes now, the
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: early ones I remember, you know, they looked like what
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: the fucking your lads played in Star Wars, And now
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: they're like they're sitting in the palm of your hands,
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: and you get them a minty flavor or whatever anything
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: you fucking want. They're so good. Even the squirrels are
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: vaping these days.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: When there's price now as regular cigarette, So he mays
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: do one or the other. Look, if you're smoking me,
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: you got him. There's a world war comeing. Let's get
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: into it.
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: Smoke them. If you got him is not a great
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: is not a great? Finish to the segment ary, Go
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: Tom's History two cigarettes again. It's the Tom and Jerry stance.
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: Don't eat nes slayer products, don't smoke.
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: Or smoke products.
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: Whatever you want is having a bit of cracking and
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: a pack of kick cats come out. Tell you what
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: you can do. Tell you what you can do. Never
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- 1:06:23Speaker 2: Indeed, sorry, I'm putting through it here. I'm looking for
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- 1:06:30Speaker 2: youth and Chuck was up there with the greats. Yeah,
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: he was twelve when Walker came out, so yeah, he
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: was banging. He was banging on he was just right
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: where Walker. Yeah, Walker Texas Ranger. We were we were
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: old dad Walker's for babies.
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: The only thing keeping me interesting was the beard. Hey, Jar,
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: I'm going to have to make a move. Do you
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: know why I'm out hearing probably one of the scariest sounds.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: And man, we'll hear before a long weekend approaches. My
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: wife is going around the house. What sounds like a
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: measuring tape.
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: Oh no, would you christ time? Okay, I'm gonna let
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: you go on that, folks. There was a whole bunch
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: of good stuff. Thanks for all the Chuck Norris jokes
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: over on Instagram.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: Oh brilliant, brilliant. And as Jerry said, if you do
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: follow us on on Instagram, please go have a look.
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: Jerry made a little demonstration there yesterday and I counter
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: argument made it a counterargument to it, and it should be.
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: It should be up at the stage the sock to
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: me challenge. Can you turn your sockets side upside down,
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: close it and turn it background with all your sockets
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: in it? I can, Tom cannot. Good luck, Good luck,