Latest / Financial Survival Network / AI Taking Over Jobs in The Financial Industry -Stock Market Trends & Bubbles - Chris Markowski #6019
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- 0:00Every single person out there, they would come up with these algorithms and whatnot.
- 0:03Now we have them, you know, running all of Wall Street.
- 0:06And it couldn't determine that that lift report was wrong a couple of weeks ago
- 0:11and set the shares of the stock up sixty percent on a TYPEO. You
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- 0:47Hey, I've got Chris Markowski on with us. You find him at Watchdog
- 0:52on Wallstreet dot com. Chris been doing your show for better than twenty years.
- 0:59And hey, no one knows the games that Wall Street plays better than
- 1:03you. Chris. What my question for you right now? We talked about
- 1:07this a little bit pre call. You know, Wall Street likes the flavor
- 1:11of the month. You know, Wall Street is like Baskin Robbins, you
- 1:15know, fifty seven flavors, whatever, but AI right now is the flavor
- 1:19of the month. Maybe it's the flavor of the year, maybe it's the
- 1:23flavor of the decade. Chris, we haven't seen stocks like this really since
- 1:29the dot com bubble. But here we actually have companies that have a distinct
- 1:33difference. They actually make money. Is it a bubble or is it a
- 1:38super growth market? Is Tesla a bubble stock? Or is Tesla a growth
- 1:42stock? Now obviously there's a bit of both here, isn't there? Yeah,
- 1:48if are you're talking about bubbles? And then I was actually looking into
- 1:51this, it was like a week or two ago with you know bubbles,
- 1:53going back, you know, to the tulip bubble, and it's like,
- 1:56well, you got you got different type. You got bubblegum bubbles, and
- 1:59you've got you know, bubbles that you had when were blowing your kids.
- 2:01They're they're they're all different. And you know, this one, without a
- 2:06doubt is when a lot of people are making comparisons to the dot com uh
- 2:10bubble. But the issue the dot com bubble was just that it was so
- 2:14much cheap money at the time that was in essence flowing into companies that if
- 2:20you took a look at the prospectus. You could almost set at date when
- 2:23they're you know, they were going to run out of money. It was
- 2:25a burn rate, it was it was funny you could calculate when these companies
- 2:29we're going to go out of business based upon their model. We're talking about
- 2:31companies now that you can say that the you know, take a look at
- 2:35the valuation and what they're valued at a certain period of time, can say
- 2:37they're more expensive, uh, based upon history. But they're not. They're
- 2:43not raising more money. They're they're actually buying back stock, meaning from the
- 2:47art in many respects. You know, why would they be doing that if
- 2:53you know, if it was a bubble uh type of situation and not to
- 2:55mention the order flow is just it's incredible. I mean, you got to
- 2:59take a look at, you know, what type of business these companies are
- 3:01going to be doing moving forward. And you know when people they talk about
- 3:05AI and everybody automatically thinks of being Nvidia and Google and various different things.
- 3:09I you know, like people to kind of run their outlook and try to
- 3:14look at the companies that are going to benefit from this technology that are saying
- 3:17to them myselfs okay, how am I going to be more productive? Or
- 3:22you know, my state is raising minimum weights to some ridiculous number where I
- 3:27can't stay in business, or it's going to make it difficult for me to
- 3:30be profitable. How can I use this to be more productive? And that's
- 3:34what it is, you know, AI. You got to look at it
- 3:36as a tool, you know, much like again when the Internet first came
- 3:39out, and you know, the brilliant Paul Krugman thought it wouldn't much be
- 3:44anything about it. He said that at that point in time, but it
- 3:46ended up being an incredible tool that we all use and it's embedded into our
- 3:52lives. And you know, as Warren Buffett actually talked about this, you
- 3:55know, there's some things you know that he had, you know, throughout
- 3:59his life. Remember when it television first came out. You know, he
- 4:01didn't have one in his house and he never understood why anybody would ever want
- 4:04one, or we would never imagine having one. The same thing with the
- 4:08personal computer. That that changes. You know, things are invented that you
- 4:13don't think you may need or want to have, or whatever it may be,
- 4:16and then you find out all of a sudden, Hey, you know
- 4:18what I got to get that. It's so true what you're saying there and
- 4:23AI, it's going to be more profound than probably anything else, especially if
- 4:27they start. The largest job category in the United States is driver. Over
- 4:32ten million people are driving, and if they could really come up with the
- 4:38fully autonomous vehicle which look Tesla's hitting some roadblocks. Now their stock has gotten
- 4:44slammed as a result, but overall their AI for driving is pretty darn good.
- 4:51You know, no one would believe ten years ago that a car could
- 4:56do what their car is doing. But ten million people who are like no
- 5:01longer having a job. That's a little worrisome, isn't it. Uh yeah,
- 5:05well again, and this has happened throughout history as well as you know,
- 5:09new technologies you know come in and you know, certain ones go by
- 5:14the wayside. It's not doesn't happen overnight, you know. I think a
- 5:17great example of this is, you know, I remember Obama money. It
- 5:20was he was being naive and he was talking about ATM machines and bank to
- 5:27I don't have that many bank tellers anymore. Actually, you know, banks
- 5:30hired more people after they got rid of the tellers. They went and did
- 5:34other types of things within you know, that business and more jobs than to
- 5:40be created, even though certain ones were eliminated. It goes you know,
- 5:43the old Joseph Schumpeter creative destruction also happens with with the labor force as well.
- 5:48Yeah, it's true, but this kind of goes further than anything else
- 5:54we've ever encountered though, right. I remember in college the professor said,
- 6:00you know, the first Industrial Revolution, you know, basically helped the man's
- 6:09hands, you know, did it did away with the need for his body
- 6:12and a lot of professions. Yeah, right, And they were saying the
- 6:15Second Industrial Revolution going to do away with his buy That never really happened.
- 6:21But now it's really looking like this thing. Obviously it's here to stay,
- 6:28there's no question about that. But it goes further than anything else that we've
- 6:33ever ever encountered, right I think. So, I mean you talked about
- 6:40with the cars, the autonomous driving. I don't know, maybe I'm you
- 6:45know, I'm a scaredy cat. I I can't see myself ever getting,
- 6:47you know, into a car that I didn't have some sort of control over.
- 6:50And I you know, I've talked about this people. I say,
- 6:53the only way I see that eventually working is that every car has to be
- 6:57autonomous, so they're all communicating with one another. So yeah, I teach
- 7:00my kids to drive, and I say, you see that person over there.
- 7:02I know that that person can't see me behind that corner. How does
- 7:06you know? How does the AI ever pick up on that or that car?
- 7:11You know, there's I guess it could eventually. I just think that
- 7:13that's going to be a long, a long way to come. And I
- 7:15think people like, you know, like having some sort of sense of control
- 7:18with with with things like that. But you know, and in certain you
- 7:24know, type tasks that one might describe, you know, even though that
- 7:28there's a thought process involved, might be more menial based. I mean,
- 7:31I think back to when I, you know, started in this business,
- 7:35you know, thirty years ago, and you know what was involved in running
- 7:41you know, my business, and the sales assistants and the tickets and this
- 7:45and then that and all that stuff went away, and you know, life
- 7:48moves on, and you know, I press a couple, but everything's in
- 7:53front of me now. I don't have a book of business that was written
- 7:56in interview with ink on holding pictures or anything like that anymore. And you
- 8:01know, I don't need as many people to handle all that. Again,
- 8:05things are going to change, and I do think again other jobs will be
- 8:09creating interesting thing. My friend got to start on Wall Street before they had
- 8:16calculators and is his job was using an adding machine to calculate a crude interest
- 8:24on bond sales and purchases. And he was a mathematical genius, so he
- 8:28could do it literally in his head. But most of the process was proofing
- 8:35what your prior work, to make sure you didn't screw up because one yeah,
- 8:37well point could really mess things up. And now basically those streets around
- 8:43Wall Street, you know, broadened Wall we're all back office operations. There
- 8:48is no back office album right exists. It's empty still to this, I
- 8:54mean, going back to the nineteen nine, it has started clearing out a
- 8:58lot, most of those buildings down and they are empty. But yeah,
- 9:01to think about other sense too. So you had a mathematical genius that was
- 9:05waging his talent, you know, calculating interest. He could have been doing
- 9:09something much much better with his time, quite frightly than doing that. Hey,
- 9:13it's so now though, Look, AI definitely can underwrite mortgages better than
- 9:20any human being right, and it can use more data. Right now,
- 9:24you disclose all your info and then they run a credit report and they do
- 9:28a public record search. It can go way more in depth than that,
- 9:33come up with new models likelihood of default, and really really up the quality
- 9:41of the loans being written. Yeah, what about analysts in your business?
- 9:46Right? Do you see the day when the AI just takes over for them?
- 9:50I don't mean it depends on the type of analytical work, you know.
- 9:54I remember he said, it's like doing going back to the old days
- 9:58when I met the lead retail anaists from Goldman and Sachs back in the nineteen
- 10:01nineties, and this idiot ever stepped from the Walmart and and you know what
- 10:05I mean, good is this person? You know, what does he knows
- 10:07and understand? You know some of things. I do think that you have
- 10:13as much technology as you want trying to make heads or tails and how the
- 10:18economy is going to work and the trillions of transactions that take place every day.
- 10:22It's like trying to understand, you know, where leaves are going to
- 10:26fall off the trees in the fall. You know, it's very very difficult.
- 10:30And it's like I said, it's garbage in, garbage out as well
- 10:33with this, And you know, I'm kind of old school when it comes
- 10:37to my you know, investment of philosophy and in regards of having to go
- 10:41about looking at companies. Will this thing be able to determine what people's tastes
- 10:46are going to be or what's going to happen? And as just that don't
- 10:48know, I don't know. Sometimes just sometimes you can get information paralysis too,
- 10:54where you get you know, too much that overloads and how do you
- 10:56adjust for that? And you know, that's a little bit intuition and experience
- 11:03as well and learning from mistakes. And again I don't know where that's that's
- 11:07going to go. I really don't. But again I don't I every single
- 11:13person out there, they would come up with these algorithms and whatnot. Now
- 11:16we have them, you know, running all of Wall Street. And it
- 11:20couldn't determine that that lift report was wrong a couple of weeks ago and set
- 11:24the shares of the stock up sixty percent on a typo you know, which
- 11:28I find fascinating. I said, you couldn't figure that one out? I
- 11:31mean I learned, I said, come on, and it was just obviously
- 11:33wrong. But the you know, the brilliant salgary that they couldn't figure it
- 11:37out. Hey, well, maybe the best place we could invest in AI
- 11:43is with our replacing our politicians with it. It is. Look, AI
- 11:48isn't going to take a bribe. I don't think I wouldn't know what to
- 11:52do with one if it got it. It can't be dumber than the people
- 11:56who are running things now, right, and presumably it can't be pressured.
- 12:03I guess. I guess it could be like Google with their new AI thing,
- 12:09where it's just as biased against everything. Yeah, and maybe maybe you
- 12:13want some of those ais who are biased against everything there so you get a
- 12:18mix of opinions, right. I mean, hey, I live in Florida.
- 12:22As far as driving goes Man that that car is going to do a
- 12:26better job than ninety percent of the people here on the road. Chris,
- 12:31Oh yeah, I mean, like I said, I'm moving back to Florida
- 12:35and in this fall, so I'm looking forward to that as well. And
- 12:37I'm familiar. You got even again, you know, is you know,
- 12:41will the AI be able to determine? You know, I was taught back
- 12:46and drivers said when I was in high school, seventh grade that if you
- 12:50see somebody that has launched over the wheel like that and wearing a hat,
- 12:54you want to you know, pass them, give them room. They My
- 13:01friend the pilot for forty five years for a major airline, and you know,
- 13:07we're driving in my tesla and he goes, I would never trust that
- 13:11thing, you know, to drive. And he said, yeah, well,
- 13:15but you're up in the sky there and you're using the autopilot. He
- 13:18said, yeah, but we have rules up there. We don't have any
- 13:20rules down on the earth here at ground level. It's so true, you
- 13:26know, so, but potential to profit here is vast. You know.
- 13:31I was just I was just in Thailand and I stopped off in the airport
- 13:37in Singapore and it was like five in the morning, when usually you have
- 13:41a cleaning crew out there. They had a robot cleaning the floors. And
- 13:46I got to Thailand in Bangkok and they had a robot cleaning the floors.
- 13:52So that's just one example of a job that probably you know, I mean,
- 13:56we've had the vacuum robots, the I robot and all that for years,
- 14:01but now actually commercial application and that place, Chris was spotless, you
- 14:05know, Singapore. Yeah, well, I's looked again, and you know
- 14:09they're gonna they're gonna beat the hell out if you can drop a piece of
- 14:13gum autographics. Yeah, don't. You're not deal with JFK, which is
- 14:18oh my god, it's like a national embarrassment when you're flying it. Crack
- 14:20that cut. Oh man, Well, well, wax slowly, but surely
- 14:26they're improving. The Delta's new terminal open LaGuardia got replaced in other is better,
- 14:31but ja's got a long way to go. Yeah, well the terminal
- 14:35four is good, Terminal four is okay, and terminal five is okay.
- 14:41So but yeah, I know what you're saying. That's and it's such a
- 14:45zoo but hey, maybe people won't need to travel as much because you'll just
- 14:48get into the metaverse and it'll be like being there right now. It will
- 14:52never be like me, o there, No, I'm I was booking my
- 14:56grease strip everywhere. I'm there every August, so I'm there. So.
- 15:01So to investors getting more a more serious note, what do you think the
- 15:05biggest challenge moving forward for investors? Is it inflation? Is it geopolitical instability?
- 15:15Is it our own political instability? In the United States? Is it.
- 15:20It's a kind of degradation of the morals and values. What do you
- 15:26think the biggest challenge to investors really is out there, Chris, Investors are
- 15:30always the biggest challenge that is used to themselves. And you know, making
- 15:35you know, getting you know, nuts with fomo with certain things at certain
- 15:37points in time, and not being disciplined with strategy. You know, things
- 15:43are going to are going to come and they're going to go. I think
- 15:46inflation is a problem for everyone, and I quite frankly, I don't think
- 15:50it's it's really going anywhere. And you know, you take a look moving
- 15:56forward. You know, you look at our national debt, you know,
- 15:58close to thirty four trillion dollars at this point in time, where we were
- 16:02adding about a trillion dollars every one hundred days. That's that's a real issue
- 16:07forward. I mean, Talent even talked about that. He called it's even
- 16:10a black swan. It's a whank swan. It's as plain as day.
- 16:12And we're doing this to our kids and our grandkids. And you know,
- 16:18we've got the two leading presidential candidates right now that don't want to address the
- 16:22issue. They don't want to talk about the issues. They don't want to
- 16:25talk about entitlements or any of these things. Are pretending like the problem is
- 16:29not there. You know, if you're not aware of this. I mean
- 16:32I wrote about, you know, the Social Security and the Ponzi scheme that
- 16:36it is back in then it nineties, and this is all coming home to
- 16:40roost. It wasn't dealt with. I mean, the last time we tried
- 16:42to deal with it was under George W. Bush. It was actually the
- 16:47good policy decision in his administration. It got shot down because he spent all
- 16:51his political capital in Iraq. And McConnell says, I can't get this through
- 16:55because we're wasting you know, the essence, we're wasting money over there and
- 16:57we're busy fighting this stupid war. So you know, again, these are
- 17:02real problems moving forward and nobody wants to really deal with them at this point
- 17:07in time. Well, maybe the AI will figure it out, Chris,
- 17:11figuring that one out. You put the AI in charge of all governments spending.
- 17:17Okay, just put it in charge, because can't do any worse than
- 17:21the guys who are doing it now. Yeah, I need Brandon Paul or
- 17:25somebody, you know, somebody that actually makes some sort of sense and understanding
- 17:27of you know, the problems and how they exist. El budget. So
- 17:32social Security is going to go bust. Maybe we need to be investing in
- 17:36the dog food manufacturers right because they're not going to be Seniors won't be able,
- 17:41we won't be able to afford food. We'll have to go for dog
- 17:45food right today's day and age the dog food. I mean, it's like
- 17:48gourmet. People like their dogs, like their dogs more than they do people.
- 17:53Is that from you know, Gordon Gecko from Wall Street, But he
- 17:56said the thing about wasps love animals hate people a limiting. Yeah, that's
- 18:02great. Well, Hey, appreciate you coming on, and it's always fun
- 18:07talking with you. I know you always do have your your hand on the
- 18:11pulse or your finger on the pulse. You find Chris at Watchdog on Wallsbreed
- 18:17dot com, and don't forget his radio show and podcast. We have a
- 18:22link to it in the show. That's this interview on Financial Survival Network dot
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- 18:30a pleasure and we will talk to you again soon. Thanks a lot.
- 18:33I appreciate you have a good one. Thanks for listening to Carrie Letz's Financial
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