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Fair Territory: No Home Field Advantage? Dodgers & Mariners Roll · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the postseason edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Olana Rizzo. We're bouncing around with
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Speaker 1: the days a little bit because of my schedule travel around,
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Speaker 1: but I appreciate everyone's flexibility with our show. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: your flexibility in bearing with us. Alana. How are you.
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Speaker 1: We're having an interesting start to the ALCS.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken, great to be with you.
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Speaker 3: Is always the hardest working man in the game, bebopping
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Speaker 3: all over the country. I tell you what so much though,
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Speaker 3: Ken for home cooking. Both of the road teams on
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Speaker 3: each side have won going home with a two nothing advantage.
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Speaker 1: It's really surprising, Alana, and especially surprising on the American
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Speaker 1: League side, after the way the Blue Jays looked in
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Speaker 1: the Division series against the Yankees. But we have a
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Speaker 1: potential problem ahead here, and I want to start with
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Speaker 1: this before we dive into the two series. We have
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Speaker 1: a situation where both of these series could end in
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Speaker 1: five games or less. Certainly that's a possibility. The home
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Speaker 1: team has to do in each case is win two
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Speaker 1: of three, and if that happens, we're looking at a
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Speaker 1: long layoff before the World Series for both teams and Now,
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Speaker 1: if you remember last year, MLB had determined that it
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Speaker 1: was going to perhaps not perhaps it was going to
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Speaker 1: start the World Series earlier, move it up if the
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Speaker 1: two lcs's ended in five games or less, if there
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Speaker 1: was going to be that kind of gap. This year,
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Speaker 1: they've abandoned that plan. In August, the league announced that
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Speaker 1: wasn't going to do that. The World Series would start
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Speaker 1: on October twenty fourth, regardless. So that's the way it's
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Speaker 1: going to go. So if the Mariners, for example, sweep
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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, if this series ends Thursday night, which
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Speaker 1: would be the case if it went four games, they're
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Speaker 1: looking at a one week layoff, And if the Dodgers
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Speaker 1: sweep the Brewers, it's a believe a five or six
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Speaker 1: day layoffs. So I don't know that that's ideal. You
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Speaker 1: want to carry the momentum from these two series into
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Speaker 1: the World Series. But at the same time, the other
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Speaker 1: end of it, as we've seen, is that it gets
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Speaker 1: teams rest, It allows the pitching in particular to refuel
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Speaker 1: and recharge. So I don't know how it's going to
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Speaker 1: turn out. And maybe both these series end up going
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Speaker 1: long and we don't have that problem. But it's certainly
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Speaker 1: a possibility. The way these two things have started.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're almost hoping as a fan that, you know what,
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Speaker 3: at least the team that hasn't won a game yet
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Speaker 3: can at least wins one, make it at least a
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Speaker 3: five game series to make it interesting and not have
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Speaker 3: such a huge layoff. Let's talk about the Dodgers and
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Speaker 3: the Brewers. First, Brewers down two in the series, both
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Speaker 3: those games, of course at American Family Field. They head
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Speaker 3: back to Los Angeles now, But what about the starting
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Speaker 3: pitching ken For LA, the biggest issue was the Dodgers'
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Speaker 3: bullpen is so bad. We really haven't had to see
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Speaker 3: them in the last two games because of Snell and
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Speaker 3: y'a Momoto.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, a lot. If the bullpen doesn't pitch,
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Speaker 1: it can't be an issue. And actually it was a
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Speaker 1: bit of an issue in Game one because of when
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Speaker 1: Snell left the game what happened. But my goodness, these
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Speaker 1: two guys have been absolutely brilliant. Go to Jason Stark
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Speaker 1: story in Today's Athletic to see just how brilliant it
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Speaker 1: was in the context of history. Eight innings from Snell,
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Speaker 1: nine from Yamamoto, and they've basically suffocated the Brewers. It's
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Speaker 1: as simple as that. It's no discredit to the Brewers.
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Speaker 1: They ran up against two incredible pitchers and two guys
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Speaker 1: at the top of their game. And the Brewers issue
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Speaker 1: from the start of this series was the fact that
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Speaker 1: their pitching is not as whole as it was. Say
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Speaker 1: in July, there's no woodrift, there are other issues that
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Speaker 1: have come up, and it's just a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a shame that they're kind of operating at a disadvantage.
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Speaker 1: Don't really have a starter for Game three. But all
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Speaker 1: credit to the Dodgers here, and I know I've questioned them,
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Speaker 1: You've questioned the Milana I believe as well for kind
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Speaker 1: of coasting through the season. Well, they seem to have
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Speaker 1: the right idea. They seem to be doing this right.
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Speaker 1: There's two games away from going back to the World
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Speaker 1: Series with a chance to be the first back to
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Speaker 1: back champions since the nineteen ninety eight to two thousand Yankees.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been pretty crazy to watch, and I tell
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Speaker 3: you what, to see Blake Snell go as long as
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Speaker 3: he did, and to see Yamamoto have a complete game,
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Speaker 3: those are back in yesteryear in terms of the way
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Speaker 3: that the game used to be played. You don't see
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Speaker 3: that very often anymore. What do you make ken of
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Speaker 3: the series that you've been covering with the Toronto Blue
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Speaker 3: Jays and the Seattle Mariners. I'm really surprised that Seattle
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Speaker 3: has been as good as they have been only because
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Speaker 3: of the flight in the fifteen inning games and the DS.
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Speaker 3: What do you make of it? You're seeing it from
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Speaker 3: a different vantage point.
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Speaker 1: All of this is surprising the Mariners and the Blue Jays.
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Speaker 1: And I was just concocting some numbers this morning about
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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays offensive performance in this series. It has
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Speaker 1: not been good. They have in the first two games
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Speaker 1: one hit, one after the second inning, one hit after
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Speaker 1: the second inning. Hard to win that way. And this
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Speaker 1: is a team that, of course, in the Division series
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Speaker 1: against the Yankees, put up thirty four runs in four games.
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Speaker 1: That's an average of eight point five runs per game.
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Speaker 1: And suddenly they're averaging two runs per game against the
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Speaker 1: ma who have just pitched brilliantly, even after an aborted
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Speaker 1: start from the Logan Gilbert in Game two when he
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Speaker 1: wasn't good, wasn't good at all. I pitched three innings,
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Speaker 1: So I am surprised obviously by the performances of both teams. Here,
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Speaker 1: the Mariners seem to have carried their momentum from the DS,
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Speaker 1: regardless of playing fifteen innings in Game five, into this series,
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Speaker 1: and certainly tonight, playing at home where their fans have
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Speaker 1: been waiting the entire franchise history for the team to
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Speaker 1: make the World Series, the atmosphere will be supercharged, But
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere was supercharged at Rogers Center until the games
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Speaker 1: kind of got away from the Blue Jays and then
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Speaker 1: it got quiet. So I don't rule anything out actually
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Speaker 1: in either series. The way this season is Gonalana, and
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Speaker 1: you know this. We've seen teams get hot, we've seen
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Speaker 1: them get cold, and we've seen it happen quickly, happen
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Speaker 1: quickly to the Blue Jays. Here the Mariners are playing
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Speaker 1: at a high level. They're really good. They have the
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Speaker 1: pitching advantage the next two nights in terms of the starters.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, would I be shocked if
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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays won tonight and then with Max Schurz
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Speaker 1: are going tomorrow, this series would get a little bit
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Speaker 1: more dramatic. I would not be shocked. So the whole
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Speaker 1: key to me as bad as the Blue Jays bullpen
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Speaker 1: has been is the offense. They have to score, they
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Speaker 1: have to get the lead, and they have to just
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Speaker 1: create a margin for error for their pitching staff, which
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Speaker 1: they've been unable to do in these first two games.
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Speaker 3: Ken. What would be dramatic, though, is if the teams
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Speaker 3: that are down two right now somehow came back and
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Speaker 3: won this dang thing and made their way to the
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Speaker 3: World Series. What we're seeing right now, Ken, is unprecedented.
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Speaker 2: You can see. They're a tweet by David Vasse.
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Speaker 3: Only five teams have come back in the Best of
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Speaker 3: seven LCS history after being down.
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Speaker 2: Oh to two. Could it happen this year? I'm not
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Speaker 2: so sure.
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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure either, because these teams have started
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Speaker 1: two on the road, and in this era of seven
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Speaker 1: game lcs's since nineteen eighty five, that has never happened
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Speaker 1: where a team down two on the road has won
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Speaker 1: in nineteen You see this tweet right here. Yes, it
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Speaker 1: happened in nineteen seventy, but that was a three game LCS,
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Speaker 1: so it was a little bit different. This is going
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Speaker 1: to be a difficult task for both these clubs, no question,
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Speaker 1: and certainly with the Brewers now facing glass now on Otani.
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Speaker 1: It's really difficult the Blue Jays too, because it's Bieber
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Speaker 1: and Schurser versus George Kirby and Luis Castillo. They don't
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Speaker 1: have the edge in either of those matchups. So obviously
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Speaker 1: it's an extreme challenge that these teams are facing. It
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Speaker 1: would be shocking if it turned around. But at the
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Speaker 1: same time, John Smoltz talks about this all the time
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Speaker 1: on the broadcast, and he played in so many postseasons.
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Speaker 1: All it takes is one game to shift the narrative,
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Speaker 1: and if the Blue Jays win tonight, the narrative does shift.
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Speaker 1: Now a lot would be on shres of tomorrow and
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Speaker 1: Sure has not pitched, I believe since September twentieth. It's
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Speaker 1: a tall task, but he's Max Scherzer. We'd have some
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Speaker 1: drama at the very least.
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Speaker 3: All right, some questions need to be answer and you
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Speaker 3: can ask Ken Rosenthal next and coming up as fair
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back after this quick break.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: Time now to ask Ken Rosenthal a question? What is
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Speaker 3: on your mind?
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Speaker 2: You guys?
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Speaker 3: Now is the perfect opportunity to ask Ken. The first
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Speaker 3: question is coming from Luke Artema seven zero five six.
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Speaker 3: Why are so many managers fired and not general managers?
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Speaker 3: It seems like he was in on our production call.
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Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal, Luke.
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Speaker 1: I am going to say that we need to wait
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Speaker 1: a little bit and I'll get into this more undoed
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Speaker 1: in dork. But you ask the right question, and it's
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Speaker 1: certainly statistically something that people should be thinking about. Right now.
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Speaker 1: We have eight managerial openings. We have one general manager opening,
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Speaker 1: the one in Colorado. That seems to suggest it imbalance,
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Speaker 1: does it not. It seems to suggest that the accountability
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Speaker 1: is not quite the same. And here are the managerial openings.
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Speaker 1: You can see them right there, the Padres joining the list, Angels, Braves, Giants, Padres,
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Speaker 1: twins as the current openings interim managers yet to be decided,
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Speaker 1: but these jobs must be considered open as well, Nationals,
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Speaker 1: Orioles and Rockies. The Rangers have filled theirs with Skip Schumacher,
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Speaker 1: so certainly in each case with the managers, and Mike
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Speaker 1: Schultz a little bit of an exception because he retired.
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Speaker 1: But when a manager jerial change takes place, there are
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Speaker 1: certain justifications. You can see why it happens. But at
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Speaker 1: the same time you can make the same questions and
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Speaker 1: have the same questions about general managers, and they never
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Speaker 1: seem to be held as accountable. But we'll be back
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Speaker 1: with more when we get back to through door of
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Speaker 1: the week.
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Speaker 3: All right, Our next question is kind of related to
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Speaker 3: managerial openings. But this is from Brionna. Which Hi, Brianna,
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Speaker 3: that's my sister's name. That is not my sister, but
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Speaker 3: that is my sister's name. She wants to know ken
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Speaker 3: is the padre's job a good one? And I'm inferring
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Speaker 3: that she's asking because it seems like there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of turnover in that position.
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Speaker 2: In San Diego.
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Speaker 1: There has been a ton of turnover under Aj Preller,
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Speaker 1: who took over in the fall of twenty fourteen. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if I have my math right, but I
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Speaker 1: believe the next manager will be their seventh under Preller
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Speaker 1: in like eleven years. That's an incredibly high rate of turnover. Now,
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Speaker 1: is the job a good one? Well, that's a multi
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Speaker 1: layered question. The team is good, right? The team is
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Speaker 1: certainly good. Manny Machado maybe not what he was offensively
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Speaker 1: in his prime, but it's still a really effective and
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Speaker 1: good player, Tatist crona Worth, all the guys that they have, Bogarts,
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Speaker 1: this is a good offensive team. It's a team with
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Speaker 1: a great bullpen. It's also a team that has serious
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Speaker 1: rotation questions because of the potential free agencies of Dylan
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Speaker 1: Cees and Michael King, and the payroll questions that they
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Speaker 1: are having now with Peter Seidler no longer with us,
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Speaker 1: their owner, who was so willing to spend and spend
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Speaker 1: whatever it took it seemed to bring a championship to
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Speaker 1: San Diego. I would say the job is a good one.
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Speaker 1: It's certainly better than some of the ones we just
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Speaker 1: listed because the team is closer to winning. But at
12:06
Speaker 1: the same time, there has been a high rate of
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Speaker 1: turnover among their managers, and if you're looking at the job,
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Speaker 1: you have to keep that in mind. You have to
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Speaker 1: wonder what's going on here? Why is it that managers
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Speaker 1: seem to not last very long in San Diego. Now, again,
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Speaker 1: Schill is a little bit of a different story because
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Speaker 1: of what he said that the job took a mental,
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Speaker 1: physical and emotional toll on him. There's stuff coming out
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Speaker 1: now that suggests that there was more going on. John
12:34
Speaker 1: Hayman had a note today about friction with the coaches.
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Speaker 1: Kevin ac in the San Diego Union Tribune wrote a
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Speaker 1: story about friction with the coaches. There were other things
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Speaker 1: going on here. But at the same time, that's the question, right,
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Speaker 1: is this job desirable? I would say the answer is yes,
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Speaker 1: but you have to have your eyes wide open.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about that. It seems like there's, like
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Speaker 3: I said, a carousel in terms of managers. Thank you
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Speaker 3: Brianna for the question. The next question is from live
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Speaker 3: z k one. I hate this, I hate that this
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Speaker 3: is even a question. But could we see Tarek Scougle traded.
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Speaker 1: The answer is yes, Liz and or Live And the
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Speaker 1: reason is he is one year away from free agency.
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Speaker 1: He is a guy that obviously is at the top
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Speaker 1: of his game. He's going to win his second straight
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Speaker 1: Cy Young Award, and the Tigers, while they might want
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Speaker 1: to keep him, and while they might have the resources
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Speaker 1: to keep him, I would not expect that they're going
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Speaker 1: to be able to sign him to an extension before
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Speaker 1: he hits the open market. Tarek Scouble is represented by
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Speaker 1: Scott Boris. Scott Boris's clients generally not always generally prefer
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Speaker 1: to establish their values on the open market through free agency,
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Speaker 1: and certainly, if you're Tarek Scougle yeah, you want to
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Speaker 1: do that. So could the Tigers blow him away? I
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Speaker 1: guess that's possible, but I don't expect that to happen.
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Speaker 1: So if you're looking at the potential loss of a
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Speaker 1: picture of this caliber, yes you have to entertain the
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Speaker 1: idea of trading him and getting more than a draft
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Speaker 1: pick in return. Because if you put Trek Scooble out
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Speaker 1: on the open market, not the open market for free agency,
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Speaker 1: but I'm talking about the trademark, You're gonna get some
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Speaker 1: interesting offers. There's no question. I can think of one
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Speaker 1: team in particular that could badly use Tarrek Schouble and
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Speaker 1: it's the New York Mets. And that's just one team.
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Speaker 1: Every team would want him. He is that good. So
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Speaker 1: if you're the Tigers, yes, you have to entertain this
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Speaker 1: rather than face the risk of losing him for only
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Speaker 1: draft pick compensation. It's simply good business.
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Speaker 3: And you know what, it's the same type of question
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Speaker 3: I would imagine for Paul Skeans on the national league side.
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Speaker 3: A question here from Daniel Alvarez. Will Paul Skeans get
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Speaker 3: traded this offseason? Almost the same situation?
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Speaker 1: Right? Not at all, really, because a lot of just
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Speaker 1: a difference in control. Now. I know while you're thinking
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Speaker 1: it's the same situation because he's not going to sign there. Yes,
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Speaker 1: but skeens, I don't know the exact number of years
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Speaker 1: of control left. I believe it's four, and even if
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Speaker 1: it's three, whatever the case might be. The I mean,
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Speaker 1: the Pirates have to at least think about the future. Now.
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Speaker 1: If I were them, I would keep him, and I
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Speaker 1: would say, let's take a look at improving the team
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Speaker 1: for next year and taking advantage of the time we
15:12
Speaker 1: do have Paul Skins, because that time is obviously precious.
15:17
Speaker 1: It's not a situation where you can say we only
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Speaker 1: have Paul Skans now for one more year. No, you've
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Speaker 1: got him for a couple of more years, and if
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Speaker 1: you can do this right, you can actually get him.
15:27
Speaker 1: I'm looking up how many years of control right now
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Speaker 1: because I want to get this straight. So if I'm
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Speaker 1: the Pirates, maybe I start listening. But yes, I'm right,
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Speaker 1: it's four years more of control. So you run the
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Speaker 1: risk of him getting hurt of course if you keep him.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, my goodness, they have pitching
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Speaker 1: to compete. They don't have offense to compete. But they're
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Speaker 1: in a division where they can be reasonably competitive if
15:53
Speaker 1: they make the right moves and if they spend some money.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. Now, if you're the owner, Bob Nutting,
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Speaker 1: and you're not going to spend, and you're the general
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Speaker 1: manager Bench Sherrington and you know you're under restrictions with payroll,
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Speaker 1: and you really can't do much other than maybe trade
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Speaker 1: some of your pitching for hitting, which is something they
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Speaker 1: absolutely should do. Well, maybe then you look at trading
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Speaker 1: schemes too, But my goodness, you've got this unbelievable pitcher.
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Speaker 1: Try to win with him? How about that concept?
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Speaker 2: What a thought? Try to win with him? I love it?
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Speaker 1: Ken?
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Speaker 3: All right, another question here, I will flip you the bird. Well,
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Speaker 3: I hope not, geez. I know I'm behind on the news,
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Speaker 3: But why isn't Ron Washington coming back, obviously coming back
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Speaker 3: to manage the Angels. That's one of the openings. Is
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Speaker 3: he not well enough to return? What do you know, Ken, Well,
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Speaker 3: this was.
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Speaker 1: The Angel's decision not to bring him back. And they
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Speaker 1: may have decided because he's coming off a quadruple bypass,
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Speaker 1: because he is I believe seventy four that it just
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Speaker 1: wasn't the right circumstance to keep Ron Washington as their manager. Now,
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Speaker 1: we know Wash wants to and he wants to be
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Speaker 1: back in the game in that capacity, but certainly the
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Speaker 1: health and the age would discourage maybe teams from hiring him.
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Speaker 1: And that's unfortunate in a lot of ways because he
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Speaker 1: is someone that makes the game better. But this was
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Speaker 1: the Angel's decision, not Ron Washington's to not come back
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Speaker 1: as manager.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy lives and breathes baseball, been around this
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Speaker 3: game for a very long time. Certainly wishing him well
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Speaker 3: in whatever the future holds for Ron Washington. Okay, coming
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Speaker 3: up on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal on this special
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Speaker 3: edition on Wednesday, we are talking about Dude and Dork
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Speaker 3: of the Week.
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Speaker 2: Or dude first. Who is it?
18:51
Speaker 1: Jorge Polanco of the Seattle Mariners, and I think for
18:54
Speaker 1: obvious reasons a lot of based on what he has
18:56
Speaker 1: done in these playoffs. Game two of the Division Series
19:00
Speaker 1: home runs off Trek Scooble, Game five of the Division Series,
19:03
Speaker 1: the walk off in the fifteenth and then in the
19:06
Speaker 1: LCS he has been absolutely a dominant player four for nine,
19:10
Speaker 1: home run three RBIs. What's interesting is the perception is,
19:14
Speaker 1: after all, I just said he's having this amazing postseason,
19:17
Speaker 1: but he was only four for twenty two in the
19:19
Speaker 1: Division Series. Just so happened that the hits were incredibly clutch,
19:23
Speaker 1: the two homers off schoobl as I mentioned, and the
19:26
Speaker 1: walkoff in Game five. But for all of that, Hornye
19:28
Speaker 1: Polanco a much deserving due to the week, especially he
19:33
Speaker 1: was lingered on the free agent market until February second.
19:36
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted Horory Polanco. Guess what for seven point seven
19:40
Speaker 1: five million might have been the best signing of the winter.
19:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that.
19:43
Speaker 3: My Dude to the Week goes to Max Munsey, and
19:46
Speaker 3: I also want to thank the Athletics for dfaing him.
19:50
Speaker 3: I understand he was a different player at the time.
19:52
Speaker 3: I'm saying this tongue in cheek, but Max Munsey didn't
19:55
Speaker 3: have a job and he was kind of just sitting
19:56
Speaker 3: on the couch and here come the Los Angeles Daughters
19:59
Speaker 3: and gave him an opportunity. And the reason he's the
20:01
Speaker 3: Dude of the Week, Ken is because he now holds
20:03
Speaker 3: the record for most post season home runs in Dodgers' history.
20:08
Speaker 3: That's pretty impressive when you think about the fact that
20:10
Speaker 3: this guy didn't have a job at one point. He
20:12
Speaker 3: wasn't a homegrown talent like the Corey Seegers of the world.
20:15
Speaker 3: But he's he's on the list with the Justin Turners,
20:17
Speaker 3: Corey Seegers, Duke Snyder's. Congratulations Max Munsey, And honestly, he
20:22
Speaker 3: could have another one just by that much if that
20:24
Speaker 3: ball that was supposed to be a Grand Slam ended
20:26
Speaker 3: up into that eight six to two double play, but
20:29
Speaker 3: a home run last night. Congratulations to Max Munsey. Okay,
20:33
Speaker 3: time now for our dork of.
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Speaker 2: The week right after this.
20:43
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go first, I think my dork of
20:46
Speaker 3: the week. And let me preface this by saying, it
20:49
Speaker 3: is a very difficult job. What homeplate umpires do really
20:52
Speaker 3: the entire officiating crew for Major League Baseball, and obviously
20:55
Speaker 3: in the postseason they have two additional guys trying to
20:58
Speaker 3: make sure they're doing things right. But Doug Eddings, my goodness,
21:01
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it was it was a bad
21:03
Speaker 3: night or what's happening. But if you take a look
21:05
Speaker 3: at what happened in ALCS Game two. Can I know
21:08
Speaker 3: you're there, but it's just it's not a level of
21:11
Speaker 3: accuracy that we're looking for in the postseason. Ninety one
21:16
Speaker 3: percent overall accuracy, a lot of missed calls in terms
21:20
Speaker 3: of balls and strikes.
21:22
Speaker 2: So, Doug Eddings, you were my dork of the week.
21:24
Speaker 2: I know it's a difficult job.
21:25
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it isn't, but at the most important
21:28
Speaker 3: and critical time of the season, you got to be
21:31
Speaker 3: a little bit better than that behind the plate.
21:34
Speaker 1: Hey, it wasn't his best night, there's no question about that.
21:37
Speaker 1: Both teams had some beef with him. But at the
21:40
Speaker 1: same time, this outcome of the game was ten to three,
21:43
Speaker 1: so it was not like Doug Eddings influenced the outcome
21:46
Speaker 1: of the game. But alaha, I hear you. At this
21:48
Speaker 1: time of year, you want to see the absolute best
21:50
Speaker 1: from the umpires. Now, I will go with my dork
21:52
Speaker 1: of the week, and the questioner before kind of stole
21:55
Speaker 1: my thunder when he asked why there are so many
21:57
Speaker 1: managerial openings and not enough openings. That is what I
22:02
Speaker 1: wanted to discuss. It's not a singular dork of the week.
22:04
Speaker 1: It's just a trend in the industry where the managers
22:08
Speaker 1: get blamed and often, as I said, rightly so, but
22:12
Speaker 1: the gms seem to go and rebuild and rebuild and
22:15
Speaker 1: endlessly go on this loop. It's not right. And I
22:20
Speaker 1: don't know what owners are thinking when they allow certain
22:23
Speaker 1: gms to just keep going with their rebuilding plans or
22:26
Speaker 1: to keep going after failures that get managers fired. But
22:30
Speaker 1: it seems to be that the gms are far more
22:34
Speaker 1: secure than the managers, and there is an imbalance there.
22:36
Speaker 1: There's no question about that, and no one in the
22:38
Speaker 1: industry would dispute it. And in some cases, and I'm
22:41
Speaker 1: not going to name names in this particular show, this
22:43
Speaker 1: particular time, in some cases it just seems a little
22:47
Speaker 1: bit odd, to say the least. So I guess the
22:50
Speaker 1: dork of the week would be the industry, which is
22:53
Speaker 1: pretty broad for dork of the week, But it's the
22:56
Speaker 1: industry for blaming managers when gms all are just as responsible,
23:02
Speaker 1: if not more so, for the construction of the rosters certainly,
23:05
Speaker 1: and the direction of the team.
23:08
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, do you how often is
23:10
Speaker 3: it that the general manager and manager are a tandem,
23:15
Speaker 3: a package deal if you will, like for example, in
23:18
Speaker 3: New York. That's the one example I can think of
23:20
Speaker 3: the most with Brian Cashman, perhaps Aaron Boone. Now, Brian
23:23
Speaker 3: Cashman has been the GM of the Yankees for twenty
23:27
Speaker 3: something years, maybe almost thirty years, So how often does
23:30
Speaker 3: that happen ken where it's like, if the manager's going
23:33
Speaker 3: to go, the GM has to go with them, or
23:35
Speaker 3: vice versa.
23:36
Speaker 1: Washington Nationals, that was a good example of a situation
23:40
Speaker 1: where they fired both. And it doesn't always work out
23:44
Speaker 1: that way. Sometimes it does, And Alani, you make a
23:46
Speaker 1: great point there. Cashman and Boone are very closely linked,
23:50
Speaker 1: and it's difficult to imagine the Yankees dismissing one without
23:55
Speaker 1: the other. Now, I wrote at the end of the
23:56
Speaker 1: DS and I had members of my own family disagree
23:59
Speaker 1: with me on this, but I wrote that what happened
24:02
Speaker 1: with the Yankees this season was not cause to fire
24:05
Speaker 1: either one of them. And I know there are fans
24:07
Speaker 1: of the Yankees who are very frustrated with what has
24:09
Speaker 1: gone on here and the fact that it seems to
24:12
Speaker 1: end the same way every year. Well, a lot of
24:14
Speaker 1: fan bases would take the Yankees' problems and a lot
24:19
Speaker 1: of fan bases would like to be in the playoffs
24:20
Speaker 1: twenty seven or not twenty seven straight years, but have
24:23
Speaker 1: winning seasons twenty seven straight years the way Cashman is done,
24:26
Speaker 1: and to have the record that Aaron Boone has compiled
24:29
Speaker 1: over this time as well. As I wrote in that column,
24:33
Speaker 1: only one team gets to win the World Series. It's
24:35
Speaker 1: hard to win the World Series. It's really hard. And
24:37
Speaker 1: if the Dodgers do it back to back, it's going
24:39
Speaker 1: to be the first time in a long time that
24:42
Speaker 1: that has happened. But at the same time, to get
24:45
Speaker 1: back to the original point here, it's a question of accountability.
24:48
Speaker 1: And if you want to say, as a Yankee fan
24:50
Speaker 1: that Cashman and Boone should be held more accountable for
24:53
Speaker 1: the fact that they're not going further, I get that.
24:55
Speaker 1: I just don't think that this season would justify that.
24:59
Speaker 1: If you want to look at the whole picture and
25:00
Speaker 1: say it okay and make a change, but I don't
25:03
Speaker 1: see that happening.
25:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, front office accountability, but really an industry wide problem.
25:08
Speaker 1: All right.
25:09
Speaker 2: For those of you that are still with us, we
25:10
Speaker 2: appreciate it.
25:12
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, Ken, this is a situation
25:16
Speaker 3: with the Dodgers up two to Oh. A lot of
25:17
Speaker 3: comments obviously on the Dodgers' territory post game about the
25:21
Speaker 3: need for a salary cap. Well, there's some other big
25:24
Speaker 3: money teams that are not in the postseason anymore, Ken
25:27
Speaker 3: tell me more.
25:28
Speaker 1: Well, Alana, you raise a great point there, and I
25:32
Speaker 1: understand certain fans are going to react that way because
25:36
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have spent a gazillion dollars and spent it
25:39
Speaker 1: pretty well as it turns out. Blake Snell one hundred
25:41
Speaker 1: and eighty million, Yamamoto three hundred and twenty five million.
25:44
Speaker 1: Those were the first two pitchers in the LCS for them.
25:47
Speaker 1: They're both good. And Oh Glass now with his one
25:49
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million dollar extension and Show Hey with
25:52
Speaker 1: his seven hundred million dollar deal four hundred and eighty
25:55
Speaker 1: in present day value. Those guys are common. So yeah,
25:59
Speaker 1: I get the point. But at the same time, I
26:01
Speaker 1: would also say the Phillies are out. They were a
26:04
Speaker 1: top five payroll team. The Mets didn't even make the playoffs.
26:07
Speaker 1: They were a top five payroll team. The Yankees, another
26:10
Speaker 1: big money team, get knocked out in the Division Series
26:13
Speaker 1: by a Toronto Blue Jays club that is not a
26:16
Speaker 1: cheap team. By any stretch of the imagination, they're top
26:18
Speaker 1: ten payroll, but at the same time they're not this behemoth.
26:22
Speaker 1: So fans can say, yes, the sport needs a salary cap,
26:26
Speaker 1: and there's a legitimate argument you made on every side
26:28
Speaker 1: of this argument or question. But I would suggest that
26:33
Speaker 1: the price of a salary cap, and when I say
26:35
Speaker 1: the price, I mean the cost to the sport with
26:38
Speaker 1: a work stoppage that might last, I don't know as
26:40
Speaker 1: long as the year. That's too excessive. And as I've
26:43
Speaker 1: said before, figure out a way in this economic system
26:48
Speaker 1: to make it fairer. I don't know that anyone would
26:51
Speaker 1: suggest that the system is working great. It's not teams
26:54
Speaker 1: like Cleveland and Pittsburgh and smaller market teams, even though
26:57
Speaker 1: some of them are run poorly. Pittsburgh they are at
27:01
Speaker 1: a disadvantage, Tampa Bay out of disadvantage, Milwaukee at a disadvantage,
27:05
Speaker 1: no question about it. But the way, in my view,
27:09
Speaker 1: to make this better is to give these teams breaks,
27:14
Speaker 1: more advantages, more ways to compete, more draft picks, perhaps
27:18
Speaker 1: greater revenue sharing money. However you want to do it,
27:21
Speaker 1: there's a formula out there to make this better, and
27:24
Speaker 1: it's never going to be perfect the way this sport
27:26
Speaker 1: is designed without a cap. But again, do you want
27:29
Speaker 1: to cap at the expense of losing a season because
27:32
Speaker 1: that is the question that the sport is ultimately going
27:34
Speaker 1: to face. And as much positive momentum as baseball has
27:38
Speaker 1: right now, and it does, a lot of good things
27:40
Speaker 1: have happened. Same time, let me ask.
27:47
Speaker 2: You this really quickly.
27:48
Speaker 3: Can when you say that they're at a disadvantage, we
27:50
Speaker 3: don't have a ton of time. Maybe I shouldn't set
27:51
Speaker 3: you up. But why are they at a disadvantage? Is
27:55
Speaker 3: because the owners just don't have the same amount to spend.
27:59
Speaker 1: Yes, economic disparity, the amount of revenue that these markets generate,
28:03
Speaker 1: it's not even close. Los Angeles versus Pittsburgh is a joke.
28:06
Speaker 1: Los Angeles versus Milwaukee is a joke. Now, owners in
28:09
Speaker 1: the certain small markets can spend more than they do,
28:12
Speaker 1: and that's part of this problem here, It's part of
28:14
Speaker 1: the equation. But at the same time, there's no denying
28:18
Speaker 1: that the amount of revenue generated in individual markets is
28:22
Speaker 1: vastly different and growing wider all the time.
28:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we appreciate the insight as always. Ken Rosenthal,
28:29
Speaker 3: the hardest working man in the game where we look
28:31
Speaker 3: forward to seeing you as the ALCS continues on Fox,
28:34
Speaker 3: and at.
28:35
Speaker 2: Some point next week, Fair Territory is coming back.
28:37
Speaker 3: We're not certain yet, we're struggling everything with schedule, but
28:40
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28:42
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