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AEW Hot Topics | A Brand New Day · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Ignition.
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  Speaker 2: Ship five four three two one zero.
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  Speaker 3: All right, guys, well we're going to get started, and
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  Speaker 3: let's just hope that I don't obliberate, obliterate. I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: even say that I picked a word. It's hard to
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  Speaker 3: say that I don't obliterate, obliterate.
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  Speaker 4: Liberty, mutual liberty, liberty.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead, go ahead, I tell you what. Can I crawl
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  Speaker 3: into a hole and just come out of it again?
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  Speaker 5: Take two?
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  Speaker 3: I think this may take three. All right, so I've
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  Speaker 3: already messed up apologizing for totally crapping the introduction last
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  Speaker 3: week by crapping the introduction this week. So I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to take a deep breath or we're going to go again. Ready,
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  Speaker 3: here we go. It's Tuesday. You know what that means.
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  Speaker 3: It's time for Ignition with the aaw Fan podcast team.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a big show tonight. Kind of have to
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  Speaker 3: speed this up tonight because there are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: stuff to talk about. Hopefully we want to give the
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  Speaker 3: time that everything deserves, though. We're not going to rush through.
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  Speaker 3: But don't be mad at me if I say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: moving on in the middle of a sentence, probably one
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  Speaker 3: of my sentences. Anyway, We've got a big week. We've
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  Speaker 3: got AW Dynamite and AW Collision, a three hour block
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  Speaker 3: Wednesday night at eight pm Eastern time. Then we also
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  Speaker 3: have we also have fair Way to Hell at eight
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  Speaker 3: pm Saturday night. It's just a one hour show. I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 3: who's going to go to a one hour show? Maybe
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  Speaker 3: they have something else arranged, like a rig of honor
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  Speaker 3: tapings some big matches. Is something to that effect. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, uh, but we'll see. But anyway, let's get
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  Speaker 3: on with the show.
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  Speaker 2: This is Kelson and this is Barry. But I don't
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  Speaker 6: Switching to a bit of good sad news. Rebel received
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  Speaker 6: a humongous outpouring of support after billing her terminal als
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  Speaker 6: s I know, I'm pretty sure I can speak for
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  Speaker 6: everyone up here. She has our full support, prayers with
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  Speaker 6: her for you know, it's just it's I don't know
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  Speaker 6: what to say about a disease like that.
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  Speaker 3: Man, It's the only thing you can really say is
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  Speaker 3: we love your Rebel.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's really it.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough. This is tough.
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  Speaker 6: It's great. It was good to see how much support
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  Speaker 6: she had.
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  Speaker 7: And by the way, this is Robins on this date.
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  Speaker 7: Back in twenty twenty one, the Pinnacle defeated the Inner
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  Speaker 7: Circle in the very first Blood and DUTs match. Also,
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  Speaker 7: Julia Hart made her aw Dynamite debut, and Blood and
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  Speaker 7: Guts has only gotten like a hundred times more violent
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  Speaker 7: since this said.
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  Speaker 8: Match, Hey guys, this is your girls. So related to
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  Speaker 8: Xavier Woods and Kofi Kingston being released by w W,
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  Speaker 8: Bailey posted this on Twitter related to Xavier, she said,
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  Speaker 8: thank you for everything. I've shared a locker room for
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  Speaker 8: you for the last thirteen years and you were always
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  Speaker 8: there for us, made us laugh, reminded us of our worth,
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  Speaker 8: and got us paid to have fun with our friends.
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  Speaker 8: One in a million and I agree one hundred percent
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  Speaker 8: with what she's saying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Also, before we go any further, I did want
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  Speaker 3: to give a shout out to Clown, who is a
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  Speaker 3: regular over at the Everything Pro Wrestling podcast. They're doing
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  Speaker 3: their Dynamite review tomorrow night. I guess, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And he also says positive thoughts to Rebel and Jeff Canniball,
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  Speaker 3: who was also battling ALS. That's that's just horrible and
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  Speaker 3: and there is it, Meters. It seemed like the people
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  Speaker 3: that are battling ALS are getting younger every day. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's something I don't know, but look, let's move on
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  Speaker 3: with the show because that's all we can do. The
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  Speaker 3: first thing we're going to talk about kind of carrying
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  Speaker 3: on with what Bailey has said new Day the new day?
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  Speaker 3: Is it? Is it done new day or they just
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  Speaker 3: go buy new Day.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I think it's you can use either one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes it is, Yes, it is all right.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, they were not released and if rumors are true,
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  Speaker 3: well reports are true, they were asked to take a
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  Speaker 3: pay cut and they said no. They got their release.
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  Speaker 3: It was a mutual release. Fifel is reporting that it
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  Speaker 3: is not a clean termination and other words and other words,
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  Speaker 3: they still have to go through their ninety day clause.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to call it, you know, a noncompete
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  Speaker 3: because it's really not because they're still on the payroll. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's basically they gave their ninety day notice, but they're
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  Speaker 3: still getting paid until the end of it. But do
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  Speaker 3: you guys think that Uh Kofi Kingston by the way,
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  Speaker 3: his real name is Kofe, his last name is not Kingston,
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  Speaker 3: so he will be able to keep at least the
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  Speaker 3: Kofee moniker. Uh.
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  Speaker 4: But uh Xavier Woods Woods, Yeah, Xavier Uh, Xavier Woods
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  Speaker 4: is probably Xavier Woods is probably gonna go by Austin Creed.
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  Speaker 4: What would mean if they came to a W we'd
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  Speaker 4: have Austin Gun and Ace, Austin and Austin were just
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  Speaker 4: they should just form a faction and take down to
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  Speaker 4: don call family or joined the Don Kellen's family.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever. But anyway, do you guys think that they're a
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  Speaker 3: good fit for AW What are your honest opinions on this?
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  Speaker 3: Not as you know, oh yeah, we get a big name,
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  Speaker 3: but you really see them fitting in.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they would fit in well. I think
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  Speaker 6: both are good workers, charismatic. You know, in the tag
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  Speaker 6: team division it's strong, like, there's a lot of great
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  Speaker 6: tag teams, a lot of good matches they could work.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I'd love to see them versus the Young Bucks,
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  Speaker 6: the Goals them and FTR, you know, the Guns like
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  Speaker 6: you mentioned the Dogs, Like, there's so many good teams
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  Speaker 6: they could work with us. I think they'd fit and
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  Speaker 6: work really well and being a nice new addition to
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  Speaker 6: the division.
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  Speaker 3: Do you guys think that the New Day? I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what they'd be called. Obviously they're not going to
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  Speaker 3: be the New Day. They may not come together at
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  Speaker 3: the same time. One may come, neither may come. One
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  Speaker 3: may come first, but another may come to once down
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  Speaker 3: the line. You never know what their personal plans are,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, do you see them as remaining as
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  Speaker 3: a team.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would keep them as a team, but we
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  Speaker 7: did see back in twenty nineteen, Kofe got over as
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  Speaker 7: a singles competitor, so you do have that. I'd love
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  Speaker 7: to see them work with Swerve because you know how
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  Speaker 7: we know that they have a friendship. Swerve even talked
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  Speaker 7: about it in a press conference, I think after Dynasty
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  Speaker 7: when he won the World Championship.
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  Speaker 5: So you have that right there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, on our chat, Clown came up
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  Speaker 3: with a name for them, a new name, Better Tomorrow. Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I like it. Like that.
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  Speaker 2: I like that too, It's.
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  Speaker 3: Different than what I think it was. Andrewsiian made fun
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  Speaker 3: of the way w W picks their wrestlers' names. It's
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  Speaker 3: like they throw a whole bunch of stuff in a
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  Speaker 3: hat and then they pull it out and I'm like, oh.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 3: This and that. It's usually a state and a disease
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  Speaker 3: or something. I can't remember what they said.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like, you know, to Maryland the newest exactly
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  Speaker 9: know I can read it.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually gonna say Klamydia Idaho, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: which is actually quite a pretty name. My sister's dog
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  Speaker 3: is named Klymydia.
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  Speaker 1: So but any I'm that dog is very in.
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  Speaker 2: Fact, That's what I said, Yeah, exactly what.
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  Speaker 5: I'm stealing your thunder and I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: So so I I really think that a that the
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  Speaker 1: two are better together as a team. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see him with Swerve. I don't think that's a reality,
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  Speaker 1: but because Swerre needs to be by him. So but
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  Speaker 1: those two, those two are great. I would want I
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  Speaker 1: really want to know what's going on with Big E
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  Speaker 1: and and if he's going to stay or whatever, because
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  Speaker 1: those three together will remarketability out of the wazoo for
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  Speaker 1: for a w and everything they do.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's safe to assume that Big Ee
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  Speaker 3: is never going to wrestle again.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to wrestle, but I really do think
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  Speaker 1: he could be a manager or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's got a cushy you know thing going
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  Speaker 3: on at w W right now, So he's getting unless
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  Speaker 3: unless they asked him to take at exactly yea, Vale,
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  Speaker 3: I think you're just say something. I'm sorry, go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. I was like very surprised that they got released.
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  Speaker 8: I thought they would be bound to WW forever and
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  Speaker 8: ever and ever. But now they are released, I'm just excited.
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  Speaker 8: I really want them to see with the young Bucks.
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  Speaker 8: We have been teased and teased over and over and
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  Speaker 8: over again, either on being the elite or you know,
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  Speaker 8: when they were doing their video gaming stuff. You know,
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  Speaker 8: I think I think AW is where they're where they're going.
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  Speaker 8: I'm thinking that they would be a good fit with
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  Speaker 8: Bobby Lashley and Sheldon and MVP and their Hurt Syndicate.
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  Speaker 8: I'm seeing them in the group.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was thinking the same thing and that.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was MVP that came out said something
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  Speaker 3: in an interview just this week just because wrestlers are
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  Speaker 3: black doesn't mean that they're going to be in the
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  Speaker 3: Hurt Syndicate. And he kind of took a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of offense to it. And I don't know if he
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  Speaker 3: meant that in a Kefabi kind of way or not,
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  Speaker 3: but it does make sense. I mean, think about it.
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  Speaker 3: The only person they've ever had in their group was
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  Speaker 3: a big Hebrew, you know. So by the way in
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  Speaker 3: our chat, Clown says keep them as a team, knock
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  Speaker 3: out the dream matches, then do whatever feels right, and
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  Speaker 3: that seems like a pretty good plan. That really does.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, especially since they're good comedy dudes. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: thinking about them in the conglomeration. Initially to bring them in,
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  Speaker 2: you can have their dream matches as babyfaces, and then
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  Speaker 2: to your point, when it's ready, you turn them. And
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  Speaker 2: that's what you actually run with from a storyline perspective
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  Speaker 2: going forward, whether they're in a group or just heals
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  Speaker 2: on there. But I think you bring him in his
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  Speaker 2: baby faces and run through some dream matches first. Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna get cheered, so don't bring him in. Don't
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  Speaker 2: try to bring him in his heels.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, you look at Rickset. You know he was gonna
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  Speaker 6: get cheered when he came in. They brought him in
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  Speaker 6: as a face. They let him do his stuff build up,
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  Speaker 6: and then when he turned heel, it took work perfectly.
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  Speaker 6: And yeah, now one of the best heels.
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  Speaker 2: All these guys do comedy stuff perfectly in line with
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  Speaker 2: what the conglomeration does. I'm just imagining them doing bits
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  Speaker 2: with oc and stuff, and then you have them turn Coss,
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  Speaker 2: Roddy or somebody you know something or other, and then
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  Speaker 2: you're off for the races with them. But you know
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna get cheered. Initially and just let the fans cheer.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I want FDR versus Young Bucks versus
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  Speaker 7: Jet Speed versus New Day Ladder match all in.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that could be fun. They'll be definitely available the
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  Speaker 3: available boil Boy.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody somebody say available.
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  Speaker 3: I said available. Liberty, mutual.
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  Speaker 5: Liberty, liberty.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, in our chat, Marcus the entertainer is
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  Speaker 3: heres saying the best a W radio show. He's our fan.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, super Steed chiming one of the movies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just have Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: By the way, Berry, I'm not saying like, have Swerve
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  Speaker 7: and the Young and New Day form like a trio
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  Speaker 7: and put them in the trios division. You can leave
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  Speaker 7: Swerve in the singles division, but the three of them
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  Speaker 7: together as like a faction or something that would be
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  Speaker 7: musty television.
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  Speaker 6: Is you.
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  Speaker 7: We know how good Swerve is. We've seen how good
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  Speaker 7: Tofi is.
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  Speaker 6: Xavier.
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  Speaker 7: I think with the two of them he can pick
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  Speaker 7: game up. I think it would be.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome Marcus, and the chat says he's listening to us
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  Speaker 3: on the road tonight. He further went on to say
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  Speaker 3: something pretty interesting. I would like to see Creed and
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  Speaker 3: Renee team back on some kind of Weekly Show.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: How's he texting and driving at the same time. That's
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  Speaker 2: not safe.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know they do have this thing that they
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  Speaker 3: can press the button on your steering wheel.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, make sure don't text and drive kids.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: It'sous. Yeah, yeah, well it's dangerous probably the drive and
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  Speaker 3: listen to us. You know, let's let's be real here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can be distracted, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to move on because yes, Liberty
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  Speaker 3: Mutual doug that insurance.
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  Speaker 1: Once you're down listening to the show.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's hold off on sponsored by the way, these
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  Speaker 6: guys are just insane.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, come on, let's let's move on. You know, the
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  Speaker 3: joke has gotten stale, kind of like Eddie Kingston's career.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, we're gonna do something that we've really not done
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  Speaker 3: a lot of. We're gonna get a little tribalistic here.
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  Speaker 3: I think we may not be, but it isn't my
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  Speaker 3: opinion in the opinion of many others that TIKO is
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  Speaker 3: kind of like obliterating professional wrestling wrestling their decisions that
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  Speaker 3: they've made with the blood money stuff, with the you know,
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  Speaker 3: just cuts or whatever cuts that there major cuts are
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  Speaker 3: asking their wrestlers to take, you know, leading to releases
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  Speaker 3: and whatnot. You know, frankly, do you guys see what
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  Speaker 3: Tiko is doing now hurting aw in the long run,
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  Speaker 3: it's certainly hurting wrestlers.
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  Speaker 6: No, I think it will help in the long run
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  Speaker 6: because I think there's going to be fans that have
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  Speaker 6: been you know, WWE for their whole life, but have
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  Speaker 6: kind of looked at other places and might begonding kind
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  Speaker 6: of like, you know what, I really don't like what
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  Speaker 6: this company is doing. You know, I'm getting less and
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  Speaker 6: less entertainment, and they're cutting people even though they're recording
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  Speaker 6: record profits, Like like, how can you be record profits
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  Speaker 6: and telling your wrestlers we need you to take a
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  Speaker 6: pay cut, Like, I'm sorry. If you're losing money, you
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  Speaker 6: can do that, but you can't do it when you're
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  Speaker 6: making record freaking profits like they're just coming. I mean
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  Speaker 6: you can, but if they're coming in three D scum
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  Speaker 6: sucking buttholes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important to separate morals from corporatism, and many
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  Speaker 2: of us are frustrated with the moral aspect, which is
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  Speaker 2: valid with the corporatus aspect, and those things are going
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  Speaker 2: to butt heads, which is why we get passionate as
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  Speaker 2: fans because we feel and empathize for the performers when
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  Speaker 2: this happens. But they are a company that is focused
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  Speaker 2: entirely on profit, and it's a new era as a
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  Speaker 2: pro wrestling fan to have a promotion that is so
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  Speaker 2: hyper focused on that to the detriment of the experience
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  Speaker 2: of fans and the performers that I think it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be very strange to observe over the next few years.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think it's important people keep those separate
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  Speaker 2: from the morality playing the corporate display because they're not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily related, and I do think some of these decisions
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  Speaker 2: are difficult for them, but they still take the corporatis standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it's a business. I have a number to
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  Speaker 2: hit from my executives, I have to hit it. And
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: as somebody who has to lay people off specifically just
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  Speaker 2: because they live in expensive state or city and I
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: can get somebody for forty percent less in another country
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  Speaker 2: that does about as good of a job, that's the
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  Speaker 2: type of decisions that I have to make on a
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  Speaker 2: regular basis as well, and it sucks and it's not
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  Speaker 2: easy to do, but that's that's something we haven't really
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  Speaker 2: had to experience publicly in a professional wrestling organization before
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  Speaker 2: and for fans, it's going to be new and uncomfortable
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  Speaker 2: to go through.
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  Speaker 3: Got me, let me let me break in here because
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  Speaker 3: I Cloud said something in chat and I want to
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  Speaker 3: get I want to say what he said, and I
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  Speaker 3: also want to get your reactions to this, everybody. So
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: let me put up what he said in chat. He said,
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  Speaker 3: how can the head of KKO say he made sixty
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  Speaker 3: plus million then say we can't pay you the agreed
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  Speaker 3: upon terms of your contract.
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  Speaker 2: You need to take a pay cut because that's their target.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's what the target is for their
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  Speaker 2: for their budget. It's that simple that again, take the
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  Speaker 2: more thing. It doesn't have to be moral. They were
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  Speaker 2: given a number by the board. That's the number they
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: have to hit. Period. That's how they do.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: But but you know, it's beyond the morality. I don't
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: think it's a moral thing when you just flat out
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: say everybody on our roster is expendable, because that's what
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: they're basically saying, Yeah they are, So I got it.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: I gotta say the whole you know, take the morality
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: argument out of it. Why why can you not be
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: a good business and still be decent.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not disagreeing with you. That's just their model.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: They don't that's just the fact the model.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we right. Can I just jump in about.
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: The reason why I'm not watching w W anymore is
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: for I'm sorry, my sorry for the language, but for
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: shitty storylines and things like that, very very unpredictable that
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: is now becoming predictable. So who said that? Fans who
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: were WWE like they I've been watching WWE like I'm
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: probably like six seven years old, and for the last
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: five years I started to watch less and less and
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: less because I was getting bored by the storylines and
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: all the things that happened backstage. So ever since TKO
• 21:39
  Speaker 8: came in, I've never watched WrestleMania the last two or three.
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: The Royal Rumble last year was very predictable with the winners,
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: so I was like, I'm done. I'm really done, and
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: I'm so glad that I don't watch WWA anymore because
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: it sucks. I'm sorry.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I want to cover something real quick, Kelson that's kind
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: of outside wrestling that I think goes into here, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: we'll explain some of what we're seeing and it starts
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: with rim Manuel, So if you're not familiar with Ari
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: em Manuel, he found an endeavor he worked initially cut
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: his teeth working for a CAA Creative Artists Association I
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: think our agency, which is a talent agency in a
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: literary agency in Hollywood. He came up and actually, if
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you've seen the movie or the show Entourage, Ari Gold,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I think is the character is roughly based on Ori
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Manuel and what CAIA did. They're referred to somewhat as
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: the Evil Empire, and this is where he cut his
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: teeth before breaking off to form his own talent agency.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Their model is much of what we're going to see
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: from WWE. In Hollywood, there is a constant stream of
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: people that want to come in to be writers, actors, directors. Right,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: you're never going to run out of new talent. So
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: their model is they'll sign people. Somebody a hot script
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: or a great read, or a young actor or some
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: director out of film school has got an indie film
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that makes it big. They'll sign them and they basically
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: get six months to two years to do something, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: if they don't, they just ghost them and they cut them.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And their model is they hope they'll bring in a
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: new crop of people. Constantly, constantly, they hope they get
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a whale that they can land, and then that's who
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: they'll ride and make all their money off of. And
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: who that actor, that writer or that director or whoever.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: All of the content the IP they produce, they get
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: a cut of all of that. In addition to that,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: CAA and other talent agencies use something called packaging, where
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: they'll say, okay, yeah, you can hire this actor, but
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: you also have to hire these other actors. You have
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to agree to bring on this director for this other
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: side project, and they package all of this stuff together,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: and then they get fees off of that as well.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: A lot of times the talent doesn't even know that's
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: going on, and there may be a deal that they
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: think is close that blows up because their agent's trying
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to do a package too on something else. It doesn't go,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: so they tell the the writer or director whoever, Oh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that didn't work out. I have friends who used to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: be with CIA, and they left specifically because the stuff
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: that they were working on took a couple of years
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: to get going wasn't fast enough for CIA. They cut them.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: They went to a smaller boutique agency within six months
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: the deal the stuff they were working, they got off
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: to the races and they made their stuff. That's what
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you're seeing in WWE. That's the model they're going to
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: start following. It's going to be the release and sign
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: model and promotion model we've seen from NXT every year,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: much more aggressive. If you're not cutting it on the
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: main roster, they're going to try to negotiate you down
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: from what they initially signed you at because they don't
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: perceive your value. If you don't like it, they'll let
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: you go because they believe in their model. They're going
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to bring somebody else in and they're going to get
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a whale out of each class. They're going to get
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a John Cena, a Rock you know, whoever, stone Cold.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They only need one of those, and they can milk
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that person for ten to fifteen years from each class
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and eventually that'll build. And that's the model they're going
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: to continue to follow. And that's that's what I see
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: happening with the WWE rosters.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: But Barry, would you agree that if you take a
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: whale out of the ocean or no longer whale, that's
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: the problem that you're running into with w WE, in
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: my opinion is because how let me let me let
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: me talk. If you take a wrestler out of a
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: wrestling ring, you're no longer a wrestler. Sure when you
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: write as much as you can. And then so there
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: was a meme that went around earlier, I think in
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: the middle of last week where w w E is
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: no longer rest World Wrestling Entertainment. It's just world entertainment.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: I mean there's no wrestling involved in it anymore.
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: I mean it's called WP world promo entertainment.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: That's basically what you know to your point on the
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: whale thing Tellson though, but they view this as taking
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Roman Reigns into film. They view Jade Cardoll in the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: film and TV like that's endeavor and the t k
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: O umbrella has their fingers in entertainment like, you're not
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: far off. So so yeah, they're.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I did a meme to answer that meme. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: put WWE and AW side by side. AEW said, ae
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: W where the best wrestle WWE. We'll be right back.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: They're not looking for they can turn into entertainers. They're
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: looking for entertainers they can turn into wrestlers.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: In some instances Yeah. Yeah, they pull from a lot
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of different vectors. Go ahead, o' kick. It's not though
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: they're shuffling out the old They they believe in their
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: farm system so deeply that this is the model they're
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: pivoting to. Now, Oh, all of the older folks, you're
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you're I If I am a woman on that roster
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: over the age of thirty five and I'm not on
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: TV on a regular basis, and sometimes even if I am,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I would be concerned. If I'm a man over the
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: age of forty and I'm not on TV or close
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to forty on TV on a regular basis, I would
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: be nervous. That's that's the model they're going to follow.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: There will be a constant stream of people they can
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: pull from from college, from CrossFit, from whatever they think
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: they can put through their camp and convert into a performer.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Most will fail. They only need the one or two
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: big ones to succeed out of each class, and that's
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: what they're going to keep cycling through.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Marcus, the entertainer in our chat said, ww is part
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: of an umbrella with TKO and Endeavor. Now some WWE
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: profits go to depth debts of other enterprises in this umbrella,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: which is the truth. And I mean that's no secret.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And uh, Marcus, I just got to ask you who
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: you're swerbing all over the road when you were typing that,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: what did you pull over? Yeah? Look with TKO ww
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: WWE fans are not happy with TKO's there's a lack
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: of trust there. I see it all the time. I
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: see a couple people commenting about it all the time.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: They don't know what to make of a t KO.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: The fact that the matter is is that it's just, uh,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I got a mute. Whoever is unmuted? They could a
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: ton of noise, but anyway, Yeah, it's just there's a
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: lot of uncertainty. Are your favorite wrestlers or performers or
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: talents still going to be in WWE two weeks from now?
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: What's going on? You know, it's it's kind of a
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: tough time. You know. The good news is that there
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: is an AW and there is a stardom, and there
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: is a tjp W, and there is a new Japan
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and MLW is doing really well with their signings, you know. So,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I mean there are options for these talents. They may
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: not make as much as they would have made. And
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Marcus says that he's a passenger in the car, So, yeah,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: well that makes sense. You should have not got to
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: begin with, jeez. But but my point is is that
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: you're not going to make as much money as you
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: probably would have in WWE or AW, but you may
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: make as much money as you would have in WWE
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: after they ask you to cut your salary.
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: I think Backlash will be okay this weekend, but there's
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: not that one match that I'm like, oh my god,
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: I have to see that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, let's move on because we could go
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: in circles on that. I kind of want to talk
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: about some AW stuff the dub so let's talk about
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about MJF because he just lost the other night.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Kevin Knight didn't win the TNT Championship, but he's still
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: saying that it doesn't matter. He's going after the AW
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: World Championship. How does he get to that point other
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: than I mean, the only thing I could think of
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: is winning the owen Hart Tournament, which means that MGF
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: is gonna happen actually wrestles some matches like on a
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: weekly basis.
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: I think the match happens at double or nothing. And
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: Darby said he had the perfect thing for Max to
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: put on the line. I'm I would be surprised if
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: it isn't. If I'll give you the match, but if
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: you lose, you can never challenge for the title.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Again, I hope that's not it, because that's been overdone
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: now that you don't.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Think what they did with Hangman.
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what Max mentions every single freaking chance he gets.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: So that's exactly why Darby will say that's what he
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: has to agree to. You know he's gonna get done
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: to him what he did to hang Man.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I honestly don't think so. If anything, he would say, hey,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I'll give you the match, but if I win, Hangman
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: can challenge for the world champion.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Tip again, I was gonna say the same thing.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: But you know what I think it's gonna be is
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: if Darby wins, he gets the lead role of Happy
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Gilmore two son of Happy, it would be three three,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, Happy go more three son of Happy Extreme Happy. Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: I do you have to say?
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: This and the will Osprey story I think are not
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: just the two best stories in ae W, but the
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: two best stories across wrestling right now, Like.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll be getting into the will Osprey bit in
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: just a little bit.
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: I know, but I'm just saying this and the will
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: Osprey story, I just find them both extremely interesting. We
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: think they're gonna go one way and then they don't.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Like I thought Max was gonna win the TNT Championship
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: and he was gonna put that on the line to
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: get get Darby to give him the rematch, but obviously
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: didn't happen.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Rowlands, let me interrupt you because we're getting a lot
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: of echo from you. Yeah, everything, everything that's said is
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: coming right back at us. Yeah. And super Steve, you're
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: gonna have to mute when you're not talking because there's
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of static coming out of your end. Let's
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: look at the chat real quick. Let's see what he
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Let's see what Clown had to say about this. He said,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: so is I He said, Darby just has to say
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I want to fight the best, So if you want
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: a shot, you gotta let Hangman challenge for the title
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: once again. That way, win or lose, Hangman is free
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: of the stipulation. Yeah, that's the only thing I could
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: think of. If Darby does go with him head to
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: head with MJF again, it's gonna be that.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's a waste of that
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: stip Yeah, MJF has to offer that, he has to
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: offer to let that oh, to get Hangman to do something.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think a third party can should be the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: person to get rid of that stipulation. I think that's
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: in their pocket for a bit.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: And especially why would Darby do that. It's not like
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: him and Hangman are the best of friends or anything
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: like that. Like maybe if it was a Kinny Omega
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: or you know, even were just for selfish reasons. But
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: Darby has no reason to do that. But he does
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: have a reason to want Max to never be able
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: to challenge for the title again.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: But now, if you remember back when this stipulation went
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: into effect and we were talking about how does MGF
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: and hang Man, how does Hangman get out of this stipulation?
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I stated at that time, is that MGF is going
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: to need help. He may go to Hangman and say, hey,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: if you help me get the title back, I'll lift
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: that stipulation him.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: It was a verbal one.
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: It was never written in a contract.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Right, It's a gentleman's agreement. That's why I'm Jeff's got
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to be the one to release him from it.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Jeff, Yeah right.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: The what I will say, though, Chris, is it was
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: Darby that helped Hangman in that Texas death match at
• 34:29
  Speaker 7: all in Texas to beat Moxley.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but that was more about Moxley than it was Ham.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised if that's what
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: Darby does. And I also say that because I think
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: is winning the title.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Fact, we've got Peter Trand in the in the chat
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: and he says he Christopher. I don't know if you're talking.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Is Peter talking to Chris on the in the podcast team?
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Do you know Peter Tran Chris, I don't believe so.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: But okay, maybe somebody else in the chat is named Christopher.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: But anyway, welcome, uh Peter, and we are going to
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: move on because we've got we've still got a ton
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: to talk.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: About, you know.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but this this one is a pretty interesting
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: topic to me because Willow Nightingale come back Killer. I
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: have a graphic up with five women. If you're not
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: watching on YouTube and are listening to this on the
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: podcast channels, Britt Baker, Nila Rose, who just became the
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: aae W Tag Team Championship with Night Champion with Night Shade.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I believe it was Mercedes Monet ReHO and Ruby Soho.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Three of these women have been AW World Women's Champions.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Of course, Mercedes Monette has been the TBS champion, the
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: longest running TBS champion, and the greatest TBS champion of
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: all time. And Ruby Soho, well, she's just here because
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: she's never won a belt before. But somebody's got to
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: take down down will On nine Gale, and it's pretty
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: assured that it's going to be somebody that's on a comeback.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: When you think so, do you think it's one of
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: these seven women or do you think it's somebody else
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: that's not in this photo?
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: Well, my pick, I'm sorry, I know people won't be
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: okay with it, but my pick is Mercedes because I'm
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: a huge Mercedes fan. But if I don't pick her,
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: I would pick Ruby. I would pick Ruby one hundred percent.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: I want her back in AW.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough, and I have no problem with Mercedes
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: either anybody else.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: I agree with the rollery there. I think I like
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Ruby as the one to being the one to kind
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: of stop to come back kill her and win that
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: title and get her herself a big moment. But like
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: you said, all of these other women have had big moments,
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: not to you know, just because they have, they don't
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: deserve it again. But I think Mercedes is going to
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: focus on the world title when she comes back. Three hoo.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: I love, but she's gone and then back and gone
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: and back so much. I don't know if they have
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: faith in her to be a champion. For a faker,
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: I think she's doing very well in her dentistry job.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was that was That was bad.
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: I was prod say something, No, you weren't. Yes, I
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: kind of.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Anybody else with any comments about this before we
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: move on, Steve.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Do you guys think that, like, because I look at
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Mercedes as the easy pick, and I'm wondering if some
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: of that is because they're trying to kind of establish
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Mercedes and Willow as one of those longer term feuds.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: So we've got Swerve and Hanger, m F. Darby with
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: their history. On the women's side, there isn't really there'sn't
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: really anybody that's got that long term feud you can
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: heat up at any time. Do you think there's a
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: chance that's kind of what they're going for.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know. You know. One other thing that I
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: can say is that we still have not heard anything
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: about what is ailing Tony's Storm.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: Which yeah, I was gonna say.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, even though they say it's been reported that
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Tony Storm's not going to be back in twenty twenty six,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: we've seen the alternate versions of Tony Storm recently, So
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: maybe she is coming back, and maybe this is where
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: she's going. I don't see Mercedes because she's already been
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: the TBS champion. Why would she go after that again,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: She's got to go after Tekla.
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: Win.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: I believe that would make her the first ever for
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: poke around champion.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: If she how do you figure she's only got one
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: championship at a W Why did.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: I think they won the Why did I think they
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: won the tag titles?
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Because you're just you're you're not thinking.
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: I've Oh, I wanted them to win so much. I
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: guess I made it up in my mind.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: You convinced yourself. I do that all the time. I
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: look in the mirror and I totally, you know, lose
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: that whole Brad Pitt area that I thought I had
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: before looking in the mirror. But let's move on. I
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: do want to move on quickly, because again, we have
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: a lot to get into. I think we've said what
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: what needed to be said. Uh, Shane's not here, but Chris,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: explain to us what happened with the United Empire in
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: New Japan. I know that, Andradi Alidolo won the i
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: w g P Global Heavyweight Championship and the United Empire,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: which included will Osprey. Also what about care to explain.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Yes, Andrade on at night one of Wrestling Down Taku
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: if he did Yokuki in a fantastic match for the
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: i w t P Global Heavyweight Title.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Which is what I just said.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: And then night two, will Osprey, Great o'conn and Hanare
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: won the never Open Weight six man tag titles, and
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: Callum Newman retained the i w t P.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, we're not We're not. We're not going to go
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: into all the n W g j p W stuff.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Because reunited him. You asked about United Empire.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: In relation to will Ospray. I don't care about anything else.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but NJ to BW bores me to tears,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: and I don't want to feel like falling asleep in
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: the middle of a podcast.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: That was a very interesting deal. At the end, after
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: Calum Newman's match, he was going to attack Shingo Chicagi,
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: who he had just defeated, and Osprey like no, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Calum basically was like, this is who we are, like
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: you need to remember that. And Osprey was a little reluctant,
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: but he did blast him with the Hidden Blade and
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: knocked him the fl You know, one of.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: The things that I find interesting, Chris about this whole
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: thing is uh Is Andrades went over Yoda Yoda's Yoda Suji,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I did it again. Liberty liberty, Liberty, liberty. But yeah,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: because Yoda was the or Suji was the one that
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: was really coming down hard on a W saying I
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: don't like AW. I don't like our relationship, meaning Nu
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Japan's relationship with AW. So this is definitely something to
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: me that's setting up a matchup Forbidden Door, which makes
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: sense because because it's an IWGP title, so there is
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: a chance that Andretti will lose it at Forbidden Door.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: If Andretta was fighting Yoda Suji for the I don't
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: know the TNT title, there's no way in hell Suji
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: would win it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: You know. So originally this match was going to be
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: a Kid versus Yoga Suji, which added a whole other
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: layer because Game Kid before coming to AW was all
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: about New Japan, like I mean, he's a dojo guy,
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: like he was New Japan, New Japan. And then the moment,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: I don't know if maybe he felt like they didn't
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: offer him enough money or a W offered him more
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: or whatever, he was just like F New Japan, F Tanahasi,
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: I'm all in with a W, and I think the
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: same result would have happened. Yeah, this is definitely build
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: up in a big way for Forbidden Doing.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Now with the United Empire, is there a power struggle
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: for leadership and United Empire right now?
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: You know it's interesting like United Empire they have that
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: great respect for willof Ray because you know he started it.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: He you know, he brought back Great o'conn from his discursion.
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: He really gave Hanare a new les on life. But
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: when he left and they were a little directionless, and
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: Calum Newman has stepped up and brought him back to
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: what they were because Osprey was not always the happy,
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: smiling baby face. Do you think of he was an assassin?
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: He was I knew that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean he was a he was
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: he was a baby face I think when he first
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: came into AW, but quickly turned it into a heel
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: you know for quite a while don Koalas and all
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: that stuff. Yeah, sure, you know. So it's going to
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: be interesting to see what happens with with the United
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Empire and a W, because, like I said, I really
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: don't care what United Empire does in New Japan because
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I can't watch New Japan. It's like watching paint dry.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: To me, it.
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: Feels like this is a good two pronged story, like
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: they're doing from two different perspectives. In a W with
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: well a Spray, it's more of the mental aspect, whereas
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: in New Japan it seems like they're doing the n
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: ring stuff.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: And I kind of like how.
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: They're gonna, m h, I guess weave the story together.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: And yeah, it was a I was gonna say that
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: was a lot of fun with the six man tag
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: title match, you know, him working with Great o'conn and
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: PINAI like they were definitely more vicious than he wanted
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: to be and had to be like, hey, this is
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: how we do things. Remember, Like that was an interesting
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: part of that match. It all adds to the Osprey
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: story for sure. There's definitely a lot there, and I
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: think Forbidden Door will be very interesting with that kind
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: of as a big focus.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Oh how much of this is Will being influenced by
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: two different voices on his shoulders to be more intense
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: because Moxley's kind of trying to get to him in
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: the same way that United Empire might be.
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: Well, so one thing, but when he was telling him,
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: when Callum Newman was telling Spray to hit Hingo Tokagi,
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: Osprey turned away, Allan grabbed him go go on death writer.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: The other thing we have to think about, though, Chris,
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: is if you remember on last week's episode of Dynamite,
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: Samoa Joe called out Will Ospray because he was saying, like,
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: we helped you get to the point where you are,
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: and so there's that aspect too.
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: Where's that whole thing to go?
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: There's so many elements of the story with Osprey that
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: make it so interesting, Like, like you said, yeah, it's
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: one of the best stories because it's not just it's
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: not about oh is he good enough? It's a redemption
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: art that's not a redemption art. Because like it. It's
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: just really interesting forward to say it.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: I want to go to the chat because we do
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: have some comments in there. Peter says, the war dogs
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: made Callum heel all the beaten he got in the past. Conrad,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: is he just a low Conrad? Are you going to
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: if you wouldn't mind answering in the chat? Are you
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: going to be doing your Dynamite review show tomorrow night
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: after the three hour block if you let me know.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Shane is in the chat says what's up, folks, and
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: he also said sorry missed this evening, just woke up
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: from very much needed nap. Well, Loddie dah and Peter said,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Billy Death writer, and then Shane also said, by the way,
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I was only joking with you. Shane said, speaking of
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: SMO Joe, he's heard he's gonna be making a retirement
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: and run sooner than later, which makes some sense, which seriously,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: which makes which? Which makes sense? I mean I think
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: he did announce his that he was going to be
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: retiring suitor later a few months ago, wasn't that right?
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: And then Marcus the God said, this will Osprey angle
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: makes Forbidden Door the most interesting it's ever been. That's
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: not saying much. And uh and Shade said, Kel said,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I will break through that steelcage door. Yeah, yeah, just
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: like RoboCop. Yes, let's move Let's move on, because uh,
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: we do need to talk about.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: You're gonna talk, We're gonna talk.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about dynamite, and uh, I guess the
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: first thing that we need to talk about about dynamite.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: Conrad hasn't answered me yet, but normally after a Dynamite
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Conrad Cushman and Derek Shelton hosts the aw Dynamite Review
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: show over on the Everything Pro Wrestling podcast that is
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: at EPW show on YouTube. It's a lot of fun.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're planning on doing it tomorrow night.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get an answer by the time this podcast
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: is over, but Conrad just kind of peeked in and
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: poked in and said hello, I think. But anyway, if
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: they are doing it tomorrow night, it would be right after,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: like ten minutes after the Dynamite Collision Block goes off
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: the air tomorrow night at eleven o'clock PM Eastern time.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Then then we would have a normal normal next week
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: with the two hour Dynamite. It would be right after
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: that Dynamite. So there you go. It's a lot of fun.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Go ahead and go over there and check them out.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: But let's move on to talking about Dynamite and a
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Dynamite preview, so to speak. Excuse me, and the first
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: one match we're going to talk about is Darby versus
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Kevin Knight forty eight w World Championship. Does anybody see
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Darby Allen losing this title tomorrow? I don't.
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: Hell no, yeah I don't either.
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: Seeing that match is gonna be a banger.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I've said this multiple times. Darby Allen title runs
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: are simple. He wrestles every freaking week, has great matches,
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: pulls off the victories until it comes pay per view
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: time where he loses to a big heel. It's it's predictable,
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: but not in a bad way at all, because the
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: matches are always so damn good.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: You know, And I've lost interest to Darby. Darby is
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: not World Championship material to me, and I just I can't.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: I just don't understand it. I mean, you've got a
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty five pound guy out there being
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: the big man in aw and it's again, like I
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: said last week, it's reminding me way too much of
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: your Cassidy International thing, where he defended forty four times.
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: He had a match every week, and every match I
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: did the same way. Practically, it was unbearably boring to me.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: I would rather see two mid carters than a Darby
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Allen World Championship match every week. Now. If he was
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: doing it once every three weeks or something like that,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: I would have as much of a problem with it.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: But he's doing it even twice a week. I just
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: don't get it. I'm not enjoying it. I'm sorry, I'm not.
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: You definitely make a valid point, Tellison, I do understand
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: where you're coming from. I'm personally enjoying this, not as
• 51:43
  Speaker 7: much as I enjoyed what Orange Cassidy was doing. And
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: I don't mean that as a troll. I just am
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: that big of a fan of Orange Cassidy. I want
• 51:54
  Speaker 7: to see him as AW World Champion at some point.
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: But in terms of this, I love that they're pushing
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: Kevin Knight this much. I've become a huge fan of his.
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: I think he will be AW World champion at some point.
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: Not coming out of this match, though, but these two
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: are gonna put on a really good match Rowlands.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: My concern is you're gonna have Darby beating He's not
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: beating like jobbers. He's beating contenders. And Darby is beating
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: all these contenders, which makes them invalid as contenders to
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: me for until they go and beat other contenders themselves.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: So basically, you know, it's it is what it is.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: I go on to the chat. Uh. Shane says, I'm
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: with Telson on this one. I don't hate Darby anymore,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: but I think he's gonna run out of gas and
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: drop soon. It's clear that Osprey is gonna be the guy.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Connor Dad said, I like Darby's run, but it's not
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: long for this world. Doesn't have to be Conrad again.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Are you doing the Dynamite review show? After the three
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: hour Dynamite tomorrow night? Uh Peter says Darby is a
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: fighting champion. Of course he is. You know. My thing
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: is that you know what? Roland says, I was every
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: bit of a fan of Orange Cassidy when he was
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: the International champion. By the end of his International Championship reign,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't care if I and I think I even
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: said this, I could go without seeing Orange Cassidy in
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: a single match for six months. You and I are different, well,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: and I respect that rollins. It's just that's just the
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: way I feel. I mean, I was just burned out
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: on Orange Cassidy because his run was so freaking unbelievable.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Was just not And when I say unbelievable, that there
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't like, oh, that's unbelievable. Uh, that was it. Conrad
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: did say that it's going to be a Thursday review
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: this week instead of a Wednesday review, So there you go.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: I think this ends up in a clean finish. I
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: think last week's match between Kevin Knight and m JFF
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: set this up. I think we're going to see Kevin
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Knight with a legitimate shot to win it, and I
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: think I'm Jab's going to screw him. I disagree that
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: winning over contenders makes them not contenders. I don't think
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: that's applicable to anybody else. I don't know why that
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: would be applicable if they lose to Derby, and Darby's
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: title run was always entitled or intended as a short
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: term run, and he is not. He is not losing
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: in the way. We don't yet, but I trust my
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: instincts on this. I don't see him going on a
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: forty match winning streak. I think he loses the spelt
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. And he's not winning the same
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: way that Orange Cassidy was winning. He is. He is
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: fighting these people to the death, and he's not necessarily
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: winning in a fluke win. He's winning with multiple finishers
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: to finish off large opponents and more athletic opponents. And
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I think the tell is that he won the title
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: on fluke. He very much came into this title wing
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: and I'm on record as saying I think this was
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: a mistake.
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: I was not.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I don't think this was the right thing to do,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: but I think they'd say that they're doing it the
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: right way. And to your point, Kelson, they have to
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: end it sooner ret later, or it will fall into
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: the tired trope. If this is a short term title
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: reign and he drops it too somebody at double or
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: uping or shortly thereafter, I think that's fine. If Darby's
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: not your your flavor, I think that's okay too. And
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: I understand it's going to be hard for people to
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: enjoy these matches if they're not a fan of Darby
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: or style to begin with. That's totally valid. Well, it's
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: not that anybody who thinks it's going to be like
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: a six month rain is.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not. It's not. Well, here's the thing
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: is that this is what Conrad in the chat asked
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: the question, I'll put it up again. He said, I
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: think something to think about is what is your all
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: in main event? If Darby is still the champion at
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: all in, it's a massive fail, massive fail.
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: Massive.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think we need to look at that. The
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: ratings aren't there to support him as a drafts. He's
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: not drawing, he's not drawing ratings. This is a short
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: term thing because if they're gonna do it, this is
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: the period to do it. And they're doing it, and
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: it's fine, and I think it'll be over and it's
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: not going to be a big issue for folks who
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: don't like to go ahead.
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: Chris, the all main event is JF will offer. But
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: I'm saying JF wins the title back and double or nothing.
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: It's just it makes sense, you know, he Darby, whatever
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: is put on the line is put on the line.
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: He could win, you know, because that's just who he is.
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: And then he goes on and you have the not
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: necessarily hometown, home country hero defeat the douchebag villain who
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: is terrorizing the company again by being championed.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this, Chris. You said that
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: the all inmate event is going to be will Ospury
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: and MGF, which means which means that possibly it's going
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: to be will Osprey or MGF taking the title off
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: of Darby Allen unless it changes twice before then, which
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: is a possibility. But of the two of the two, Chris,
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: who would be your pick to take the title off
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: of Darby Allen?
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: Like I said, winning a double or nothing. I think
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: that's the way the story is going. Like Darby, you know,
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: was able to get one over on him, then he
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: has this title run where he defends week after week
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: after week and MJF comes back at double or nothing
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: and is able to beat him like he's done almost
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: every time they faced off. Like Darby does not have
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: the Darby doesn't really have a great win lost record
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: against His big win came as MJF was done and
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: loaded when the ref had their back turn instead of
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: taking advantage, which Darby then did. So the story just
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: makes sense for MJF to take the title back at
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: double or nothing.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: All right, go ahead, thank you.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah there is I got some I got some bad
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: news for you.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to before you go. Rod Shane
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: just said that MGF picks it up, Osprey snags it
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: at all in. Conrad said love this pod. Thank you, Conrad.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Go ahead, Wrongs, I'm sorry.
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: There is a rumor that aew is gonna be running
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: a pay per view in July at the Bell Center
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: in Montreal. Yeah, called Redemption, And I would imagine they're
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: gonna do that because one god is gonna win the title.
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: And maybe that's where you and that's how you set
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: up Penny Omega versus will ospray for the title in Wembley.
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: You took the words out of my mouth.
• 59:37
  Speaker 7: Rawlin.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: You're welcome, Val, You're welcome.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: All right. Well, look, I want to move on because
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: we still have a couple of things to go over
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: before we had the podcast, and we're kind of running
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: along already. I want to move on to pretty interesting
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: match Wrange Cassidy against Dax Hartwood. It's a double Jeopardy match.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: If Orange Cassidy beats Dax Harwood, the conglomeration gets a
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: future AW World Tag Team title match. However, if Dax
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Hartwood defeats Orange Casside, that means that DA's Hardwood, Cash Wheeler,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: FDR and Tomaso Champa get a shot at the AW
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  Speaker 3: World Trios Championship. So it's kind of a you know,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: it's not kind of a it is a double Jeopardy
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: matcht Yeah, it is. It's a it's a cool little
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: stip on a match that otherwise may not have been
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  Speaker 3: as cool to watch. You know, let's face it, you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: know this is a pretty This adds something to the match,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: and it's not predictable. So what do you guys think?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: What do you think of the stipulation? And do you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: guys have any thoughts on who may win this match?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: That is interested in this match?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: Sorry, I was interested in this match even without the stipulation.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: Orange Cassidy has always been one of my favorites, as
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: I said earlier, and I like Dax Harwood as a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 7: singles wrestler. There was a period of time where I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: was saying he should get a bit of a singles run,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: maybe give him the TNT Championship something like that. But nonetheless,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: I think the stipulation just adds to it. I like
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: what you said, Kelson about making it more unpredictable.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: It feels like it Dax is gonna win just.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: Because they're building to double or nothing and the big
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: tag team match, so it makes more sense for Dax
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: Harwood to win. But if they want Orange to win,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be upset about that either.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Well said Ken. By the way, Rowlins in Chad Shane
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: just said that Rowlins and I are going to be
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: friends forever. I love him, so you keep that romance
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: going strong.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: Okay, I'm gonna go short and sweeten. I'm gonna pick Dak.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: There's really no wrong answer. I think that whoever wins
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: this match, the resulting match is gonna be fun.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and summed it up pretty good. This would be
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: a fun match without the stipulation, but the stipulation just
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: adds makes it a little more unpredictable. I'm gonna say
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: Jax windsay, all right, well.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. Like that.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: They're just doing these more often, these types of STIPs.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: It's been nice on TV to have more significance to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: some of these matches. So I was I was. I'm
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: pleased to see them do this here, and I like
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: they've been doing this more often.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: Jack piggyback off of something.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 10: Let's go okay, So I want Dax to win, and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: I want to see uh f TR and they're gonna
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 10: team up with uh Tomaso or that trio.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: I'd like to see.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 10: Them as a team and see how well they do
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 10: against the colomeration.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, that's a Robins go ahead, buddy.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: So I just want to pick piggyback off of what
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: Chris was saying. If Dax is gonna win this match,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: I don't think it'll be clean. So I agree with
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: you on that one. Just the way FTR have been
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 7: presented as heels, it feels like a clean finish wouldn't
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: make set.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Okay. Well, look, guys, I want to move on to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: talk about yet another match that's happening on the three
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: hour AW Dynamite, And we've actually got two more matches
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: to talk about on the AW Dynamite Collision Block. But
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: this one is also an eliminator match. John Moxley versus
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Muppet Jesus Juice Robinson for the uh chance for Juice
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Robinson to get a actual time shot at the AW
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Continental Championship. This one could go either way to what
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: do you guys think.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: Moxley My heart, My heart says Juice, My head says Moxley.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 6: You could have had really good masses against each other
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: in the past. So I'm looking forward to this one.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: Regardless of the outcome.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: Moxley is going to use Moxley is going to use
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: this match to send a direct message to Will Osprey.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: I think where did we're did Ocatta debut? Mhm Ray?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: W wasn't I thought it was?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: It might have been.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: Was Atlanta?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: You sure?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: I think it was Atlanta?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well if that's the case, never mind.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: I had an idea.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: But well, Shane just had an idea. You said, uh,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: juice rules, said do juice rule as Shane would say.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: But he also said, but I've got money on this
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: possibility being a device to bring back Switchblade.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: That's where I was going. That's why I I hope.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: So that's that's why I asked him. That's for Okata debut.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I think he did viewed in Charleston. I could be wrong,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: but I think he did. But I was thinking, Okay,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: if there's a history of tape user returns to Charleston,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: which they can't Celtic it to save their life in
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: that market. I don't know why you said, but yeah,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: I would. I would not be shocked if postmanchan Against
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: leads to switch Plake. Yeah, the guns versus death Writers.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Charleston is going to be very much Okay, well let's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: move on because we do have a couple more things
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: to talk about before we wrap it up for tonight.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: Kind of there's so many things I want to talk out.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: The women's match tomorrow night. This is a non title match.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: This is basically a grudge match between Hakarushida and Chris Statlander.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: And you know, these are two These are two teams
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: that don't have names. Very rare thing in the aw
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: women's division to have two teams facing each other that
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: don't have names. So I'm going to give I'm interested
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: to hear what you would say for Hakarlshida and Chris
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Statlander what their name should be. I do have a
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: name for Amna Shira, Colin Harley Camra because they're such
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: good friends. And this is the only reason I'm saying
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: this is because they are good friends. I'm going to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: name them bosom Buddies.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: I knew you were going there, so you know, I wasn't.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I had considered boobs of wrath, but I thought that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: was a little crass boy, And I didn't want to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: say that with Valerie here because I'm a respectable old gentleman,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: but I said it anyway. So it's about.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: The case.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: About sixteen minutes ago, I think I hit my sweet
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: spot and I but anyway, does anybody see this is
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: something that I really wanted to ask people because when
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: I'm watching, specifically Karoshida and Chris Statlander, everybody's saying, Karlsheeda
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: is gonna turn so fast. I don't think so. Now.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: I think Chris Stantland, who just stands there just you
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: can practically see this steam coming out of her ears.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: She is just so over the top mad all the time.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I think she's in a haul off and kill kill
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Akaro Sheeta tomorrow night, just literally try to kill her,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: you know. I think that's what it's gonna boil down to.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I think that a car has just found her voice.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: A boy, she found her voice. You know, she's doing fantastic. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: That accent kind of softens up real quick there when
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: she gets heat, it doesn't it?
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it was you that pointed out
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: buried hellwhen not only She'da but all the Japanese women
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: when they're speaking English, they're saying these sweet kind things,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: and then when they revert to Japanese they're vile.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: As I think it's Chris. I think it was Chris.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: But like SHE'DA the last couple of promos she's done,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: especially last week when she was heated and like her
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: accent softened pretty heavy, Menas is still thick. But I
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: think SHE'DA plays up her accent a little more when
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: she needs to, and she was pretty good on the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: mic last week. I thought that that backstage she was
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: some of the best stuff she's done.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: She'da does speak very good English, but she still cannot
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: say the word woman, and I love that you can't
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: say the week because she says I'm gonna be the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Women's World Championship Champion again, and I can't help it.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: I think that is the most adorable thing ever. And
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: I know she's doing that stuff on her There's no
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: way women.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: Both her and Mina play up the accent. Okada does
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: as well. Test I think his English is still pretty basic.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Though so his.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: But yeah, all of them play up the accident a
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: little more. And yeah, I mean Japanese is a tonal language,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: so like when they are fired up, it comes through
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 6: more because you put that emphasis on certain words and everything.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 6: I will always root for Mina Shirakaga, like.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Yes, whatever, you just whatever, you just I'm just gonna
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: tell you. Come on, you use that weird accent, you know, I.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: Use Japanese. Like I said, it is a total language.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, you have said that in the past as well,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: that it is a total.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: Lan But yeah, Meeta shipal all the way.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: Was some buddies. Let's let's let's be adults here. I
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: can't do that. I could never pull that off anyway.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: Let's move on to Saturday night, fair Way to Heaven.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: There is a big match. Didn't didn't and and I
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: apologize because I've had a brain fart right now, But
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: didn't Jungle Jack Perry and Mark Davis have a recent
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: match already? Yes it was Dynasty zero Hour. Yes, yeah,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: that's right, Yeah it was. I knew they had a
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: recent match. I just couldn't place it. It was driving
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: me crazy. Uh was Jack Perry the national champion in
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: that match?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: But you know what, the match was really freaking good,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: and I can understand them play it back.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: So do you think that this is a match where
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: they're just trying to recapture that fire or you know,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: in the past, when we've had rematches like this the
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Challengers won. Do you guys see Mark Davis winning this match?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: I think so, don't think. I don't think it's likely,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: but I wouldn't be stocked if he does. It's one
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: of those where I'm about like sixty five percent shore
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: Jack Perry is gonna win.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: Jack is the national champion, not the TNT champion.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, well, yeah, I agree with that.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Davis needs a built on him.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: I did want to bring up something that Shange has said.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: He said, I'll be right back, Folks, got to take
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: this call. It's TKEO. They keep talking about contract restructuring,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure I'm about to get a sweet raise.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Get it.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: You should have here earlier when we were talking about TKO.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: That's all I can say. I wish you would have
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: hopped onto the pods for that segment. All right, Well
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: back to Jack and Mark Davis anybody else. I think
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: that this title is going to change hands.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: I think it's gonna change.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: I really, I think it's gonna change.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, let me ask you specifically, why do you think
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: it's gonna change? Is there a reason? Is it just
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: a heart or gut feeling, or is there something you know,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: you know other than that.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 8: Well, I I saw the match a Dynasty Live and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: it was great. And I've seen the work that Mark
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: Davis put in with everything that's happened to him and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: being paired up with Jake something I think it.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 11: Was his name, and then in TNA it was yeah, yeah,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 11: and you know with everything with Kyle being injured and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 11: everything that has been put towards him, and he stepped up.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 8: So I think he deserves a title. And the was
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: a trios champion, right he was, Yes, he was, and
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: it was not long. So I don't see why he
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 8: shouldn't be champion again as a reward for all of
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: this hard work.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: Well, it adds to everything with the don Callous family.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: Right, please don't mention down we.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: Don Callous. That's all done.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: I love him.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: Peters in the chat says, I hope Davis wins. Period
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: is getting boring now. Shane in the chat says, it's
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: a new day, baby. Yeah, he missed that part of
• 1:13:43
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