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Calcio Carousel Serie A Matchday 15 & Champions League - Ep. 209 · The Calcio Guys

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H h. One of many Couture Guys derbies happened this weekend here on the
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counch of guys Johnny Adian on Nicholas, and this poem was between half of
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Johnny's teams and one of my teams, one hundred percent of my teams on
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Friday afternoon, You've Anapoli. We talked about it last week with Joe and
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Luca, but that was the preview. We get the recap this week,
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but I got a first ask guys. Hey, you guys doing exhausted.
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Johnny has been on a burner the last couple of days. He's He's on
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fire Johnny in more ways than one. But I'm just happy to be back,
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all three of us together. And again we were supposed to record Monday
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night according to rescheduled tonight, So I'm glad that we're all right here and
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to talk culture. It feels like it's been a while since Ubi Napoli.
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Almost forget what happened, but it was Friday at the Alianzadium. One goal
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Federico Gatti in the fifty first minute off aheader. I believe it was from
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across from across from Cambiaso. Just your typical you've win. Put guys score,
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put guys behind the ball. You know, they didn't have. I
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thought they played well. I thought they had the better chances in the first
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half, and once they scored at the fifty first minute, I think at
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that point, it's like almost game over. You know, with the way
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you've has been playing the season, it's it's almost their blueprint. I think
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the fact that they scored in the fifty first minute and not let's say the
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sixth minute, is a huge advantage advantage because and you know at fifty at
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the fifty first minute, you know, I think they did attack a bit
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more for ten more minutes and they're like, you know what, Okay,
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let's sit back, let's uh, let let Napoli have the ball. They
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had one one shot on target, Napoli with sixty seven percent possession, so
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obviously something worked out. I was. I was very satisfied. It wasn't.
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It wasn't one of those games where you struggled to win one nothing,
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as crazy as it sounds. I think they convincedly won one nothing even though
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they had a thirty three percent possession. I think my favorite staff from this
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game was the fact that Ossie men had forty one touches in zero inside you
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based box, which is pretty crazy. I think about first striker and I
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don't know who had the one shot on target. I guess it was the
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save on was a de Lorenzo. I guess that was the only shot on
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Yeah, I guess that was the only shot on target. Then I was
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I wasn't too sure if it was offside at first, but you look back
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on the repay replay, did look on side? It looked like it would
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have counted. I went in a huge city by Chesney. Yeah, just
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one of those just one of those games Monopoly. I think it's what three
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losses now under Manzi Johnny. Uh, there was you, there was inter
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and reality. If you're calling your reality, yeah yeah, so three,
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I mean you're you're losing me. They're performing well, so three top clubs.
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Like you can't really blame him that much. Oh uh the loss against
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Empee, I don't think so, hold on, I have no one time
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has become a blur for me, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it was
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one nothing it was it was a month ago, November November twelfth, in
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the rain that it was Rudy Garcia. Garcia, Okay, that was his
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last game. That was the last game. Yeah, no, the time
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has become for me. I mean yeah, the losses have come against teams
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that, like the Uve game was winnable, I mean kind of at Skelly,
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I missed a beautiful chance, the Chezny made a great save on the
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Lorenzo happily dominated in the first part of the game. They just couldn't get
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any chances going. They couldn't capitalize on anything. You know, at the
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end of the day, you got to score on your chances, right you
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They did that, napotlely didn't, So that's why you've had a winner.
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So I wouldn't like it's more like Napoley could have made this game of draw.
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They just need to go back and realize and and and really reflect on
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the actions that they took that made this this loss happen. Now, I
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don't think they're gonna be overly hard on themselves, especially that the game after
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that was the Champions League game and they won to zero. I think it
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was just more of a sense it's like, Okay, it's sucks because it's
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one of those gameshere you're gonna look back at it and you're like, oh,
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that could have been a completely different result, and it's gonna sting a
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bit. It's gonna sting a bit if it feels like as if the event
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this got away with the and so they're definitely going to be circling the next
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matchup when they meet up again for the second half of the season, that's
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the return leg. I guess you want to call it for better for lack
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of a better term. This time will be at home, so that would
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be a big difference maker. So that might help out a lot. I
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saw some more job but not this year. I don't know. They've been
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a better on the road. They're they're better, they're a better road team.
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They haven't had a win at home until Tuesday, and prior to that
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was the last win with September twenty seventh, Jesus. So yeah, they
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already had like like under after that lost to empathy, they had four losses
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at home, when last season they only had three in the entire year,
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including including champions Wow. So it's yeah, so it's it's uh, it's
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definitely a mentality issue. I guess you could call it the scudetto hangle.
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But also you know, it doesn't help that you lost key roles, key
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players. We're not gonna be the dead horse because we've gone this through this
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discussion many many times. So yeah, but if we're going back to the
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main point in discussion, was the you a Monopoly game? Uh? Essentially,
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that's what it was. It's the better team won the one the team
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that was able to finish up on their chances, they won the game.
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Monopoly didn't. So uh, Okay, you take what you you take.
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You take the lessons learned from that game and move on to the next.
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Uh and you just you know, like I said, just wait to the
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next meeting and hopefully have a different result. You know. Even on the
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Goaly it was it was I don't remember who was defending got you there?
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If it was, If it was, who was whoever it was there?
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Terrible marketing, I mean it was almost a freehead, was the de Lorenzo?
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I don't think so. I was on the radio in the car,
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so I have a chance, yes or no, I don't remember. I'd
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have to go look back. But whoever it was, I could have sworn
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it was either Rock Money or Rostie Guard or whoever was playing defense. He
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almost started us on the way back home, So I didn't get a chance
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to to see anything. I was the whole way and uh yeah the radio
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silence when event to scored was was was as sound all time low. Yeah,
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but yeah it was from what I remember seeing, it was. I
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mean, Nick, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but it was.
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It was a pretty freeheader. And Gatti has been the man of the
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moment. I think for you event this, you know, he's he's he's
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obviously performed well for for you of it, and I think this is just
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another another one of these games where again he performed well and he's on that
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role of good form. So I think you will obviously take that, you
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know, not we on the other side. I mean, it stings for
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sure because you know they're still there, They're still in the mix for for
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top four, so you know, it's it's a shame. And I think,
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like you said, Johnny, the Cavara Carskellia missed there. You know,
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last year, he probably doesn't miss that this year. It's a different
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year. It's a different it's a different mentality thing, and you know he
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misses that, so it's it's one of those I think. But I think,
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like Johnny said, I think like we can all agree. Even though
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it was ugly, and even though it was not the football, people want
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to watch the better team on the pitch one, So there's not much more.
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I don't think you can say about that. Are you guys bringing Gatti
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to Euro twenty twenty four? I know, completely off topic? H is
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he going in Germany? For me, he would be on on the bubble
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for me on the bubble, I don't want to say. What are the
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center back? Is? Like? Guaranteed the starting too was a Matt Jeney
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You're gonna put as one of the first two, and I feel like,
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job, it's Bustonian who. I think that's that's for me, that that's
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still the that's still the thing. I know people are gonna say it's it's
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a Chaabian who or a Chedabean Bostonia. I don't know. I I kind
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of agree with what Nick says, and he's probably still in the squad even
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though I should be there. I don't gay Gatti would get I think Gati
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makes it on the bench, to be honest with you, even I think
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I think I think I think he's third on the list because he's prone to
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making mistakes too, like despite the goals that he's been scoring, a lot
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of the goals against that happened to you or even like what do you even
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the goals against? Like some misplays in the back end always tend to involve
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him in some ways. So even though he is producing, he's also a
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bit of a liability. So I'm not saying man and I'm yeah, and
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I'm yeah, yeah, what happens in may you know, closer to the
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turn, Yeah, fair, But don't think. I don't think a player
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in matures in that aspect in the span of five six months. I've been
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waiting for Mancini to mature with his attitude since last year or two years ago,
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and it still hasn't happened yet, you know, like because that that's
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that's what that's what holds Mancini back. Honestly, if Mancini wasn't an idiot
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and an asshole and a dumb ass with his action sometimes like I get it
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to have passion, to have viata, to have that fire is foundtastic,
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but you're like, when you're prone to yellow cards or you know, dangerous
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behavior that can lead to red cards, you can't have that. We can't
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have that, and it could cost the game for for Italy and in that
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aspect. So and that's that's my point with gat I'm not Gaddy's not an
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attitude issue nor a character issue. It's more of he's got flaws to his
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game. They all do. Every every player has falls hitter game. It's
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it's not it's not to say that he's it's not to say that he's terrible.
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It's it's something that's a bit. It's also a liability as well.
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And I don't have the greatest comp and I'm really what I'm really saying this
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but as unbiased opinion as possible, Like I don't have that much confidence in
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him, yet I still say, I say he's third on the list.
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I think I have to agree with your point, uh uh that it's probably
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Bostonian a Chatope. That's going to be the starting too, because Chet he's
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even ahead of Gatty, Like like you're right for sure, Like Gatti's actually
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not HVEM that good defensively and I watch him every week. He makes a
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lot of mistakes. He he gets the praise because he scores goals. Yeah,
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uh, he's he's still good. It's just that he could be better.
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That's why for me, he's on the he's on he's on the bubble
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for now. I'll keep him on the bubble for now or December. Uh,
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you know, we're not even into the new year yet. I want
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to see how he continues onto this season. Scalvini was a name that I
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that I that I that I like, that was introduced into the setup by
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Mancini hopeful for spell I teach to maybe give him a look. I know
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he's still young. I think he just turned twenty uh this past week or
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so, I'm not mistaken. Uh so, you know he's obviously still young.
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But his presence, his his his ability. You know, obviously the
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game over the weekend with me when I got you know, you get to
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see him a bit more. But yeah, he's he's he's definitely improved and
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he's been developing pretty quick. So I would like to see him get you
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know, kind of like we're all like up in air, like, oh,
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Rascaldori got called up for Euro twenty twenty. Who rusp? Like,
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I mean, yeah, okay, he did, okay, whatever, he's
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on the bench. He soaked it all in. You know, he made
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that move to Napoli's Now you know, he was a prominent finger last year
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off the bench, and even when he started, he's still on the squad
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now. So uh, maybe one of those types of the situations for for
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Scallvini. But yeah, man, I don't know, it's uh. I
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think we had a different conversation when last season when we're talking about stuff of
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this nature, because you know, we had guys like Cassally or like Romanoi
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who played out of their minds and we're like, okay, they're shoe wins
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now. But it's crazy how things changed so fast, right. So yeah,
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but to answer your question, Nick, for the overall discussion era,
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for me, I'm keeping him ament on the bubble for now, until until
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either he proves me, proves me otherwise, or that he really actually deserves
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deserves this pot because for me, it can't just be the name anymore.
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It really has to become a merit. And we'll see if he merits come
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come June. Yeah, no, that's fair. He's also one of those
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guys that would probably benefit from an injury, Like you know, if there's
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an injury above him, you know, he gets into the squad. If
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not, he has to work his way onto the squad. Uh, the
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team above you, above Juve for nothing, inter against use just a classic
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classic inter beat down. I mean every weekend it feels like Juve is playing
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first, so they get the temporarily first place and I always tweet Sally Palista
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even though I know it's temporary, and then intervals out and they then they
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get their three points. But four goals, four different goal scorers, hat
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Can, DiMarco turram and Lotato. Uh, three goals in five minutes against
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you. I mean there, I feel like there's a Twitter Well, yeahs
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terrible this year. I don't know. I feget where they are in the
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table, but not as not where they they they're normally at. They're in
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seventeenth, They're they're right on the cusp of relegation. They're not good.
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I know there was a debate on Twitter. I think it was for my
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If Enter is the best team in the world, I mean you could make
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you could make the argument are the best team in the world probably not like
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like Matt already Man City and Reality just better than them. They're good,
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They're great. Enter, They're I've always said it, they're even better than
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you. They look they mean the Champions League final for a reason last season.
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But Man City is a powerhouse right now and for me, Man City
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is the best team in the world because when you make the best team in
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the world argument, you're basically just talking about best team in Europe. You
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know. I know, teams in in Saudi Arabia have getting better, just
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splashing all this money at the old guys, but nothing, nothing matches the
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teams in Europe, the top teams at least. No, I agree there.
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I mean best team in the world. I don't know. I guess
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it Pens. But again, you got to give them their you take off
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your bias caps and you know you got to give them their their their praise
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as well. You know, they did make the Champions Final last year.
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They did, you know, go to to toe with like Nick said,
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you know, his best team in the world, Man City. They went
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to toe with them and it was a one nothing blast of a shot by
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rodri that you know, uh, you know, it went straight in.
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So they're there. They've gotten better. Obviously, we've spoken about it before.
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The best team in Italy, that's for sure. We've we've always already
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said that. But yeah, best team in the world. I mean,
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they're probably in the mix if if people want to be uh, people want
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to go out that route, But I don't know. Real is always a
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step above, even though they've they've obviously not been the same real as in
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the past years, but they're always still there. The mad cities of the
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world now seemed to seem to be there, you know. So you know,
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in the past it was the Bayern Munich of the world. Uh,
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you know, the Barcelona is the United So I don't know if that's that
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time has passed, but you know, so there's some still some powerhouses in
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Europe. I think in there probably are somewhere in that mix. But if
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they're top top of that list, I guess it depends what you ask.
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I mean, Man City is not even the best team in the prem right
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now. I'm just kidding. I mean, they're they're they're going to they're
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like their fourth and their fourth league. But obviously it's it's just leagues DA
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needs. They're four points behind Liverpool, but obviously just because Liverpool's having a
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better league campaign in the city. But I mean they're they're in form,
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they're in really good form. Intern that's so in current form. You can
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make that argument but you know like that, like you have to I don't
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know, you have to see them against these teams. I think if they
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can continue to form and reach another Champions League final, then yeah, you
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could say that they're arguably one of the better better teams in the world.
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To say the best, it has to come with the hardware. It has
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to come with the civil warre honestly speaking, like kids, they mine is
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mine city? Only the best just because they won last season, that's the
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only reason why. Well, well, they want the treble last season.
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That's the thing they wanted to play the last season. So let me just
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splash money unfairly and exactly. So then how so then that's that's my question.
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So they're the best how because you know what I mean, like where
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they're the best because they're winning and they're spending all the money or so inter
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back in twenty ten, they were the best team in the world. Yeah,
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I would. I would argue that, I mean won the No they
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wanted then too, That's why I don't know. Yeah, yeah, so
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I guess, and I don't know they didn't really. I mean, they
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brought the good players, don't get me wrong. They brought in some good
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players too, But I don't know. It's a different time, so I
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guess you can't compare. But I don't know. Man City, it bothers
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me the route that they that they go to become the best team in the
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world. But you know what, they finally won the Champions League. They
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won. Uh, you know their trouble, so you to give them their
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pa too. I guess some people sometimes it's like the way compare. It
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is like it's like a hockey goal. You know, it's like crash the
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net. Who cares as long as it goes in, it goes in.
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That's what you care about the end of the day. You know, you
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think, but you think Brett Hall cares about the way he scored the overtime
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winner to win the cup for them for the Stars back into the back in
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ninety nine it was a nine nine or two two thousand. It was two
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thousand, none, nine ninety nine when the Stars won. I think he
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cares how he scored. No, it was the goal that got into the
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Stanley Cup. So uh, at the end of the day, that's that's
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what that's some matters, it's who cares how much you spent As long as
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you reach your end goal of winning the Champions League trophy. There you go,
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and sometimes it's all takes. It just sikes that first win to break
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the ice and you know, and make it a bit more consistent, or
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make it happen a bit more often, you know. So yeah, now
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it's it's it's really hard to be repeat champions in any league for or any
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competition. Yeah, I agree, but so that's another thing that remains to
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be seen. But I think it's fair to say that it's City even though
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right now they're not doing the best in the prem But like if we're looking
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at it right now, like the way Inter's been playing in all competitions,
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it's you have to include them in the mix. You have to we give
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them an honorable mention. Real Real Madrid had a very rough start too,
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So it's it's like like right now, like I wouldn't like it's still Reality
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at the end of the day, it's Real Madrid, but they had a
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very rough start too, so they haven't been consistent in form. Inter has
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been consistent in form. That's why. So with that a squad, with
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their B squad too, you could That's what I'm saying, you could give
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them that bit of leeway and say that, Okay, maybe they're the best
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team in the world right now, mm hmm, what they can put on
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the pitch. I wouldn't say the best. It's more like it's there as
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a unit. They're a great unit. They the players know each other's roles
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very well. They mentioned you're talking, you're talking inter Inter Inter. Yeah,
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no, like the starting eleven compared between the two teams, it's like
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it's it's nine. And they would be terrible to say because it's not true,
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but there is there is you see a bit of a of a gap.
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There is a bit of a gap. But when Inter has in their
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favors, just the players just know each other better. They just I don't
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know what it is. They just they they just function well as a unit.
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And Zaggi just knows how to get the most of each player in each
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position. It's he makes guys like Micketarian and channelgu they look like the world
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beaters, you know, And when when when Darby when yeah, yeah,
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like when when Darmian has been a journeyman most of his career. You've seen
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it. Uh, you know, Channel Logu was just not it at Elon,
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you know, Mickey was was on his like like his last life at
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Roma when he was after he left Man United and somehow, you know,
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like he's reach uvenated an interior, you know that direction. Yeah, it's
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like what mind you like some of their some of their hits that they've gone,
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you know, like getting Turaum was a was a great pick up.
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Martinez is just on fire this year, and then you have Arnanovich coming off
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the bench. It's it's like that's It's like how last year we were a
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presynopoly for the fact that you have a Scaliasumen and you had Losano on the
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right, and then off the bench you had guys like Politano, you had
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Raspadori, and you had Simone ready to go. You know, like it's
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like you have an A squad and a B squad of Fords available at any
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time, and kind of it's kind of working that way for in there too.
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So it's like off the bench they have better options. And I think
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we're even talking about this at Trichado's when you want to go watch the game
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with Luca and Joe Rui and the gang. You know, it's like it's
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like like what who was it was a drill that brought it up. It's
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like, what what what you didn't like about that matchup specifically is what inter
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can bring up off the bench compared to what they can break off the bench
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and quality and pretty much in every position. Yeah, so well their B
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squad, their B squad was what down three old champions they came back to
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tie the game three three three? Sorry, So yeah, it shows you
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something there like it or not there? You know, the proof is in
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the pudding. So yeah, no, listen there, but they are again
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to Johnny's point, also, they are hot. They are in form right
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now. Again, it still remains to be seen how long this form,
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how long this hot streak does last? Does it last till the end of
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the season. Is that possible? Again, there's so many variables. But
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currently, yeah, they're they're they're up there. They're they're playing well.
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Bought into the Anzige system, you know, replaced players. We said,
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we've said time and time again on the show, guys like it's it's no
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new news here, it's uh, it's uh, it's it's kind of just
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what it's been for these for this past a little bit now. So yeah,
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they're up there. But again to to go back to this game and
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specifically against what I mean, like we said earlier, Nick said it to
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you know who, the dances have just been terrible. Like you know,
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if they didn't win for nothing, I think we would have been scratching our
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heads. You know that there was that type of game. But you know,
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Lataro a couple of right now if I think he's up to fourteen goals
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from mistaken, so he's just taking taking that by storm. And yeah,
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they just like what we should just said, you know, quality uh starters
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starting the games. They have quality coming off the bench, so like it
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or not intro there, So that's what it is. Uh. Some other
23:34
games, uh from around the city. Verona tied Lazio, which was pretty
23:41
crazy because oh crazy, I mean lots of they are intent. They're not
23:45
having the best city at campaign, but they're having really good champions in campaign.
23:48
And it was as any who opened the scoring the former uh Verona man
23:55
and then and then Thomas Ari fake Tierryri scored for Verona in the seventieth minute,
24:02
So I know a lot of Loto fans were disappointed with that one.
24:04
They sit in tent in the city. I mean, I think at this
24:07
point the only thing to hold on to his hope for a long Champions League
24:11
campaign was another game that finished one one for Frozen nor to Reno zero zero.
24:19
So nothing special in those games. And then I don't know if you
24:22
saw this, guys, but Cality beats us on the Monday night or on
24:26
Monday night football, Monday Night Culture in Sandana. Uh. Two goals in
24:30
stoppage time from Kality from LaPadula and Pavolletti. So so two full heroes already
24:37
with with Kality two to one over Special. And I don't know if yeah,
24:44
yeah, especially Pavaletti. I don't know if you saw, but got
24:48
a leg in the in the nose, I don't know, City. I
24:52
posted a video on on Instagram saying he broke his nose and then he came
24:56
back in the game with no bandages and no mask, right things. So
25:00
I don't know if you just scored hurt his nose like a little bruise or
25:03
something. But I find it hard to believe someone with a broken nose.
25:07
He was bleeding at but I find it hard to believe that some of the
25:11
bros would come back with no like no protection whatsoever, not even a single
25:15
bandage and uh to Soldi did get a red card for that, which was
25:21
very weird because it wasn't even like I kicked or whatever. It was just
25:26
like Lopadula kind of went down for the header and then Soldi's lake came up
25:30
and hit him. But whatever, good story for Cality. But I think
25:33
they're towards the bottom of the standings if I remember they do play they do
25:37
play Napoli on the weekend, so a chap game for Napoli, but nonetheless
25:42
game Napoli should win. Any guys have any any thoughts on these on these
25:48
games? Well, the Pavoti I mean the Cality game, I mean it's
25:53
it's it's Pavlo goal once once again. I mean he's scored a bike to
25:59
you know. It wasn't it like a semi vault send me by the ball?
26:02
Yeah, it was a crazy goal too. And again it just leave
26:04
it to a guy like of his nature to score for Coality late. I
26:10
remember when we fucking started this show. I mean we were talking about Papoetti
26:12
goals, you know, Forrecality, and you know he's still there, he's
26:17
still producing, He's still uh that guy in Sardania, so he is him
26:22
as they say, so, yeah, I know, I mean, good
26:26
for him, good for Raetti. I always like to see uh you know
26:30
the clips and uh you know the post that post of of Vanetti frecality.
26:37
He came back. He's he's trying to, you know, save them from
26:41
relegation. Are they in last? I think they are? They still in
26:45
last? I think they might still be in last, but I know Celariy
26:47
Antennas, Oh they moved up. They're in sixteenth down, So that's a
26:49
that's a pretty big win for them, klity, okay, perfect, So
26:52
they're not son last. Okay, so yeah, it gives them a bit
26:59
of breathing room for now. Again, the seasons still long. We're only
27:02
fifteen games in going into match day sixteen, uh this coming weekend. So
27:07
yeah, it's it's it's it's one of those big, you know, emotional
27:11
wins and character wins by by club locality. But again, if you want
27:15
to flip the squitch flip, the switch has to be way better than that.
27:18
If they want to be taking a bit more seriously by you know guys,
27:25
I guess other people that produce city of content pundits whatever, so be
27:30
it. But yeah, good for good for Cally good for any aera.
27:37
I'll be honest with you, I haven't had a chance to see any of
27:38
the other games, but it has been too fucking busy for me. Sod's
27:41
okay my teams. Honestly, I don't even like I don't really watch these
27:47
games either. I just I see. I see the highlights that City I
27:49
post on Instagram, I see whatever is on Twitter. Like I'll give I'll
27:53
give a shout out to City Instagram because they're actually doing a good job this
27:56
season on like posting highlights, so I do get to see this stuff,
28:02
like I remember, I remember it was like the Verdona It wasn't this game,
28:06
but was it last weekend or actually before that? I remember the Gonege
28:10
goal that crazy bicycle kicked the gone sir, And yeah for for for Verdona,
28:15
he scored a crazy goal. They're all over it. So yeah,
28:18
I agree with you there. So yeah, both accounts. The English account's
28:22
been doing well too. I've been seeing a bit of a rise with them
28:25
too, so it's it's it's good. Yeah, yeah, they do post
28:29
their stuff and and I did mention Monza did beat General just Battle of the
28:37
mid just Pyramid off in this Manza versus general game. But Jenny, I
28:42
didn't want to talk to you about these two results because Bolognia beat Clearni and
28:47
Towna to On to temporarily move into top four, and then Roma tied Farantina
28:52
one one. I think they're so. I think they're tied now for forty
28:57
twenty five points each. And they play each other this weekend. Bologna.
29:03
I mean, I know we've we talked about it, but like fifteen games
29:07
into the season, playing this well is it's not just a hot streak.
29:11
Sure they might not finish top four at the end of season, but this
29:14
is a legitimately good team and it's amazing to see Joshua Curzy, amazing young
29:21
talent. They've they you know, shout out to Joey Saputo two because that
29:26
whole management, Supputo Duvallo and everyone. They've built a good young team.
29:30
These aren't just like random players. This is a team that's been put together
29:34
the past few years and it's it's it's cool to see the Saputo logo on
29:38
these jerseys too, kind of gives like Montreal Impact nineties vibes. But but
29:45
yeah, they so they play each other this weekend. I know for Rome,
29:48
I think Debala is injured and does someone else have a did they get
29:53
a red card this weekend? Yeah? Well sorry, both got red cards.
29:59
That's it. So no tough game right for for Roma? No points,
30:04
no point, no points. I'm so used to saying to use two
30:10
k's two points took her ask but at this point two wings, two reds,
30:15
one point for Roma. Uh no, honestly, I have to get
30:22
full credit to Thiago Mota, Bologna and stuff. Great work, welcome.
30:27
People were joking around of it is too. Is is U two seven to
30:33
thing even though it's eleven players, but like a mentality of that type of
30:34
thing. But I was talking. I was talking about it with my stepdad,
30:38
who's uh, you know, coaches a lot of competitive soccer here at
30:41
Montreal, and uh, he says that his formation is actually very he sees
30:48
how it works. Uh, basically, it's a very midfield heavy formation and
30:52
uh it offers a lot of flexibility, which at the end of the day,
30:56
you know, it feels it. People can generalize it as some kind
31:00
of three five too, but it's not. It doesn't work in a nature
31:03
of what a three five two actually is. But that's that's that's going to
31:08
get like, I don't want to get done the rabbit hole of that discussion.
31:11
Uh, it's been working for them. He's been getting effectiveness from his
31:17
players the beginning results. Players have been stepping up when needed to. Uh,
31:22
they're hitting the right notes, which is good, which is very nice
31:23
for that to see. Uh, Joey SAPPOUTI is doing as just like to
31:30
joke around, but now Joey Saputo has been doing, Uh, I guess
31:37
good work over there, you can. I guess he decided to turn Montreal
31:40
into the the pizza factory of the team of just producing young talented and selling
31:45
them and and just trying to focus on Bologna. Which was funny because I
31:48
think we were at we're on the radio at Concordia. You know, there
31:52
was a time where Saputo to make an appearance of Bogna, Yeah, where
31:57
it was the other way around, and the fans are super were pissed at
32:00
him because he was just neglecting Bologna. They felt, you know, and
32:02
they they they met few years and booze and stuff, and you know,
32:07
now they've just you know, been hitting the right notes. So it's it's
32:13
crazy. How like, I think it's been four years since we've been at
32:15
Concordia. Yeah, about four years that we've been five five No, I
32:20
think it was like you graduated twenty nineteen. No, because I think it's
32:22
a yeah, yeah we started, we started five years ago. Yeah,
32:27
but I'm talking about like what we ended at. Oh yeah, yeah,
32:30
because I remember remember doing this episode when we're at Concordia because it was just
32:34
so funny to hear what supotos uh reception at Bologna. But anyways, uh
32:40
so it's good he's training things around over there, they're getting results. It's
32:44
if they can make it into Europa League. That's very big for the club.
32:47
If they if they making it to champions like, that's fantastic. They
32:51
won't survive, but that's fantastic, you know, well learned for them.
32:53
But uh yeah, I definitely think Europa League is totally feasible for them.
33:00
Now to the other point, Roma Fidentina, I felt like Mourinho had a
33:07
good grasp of the game, but when Deballa went down, you know,
33:10
he says he saw the tone change a bit of the game, you know,
33:14
the because it went from a complete like like the game shifted, the
33:21
momentum of the game shifted a Zelewski gets the red. Uh, so it
33:25
completely impedes the team. So obviously when I was playing the man down and
33:29
Lukaku makes a very boneheaded decision with a very dangerous slight tackle with studs up.
33:36
But it's funny because I forgot who it was, but somebody else slid
33:38
with their studs up and they didn't even get a even get a card for
33:42
it, so like I didn't in varge to tell them to take a look
33:45
at it. But anyways, that's go. I'm not here to complain about
33:47
the refs. I'm here to, you know, complain about Roma's play and
33:51
some boneheaded decision by by some of the players there. At the end of
33:53
the day, they held down the fort and matched the game one one.
33:57
Because I think a manager like Italiano can punish a team like Roma in a
34:02
situation like that, and almost did. Almost did Lukaco. I'm happy to
34:08
hear that his his suspension is only one game instead of three, because they
34:14
were initially looking at three games, but they managed he managed to appeal it
34:16
down to one, so that's a good sign. Uh. He's because he's
34:22
been I'm happy because he's been a consistent score. But basically, uh,
34:25
you know, with the balagon and Lukaku out and Abraham injured, it's like,
34:30
okay, well you know, uh Meloti it is. I'm just I'm
34:37
just trying to think. It's like, who do you put with him?
34:38
You put Alaari up front with him, that's probably what's gonna be Ali and
34:42
uh Bloti. So it's funny because if you like no, but it's like
34:49
if you were to say, has been really good, he's been reliable.
34:58
Were about the Iranian kid? Is the Iranian? What anational? Like?
35:00
Oh? Uh our you're talking about the other guy? That was his name?
35:08
He scored the first time. A couple just making up players was Iraqi,
35:17
Iraqi, he's Iranian. I forget you should know that's mood. That's
35:23
what it was. Yeah, Iranian kid. There you I mixed up our
35:30
moon. Uh. I don't know, maybe you uh? I mean yeah,
35:38
you could use him too. They have options. It's just not not
35:44
the greatest, but it means to be seeing the BALLA being out for I
35:47
think about three weeks is what sucks huge. Apparently he's missing six games apparently,
35:52
which is horrible and the games that he's missing are even bigger. Who
35:57
is he missing? I'm pretty sure you've was coming up. I think it's
36:00
like December twenty third, he's missing games. They played the w de l
36:07
Janine. You know they play not, don't they there? Yeah, I
36:10
mean I think that's coming up. Not this weekend, the weekend after hold
36:15
On. Yeah, of course we always do. I think misses. Think
36:22
I think I saw Yeah, no, yeah, he misses. You veased
36:27
the thirtieth nick The twenty third is the Derby de La Jenny and ah okay,
36:31
okay, I got my saturdays mixed up. Oh two big bold guys.
36:36
You might miss both, so we'll see. That's a that's a big
36:38
ball for Roma, especially that they're playing the Well, the real league is
36:42
already locked, so they're fine. It's not a big deal. Yeah,
36:45
it's no. The game that I'm really worried about is January third. Fuck.
36:52
Uh yeah, it doesn't mind. Said, it doesn't matter. It's
37:00
always the trophy. I mean, Carimon is it in city other season,
37:06
so would be a problem if they're playing that doesn't matter. But yeah,
37:12
so you mean they held On got that one one draw. But it's uh,
37:16
it keeps out race interesting. If you ask me many were they were
37:19
good. They were calling towards the finish on in that game. Yeah,
37:23
it makes that Tina, I think Atlanta is not mixed. It makes that
37:30
race even more interesting with that result one one and Roma's playing Monopoly Juve Atlanta
37:37
and yeah, yeah, that's like up until mid January. Like I think
37:44
some of the games hold on. It goes not from what I saw.
37:45
I just saw it. It was Napoly Tomorrow Sheriff. Then it's uh a
37:52
league game. I forget, it's not an important team. Then it's not
37:54
ply Juve uh as the game. And then after that it's so a lot
38:04
of big games, especially without Debau. And I don't I don't mean,
38:07
I don't want to be that guy. But Bala there there, Deballaba is
38:13
not there like it was, Like it's very clear that the Deballa you know,
38:17
maybe dependent a bit, I don't know, but to the classic classic
38:29
this is this is classic having a fantastic season, then gets hurt for two
38:34
three weeks right around Christmas time. It's like nem Or always gets hurt at
38:37
the drink carnival, Fru birthday or birthday sisters it's always as sister's birthday,
38:46
you know what they do. But it's always Assistan's birthday. Can he just
38:51
gets up and walks away. You had enough of this he brought uh but
38:58
but Adriano left this got here, he left this on purpose. The last
39:06
one Uh three to two Atlanta for MELANEA crazy game, a lot of back
39:13
and forth goal scoring. Uh goal from Lukeman in the thirty eighth and fifty
39:17
fifth minute as comes up the screen, and then drew Uh drew well he
39:27
tied it up, and then luke Ban scored and then uh Jovic at the
39:30
end near the end scored and then crazy back you'll goal from Muriel ninety fifth
39:36
minute. I mean, must you must have been fuming and then and then
39:40
today you get the win, but it doesn't really count against Newcastle. Well
39:45
it counts in a way because he made Europa League. But to get the
39:49
biscoto between PSG and dor Mint to send them through to the Champions League.
39:55
I mean, all these emotions, Adiano, the floor is yours, my
39:59
man. How are you feeling now? Listen, It's it's what it is,
40:04
guys, It's it's pay your pass like you know. For I'll start.
40:07
I guess we'll start with with the with the City game. I mean,
40:10
for me currently, that's kind of where the mindset is, like,
40:14
I mean, it was always going to be tough for the Champions League.
40:16
I'll put into that after. But you know, the competition, and we've
40:22
been saying it right at the top is pretty pretty strong, pretty heavy,
40:25
and it's pretty close. So seeing the results of of you've In and Avinta
40:31
and then the result that you that you pull in that game not even getting
40:36
a point, it separates yourself a bit from from the top. I mean,
40:38
it's still not totally out of reach, but it doesn't do it yourself
40:43
any favors. Right, So we're what seven points I think behind You've in,
40:46
I think nine behind inter right, So it's it's it's getting a bit
40:50
more of a you know, a bit further reach. So but again against
40:53
against Atalanta, one of those games, I mean, you know, we
40:59
almost went even earlier to Lada and you know he skyed that one. Uh
41:04
so we're lucky about that. He obviously provides the assists on the on the
41:08
second Lukeman goal, and again Lukeman, I don't know, we haven't heard
41:13
his name too much. But again, you know, I guess he decided
41:15
to wake up with it and uh and put two past. But the biggest
41:20
thing for us, guys, it's no, it's no secret. Defensively we
41:22
haven't been the same the same team. You know in last season seasons passed
41:27
the school that two year we are a bit more solid defensively against you know,
41:32
again, it doesn't help that we've had twenty six injuries on the year,
41:36
eighteen of them being muscular injuries. Yet our our guy, head of,
41:39
head of uh, head of you know, the medical it star as
41:45
a job. So scratch ahead. Okay, well we lost the Drano.
41:52
Oh he's back. No, we're here, We're back, We're here.
41:54
He lost him like Milan lost Atlanta. Wow, proofs in the porting guys
42:01
three, So what do you what do you want to do? But no,
42:06
I listen. It was it was one of those games where if you
42:09
know, it was a good game, like it went back and forth.
42:12
It wasn't the game that you wanted to have on Muon sick. But again
42:15
again to my point earlier, you know, defensively we haven't been the same.
42:20
Manya has been great too, He's let have been more goals in.
42:23
You know, we've had a makeshift defense sometimes, you know, we have
42:27
tailor downams point center back, like we're down to We're not desperate that we
42:30
don't have anybody else to play. We're putting our best left back in in
42:35
in central defense. So and he's mom Albini. So yeah, it's just
42:40
one again, one of those things. I mean, it was good to
42:44
see the fight back. Would have taken the point, wouldn't have been pleased
42:46
from it, but would have taken the point. And you know, Yesperdini's
42:51
subs at the end there, you know, made the difference. He brought
42:53
on both Milan Chruk and Uh and Moriel, and Midan Chruk fed Moriel and
42:59
Morio back, heielded Uh and scored the goal. It didn't help that half
43:05
the half the defense in that box was ball watching, and what Moriell walked
43:07
through. I think Ali coming in was was terrible. He played terrible when
43:12
he came on. Uh, he totally just watched. He watched Moriell just
43:17
run past him, Uh, not even run jog past him. Uh to
43:22
get that to get that opportuity. And Moriell has been a special player Atlanta.
43:27
I know he has not the same morieal as we've seen in the years
43:30
past, but uh, you know he's he's still capable of scoring. He
43:35
did so Uh it was what it was. It's it just puts extra pressure
43:39
on you know, on on management, on Poli, on decision making.
43:45
I mean, I don't know. I see every day, you see rumors
43:49
who they're going to bring in January to to to push forward again. Got
43:52
we gotta get healthy, Like, well, we're not at full you know,
43:55
full strength. You know. Finally today we saw guys like uh,
44:00
you know, guys like Okafour come back. You know, you know,
44:05
we're we're still missing Chow, We're still missing We're still missing this guy,
44:09
that guy. So I mean, again, I don't want to make an
44:12
excuses because I think the team still has good pieces, you know Leau,
44:15
we finally saw him back today as well. So offensively we've been struggling,
44:22
but I think defensively has been the bigger thing that we've been that we've been
44:25
really lacking it. We're leaking way too many goals. I think we're are
44:29
like we're already double the amount we've conceded from last season at this point or
44:34
something. On those lines. So it's it's you know, you can't you
44:38
can't go forward if you're leaking all these types of goals. So it was
44:42
tough. Whatever it is, what it is. You know, we we
44:46
got to capitalize on on on these games in the league, and you know,
44:51
so far, I mean, we haven't really been doing so against you
44:53
know, direct competition at the top, right. Uh. You know,
44:57
you you lose the Dead be against the Ted, you lose a game like
45:00
this, uh to Atlanta that is not right up your tail, but they're
45:06
there. You know, you tie upoly uh in in a game where you've
45:12
probably should have taken points. Right. So it's these games that are adding
45:15
up that you're you're not capitalizing on and and you know down the stretch come
45:17
May is is you'll will look back and say, oh fuck, you know
45:21
if you picked up points here there against these teams that were around us,
45:24
you know, things could have been different. So uh yeah, it's it's
45:29
a shame. Uh. It wasn't the five nil beatdown that we took a
45:32
couple of seasons ago that really turned everything for me on after that, but
45:36
it's still something that stings. You know, fast fast forward to today.
45:42
You know, one of those games where it was always gonna be tough in
45:45
the Champions League after after the results that you know we we had. You
45:51
know, you start off the campaign with two nil nol draws against competition that
45:53
in my opinion, you should have beaten, uh in games where I think
45:57
you were the better team and should have taken more points in just one.
46:00
That's on them, that's on them. Uh. You know, the the
46:07
three was a three nil against PSG. Okay, fine, you you bite,
46:12
you eat it, you bite that bullet. You go back and you
46:14
beat them to one. But then again you go you puy Dortman again and
46:17
you lose three to one. You put your dig yourself as a bigger hole.
46:22
So and then you put the final match day not in your hands,
46:27
you put it in another you know, in other team's hands. That usually
46:30
doesn't work out, usually doesn't work out. I would have hoped for it
46:32
to work out, because again we were one step away from that happening.
46:38
We did do our business. Even though it wasn't it wasn't, it was
46:43
still nerve racking because we are you know, we only got you know,
46:45
to go ahead goal late by by substitute, but to make it to one.
46:52
But you know you can't you start yourselves in the foot. How many
46:57
times in this competition this year you're putting in a different difficult group. I
47:00
think, you know, one of the harder groups. I mean, I
47:04
don't know all the groups off the top of my head. But some people
47:07
say group of deb some people say not whatever. Whatever it was, it
47:09
was, uh, you know, we had quality I think in the group.
47:13
So it was tough. But again we didn't do ourselves any favors put
47:16
our put ourselves still in contention. Last final match day needed uh needed uh
47:23
what was it? A Dortmund win at home against PHG to to send us
47:29
to with a win of our own. We did our bargain. Like I
47:32
said, you can't put your faith in other teams. So I was pleased,
47:38
I'm sorry, I mean I was pleased, but not satisfied with the
47:42
result. Today. It was yeah, you know, you won, came
47:45
back. Maybe didn't have the grays first half. POI kind of went for
47:51
it, which I was surprised, but he kind of went for it,
47:52
putting all the attackers on and it paid off. But obviously on side fighting.
48:00
You know, we're not going through in the in the Champions League were
48:01
the only we're the only Italian team not to do so, not to say
48:06
that you know the other teams, the other teams, Actually no, I
48:07
can't say nothing. The other teams did play well, all second place though,
48:10
which I thought maybe one of them would have gone in first place in
48:13
the group. But again we're the only team that didn't make it past.
48:16
It is where it is. We go join, we go join uh you
48:22
know, the Romans of the world and Atlanta's in Europa and see what we
48:25
can do there. Some some some fans, I know, we're saying,
48:30
you know, it's either we we win and Dorman wins that we go through
48:34
to the to the knockout rounds in Champions or we don't lose it all,
48:37
we don't win at all, and we're just totally out of Europe. I
48:39
don't know what people would have preferred. I know there's still some money to
48:44
be made in Europe, even though you know, I'll be able to be
48:46
uh be Europa. But yeah, man, I'm I'm curious to see how
48:53
they take how serious they take Europa League. I'm expecting somewhat serious. Well,
48:59
we'll see to turn it's a it's a tournament that you know, his
49:00
team hasn't won. So yeah, I don't know. It's just uh,
49:06
please be not satisfied. I guess is the is the moral of this of
49:12
this uh this discussion here, But Milon has to be better. I think
49:15
they I think they will. Uh you know, I think I think they
49:20
they have, they have what it takes. I think it's just it's again
49:22
mentally, uh you know, like Johnny said, wop, But I think
49:25
is not all the way there. You know, there's so many ups and
49:29
downs with is he staying? Is he on the hot seat? Is he
49:32
now gonna stay? You know, is he gone? Whatever? It's now
49:37
we got the news ebra back in back in town, you know, in
49:42
in summer up in nupper management there, whatever his role is. So it's
49:46
gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting to see how this goes into the
49:51
winter winter market. Do they do anything, Do they splash any cash?
49:54
Can they splash any cash? It remains to be seen. But yeah,
50:00
I don't know. Just uh, I think if you would have called me
50:04
more, I think after the after the Atlanta game, I think will be
50:07
a bit more pissed and maybe a bit more reaction out of me tonight,
50:09
but uh yeah, I don't know, It's just it's unfortunate. But again
50:15
we we turn the page and we go forward and for now, guys are
50:19
tough for us to be Uh, we have to lock that down. So
50:22
if we don't lock that down, that's when it becomes a bit more of
50:23
a worry. But I still think they have what it takes to do so
50:28
and can they still fight for the Scudettos the scudetto It is over, depends
50:32
what you ask. Still a ways to go, but that that that ways
50:38
to go. The season is still along the line is gonna, it's gonna.
50:42
It's only gonna get shorter as as these weeks go by, So it
50:45
can that excuse can only be a use so so much going forward, but
50:50
as a whole, this team has to get healthy. This team has to
50:52
get better, uh in all phases and uh yeah, we'll take it from
50:59
there. Indri, Like you said, it is interesting that all three Italian
51:05
teams inter Annapoli A lots so that did make it through are in second and
51:12
there's some really good teams. There are some really good teams in uh first
51:19
yeah, barsa Man, City Doorman, Athletical associate Dad, Real Madrid Arsenal
51:27
and Byron. So obviously, you know, there's obviously sort of conditions,
51:30
you know, like Napoli can get Real Madrid inter can't get real associated and
51:36
and lots you can't get athletical. But yeah, that's tough. Yeah,
51:40
Jenny, do you have any expectations for Napoly the sixteen? I mean they're
51:46
in the round the sixteen, like, sorry, quarterfinals, I meant to
51:50
say, I apologize. I yeah, that's fair. Less. I'm doing
51:54
less and prep here at the same time as we do this podcast for the
51:58
listeners back home, I'm doing some uh lesson prep for my placement and it's
52:02
going to be right now. This lesson is about uh indigenous representation in film
52:07
and media. So yeah, for for a grade eleven class. So uh
52:12
yeah, they're gonna you're gonna make a culture reference. I thought that's what
52:15
you're bringing it up. Well, then, the culture references that we have
52:19
is that when the Western era came around, was made by a lot of
52:21
Italian directors and to use a lot of Italians to represent the natives, which
52:24
obviously is a very bad thing, but apparently we we had we have people
52:30
that resemble indigenous people, which I mean that more or less kind of Back
52:37
then you could have got away with it. Nowadays you could not definitely get
52:40
away with it. It's yeah, it's bad, so I get away with
52:44
much of these days, guys. It's it's one of those worlds right now
52:47
we live in. Yeah, uh but not yeah yeah, quarters quarters,
52:55
quarters are possible, I depends only. Yeah. I don't expect anything past
53:00
quarters this year for them. Uh So, there is some positive news coming
53:06
out the Fabicio Romano kind of like reference that apparently l c Men is willing
53:10
to extend his contract by another year come break. Yeah, and they're going
53:16
to increase the uh uh the release clause to one hundred and thirty million from
53:22
one hundred and twenty million euros, so, which was pretty good because I
53:27
mean the way it is, okay, it's either you lose us. It's
53:29
either you know, like us even stays, or you get them for like
53:32
one twenty one thirty. So it's it's it's a win win fornopoly in a
53:37
way. But the extential would be very nice for the team. Like besides
53:40
the Kman at Scalia, like like they're not in toxic extending because the Alentis
53:45
doesn't see a point. He's like he signed till twenty twenty five, Like
53:47
what are we doing here? You know, like we don't have to sorry
53:51
for five years. I think it was something I was like, we don't
53:52
have to do anything about that. But positives on that front, team seems
53:57
to be, you know a little better under Mazzari. Obviously you're not going
54:01
to beat the world beaters, but uh the top four is still very feasible
54:06
for the team, and I think right now that's that's their focus. That's
54:08
the goal. Uh maybe do well the Kopa, who knows, But I
54:15
don't see them in Champions League like as obviously you know you want to do
54:21
well, and it's Champions League especially, it gets to the point where like
54:23
right now it's just still single elimination. But you know it's like you says
54:29
for the home and away leg. You know, it's like you know anything's
54:31
possible, but you still you still, you still have that belief. It's
54:36
like, okay, well if they if they get good matchups or they get
54:38
lucky, you never no. I mean Roma made it to semi finals in
54:42
Europa and Champions League and made it to a final in Europa League. You
54:45
know, sometimes because they just had favorable matchups or they were just the better
54:49
team on that day. So it's possible. But I say, realistically speaking,
54:54
nothing past like around it, like if they would like past quarters.
54:58
If they make it past quarters, then it's fantastic. I see it as
55:02
an absolute win. Uh. And tomorrow Roma it's a lot. If you're
55:07
in Farentina playing in the Europa League Conference League, they're all through in in
55:14
those competitions. So we'll have seven. We'll have three in the Champions League,
55:16
three in Europa League and one in the Conference League come February then because
55:24
Milan is going down to Europe. Up. Yeah, we got seven,
55:29
so we got we had started. Sorry yeah four in foreign Champions League.
55:34
Sorry yeah yeah for the uh for the Europe for the Europe League, teams
55:40
are are they they have chances again first place in those groups or the Quarantina
55:46
does Fiorentina does in conference Okay, they play I think I think mistaken.
55:53
Yeah, if Fiorentina plays for in Caiados tomorrow, the winner uh finishes first
55:59
of it. If it's tied, it's uh, it goes to fire and
56:02
Tina and I have to check for the Europa League, and I think you're
56:06
You're right. I think Atlanta's in first in their eleven I think I think
56:10
whoever is behind in sports and I think it is they beat them. So
56:14
I didn't even realize Liverpool is in Europa League. That's how much paid attention
56:16
paid to the Europa League. Yeah, it's a lot to they're in.
56:21
Uh, they're in first right now. Three points up on Sporting. Yeah,
56:24
three points up on Sporting. So I don't know if that means that.
56:27
I don't know what the if they're a tiebreaker, if if they have
56:30
it or not. But they played the team at the bottom, Raco something,
56:36
and then I think they play Slavia Prague tomorrow. No, they play
56:43
Sheriff. They play Sheriff, so they're down two points so Slavia Prague would
56:47
have to lose and then Remo would have to win, so they do it.
56:52
They still do have a chance. But yeah, yeah, Europa League,
56:58
it only gets good at like the knockout state, you know, send
57:00
teams down from the Champions League, you know, make the games interesting like
57:06
this stuff is not the most fun to watch sometimes, but that's pretty much
57:12
it, guys. Uh, this weekend city the one really big matches.
57:17
Definitely lots of inter on Sunday so forts Lazio. We do have the we
57:24
do have the Milan Derby, uh in a way, Milan Manza, Lombardi,
57:31
Lombardi, the friendship Derby, the burl of scoring in Derby. Yeah.
57:37
And and Bologna Roma as we've as we talked about before. For me,
57:44
that that's that's gonna be a fantastic game, I think, especially like
57:49
at home is it in Rome, Bologna, if Bologna Wednesdays and they're further
57:59
up into the top for like, like it's gonna be a party, it's
58:01
gonna be they're gonna be eating all kinds of tortolini uh in Bologna. But
58:07
but yeah, and then the magic finishes with a very exciting Atlanta cellar Anytana
58:12
on Monday. But that's pretty much it, guys. Any last thoughts,
58:17
I think, uh, I think before we wrap it up, I think,
58:22
uh, you know we say uh, I do as they say.
58:27
I don't even know how to pronounce it to Giorgio Kilini right right football,
58:31
right news that I don't know if it was gonna if it was shocking for
58:36
people or not, or if people were aware of it or not, I
58:40
don't know, but I think we uh you know, he was one of
58:45
the last of a dying breed of of you know, those no nonsense,
58:50
tough defenders. And you speak to a lot of top players and especially this
58:53
generation, and uh, you know, they put him as one of the
58:59
you know, the defenders that they least like to face. Again, no
59:01
nonsense, uh you know, uh, just one of the greater defenders of
59:08
this of this generation, of this modern slash old school type of defender he
59:14
was. He was both a bit so legendary moments I think obviously most recently
59:20
with with the euro win was as as captain I think was obviously huge and
59:24
to win something international I think for him was one of the only things that
59:29
you know, okay, you know it wasn't a World Cup, but it
59:30
was one of the things that you probably missing from the resume, you know,
59:35
from well besides the champions leagues. But uh, you know, he
59:39
domestically he won everything, right, so h so it was good to see
59:45
him, you know, lose. I saw you know, losing the what
59:49
was it the MS Cup final against Columbus, I think it was was it
59:55
Columbus? I think it was maybe it was a bit of uh, you
1:00:00
know, not the way maybe you would have wanted to go out, But
1:00:02
hey, I think he did enough for culture especially Uh he already asked most
1:00:08
cup Yeah exactly, he already has it with plenty of other trophies in the
1:00:13
cabinet. So and you know, he did a lot for for culture,
1:00:16
especially first Italians. You know. Uh, it was was great. And
1:00:22
I think again we were speaking about this bit off air, and I know
1:00:24
we were supposed to record Monday, postponed to tonight. We did get a
1:00:30
question on Instagram. I think it was from again, I don't want to
1:00:34
butcher you guys, but I think it was angry Italian pod on Instagram guys
1:00:38
on crucif class if we got that wrong, but shout out to you guys
1:00:42
for the question. It was something along the lines if I remember, you
1:00:45
know, seeing that you know at the time that the question was was was
1:00:50
asked, you know, seeing that Qane retired, favorite moment of him as
1:00:54
a player for for for us. So Nick, I don't know, I
1:00:59
think you saw more on week the week basis. If you have any anything
1:01:01
you want to add to k as a as a player, especially well if
1:01:05
I'm going to say favorite moment, I'll go last because I'll have a few
1:01:09
moments in mind, but I'll let you guys see it first, So I
1:01:14
don't. Okay, Sonny go and I'll go. And I mean, the
1:01:17
only positive moments we can talk about Killeenie is the you know what he's done
1:01:22
for the national team. Thank you for the euro Cup. I can't calm.
1:01:29
We've remained calm, you know, to come what was the other interview?
1:01:39
It is the nature of the Yeah, you know, I you know
1:01:46
what, I'll miss moments like that in interviews and stuff. You did have
1:01:50
a bit of a charismatic character, so that's very very candid. Yeah,
1:01:53
so uh that I will miss. I will misses Ves, you know,
1:02:00
all the sadness that he brought to me. But yeah, hell of a
1:02:02
career, a lot of championships, a lot of civil aware in his cabinet.
1:02:06
Uh. You know, you got to give full credit to what it's
1:02:09
due. And you know, like great job killing you like enjoy your retirement.
1:02:15
Uh, enjoy you know it's it's baller. It's baller, that's for
1:02:19
sure. It's weallered. Yeah, no, I have to agree. I
1:02:22
mean in recency bias obviously, like every just said, captaining the gay squad
1:02:29
for for Euro twenty twenty twenty one was was was huge, That tactical foul
1:02:36
in the final against Socco will obviously remain in a lot of Italian's minds,
1:02:40
you know, from from the generation going forward. Yeah man again true professional
1:02:51
was Uh, we're just you know, a cornerstone for for obviously that juvent
1:02:54
his team, uh for the Italian national team. I even go you know,
1:02:59
even going back to you know, forget you're twenty twenty, Euro twenty
1:03:01
twenty, I mean even Euro twenty sixteen when uh was it the goal against
1:03:07
Spain that that that that melee in the box and he's the one who gets
1:03:13
the goal. Obviously it King Kong celebration. I mean I remember that being
1:03:15
a being a big moment at the time. So yeah, no, just
1:03:22
just again, anytime you watched Killini in your in your lifetime, especially if
1:03:28
you were watching these past this this generation, if you're part of the generation,
1:03:31
you're watching Killeni like we can't weak out or just you know, internationally
1:03:35
or financially whatever it be. And you didn't see him with a bandage on
1:03:38
his head. I mean you weren't watching quilling. Like this guy was like
1:03:43
bread and butter, peanut butter and jelly, you know, nutala and corneto.
1:03:49
It was Killeeni and a bandage wrapped around his head. That they go
1:03:53
hand in hand. So all those moments of of Ki excuse me with bondage
1:04:00
on his head. Uh, he would just always remain in my in my
1:04:04
head. But again just you know, true professional. The interviews especially,
1:04:11
I remember when a story passed away. You know, he brought his name
1:04:15
into interviews a lot and really kept him true to his close to his heart.
1:04:18
So yeah, no, just again a professional. You know he had
1:04:28
he had many, many, many battles with with with top players from when
1:04:32
he from being a younger, younger defender to an older defender. He was
1:04:36
pretty much top class with with them. Also, yeah, we we thank
1:04:42
you Ki uh for for a great, great career in Italy and for the
1:04:45
national team because again there's not gonna there's not. I don't know if there's
1:04:50
any more Italian defenders like you know, like a like a Killeni that,
1:04:58
like I said, last of a dying breed of those no nonsense, you
1:05:00
know, tough, gritty defenders going for every tackle. No nonsense, We're
1:05:08
gonna miss that for sure. So yeah, but yeah, thank you for
1:05:13
killing me, for everything you've done. Uh for me. I'm gonna go
1:05:17
with a Uve moment. I'm gonna go back to twenty fifteen Champions League semifinal
1:05:23
against Real Madrid bandage moment. He and he goes up against Ronaldo's future teammate
1:05:29
and he's all bloodied with the bandage and he's just staring them down. I
1:05:31
think there's an iconic photo of him staring down thinks Ronaldo and Marcelo and Van
1:05:40
it was Vran, Yeah, it was Ran and and he was fantastic over
1:05:45
those two legs. That was. That was a Juve that went to a
1:05:48
Champions League final a bit unexpectedly. Uh, you know, even though they
1:05:53
were you know, at that point is what three year they were on their
1:05:57
fourth scudetto in a row. Uh, they just had didn't hadn't really got
1:06:00
it done in Europe up until that point. With that Juve, and they
1:06:06
they beat Real Madrid. I think the first lake, if I remember correct
1:06:11
correctly, was two to one Juve and then they tied one one in Madrid.
1:06:16
And he was just a monster, just one of those games, you
1:06:19
know, the old BBC him Manucci, Barzai Lei and and Buffon you know
1:06:26
if you if you want to add the BBBBBBBBC uh but and and one of
1:06:35
those games where you just enjoyed watching defending. Just a defensive master class.
1:06:41
Like Marinho said, they they they could teach a course at university on defending.
1:06:45
Even you think back the game against Tottenham in twenty eighteen in those yellow
1:06:49
jerseys where he makes a he makes he makes a stop right at the end
1:06:54
and he celebrates as if it's a goal. Like man, I know most
1:06:59
people they want soccer for the goals, but if you're a true fan,
1:07:02
like you really appreciate the way he defended. He was just so tough,
1:07:05
just so tough and like and the whole bandage stuff like it became almost his
1:07:12
personality. Now. Whenever I see a player, where are those bandages?
1:07:15
It just makes me think of Killeeni. But yeah, we're definitely gonna miss
1:07:19
him. I don't think it was a shock or anything. You know.
1:07:23
I wonder what his next step is. He is he is a doctor,
1:07:26
he is a I don't know. I actually don't think he has his PG
1:07:29
or anything. And I know, I think it's an honorary PhD. Yeah,
1:07:32
yeah, yeah, that tune. Also in Italy, I think when
1:07:34
even when they get like their master bachelors or masters, they they you can
1:07:41
say like doctorate or something. I don't hold me on that, but for
1:07:45
memes, he is doctor Kleini. Yeah, I honestly I know you guys
1:07:54
know he he. He was in Montreal in twenty eighteen during the World Cup
1:07:59
because it missed out, so him and decided to come to Montreal and a
1:08:01
trip with their families. And I remember really hoping to run into him at
1:08:05
that time. I was. I was going downtown every day. Uh,
1:08:09
I remember it was Grand pre weekend. I remember spending a lot of time
1:08:12
downtown. But I never ran into him. I knew people that did see
1:08:15
him. One guy saw him in a in a walk in a washroom of
1:08:19
a restaurant. He was at pissing, standing next to chilling. You're Georgia
1:08:25
Achillen. You know He's like, oh, yes, I am, but
1:08:30
legendary legend but yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just funny thing about But
1:08:38
yeah, thank you, thank you Georgia. Right now, the last Italy
1:08:41
captain too it to lift a trophy hopefully the next one will be I don't
1:08:44
know whoever the captain is that year of twenty twenty four, but that'll do
1:08:47
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