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Football at Four: Eagles Approach vs. Commanders?; Explaining Latest Issue on Offense · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is football.
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  Speaker 2: That's board.
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  Speaker 3: We go back to last week and I realized that
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  Speaker 3: people probably think that that the competition wasn't as good
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  Speaker 3: when they played the Commanders, but they ran a lot
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  Speaker 3: of their basic stuff. Their O line was blowing people
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  Speaker 3: off the ball, and their run game looked really good.
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  Speaker 3: In this game, they ran a lot of their basic
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  Speaker 3: stuff and the on line was getting beat and missing blocks.
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  Speaker 3: For me, that's a hard thing, you know, I know
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  Speaker 3: the way fans think, Oh, you know, and you know too,
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  Speaker 3: you get it. I don't know what people wanted them
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  Speaker 3: to be doing. You know, did they want them to just,
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  Speaker 3: you know, start doing flea flickers and gimmick plays? You know,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's not who they are and that's not how
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna win.
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  Speaker 1: filling in for Mike Gill and it is time for
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  Speaker 1: all for Adam Kaplan joins us there and kind of
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  Speaker 1: going off of what Greg Cosell said on Your Guys Show, Adam,
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  Speaker 1: looking at last week's win over the Bills, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't really do too many things differently than what
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  Speaker 1: they did in the Commander's game as well as the
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  Speaker 1: Raiders game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Nick, I would say that, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: first half though, the offense save the two plays that
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  Speaker 2: started with Jeff and I talked about this after on
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  Speaker 2: our pregame or postgame show. Rather you know the two
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  Speaker 2: Jeff called him give up plays. I just called him
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  Speaker 2: place where what are you doing? I mean, you can
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  Speaker 2: call them give up plays, but it was just not
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  Speaker 2: being aggressive. Because other than that, they were very aggressive
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  Speaker 2: with twenty pass a Teff for hurts in the first half,
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  Speaker 2: which is surprising being that was raining, but there was
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  Speaker 2: really not any win to speak up talking to people
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  Speaker 2: that were there, and second after the win picked up.
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  Speaker 2: But I know what Greg's saying, because, yes, Nick, they
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  Speaker 2: run a lot of basic concepts, but I know what
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  Speaker 2: the fans want. The fans want more than hit routes.
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  Speaker 2: They want more than the basic stuff. But you could
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  Speaker 2: scream and yell all you want and get mad at Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I you know, people get mad at us today. We're
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  Speaker 2: not grading their scheme, folks. That's not what we're doing now.
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  Speaker 2: In the off season, we're going to We're gonna And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Greg has every once in a while,
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  Speaker 2: if you listen every week, and I know a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people watch inside of Tepele listen, they know sometimes and
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  Speaker 2: Greg just says, you know what, I gotta go a
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  Speaker 2: little stronger on this. But you can't change your scheme
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  Speaker 2: in season, Nick, just to finish this off. It's not
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen. You can't do it. Nope, it's never been done.
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  Speaker 2: You change it in the off season, and it's got
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  Speaker 2: to be changed. I talked about this like six weeks
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  Speaker 2: and six weeks ago on every show. Anyone who asking
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  Speaker 2: about the Eagles proms and offense, the bad scheme. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to has told me this, And yet this
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  Speaker 2: is what they're running, guys, this is it. But yet
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  Speaker 2: Kurtz has actually played a lot better than people think lately.
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  Speaker 4: So Adam in the Buffalo game, specifically in the second half,
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  Speaker 4: was that them just kind of being content with going
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  Speaker 4: three and out and giving the ball back to Buffalo
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  Speaker 4: playing field position in the rain, protecting their lead. Or
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  Speaker 4: was it them kind of reverting back to their old
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  Speaker 4: ways of what we saw in the Denver game, the
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  Speaker 4: Dallas game and the second half of those those games
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  Speaker 4: with the three and outs and that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Just so you know, no coach, ever, unless they want
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  Speaker 2: it gets fired, would ever be content with going free
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  Speaker 2: and out. They never talked like that, just so you know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I guess, I guess going back to their philosophy
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  Speaker 4: of being risk averse, playing smart, costly turnovers, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, even worse, way more conservative. I I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: you watch our post game show, that's what I talked about.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like a prevent offense. I think that's where
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  Speaker 2: you're going. And I would agree with you that it
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  Speaker 2: was just not the right way to play. I don't
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  Speaker 2: And here now, I brought this up and said, they
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  Speaker 2: like my comment on YouTube. I actually I was looking
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  Speaker 2: over the comments today. They're they're they're pretty pretty strong today.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of funny people are pistol on the offense.
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  Speaker 2: But it was the offensive show. Our defense shows tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: with Greg. But guys, what you should understand is when
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  Speaker 2: Nick was asked, this is actually a really interesting discussion,
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  Speaker 2: and I really hope the UH tomorrow when they get Siriana,
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  Speaker 2: they follow up because Nick was asked about the second
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  Speaker 2: half and he said he had a help Patula, He's
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  Speaker 2: got to do a better job of helping them. But
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  Speaker 2: then he said a minute later, oh, well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I got to coach. The team's kind of tough. Well, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's your job as a non play calling head coach.
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  Speaker 2: You're CEO head coach. You got to be able to
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  Speaker 2: help your offensive coordinator. It's your scheme. That's a bad excuse. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you're being honest about it, but what are you doing here?
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  Speaker 2: And I also suggested that nixtion of high or senior
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  Speaker 2: offensive assistant. That was a that was a mistake. I
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  Speaker 2: actually Jeff and I talked, It's funny how things happen.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about this in twenty twenty one. We were
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  Speaker 2: told it was not going to happen though we suggested it.
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  Speaker 2: We're told by a team source, no, he's not doing it.
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  Speaker 2: That was a mistake, And now you're really seeing it
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  Speaker 2: because he's got a rookie offensive coordinator that is struggling. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's been better since the bye week. But this was
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  Speaker 2: an abomination in the second half. But we got to
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  Speaker 2: call it like it is. It was bad. You could
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  Speaker 2: talk about being risk averse, but this was this was
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  Speaker 2: way worse. All you had to do is what But
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  Speaker 2: why couldn't they spread the field and still go five
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  Speaker 2: eligible they do? You know what they're they're a success
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  Speaker 2: rate when they go spread empty is ridiculous. You can
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  Speaker 2: do that, There's nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking with Adam Kaplan football at four and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I saw the postgame show. You you criticized
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  Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni to say the least Adam, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: coming off of that second half, the way they struggled,
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  Speaker 1: how should the Eagles approach this week's game against the Commanders? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: what do you make of the whole health versus home
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  Speaker 1: field kind of discussion?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the look. That's that that'll be settled today internally,
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  Speaker 2: and then they have to present it to the coaches,
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  Speaker 2: who sues me to the players tomorrow when they come
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  Speaker 2: back in for their walkthrough. So I'd be very surprised
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  Speaker 2: if the starters play. I know that, I know, I
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  Speaker 2: know some fans want to eat starters to start, and
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  Speaker 2: but even if they do, I I would be stunned
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  Speaker 2: if it's for very long. The way that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of teams do it is now, I haven't looked into
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  Speaker 2: this yet. I'll probably look into it later this week.
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  Speaker 2: Some teams, because players have intentos, they'll play the starters
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  Speaker 2: for a quarter and then get them out. So if
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  Speaker 2: some of the egal starters on both sides of the
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  Speaker 2: football have some incentives, they may allow them to play.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a slippery slope. Just so you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: extremely rare that you would sit your offensive lineman and
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  Speaker 2: let your your starting quarterback play. It's I think it's
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  Speaker 2: happened twice in my career. I can check it into
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  Speaker 2: the stuff. It just doesn't happen really. So if if
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna sit Jordan Mylotta, you can almost bet that
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  Speaker 2: Perts one play number one, number two. Yes, they can
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  Speaker 2: get the second seed. And it's not as complicated as
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  Speaker 2: we thought two weeks ago. The scenarios are very simple.
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  Speaker 2: They win Chicago Lows as they get it now. I
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  Speaker 2: do believe this very strongly. I know Dang Campbell the
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  Speaker 2: way he thinks talking to people, work with him. Him
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  Speaker 2: and Ben Johnson had a very interesting relationship. I expect
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  Speaker 2: the Lions, I know they're beat up on defense, to
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  Speaker 2: come out and play hard. And they did this to
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  Speaker 2: the Packers four years ago when they knocked them out
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  Speaker 2: of the playoffs, when they're when the lines were out
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  Speaker 2: of the playoffs, So I expect them to play hard now.
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  Speaker 2: The question now will be how they view the risk
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  Speaker 2: versus the reward. That it's very simple now. The other
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  Speaker 2: thing is because the games are going on at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, and I've seen this happen before, their quality
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  Speaker 2: control people will watch the scoreboard and that if Eagles
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  Speaker 2: surprise me and keep the starters in until they see
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  Speaker 2: what's going on the other game, you can do that.
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  Speaker 2: Some teams do that. So to answer your question, there
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of scenarios on how to handle this.
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  Speaker 2: I personally talking to coaches over the years, they generally
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  Speaker 2: look at health first rather than seating, except when there's
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  Speaker 2: a number one seed available to get a buy. There
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  Speaker 2: is no second by remember since since they changed it
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  Speaker 2: five years ago, So again they're gonna look at health.
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  Speaker 2: That's the big discussion. We know Jurgens is not himself.
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  Speaker 2: He is not having a good year to spit out
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  Speaker 2: in a pro bowler. We know they atlanted Dickerson's not
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  Speaker 2: having the cut except a year. We know why coming
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  Speaker 2: back from multiple procedures during mailattas not have the great year.
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  Speaker 2: Guys Lane Johnson with a lift front spraying guy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and this is one of the reasons why I'd be
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  Speaker 2: surprised if they start everybody.
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  Speaker 4: And isn't this just how Sirianni likes to operate Adam
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  Speaker 4: in that they don't play their guys in the preseason.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't seem to affect them in the in the
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  Speaker 4: season opener, they win every time with Sirianni. And do
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  Speaker 4: you think Nick learned his lesson two years ago in
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  Speaker 4: where aj played in Week eighteen?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he.
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  Speaker 4: Got hurt and then he was out for Tampa. Did
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  Speaker 4: Sirihanna kind of learn his lesson that way?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I got another one for you. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you remember this. And this this really bothered me.
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  Speaker 2: I crushed the Ford on our show. So I was
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  Speaker 2: at that night practice at the Link in August and
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  Speaker 2: he for some dumbery well I know why I did.
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  Speaker 2: It was really dumb. He didn't like the way that
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  Speaker 2: the offense was going late in the practice at the link,
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  Speaker 2: so he put their starting offensive line in. That's when
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  Speaker 2: Dickerson stuffed the meniscus injury. Thankfully he could he had
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  Speaker 2: the trim and obviously if he had the the the repair,
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  Speaker 2: he'd be out for several months. That was a dumb mistake.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that. You don't jeopardize when you don't
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  Speaker 2: need to. And this is going to be a healthy
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  Speaker 2: discussion with Jeffrey Lourie. I'm sure he'll be involved, Sirianni,
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  Speaker 2: Howie Rosemond obviously, and the coordinators and the medical staff.
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  Speaker 2: Two guys we need to mention that that they're they're
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  Speaker 2: involved in this. They have to be involved in this.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's a really interesting discussion, uh what they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have here and they and with no buy next week,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta go unhealthy and we know how beat up
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  Speaker 2: this team is. Let's be honest about it.
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  Speaker 1: Adam, I want to ask you about some of the
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  Speaker 1: players that may have incentives to play in this final
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  Speaker 1: week as well. How much of a factor is that
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  Speaker 1: going to be in who they choose to sit and
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  Speaker 1: who they choose not to sit heading into this game
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  Speaker 1: against the Commanders, And how do teams typically approach that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so very only in my career. This is
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  Speaker 2: when teams I'm not gonna I'm not gonna includ Jeffy
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  Speaker 2: Lorin he's not cheap. But some owners, let's say a
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  Speaker 2: guy was forty yards away from earning five hundred grand,
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  Speaker 2: they'd make the player play and they would risk injury
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  Speaker 2: because they were not gonna give them the five hundred grand.
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  Speaker 2: Huh so, But the Eagles are typically not like that.
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  Speaker 2: From in recent years, I'm told they've taken players when
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty close. They just decided to get you
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  Speaker 2: know what, why are we going to risk this, Let's
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  Speaker 2: just take care of the player. What makes Jeffrey Lorie
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  Speaker 2: arguably the NFL's best owner because he treats the players
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  Speaker 2: great and treats the employees really well. So I would
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  Speaker 2: expect them, if it's reasonable, to pay the players with
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  Speaker 2: normal incentives. I just it's not the way. The Eagles
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  Speaker 2: are generally very good talking agents over the years about it,
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  Speaker 2: specifically Howie and obviously Jeffrey's got okay. They're generally very
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  Speaker 2: good about it. So unless they're changing their mind, I'd
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  Speaker 2: be surprised if they didn't take care of it now.
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  Speaker 2: Most teams, by the way, are way better about this
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  Speaker 2: than they were. Like I remember several agents getting very
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  Speaker 2: upset at clubs when they wouldn't take care of their players.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you making my guy playing with the game
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  Speaker 2: doesn't mean anything? Now, Look, if it's five million bucks
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  Speaker 2: three million dollars, that's a different story. But less than
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  Speaker 2: a million, I mean, these owners can afford it.
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  Speaker 4: Adam real quick. If the playoffs started today, Philly would
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  Speaker 4: be hosting LA. Does it concern you at all that
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  Speaker 4: McVeigh said last night that he plans to play his
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  Speaker 4: guys in week eighteen and the Eagles would give their
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  Speaker 4: guys a week off. I mean, and number two, do
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  Speaker 4: you even buy that from McVeigh?
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  Speaker 2: Well, all right, so McVeigh is the only coach that
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  Speaker 2: I know of it doesn't play his starters in the preseason.
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  Speaker 2: He never has, and he rests typically for when they
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  Speaker 2: have when they're able to for playoff purposes. Now, he
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  Speaker 2: didn't say that they're going to play the entire game though,
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  Speaker 2: you know and say that, And that's why I coach
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  Speaker 2: on him very close to He didn't a guy that
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  Speaker 2: it's a playoff team that is not getting a buye
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  Speaker 2: He said the discussion was going to be today and
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  Speaker 2: his vote, if he had one, would be for the
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  Speaker 2: rest that the players to rest. Now, this team, I
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  Speaker 2: have not looked at whether they it even matters to them,
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  Speaker 2: like see, this is the hard thing.
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  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they Eagles could get a second home game. But man,
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  Speaker 2: you just said it perfectly. AJ Brown. You saw what
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  Speaker 2: it looks like without AJ Brown, really bad. They can't
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  Speaker 2: he look sminny is sminny and Goddard said eleven touchdowns,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not winning without AJ Brown. I'm sorry, that's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking with Adam Kaplan Football for powered by the
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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds Podcast. Adam, we just want to wish
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  Speaker 1: you a happy new year. Thank you for all the
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  Speaker 1: insight you give us here on the Sports Bash. You'll
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  Speaker 1: be talking to Mike Gill in twenty twenty six again
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  Speaker 1: instead of me, but we very much appreciate you jumping
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  Speaker 1: on and uh talking some birds with us and providing
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  Speaker 1: great insight and hope you have a great new year.
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  Speaker 2: Same to you, guys. Dried This is a good segment
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  Speaker 2: today and yeah, people drive safely for the new year.
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  Speaker 2: You'll get there, see you, guys.