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LNC Has a Live Interactive Component · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Nur John Collider the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the geeky things happening in the world
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  Speaker 1: around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Casten, and with me, as always is the
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  Speaker 1: splendiferous Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: With this, mate, I mean, I am.
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  Speaker 1: We have our video on today. Yeah, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: do something cool.
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  Speaker 2: When have I ever done anything cool?
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  Speaker 1: Like every Day of your Wife?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're too kind? No, no, no, nothing cool. We
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  Speaker 2: were just talking before we hit record about the fact
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  Speaker 2: that we're going into Memorial Day weekend and that I
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  Speaker 2: had foolishly booked a whole bunch of vacation travel with
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  Speaker 2: my family, and that it means I will probably have
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  Speaker 2: to wait a while before I can see Furiosa, which
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  Speaker 2: I am very anxious to actually go see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see that. I've got like a
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  Speaker 1: list of movies that have been like I want to
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  Speaker 1: see this in the theater, and I've seen very few
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  Speaker 1: of them. So American Fiction and then The Ministry of
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  Speaker 1: Ungentlemanly Warfare I wanted to see in the theater, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's still playing at some AMC's, but we
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  Speaker 1: are not getting paid to say that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, but.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. It's not in it like
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  Speaker 1: I thought it would stick around longer, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of theater. Theaters turn over quickly right now,
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  Speaker 1: and Fall Guy I still want to see. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's one other one and now Furiosa.
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  Speaker 2: So it was just last night when someone was telling
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  Speaker 2: me that I really needed to see Fall Guide. They like,
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  Speaker 2: have you seen Fall Guide? And I said, no, Like,
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  Speaker 2: it just wasn't high on my list. It looks fun,
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  Speaker 2: no shade against it, but like, there wasn't something about
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  Speaker 2: that that was drawing me to it more than like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a very entertaining film and maybe I
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  Speaker 2: would really love it. Everyone talks about how it's a
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  Speaker 2: love letter to stunt coordinators and stunt performers, which is
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  Speaker 2: awesome because they certainly deserve adulation and recognition. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I thought the trailers looked fine,
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  Speaker 2: but nothing about that film grab me. To be fair, though,
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  Speaker 2: the action genre is the hardest one to get me
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  Speaker 2: excited about it. If it's just like an action film,
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  Speaker 2: if it's like sci fi action like Furiosa, I'm more
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  Speaker 2: often on board. But I've already seen the greatest action
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  Speaker 2: film that was ever made, so everything else is like
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  Speaker 2: die Hard. Diehard is the greatest action film that was
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  Speaker 2: ever made, not a Christmas movie. We've had this discussion,
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  Speaker 2: We had this, we did a whole episode about it.
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  Speaker 2: It has, it has you know what, I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to make the joke because I'm making the joke in
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  Speaker 2: my third seconds or less cool, So I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: save it till that.
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  Speaker 1: I will say The fall Guy is based off of
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  Speaker 1: like the old eighties TV series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it came out, maybe it even started
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  Speaker 2: in the late seventies. I remember that show being on
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  Speaker 2: when I was a kid, but I don't think I
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  Speaker 2: ever if I ever watched an episode, I have no
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  Speaker 2: memory of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean same here. But I do like stunt work,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to do stunt work for a while.
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  Speaker 1: I still kind of do, like I want to stay
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe I won't be able to do high
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  Speaker 1: falls or as many like roles or whatever, but I
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  Speaker 1: still like stunt typework, you know, fighting and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: But it didn't really grab me until the trailers. Like
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  Speaker 1: the concept didn't grab me, but the trailers, the chemistry
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  Speaker 1: between Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt, it just seems so
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  Speaker 1: fun and it reminds me of the same sort of
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  Speaker 1: like vibe I got from Day After Tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was really amused. I've been on a
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  Speaker 2: kind of furio Press junket devouring a course recently because
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  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, whenever a film comes out, the stars
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  Speaker 2: are sent to go through the dog and pony show
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  Speaker 2: of appearing on all the different outlets and answering the
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  Speaker 2: same like twelve questions over and over again. And one
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  Speaker 2: thing that I thought was interesting, which I did get
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  Speaker 2: to hear this story multiple times, is that Anya Taylor
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  Speaker 2: Joy did not know how to drive, nor did she
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  Speaker 2: have a license when she took on the job of Furiosa.
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  Speaker 2: And she said the very first thing she learned to
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  Speaker 2: do as a driver was a like a drift move
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  Speaker 2: where you're you're gunning the accelerator, you hit the emergency
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  Speaker 2: handbrake and you turn the wheel as hard as he
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  Speaker 2: can and do a one to eighty. And I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 2: that's a For me, it was starting the car and
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  Speaker 2: putting it into reverse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's also a mean thing to do to
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  Speaker 1: somebody on like the first time behind a wheel is
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  Speaker 1: just let them pull out front ways.
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  Speaker 2: She still doesn't have her license, or at least she
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  Speaker 2: didn't when she was doing the press junket, like, she
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  Speaker 2: still has not actually taken her driving test, but it's
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  Speaker 2: funny to know that she was, you know, helming and
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  Speaker 2: a film that heavily involves car stunts in particular. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's also I watched the lad Bible TV interview between
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  Speaker 2: her and Chris Hemsworth's the one where they are asking
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  Speaker 2: questions of the two people and they have to choose
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  Speaker 2: whether they agree or disagree with the statement they have
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  Speaker 2: like a glass of water and the table is divided
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  Speaker 2: up between strongly disagree on one side and strongly agree
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  Speaker 2: on the opposite side, and you put the glass wherever
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  Speaker 2: you feel. And I could not pay attention to the
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  Speaker 2: questions because they were in their wide shot. I was
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  Speaker 2: just marveling at how tall Anya Taylor joyce stiletto heels were.
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  Speaker 2: They were like insane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wore really tall heels for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in years at a family wedding last week?
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  Speaker 2: Was it last week? God? So you were approximately eight
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  Speaker 2: feet tall.
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  Speaker 1: I was approximately eight feet tall, which you know, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to outshine the bride. I certainly didn't. The
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  Speaker 1: bride was stunning, amazingly stunning, my cousin in law. But
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  Speaker 1: but like my feet were tore up, like the pandemic
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  Speaker 1: has made my feet a whimp. So I guess maybe
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  Speaker 1: she's lucky to have stayed in the film industry where
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  Speaker 1: she has to wear shoes regularly, because.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't imagine walking around in those They just
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  Speaker 2: they looked they looked like they were a punishment to me.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I mean there is a chance that she wore
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  Speaker 1: like flats or sneakers to the studio and put on
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  Speaker 1: heels when she got there.
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  Speaker 2: Possible, Yeah, entirely. I mean it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 2: imagine Anya Taylor Joy as being at all casual, only
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  Speaker 2: because she has become so known for being very very
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  Speaker 2: much on like the cutting edge of fashion, Like that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of been her brand. Like you ever see her anything,
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  Speaker 2: She's always wearing something very fashionable and unusual, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure that's not her twenty four to seven, but she
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  Speaker 2: has cultivated that image to the point where it's hard
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  Speaker 2: for me to imagine her and anything like dressed down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get that fun times. Yeah, I hope
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  Speaker 1: to see it too. Well, if you don't get to
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  Speaker 1: see it and I don't get to see it because
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  Speaker 1: my husband's iffy on it, then maybe we can go
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  Speaker 1: see it together.
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  Speaker 2: That would be awesome. I would totally go see the
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  Speaker 2: movie with you. Yeah, Well, touch base when I get
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  Speaker 2: back in town. So typically before we get started on
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  Speaker 2: thirty seconds or less, we about what we have watched.
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  Speaker 2: But Ariel, you've been traveling a lot and doing lots
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  Speaker 2: of extracurricular activities, so I imagine you've had very little
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  Speaker 2: time to devote to watching geeky stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. When I got home last night from my extracurricular
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  Speaker 1: stuff last night two nights ago, I watched the latest
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  Speaker 1: Smarty Pants on dropout. And then other than that, I
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  Speaker 1: did watch the first half of Bridgerton, which dropped. And
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  Speaker 1: I will say it's not my favorite, Like I expected
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  Speaker 1: it to be my favorite season and it's not quite
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  Speaker 1: hitting me as amazing as I wanted it to.
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  Speaker 2: That's a bummer. Are you still enjoying it at least?
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  Speaker 1: I am. I am still enjoying it. And some of
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  Speaker 1: the costumes are amazing and some of the costumes, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what are they doing? Like some of the costumes are
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  Speaker 1: obviously like avant garde or you know, like the kind
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  Speaker 1: of fashion that you don't off of the runway.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, you would never see this anywhere other than
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  Speaker 2: like the met Gala or something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And some of the dresses lean more that way
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  Speaker 1: than just one or two then you know period piece,
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  Speaker 1: which is fine because it's a fantastical period piece, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they play with that and that's that's part
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  Speaker 1: of the fun. And some of the dresses, I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: why did you make that choice? I don't like it,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I can't say i'd do better because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't do the fashion for the show. Some of
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  Speaker 1: the dresses that though I would like, I want in
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  Speaker 1: my warrobe. And it is fun. It's fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not it doesn't quite meet your expectations.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think part of the problem is the
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  Speaker 1: Queen Charlotte series, which was a spin off that I
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  Speaker 1: didn't expect to like as much. I absolutely loved because
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  Speaker 1: it dealt with the mental illness of King George and
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  Speaker 1: their relationship in such like a kind way that it
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  Speaker 1: was just really good, really really good.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say friend of the show, shay Lee
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  Speaker 2: is that's where her entry point has been for the
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  Speaker 2: whole series, which is interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can watch it before watching any
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  Speaker 1: of Bridgerton. And I do think it is a stronger
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  Speaker 1: piece of work than Bridgerton. One of my actor friends
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  Speaker 1: was saying that I think Shonda Rhymes actually wrote Queen Charlotte.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just it's a really beautiful piece of acting
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  Speaker 1: and work. And yeah, but also like part of the
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  Speaker 1: problem is the first half of Bridgerton is only of
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  Speaker 1: this season of Bridgerton is only four episodes.
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  Speaker 2: So right, well, I'll pass along your note to one
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  Speaker 2: of my coworkers, who is the executive producer on the
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  Speaker 2: Shonda Rhyme's slate of podcasts. Yeah, I have never had
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  Speaker 2: any contact with anyone from that side, so I'm only
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  Speaker 2: like adjacent to greatness. So well, don't don't.
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  Speaker 1: Don't wrap me out.
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  Speaker 2: I love look well, no, I mean I'm in about
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  Speaker 2: the compliments of the Charlotte series.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, do that, because like I was about
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  Speaker 1: to say, you know, just just because something doesn't hate
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  Speaker 1: me in a favorable way doesn't mean it's not a
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  Speaker 1: good show. Well, and that would want to be a
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  Speaker 1: part of it in the future.
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  Speaker 2: I would never tell an artist like, hey, your art
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  Speaker 2: is almost as good as I hoped it would be.
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  Speaker 2: I would never do that. That's like the biggest jerk
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  Speaker 2: base move in the world. So so I watched one
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  Speaker 2: thing that's very, very geeky, and I was very pleased
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  Speaker 2: to see this pop up on YouTube because Jenny Nicholson,
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  Speaker 2: she's a video essayist's.
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  Speaker 1: I did watch this vaguely. I didn't think the.
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars Hotel video, Yeah, but I watched.
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  Speaker 1: I watched it on like one point seventy five speed
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  Speaker 1: while I was working.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you you got through it magnificantly faster or
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  Speaker 2: the bit that you watched, you got through faster than
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  Speaker 2: I did because I watched it on normal speed. And
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  Speaker 2: this is a more than four hour long video. So
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  Speaker 2: Jenny Nicholson does these video essays, some of which are
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  Speaker 2: on the super long side. Most of them tend to
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  Speaker 2: be like her older stuff is all like around half
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  Speaker 2: an hour, but she did a few pieces that were
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  Speaker 2: longer than that, Like she did a really good one
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  Speaker 2: on the Evermore Park that was around three hours. I think, Well,
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  Speaker 2: this was about favor well it was more like a
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  Speaker 2: it was not favorable. I don't think you can say.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was more like it was more like,
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  Speaker 2: here's what was promised and here's what ended up happening,
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  Speaker 2: which is very much the way the Star Wars Hotel
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  Speaker 2: one is, which is about the Galactic Star Cruiser experience,
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  Speaker 2: which was built at Disney World as like a two day,
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  Speaker 2: two night experience, like it was a cruise. You're not
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  Speaker 2: actually on a boat, you're inside a building. It's made
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  Speaker 2: to look like a star cruiser. But it was priced
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  Speaker 2: like a very very expensive cruise, like even more expensive
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  Speaker 2: than a Disney cruise, and Disney cruises are expensive. And
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  Speaker 2: so it's Ginny Nicholson's experience. Like first she gives like
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  Speaker 2: a full rundown of the history of it, the development
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  Speaker 2: of it. She talks about her experience. She talks about like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she and her sister paid around six thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars to stay there.
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  Speaker 1: I think she says, two dollars per minute per person.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of unfortunate things happened on her
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  Speaker 2: specific visit that some of which were you could argue
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  Speaker 2: Disney's fault, some of which had nothing to do like
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  Speaker 2: for example, the day when they got to go to Batu.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of those days in Florida where there's
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  Speaker 2: just a downpour, and obviously Disney has no control over that,
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  Speaker 2: but it does. It does end. If they did, that
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  Speaker 2: would be weird, but it has a huge impact obviously
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  Speaker 2: on the quality of your visit. But like they were
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  Speaker 2: seated at a table for dining that was that had
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  Speaker 2: like a column or a stanchion in between them and
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  Speaker 2: their the sort of staging area where all the story
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  Speaker 2: stuff unfolded, which meant they couldn't see anything. And so
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  Speaker 2: her takedown, it's not even a takedown. Her criticisms largely
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  Speaker 2: are about how for the price you were paying, there
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  Speaker 2: seemed to be a lot of gaps as far as
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  Speaker 2: the quality of experience you could have. And it's a
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  Speaker 2: fascinating video. It is kind of heartbreaking, especially if you
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  Speaker 2: really like Disney, because it seems to be indicative of
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  Speaker 2: some long standing issues that that Disney fans have been
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  Speaker 2: noticing in the parks in general. You know, everything from
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  Speaker 2: ticket prices continuing to go up to turning the fast
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  Speaker 2: pass system into a paywalled system with very popular rides
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  Speaker 2: behind a second paywall like it's it's kind of an
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  Speaker 2: indictment against Disney's current business practices as far as the
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  Speaker 2: parks go. But I think it's incredibly well done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what I saw of it, I thought so too.
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised when she said that, like, there were
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  Speaker 1: up charges she could have got. She could have gotten
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  Speaker 1: bigger rooms or paid more money, or there were a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of like the captain's table for dinner and all
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  Speaker 1: this other stuff that she wasn't told about. And I understand,
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  Speaker 1: when you've got something that expensive and exclusive, you may
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  Speaker 1: not fully disclose all your prices up front, but I
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  Speaker 1: would think that the upsell would be big on it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing that you know. One of her
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  Speaker 2: big criticisms is that the marketing was just I think
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  Speaker 2: part of the problem was that Disney did such a
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  Speaker 2: terrible job with marketing early on, like to the point
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  Speaker 2: where they were getting ridiculed for it. They made them
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  Speaker 2: gun shy. And part of them being gunshy is that
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  Speaker 2: they announced the prices before they really gave many details
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  Speaker 2: on what the experience was like. And as Jenny says, like,
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  Speaker 2: that's kind of the opposite way you would think you
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  Speaker 2: would do it. You would think you would build up
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  Speaker 2: what all the experiences are. First, get people excited, then
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  Speaker 2: they're a little more receptive when you hit them with
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  Speaker 2: the bombshell that this is going to set you back
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  Speaker 2: at least five thousand dollars, and that's if you're getting
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  Speaker 2: the cheapest room. So you know, it's it was definitely
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  Speaker 2: crazy that Disney would have all these add ons and
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  Speaker 2: then not appropriately alert people. Apparently they sent emails out,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of people didn't get them, including Jenny,
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  Speaker 2: so that was a big part of the problem. And
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  Speaker 2: she said, like there were certain ones. It's not that
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  Speaker 2: she was eager to spend more money, but there were
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  Speaker 2: certain things that she would have spent more money on
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  Speaker 2: if she had known about it, because it would have
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  Speaker 2: meant she would have had a better experience, like if
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  Speaker 2: she had gotten the captain's table, for example, she would
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  Speaker 2: have been able to see what was going on during dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting though, because I did have friends go.
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  Speaker 1: We've well, we've had some like mutual acquaintances go, mutual
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  Speaker 1: friends go, but I had some of my LARP friends go.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of the people who were like the owners
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  Speaker 1: of the LARP company that I had been a part
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  Speaker 1: of for so very long, went and loved it so
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  Speaker 1: much that they were planning to go back and bring
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  Speaker 1: their kids and like had the absolute best time. And
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  Speaker 1: these are people who have spent years curating art and
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  Speaker 1: performances and LARPs. And I say that because they also
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  Speaker 1: helped produce films and dance shows and music and like,
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  Speaker 1: so people who are in that world and they really
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  Speaker 1: loved it. So it is. It is interesting. At first
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  Speaker 1: I thought maybe Jenny didn't have like the right mindset,
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  Speaker 1: but it certainly seems through the parts of her documentary
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  Speaker 1: that I watched that she did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and she's also a form Disney cast member.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she worked at Disneyland and she I mean she,
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  Speaker 2: let's be fair, she has an axe to grind with
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars because she loves Star Wars and then she
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  Speaker 2: didn't like the sequels. But also, this is not talking
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  Speaker 2: out of school. There's a whole video about this. The
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  Speaker 2: place she worked in Disneyland was a place that got
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  Speaker 2: cleared to make way for the Star Wars Galaxy's Edge
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  Speaker 2: in Disneyland, So like the whole area where she used
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  Speaker 2: to work doesn't exist anymore. So like I am playfully
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  Speaker 2: saying that she has a grudge against Disney. It's not
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  Speaker 2: really true, but she did say that after she worked there,
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  Speaker 2: she was moved into essentially customer satisfaction and like she's like, yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: then my job was just having to sit there while
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: people came up and yelled at me about their vacation.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: But that's not very magical at all.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: But before that she was in there was a petting
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: zoo that was at Disneyland, and she worked the petting zoo,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: so she really loved that. And then that's because it
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: had such low traffic. That's where they said, well, this
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: makes sense to get rid of this and make way
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: for the Star Wars attraction. Yeah, so anyway, that's a
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: If you haven't ever seen any of Jenny Nicholson's stuff,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: you can check it out. She has a very quirky
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: kind of delivery style, especially in her older videos, because
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: she gets a little like she gets a little breathy,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: like she's talking about this thing and she doesn't really
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: know why it's like that, Like that's kind of her
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: delivery and some of her earlier stuff. I think it's quirky.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Some people might find it irritating. I don't know, gotcha.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I like her work. She does really she does a
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: really good job at synthesizing information and then communicating it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: So I really respect that.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in a very fun way. At first, I thought
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I confused her with Jinny D, who is also kind
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: of quirky and also a delight to watch, but not
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the same person.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Before we moved to thirty seconds or less. Have you
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: seen her video about the evangelical church in Canada that
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: does Easter plays but they end up appropriating copyrighted characters
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: and stories.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: But I have seen I have seen things about that
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: church on like TikTok and social media and things like that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: She's got another like it's like a super because she
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: goes through all the ones she had access to, and
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that video is I have to watch it in chunks,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: not because it's so long, but because it sets off
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: my cringe alert so much that I have to like
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: pace myself.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think the execution of those are very good,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And more so, I don't think they got the licensing
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: rights to use the like.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Hamilton, not at all. Well, the ones thing and that
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: upsets me. Hamilton, I didn't see, but she did like
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: like the ones they the ones they were talking about
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: were things like they had one where it was Back
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to the Future, they had one that was the Avengers,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: they had one and.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: One that was Rocky Horror Picture Show meets. I think
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Little Shop of Horrors or something like.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: That wasn't in her video, but that sounds amazing.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I will be sending you some links, my friend. Maybe
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it's a different organization that does it, but similar.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It could be this one. This one is, like I said,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: it's an evangelical church in Canada where uh, the biggest,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the biggest cringey thing that they do is that it's
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: a very white church and occasionally they have people playing
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: non white characters and it comes down to extreme stereotypes.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not good. That's not good.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: No, not good, not a good thing.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I have had my fair share of laughs
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: at a couple of places that do to have done
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. Maybe it's all the same place. I
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'll have to look that up and I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: will be sending you some links later.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Sounds good. I look forward to seeing bits of the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: fact that it could be two very different churches also
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: delights me. All right, Well, now that we've got that
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: very long tangent out of the way. I suppose we
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: should move on to thirty seconds or less because we
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: actually have quite a bit to talk about.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the first is the will they won't they?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Of Margot Roby's Pirates of the Caribbean movie is on
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the will day side This week, apparently, Jerry Bruckheimer said
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: that Disney would like to make both the one that
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: she is working on with Christina Hodson of Birds of Prey,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: as well as the one that Jeff Nathanson of A
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Young Woman in the Sea is working on or is
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: set to work on, which is great news. I don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: know if we need that many Pirate of the Caribbean
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: world movies, if it's going to be a fractured EU
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: like DC is now like other worlds Pirates. But we'll see, kay,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: or we will.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Or we won't. Yeah, Well, stay tuned, we'll find out
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: when you do. If you watched one The Vision, you
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: know a central part of that show is the mystery
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: of how vision is there in the first place. By
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the end of the series, we have a new vision.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: He's stark, white and freshly filled with visions old memories
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: before he flies off. Now we know that in twenty
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: twenty six, we're getting a Disney Plus series featuring Vision,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: and Paul Bettany will be back to play him. Terry Matalis,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: who helped star Trek Mcard, will be the showrunner.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Y'all can't see that. I'm I'm gluten at that because
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I love Paul Bettany's vision. Jonathan needs to hurry up
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: and finish Sandman because season two is on its way,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and we just got a drop of the new characters
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: they're introducing into season two, which, to be fair, a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: couple of the characters they already well, they show us
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: all the characters they've already introduced, and then they introduce
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the character of Delirium, Destiny and the Prodigal which close
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: your ears for ten seconds if you don't know and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: you don't want to know, is destruction. And yeah, it
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: looks they look pretty good. When I saw the picture
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: of the first glimpse of Delirium, I was like, that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: reminds me of my friend because she dressed up like
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Delirium for Halloween a couple of years ago.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Wow. Well, Darren Limkey, who wrote the film adaptation of Goosebumps,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: will be writing a film inspired by the legendary exclusive
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: club at Disney called Club thirty three. The wait list
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: to join that club is long and limited, and it
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: is mad expensive, like it's thirty three thousand dollars up
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: front and fifteen thousand dollars a year for Club thirty
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: three at Disney World. So my guess is that this
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: is going to be a movie that really shows how
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the rich lead an exclusionary existence compared to the rest
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: of us, and we should eat them. But the Hollywood
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: reporter says it's going to be more like Clue. Wow.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: No, that is interesting.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I I have complicated feelings about Club thirty three.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll move it into the actual conversation next week
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: if you're still feeling those feelings. Horror Inc. Who are
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the original owners of Friday the thirteenth. I'm already scared
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: because my voice cracked, y'all Horror thirteen or Horror Inc.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Lord help me. I have not had enough sleep. We've
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: already hit thirty seconds. So they're doing a bunch of
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: more jacent stuff, including games, igmersive experiences, merchandise, and a
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: prequel series called Crystal Lake that's going to be on Peacon.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This was so I know We've already hit the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: thirty seconds, so I'm going to go ahead and do
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: this anyway. This was actually a big deal because this
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: is one of those things where there were disputes with
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the rights because the pre series. The title was held
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: up in a long time because whether or not they
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: would have the right to call it Crystal Lake was
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: a question, and that was something that had to be
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: settled eventually. Sounds like it has been okay. Yeah. Fathom
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Events and DC Studios are bringing the long awaited documentary
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Super slash Man The Christopher Reeves Story the theaters on
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: September twenty first, twenty twenty four, and there will be
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: an encore presentation on September twenty fifth, which was Christopher
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Reeves's birthday. The documentary details the life of the late
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Christopher Reeve, who was many things besides what I would
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: call the best cinematic Superman to date in my opinion,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: because he was also in Noises Off.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Very interesting. Todd McFarlane and Scott Silver have been working
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: on a Spawn movie. That's not really news, but we
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: did get news. They have been writing and rewriting and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: reworking the script into something that they like, which great
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: if you don't like the script you've made. Work on
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: it some more, but they're hoping to have it done
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: so that they can get a studio partner before Joker
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: fally Ad comes out in October.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Well, here comes that joke I have warned you about earlier.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: As Stained would say, it's been a while since we've
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: seen old Geralta rivio on the screen. Henry Cavill famously
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: stepped back from The Witcher in twenty twenty two in
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: order to not be Superman. Instead, Netflix named Liam Hemsworth
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the new Gerralt, and Netflix just gave us the first
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: look of Liam as the Witcher in a very short
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: clip on X in which we get to look at
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: his back for a while as he's walking, and then
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: he stops and then he turns around a little bit.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: This was less interesting to talk about than to watch,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't interesting to watch.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Dexter is getting a prequel series, Dexter Original Sin Now
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: they have cast the leads for it. Patrick Gibson will
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: be playing Kid Dexter, Christian Slater will be playing kid
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Dexter Daddy and that sounds creepy his father, and Molly
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Brown will be playing Dexter's sister Deborah. When you read
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the synopsis of Dexter, along with the fact that he's
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: a kid, it's much more creepy even if you knew
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that from the original series. But if you're a fan,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you'll have more content coming soon.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I thought they should have gotten the kid who
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: played Sheldon and young Sheldon to play young Dexter.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: He's I mean, he's not really a kid anymore.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: No, but like Dexter doesn't. I mean, the first time
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: we see Dexter, he's clearly in his late twenties, early
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: thirties something like that, so we still have room there, Okay.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: In Pet's cemetery, Fred Gwinn said, sometimes dead is better,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: But Gwen is also Herman Munster and the Munsters, and
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: it seems like Munsters just won't stay dead. Rob Zombie
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: did a poorly received reboot not too long ago. Before that,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: we got a TV series called Mockingbird Lane that lasted
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: maybe two episodes, and now James Wand has been tapped
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: to bring it back again, this time as thirteen thirteen,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: which will quote live and breathe within the Universal Monster
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Verse end quote.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Yay, I mean, I love classic Universal monsters.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe just look at how great they've been doing
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: with those in the most recent films.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought it was dead and now we're
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: getting a park, So maybe maybe the entire Dark Universe
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: park will just all be monsters.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: That would be I mean, I do like the theme
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: song that that theme song rocks.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay, probably shouldn't sing it on the show.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Dave the Diver really bizarre but kind of relaxing game
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is treading into deep waters. They have now released a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Godzilla DLC where you get Godzilla and Abira I guess Eberra,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the lobster one that you can fight, and they'll fight
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: each other and you can find like weird like tokens
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: that are related to them. If you like the Dave
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the Diver and you think it needs more kaiju, you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: can download it until you can download the DLC until
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: November twenty third. If you don't and you just want
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: an innate, creepy fishing game, go check out Dredge.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which had a crossover with Dave the Diver, which
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: is great. It's fantastic. Yeah, both of those games are great.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: By the way, Dave the Diver and Dredge are both
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: fantastic and they did do a crossover and no, I
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: have not played the crossover, but I have played both
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the games.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Dave, the Diver is just so weird.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: It's so many things. Yeah, it's well, it's I think
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: it was made in Korea and it has like a
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Korean sense of humor, which is like a ven diagram
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: where it overlaps American sense of humor. But it's not
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: a perfect circle.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Okay. A documentary titled Frank Miller American Genius is getting
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: a one night only showing on June tenth and Cinemark
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: theaters here in the United States. I take issue with
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: the title of that documentary, but I'll be good. Miller
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: has worked on iconic comic characters from Batman to Daredevil,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: as well as his own creations. Silent Thomas, who's the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: CEO of Frank Miller, Inc. Directed the documentary, which I'm
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: sure is even handed and fair.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: There's there's I can't I can't tell your tone in that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to assume heavy dose of snark.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, That's what I thought. Last for me on the
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds or last least thirty seconds or last is
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that Atari has acquired in television entertainment, and by that
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I mean the brand in the games, not the actual LLC.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: So they're going to have access to the catalog of
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the television games and things like that, which includes Donkey Kong.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: I will say this, So when I was a kid,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I had an Atari twenty six hundred, and then I
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: got I think it was my cousin's old in television
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: and a whole like box of games. And this was
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: after the video game crash in nineteen eighty three, so
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: there was no there were no new games coming out
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: for that system, like the whole thing had folded at
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: this point. So I ad Atari really and I was
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: really impressed by the Intellivision games because I felt like
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: they were a real step up from the Atari twenty
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: six hundred ones, even though I hated the intelevision controller
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: with a passion. It was terrible.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they do have good games. Donkey Kong, Pac Man, Pitfall.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: They had. They had their Dungeons and Dragons. I had
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that one. I had ad and D yeah that one.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: And I remember the game that I'll never forget was
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: be Sevan Taine Baler because it had vocal simulation on
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: there where you would have voice in there, which was
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: crazy because if you had played Atari twenty six hundred,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you just heard like bang bong, like those were the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: sound effects. But this one had had voice in it,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: but it was super like modulated and weird something, and
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: they had to speak really slowly for you to be
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: able to understand what they were saying. So that's thus
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: the May seventeen Balmer.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I think that is that's amazing. I love it. I
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: think the in television games that I played the most
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: were River Raid and pole Position.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: See those were both Atari games, as I recall, but
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: maybe they had them on television too.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Well maybe maybe Google has already updated them all. I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: might have played pole Position on my Commodore sixty four.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because because river Raid was probably my favorite Atari
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: game that I did not own. River Raid and Pitfall
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: two games that I thought were incredible and I didn't
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: known either of them. Instead, I had Et the Extraterrestrial. Yeah,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Who's that guy?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Is a delightful game to have said that you owned.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, the one that everyone says killed the video
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: game industry and ended up ended up being in a
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: big a landfill.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Landfill. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about that on one of
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: our Business on the Brink episodes.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah we did. Uh.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I never owned an atari or an in television. I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: just had, like I said, my Commodore sixty four. And
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the game I played most is a game that I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: had to look up to make sure it existed because
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: no one remembered it called Space Taxi.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: For me, it was there was a Texas Instruments game.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I had that for a while. I thought I had
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: imagined called Hunt the Wumpus, but no, it really existed.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Kind of like mind Sweeper. It's one of those games
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: where you have to kind of guess where what's in
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the tile next to you based upon clues, and then
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: you make a move and if you're wrong, the Wumpus
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: eats you. All right, well let me I still have
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: one more thirty seconds or less. Oops, No, it's fine,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Like we're thirty five minutes into this, sucker, let's go
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: ahead and close out thirty seconds or less. So in
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy seven, Steven Spielberg directed a science fiction UFO film.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: It's called Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and I
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: loved it. Spielberg says his next project is going to
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: be going back to UFO Territory. Now, we don't know
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: very much about the project except that David Kupp, who
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: was the screenwriter on the original Jurassic Park, is going
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: to be working on this, adapting an original story from
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Spielberg himself. The Universal Pictures already hasn't slated for a
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: May fifteenth, twenty twenty six release.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like that's a deadline, right, Like you don't
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: even have a cast or maybe not even a full
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: script yet, and you're like, yeah, this movie's coming out
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: on this date, so get get to work.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wow. We also had another story that should
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: have been in thirty seconds or less, but we found
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: out shortly before we hit record, which is that Knives
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Out has announced the title of their third movie, which
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: is Wake Up dead Man, which my brain is just
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: picturing Don't Wake Daddy.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I was talking to Ariel before we
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: hit record that it was so funny that I have
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: just started to kind of see Glass Onion stuff pop
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: up in my recommendations for things like YouTube and stuff,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: little clips from that, which I mean, I've seen the movie,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: but I'm getting like little clips recommended to me. And
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: it made me wonder, like huh. I wonder if they're
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: going to make another one. And the last thing I
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: had seen was that everybody attached was interested in the
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: possibility of making another one, but that Ryan Johnson was
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: still working out the story. So I guess that all
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: got worked out.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess, so yay, yay, hey yay.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I hope like Glass Onion is one where I enjoyed
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: watching it when I saw it, but I think I
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: liked the first movie better. Even though I liked I
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: liked all the actors in the sequel, but I felt
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: like the first movie was a better story, or at
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: least that's that's how I felt. Part of it may
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: have been just that I kind of my brain rejected
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: the concept of purposefully destroying the Mona Lisa spoiler alert
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: by the way, for Glass Onion.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Anyhow, I honestly like I must have been so upset
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: by it that I forgot.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, I forgot. That's the climax of the film. It's
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: the thing that brings the villain down in the end.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: But moving on, We've got some trailers and stuff to
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: talk about. One we saw a trailer for a documentary
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: that's coming to Hulu on June thirteenth. It's called Brats
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: and it's not about the dolls.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Which I thought it was, so I was not looking
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: forward to watching the trailer. No, it's fine. Yeah, I
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: was like, if we really hit that point, I mean,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: we need a documentary on the doll But.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: You like the Barbie movie.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the Brat's already in that.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. That's one of those if you don't know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: you'll never realize. It's a reference thing.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But also I guess I should have realized that
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: you spelled it br ats.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't put the Z in there or the Z. Yeah.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: This is about the Brat Pack, the group of young
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: actors in the nineteen eighties who mostly were in things
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: like John Hughes films, and it's sort of them reflecting
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: on their celebrity at that time, and also just what
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: the term the Brat Pack did to their careers and
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to the perception of them as people, which I think
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: is really interesting because you're like, a lot of these folks,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: not all of them, but a lot of them went
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: on to have really notable careers in film and television
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and have done lots of stuff since then. So it's
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: interesting to see them now, you know, so many years later,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: like forty years later to talk about this stuff.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of them that well,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: first of all, some of them I didn't realize we're
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: in the brat.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Pack, Like Rob Loow No, yeah, Rob Blow, you're right
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: blow Okay.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, is that the correct low? But yeah,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't realize he was in the brat pack.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're not. When I think brat pack, like
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I think of, uh, what was it not sixteen Candles
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: and not Pretty in Pink Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club is
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: always the film I think of with brat pack, Like
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: that's the movie that comes to mind. But the brat
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: pack was it can insisted of a group of folks
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: that span lots of different movies around that same general
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: time period, and they all kind of fell into that
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: you know, teenage comedy drama type stuff. So like Fast
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Times at Ridgemont High, I would argue would probably fall
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: into that category two, although that was probably a little later.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think the little trailer for this looked fun.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Like I liked hearing people kind of reflect on it
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: and hearing their perspective because it's something I had never
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: heard before. So it's really interesting.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's positive and not positive, and it looks I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: mean it just it feels very It gives the same
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: vibe as like class action parks as far as like
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the way people relate to it almost to me interesting. Yeah,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think it's just because some
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, yeah, I didn't like being called
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: a brat and I didn't I didn't like it at
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the time, or I didn't like that these things happened,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: but also like it launched our career and like just
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: like the the very honest seeing all of the sides
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as it And because these were movies that
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: were really popular when I was a kid, some of
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: them like obviously dealing with stuff that was a little
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: bit beyond my own experience because you know, I'm probably
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: about on average, probably about five years younger than most
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: of the members of the Brat Pack somewhere around there.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: So like it's a little different for me, but still
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: really interesting and I'm looking forward to seeing it. Since
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: those films they shaped a lot of stuff that would follow, right, Like, yeah,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you could argue there'd be no Ferris Bueller's Day Off
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: if there hadn't been you know, pretty in paining sixteen Candles,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club, that kind of stuff. So like, when you
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: start looking at the evolution of comedies featuring like teenage characters,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of that has its roots in this particular
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: era of cinema.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there is an interesting point in the trailer where
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: John it's just a brief clip of John Cryer saying
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I wasn't a part of the brat pack, and how
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: is I hope he was kidding because how is Ducky
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: not a part of the brat pack?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be kind of a cheeky,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: little like murky kind of thing, and it's not reflective
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: of his actual feelings. That's the implication I felt. But
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I won't know for sure until it comes out, And
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: obviously I won't know for sure until November because it's
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: going to be on Hulu. Yeah, yeah, and I have
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: to wait till November. But to add Hulu to my
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Disney Plus subscription.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, even though a lot of those movies were kind
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: of before my time and I didn't get to appreciate
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: them as a teenager, when they can, I'm out. I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: do look forward to it too. I don't look forward
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: to the next thing we're going to talk about.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I don't want to watch it. I
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: when I saw that there was a trailer for this,
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I at first was excited because it's a trailer for
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: a documentary that's coming to HBO, a three part documentary
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: that premiere is on June second, and it's called.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Is it an actual documentary?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, No, it's about the Texas Renaissance Festival. It's
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: called Renfair.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Sorry I interrupted you.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's ren Fair and this is a documentary. It's
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: not Did you think it was a scripted show.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I thought it was like a mockumentary.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: No, it's a documentary. It's a real thing. Oh well
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: real in air quotes because documentary I think should also
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: be in air quotes. Because if you watch this trailer,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: anyone with like even a minor amount of media awareness
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: will sense that this is something that's being kind of
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: put into performformance mode. It's not like a documentary as
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: in some kind of objective view of reality. It's clearly
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: played up quite a bit. I said, it feels kind
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of like a Game of Thrones for very very low stakes,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: but ultimately it's about this guy who started a Renaissance
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: festival and I believe it's supposed to be Texas, and
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's getting on in years, and there
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: are these three different people at least in the documentary,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: who knows how many in reality, but three people who
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: are all kind of vying to be the new owner
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: of this because the assumption is that the current owner
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: will either want to hand it off or won't be
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: around for very much longer because of various health issues,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I guess. And yeah, it it feels like a lot
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: of it feels very fake, fakementary, yeah, or even just
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: plain fake, like it is not a mockular. It kind
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: of feels like a documentary in that it's way too
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: produced then your typical documentary would be. But yeah, I
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: was like.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Also, people's reactions just don't feel real. And I I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: know that Renaissance festival circuit people are interesting. They usually
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: feel real to me.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's definitely, Like I said, everything feels feels fake.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Like I said, it does feel like Game of Thrones,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: but for you know, very super low.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Stakes produced by the Tiger King.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was how I worded it. It's like
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Tiger King, but Renaissance festival.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: That, Yeah, you just needed to say that.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: I would definitely say that if you want to watch
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: something that is about a Renaissance festival that's produced with
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: kind of a quirky love for how dorky renaissance festivals are.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And I say that as a former Renaissance festival performer. Renfest,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: which was Mary Joe Pell's series best known as Mama
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Forrester of M S. T. Three K, she did a
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: whole Renfest comedy documentary kind of thing, and although that's
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: more of a tell it like a comedic TV series
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: proposal that she did, but it definitely felt more like
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: a love letter to the craziness that is Renaissance festivals,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: unless of this overproduced Tiger King nightmare.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: That being said, some of the cringy things in the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Renfest trailer that was called Fairnfair Trailer are kind not
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: completely inaccurate sure oftentimes, which is also upsetting. Right, So,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's great to have a love letter to
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: renaissance festivals, but there's also a lot of things in
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: that culture that could be better.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, Like again, going back to Jenny Nicholson, the
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: piece she did about Evermore, I feel could easily apply
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: to a lot of Renaissance festivals too, And she doesn't
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: get into sort of the issues that certainly existed when
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: you and I first started at the Renaissance Fair here
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: in Georgia. The atmosphere, both on stage and backstage was
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: a bit more body back then, which is not to
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: say that it was better or worse, but it certainly
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be appropriate today. And arguably you could say it
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: was never appropriate. Ever, it was just not frowned upon
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: back when we started, Like there was a lax attitude
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: toward that kind of stuff, which was really not for
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: the best, I would argue. But she doesn't really touch
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: on that as far as Evermore goes. But she does
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: touch on other issues things like, you know, entertainment and
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: whether or not they're being fairly compensated, that kind of thing,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: And I feel like a real documentary about a Renaissance
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: fair would need to go into that too, like how
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: are the entertainers in your fair compensated? If they are,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and if they're not, how do you get away with
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: that that kind of thing.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do feel like ren Fair touches on
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: some of the inappropriate body behavior stuff in the trailer
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. I don't know if I can bring
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: myself to watch it. The next thing on HBO I
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: actually look forward to watching isn't really something that belongs
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: on the show, but it's the Great Lilian Hall.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I sent you the trailer for that because
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: when I saw it, I was like, Wow, this looks
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: like it's going to be really effective on an emotional level.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: But that's a story about an actor who is kind
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: of looks like it's like almost like Alzheimer's, right, Like
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: it's like a Alzheimer's or dementia or something. Yeah, it's
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: some sort of degenerative function that's that's hitting her, that's
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: affecting her ability to to just function generally, but specifically
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: function in her role as an actor on the stage.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: And it definitely looks like it's gonna pack an emotional wallop.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was a line at the end of
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: that trailer that was getting me to the point where
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, there's dust in this room because my
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: eyes are starting to get weepy.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I definitely cried during the trailer, and I know someone
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: who's in it in a pretty decent sized role, and
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, I look forward to watching you, but
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I need to, like, I will need to buy stocking
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: Kleenex because I couldn't even make it through the tra trailer.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Well, the next thing we have on our list is
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: sticking with the historical historical element. A trailer for my
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Lady Jane. And in this case, we're talking about Jane Gray.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: And this is a fictional retelling. It's like an alternate
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: history series that premieeres on June twenty seventh. And it's
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: an interesting trailer because I mean, it's a very much
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: an alternate history to the point where people are behaving
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: and talking in ways that are not at all historically accurate.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna say something, Jonathan, and you're
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: gonna lose respect for me. I don't really know who
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Lady Jane Gray is.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: You don't know who the Lady Jane Gray is, Okay.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: So she was kind of sort of queen for nine days, okay,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and then she wasn't at all, like not just not queen,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: she was she was not anything anymore.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so she was, yeah, and it was she was
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: a teenager at the time. Yeah, she took the throne
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: in the mid sixteenth century and was uh, descending from
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: King Henry the seventh, so not the not the eighth,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: but the seventh, and so she was like I want
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: to say, King Henry the eighth was like her granduncle. Uh.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: And anyway, she was she was kind of tapped to
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: be regent because of a lack of anyone else to
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: do the job at the time, and you know Edward
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: had died. She effected was queen and then she was
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: jailed in the Tower of London and then then she
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: was executed. So yeah, very sad story about this person.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Did she do anything to be executed or was it just.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: A power play she was, Yeah, she did something to
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: be executed in that she got to be queen.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha, gotcha?
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it really was a power play kind of thing. Yeah.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: She was technically charged with high treason, but that was
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: because of her her husband, the Lord Dudley, was seen
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: as a usurper. So her husband was seen as someone
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: who was trying to make a play for the throne
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: through his wife, and so kill them all was the
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: way to go with that.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Sometimes people's methods are really not good. And I apologize.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: I apologize already, Like over halfway through this episode of People,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: I am running. I'm very little sleep, so I'm listening.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I promise you I'm actively listening. But sometimes things are
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: not sticking in my brain. So if I seem a
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: little off, that is why.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Oh no worries. Yeah, this super Wonka Doodles. It's her story.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Her historical story is one of tragedy. The series appears
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: to be like, this was a terrible thing that happened
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: in history, so we're just going to rewrite it and
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: make it something totally different nice, which kind of makes
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: me think of the completely made up Adventures of Dick
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Turpin in a way, except this doesn't look quite as silly.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: This definitely has some dramatic elements to it, but it
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: has comedic ones too.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it reminded me of that. Or I haven't watched
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: it yet, but Renegade nell On Disney.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I still need to see that. I friends of
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: ours watched it and really liked it, and I still
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: haven't watched it.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I've heard good things too, my sister. I at least
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: heard her response to the first episode, which was it
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: was really good but actually sad, which I didn't expect.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: But I like that there's giving Jane Gray a chance
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: to rewrite her story because you know, she didn't get
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: to be in the musical six because thankfully she didn't
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: have to marry King Henry the Eighth.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Oh but Henry the Eighth was many things, but marrying
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: his own grand niece was not one of them.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, next up, we got a little little teaser
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: trailer thing for Stranger Things The First Shadow, which is
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: not a spin off Netflix series. It is a stage
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: show that is now mounted at the Phoenix Theater in London.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: It actually opened this week on the twenty third of May, which,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: as we record this is yesterday.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it looks like a fun play.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: It definitely. It's giving me because it has like the
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: same sort of effects and stuff like. It seems to
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: be a very effects heavy sort of show, which you
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: would expect for Stranger Things. It's giving me Back to
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: the Future musical vibes, though it's not a musical.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I could I could see that. I yeah, I could
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: see that. I also haven't seen Back to the Future
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the musical, but.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Well, as you can imagine, the DeLorean in that show
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: is kind of like like it's not like it's the
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: main star or anything. But that's the thing everybody goes
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: nuts for when it's up on stage because it is
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: such an impressive theatrical effect. I have a feeling that
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: this show kind of has those as anchors as well. Yes,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I gotta see.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I mean Beetle Juice also had a lot of cool
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: like and yes, Harry Potter the Curse Child. Yeah, for
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: all of that property's problems. Apparently this stage show has
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: some crazy amazing effects.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which you know, we can trace that back to everything,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: like back to the Phantom of the Opera or Starlight
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Express like that kind of stuff. But you know, obviously
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: it's far more sophisticated now than from the early eighties
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: and everything. But what did you think of this trailer?
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: Because I had a thought, but I don't want to
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: I don't want to affect your opinion before I say it.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Also, we should say that this play is Cannon, So
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: even though it's not a spin off show, it is
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Cannon in the Stranger Things universe. I think if Jonathan
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: didn't already say that, now I'm saying it if he did.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: It's also it's also I would argue a prequel because
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: you're seeing children who are also part of the experiments
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: because the main one in Stranger Things is eleven, and
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: one of the characters in you Know the First Shadow
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: is labeled as one.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I liked it. I think it
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: looks fun and engaging. Any show could, you know? Being
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: on being in theater, there's a lot of things that
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: you can there's a lot of stage magic that you
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: just know and your brain translates into, oh, yeah, that's
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. That's cool. I feel like this is
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: one of those shows that if I were fortunate enough
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: to go to London to watch it, I would really
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: be kind of amazed at the all of the stage craft.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, that's where my head goes. I think
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: the acting looks good. This is one of the kids
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: from It Isn't It Isn't.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: When I was listening, I was like, at least some
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: of these people are clearly English actors doing an American accent,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: because it doesn't sound right to me. Let me, let
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: me double chuck.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Nope, he was not from it at all. He just
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of one of the kids.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: From from the most recent films.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but okay, So to be fair, when you're like
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: this is one of the prior kids are You're not
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: caught up on Stranger Things, right.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Though, I am not. I never got past the first season.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: So this will be a slight spoiler for you, Jonathan.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to double check myself to make sure
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I'm correct. The main character of this story is the
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: kid who eventually becomes Vekna.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Oh wow in the season. I did not know that
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: that was one of the kids that that that.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It's a spoiler. You
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: can edit in a giant spoiler alert if you.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, no, You've only just spoiled it for me.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know if any of our listeners have also
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: not watched beyond the first season, but it's just spoiled
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: for you, know, your beloved co host, who's here on?
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: You warn you that?
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a warning it was it was you weren't
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: warning me so much as you were alerting me that
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: you were going to spoil it.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm sorry.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Who's an editor for this show? Who edits? Yeah? So,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: no matter what, I was gonna have to hear it.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense, so maybe so, But I mean,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: in season four this, this is something that they talk
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: about okay throughout the season. But yeah, so it's it
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: is just telling that character's story. It's telling Henry Kreole's story, gotcha.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: But it's still totally worth the watch. I actually quite
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: enjoy I think season two was my least favorite season
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: of Stranger Things, but they all feel so very different
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I it's I need to get better about this
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: because the list of things that are that I kind
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: of put off to the side and then just never
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: went back to is so long. And it's not that
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to go back. It's that the longer
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: I wait, the more it feels like it's work. Right.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean so like in some of the things,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: it's hard because you're like, well, I'm going to go
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: back to this, but then I'm going to have to
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: go back to it again in another you know, six months.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Or yeah, or I need to start over because I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: don't remember all the threads anymore.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: So, like I didn't finish season of one of Lost
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: in Space, and I wanted to because I also want
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: to watch season two, but now I have to go
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: back and watch all of season one. I did not.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen the very last episode of Lock and Key,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: and now I'm afraid I have to go back and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: watch all of the final season. To watch the final episode.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: It correct me if I'm wrong, Ariel, And maybe I am,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: but I could have sworn, didn't you like hold out
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: against watching Stranger Things for a long time because you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: were worried it was too scary.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I I tried to watch the first episode by myself
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: like twice, and it was too scary. And finally it
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: hit like a saturation point in our culture where my partner,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: who I love and tries a lot of shows with me,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: but a lot of shows if like the first of
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: the second episode don't grab him. Because I do have
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: vastly more interests than he does, I don't make him
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: watch it. You know, I made him watch almost the
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I made him watch the entire first season of Doctor
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Who with me, and he didn't like it. So I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: haven't made him watch anymore. And he wasn't interested. He
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: had watched the first episode two and was like, it
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: feels like one of those shows where they're like, hey,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: remember this nostalgia. I think he had got burned by
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: oh okay, well, like the first episode is all about like, hey,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: things were wacky when we did it back debt then
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: and then here's all the creativity of how we make
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: an ad and then it kind of left all of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: those things and just, uh, just turned into a drama show.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: So I think he was a little bit wary because
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: of that, and then just the whole like, hey, remember
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: all this nostalgia thing. He was like, that's not really
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: good story. But he sat through the first season with
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: me and ended up liking it that like the more
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: you went into it, kind of in the same way
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like Fallout the first I liked the first
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: two episodes, but I definitely feel the show gets exponentially
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: better as it goes along. So he eventually watched it,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: and then he really enjoyed it and ended up watching
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: all the seasons with me and has even gone back
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: and watched the seasons without me. But I can handle
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: it now, But when it first came out, it was
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: not knowing what to expect. It was too scary for
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: me to get into. Kind of like I had to
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: watch Scream one twice because the first time I couldn't
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: get through the beginning part with Drew barrymore understandable.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: It's a pretty intense sequence. Well, if you're in London
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: and you go to the Phoenix Theater and you catch
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Stranger Things the first shadow, let us know what you
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: thought about it, because I don't I don't currently have
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: plans to be in London anytime super soon, so I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: don't know that I'm going to be able to catch this.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate being in London super well.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Neither would I. I just don't think it's going to happen.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we got we got several more things to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: get through and I want to get through them, so
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: we're going.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: To We'll do it.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: We'll do it quicker, quicker, Yeah, we'll see. But next up,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: we have a trailer to what If, an immersive story
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: which definitely gets set in the MCUs what If Animated
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: series universe kind of thing, but it's not something you're
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: going to be able to watch on television or on
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: your smartphone or on a tablet. The only way you
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: get to experience this is if you're one of those
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: people who shelled out at least three five hundred dollars
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: for an Apple Vision pro headset because it's an augmented
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: reality series. Boo.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: There are other augmented reality headsets you could have and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: play it on. That's just mean.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, on the one hand, Apple needs to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: have like various applications custom made for the Vision pro
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: to justify anyone purchasing it, because yeah, why would you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: buy this incredibly expensive piece of technology if there's nothing
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: to run on it. It's like buying a video game
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: console but there are no video games out for it. It
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: would make no sense, right, So on the one hand,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: I get it, Like I get the incentive for Apple
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: to have this happen. I'm guessing they must have dumped
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: a truckload of money over on Disney's front lawn, because otherwise,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: why would Disney spend the time and resources to make
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: this for what they know would have to be a
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: small audience, Like we're talking at most around half a
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: million people who have one of these things.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what, though I would, I wouldn't.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: I bought a VR headset in December, and I didn't
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: buy an Apple one. I don't own any Apple products.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be all honest here. Yeah, I'm an android girl.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: But in more ways than one, she actually has a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: robot brain.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Yep, you can hear the whir of the servers inside. Uh,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: this is going to be the future, saying uh yeah, No,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I like, I get it, but also I don't get
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: you know what, I don't get paying more for Apple
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: because I'm a cheap, cheap girly. I'm like, then I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: can only use proprietary things to Apple. Yeah, and it's
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: more expensive and I have to update it more often,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's just it's nope. I know a
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: lot of people love Apple, and I have a lot
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: of actors who are like, oh, you should switch to
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: Apple because it's easier to edit these things. You've got
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: all these tools for like your auditions and stuff, and
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: I get that, not to.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: Mention that your text messages won't be popping up in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: blue anymore. Yeah, yeah, because the whole I message thing. No,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: I'm the same way. I don't. I'm a I'm a
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: PC Android kind of feller. So I don't have Apple either.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: And there is definitely an Apple tax that you pay
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: on top of stuff, Like, they make great products, but
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: they're expensive for what they are already, and then they
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: get more expensive because it's Apple. The vision pro is
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: one of those things where I feel they're still trying
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: to argue it's a solution that's still looking for a problem.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Like I don't think a lot of people have tons
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: of use cases where an augmented reality headset would solve
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: a real issue they have. It would just be another
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: way to do stuff, which I don't think is a
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: strong enough argument to get people to buy something that's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: that expensive. Now, for the longest time, everyone has said, well,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: the Vision Pro is like, that's like the debut product,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: and the later ones will be scaled down, they won't
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: have as many features and they'll be less expensive. But
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the question is will that version still be interesting enough
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: for people to actually buy when they know they're not
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: getting the full thing? Right, Like, it may be that, yeah,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: i'd get the Vision Pro if it weren't thirty five
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars, if it were closer to like a smartphone,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: then maybe i'd buy it. But if you tell me, okay,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: we've got you a version that you can buy, but
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: it's lacking all these other features that are only in
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: the Vision Pro, then you're like, well, now you're trying
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: to sell me something that's not as valuable to me.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: At that point, spend a fraction of the money and
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: get a decent VR headset like a Medaquest or Yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I understand you may not want to buy a Medicquest
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: because you may not want to support that company, but
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: you know there are other headset companies out there that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: are less expensive.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the the trailer does look neat like it's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: It looks like it would project the view of animated
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: characters within your actual environment. There's a bit where someone's
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: doing the hand gesture of swirling their hand in a
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: big circle to create a portal a Lah Doctor Strange
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: or Wonger's which makes me wonder if if it means
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you're going to get the MCU's premiere party girl to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: show up, because that would be awesome. That would be awesome.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: But yeah, you are the No, you are the the
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: MCU's premiere party girl in that game.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my name is Jonathan with a Y. But it's
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: not where you think. But yeah, I thought, I thought
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: the trailer looked interesting, but it's a I think it's
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: almost a non starter because it's the Apple Vision pro.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: I just I can't imagine there's going to be a
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: large enough audience for it to have any sort of
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: follow up and it means that most people are never
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: going to experience the story, which is kind of a bummer.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like the people who worked on it
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: did a really good job.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no shade on them.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Yep. Sadness, Well, let's go from sad to scared because
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: those are similar emotions.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I made Ariel watch another horror trailer, this time
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: for a movie called Never Let Go, which is coming
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: out in September. September twenty seventh, and really scary and Yeah,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: it looks interesting like there's obviously been some sort of
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: apocalyptic event that looks like it might be paranormal in nature,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: like there's there's stuff in the woods and it wants
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: to get you and when you. It centers around a family.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Halle Berry plays the mother, and she has two boys,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: right and yes, And whenever they have to go out
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: and forage for stuff, they each tie a rope that
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: leads back to the house and they're told to never
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: never let go of that rope, thus the title, and
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: as the trailer reveals, things do not go as planned.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It I can't really tell what exactly the bad
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: guy is in it. It does feel very super natural.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: It kind of gives me like, I didn't watch Arcadian,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: but I did watch the trailer for it that Nicholas
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Cage one with the two with the two boys. Yeah,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm just reminded of it because of the like
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: they they also hole up in their house and it's
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: a family of three with a parent and two kids.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Like that meets bird Box well in.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: A little bit of a quiet place too.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like there's almost a subgenre of movies
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: that all kind of belong to the same general family
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: like that. Like, it's interesting to me when movies do this,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: particularly in the horror genre, where you'll get into these
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: cycles where it's not the same story, but you can
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: tell like they're dealing with similar premises. So in this case,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: it's the small family post apocalypse, depending upon each other.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: There's something out there that's gonna get them. But like
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: a few years ago, the big subgenre in horror was
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: you think your host's house is haunted, but guess what
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: turns out Grandma lives in the water.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: I don't like that either.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: Well I didn't say it was good. I just said like,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: there were a ton of movies that had someone's living
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: in the walls of your house as the actual thing,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: Like it's always done in a way where it's supposed
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: to be. You're supposed to think it's paranormal, but it
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: turns out Nope, it's a dude living in It's Bruno
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: living in the walls of your house.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Well, okay, okay, that I don't like. I don't now
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: every time I hear a noise, Jonathan, because I avoid horror.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: Generally, you're either gonna think it's someone in the house
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: or there's something outside that's gonna get you if you're
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: not tied to your home. Yes.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Yes. Also, when I was trying to remember the name Arcadian,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I looked up Nick Cage horror movie and apparently there's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: one where he's an FBI agent chasing a serial killer
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: coming out this year called Long Legs, and those pictures
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: scared me.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: I'm sad. I looked at You've got to be careful
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: to Google when we're in the middle of recording.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: But I like doing it. It makes me seem like
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I'm smarter.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Than I Well, let's move on to something that I
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: feel you'll have a lot to say about. Because we
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: watched we got the full trailer first trailer for Beetlejuice
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: the sequel, So Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. What did you think of
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: this trailer?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Three times?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Three times? Yeah, it's fine.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I liked it. I liked it more than
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: I thought I would, and I felt like Michael Keaton
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: brought his energy up from the teaser trailer.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's funny that they I wish they didn't
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: repeat a gag that was in the first movie. There's
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: a specific gag that they repeat, and when I saw that,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: first I thought, well, I wish you hadn't shown this
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: in the trailer, and second I thought, well, I kind
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: of wish you hadn't done it at all, because it
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: starts to remind me of like those Mike Myers movies,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: like where he'll do the same style of physical comedy
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: in every movie that he's in.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I think I know the gag you're talking about.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: And I had the same reaction.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole, the whole, like you want to see
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: the whole scary thing, like you know what I'm talking Yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did it in the play, and I loved
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: it in the play because I'm like, well that was cool.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't you know, that was a cool stage effect.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: But yeah, when I saw it in this, I'm like, oh,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: you've already done that. But honestly, my biggest concern with
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: the trailer is that there's a lot more like Sandworm action,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: and uh I think it's CG. It feels more CGI
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: than and I could just be in a sleepy delirium
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: in the trailer. It seemed more CGI than like stop
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: motion to me. Yeah, and I didn't like that as much.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a certain charm, a janky charm that
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: comes with stop motion animation, and uh it, I do
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: prefer that to CGI. Certainly. I'm amazed that they didn't
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: do some sort of gag that made it feel like
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: a poking fun at Dune, considering how big a hit
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Dune has been, and just like the whole sandworm thing
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: with Dune, I'm amazed they didn't do a joke. But
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: maybe that'll end up being in the movie, who knows,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: or maybe they'll resist that urge. I hope they do.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope that the movie's surprising me too, and
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: we don't know what happens.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's other than Lydia's daughter Astrid appears to
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: not have much of a concern about her mother's warnings,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: which is pretty typical of you know, kid who's going
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: through their own kind of existential crisis. I mean, goodness,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: dos Lydia did the same thing the first film, So yeah,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: I'll be I'm eager to see it. It's I think
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I liked it more than I expected. I still feel
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: like this is a movie that they had come out
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: ten years ago, I would have been far more eager
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: to see it.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I agree.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what about the trailer for the series Phantasmas,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: which is scheduled to come out on HBO on June seven.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's for me. I think there's too
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: much literal, potty humor in it.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: There's a bit where they actually touched the water in
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: a toilet.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: There's several toilets in the trailer, and I'm like, there's
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: too much focus on toilets. It just I don't know.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: It looks bizarre and quirky and weird, and I love that,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: and I love all the guest stars they have in it.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: It just also feels like it might be a little
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: raunchy for me.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: I'm still trying to get like a handle on like,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: how surreal and dream like is this series going to be,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: because the trailer makes it look really really kind of
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: surreal to the point where it may not be able
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: to hook me just because it's not concrete enough. The
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: premise is just weird. The main character is looking for
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: a gold oyster earring and somehow these stories are a
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: result of that. And yeah, it's very dream like like
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: I said, And.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: The character has like some sort of really bizarre synesthesia.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, and they actually kind of communicate that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: about how how numbers have weight to them and that
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. Yeah, I will probably give it a shot,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: but if the first episode is so far out there
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: that I can't really feel like I've got got an
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: anchor point, I don't know that I'll stick with it.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I look forward to hearing your review because it's
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: the trailer. I watched the trailer and I almost put
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: it in our lineup, and then I was like, I
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: just don't know.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad you put it in there, and I
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: look forward to hearing your review about it, because I'll
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: probably based on whether I give it a shot, off.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: To me like if it if it feels makes me
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: feel more like it's like this is the movie equivalent
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: of a Meo Wolf exhibition that I'm like, I'm in,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: I'm ready to see it. But if it's if if
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: there's even less to grab onto than a meow wolf exhibit,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: which is not a lot, Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I mean like there's a lot to grab on at Wolf,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: but it's hard to get it in order.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's yeah, because it's I mean, that's the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: downside to it being kind of like a free flowing
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: experience where you have no idea in what order people
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: are going to encounter the story, and uh, you know,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: for some people they might encounter the story in such
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: a way that's really compelling, and other people just be
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: really frustrating. So we'll have to see. Uh. We got
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: a couple of stories here that are sort of about
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: trends and predictions for films that are going to be
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: a hit at the box office, And in one case,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: we're talking about a movie that seems to at least
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: imply that maybe people aren't so burnt out on superhero
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: films as they thought they were.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is AMC has selled more day one tickets
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: than they have for any other R.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: Rated movie already for what movie, Ariel, you have to say.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Oh do I got people can't read my mind? Steppool,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: it's Steppool and Wolverine.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so this that's been doing gangbusters business, Like
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: the whole thing of getting people to buy tickets ahead
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: of time, Like that's been a for a while now.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: It's not that big of a surprise, although I don't
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: remember it being so far out as this, Like this
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: is when it's more than a month out from when
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: the movie comes out. To me, that's a surprise.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: It's just about two months now. So it comes out
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: July twenty fifth, which is in two months tomorrow.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's to me, like that's a long lead
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: up time to buy a ticket to a movie.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: It is. And you know, like like I get it
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: because I am more excited for Deadpool and Wolverine than
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: I have been for other things. And part of that is,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: you know, Hugh Jackman's coming out of retirement as Wolverine. Yeah,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: not that the actor has retired. And it's fun and
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's novel because we get to see how
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: they poke fun at Disney, right, and like how far
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: they can push that line so I get it, and
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: I get the appeal there. I don't know if the
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: movie will hold up to all of the hype. I
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: hope it does.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and part of me thinks, like, oh, maybe I
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: should go ahead and buy a ticket, because like, I
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: don't want stuff spoiled for me for that movie. I want, like,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: if there's going to be a big surprise cameo in
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: that film, I want to be able to see it
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: and just experience it without having read about it. Thanks. Yeah, thanks,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if there's a big if there's a big
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: twist or a big reveal or a big cameo, like
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: if Robert Dunny Junior shows up as Iron Man and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: part of that movie, then I would definitely want to
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: see it, right. I would not want to hear about
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: it and then see it. So part of me is
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: wondering if I should also take the plunge and buy
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: a frickin' ticket to this movie that doesn't come out
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: for two months. But I don't always know what I'm
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: doing next week.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'm in the
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: same boat. I did see an article where they're like this,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: this MCU character makes a surprise appearance and blah blah
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: blah and this new trailer and I'm like, no, it
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: was in the first trailer, and you're fine and shut up.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: It's one of those clickit articles.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really annoying, and one.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Where one where they don't tell you who the surprise
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: cameo is until you're like five paragraphs down and you've
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: scrolled past four different ads and.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: It's barely a cameo and it was in the first
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: full trailer. So whatever, You apparently know what I'm talking about.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Un An Man. Yeah, okay, Yeah, that's clearly ant Man's
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: giant body in the trailer.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, he mentions it. But to me, saying, hey,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: we think this is going to be a really big
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: box office because of how many pre sale tickets we've
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: already sold, and being transparent about that makes a lot
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: of sense. Inside Out is also saying it's going to
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: have the biggest box office inside Out too in forever,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: except for they're not explaining how they're getting those metrics.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: So to me, that feels like they're saying, if we
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: say it, it'll happen. If we tell people it's going
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: to be the biggest box office event, people are gonna
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: be like, I can't miss it and they're gonna buy.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: T I mean, my guess is that it's similar in
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: that they're tracking pre sales, and what they're doing is
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: they're extrapolating how many ticket sales they think they're going
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: to have day of based upon how many tickets have
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: been pre sold. But that's just a guess. It's not clear.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: We're doing this from an article that was in Deadline
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: about how there's these predictions that Inside Out to is
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: trending to be this big hit for Pixar, which would
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: be a nice turnaround for the company because the last
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: couple of movies they put out have not performed super
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: well at the box office.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the only like, the only concrete information we
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: have as to how they're getting these figures, which you're right,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: it's probably those things we just don't know, is that
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: they did premiere the first thirty five minutes of Inside
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Out to a CinemaCon and apparently it got a good reception.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: But then, you know, no big surprise. Those are delightful
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: characters and Pixar's very good at animation. So the question
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: is will those delightful characters and animation translate into an
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: actual box office hit. I mean, like, was it Elemental?
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Is that what the name of the other one was? Yeah,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: like that one. The trailers look cute and everything, and
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: it felt very Inside Out meets Zootopia ish to me,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: but folks just didn't go see it.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't marketed well because they made it feel
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: very Zootopia meets Inside Out ish, and apparently that's not
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: what the story was at all, So they're they're bad
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: on that. Sometimes marketing is so dumb.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And that brings us back to the Jenny
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Nicholson video about the Star Wars Hotel and how bad
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: their marketing was for that. Yeah. I mean, I hope
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Inside Out too does well. Is not a Pixar film
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: that has me particularly excited. I'm sure it will be
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: very entertaining, but it's kind of like if they brought
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: out another Toy Story movie, which I know is another
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: one's in development now, but if they brought another Toy
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Story movie out, I'd just be like, Okay, Like the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: first two movies in the Toy Story series kind of
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: were enough for me. I thought the first one was
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: great as a joy of discovery, Like I wish I
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: could go back and watch Toy Story for the first
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: time again, because that was one of those movies where
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: it was so much fun entering into that world for
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: the first time. Toy Story two, I felt, had the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: super emotional, gut punch story of Jesse that I really enjoyed.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't hate three, but I didn't love it, and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: for I just got bored as I was watching it, so.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean, we've talked about this. I didn't
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: watch four. I think three was my favorite.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: But which is that's cool, it's necessary, that's cool. I
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: don't know. Three just didn't work for me that well.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: But but like.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Once, it's a giant chase scene.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you can only have so many fury roads
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: out there. Uh. But yeah, I think I'd be more
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: excited seeing an all new Pixar.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Good Dinosaur too.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: That's not all new, that's very old and was terrible
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: the first.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: Time Bad Dinosaur.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I can't. I can't say for sure that all new
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: one would be a hit because Good Dinosaur was a
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: thing and Elemental was a thing. But yeah, I don't know.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: I don't wish them ill, but I guess it's a
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: good thing that the box office is kind of recovering.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: I still don't think we're past where we were before
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: the pandemic, but it's definitely better than immediately after the pandemic.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Well, part of it is like we had a lull
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, and then we had a lull
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: in movies because of the writers and actors strike, and
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: now the IATZ is looming, So movies haven't really had
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: a chance to catch up, and I don't think they
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: are going to for a little bit.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I think the delay from the I
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: think the writer and actor strike stuff, I think that's
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: we still I don't think have seen the biggest gap
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: from that, because just of how long post production typically takes.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: There's probably a good gap coming up.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: We haven't seen it yet. But as actors as acting
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: community are feeling.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I'm just saying audiences probably aren't as aware yet.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, they know it's going to come. Something that
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: you might not know is coming if you go to
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: see a screening of Megalopolis, is that there's gonna be
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: a point in that movie where a real life human
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: being is gonna stand up in front of the movie
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: screen and talk to it, and it's gonna talk back.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: To them, it's one line.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't sound like it would be really that
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: big of a deal or important, and yet it's there.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: So we talked about Megalopolis in a recent episode. We
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: talked about the trailer and how it was gonna screen.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: It can and it did, And based on the things
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: I have read, it seems like the most frequent reaction
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: has been one of either I don't know what I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: just watched, or what I just watched was a bad movie,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: but I'm very much intrigued by it, or man, that
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: was a bad movie.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I've read too. I I'm sad by
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: that because there's a lot of really great actors who
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: I like who are involved in it, like Adam Driver
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: and at Aubrey Poza and I and Natalie Emmanuel. But
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: and I don't want them to be involved in a
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: project that they look back on and go, oh why,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: But it just yeah, this movie, what the heck is
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: going on?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? It kind of sounds like this is one of
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: those those cases where an auteur filmmaker is able to
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: get everything they want and it turns out that that's
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: not necessarily a good thing. I am long maintained actually
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: that sometimes constraints and restrictions are the best thing for
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: creativity because you have to find ways around them. And
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: Coppola funded this with his own money, Like he sold
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: off part of his winery in order to make this movie,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: which I mean that is a huge constraint obviously when
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: you're spending your own cash, But it meant that he
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: didn't have anyone to answer to, right, there's no studio
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: demanding he'd do things one way or another, And it
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: sounds to me like maybe that isn't the best for
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: this particular project. But as we said, like, there's even
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: a point in the movie at least there was it
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: can where an actor stood up with microphone in hand
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: and had a very brief interaction with the characters on screen,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: so that you had a live theater component to this film,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: which raises questions like would that be necessary for every
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: screening of this movie? If not, would you feel like
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: you were missing out on something? If you weren't missing
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: alan something, why was it in there in the beginning?
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine that they're going to keep that
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: in for regular Like, there's no.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: Way can you imagine can you imagine going to a
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: theater in rural Georgia and hearing someone with a rural
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Georgia accent trying to interact with these characters who are
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: inostensibly a futuristic New York city that's now called New Rome.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: It would be so weird.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And there are lots of like there's
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: a theater near me Springs Cinnamon Tap that does a
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: lot of like interactive fun stuff with movie hosts and
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: things like that. One of those people, a lot of
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: them are afters. A lot of them people that you
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: and I mutually know. But you know, you can do
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: that for a screening or two, but not every screening
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: for every day, although the movie's very long, so maybe
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: you could only play it twice a day.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. I recommend checking out some reviews of this
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: film written by people who attended the screening and can
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: just to kind of kind of hear what their impressions were,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: because since neither of us have seen it, we can't
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: give you our opinion. We can only pass along that
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: other people have said that it was real weird and
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: that I didn't come across anyone who actually liked it.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: I think there might have been a few people who
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: appreciated the audacity of it. But that's not the same
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: thing as enjoying the movie.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Vogue article that you linked to
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: this show note gives a really good, thoughtful review of
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: what they saw.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and in that case, the person who saw it,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: they enjoyed the experience. They didn't like the movie, but
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: they found the experience of watching the movie somewhat entertaining,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: particularly based upon how the people around her were reacting
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: to the movie.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So once I am finally able to sit
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: down and update the website, hopefully over this long weekend,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: you will be able to. I mean, you can look
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  Speaker 1: it up on Vogue, you all know how to google.
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  Speaker 1: But I will include it in our show notes on
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  Speaker 1: our website www dot Larger Drunk Collider. I could probably
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  Speaker 1: speculate about this movie for a lot more time, like
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  Speaker 1: is it going to beat out Soccer Punch for the
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  Speaker 1: movie that I like watching the least? Or Children of
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  Speaker 1: Men but.
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  Speaker 2: Still a great movie.
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  Speaker 1: Soccer Punch.
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  Speaker 2: No, Children of Men. I know that you and I
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  Speaker 2: have a fundamental disagreement about that movie, and.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine, But but this has been another epic episode.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, we're gonna We're gonna sign off and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to get myself some nappy time that.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably for the best and out of consideration for you, Ariel,
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