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The DiCecco Daily: Former Eagles Pro Bowl TE Chad Lewis Reflects On Helping Birds Get To 2004 Super Bowl · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to part two of my special two part
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  Speaker 1: to check with the daily Discussion with former Eagles tight
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  Speaker 1: end Chad Lewis. In part one, we heard great stories
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  Speaker 1: of Chad's rise from a walk on at BYU into
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  Speaker 1: becoming an NFL player and Super Bowl champ with the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: In Part two, we get into Chad's emergence into a
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  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl tight end for the Eagles under Andy Reid.
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  Speaker 1: You'll love his stories and memories. Now let's get to
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  Speaker 1: part two. In two thousand, you experienced a breakthrough. You
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  Speaker 1: had sixty nine catches, seven hundred and thirty five yards
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  Speaker 1: and three touchdowns. Chad, what click for you?
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  Speaker 2: It was the relationship on the field I had with Donovan,
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  Speaker 2: running good routes, being a friendly target for him. We
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  Speaker 2: had Duce Daley in the backfield, Charles Johnson as one
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  Speaker 2: of our number one wide receivers. Every quarterback needs a
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  Speaker 2: tight end, and I was a friendly spot for Donovan.
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  Speaker 2: I got to where he could trust me running routes.
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  Speaker 2: I felt like I was always on the same page
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  Speaker 2: with him on where he wanted my depth on my
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  Speaker 2: routse to be. And that was key for me. I
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  Speaker 2: always wanted to be on the same page as him.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to know where he was comfortable with me
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  Speaker 2: in the offense, and I tried tried my butt off
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  Speaker 2: to get there and to be there, to be dependable.
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  Speaker 2: And that was a key thing. Like that relationship. What
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  Speaker 2: else was key and just as important as Andy Reid's
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  Speaker 2: confidence in me as a player, as a tight end,
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  Speaker 2: as a leader on the team, in the locker room,
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  Speaker 2: even even with my past of being a free agent
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  Speaker 2: and bouncing around. He knew something about what was inside
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  Speaker 2: of me and plugged me in and kept giving me confidence.
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  Speaker 2: As we you know, turned it around from a five
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  Speaker 2: win team to you know, a really good team. Our
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  Speaker 2: defense was incredible, so Jim Johnson was he was on
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  Speaker 2: the same page with Andy and turned that thing into
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  Speaker 2: an unbelievable defense. And our offense with Rod Dawhouer and
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  Speaker 2: then through the years different coordinators, Brad Childress, Marty morning Wegg,
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  Speaker 2: we were a tough offense. We wanted to be tough
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  Speaker 2: to be beat. And from the beginning it was it
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  Speaker 2: was building a good relationship with Donovan to where he
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  Speaker 2: knew if he chucked it, I was going to go
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  Speaker 2: catch it, and I was going to do whatever I
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  Speaker 2: could to catch it, and that's what happened. And I
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  Speaker 2: thought we made really good music together. I thought we
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  Speaker 2: always had a really good relationship on and off the field.
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  Speaker 2: He was a spectacular athlete. He he had a drive
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  Speaker 2: was phenomenal because he combined it with his athletic ability.
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  Speaker 2: He was one of the strongest players on our whole team.
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  Speaker 3: He loved to lift, and his ability to help turn
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  Speaker 3: that team, an organization and city around that was phenomenal.
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  Speaker 2: Just for that, I want him to be put in
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  Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. And then you put all of
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  Speaker 2: his numbers on top of that, I think Donovan should
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  Speaker 2: be in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look you look at his numbers and how that
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  Speaker 1: stacks up. You could certainly make a case for that.
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  Speaker 1: But one thing that I always remember about you, Chad,
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  Speaker 1: is your knack for coming up with really challenging catches
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  Speaker 1: over the middle, really dependable hands. And Donovan throws a fastball.
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  Speaker 1: Throw a fastball. So was there anything you had to
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  Speaker 1: do in terms of your training regimen to prepare for that?
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  Speaker 1: Did you catch x amount of balls out of the
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  Speaker 1: judge machine or did you have any take any measures
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  Speaker 1: to be able to really dial that in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not only did I catch balls off the jugs
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  Speaker 2: to prepare for Donovan's speed, Like he came off the mound,
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  Speaker 2: he could throw, he could throw heaters. I bought a
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  Speaker 2: drugs machine and I put it in my garage at
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  Speaker 2: home in Utah, and I had all my neighborhood, all
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  Speaker 2: the kids in my neighborhood pumping me balls from the
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  Speaker 2: drugs machine. So when I was at home, I turned
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  Speaker 2: that Dugs machine up to Donovan McNab speed and I
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  Speaker 2: caught balls all off season so that I would be
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  Speaker 2: prepared for that speed to catch those balls. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that was very helpful for me. Catching extra balls
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  Speaker 2: and practice from him was helpful. I think all of
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  Speaker 2: us as a team, we were extremely hungry, I mean hungry.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted to win a Super Bowl. We wanted to
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  Speaker 2: turn that city around, We wanted to be winners. There
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  Speaker 2: was definitely a hunger on that team. There was a fight,
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  Speaker 2: there was we had it, and we were you know,
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  Speaker 2: everyone knows we were this close to going to force
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowls. We went to four straight NCY championships and
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  Speaker 2: then finally beat the Falcons one to the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: got beat by the Patriots, but we had a we
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  Speaker 2: had a great squad. We had a very tight knit,
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  Speaker 2: great chemistry team for several years. It was fun to
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  Speaker 2: play with that, that group of guys. And same thing
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  Speaker 2: with the coaching staff. I felt like we were tight
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  Speaker 2: and from that coaching staff, It's amazing how many head
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  Speaker 2: coaches bounced out of there. And you know, when I
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  Speaker 2: was playing, it was Bill Walsh's tree. That was this
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  Speaker 2: amazing coaching tree, and then you know, that same thing
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  Speaker 2: happened with Andy Reid. It was it was phenomenal how
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  Speaker 2: many of those guys had an opportunity to go be coaches.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, John Harbaugh won a Super Bowl with
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  Speaker 2: the with the Baltimore Ravens, and but all those guys,
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  Speaker 2: Uh what what a phenomenal group of coaches and players. Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Now would you train with Donovan in the offseason?
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  Speaker 1: Would you go to Arizona to kind of get that
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  Speaker 1: poor you know, amplified even more?
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  Speaker 2: No, I wish I did. Looking back on, I wish
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  Speaker 2: I would have gone. You know, at least a week
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  Speaker 2: or two every year. We would always come back and
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  Speaker 2: start early together in Philly. So March twenty first or
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  Speaker 2: before that, we were together in Philly throwing balls. And
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  Speaker 2: then he spent a good amount of time in Arizona
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  Speaker 2: and he had he had a bunch of dudes down
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  Speaker 2: there training And this was kind of before. Like right now,
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  Speaker 2: you see the tight end for the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 2: George Kittle gathering tight ends around the country. It's easy
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  Speaker 2: with social media now, you know, social media changed everything.
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  Speaker 2: But he's getting all the tight ends together. I wish
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  Speaker 2: that I was with Donovan down in Arizona, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to do it, to do it over again, I would
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  Speaker 2: have taken, you know, a week every year at least
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  Speaker 2: and gone and trained with him down there and spend
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  Speaker 2: time that way. But I felt like we were spending
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  Speaker 2: so much time together in Philly through the off season
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  Speaker 2: that we had that rapport. I was personally very comfortable
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  Speaker 2: with how that thing was working, where I was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be, how he was throwing. But looking back, I
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  Speaker 2: would have loved to have gone down for a week
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  Speaker 2: or two each year and been with him, been with
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  Speaker 2: him there.
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  Speaker 1: What's your favorite memory from Veterans Stadium. I've heard Brad
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  Speaker 1: Child just tell me some interesting stories in the past. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: is there a memory that comes to mind for you?
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  Speaker 2: For me when I think of Veterans Stadium. Look, it
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  Speaker 2: was a tough place to play for every opposing team
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  Speaker 2: that came in there. Like we made it a difficult place,
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  Speaker 2: and then the Philadelphia crowd made it an incredibly difficult place.
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  Speaker 2: The turf at veter Stadium made it tough on everyone.
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  Speaker 2: I was included. But it was my rookie year playing
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  Speaker 2: the Cowboys Sunday night football in the rain. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: even really playing that game. And we get down, there's
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  Speaker 2: one minute left. We're on the eight yard line, and
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  Speaker 2: John Gruden calls me into the game. He's up in
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  Speaker 2: the headset. Ted Williams is on the he's John Gruden's upstairs.
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  Speaker 2: Ted Williams is down with the headset on. And they
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  Speaker 2: called cougar chad personnel, and so Ted looks at me,
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  Speaker 2: He's like you, And so I ran out on the field.
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  Speaker 2: I'm nervous, the clock's taken down. A run into the huddle.
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  Speaker 2: Rodney Pete at that year, we'd gone from Ty Edward
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  Speaker 2: to Rodney Peach to Ti Deedverard, back to Rodney Pete
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  Speaker 2: and then Bobby Hoying to finish the year. So Rodney
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  Speaker 2: looked at me in the eyes and he called my
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  Speaker 2: players red right f left three twenty two wistick nod,
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  Speaker 2: and he's just staring at me the whole way, like, bro,
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  Speaker 2: I'm coming to you. It was the perfect call for
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  Speaker 2: a wet, rainy day because it was a double move
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  Speaker 2: route by me as a tight end, and the strong
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  Speaker 2: safety was Omar Stautmeyer for the Cowboys. He played at
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  Speaker 2: Fresno State. He was there because he was a great hitter,
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  Speaker 2: great tackler, super tough guy. Covering people was not like
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  Speaker 2: his greatest strength. He was a great tackler, and so
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  Speaker 2: when I ran a double move, he came down to
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  Speaker 2: cover me. He came down really hard and then slipped
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  Speaker 2: on the wet turf and I cut back inside. I
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  Speaker 2: was wide open. Rodney hit me touchdown, beat the Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: that moment in Veterans Stadium, and that was my moment.
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  Speaker 2: And I threw the ball U from the stands. Got
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  Speaker 2: a fine for it, two five hundred bucks for throwing
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  Speaker 2: a ball in the stands, and the crowd's going crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going crazy, Eagles going crazy. We beat the Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: the game before, we let one slip away. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we muffed a field goal on the four yard line
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  Speaker 2: with a couple seconds ago, and we didn't beat them.
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  Speaker 2: And so this time to be able to beat the
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys arrival at home in the rain, and to be
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  Speaker 2: a part of that. I knew that I was going
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  Speaker 2: to be on the team the next week. I knew
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  Speaker 2: that good things were happening in my career, that I
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  Speaker 2: was able to help our team, you know, make a
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  Speaker 2: play in a crucial time. That was my memory of
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  Speaker 2: Veteran Stadium. So when I think of the vet that's
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  Speaker 2: what I think of.
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  Speaker 1: I have another one for you, And for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: this game sticks out vividly in my memory. December thirtieth,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and one. You had two touchdowns in this game.
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  Speaker 1: It was Eagles Giants, and then five or six seconds
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  Speaker 1: left in the game, Kerry Collins throws to Tiki Barber,
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  Speaker 1: who throws it to Ron Dixon who heads up that
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  Speaker 1: left sideline. What are your memories from that game?
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  Speaker 2: Chat? Oh? Shoot, I wanted to tackle that dude, Please
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  Speaker 2: stop and please stop it. I think it was Damon
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  Speaker 2: Moore that stopped him and you know, save the game
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  Speaker 2: for us. I could not believe it. That was nuts,
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  Speaker 2: But that game was big. Michael Barrow was their middle linebacker.
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  Speaker 2: He was great player. He could cover the run, he
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  Speaker 2: could cover the pass. On both of my touchdowns, I
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  Speaker 2: believe he was guarding me, especially the second one. He was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he was draped all over me and i'd
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  Speaker 2: just been Sam Garns or strong safety poked me in
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  Speaker 2: the eye in the third quarter, and I was having
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  Speaker 2: like real blurry vision, and I was praying on the sidelines,
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  Speaker 2: like please let me see this ball. Like so when
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  Speaker 2: I went in similar about on the eight yard line
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  Speaker 2: and the same route, why stick nod Donovan threw that
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  Speaker 2: thing and I was well covered. Michael Barrow was he was,
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  Speaker 2: I was wearing him. And I turned back and I
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  Speaker 2: saw this brown laser beam coming from Donovan. It was
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  Speaker 2: just like all I saw was a little bit of color.
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  Speaker 2: It was brown, and it was heading for my face.
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  Speaker 2: Then I turned and I put my hands up and
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  Speaker 2: it just stuck like on my face mask and on
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  Speaker 2: my hands and I fell to the ground with that ball.
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  Speaker 2: It was that was something else. Freddy Mitchell came over
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  Speaker 2: and you know, he was pointing at Michael Barrow and
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  Speaker 2: and we were all just celebrating, like that was such
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  Speaker 2: a big moment. We I think it was the first
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  Speaker 2: time we won the division in a while. That was
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  Speaker 2: that was so much fun. Uh. I remember that game.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it on video through the years. It was
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  Speaker 2: important to our team to get over that hump to
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  Speaker 2: beat the Giants. I think, uh that was a tough rivalry.
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  Speaker 2: That was a big win, and as a team like that,
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  Speaker 2: that was a good one. That was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Was there a particular linebacker or even a safety that
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  Speaker 1: you feel gave me the most trouble throughout your career?
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I was. I was impressed with so many players,
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  Speaker 2: like I thought. I thought Lynch from the Buccaneers was
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  Speaker 2: really tough. You know, John Lynch was smart, he was
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  Speaker 2: really physical. He was he was the leader of that team.
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  Speaker 2: They were Super Bowl champs. I got to know him
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  Speaker 2: at the Pro Bowl. He was really good. Michael Barrow
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  Speaker 2: Giants linebacker, I thought he was he was really tough,
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  Speaker 2: he played with he was a good athlete. I thought
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  Speaker 2: Michael strahan Is a defensive defensive end, was a complete beast.
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  Speaker 2: There were there were so many good players through the years.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was one of the best parts about
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  Speaker 2: playing in the NFL is you're going against the best
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  Speaker 2: players in the world, the best players in the world
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  Speaker 2: who were getting better each year, dedicated to their craft,
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  Speaker 2: watching tape on you, and you had to watch tape
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  Speaker 2: on them. You had to look for tiny little things
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  Speaker 2: that would give you the edge to beat him. And
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  Speaker 2: I loved, I loved the whole thing. The chess match
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  Speaker 2: with their defensive coordinator, the chess match with their individual players,
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  Speaker 2: their talents, and then our own confidence and our own
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  Speaker 2: will to beat them and to prepare to beat them.
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  Speaker 2: I thought our coaches. I thought our coaches were amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Reid's staff put us in a great position week
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  Speaker 2: after week to be successful, and the confidence I felt
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  Speaker 2: like year after year just grew. And so that was
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  Speaker 2: fun to play the best players in the world. And
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  Speaker 2: I thought we had the best team in the world.
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  Speaker 2: And I just wish we had a couple of Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl rings to show for it.
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  Speaker 1: So you serve as Donovan's safety blanket, reliable red zone
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  Speaker 1: presence all through the golden years of Andy Reid, and
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  Speaker 1: you get to the top of the mountain and you fall.
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  Speaker 1: Just sure, I should say up the top of the
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  Speaker 1: mountain two thousand and one, two three, But two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and four was different. Chad, it must have meant a
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  Speaker 1: lot to you to be able to go into that
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  Speaker 1: game against the Falcons, come out victorious and get that
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  Speaker 1: proverbial monkey off your back. What are your memories going
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  Speaker 1: into going into that game and then finally conquering that man?
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  Speaker 2: My memories going into that game. I just felt good
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  Speaker 2: about it. It snowed a foot of snow the night
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  Speaker 2: before the game, and we were excuse me, you were pumped.
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  Speaker 2: We were pumped to play them. Our defense wanted to
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  Speaker 2: rise up last beat Michael Vick. He was a fantastic
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  Speaker 2: superstar player. And uh there were a couple of shots
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  Speaker 2: that that we put on Michael Vick as a defense
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  Speaker 2: to slow him down. I know Brian Dawkins had a
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  Speaker 2: shout on Crumpler, they're tight end. That was just just amazing, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how he even got up, And as
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  Speaker 2: a team, we were bound to determine that was that
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  Speaker 2: was our game, that was our time. And if catching
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  Speaker 2: the touchdown to beat the Cowboys was my memory of
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  Speaker 2: the VET, it was catching the touchdowns to help beat
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  Speaker 2: the Falcons. That is my memory of the Link. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for that experience, that opportunity. I'm bummed
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  Speaker 2: that my Liz Frank popped. I'm bummed that I was
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  Speaker 2: not able to play in the Super Bowl, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: so proud that I was able to play with my
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  Speaker 2: team give it all I had, help us beat the Falcons,
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  Speaker 2: win the NFC Championship at home and send the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl. Like that memory that time, the feeling,
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  Speaker 2: the chemistry of our team, the brotherhood that we all felt,
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  Speaker 2: the funny things that we had going on t o
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  Speaker 2: Coming on that team and being such a sensational impact
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  Speaker 2: for that team that year was so much fun, like
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing. Just loved every part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you put a bow on that with your touchdown
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  Speaker 1: in that game at the end. Could you take me
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  Speaker 1: through what you remember from that play. I remember you
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  Speaker 1: celebrating on the ground. Obviously you couldn't stand up, but
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  Speaker 1: it was a moment looking back that that was pretty
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  Speaker 1: Vito and Eagle's lore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we threw a big pass to Greg Lewis to
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  Speaker 2: get down the field. We got to about the three
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  Speaker 2: yard line and Andy called a play action passed to
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  Speaker 2: the corner of the end zone, and I just knew
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  Speaker 2: it was gonna be another touchdown and I'd caught one
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  Speaker 2: earlier in the game, same end zone, same type of play.
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  Speaker 2: This time, as I ran, Donovan threw it to my
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  Speaker 2: back shoulder. When I turned to catch it, my foot
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  Speaker 2: just popped and I felt something just this amazing release
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  Speaker 2: of energy just go boom in my foot. And when
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  Speaker 2: I fell to the ground, I knew that we were
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  Speaker 2: going to the super Bowl. Time stood still for me.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, this is so sweep, but I knew
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  Speaker 2: that my foot was broken. I knew that, like something
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  Speaker 2: just happened. I couldn't I couldn't immediately tell I just
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  Speaker 2: I just sat on the ground and I celebrate for
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  Speaker 2: a second. And I did have another divine moment. I
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  Speaker 2: talked about getting answered to my prayer in college to
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  Speaker 2: walk on. I had an absolutely divine moment where I
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  Speaker 2: had so much peace sitting there as time stood still
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  Speaker 2: for me, I knew that God had me in his arms.
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  Speaker 2: My dad had given me a blessing the night before,
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  Speaker 2: you know, right before the game, because I had an
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  Speaker 2: injury in my tricep the week before in the Vikings game.
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  Speaker 2: And I just had this calm feeling come over me,
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  Speaker 2: and it felt like it lasted for several seconds. But
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  Speaker 2: it was just an instant and this calm feeling. I
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  Speaker 2: knew what that calm feeling was. It was that feeling
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  Speaker 2: I had when my dad my brothers surrounded me gave
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  Speaker 2: me a blessing. I knew that, I knew that God
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  Speaker 2: was with me. I knew that everything was going to
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  Speaker 2: be okay. But I was not going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to play in the Super Bowl. And so when I
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  Speaker 2: rolled over, I sat there and I did think I
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  Speaker 2: could stand up. I was like, oh my gosh, you know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I celebrated through the ball just from my seated position,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: and then LJ. Smith ran over and he picked me up.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: When he picked me up, I said, LJ. I just
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: broke my foot. He's like what and I was like, yeah, shoot.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: And then I kind of hobbled over and I lined
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: up as the wing for the at and I couldn't
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: squad down to get my position as the wing, so
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I called a time out, and who calls the time out?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: During the extra point? It was nuts and Andy was
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: looking at me and he's like, what are you doing?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: And I hobbled off the field and I was like, coach,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I just broke my foot. And I was walking on
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the side of my foot. I couldn't walk normal, and
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: he was like, are you sure. I said, yeah, I
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: heard it pop and he's like, crap. And I want
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: to get the NFL films audio. You know they got
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: the microphones on the sidelines. I want to get that audio.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: And hear that conversation again. I went to the sideline,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: sat down brick Burke Holder. The train came over and
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: took off my shoe, took off my sock, grabbed my
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: big toe and it was as if my toe just
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: came apart from my foot. That was the feeling I had.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: And Bobby had already popped his his lis Frank Duce
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: had popped his list. Frank, so I knew the injury.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: And as soon as he pushed on the middle of
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: my foot, he looked up at me like, oh my gosh,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: and instantly I knew. I was like, I tore my list, Frank,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: and he said, hey, we got to take you in
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and get next ray. And I was like, now I'm
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: staying right here. I'll go in after the game. Let's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: put my shoe back on. I'll just stand here with
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: my guys. And so that's what happened. Put my sock
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: shoe on stood up. I remember grabbing Freddie Mitchell. It's
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: on video and I was like, Freddie, I just broke
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: my foot. He's like, what, No, you didn't break your foot.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, I broke it. Like my mind was
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: like in so many different places. And we got the
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: ball back, took a knee. Game over. You know, we're
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: storming out on the field, and I remember Fox Sports
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: interviewing me and my wife was sitting on the front
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: row of the south end zone. As soon as I
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: caught the touchdown, she went down into the tunnel. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: then when the game was over, she ran on the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: field and so as I'm getting interviewed by Fox, she
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: jumped on me. She was like celebrating. I was like, Michelle,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I just broke my foot, and she was like what.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: When I said when I caught the touchdown, she was like,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I saw the play. I didn't see you get hurt.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I said, I know, it just it just happened. Then
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: my brother Dave, he was next. He came running across
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the field and jumped on me and I said the
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: same thing, it just broke my foot. And he's like, oh,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: you're going to play in the Super Bowl. I'm like, no, Dave,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not and it was it was humbling. I went
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: into the locker room, celebrated with my teammates. I didn't
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: really tell anyone. I told Donovan. I definitely talked to
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Andy about it. I just wanted the Eagles to celebrate
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: that win that night, that we're going to the super Bowl.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And I went in. I gotta. I got an x
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: ray and the x ray was conclusive that I tore
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: My Lis Brank. Uh. That was tough. My family all
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: came in the locker room. We were together, we said
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a prayer together, we were we were smiling, laughing, crying together.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: It was like, you gotta be kidding. Andy came over.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: He's like, shoot, man, are you kidding me? I said, well,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: at least at least you went out on top, you know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you went out with a bang. He was really cool
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: in that moment. Donovan was cool. And Uh. I called
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Jeff Thomas and he was my backup before, and I said, Jeff,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta call Andy, let him know you're
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: in shape. You got to take my place and go
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: to the super Bowl. He's like, what happened? I said,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I tore My Lis prank and uh, I'm not gonna
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: be able to play, And so that's what happened. He
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: called Andy, he called Tom Melvin, the tight ends coach,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: and they brought him in for a workout, signed him.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: He played in the Super Bowl. I was so happy
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: for him, like, what a stud. But that's just one
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: of those things, like why did that happen? Right then?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Doing a catch that I'd made my whole life a
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: million times. I know when I get to Heaven, one
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: of the questions I'll ask, is, Hey, how come that
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: happened in that game? Right then? I'm sure it's all
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: going to make sense at that point. I've never cried
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: about it. I've always felt a great measure of peace
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: about it. That, Hey, that was that was just meant
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: to be. It's part of the game. It was a
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: wild injury at a critical moment. It's helped me realize
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: how important my family is to me. Like I wanted
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: to play in the Super Bowl. I want to be
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: the MVP of the Super Bowl. I wanted to drive
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: away in the truck. But more than the truck was
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: the realization that this family mine who's supported me through
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: thick and thin and been with me they are my
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: super Bowl and going forward from from two thousand and
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: four it was February two thousand and five. That's a
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: great realization. You know how important my family is to me,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: and you know, I gotta do as much as I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: can to always honor them.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I know the game didn't go the way you were
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Eagles fans watching would have liked, but I have to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: imagine your story is so unique. That you were there
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: from the very beginning of Andy Reid start to get
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to that point, knowing you played such a pivotal role,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that Super Bowl experience must have been really validating for
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: you standing there watching everything, or maybe not standing there
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: because of the foot, but the moment must have been
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: extra special for someone like yourself.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: It was so special. Andy wanted me up in the box,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and I was like, Hey, I'm not going in the box.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I'm coming on the locker room. He's like, no, you can't.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be on the sideline. He's like, no,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you can't sit on the sideline. You're you're in harm's
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: way down there. Just go up in the box and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that's where the injured players are going to be. And
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, no, Like, just give me this. Just
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: give me this. I want to sit with my teammates.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I'll be I'll sit out of the way, sit on
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the equipment boxes, I don't care. I'll be out of
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: everyone's way, but I want to be down there. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: had two screws that were put on my foot a
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: couple of days before, and he allowed me to sit
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: on the sidelines, and I stayed out of everyone's way.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: It was good to be there. Tough, tough thing to lose,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: to get beat by the Patriots. They were a good team,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: they were great opponent. I was. I was so proud
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: of our guys, how everyone played and fought. I wanted
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I wanted to win that baby. I thought t O
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: had an amazing game. I thought we were close, just
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: came up a little short. And but that was cool
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to be able to see that whole transition, you know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: as Andy got there and turn that thing around. That
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: was quite a bride love being a part of that
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: whole thing.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Well, when did you realize that it was over for
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you in terms of your career.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't know after that if I would play again.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I knew how difficult it was to come back from
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a Liz prank, and so I started rehabbing really strong
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: in the off season, not knowing if I would come back.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: My mission president from Taiwan, his name is Kent Watson.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: He called me out of the blue and said, hey,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I want to come by your house. I'm like, okay.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: He came to my house and he had a USA
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Today article of a USA ski jumper who she was doing,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you know, aerials, laying on the ground. She popped her
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Liz prank. She came back and competed again. He handed
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: me that article and he's like, you need to play
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: football again. And I was like, I think I'm good.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I think I'm probably going to retire. He's like, no,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: you need to play again. You need to rehab your foot,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: and if you can get to where you can play again,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: you can get to that level again. You're gonna have
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a good foot for the rest of your life. And
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I felt the wisdom in what he was saying, and
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I was like, you're right, I gotta go back. And
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that's when I stepped up my rehab. I was surprised
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: how much it hurt to run on my foot after
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: they took the screws out. I had scar tissue in there,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: and to get my foot going again took a lot
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: of work, and I went back. I think it was
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: week and nine. I went back to the Eagles. They
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: had some injuries and Rick burke Holder, the trainer, had
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: been calling me all year. He's like, hey, can you play.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: I was like, I still haven't run. Call me the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: next week, Hey can you play? And finally about week
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: nine he's like, hey, this is it. Like, if it's
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: going to happen, it's now or never. And so I
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: went back. I had really good workout. We played the
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Cowboys that week. I think it was his Monday Night football.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: John Madden was on the telecast. I caught a pass
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: up the left sideline and ran for about twenty yards
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: or something, and he was just saying great stuff. The
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: crowd gave me a standing ovation because I was back.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Felt so good to be back. Right at the end
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: of the game, there was an interception. Donovan tried to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: make the tackle, ended up tearing his groin, got a
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: sports hernia. He was done for the season. I thought
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: we were gonna run it back and go to the
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl that year. That was really tough. I finished
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: that year and when I walked off the field after
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the last game. I felt in my heart like that
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: was my time to go. I was thirty four, thirty
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: five years old. I didn't want to have another major injury.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I was grateful for everything that happened, and that's what
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I chose to do, is retire. At that time I
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: talked to Andy and my exit physical I'll just told
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: him thank you and that was probably it for me,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: and he just thanked me and then said, if you
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: want to play, let me know, give me a call.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Like so that's how it ended for me. It just
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: rode off into the sunset, came back here as you tah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: got a job and live down Hey.
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  Speaker 1: And I appreciate you being so gracious with your time chat.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I could talk football with you all day, but in
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the interest of time for you and may I want
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to allow you a moment to really bring the audience
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: up to speed with what you've been up to and
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: some of your ventures.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I've been working at BYU in the Athletic department for
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: fifteen years. Now. I'm the director of the fundraising team,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: so I help coordinate all the donations to the Athletic
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: department at BYU for the sports and now I'm also
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: the sported minute straighter for men's and women's golf and
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: men's and women's volleyball. And it's been a fun job.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Tom Homo was the athletic director who hired me. He's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: a guy who played safety for the forty nine Ers,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: had three Super Bowl rings as a player and one
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl ring as a coach. There so four super
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Bowl rings. We were always on the same page. His
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: number two guy, Brian Santiago, is now the athletic director
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of BYU, and we've had tons of momentum. It's been
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: fun to work with the football team, the coaches, the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: head coach, Colonie Satake as a former teammate of mine
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: at BYU. Great friend. I've been so thrilled for his
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: success and his goodness, what he represents, how he treats people,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: and to be back part of the game, being able
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: to help the student athletes like Richie Saunders is our
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: superstar basketball player. He's going to go to the NBA.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: He just tour his acoup days ago really disappointing, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I was able to share some messages with him of
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I know what it's like to get an injury right
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: before something really important. Mine was the Super Bowl. His
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: is he wants to go to the NBA Draft, and
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I just felt like it was important to send him
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: a couple of pages of my book. I wrote a
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: book called Surround Yourself with Greatness, and I included that
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: experience of tearing on Liz Frank and how just a
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: memory of that. I shared him a couple of those pages,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: and Richie just said, hey, you got a copy of
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: your book, And I said, yeah, I'll bring about tomorrow.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to meet up with him today, give
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: him my book, talk to him about he has surgery
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: on his acl tomorrow. I feel like in my life
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: I've had a good, good experiences that I can now
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: share with with Richie and other guys to help them
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: as they're chasing their dreams. So it's been a really
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: valuable thing for me to be back at BYU, not
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: only my alma mater, but a place that tries to
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: do what I was doing as a missionary, share the
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: message of Jesus Christ. We do that through sports. We
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: try and represent the best we can, and it's been
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: really cool to be back there to be a part
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: of it. So thanks for letting me talk about like
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Uncle Rico from Napoleon Dynamite, all the old times, but
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: also what's happening right now too. I appreciate Eagles fans
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: because they care more than anyone. They've been so good
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: to me through the years. I love them and thank
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: you very much. Andrew. Oh, it was a blast chat.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I see a football over your
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: right shoulder. That's in the cabinet there.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: What game is that? From that one right there was
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Eagles Redskins two thousand and three NFC East Division champs.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Coach wanted all of us to have that game. I
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: do have a bunch of football's lying around the touchdown
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: in the to beat the Giants. I'll grab that. I
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: put on there, like the name of the play three
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: twenty two wise stick nod. I put my Chinese name
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: on there, lou Galway in the date. But that was
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the Michael Barrow New York Giants win the division touchdown ball.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: That's sweet to look it up.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that the Damon More game.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: That was the Damon morg great picture right there of
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Jeff Thomasin and Mike Bartram. Those guys gave me this
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: and on the bottom, I don't know if you can
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: read it, but it says, when the character of a
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: man is not clear to you, look at his friends
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and I love that. This is something that means a
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: lot to me. This hung in the Eagles facility for years,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: and after I was hurt, Donovan pulled it off the
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: wall and he just ripped this thing off the wall
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and he signed it and he sent it to me
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and it's been in my office ever since. That's awesome. Yeah,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: great teammate, great coaches, great franchise we had. That was
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. I love going back and watching games,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and Jeffrey Larry's been great to me. Howie Roseman has
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: been great to me when I go back and they'll
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: let me go to practice and just hang around. Feels good,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: feels like a home to me.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope I get to see you this summer
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: if you're around around for training camp. Would love to
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: introduce myself in person. But it's been a blast talking
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: to you, Chad, going down memory lane and really allowing
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you to share your story. I think it's something that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: resonates with a lot of people who grew up watching
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you play, and so thanks for carving out a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you so much for having me
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  Speaker 2: on talking Eagles football. Baby.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, So that's gonna do it. For this edition of
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  Speaker 1: The Checko Daily for Chad Lewis, I'm Andrew de Checko
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  Speaker 1: and I'll catch you all on the next one. That
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  Speaker 1: concludes our two part podcast series with Chad Lewis. Truly
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  Speaker 1: a great Eagles story special thanks to Chad for being
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  Speaker 1: so gracious with his time, and I hope you all
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed the stories and memories as much as I did.
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  Speaker 1: I'll continue to do more lookbacks with former Eagles throughout
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  Speaker 1: the year. Please email me with your thoughts or feedback
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  Speaker 1: at Inside the Birds at gmail dot com. You've been
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  Speaker 1: listening to The Checko Daily on Inside the Birds