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NEW: Harry And Meghan Change Kids’ School Over Security Concerns, As UK Reconsiders Sussex’s Security Status · I Do, Part 2

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It's Tuesday, September 15th, and Harry and
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Meghan just can't catch a break. Now it's their kids
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: that can't even catch a break. They just had their
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: first day of school. It was also their last day
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: at that school. And with that, welcome to this episode
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. How many actual days were separated
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: the first day of school for the little prince and princess?
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: And their last day at that school, it was a
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: matter of what? Two days. Two days.
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  Speaker 2: They had two days at their new school. Think about
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  Speaker 2: these poor little kids. I'm serious. I know they're poor
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: little prince and princess, but it is a very traumatic
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  Speaker 2: thing to do a big move to a different country,
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  Speaker 2: all new people. They sound different. They look different. You're
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  Speaker 2: told you're related to them. And you get to your
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: new school. And you're like, okay, I'm going to get
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: settled here. Kindergarten, what would it be? Kindergarten and second grade?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it in the UK,
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  Speaker 2: but that seems like that would be their ages. And yes,
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  Speaker 2: and so you're excited. You're meeting your new classmates, your
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: new teachers, and all of a sudden, whammo, got to
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: go to a new school again. What?
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  Speaker 1: Every parent can relate to this. It doesn't matter. When you...
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  Speaker 1: When you have to move towns, you're so upset about
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  Speaker 1: what that does to your kid and their friend circle.
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  Speaker 1: And then they have to start a new school and
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  Speaker 1: what that does to be the new kid somewhere, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I do. This one kind of breaks my heart for
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  Speaker 1: the kids.
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  Speaker 2: It is so sad. Look, I had to do, it
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  Speaker 2: was the middle of sixth grade. I went from St.
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  Speaker 2: Louis to Atlanta. That was a culture shock for me
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  Speaker 2: right there. And I still to this day remember, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I spent two weeks of just feeling sick and scared
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  Speaker 2: and it just, It's a big deal for a kid
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  Speaker 2: to have to switch around like that and to have
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  Speaker 2: to adjust after just two days. And when you hear
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  Speaker 2: the reason why, it's kind of baffling. So this is
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  Speaker 2: coming from their camp. But apparently the distance between where
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  Speaker 2: they're living and where this school is, they thought it
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  Speaker 2: was going to be about a 45-minute, I guess, distance
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  Speaker 2: or something with heavy traffic. But they say that they
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: were staying in too much distance stagnant traffic which created
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  Speaker 2: too big of a threat for the kids the convoys
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  Speaker 2: weren't able to stick together or the convoy couldn't stick
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  Speaker 2: together and so they had to abort because just the
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  Speaker 2: logistics of where the house is and where the school
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  Speaker 2: was did not jibe with their security team okay how
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  Speaker 2: did they not plan that out better.
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  Speaker 1: That seems really odd babe that a security detail wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: do that again don't want to criticize and we don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the circumstances are but roll just one of
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  Speaker 1: the first things security details do getting from point a
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  Speaker 1: to point b what is the route we're going to
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  Speaker 1: take what are the traffic patterns i just don't know
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  Speaker 1: robes a lot of planning has been going into them
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  Speaker 1: being at this school how you're going to get there
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  Speaker 1: every day and how you're going to get home it's
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  Speaker 1: thing one once they're in school should be fine What, Robes,
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  Speaker 1: how was this missed that this is so disruptive? We
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  Speaker 1: have to pull you out of school because we didn't
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  Speaker 1: know the traffic pattern?
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  Speaker 2: I know, that seems crazy. Look, I will say, when
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: school started back here in New York City last week,
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  Speaker 2: I forgot it was the first day of school. And
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  Speaker 2: what it usually takes me to get to my hair
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  Speaker 2: appointment was doubled all of a sudden and I had
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  Speaker 2: to get out of the Uber and I'm like running
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  Speaker 2: to the appointment thinking about getting on a city bike
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  Speaker 2: because I didn't account for how much more time it
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  Speaker 2: takes when school's in session. I'm wondering if the security
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  Speaker 2: team was doing some of these runs.
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  Speaker 1: Stop.
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  Speaker 2: In the summer before school started, and they didn't realize
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  Speaker 2: how much worse it was going to be when school
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  Speaker 2: came back. Traffic doubles sometimes. Traffic time doubles when school's
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  Speaker 2: in session.
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  Speaker 1: You really think that's it?
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  Speaker 2: If they need to get a whole new security team,
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  Speaker 2: but that would make sense. Ruh-roh, we didn't realize it
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  Speaker 2: was going to take this long.
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything out there you've seen people questioning that
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  Speaker 1: maybe this ain't actually it? That's not really the thing?
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  Speaker 1: That's the issue? Because this seems like.
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  Speaker 2: The only conspiracy theory out there is that right at
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  Speaker 2: the time, and we'll get into this, Harry and Meghan's
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  Speaker 2: security detail is now being, or their ability to have
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  Speaker 2: any sort of government protection is being reconsidered for the
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  Speaker 2: first time since 2020. All of a sudden, they have
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  Speaker 2: a security concern now. With their kids getting to school.
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  Speaker 2: But I hardly believe that any parent would use their
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  Speaker 2: kid as a pawn to try and get what they
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  Speaker 2: want and have them get thrown into a school, pulled
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  Speaker 2: out of a school, have to go to a new school,
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  Speaker 2: all to get public funded security. But that is one
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  Speaker 2: of the operating conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I thought it was going to be more far-fetched
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  Speaker 1: than that because I realized, yes, they are up for review.
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  Speaker 1: Do they ask for it or they just kind of
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  Speaker 1: qualify this group over that it takes care of public figures?
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  Speaker 2: It seems as though they qualify for it.
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  Speaker 1: They qualify for it.
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  Speaker 2: Coming from the Sussexes, coming from Prince Harry and Meghan,
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  Speaker 2: that they were a little surprised at the king's warning,
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  Speaker 2: specifically calling them a private citizen versus a public figure.
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  Speaker 2: And that is part of the determination as to whether
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  Speaker 2: or not you're even qualified or considered a to be
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  Speaker 2: a part of this taxpayer-funded security detail.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but you have to be deemed, you have to
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  Speaker 1: be classified a public figure. They can be private citizens,
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  Speaker 1: and they will always be public figures just by the
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  Speaker 1: level of their fame.
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  Speaker 2: And that's part of the argument.
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  Speaker 1: But the truth is, you are private citizens.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but he made a point to call them private citizens,
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  Speaker 2: and so that was a little bit of the rub,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, because they're trying to get the public figure status.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: This royal stuff is fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it crazy? Let's read the official statement coming from
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  Speaker 2: the Duke and Duchess regarding their children's abrupt school change.
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  Speaker 2: The decision for the children to move school was taken
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  Speaker 2: following a discussion with the family security team about the
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  Speaker 2: practicalities of their current arrangements. The parents remain extremely grateful
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  Speaker 2: to all the teachers and staff for the love, care,
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  Speaker 2: and effort they have shown their families. This decision should
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  Speaker 2: in no way be interpreted as a reflection on the
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  Speaker 2: school or the exceptional care the children have received there.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just such a British way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: You're about to go to practicalities again.
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  Speaker 2: The practicalities of their current arrangement. Yeah, we didn't do
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  Speaker 2: our due diligence to figure out what it would be
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  Speaker 2: like to drive the kids to and from school.
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  Speaker 1: That's odd. It's just an odd thing to overlook. It's
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  Speaker 1: the first thing you have to do, baby. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It seems wild. Yes, we were discussing earlier, we literally
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  Speaker 2: have been sitting down with Sabine and looking at all
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  Speaker 2: of her high school options. And part of that entails,
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  Speaker 2: how are you getting there? How are you getting back?
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  Speaker 2: How long is it going to take? What are your options? Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Ubers are too expensive. Can you get on the subway?
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  Speaker 2: Does this make sense?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you even brought up, it gets cold. It's going
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: to be rainy. You're going to take that 45-minute train ride,
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  Speaker 1: even in the snow. You're All these things. We were
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  Speaker 1: doing this literally yesterday. And to hear that you have
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  Speaker 1: a whole security detail that missed the most basic of things,
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  Speaker 1: how you get to and from school, it just, that
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  Speaker 1: part lends itself. I will listen to a conspiracy theory.
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  Speaker 1: It just seems odd that you would miss that. The
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  Speaker 1: most basic thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like the whole security team should be
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  Speaker 2: fired at this point then.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want to get on to them.
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  Speaker 2: But if they drop the ball on that basic and
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  Speaker 2: now your kids are having to now mentally and emotionally
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  Speaker 2: readjust within days, I would be pretty pissed off.
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  Speaker 1: Damn, I would be too.
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  Speaker 2: I would be very pissed off. But look, this all comes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: as Megan has now been granted a government-backed security review
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  Speaker 2: for the first time. Since she quit royal duties, Harry's
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  Speaker 2: review began back in July, so there's still no decision
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  Speaker 2: on him, but now Meghan's been added to it, and
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  Speaker 2: that's a very big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, this is going to be taxpayer money.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so we've been told the Duke and Duchess will
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  Speaker 2: both imminently receive... An official risk assessment. And this is
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  Speaker 2: all the British newspapers and media outlets are reporting on this.
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  Speaker 2: This is a big deal. It's the Royal and VIP
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  Speaker 2: Executive Committee. It's called RAVEC. I don't know how they
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  Speaker 2: pronounce that acronym. But this oversees, this group oversees the
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  Speaker 2: tax-funded security for royalty and... And for public figures. So
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  Speaker 2: right now they're saying Harry and Meghan are giving this
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  Speaker 2: Royal and VIP Executive Committee details on their new daily routine,
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  Speaker 2: their school run, the addresses they routinely visit, the routes
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  Speaker 2: they take, and now the Home Office is going to
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  Speaker 2: be evaluating their level of threat.
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  Speaker 1: So for possibly giving them taxpayer-funded security?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: How is that going to read in British newspapers, that
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  Speaker 1: we have to pay for these two?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we shall see, because... Little history here. It was
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  Speaker 2: February of 2020 when they decided to leave their official
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  Speaker 2: royal duties that they ruled that Harry was no longer
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  Speaker 2: going to be given the same degree of protection when
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  Speaker 2: he came back to the UK. He challenged that and
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  Speaker 2: lost in 2024. He went to court. He lost in 2024.
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  Speaker 2: And then he also lost in 2023 because he offered
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  Speaker 2: to privately pay Harry police for protection of him and
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  Speaker 2: his family. And they denied him that as well, because
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  Speaker 2: they say, we can't have wealthy people paying police officers
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  Speaker 2: for their personal security. So he even said, okay, fine.
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  Speaker 2: I won't ask the taxpayers to pay it. I'll pay it.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: And they still said no. So we'll see if there'll be,
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  Speaker 2: maybe there'll be some wiggle room there where they'll allow
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  Speaker 2: him to privately fund it, but have access to government security.
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  Speaker 1: He needs it. Because his current security doesn't even know
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  Speaker 1: how to do a Google map. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently, they don't understand that traffic patterns change when kids
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  Speaker 2: go back to school.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I need to stop because we seem like
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  Speaker 1: we have no idea. Because it seems like we're being
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  Speaker 1: critical of this security team. We don't know anything. If
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  Speaker 1: they are the ones, Robes, it seems something odd. What
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  Speaker 1: else could it be? But is it their responsibility? Is
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  Speaker 1: this on them? Is it that simple?
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  Speaker 2: It would be their one responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying was something else missed. Did someone else,
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  Speaker 1: were they told, yep, we're going to do this no
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  Speaker 1: matter what? Did they give a warning that, hey, this
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  Speaker 1: might be a problem? And then after a couple of days,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't want to completely dump
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  Speaker 1: on the security team.
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  Speaker 2: It was described that they were sitting in too much
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  Speaker 2: traffic and that that was just, they said they were
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: described as sitting ducks. And that was the concern, that
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  Speaker 2: they just felt like they can't be not moving. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you think about a presidential convoy, anyone who's got some
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  Speaker 2: big official convoy, even, yes, the royals, they stop traffic
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  Speaker 2: and they keep moving because you don't want to be
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  Speaker 2: stopped for an extended period of time.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a reason, but I think people know
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  Speaker 1: that now. The president, that level, folks, the president comes
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  Speaker 1: to the United States, his car, once it leaves the airport,
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  Speaker 1: does not stop moving at any point.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: This entire city. They plant New York City police officers
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  Speaker 1: at every single intersection where there's a light. That car
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  Speaker 1: doesn't move. I understand that perfectly. The King's car never moves.
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  Speaker 1: You got to stay moving. Now, Robes, if you got.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, remember when we got to see him and we
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: got to wave at him? I know. And he waved back.
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  Speaker 1: It was a big moment for us.
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  Speaker 2: He absolutely waved back.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't at me. I assure you. But, Robes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: What.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of can these kids ever be
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  Speaker 1: treated like normal kids?
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  Speaker 2: No, of course they can't, especially when everyone wants to
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  Speaker 2: see their face.
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  Speaker 1: Here's my question, babe. Give me an example of some
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  Speaker 1: royal or the kids of a president or something that
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  Speaker 1: go about their lives in a normal way, meaning they
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  Speaker 1: go to a baseball game, they go take a drive,
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  Speaker 1: they go to a Starbucks. Will these kids ever be
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  Speaker 1: able to walk around normally if you can't even go
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  Speaker 1: to school? and be in line with the rest of
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  Speaker 1: your classmates? Can you line up outside? Like, how different
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  Speaker 1: of a life are they living, Robes? That convoy can
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  Speaker 1: be long, right? Not the convoy, the line for drop-off.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's been in those before.
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  Speaker 2: You get backed up.
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  Speaker 1: Can they ever do that? How big is their convoy?
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: How many vehicles are we talking about?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's people who are having a
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  Speaker 2: blast with it on X. showing like oh god this
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  Speaker 2: is how megan wants her kids to go to.
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  Speaker 1: School every day and it's like.
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  Speaker 3: Police and flashing lights and like a 12 cars coming
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: down like dramatic as always yes so people are having
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  Speaker 3: a blast with it but when we come back we'll
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  Speaker 3: tell you about another social media post i thought megan
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  Speaker 3: might lay low she went the opposite route she posted
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  Speaker 3: again but for a good.
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  Speaker 2: Reason we'll explain when we come back Welcome back to
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  Speaker 2: Amy and TJ. Yes, Megan and Harry. We knew they
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  Speaker 2: would probably be in the headlines quite a bit now
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  Speaker 2: that they've moved back to the UK, but they have
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  Speaker 2: been in the headlines even more than we thought and
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  Speaker 2: for all the wrong reasons. Now they've got a problem
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  Speaker 2: with security, getting their kids to school. Apparently, they've enrolled
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  Speaker 2: them now in another school. British media have been reporting
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  Speaker 2: that they found another school. They're getting settled in. Everything's
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: much better, yada, yada, yada. But guess what? Today is... Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: September 15th, it is Prince Harry's 42nd birthday. Happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Happy birthday. It's good to be back home. What a
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: big party at the castle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure there's going to be a
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: big party tonight with King Charles, Camilla, his brother William, Kate.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: They're all, I'm sure, no, that's not being reported at all.
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  Speaker 2: But wouldn't that be nice? What if they had a
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  Speaker 2: surprise party for him at Buckingham Palace? And Meghan was
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: going to get him there and the whole thing was
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: being orchestrated.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that would be awesome. She had to coordinate the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: He's like the prodigal son. He returns home.
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  Speaker 1: That would be great.
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  Speaker 2: I know. So, well, he might not be getting a
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Buckingham surprise party, but he did get an Instagram post
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  Speaker 2: from his lovely wife, Megan, following all of the negative
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: comments from her last post showing their idyllic life in
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: the English countryside where people just roasted her for. She
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: put up a post the following day. Happy birthday, Harry.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: She said, he's simply the best and simply the best
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: was playing. But another version I wasn't aware of. Happy birthday,
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  Speaker 2: my love. And then it just showed a bunch of
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: pics of him with Archie and Lilibet. Their faces, of course, blocked,
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: masked in many ways. There's a really, really, really, really,
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  Speaker 2: really cute one of Harry kissing Lilibet. It's actually adorable.
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  Speaker 1: Can't see her face.
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  Speaker 2: Of course you can't see her face. But it's notable.
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  Speaker 2: There's only one quick shot of the back of Archie
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: where I think they're actually doing archery, I believe is
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  Speaker 2: what I saw.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Archer doing archery. Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But this was one of my favorite reacts because, look,
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  Speaker 2: people were general. Most people were saying this is sweet. Look,
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  Speaker 2: posting for someone's birthday is not something you're going to
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  Speaker 2: take shots at normally, but someone still found a way
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: to take a shot at what Meghan posted. I forgot
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: it was Harry's birthday, but I also couldn't care less.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Meghan Markle posted a photo montage of private citizen Harry
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: and private citizen Lily with private second-class citizen Archie afterthought. Oh,
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: my God. Kind of slapped in there. Most of the
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: photos feature Markle, Harry, and Lily. It is true. Archie
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: only got one quick shot. So they still found a
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: way to criticize. I'm just saying she can't do anything right.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Even in a post where she's celebrating... her husband, and
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: showing sweet photos of him with his children, people still
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  Speaker 2: found a way to take a shot.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else you got in there? Anything fun?
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  Speaker 2: That was my favorite one that I found.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I'm over here laughing at all the convoy things you
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: talked about.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you see it, right?
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, sometimes the internet can be funny. X had a
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: field day. These aren't mean. That's like a whole helicopter's
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: coming in.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they said Harry can take his helicopter's license,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: put it back to use, and fly the kids. I
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: saw that one.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Is it true, though, that the future Williams kids, there
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: are a bunch of pictures of Kate driving the kids
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to school and just hopping out and walking them up
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the street?
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because look, they get the protection they need, but
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: she is a public figure. The kids' faces, they're not.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: You know what? I wonder if Harry and Meghan look
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: at them and say, wow. That's actually the way to go.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: You're public. The whole point of her hiding her kids'
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: faces and hiding them, it just generates more fascination, more curiosity.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: People question the motive. If you just show them, they're
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: public figures. You can't be public figures and demand privacy.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: If you want the security for being a public figure
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: but demand to shield your children, it's just, again, they
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: want to be half in, half out. They want to
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: have it both ways. Look at what, yes, Kate going
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: with the kids. Take your pictures. Kids smile. Walk into class.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Everyone got their shots. Great.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: It's normal now and not a big deal. You're not
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: being chased and pursued.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: It takes away the desire to get a shot or
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: to have a chase because we're here. Take your pictures. Yes,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: we are the royal family. Have a good day.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: They can't do anything right. Even the birthday post. I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: don't know, babe.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I just I feel I do, babe. I don't know.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: It's just a shame.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: They're learning the hard way. I feel like each and every.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Step of the way. They've been learning for six years
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: about the missteps. And again, she has the right. They
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: have the right to do what they want to do.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And they do have the right to be private citizens, babe.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Private citizens who want to be really famous.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Or be also considered... public figures to get taxpayer-funded security.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, they keep wanting to.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Have things both ways.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: That's why people are like, pick, and you're making your choices,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: and then you don't like the consequences of your choices.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, you make a good point there. They're actually asking
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: for taxpayer funding. I don't want to show you my kids,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: who are the, where are they in the line? There's Harry, no,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: excuse me, there's William, his son.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Daughter, And then Louie.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And then Harry.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: And then Harry.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And then Archie.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: And then Archie.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: And then a little bit.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: This is a family. I mean, don't get me wrong, babe.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: God forbid. But you're still an heir to the throne.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: And you will not allow the public to see your
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: kid's face. They have the right to do that. There's
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: safety concerns. His mama died in all this foolishness. Robes,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: he understands and feels this in a way that I
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: never can. So I don't want to take that away
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: from him. Ugh. From Harry. But man, it's If you
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: could sit down and just talk to them and say, hey, guys,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: what about this? Hey, Megan, let me have your phone.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Just go put up a big old family photo, you
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: all smiling, faces showing. Take your slow walk to the school,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: wave and smile, and just accept.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: But again, that's safety, baby. Again, if you thought your
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: child's life was being threatened in some way.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: But then the argument is, why are you putting photos
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: of them dangling carrots the backs of their heads?
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: So give me that answer then. Why would you do that?
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Because she's trying to repair an image. She's trying to say, see,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: we're a happy family. See, our kids are well-adjusted.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: But she's always done that, has she not? She's always
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: shown pictures of the kids, just not their faces.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Right, but.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: So it's not a new thing, is it?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: No, it's not. But she's also, at the same time,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: asking for privacy. It doesn't make any sense.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Who does this? I always go back to Ryan Gosling
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and Eva Mendez. We've never seen their kids, right? I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: have no idea.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: They don't show the backs of their heads.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And she doesn't do the tease thing, right? Does anybody
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: else do that?
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: I've seen a couple actually former colleagues of ours put
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: stars in front. But these are people who are not.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I don't even understand. I'm like, why do you think anyone?
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: But people make choices. I've seen people do that. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: haven't seen a major star or celebrity do that.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: What is she giving us as a public? By letting
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: us see a limited version of her kids. Does she
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: seem like she's doing a service to us?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: No, it's a service. People make the argument, and I
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: think it's hard to disagree with. She's trying to promote
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the image of her as a mother and Harry as
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: a father.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: But genuinely, she wants to share that. That can be sincere.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to go with that, that genuinely any mom,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: any proud dad, they tweet too damn much or they
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: put too much on Instagram. Is she just doing that?
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: But what's the point of doing that if you're hiding faces?
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I don't understand either do it or don't. And I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: have no problem with doing it. I just don't understand, again,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: when you try to have it both ways, you lose everybody.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: This is too bad. These videos are hilarious, though. And
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: they're not mean-spirited. Some of these are actually quite funny,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like Humvees and tanks rolling up to the school in
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: some of these images. It's funny.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: All right. More to come, I'm sure. With that, everyone,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: alongside TJ Holmes.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: We'll talk soon.