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148. More Unpopular Mythic Legions Opinions, plus latest news. · The Euro Legions Podcast

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  My wallet is sobbing. I can hear it.
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  I can hear it in the hall now. It is breaking down crying.
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  It turns out that Attila the arrogant so and so he's got a
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  fake hammer. Oh.
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  A fake? Yeah.
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  Whoa. As I say, Dick.
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  All right, welcome to episode 148 of the Allegiance podcast.
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  And this week we're recording a little bit later than usual, so
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  we're going to try and get as much in as possible and still
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  get this out reasonably on time. So Mal, how are you?
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  I am good. Thank you.
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  Eh, nearly the end of the week, which I am really looking
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  forward to. Yeah.
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  And that's. If we should be in better form
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  now, it's Thursday. So yeah, you know.
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  Thursday nights There's only one day left in the week and Rich,
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  how's how's things? I felt better, let's put it that
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  way. I'm the reason we're recording
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  on a Thursday rather than a Wednesday.
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  Yesterday was just spent on the sofa with a duvet.
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  You're. So precious.
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  I am very precious, I know. Imagine if you were a girl.
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  Imagine kind of a wife. You'd be.
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  Oh, I'd be a high maintenance one, but.
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  Yeah, I think so, Yeah. You can't really be that.
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  You can't really be as a man that that maintenance.
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  Yeah, let's face it, I'd also be a trophy wife.
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  It would be an honest as well sort of thing, so.
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  OK, we let the listeners decide what kind of trophy that is.
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  Anyway, this week we are going to talk about the little bit of
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  latest news. So eh, this will come out just
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  before they reveal, eh, the next Infinite Legions wave, which we
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  will talk about in more detail next week.
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  And that's our can, the Joe Manganiello thing and whatever
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  else. They said there'd be more
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  surprises. So let's cross our fingers for
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  lots of cool stuff there. And they also released the
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  Fighting Box Arts. We'll have a quick look at that
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  now in a minute. And also we're going to continue
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  on with the bad opinions, eh, from legions.
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  So get through a bunch more of those to fill out the episode.
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  That should be fun. And eh, first of all, we should
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  say that, eh, Saturday night this week is gonna be riches
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  season opening quiz on the we're going to.
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  Have a eh as they say. Umm yeah.
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  I'm not sure where, but they'd say that.
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  So yeah, it's it's looking back at.
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  So there'll be a few rounds of questions looking back at
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  legions in hand stuff from last year, some reveals from last
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  year. There'll be some drawings from
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  me. And also as it's still January,
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  just we'll also have my now infamous.
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  I think infamous is the right term 10 and Christmas movies as
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  drawn by me. See if people can do better than
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  like 3 out of 10 or everyone's people was growing last year.
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  So. Sounds good they.
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  Probably won't because obviously I used a lot of the big films
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  last year. So, you know, we have to go a
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  bit a little bit more obscure this time, but.
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  What time are we kicking off? It is 7:00 PM UK time which is
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  2:00 PM Eastern Time in this. Year.
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  And whatever other time zone people are in.
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  That is 8:00 in Central European time.
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  So I think that's most of the time zones.
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  I'm not going to do Australia, even though I guess it's some
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  sort of daytime there. So that's not too bad, you know,
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  and right. Shall we have a look then?
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  At first I, should I? Shouldn't quickly add sorry as
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  well. Just if MD is thinking about
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  coming along to the quiz, you know it's it is good fun.
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  You can have a go on on, you know yourself.
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  You can pop the answers or you think of the answers into the
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  comments if you want to. Some of the contestants may or
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  may not use the answers Mal. Will undoubtedly need help, so
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  might take you up on that. I I was going to suggest that
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  even if it is lunchtime in America, in the states, let's
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  say America, the states bring some alcohol because it's the
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  only way you're going to get through it.
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  And an even better news, I may not be on the show so you won't
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  have to listen to me. So it's another bonus might be
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  the first two reasons without me.
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  So there you go, a part from riches randoms which you have to
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  pay for it to listen to. They're worth every penny just
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  to clear of. Course they are very high.
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  I really. Enjoy listening to them,
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  definitely. And yeah, and next week.
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  So this week we had, Oh my God, Brent, JTJ Colligan.
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  Yes, this week we had TJ Colligan and next week Jeremy
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  Govier, king of the Demon Wing tally.
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  Yeah, Speaking of time zones, he confused the hell out of me
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  because he's like, oh, it's Arizona, right?
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  That's Pacific Standard Time, 8 hours behind us.
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  So I messaged him and he was like no no, this time of year
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  we're Mountain Standard Time so it's 7 hours off.
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  Did they just move to mountains in for the winter?
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  Is it? Apparently, apparently Arizona
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  doesn't like, you know, change the daylight and savings time
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  and that sort of stuff. So just like we're here so you
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  guys can just move to us or move away from us.
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  Right. OK, so, so they didn't change.
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  It's just everyone has changed. So effectively, they changed.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  Fighting box art. So this is a cool little sneak
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  peek and posted on the Four Horsemen channels and looks
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  pretty cool. Pretty purple and kind of
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  pinkish here. What do you think, Mal?
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  I know this is your jam, possibly forcing you to keep one
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  in box or not. I must admit I saw the box.
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  I was like, damn it, yeah, it's very cool.
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  But it's, it's feels quite different to what we normally
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  get, doesn't it? A bit more sketchy, a bit more
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  loose than some of what we we usually get.
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  And I really, really like it. Yeah, I think it's, I'm guessing
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  that it's going to be particular for each Infinite Legions line.
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  So I hope so. This doesn't mean that the box
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  art on you know the arc and infinite Legions is going to be
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  same shape or anything you know would be my guess.
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  I think you're. Going to be spot on that one.
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  Yeah, but this if they're doing more on the on our design stuff
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  in the future, I guess this is set the standard then for how
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  they're going to look. Yeah, so very nicely done there
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  you see all the info cup of product photograph and an art
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  drawing. So this was done between Matt
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  and Mark from O'Neill Design and then Nate Barch from the studio.
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  Thank you people. People could have got confused
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  and thinking it was me. It's not me.
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  No, I know it looks like the sort of level I do stuff, but
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  it's not me. No, you would take much longer
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  to do yours. Yours wouldn't be ready in time
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  for production, let's be honest. Yeah, so they have already
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  wrapped up apparently and are leaving the factory or left the
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  factory. So we should be seeing them
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  pretty soon. If you have them on pre-order
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  from a retailer, I suppose expect the invoice pretty soon.
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  I got a surprise invoice today from the Rising Suns from a
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  retailer and I didn't know I ordered some from.
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  John, you know what you need? A spreadsheet sheet.
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  I started a spreadsheet and then I keep forgetting to update it,
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  so yeah, you. Need to keep on top of that, so
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  yeah. Yeah.
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  Well, this was a different retailer and I think it was
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  because they and it was towards the end of the pre.
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  I ordered some at the start of the pre-order and then this was
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  towards the end of the pre-order and I think I wanted more of
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  those dwarf heads. And then I decided, well, you
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  know, I suppose at the time financial situation was looking
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  all right. And I decided, you know, I'll
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  add a few more and and maybe also customising and stuff
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  you're thinking I might use this, might use that.
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  But to you, as you said before, 2 years down the line, the
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  picking up stuff for customs is a little bit like, well, I don't
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  really need them anymore. Yeah.
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  So we shall see. And there is a, you see the logo
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  pretty cool. And space traveller fighting is
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  what it's called so. I mean, we'll, we'll find out
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  later this week, but I wonder if the way Infinite Legions is
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  written will change as well. On from product.
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  Product. That's not the right word from
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  IP. Property to property, yeah.
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  Yeah, that would be cool if it did, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then somehow keep the same
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  style. I don't know how they do that,
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  but you know, just put a little flourish in each one.
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  Dragon scaly or something like that?
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  Yeah, maybe something like that, Like the the, the, yeah, the
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  texture of the. Well, you can give them some art
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  tips on how to do that. Exactly.
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  Do you know what I mean? Give me a laptop, a Word
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  document on my finger and we are good to go.
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  And word art and. And sounds dirtier than it's
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  meant to. I keep expecting, and I've not
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  had it yet, for the local colleges to come and ask me to
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  start teaching art, but apparently that's not on the
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  syllabus at the moment. Yeah, I don't know.
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  It's, it's pretty tough business to make money at.
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  So you might be better sticking where you're at just I.
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  Think so, yeah. But you know, maybe post
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  retirement you could have a little pension top up with your
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  art, you know? Yeah, I could make like £2 a
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  year, something like that. Yeah.
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  See but back handing me a dollar a time legions con.
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  Is everyone getting anything? You go probably don't even need
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  to declare that to Mr HMRC, right?
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  And then ARC and the crew. So here's the schedule for it.
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  Schedule or schedule? Which one is the English saying
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  I've? It's one of those words where?
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  I think we're Schedule I. Always say schedule.
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  Yeah. OK, OK, there you go.
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  I set it right then, eh Joe, Manager Nello's ARC and the
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  crews of Friday 13th of January when this basically releases at
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  least our time early on Friday comes out probably early
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  Thursday or late Thursday on US time very late and 8:00 Eastern.
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  So Saturday morning job for us really, isn't it here?
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  Yeah, yeah. That's two in the morning of
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  you, John. One in the morning here.
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  It's like, yeah. Friday night so I might stay up
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  but I'm not sure I will I'm. We'll see.
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  Yeah, yeah. Almost done with Try January.
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  That's all I can see here. And 8:30 PM Eastern is so 8:00
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  PM is the documentary so that they have 1/2 an hour
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  documentary. Yeah, behind the scenes stuff.
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  They did that with the fading as well as the the glass.
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  Was very cool. Very cool.
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  I have to be, I've not seen the fading one, but I'm really
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  looking forward to documentary for this one.
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  Yeah, quite excited. Fading one's worth a watch.
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  Yeah, very well produced, Brad, and the studio does a really
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  good job there. Umm, 8:30 PM then is the live
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  stream special revealed special. So it's 8:30 to 9:00 PM.
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  So can't imagine it's a huge amount of figures even though,
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  you know, we've seen pretty much what Archon comes with and
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  everything else. So yeah.
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  And then 9:00 Eastern Time, the pre-order goes up on Store
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  Horsemen. And then I wanted to show here
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  Joe Manganiello has this dark order.
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  It goes with his Archon kind of lower or whatever.
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  And there's a couple of figures here.
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  These are miniatures that come with this pack from Wiz Kids.
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  Never heard of that but they probably make more DND stuff
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  that we just not aware of as a minotaur here and he's the
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  bodyguard of our can. Tara Gar.
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  Steel Fist. That's the one, yeah.
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  So I think he might be a favourite.
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  If we're going to get another figure with our can, he might be
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  my favourite. This is who I've predicted will
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  get because I feel like they can use existing parts and then
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  sculpt extra bits for him, yeah. I think I agreed him out.
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  You know they can use some existing parts and also they
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  could choose parts from this for an A stereo version 2 or.
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  Maybe scale them up to? Brood.
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  Yeah, well, very well. I sort of, although his legs
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  don't look like it. I initially thought maybe it's
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  New Jersey devil legs and a brute scale torso.
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  We'll see. And then you just need the new
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  head, obviously. Yeah.
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  So he's very cool. The next one is the turtle.
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  This is you I want if I had my witch.
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  This is you I want. I am death.
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  Cleric, I am with you, Rich. I would prefer this guy.
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  I really, really like the way he looks.
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  But I'm just he's a lot of new parts.
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  And you sculpt. Yeah, which we might get.
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  You never know. I.
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  Mean Archan is pretty much yeah you partly I was struggling to
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  see on him where where the existing parts are.
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  There isn't any. I think he's.
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  I think looking at this guy, I think he could easily send some
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  of those parts. It's like a rock man or
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  something like that. The feature use.
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  Yeah, all the right turtle characters.
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  Yeah, well, yeah. He's he's very cool.
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  Not really like a very cool. Yeah, he could go straight into
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  the convocation of Basilia, or the death Clerics are probably
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  Poxus, unfortunately. Yeah.
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  Berserker, some man telling me here that this is probably not
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  going to happen even though he would be the most likely parents
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  wise. Yes, I originally, so when I was
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  doing my research originally, I read that this guy and the demon
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  were part of the Dark Order, but I've done more reading recently
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  and they're not. These were minions added to this
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  pack for the to fight and, you know, to add more characters to
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  do your DND campaign. So yeah.
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  So yeah, we can kind of skip over him.
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  But yeah, it would be reasonably generic barbarian Cool one I
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  mean, but. I wouldn't mind him at some
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  point, but I don't. I think he's owned by Dungeons
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  and by, well, who is it? We said.
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  Sort of because. DND don't they?
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  So he's only not Joe Mangan, Ellie and this is the demon that
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  probably. Don't get him.
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  I'd be shy. I'd be shy.
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  Yeah. So he's also one that we
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  probably won't get because it's not.
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  Yeah, part of the Dark Order. It's more part of this eh pack.
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  Pretty cool. Though, Yeah, I mean.
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  We've got all the parts pretty much, haven't we?
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  There's one or two little bits that, yeah.
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  Yeah, but we can skip over him this going with Manticore
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  Changa. The Manticore, he's very cool.
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  Yeah. This would be new tooling.
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  This would be like a battle cat kind of do word wings.
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  But which we could use Exciting. Sorry, Rich, go on.
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  No, it's good. I'm just going to say.
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  But you could use some of that tooling for a gryphon or
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  something like that exactly that quite easily.
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  So there is the reuse potential there.
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  Yeah, it would be incredibly exciting what it might mean for
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  legions, maybe, if they did well.
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  Yeah. It's been hinted to us that we
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  are going to get him at some point, so that'll be amazing if
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  it's tomorrow, yeah. Tomorrow, yeah.
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  Saturday, tomorrow, today, if, if you're listening to this and
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  the day goes out and we're completely wrong if you're
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  listening to it on Saturday, so or after.
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  I don't think we'll get the man score this and I think we'll get
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  the man score as well, but I would imagine to be a bit
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  further down the line. So that's this this little pack.
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  I just want to put it in there just to acknowledge this where
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  these pictures come from and you see they're miniatures.
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  So I think that's those pictures at the art more than the
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  miniatures themselves or the renters, whatever, and Arkan
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  himself. See, see their how I was
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  struggling to find any existing legions parts.
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  Maybe the maybe the Cape when you're when you're saying soft
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  goods. Yeah, this is a totally new
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  thing, which is it's a funny one.
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  I thought the infinite legions was to to kind of use the
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  legions build system. And I suppose this will be the
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  same build system, but it's an entirely new library.
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  I mean, it's a. It's a.
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  Complaining now, No. No, it's interesting because it
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  opens up. All.
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  Sorts of possibilities if they're willing to do a
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  completely, you know. Maybe you've sculpt it's based
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  on like the likelihood of it selling a lot more than maybe
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  even Mythic Legion or you know, the reaching outside the core
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  community. So.
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  Yes, potentially is going to appeal to D&D fans.
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  And he was in on Critical Role, so there's a lot of Critical
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  Role fans. It's.
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  Got the potential to be huge this one.
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  Yeah. And then one more, every left
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  field shelter I will throw out thanks to our friend Anthony
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  Hoci, who flagged this up to us this morning and it was posted,
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  him and Pat Boyd posted in a lot of places today.
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  So it's not kind of secret between friends anymore or
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  anything. But he shouted out possibly
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  these, one of these figures, which is Joe Manganiello's DND
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  campaign, he has a bunch of characters and this artist, Max
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  Dunbar to art for them. And this guy on the left here on
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  the bear, the dwarf, of course, what Anthony is shouting out.
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  And this, this we pretty much have the parts for.
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  Yeah, maybe the head. Need a new head?
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  I think I said this in our chat, didn't I?
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  Unfortunately, I mean, I don't know.
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  It will depend. If Joe Manganiello owns
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  everything about this campaign, he's doing it.
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  He might do, in which case we possibly could get some of
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  these. But if he doesn't, then we're
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  not getting them away. Oh, it's unlikely we're getting
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  them, Yeah. It's some very cool, it's quite
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  left field show and it doesn't really go with ARC and as my
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  point here, maybe more so than anything on this, like there's
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  no relationship between the characters as such, so why would
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  they go together and but a cool dwarf and eh, you never know.
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  So. And the dude on the far right,
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  which you almost second ago, John Murray's half burnt.
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  That's a pretty cool looking character.
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  Yeah, that's your, that's your speed, isn't?
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  It. Oh yeah.
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  That was one at the back as well that looked pretty cool.
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  Yeah, on that side. Let's see that if you scroll the
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  other one. That sort of, well, the Dark
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  Archer looks cool, but the guy with the wings and the.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, it's not even. It's like a night, almost.
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  It was almost like a night. Yeah, very cool.
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  All right, so I think that's the news.
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  Do you have any news guys Relate to legions?
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  Now. Or what we talked about in the
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  podcast, The He Man movie. We're excited for that.
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  Very excited. Very, yeah.
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  After seeing the trailer, I think if you'd asked me before
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  seeing anything would be like Nope.
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  But now the trailer makes a little It looks fun.
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  Even if it's not the best film, it looks a fun film that they've
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  actually spent some money on. And they revealed a bunch of the
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  figures as well. Yeah, they're decent.
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  I wouldn't say they're my thing, they're a little bit too
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  unpainted for me in terms of what I'm used to.
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  Mythics like stuff like the faces are more of the plastic
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  colour with a bit of paint. I just hate that really that
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  these days A. Couple of them I really like the
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  look of. I do agree with people and what
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  means what people are saying under some of them but a couple
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  of my real like I think the heat and figure looks really cool.
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  And somebody needs to give them a lesson on weathering for men
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  of derms armour. It's it's horrendous.
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  Well, watching the pixel down thing and I this is weird to me.
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  You pointed out it's actually like it's patina, but I have
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  never in my life thought he was wearing copper armour to have.
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  Yeah, there is Where there? Is elements of like that kind of
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  greenish patina colour in there? Mixed them on the gold.
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  Does gold patina is another question.
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  Maybe. I don't, I don't think.
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  But I think, I think that's why gold.
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  Is always like yellow painted more on top of you know.
• 21:34
  Yeah. So isn't it one of the reasons
• 21:37
  why gold is valuable is because it doesn't, Yeah.
• 21:40
  Pasta or anything, Yeah. Doesn't weather, yeah.
• 21:46
  Anyway, I thought. It was interesting with the toys
• 21:48
  that you saw the Trap Jaw face on.
• 21:52
  Obviously all you saw was a back of him in there in the trailer
• 21:55
  and then you saw what Triclops are going to look like as well
• 21:57
  and he wasn't in the trailer at all, I don't think Boiler for
• 21:59
  trying. So yeah.
• 22:01
  That that is then the one thing I would say he comes with that
• 22:04
  sniper rifle, which is a cool idea.
• 22:06
  And I don't know much about the Motu law, but wasn't he like a
• 22:10
  blade master? Wasn't Triclops meant to be an
• 22:13
  excellent swordsman? And they look like they might
• 22:15
  have eliminated that altogether. Yeah, but he does have the, you
• 22:19
  know, the all seeing eye thing in the head.
• 22:21
  And he's, he's very tech. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:24
  Tech focused as well so. I thought they have to.
• 22:27
  Choose a. Really cool, a really cool
• 22:28
  design for him. Yeah, it did.
• 22:31
  It actually looks a bit like AGI Joe.
• 22:34
  So someone else? He does, yeah.
• 22:37
  And Tina looks a bit like AGI Joe as well as well.
• 22:40
  We like GI Joe, so it's not bad thing.
• 22:42
  But is it well too? They've also said they're closer
• 22:46
  to the six inch scale as well, aren't they?
• 22:48
  So they're kind of sounds like they're scaling them to fit with
• 22:51
  your Joes and your smile, which is interesting.
• 22:56
  It probably. The DC line they're going to be
• 22:57
  doing taking off from Todd. That's a good shaft.
• 23:01
  Yeah, yeah. Which the teasers we've seen in
• 23:04
  them and even though it's the kids line, they look like they
• 23:06
  could be good, could be really good.
• 23:10
  But all I'd say is after getting back into collecting, maybe it's
• 23:14
  over maybe 12 years ago now with Masters of the Universe at the
• 23:18
  start mainly, there was never any notion that we'd get a movie
• 23:26
  at all. Definitely no notion it would
• 23:29
  look this good and have this much money behind it.
• 23:34
  And we're going to have so much other related stuff to the
• 23:38
  movie. So I mean, if you like Origins,
• 23:40
  they're going to keep making those.
• 23:41
  I can tell you that much for a while, you know, And if you
• 23:45
  like, you know, merchandise, be it, you know, duvet covers, for
• 23:50
  example, they'll probably be some of those.
• 23:52
  They'll probably be sticker books.
• 23:53
  They'll probably be all sorts of stuff.
• 23:55
  So you know it'll be MO to heaven come next summer.
• 24:01
  Yeah. And we get to go to the cinema,
• 24:03
  so that's always a good thing, isn't it Rich?
• 24:05
  And I get to go on my birthday because it releases on my
• 24:07
  birthday. Yes.
• 24:08
  I can use it as a birthday treat.
• 24:10
  So I'm, you know, headed over there to watch that.
• 24:14
  Tripoli. Happy days.
• 24:15
  Tripoli happy days, Right. Bad opinions?
• 24:19
  Let's get into it. Are we?
• 24:20
  Are we feeling? Are we feeling angry?
• 24:22
  Are we feeling happy? Where do you?
• 24:24
  Want to? I'm feeling ill, so unless, you
• 24:25
  know, I probably won't be as riled up.
• 24:27
  Maybe as always a couple of times last time.
• 24:29
  But let's give it a go. We'll we'll see how it tries.
• 24:34
  It's January so we can we definitely angrier than normal
• 24:37
  so. This is true.
• 24:40
  Arthur would look better without the gauges.
• 24:41
  That's the the round ear things. I guess that's it.
• 24:45
  That depends on your opinion about those type of things.
• 24:48
  It's a very niche opinion for me.
• 24:50
  Yeah, he looks, he's cool. He's got a cool design.
• 24:53
  I don't offend anyone that has gauges, you know, I think it's a
• 24:57
  cool. They wanted to make a metal less
• 24:59
  pretty metal. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:02
  Well, my colleagues work has got 1 gauge which I didn't know it's
• 25:05
  called that until now. So I've learned something today,
• 25:08
  but I think that it looks fine. Yeah, I don't think it.
• 25:11
  I wonder if they think it looks too modern, but I don't think it
• 25:13
  does. And Hitman was looking up to see
• 25:19
  if it looks weird. I always thought the people with
• 25:24
  1 gauge just it was hurt too much that they didn't go through
• 25:28
  with the second one, no? I don't think so with my
• 25:31
  colleague, but I don't know. I'll have to ask if these.
• 25:33
  Are cartoonishly big. This is someone that never had a
• 25:36
  2.0 figure. I mean, I think cartoonishly big
• 25:45
  is a bit harsh. They are big, but one of the
• 25:49
  things I love about Legions is that chunky feel to them and
• 25:54
  yeah, you know, they've got a big ish head, they've got AI
• 25:57
  mean they're out. They're not in any kind of real
• 25:59
  proportion really, are they? But so it's.
• 26:04
  Fantasy proportion. Yeah, exactly.
• 26:07
  It's never occurs to me for a second that the feet.
• 26:08
  Were big, but they stand well the one point zeros anyway, so
• 26:13
  I'll take that as a positive. Well, this, you know, the
• 26:15
  armoured feet, I mean armour has to be bigger than your foot,
• 26:19
  much bigger. And the kind of float like
• 26:23
  Bardrick Valach feet, they're pretty spot on, I would say
• 26:27
  scale wise what they need to be. And the leather boots never
• 26:32
  stuck out to me that that was bad.
• 26:34
  Or the barefoot. You're right.
• 26:36
  So you're right. I'm going to say no, don't
• 26:39
  agree. Yeah.
• 26:40
  Yeah. Maybe some of the deal with
• 26:44
  ridiculously small feet themselves.
• 26:48
  So they're just bitter and twisted.
• 26:50
  And you know what you say about small feet?
• 26:52
  Well, I don't want to go there, but yeah.
• 26:54
  We need more MO 2 homages. Well, definitely now after what
• 26:57
  we just talked about. I think I would say no to this.
• 27:02
  I've never been a huge fan of the the the motor.
• 27:04
  Homos reason I have to admit. But we do need a claw for
• 27:07
  homage, so if they could do that and then stop, I'd be fine.
• 27:10
  But you like operative 83, so amended arms?
• 27:14
  Yeah, I mean, they were better in the cosmic realm than they do
• 27:16
  in the the mythic. Like David's cosmic one?
• 27:19
  Buzz off. Yeah, and the diddles be very
• 27:22
  happy, but some of them like the trap jaw one, just like Nah.
• 27:27
  You see, I often I quite like them because they are such a
• 27:31
  departure from the normal figures I kind of like.
• 27:36
  What you're not so keen about them I guess is is that they're
• 27:40
  brightly coloured and and and almost don't quite fit with the
• 27:43
  rest of the line. So I'm all for them.
• 27:47
  Yeah, I'm same as e-mail more for them and if they did a sub
• 27:50
  line and infinite legions line that was multi homages, I'd say
• 27:54
  bring it on. I guess it'd probably work a
• 27:57
  little better than as they'd be within their own their own
• 28:00
  thing. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:03
  Suppose it, yeah, it depends how, Yeah.
• 28:05
  How in the Lord you are, how in the factions you are, how in the
• 28:09
  aesthetic you are. Maybe for for these?
• 28:12
  It's aesthetics for me. It's like chronal without blue
• 28:15
  torso and then Okiatos with a bright blue and I was like Nah.
• 28:21
  OK, this one whispers. I don't follow the lore or
• 28:24
  factions at all. If it fits in my own personal
• 28:27
  universe, in my own head, then I get it, I'd say.
• 28:31
  Good. Really fine.
• 28:33
  Yeah. Well done.
• 28:34
  Well done. Yeah.
• 28:35
  There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I'm doing well.
• 28:37
  I'm I'm doing the same with Savage Crucible because some of
• 28:40
  what they do, I really like a lot of it.
• 28:41
  I'm not, so far a lot of it I'm not that fussed about.
• 28:45
  Rich is massive for doing his own factions and things.
• 28:48
  I think do what you like if you think it's a cool.
• 28:50
  Figure you only pick up the awoks you like Rich, not the
• 28:54
  other one. The stake of our PG family
• 29:00
  friendly rating. I won't respond to that as I.
• 29:02
  Want to don't make me do next one.
• 29:07
  I'm tired of every male mage character being old and bald.
• 29:11
  I want more majors with longer hair.
• 29:14
  Hell in general I just want more male characters with long hair.
• 29:17
  Not everyone needs to have short hair or bald.
• 29:21
  Couldn't agree more. Yeah, I'm 100% in on this.
• 29:26
  I think generally you need as many bald characters as you can,
• 29:29
  but for majors, yeah, just get some more air going.
• 29:32
  I'm all for variety, yeah, or whatever we get.
• 29:35
  I'm easy on that. If it looks cool, it looks cool.
• 29:37
  Whether it's bald. I think I've mentioned this
• 29:40
  before, I think maybe which way when we got him I know I was a
• 29:45
  bit salty on that wave in general and I think with him I
• 29:48
  just thought come on, another bald beardy guy.
• 29:50
  He looks the same as the other Wizards, Pretty much, yeah.
• 29:56
  Rich, you're just hoping they'll hit you on to your likeness by
• 29:59
  accident, aren't you? You never know.
• 30:01
  You never know. That would be awesome.
• 30:04
  That is one thing we're missing is a character with mutton
• 30:07
  chops, which I know Rich hasn't got them at the moment, but.
• 30:11
  Yeah, couldn't have them for a long time, Rich, let's be
• 30:13
  honest. No.
• 30:14
  Well, we've got the the Captain ions got like we come in in a
• 30:17
  couple of years, but. Oh yeah, of course, yes.
• 30:19
  Of. Course.
• 30:21
  Yeah, mutton chops were a long, long time ago.
• 30:24
  Yeah, Yeah. Dragon ain't worth it.
• 30:28
  Don't know. It's, it's very relative, isn't
• 30:32
  it? Yeah.
• 30:33
  If it's if it's not worth it to you, that's fine.
• 30:36
  To me, it was well worth it. Yeah.
• 30:39
  I'd say, I think if you compare it to like big releases by the
• 30:44
  companies, then it's absolutely worth a dollar because you're
• 30:48
  getting so much stuff for the price.
• 30:50
  You know if like Hasbro put that out would be $1000 at least.
• 30:55
  Yeah, look at those. The Thunder Tank from Super 7.
• 31:00
  MMM, any of their big stuff. It's generally just big kind of
• 31:04
  symmetrical hunks of plastic with a bit of minimal paint work
• 31:07
  on it. Minimal paint, yeah.
• 31:09
  Minimal sculpt in a way well. And then look at what Mattel
• 31:13
  wanted the wants for most of the UMM, not Mattel has probably
• 31:19
  once. For most house labs it's like
• 31:22
  three, £400 for something you know?
• 31:29
  Yeah, yeah. It's why I didn't go despite
• 31:31
  being my my favourite vehicles that the, the Snowcad with the
• 31:35
  GI Joe has Lab. It's like it's really cool, but
• 31:38
  it's also $300 or £300 or wherever it was.
• 31:42
  And there's hardly any paint apps and this sort of stuff.
• 31:44
  And you're like, he's really struggled to justify it on that
• 31:47
  sort of thing. Whereas a dragon, there's so
• 31:49
  much stuff going on, Yeah. And you know, with it being
• 31:53
  legions, the build quality will be, you know, and having even
• 31:58
  just seen the prototype, the build quality on that alone is
• 32:02
  is incredible. So hmm.
• 32:05
  Yeah, absolutely. Right.
• 32:09
  There's a longer one here. Generally I like version 2 of
• 32:11
  characters much more to much more to much more than version
• 32:17
  ones. So Gideon version 2 is my lead
• 32:20
  leading legion of the year. But the big exception to me is
• 32:23
  Vargas for Amelius. Paint off sculpt soft goods are
• 32:27
  simpler than on version 2, but for me that versions 1
• 32:31
  simplicity and paint tech make it simply iconic and my second
• 32:37
  favourite mythics figure. So still not your favourite.
• 32:42
  It's a bit disappointing here this whole comment, you know?
• 32:47
  I mean, again, it comes down to choice, doesn't it?
• 32:50
  Yeah, I, I, I understand what they're saying about Fergus
• 32:55
  Familius, but they're kind of for me, He's.
• 32:59
  Different enough that, yeah, basically keep both of them.
• 33:03
  That's my opinion on them. Yeah, I think there's such a
• 33:06
  difference in them and the style and the way they're done.
• 33:10
  The the first one is unique enough definitely to keep and
• 33:14
  you don't and you know, whereas for example Gideon version one
• 33:19
  don't need to keep him if you have version 2, you know, unless
• 33:22
  you just have kind of sentimental attachment.
• 33:24
  I was going to say again though, it comes down to they are
• 33:29
  different enough I suppose. I suppose it's all armour
• 33:33
  versus. It's the paint job on version 1
• 33:37
  is really unique and different, you know?
• 33:39
  Yeah, yeah. What do you think the law with
• 33:42
  it, I mean, they're basically said with the law, you know,
• 33:44
  it's, it goes from wearer to wearer.
• 33:47
  Yeah. So that in itself, you know, the
• 33:49
  armour will look different depending on who it goes to.
• 33:51
  You know, if you know, 1 vampire is not the same.
• 33:54
  Yeah, so it's going to look a bit different.
• 33:55
  So I got no problem at all with the second one.
• 33:58
  In fact I sold my first one to get and kept the second one.
• 34:01
  So it's. Fair enough.
• 34:02
  Yeah, Whatever people like, OK. More mounts than just horses and
• 34:09
  a bear. Yeah.
• 34:10
  Agreed, I agree and disagree with this.
• 34:13
  So yes, change, change them up, but less mounts generally
• 34:17
  because they take up so much display space.
• 34:20
  I'm sure our our American listeners with their massive
• 34:23
  basements and all these sort of things will be fine with it.
• 34:25
  But you know, but over here in the UK, there's just not enough
• 34:29
  space for all these. Yeah, I've only got my well,
• 34:32
  I've got the four horses for the four horsemen and the two.
• 34:46
  Oh, the headless horsemen. Yeah, headless.
• 34:48
  The two headless. Horsemen on display.
• 34:50
  The rest of them are all still in their boxes in cupboards
• 34:52
  because there's I haven't got the display space.
• 34:55
  Yeah, yeah. So like Ballias and Boreas and
• 34:58
  those guys. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:01
  KDS Horse, yeah. We talked at the time.
• 35:04
  I went berserk when they first announced the horses and I think
• 35:06
  I ordered 11 Ballias and yeah, 3 or 4.
• 35:09
  Ather, but they're right. Did you realise that your house
• 35:13
  was small back then? Well, I did, but I think, I
• 35:15
  don't know, I don't think I was just excited about horses or
• 35:17
  what, but it just once you've got the first box in hand,
• 35:20
  you're like, yeah, I can't display the heat.
• 35:22
  So I've got 2 Ballias left and they're on display and that's
• 35:25
  great, but you know. Did you ever think when you were
• 35:27
  doing those orders that you'd be on a podcast one day saying, no,
• 35:31
  I don't want as many months, you know, nice months?
• 35:34
  No previous rich was more foolish.
• 35:38
  I think they're amongst the best looking horses you can bar
• 35:41
  brilliant horses. I will say they've got a seam on
• 35:44
  their tail that's really annoying and it's affected my
• 35:48
  error. Athon OK, but yeah, but.
• 35:53
  Yeah, another one you're talking about.
• 35:55
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't.
• 36:01
  I love the horses. I think they're great.
• 36:02
  I do think we have a lot now. I think Rich is probably right,
• 36:05
  definitely on those type of mounts.
• 36:09
  I think we need to always reason, not just throwing it in
• 36:12
  for for things. So a reason and maybe that it
• 36:16
  comes with another figure or like even I'd smile with the
• 36:21
  polar bear. That was cool as well that it's
• 36:23
  kind of related to the whole story there.
• 36:27
  And yeah, I think that works. Yeah, I mean, that's sort of,
• 36:32
  you know, you people have to realise that they do have to
• 36:35
  reuse sculpts to make it worthwhile financially.
• 36:38
  But you know, we've, we've had a few horses now, so it's time for
• 36:41
  a gryphon. Yeah, yeah, I think there's
• 36:43
  things like that. Yeah.
• 36:44
  Great. I'm with you.
• 36:45
  A Griff. Well, a mantico or a gryphon
• 36:48
  would be very cool. Very, very.
• 36:50
  But even the escape back in Cosmic the the this character in
• 36:54
  Ox, Yeah, they're smaller, but they're still.
• 36:57
  You know, yeah, yeah, decent size.
• 36:59
  Decent size, Umm, the character in the second wave Bungie Uh,
• 37:03
  the second ox crew wave ox but the.
• 37:07
  We love. Ox crew too, umm, they really
• 37:11
  changed it up with just a small bit of extra stuff, like a
• 37:14
  different head and whatever, and yeah, slightly different
• 37:17
  configuration of coffee, the way they put them together.
• 37:20
  Yeah. And, and they've changed the
• 37:22
  kind of very menacing character into this little cute, really
• 37:25
  cool character. Yeah.
• 37:27
  You know, so that's kind of really cool Reuse.
• 37:30
  I love that. I love that, the way they did
• 37:32
  that and. You can have small amounts, you
• 37:34
  know, you can have like large flightless birds or something.
• 37:37
  You know which are, you know, you go that much on a shelf to
• 37:41
  to that much and you've still got a cool mount for a character
• 37:44
  to ride. And to be honest, one of the
• 37:47
  coolest things we've got in mythic business is the Moose
• 37:50
  Adler. He's not on display for me even.
• 37:53
  I I sold mine, but I just couldn't figure out a way of
• 37:56
  using him properly. So yeah, you'll.
• 38:00
  Regret that you'll regret that I have to fail in full swipes of
• 38:07
  10 and Prospero is the most boring mythic legions figure
• 38:11
  made so far. To me it looks only half
• 38:14
  finished in terms of colour and design, but somehow a lot of
• 38:17
  people like it. You probably don't own Thailand
• 38:21
  then. I would say if you think I've
• 38:23
  finished because definitely. I'd love to own her.
• 38:26
  I'm hoping we get a version two of her.
• 38:29
  Yeah, they've clearly never seen Ravenna or that female dwarf
• 38:33
  either. We're talking about boring.
• 38:37
  Yeah, back in the day when she was in fairly big in stock sale
• 38:44
  was her and Gwendolyn and Fustia were the only ones left and
• 38:50
  there was loads of them. And I remember at some stage I
• 38:53
  had some extra cash and I just ordered 5 of each and I sold
• 38:59
  them like over the next year easily, you know, not for a huge
• 39:05
  amount more, but more than I paid for them.
• 39:09
  And I kind of knew I would because once they were gone,
• 39:13
  they were gone, you know, And people go back to those
• 39:15
  characters. So they're really cool.
• 39:20
  So rich you you would say Ravenna more than Taylor
• 39:24
  possible here. You know me, I really don't like
• 39:26
  Ravenna at all. But that feat that first female
• 39:29
  dwarf as well, whose name I can't remember.
• 39:31
  Ragna. Yeah, that's a boring one too.
• 39:35
  Oh, ironically, friends with. So I didn't realise that's who
• 39:38
  you were talking about. I disagree.
• 39:40
  I really like Ragnar. I'm one of the few seems to like
• 39:44
  Ragnar. Even Eric doesn't like Ragnar
• 39:46
  any. Design I know which.
• 39:49
  Jim likes her. Jim's right.
• 39:55
  Next one some older parts should be retired.
• 39:58
  The Arthur lower legs and feet are my favourite but we don't
• 40:01
  need them anymore. Disagree.
• 40:04
  Totally disagree. More parts the better.
• 40:07
  I think I don't use them all the time, but dropping them in every
• 40:10
  now and again, yeah. I don't think I don't to be
• 40:13
  meant to retire when you have like a big steel mould that you
• 40:16
  paid 30 grand for or whatever back in the day and it's been
• 40:21
  used a bunch of times. But yet like like with the Erzak
• 40:26
  version 2, we've got new evil armour now.
• 40:29
  So that's a cool development and you can this feels between them.
• 40:33
  This feels a bit like someone who wants their older figures to
• 40:36
  be more collectible and worth more.
• 40:39
  Oh, maybe this is you, Rich. But I don't agree, no.
• 40:46
  Even if we've got new evil armour, it's good to have
• 40:49
  different types of evil armour, you know.
• 40:54
  The chest slash salt shoulders aren't brought enough on the
• 40:58
  males. Yeah.
• 41:02
  So yeah, wow. Not pretty big, yeah.
• 41:07
  Yeah, you know, any bigger and you start looking ridiculous.
• 41:11
  I would say people are more on the other end of this take.
• 41:14
  Yeah. No, I think for like Barbarians
• 41:19
  and stuff, you know, the mostly ones, they're perfect.
• 41:23
  And I would say that for if it's in terms of variety, maybe
• 41:27
  smaller is is where they need to go sometimes.
• 41:31
  And yeah, but yeah, like I'm glad when they made the cloth
• 41:35
  arms that they didn't make them with, you know, assuming that it
• 41:38
  was a big muscle inside it and then put the cloth on there.
• 41:41
  Agreed. And so that was a good choice.
• 41:47
  So we're disagreeing with this. 100%.
• 41:50
  I think the port on the back of the figures breaks up and
• 41:53
  otherwise great sculpt. Its utility is too underutilised
• 41:58
  for it to be needed on every figure.
• 42:02
  Kind of get what they're saying. Yeah, presume they're talking
• 42:07
  about the rectangular 1. Yeah, they're took, yeah.
• 42:10
  Having said, I mean they're right, it's pointless for most
• 42:13
  figures. Having said that, unless your
• 42:16
  figure is displayed with his back facing the front, it
• 42:18
  doesn't matter. And also, if you took it off, if
• 42:25
  you only did it on figures that need it, you reduce that ability
• 42:29
  to customise, which is a big part of the line, isn't it?
• 42:33
  So I don't know I. Don't like the way they've done
• 42:37
  it on EH, On KOI where you have yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:44
  I wouldn't mind the plug for it be tricky to do unlike the bare
• 42:49
  torso because how do you get it in like beauty of the?
• 42:54
  Of the. Dragon or fish type body is that
• 42:58
  it has a little fin that you can pull it in and out with.
• 43:00
  Yeah, yeah. Whereas this if it was just to
• 43:02
  make a flat smooth piece of armour or body trickier, the
• 43:12
  line could do with less humans. Rich, sorry.
• 43:15
  Yeah, sorry. It's difficult, isn't it?
• 43:21
  Because I mean, I, I, I, I like the creatures as much as the
• 43:26
  next person, but I also really like, I like the variety.
• 43:30
  Variety, that's what that as long as they have variety, I'm
• 43:33
  good. More different types of humans,
• 43:36
  I think would be a good thing to say.
• 43:38
  And, you know, so rather than all being Knights, yeah, yeah,
• 43:41
  you could have soldiers with leather tunics and that sort of
• 43:44
  thing just to break it up a little bit.
• 43:47
  I agree. With that, yeah.
• 43:50
  Yeah, I I tend to agree with you, Mel, 100% on this.
• 43:54
  That's a variety is the spice of life.
• 43:58
  I could do it more anthropomorphic characters for
• 44:01
  sure. Yes, yes, yeah.
• 44:02
  Or even, you know, I could like Kai Pascher or or Balam more
• 44:07
  where, you know, it is a basically human body with a cat
• 44:12
  head, with a dog head, whatever, you know, like our sculpts from
• 44:15
  last. Yeah.
• 44:16
  I mean, they could literally make every character in the line
• 44:19
  anthropomorphic and I'd be happy.
• 44:21
  So yeah, that's definitely a way to go.
• 44:26
  Right, next one. No female goblins.
• 44:30
  That is all. Is that that's what they want,
• 44:33
  or they're complaining there isn't?
• 44:36
  That's unclear. I would say yeah.
• 44:39
  I mean, there are no female goblins, so they get in the way.
• 44:42
  That's I would quite like. I don't know.
• 44:45
  Yeah, we don't quite like female goblin.
• 44:48
  Yeah, I think it'd be good, although they'll never talk what
• 44:50
  Wolf King did with that. That older female goblin and the
• 44:53
  saggy boobs. Whatever they do, they're never
• 44:55
  going to beat. That's gold.
• 44:57
  I mean, yeah, you're kind of right with that one, but and we
• 45:01
  need. Yeah, you know, they want female
• 45:03
  goblins. I've looked at the original
• 45:05
  message. Yeah, this is this is this is
• 45:08
  from a very big Goblin fan, so. Yeah, I know.
• 45:11
  I'd say Britain. The female goblins, definitely.
• 45:13
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why not?
• 45:15
  Again, Variety, and it'd be fun to see what they did with their
• 45:20
  faces, because to be fair, it normally posts quite attractive
• 45:25
  human female faces, so it'd be interesting to see what he did
• 45:28
  with goblins. Goblin fantasists that they're
• 45:32
  going to be like. Hard to get in Scandinavia.
• 45:42
  That's one or two people that could have posted this.
• 45:45
  Well, I, I mean, our two colleagues that go to, uh,
• 45:49
  legions con with us. Yeah, I think they're finally.
• 45:52
  They, they don't seem to have from I don't think it's hard to
• 45:55
  get in Scandinavia at all. Maybe expensive to get.
• 45:59
  Then it's, you know, you could be living in New Jersey and if
• 46:02
  you can't afford them, they're hard to get.
• 46:06
  If you can't afford to pay maybe import taxes or you don't want
• 46:10
  to deal with the admin around importing stuff from America, I
• 46:14
  get it. But it's you know, and if you
• 46:17
  live in Norway, yeah it's outside the EU.
• 46:19
  So there is a extra papers, but that is one of the richest
• 46:23
  countries in the world. So you know the.
• 46:25
  Last thing is that Scandinavians, you know,
• 46:27
  renowned for wealthy lifestyles, so probably.
• 46:30
  Because they don't buy make your responsible purchases like
• 46:34
  these. I don't really agree with this.
• 46:39
  I mean, the German retailers I checked, they shipped to
• 46:42
  Scandinavia. So again, that's just a process.
• 46:46
  So if you're in the EU, scan part of Scandinavia, then you
• 46:51
  just have to pay the shipping cost plus retail, which is not
• 46:54
  that difficult, let's be honest. Maybe this is someone new who's
• 46:57
  not aware of some of those. Maybe we should.
• 46:59
  Do an episode. About the different No, no, it's
• 47:01
  not all right to. Someone that just complaints
• 47:04
  about this problem all the time? I think I.
• 47:07
  Know I think it's their problem. No real complaints within 4
• 47:13
  horsemen. OK, this must be someone with it
• 47:15
  within the company apart from a certain amount of back slapping
• 47:19
  and favouritism. I don't know where to begin with
• 47:28
  comments like this. It's like some I don't know.
• 47:32
  So without without going on around, I don't know.
• 47:34
  I think the nicest, easiest, simple thing to say about this
• 47:38
  is people have to remember someone.
• 47:42
  I don't think there is favouritism.
• 47:43
  I think some of that favouritism is, is is misinterpreted.
• 47:47
  But two, some of the people in the cabal have been there for
• 47:52
  many, many years from day one of this line.
• 47:57
  Yeah. And some of those people are
• 48:01
  genuinely well, go out of their way to help everyone to, to be
• 48:07
  at any events they can be at, to support and help the horsemen,
• 48:11
  if that's part of what they're thinking of, that there's a lot
• 48:14
  of friendships in the cabal and people who know each other in
• 48:19
  person. So of course they're going to
• 48:20
  support that person. Those of us who are perhaps a
• 48:23
  bit further away, we don't, it's not as easy to, to do that.
• 48:28
  So maybe some of the people outside of the states or some of
• 48:33
  the newer people into the line even don't feel they, they get
• 48:37
  that. Well, just keep being part of
• 48:40
  the community. Keep going along, keep just and
• 48:44
  you will people take you on, people take you in you.
• 48:47
  You'll you'll find yourself involved if that's what it's all
• 48:52
  about to you, you know. I mean, what I'd say about this
• 48:56
  is, you know, there's two approaches to take.
• 48:58
  If you get in a boat, you can either roll with everyone else
• 49:01
  and and, you know, kind of find your place and kind of get in
• 49:05
  there and get stuck in and, you know, things will work out for
• 49:09
  you. Or you can go and say, right,
• 49:11
  I'm going to do this differently because I know better.
• 49:13
  I know different or, you know, I want to stand out.
• 49:15
  And that probably takes a longer time to get acceptance.
• 49:21
  You know, you have to be either exceptionally talented, but, you
• 49:24
  know, art or something like this, umm, to maybe jump the
• 49:29
  queue. But then we go.
• 49:30
  To favourite, isn't it? That's a lot of people.
• 49:33
  Recognise how community works, you know, yeah, someone's
• 49:36
  wrestling. Someone came into your local
• 49:38
  community and just said no, that's I know how to do
• 49:40
  everything better on the street, you know, or right, or, you
• 49:43
  know, have a look at all my stuff over here.
• 49:46
  You'd be like, well, you know, let's get to know you first.
• 49:49
  Let's get let's start with a cup of tea and see where we go
• 49:53
  first. And also back slapping what
• 49:57
  what, what they want. I I don't see back slapping.
• 50:01
  I see praise and, you know, giving.
• 50:05
  But it is the official group for the line.
• 50:07
  It should, it's not a complaints form, you know, even though
• 50:09
  people do complain in it and and you know, there was this,
• 50:13
  there's obviously this is where we took this post from, but I
• 50:15
  think, you know, this was all in, it was labelled unpopular
• 50:20
  opinions. It's it's kind of what you don't
• 50:23
  really want to say to, you know, in the kind of a single post.
• 50:27
  So you can just throw in this post and you can do what it
• 50:30
  wants in there. And, and actually it was a
• 50:32
  really, I forget who posted it originally, I'm sorry, but it
• 50:35
  was actually a fun thing to do. You know, the way it was done
• 50:39
  was in fun, wasn't it? And in in which whereas, you
• 50:42
  know, then the people go on and just bitch and moan, don't they?
• 50:45
  And we don't want that. Hank Miller was the Prince
• 50:48
  Miller. It was.
• 50:49
  It was really. Cool post when he did it.
• 50:51
  It was a fun post, well done Hank.
• 50:54
  But yeah, so I don't know. I don't have any more to say in
• 50:59
  this. I mean, no, no, it's supposed to
• 51:01
  be much positive. So yeah, yeah, I didn't like.
• 51:06
  Rain the beast. I mean this in the nicest bottle
• 51:13
  way, but this person's a moral. Say what you.
• 51:16
  Oh my God, Yeah, total totally agree.
• 51:22
  Yeah. It's just a ridiculously good
• 51:24
  wave of figures. Yeah, every figure in it is is
• 51:27
  brilliant. It's just like, yeah.
• 51:29
  Yeah, you can say oh, I didn't like 2 of the set men or ever so
• 51:32
  then, but to say I didn't like Rain and the beast is it's quite
• 51:35
  frankly ridiculous that. Yeah, I mean, then you really
• 51:38
  have a specific thing that you like, and if it's not it, then
• 51:43
  you know, OK, maybe Raina, the beasts could could step outside
• 51:46
  that. Or some easy in here and going.
• 51:48
  I really hate rising Suns. Well, I don't Barbarians are my
• 51:52
  favourite, but there's some good cat, you know, good looking
• 51:54
  figures in there and the other half of the Suns ones I
• 51:57
  absolutely love so. Yeah, exactly.
• 52:03
  Knee and elbow double joints should be pretty doable
• 52:06
  nowadays. Question mark.
• 52:08
  I mean, of course they're doable.
• 52:09
  It's an artistic choice more so than anything else.
• 52:13
  It's it's a balance of how it looks versus how it functions.
• 52:19
  And there's a line there, especially for a line like this
• 52:22
  with Knights and stuff. And now we get the 3.0 body with
• 52:26
  the, you know, werewolf type characters and Romans and stuff.
• 52:31
  So. What comments like this always,
• 52:34
  always made me think this is somebody that just doesn't pay
• 52:36
  attention to the group or what the horsemen do because it's
• 52:41
  been said count literally countless times.
• 52:45
  We could do double joints, but we're not going to generally
• 52:48
  because we don't like the way it breaks the aesthetic and that
• 52:50
  sort of stuff. So this is somebody just, you
• 52:52
  know, it's like, what is the point of this unpopular?
• 52:55
  You know, it's not an unpopular opinion.
• 52:57
  You're basically saying it's like saying, well, mythic lesion
• 53:00
  should include machine guns and aeroplanes.
• 53:03
  Yeah. It's just, it's that sort of
• 53:04
  statement. It's like that, no?
• 53:07
  You wonder what initially attracted that person to this
• 53:11
  line, don't you? Because I look at a line and if
• 53:14
  I don't like the way it. Well, as I've said many times
• 53:18
  in, I was a bit slow on the well, other than having to
• 53:21
  import everything from the States.
• 53:22
  At the time I was a bit slow on the pickup for Mythic Legions
• 53:26
  because I didn't like the hip joints.
• 53:29
  And then I got a couple actually, I think they're really
• 53:31
  cool. I think there's other lines that
• 53:33
  would look better with similar kind of hip joints.
• 53:37
  So yeah, you wonder what, mate? I wouldn't buy it if I didn't
• 53:40
  like the joints in it in the first place.
• 53:44
  So why are you buying them if you don't like the what them
• 53:47
  what what they give you, you know?
• 53:51
  It's like trying to change a line.
• 53:52
  It's like, you know, going inside Marvel Legends and that
• 53:55
  does have lots of double jointed and going well, you should go
• 53:57
  back to all single joints. It's ridiculous.
• 53:59
  You know, why would you go onto a forum and say.
• 54:01
  That but stage. There you go.
• 54:04
  Even even there are Marvel legends that have single joints.
• 54:08
  It depends on the character and the size and then you know, and
• 54:11
  all that, isn't it? No.
• 54:13
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate these arguments about
• 54:17
  joints. There you go, I don't need. 0.
• 54:22
  Bodies as the next card. You're going to hate Arc and the
• 54:27
  Cruel then. I sort of agree with this.
• 54:31
  I'm not going to throw my rattle out the pram over it but I, you
• 54:35
  know, we're doing fine with never.
• 54:36
  Guessing of them. However, sorry about how you
• 54:39
  carry on did. No, no, you, you carry on
• 54:42
  because I think I was. Going to say however, it's you
• 54:44
  know, it's fine humans, but you know with Windaji for instance,
• 54:49
  they look the sculpt, they blend in really well and look really
• 54:53
  good. So as long as they hold up fine
• 54:55
  and the movement then I'm fine with them.
• 54:57
  That, yeah, it's what I was going to say is I wouldn't go in
• 55:04
  saying, oh, we need them. But then it does open up
• 55:08
  possibilities for the characters and designs of characters so
• 55:12
  that they move in a way and that they might not otherwise do so.
• 55:17
  Such as the Mouse King, those arms.
• 55:24
  I couldn't imagine them not having those arms now, you know,
• 55:28
  And it worked really well there. And there's no way, the next
• 55:34
  one, there's no way that the humans won the Great War.
• 55:38
  Well, I mean, the guys that wrote the story said they did.
• 55:42
  And it wasn't just humans, it was humans, Elves.
• 55:45
  Exactly. You know, all sorts of
• 55:47
  anthropomorphic creatures. Users, yeah.
• 55:49
  It's, you know. Maybe Celine swooped in there as
• 55:52
  well. This was written by a real nerd.
• 55:58
  We'll. We'll find out who it is and
• 56:00
  bats and go, OK, if you can show us the Army compliments, then
• 56:03
  down to the down to the individual soldier, then we can
• 56:06
  have a proper discussion about it.
• 56:07
  But until that point, it's up to Eric who won.
• 56:10
  Yeah, true. And So what, Jeremy?
• 56:13
  I'm not Jeremy. Yes.
• 56:16
  Enough nights already. There are more characters that I
• 56:19
  would rather have. Sure, kind of agree with this
• 56:22
  one. Yeah, I don't disagree with this
• 56:23
  one, I have to admit. Love nights what got me into it
• 56:28
  a bit start for sure because there wasn't lines with Knights
• 56:32
  figures really especially that looked that good.
• 56:35
  So I think they should always sprinkle them in every now and
• 56:39
  then. But there may be when does like
• 56:42
  an ethron or a leisure focused wave that can get quite nighty I
• 56:50
  I. You know, I'm not the biggest
• 56:52
  night fan. I think the way the nights look
• 56:55
  now are exceptional and actually I prefer what they're doing now.
• 56:59
  Umm, But yeah, you know, I've, I think I've said I'm a bit tired
• 57:03
  of nights and ready for something else this year.
• 57:06
  But I mean, the last couple of big waves don't have that many
• 57:11
  nights in them. I mean, I know we have the night
• 57:14
  builder in the ashes about Bender, which is cool.
• 57:18
  And we also have the the Angel guy, Yosef.
• 57:22
  He's a kind of a knight as well. But yeah, right, next one.
• 57:28
  I prefer the plastic tunics tablets instead of the soft
• 57:31
  goods. No, I think so.
• 57:36
  I don't mind. I think it's the nice for
• 57:38
  painting. The painting option on them is
• 57:40
  is what I don't mind. Sorry, Ma, no.
• 57:44
  No, no, it's cool. It's cool.
• 57:46
  I would say I don't mind the meat.
• 57:47
  I don't mind some having plastic, some knotty, depending
• 57:50
  on what they're trying to, yeah. That's fine.
• 57:52
  Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I think soft goods are
• 57:55
  beautiful. So yeah, beautiful is a bit
• 57:59
  strong, but you know what I mean?
• 58:00
  Very, very nice. You the camera pans around the
• 58:04
  miles just got like a wall display of all the soft goods.
• 58:08
  Just just the tunics. It's so beautiful.
• 58:12
  Yeah, I mean, I suppose the main problem I see is if you using
• 58:16
  the figure for a custom or you know, making custom out of it
• 58:21
  and then you don't want to use the soft goods or you you need a
• 58:25
  different colour and then you have no part to cover the piece
• 58:29
  the holders left by taking away the soft goods.
• 58:33
  And then you kind of have to get another figure.
• 58:36
  And that can get, you know, if if you're deep in the hole with
• 58:39
  it is this isn't a problem. But if you're fairly new to it
• 58:42
  and you have bought a bunch of nights and you want to make
• 58:45
  different types of nights, the soft goods can restrict what you
• 58:49
  can do. You can paint the soft goods.
• 58:52
  Your mileage may vary though, or dye them.
• 58:59
  And I love the new scaphoid, but why does he have 4 linecloths?
• 59:05
  He's a skeleton. Not with Chamberlain.
• 59:07
  So what's he hiding? It's got a massive.
• 59:09
  Chamberlain. I guess Wilt Chamberlain is
• 59:12
  maybe somebody famous for having a packing.
• 59:16
  Oh, isn't we? Wasn't Will Chamberlain the umm,
• 59:19
  the basketball player? OK it.
• 59:22
  Was in Conan. What's not about Chamberlain?
• 59:24
  It's like 7 foot six or something.
• 59:26
  Like that, OK, Malcolm can look at that up.
• 59:29
  Uh, but who's got .2 is awesome. This does not bother me at all.
• 59:33
  Maybe he's hiding? This was a joke comment for
• 59:36
  sure. Maybe he's hiding his demon wank
• 59:39
  Jeremy. Maybe is, Yeah.
• 59:40
  Yeah. Sorry, Jeremy, you have to
• 59:41
  listen further to do your count this week.
• 59:45
  And right here's a long one. We should have had waves and
• 59:51
  figures dedicated to fully fleshing out the First Great War
• 59:54
  before we moved on. I'm going to get the book, but
• 1:00:02
  I'd rather have the figures associated with the stories and
• 1:00:04
  the battles than just the story you're telling me.
• 1:00:08
  Gonks and gracious stories don't have new races or characters.
• 1:00:13
  We also didn't get that many Templars this past year,
• 1:00:17
  especially with how diverse their.
• 1:00:19
  Looks should be oh God. I was very numb for the
• 1:00:24
  information in the last bit, but it it sounds like it.
• 1:00:29
  I, I I. Love the Templars, but we've had
• 1:00:31
  a lot of templars recently. And that have diverse that white
• 1:00:35
  tunic and a Red Cross can be come on get real.
• 1:00:41
  But I don't necessarily disagree the sentiment over and, but I
• 1:00:46
  haven't. Really got like 250 figures of
• 1:00:49
  before the 1st Great War. What I act, but what I actually
• 1:00:54
  think they're asking for recent what they saying we need either
• 1:00:58
  because what they want is more it reads like what they actually
• 1:01:03
  want is I want to know more about Gonks.
• 1:01:06
  I want to know more about Grisha and their part in it all.
• 1:01:10
  They don't want the overall story, which is what that first
• 1:01:13
  bit says. So which actually themed waves
• 1:01:19
  around a particular story of someone would be cool, and I
• 1:01:22
  think we're going to kind of get them anyway, so.
• 1:01:25
  Yeah, yeah, I mean, well written.
• 1:01:31
  This would be a good argument in court, uh, in regards to the
• 1:01:39
  cabal, we should be able to curse, uh, no kids are in this
• 1:01:43
  group. And if you're showing off posts,
• 1:01:45
  uh, to your own, to your own kids, you should be screening
• 1:01:50
  what's been commented. We're all a bunch of 30 plus
• 1:01:53
  year old dudes that can't curse really question mark.
• 1:01:57
  I mean, yeah, I think just some people don't like cursing.
• 1:02:00
  So you know. Quite frankly, and I'm going to
• 1:02:03
  sound like a snob here, it's a poor grasp in the English
• 1:02:06
  language if you can't come in on stuff without swearing.
• 1:02:09
  But that's that's the. Question I mean then I must have
• 1:02:12
  very bad English in in my. Just Irish, John, you're just
• 1:02:15
  Irish put. Me wrong, you guys you guys have
• 1:02:19
  been around me for quite some time.
• 1:02:20
  You know, I like to swear, but at the same time at no point in
• 1:02:23
  the felt, oh God, I can't be in the cabal because I can't be on
• 1:02:25
  left, right and centre. It's just like I just don't.
• 1:02:28
  Care I've got No, I don't need throat.
• 1:02:30
  This is fucking brilliant. Excuse my language.
• 1:02:34
  There's a beat for you, John. Yeah, I'm.
• 1:02:38
  Not going to do it. We.
• 1:02:42
  Don't get any money anyway. Yeah, except Patreon.
• 1:02:46
  Thank you. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely a
• 1:02:52
  valid argument, but I think it's just we don't need to be able to
• 1:02:57
  curse. Like we don't curse on this show
• 1:02:59
  just so that it's everybody can listen to it.
• 1:03:02
  Just generally we don't generally.
• 1:03:04
  Yeah. Like if I spoke like normal
• 1:03:07
  day-to-day, like I'm in a pub in this, not normal day-to-day like
• 1:03:11
  I do at home, but you know, in a pub with a bunch of mates, then
• 1:03:16
  yeah, this wouldn't be very easy to listen to.
• 1:03:18
  No, I mean, we did that one show, didn't we, with the wives
• 1:03:20
  going to kill me boys and let ourselves off the leash there
• 1:03:23
  and I was dropping the F bomb here, there and everywhere.
• 1:03:25
  But that's because of who they are and like, you know, having a
• 1:03:29
  joke with them sort of thing. But there's no need for general.
• 1:03:31
  Yeah, I just didn't want to tell them.
• 1:03:33
  They couldn't curse. I wasn't brave enough, didn't
• 1:03:37
  know them well enough at that stage.
• 1:03:39
  I don't think they'd have been able to help it to be fair, no.
• 1:03:45
  Right, anyway, moving on, I hate skeletons with hair is the next
• 1:03:49
  one. Is there skeletons with hair
• 1:03:52
  Thoracis? Is he a hair under the helmet?
• 1:03:56
  If they mean beards, you've got a beard.
• 1:03:59
  He's got a beard, yeah. I see.
• 1:04:02
  It's just a bit of fun, isn't it?
• 1:04:04
  I don't mind at all. Get a life, but I want it.
• 1:04:06
  To be, I don't want it to be like a full Afro or you know,
• 1:04:10
  like. Oh God, that was going to come
• 1:04:12
  after, you know you. Said that he's going to be like
• 1:04:14
  straight. On you again, I want an Afro.
• 1:04:16
  Yeah, I might be down for that. I, I wanted to be, you know,
• 1:04:20
  this really decomposed like hair is just strands, maybe not not
• 1:04:27
  really a full head affair like a knight, handsome knight might
• 1:04:30
  have. I don't know.
• 1:04:33
  I don't really mind if the if the sculpt looks good, I'll take
• 1:04:37
  a skeleton with that. You wouldn't be jealous.
• 1:04:41
  I'm always jealous, but there, there we go.
• 1:04:44
  You were waiting for it. You were waiting for it.
• 1:04:46
  I know. I think.
• 1:04:47
  Didn't we accidentally skip a slide?
• 1:04:49
  I felt like I saw something about colours of armour.
• 1:04:52
  Or something. Oh, did I?
• 1:04:54
  Oh yeah right, I don't care about having the colours of
• 1:04:58
  parts be slightly different from each other.
• 1:05:01
  I'm not fussed by it, but I'd rather they keep the colour
• 1:05:04
  consistent across the board so we can have flawless prop and
• 1:05:07
  swaps like Lee J, Magnus and Valgar 2 should all have the
• 1:05:10
  same gold. I think I I understand the
• 1:05:14
  point, but it would be pretty boring.
• 1:05:17
  The extremely problem, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:21
  Yeah, we know pop and swap, but you don't leave an army,
• 1:05:24
  everyone will say. I think maybe a few more having
• 1:05:28
  similar gold wouldn't be like they are all different gold
• 1:05:32
  which is. Annoying.
• 1:05:34
  Because as I was shown you during the week, I have a bunch
• 1:05:36
  of gold paints and have them all kind of put on a piece of card,
• 1:05:41
  you know, over black primer, and none of them directly match the
• 1:05:46
  gold. There's the Citadel Gold
• 1:05:48
  Retributor armour, which kind of matches a lot of the goals if
• 1:05:52
  you play with washes over it, but you know, even the Gideon
• 1:05:56
  Gold, that's different again. You know, it's yeah, it's
• 1:06:00
  difficult, isn't it? It's first and foremost meant to
• 1:06:02
  be a cool looking toy action figure line.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah, the part, that's what's. The thing, yeah, it's nice to
• 1:06:09
  have thing, isn't it really? So yeah, even it's even like the
• 1:06:16
  Silvers and the Templars, they're different, but I think
• 1:06:19
  that does make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:23
  And you can also mix a match a bit anyway and just, you know,
• 1:06:25
  if someone's on the battlefield and maybe they're, you know,
• 1:06:29
  their arm armour gets badly damaged, they might need to swap
• 1:06:32
  it out and they can't get a new bit to match it.
• 1:06:34
  So they just pick up something else that doesn't quite match,
• 1:06:37
  you know, that's. It's one of the things I don't.
• 1:06:39
  I don't completely disagree, but I'd rather have a cool figure
• 1:06:43
  than whether I can pop and swap it.
• 1:06:45
  Yeah, play. If you're doing Toy for Dover,
• 1:06:47
  you just play with the lighting and you'll get something close.
• 1:06:51
  That's what a lot of the good customizers do, and they're
• 1:06:54
  taking those beautiful pictures of the paint matches they've
• 1:06:56
  done. But when you see them in person,
• 1:06:58
  they might be as matched as it looked in the really beautiful
• 1:07:02
  photo. And so we've done here.
• 1:07:07
  The paint and sculpt are not a substitute for good articulation
• 1:07:11
  in an action figure. Don't buy them then.
• 1:07:14
  Yeah, I would say, let's say it depends what you like.
• 1:07:18
  And so if you're really into well painted figures, like my
• 1:07:24
  point about the Masters movie figures that they've teased,
• 1:07:28
  like the paint is just so bad that I don't care how much
• 1:07:31
  articulation is on. A lot of.
• 1:07:33
  Well, they for my taste, yeah. No, in a similar vein, I think
• 1:07:39
  until recently a lot of black series with paint on them as
• 1:07:44
  garbage. Umm, really bad.
• 1:07:48
  So I've never gone anywhere near them.
• 1:07:49
  I've started to pick up the odd one now because they paint and
• 1:07:53
  the scope to get well. The scope to be fair has always
• 1:07:55
  been well and that's been up and down as well on the but so you
• 1:08:00
  know. It's a line like that relies on
• 1:08:03
  a lot of likenesses and similarities to to whatever is
• 1:08:07
  in a movie. So that's how the scope needs to
• 1:08:09
  be. On point.
• 1:08:10
  Yeah, here. The sculpt needs to be cool, you
• 1:08:14
  know? Yeah.
• 1:08:14
  Yeah. Otherwise you may just get a
• 1:08:16
  bendy plastic rod and just play with that.
• 1:08:19
  Look at articulates really well, doesn't matter what it looks
• 1:08:21
  like. Or those rubber and, you know,
• 1:08:24
  those Stretch Armstrong. Yeah.
• 1:08:28
  Look, I've tied his arms together.
• 1:08:30
  It doesn't matter what the sculpts.
• 1:08:31
  Like, yeah, my kids used to have the those really stretchy ones
• 1:08:35
  that they're, they're out these days.
• 1:08:37
  They called again something goo or something or.
• 1:08:41
  I know which ones you mean, Yeah.
• 1:08:42
  Umm. Yeah, they have the little, uh,
• 1:08:46
  like balls inside them to kind of, yeah, you know, different
• 1:08:49
  textures stuff and they're kind of cool as well, but they're
• 1:08:53
  completely rubber, you know? I must have it so.
• 1:08:55
  I've I've I've always picked one up when I've had the one around.
• 1:08:59
  They're bad toys. Really.
• 1:09:00
  You know, I know need need beefy ladies and more soft goods.
• 1:09:06
  I mean real life or. Yes, yes.
• 1:09:14
  Yes, yes, yes. I mean, yeah, we could, we could
• 1:09:18
  definitely get the the 1.0 more 1.0 scale ladies now.
• 1:09:24
  Yeah, as as we go along. I'll be done with that.
• 1:09:28
  Yeah, no problem with. That yeah, the variety in the
• 1:09:33
  female faces is abysmally lacking.
• 1:09:36
  Wow. I do like Trace Bluett and the
• 1:09:40
  Ghost of Christmas Past, but not every female figure needs to
• 1:09:44
  look like them. I think we've, we've poked at
• 1:09:47
  this over the time on the podcast and it's a question of
• 1:09:52
  reuse versus how popular the cell and stuff like that.
• 1:09:56
  I'm sure they'd love to do all sorts of different female faces.
• 1:10:00
  And we have Gadriel that's a very different looking female.
• 1:10:06
  And do we have any new ones now that are using I mean the
• 1:10:12
  mermaid? Lady Yeah, is is the one from
• 1:10:16
  Horror Vine. Somal's very diff I mean.
• 1:10:18
  It grains an. Attractive.
• 1:10:20
  It won't be great. I mean, people going on about
• 1:10:22
  how it looked almost anime, weren't they?
• 1:10:24
  So yeah, including us. So, so I think we're getting
• 1:10:27
  there. I think it's just a question of
• 1:10:28
  reuse. We don't have a super amount of
• 1:10:31
  male faces either. You know that really This is why
• 1:10:34
  the face inserts the face plates on the cosmic heads back are
• 1:10:40
  proving, you know, we're proved very popular because you can
• 1:10:44
  know have more variety in the you know, the Knights faces and
• 1:10:49
  stuff like that. There you go.
• 1:10:51
  Are we perhaps missing feminine? I'm not sure this is what this
• 1:10:56
  person means, but are we perhaps missing feminine?
• 1:10:59
  Feline faces, for example, and feminine.
• 1:11:04
  We've got one demon, female demon, but there aren't a lot
• 1:11:07
  of. We've got one female or or two
• 1:11:11
  because we've got the pack, didn't we?
• 1:11:12
  But so maybe, yeah, another fit, so maybe that's where we're
• 1:11:15
  lacking is a bit of females that aren't human.
• 1:11:19
  Yeah, and we have some helmeted ones, or half helmeted ones
• 1:11:23
  even. Yeah, like Cassie has half
• 1:11:26
  helmeted, isn't she? Yeah.
• 1:11:27
  Yeah and yeah. John, can I take us back to a
• 1:11:32
  previous question just for a moment?
• 1:11:33
  So your name Wilt, Wilt Chamberlain came up.
• 1:11:35
  Oh yeah, quick bit of Googling while you guys are talking about
• 1:11:39
  ladies faces and apparently he was nicknamed Wilt the Stilt
• 1:11:45
  which should should give you a clue as as to his thing was.
• 1:11:48
  That a middle leg stilt. I think it was and slept with
• 1:11:51
  the reported 20,000. Ladies, right, OK.
• 1:11:56
  So there you go. Well, I don't know how he
• 1:11:59
  managed that. I don't know whether to say well
• 1:12:02
  done or sorry. And he was also interning the
• 1:12:04
  barbarian, so yeah. OK, You were you were in the
• 1:12:08
  ballpark there then. Yeah.
• 1:12:10
  I wonder where they hide. It is still under the under the
• 1:12:13
  loincloth. I've also now got on my search
• 1:12:16
  history a an article talking about famous sporting penises,
• 1:12:20
  so that that could throw the algorithm out slightly.
• 1:12:24
  That's your personal phone. So I think that's that's.
• 1:12:30
  Our new Patreon show Dick on Dicks.
• 1:12:35
  Wang on Wang. Chinese, though, is.
• 1:12:40
  It well, we might expand into the Chinese market or they'll
• 1:12:45
  think we're incredibly, uh, London.
• 1:12:47
  Malcolm Bisciotti. So the first, the first sentence
• 1:12:52
  of this or half sentence of this really, it doesn't sound good
• 1:12:58
  taking take an idea from wrestling figures.
• 1:13:02
  Don't know when that was ever a good idea.
• 1:13:04
  The hands are softer, plastic OK and easier to use with weapons.
• 1:13:09
  If you remember GI Joes with Kung Fu grip.
• 1:13:12
  Some of the wrestling figures have hands like that.
• 1:13:16
  Kung Fu grip anyone? Oh no, I think it was like that,
• 1:13:21
  wasn't it? Really is one of those shows.
• 1:13:26
  I do remember talking about Kung Fu grip with GI Joes but.
• 1:13:32
  Yeah, I think it makes sense. I mean, plastic for the hands,
• 1:13:35
  definitely. Works and the ogre hands,
• 1:13:36
  definitely. They're a son of a gun that's
• 1:13:38
  trying to get a weapon in the. That's that's what I'd say,
• 1:13:41
  yeah. The bigger they get, the softer
• 1:13:43
  they could do with. But I wonder if there's a
• 1:13:45
  technical production reason for that, you know?
• 1:13:51
  I'm sure there is. Chris seems to know his
• 1:13:52
  plastics, doesn't that? Yeah.
• 1:13:55
  It's a difficult 1, isn't it? Because I'd rather it held the.
• 1:13:59
  Sword. And constantly held the sword.
• 1:14:02
  Then eventually the sword started to droop as the plastic
• 1:14:06
  in the hand got softer and all warmed up or.
• 1:14:10
  Yeah, I next one. I do not like soft goods on
• 1:14:17
  action figures, especially at this smaller scale.
• 1:14:20
  Wow. Was just Curtis.
• 1:14:26
  He's well known. Hatred like that anymore.
• 1:14:29
  His wife sold two. His wife sold 200 and something
• 1:14:32
  cakes. He's changed now.
• 1:14:34
  Him saying a long time back that he didn't like he.
• 1:14:37
  I think at some point, though, he did say changed his mind.
• 1:14:39
  Yeah. There too.
• 1:14:43
  All right. Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:45
  Yeah, I know. There were, Yeah.
• 1:14:48
  What I would say is I think cloaks sometimes are a waste
• 1:14:54
  because they're so big. Again, unless you're posing them
• 1:14:56
  in a really dynamic pose on your shelf with a cloak flowing in
• 1:15:00
  all directions, however, then it's a bit pointless.
• 1:15:05
  But you know, I'm never going to complain about soft goods.
• 1:15:08
  It's just like, yeah, it's using those.
• 1:15:11
  I mean like Nesco has done at an even smaller scale than this,
• 1:15:15
  and I'd say scale is not the problem here.
• 1:15:18
  I mean, it's not even the best. I mean, although I love him,
• 1:15:22
  he's not even the best figure. But you know, this guy's all
• 1:15:26
  soft goods and he's got weirdly proportioned legs, but I and
• 1:15:31
  they're not the best soft goods. But I think he looks really good
• 1:15:34
  anyway, so well does it for me. There are faults with him for
• 1:15:39
  sure, but. Yeah.
• 1:15:44
  OK, this is a horrible view by the way.
• 1:15:50
  Back to the questions umm, next one being 3G con waves just get
• 1:16:00
  3 orders is absurd OK, I'll go back to that one being 3G con
• 1:16:05
  waves deep in pre-orders is absurd yeah it's I mean we've
• 1:16:11
  kind of touched on this in the last time we.
• 1:16:13
  Have recently, haven't we? Yeah.
• 1:16:15
  So we're getting we're getting a lot of stuff landing now.
• 1:16:18
  So I think hopefully if we if we are maybe a year down the road
• 1:16:23
  and it's the same again, then that'd be a pity.
• 1:16:27
  But things seem to be arriving now and you know, hopefully we
• 1:16:31
  catch up and see they might, they might think we're getting
• 1:16:38
  less tooling on the next G con waves to.
• 1:16:42
  But then people complain about yeah, yeah, new parts.
• 1:16:49
  Yeah, as you said, John, sorry. I apologise for interrupting.
• 1:16:51
  They are, you know, they're catching up.
• 1:16:53
  Once you've caught up a bit, it's fine.
• 1:16:55
  Three waves is a bit ridiculous, but as long as you keep away
• 1:16:58
  from that going forward it be fine.
• 1:17:01
  I don't really care about character slash faction slash
• 1:17:03
  door because I make up my own anyway.
• 1:17:05
  You. Can't do any half.
• 1:17:06
  A way. Yeah, Fair enough.
• 1:17:08
  Yeah, fair. Enough the gladiators with one
• 1:17:10
  arm in armour have such a skinny arm compared to the huge flecks
• 1:17:14
  on the bare arm. I mean we kind of touched on
• 1:17:18
  this. Yeah, if you have the big mostly
• 1:17:24
  bare arm then the Knights arm does look a bit too thin maybe.
• 1:17:29
  Yeah, it does a little bit, but I never thought about.
• 1:17:32
  I mean, you're talking one of my favourite characters, if not my
• 1:17:37
  favourite character is like that and I don't mind it.
• 1:17:40
  So yeah. Yeah.
• 1:17:42
  But maybe if we ever get a brood scale night, then we can do a
• 1:17:48
  bit of that. Yeah, mix and imagine.
• 1:17:51
  And you know, the arm that's not armour is going to do more
• 1:17:53
  moving around and fighting. So you know you're going to
• 1:17:56
  build that up. You're going to have a bigger.
• 1:17:58
  Yeah, exactly right. I can't.
• 1:18:04
  Believe they. Can't believe they're releasing
• 1:18:08
  new figures with weapons from the first Kickstarter.
• 1:18:12
  This is again on the weapons. Yeah, we could always do more
• 1:18:17
  weapons, but at the same time most of the weapons they have
• 1:18:21
  are great and they have dropped some of the weapons like the big
• 1:18:26
  axe, the new yeah, all the new axes are better yet, so.
• 1:18:33
  And we're getting a steady stream of new swords and stuff
• 1:18:37
  like that, Daggers, so. I kind of hope we get that
• 1:18:42
  Mallius version two this year because he is currently on my
• 1:18:45
  shelf in this position because he can't hold the axes his lean.
• 1:18:50
  Axes are propping him up, but yeah, they're open him up.
• 1:18:52
  Exactly they are. Yeah, yeah, old man Mallius.
• 1:18:55
  Yeah. That very few people truly care
• 1:19:00
  to see what the new figures you got in the mail are bought at
• 1:19:04
  Legions Con. OK, so people are posting their
• 1:19:07
  latest scores. I think that's probably true.
• 1:19:13
  But you know, you're excited about it.
• 1:19:15
  And if you're like a lot of us, you live somewhere that is not
• 1:19:20
  near any other people that are into the hobby.
• 1:19:23
  So yes. You want to post one of the one
• 1:19:27
  thing I think probably I'm probably going to make myself
• 1:19:30
  really unpopular or have somebody say something about.
• 1:19:33
  One of the ones that always kills me is when someone shows
• 1:19:37
  off a figure they've bought and received and go, oh, I'm so
• 1:19:42
  thankful to such and such for me.
• 1:19:44
  And you're like, you paid for it.
• 1:19:45
  Why are you thankful? Yeah, that was annoying.
• 1:19:48
  Yeah. Also, I'm wondering if this
• 1:19:50
  person doesn't go to legions con ands little legions con dig at
• 1:19:54
  the end there. Yeah.
• 1:19:56
  What? You bought Allegiance con?
• 1:19:58
  It's just like, all right, yeah, calm down.
• 1:20:00
  I as I say, I kind of get this one because as much as I like
• 1:20:03
  some of the people and I'm pleased for them, I don't, I
• 1:20:06
  don't need to see, you know, I get mates or send.
• 1:20:09
  Them in your private. Look what I got.
• 1:20:11
  And I'm like, yeah, right, my. Advice would be posting your
• 1:20:13
  private chat threads. If you're new, sure, go away or
• 1:20:17
  go ahead. And of course, I'm in the in the
• 1:20:19
  groups, yeah. Everyone on our discord who
• 1:20:21
  likes to post their new halls you carry straight on.
• 1:20:24
  I'm not referring to you. Yeah.
• 1:20:26
  Yeah, that's different. This 10.
• 1:20:30
  This is controversial with the damned promo shots make the
• 1:20:32
  upcoming figures looks way better than what I put on my
• 1:20:35
  shelf. There's still awesome toys that
• 1:20:38
  I can't stop buying, but it's like expecting to put out a
• 1:20:40
  sideshow error there on your chef when you're then putting up
• 1:20:44
  a poorly pose. Poorly.
• 1:20:46
  That figure in five POA stance. They just can't live up to the
• 1:20:49
  expectation that Trevor sets. This is a compliment Trevor lol.
• 1:20:54
  I mean, I think the figures are as good looking as in the promo
• 1:20:58
  shots. Yeah, this may be the poses and
• 1:21:01
  the scenes. Better with the up most
• 1:21:03
  respected Trevor. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:21:08
  You might have a really poorly lit display room, you know?
• 1:21:12
  Maybe invest in more lighting and a few more backgrounds by a
• 1:21:16
  die or two and you this. Is how most of my figures
• 1:21:19
  opposed exactly like this? Yeah, that's me too.
• 1:21:23
  There's a lot of that pose going on and I think he looks great.
• 1:21:26
  Still. So you know.
• 1:21:31
  Amazing. Yeah, I think this is a is a
• 1:21:36
  very it's a nice it's a good point, but it's I think yeah,
• 1:21:40
  maybe it's your you need to up your display and well, the
• 1:21:45
  figures with tails drive me crazy because of how the tail
• 1:21:48
  joint is designed hard as hell to install and then somehow
• 1:21:50
  easily comes out with minimal posing.
• 1:21:54
  Yeah, it I mean, the tails do frustrate me when they come out
• 1:21:59
  in the mean is not too bad, but they can be annoying with my
• 1:22:04
  mouse king tail. Now it's just I just took it out
• 1:22:07
  because it's always coming out. No, really.
• 1:22:10
  No, I think if I put him in his pose on the shelf and just left
• 1:22:13
  him, he'd be fine. But if I.
• 1:22:16
  Touch him at all. It's coming out.
• 1:22:18
  When I've had most difficulty with his Monkey King just
• 1:22:21
  because it's so long. Yeah, but even that's not been
• 1:22:25
  too bad. It's more how to pose it so it's
• 1:22:27
  not covering so much of the shelf.
• 1:22:31
  But yeah, you. Haven't noticed this with the
• 1:22:34
  figures line in the attic original.
• 1:22:39
  No, the the I think probably 2 figures with tails.
• 1:22:42
  I've actually got us standing up on display at the moment.
• 1:22:44
  They seem fine. Too fair, I've got to say.
• 1:22:46
  You're you're Ben gave us the best way of posing some of the
• 1:22:49
  tails and, yeah, curling it round.
• 1:22:51
  Yeah, it was. That was true stroke.
• 1:22:53
  A genius, yeah, and Ninion tails have never had a problem with.
• 1:22:56
  Funny one that I like the regular neck better than the
• 1:23:00
  hinged 1. I mean, there is one thing with
• 1:23:05
  the hinged 1 is that sometimes if you're trying to just put the
• 1:23:07
  head on, it can slide forward and then oh.
• 1:23:10
  That's a pain in the ass. Yeah.
• 1:23:12
  And then once the heads on, it's really hard to get it back into
• 1:23:15
  the right position again. Yeah, I kind of it.
• 1:23:20
  Depends on the 1st. World problem, but it can be
• 1:23:22
  extremely frustrating when you can't get the head on and.
• 1:23:25
  Sleeves. I can't swap parts with Goliath.
• 1:23:30
  Oh dear. Poor Mark 4 horsemen could stand
• 1:23:40
  to have their joints just a touch tiger.
• 1:23:43
  Domestic figures have ratcheted joints to prevent shelf diving,
• 1:23:47
  so why not 4 horsemen? Lord knows their big figures
• 1:23:51
  can't even support their own weight, so it baffles me that
• 1:23:53
  they haven't gone to this in this particular area.
• 1:23:58
  Gotten with the times. I would argue this is what I
• 1:24:04
  would say. There's a little bit of
• 1:24:05
  inconsistency in tightness across joints across the line.
• 1:24:10
  And it's not about the type of, it's not about the part.
• 1:24:13
  I don't know whether it's to do with tooling temperatures,
• 1:24:16
  something because some things with the same legs are looser on
• 1:24:22
  on one figure than on another. But I'd argue at points they're
• 1:24:29
  scarily tight. Yeah, I think on the ogre skin
• 1:24:35
  nights they should have been better.
• 1:24:37
  Yeah, I understand what people are saying about the ankle.
• 1:24:40
  Job and don't have a problem with the with the regular
• 1:24:44
  figures in 95% of the time and 2.0 can sometimes be a bit too
• 1:24:50
  tight. Also it's going to depend where
• 1:24:52
  you live isn't it realistically because in a hotter climate
• 1:24:56
  everything's going to be looser and move more easily because the
• 1:24:59
  plastics warmer. Nobody is making you buy them,
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  but you still do. Yeah.
• 1:25:09
  This is kind of yet saying, do you really?
• 1:25:13
  Are you really allowed to complain?
• 1:25:15
  Yeah, Yeah. I mean.
• 1:25:23
  Right, I'm going on, eh, you, you've formed that thought, eh?
• 1:25:27
  The fact that you have to cook your figures in the water bath,
• 1:25:29
  they actually put these instructions.
• 1:25:31
  The baggage is weird. No other toy line does that.
• 1:25:34
  That's not true and I have multiple toys where it tells you
• 1:25:37
  to heat up. Also, these toys are unique.
• 1:25:41
  They're totally pop. Pop and swappable.
• 1:25:44
  Yeah. So there is a purpose.
• 1:25:47
  Yeah. Do you do that?
• 1:25:49
  It's not weird necessarily. Maybe at the toy line you should
• 1:25:51
  do that. Well, I can.
• 1:25:53
  Figure out and snap it the leg in half and you're like oh OK.
• 1:25:56
  And and a number of the Japanese import figures do say warm up be
• 1:26:01
  figures before you manipulate them so.
• 1:26:05
  Yeah. Not that I bought them, but I've
• 1:26:09
  seen. Yeah, I saw.
• 1:26:10
  Reviews Remember I sent you an Instagram Reel this week?
• 1:26:14
  Guy trying to take a gauntlet off a Captain America figure and
• 1:26:19
  it was like a wrestling match. Yeah, I was like.
• 1:26:23
  Screwdrivers. Yeah, this makes me appreciate
• 1:26:27
  it takes. Too much reuse of her parts.
• 1:26:31
  But it kills costs, so I guess they understand it.
• 1:26:36
  I think it's just part of the lines, part of the toy industry.
• 1:26:40
  We could have less figures, maybe with the.
• 1:26:44
  I think the horsemen are one of the most open and honest about
• 1:26:48
  parts reuse but actually you look at your GI Joe who's and
• 1:26:52
  half of them have got the same legs.
• 1:26:56
  Yeah, Marvel Legends they use, Yeah, reuse the parts all the
• 1:26:59
  time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  In fact. And I'd argue it's just harder
• 1:27:04
  to see in some lines because there's less detail in the
• 1:27:06
  sculpts and less paint and blah blah blah.
• 1:27:09
  I'd say 90% of the time I don't care, Especially if there's a
• 1:27:15
  new head sculpt, then I really don't care.
• 1:27:18
  Yeah. You know, a new head sculpt and
• 1:27:20
  different paint. I'm easy to please.
• 1:27:24
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:27:24
  You know, So if there was one new part on any figure, I'd say
• 1:27:28
  head sculpt, please. You know, 90% of the time the
• 1:27:33
  animal people don't interest me. OK get out of here.
• 1:27:40
  Perhaps it's just me. I feel like there hasn't been a
• 1:27:43
  pretty significant dry spells for certain races and factions.
• 1:27:47
  I know on a long enough timeline it will resolve itself.
• 1:27:52
  They get a niche for something and I feel like most of the
• 1:27:56
  existing ones are out of print or live on the cosmic side.
• 1:28:02
  This is varied female characters.
• 1:28:05
  Yeah, I think it is. Just play the long game on this
• 1:28:07
  one. You'll get what you want
• 1:28:08
  eventually. And you know, we see the waves
• 1:28:12
  taking, you know, a bit longer than normal at the moment.
• 1:28:14
  Hopefully that'll sort itself out.
• 1:28:16
  But yeah, if we want new tooling and different variety of stuff,
• 1:28:20
  then it does just take its time. Yeah, also it's 250 figures.
• 1:28:25
  If you have 250 figures and you got humans, elves, vampires,
• 1:28:29
  wolves, goblins and orcs. I mean, some people might like
• 1:28:32
  that, but that's a lot of the same sort of thing over and over
• 1:28:36
  again. Yeah, varieties of spice of
• 1:28:38
  life. It's funnily enough one of the
• 1:28:40
  things I think they may be trying to address, yeah, whether
• 1:28:44
  it's consciously or not, with this removal of the Faction V
• 1:28:49
  faction. Yeah, maybe.
• 1:28:52
  Waves, whatever, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:55
  Also the RPG I think will help. Yeah, I feel as though the four
• 1:29:01
  gods should have been a bit taller than the normal ones.
• 1:29:03
  I think they got a horse to sit on.
• 1:29:06
  Yeah, but I mean, even Jeremy, I think is so we might been
• 1:29:10
  Jeremy. I can't remember who said
• 1:29:11
  actually, yeah, our theory, if they were, you know, doing it
• 1:29:15
  now, they'd probably do it differently.
• 1:29:16
  So yeah, yeah, it depends their character.
• 1:29:19
  All the product of their particular time in the line and
• 1:29:22
  it's cool, yeah, in that. Way you know what I would argue
• 1:29:26
  a Lithia and. Necronominus cronominus, a part
• 1:29:31
  of the road size. Yeah, wouldn't do anything.
• 1:29:32
  But I think so too. Umm, I did not use the armoured
• 1:29:39
  legs on Poxus, but otherwise I think he's great.
• 1:29:42
  It's Arathea, isn't? It is, but he was the first one.
• 1:29:45
  Was the first one. You should have on a brute body,
• 1:29:48
  yeah. Then yeah.
• 1:29:50
  You know, he was at a time when the line that, you know, just
• 1:29:54
  started to come out of not even Kickstarter to kind of grow.
• 1:29:57
  So yeah, yeah, eh. Goblins at the heart of mythos.
• 1:30:01
  Every other group is simply background noise.
• 1:30:03
  So they can have I can't, I can't champion this goblin.
• 1:30:09
  We're not a goblin, eh? Broadcasts, you know.
• 1:30:12
  I don't mind the goblin. I like the little fellas.
• 1:30:15
  Yeah, I love and a lot of the fans are Kirby, one of our
• 1:30:18
  biggest fans, eh, commenting every week on the show.
• 1:30:21
  But yeah, I think all factions are great.
• 1:30:26
  Goblins are one of them. Yeah.
• 1:30:29
  Except for everything. And according to them, unmasked
• 1:30:33
  helmeted heads are too big for my taste.
• 1:30:35
  Love. Them, they're my favourite,
• 1:30:38
  yeah. And some people are saying the
• 1:30:40
  helmets are not the right. The heads are too big for the
• 1:30:42
  helmets so can't please. Say you're getting really done
• 1:30:47
  to it there, aren't you? If someone if you've got a
• 1:30:49
  figure holding a helmet in his hand with an unhelmeted head and
• 1:30:53
  you go, oh, that helmet wouldn't fit on that head, then you need
• 1:30:55
  something more exciting today like.
• 1:30:56
  A Kung Fu grip? How about hold his?
• 1:30:58
  Helmet unhelmeted figure holding a helmet with a face plate in
• 1:31:04
  it. That look good, wouldn't it?
• 1:31:08
  Headless figure with a. No, no, no, no.
• 1:31:11
  Yes, he's normal. His his normal like unhelmeted
• 1:31:14
  head on and then he has his helmet.
• 1:31:15
  With his face, just hold it up like a war trophy.
• 1:31:21
  Look, I pulled my own head off. Uh, the helmeted ones are
• 1:31:24
  proportioned better. That gets me more than the
• 1:31:27
  articulation. My solution is just to put the
• 1:31:29
  helmets on all my figures or change the head entirely.
• 1:31:33
  OK, well, good. Same person following on, wasn't
• 1:31:38
  it? Yeah, I think.
• 1:31:38
  It might have been uh, although I tried to only give everybody
• 1:31:41
  one except maybe the odd one that was a Patreon of ours.
• 1:31:45
  I noticed I gave them maybe more than one umm, if they made more
• 1:31:49
  and more comment uh, bugwings should need their own special
• 1:31:53
  adapter that only come shouldn't need their only Yeah, that that
• 1:31:58
  only came with poxes I. Don't think that.
• 1:32:01
  Yeah, I guess. I don't think that's transmic is
• 1:32:07
  different, I think. I think they don't fit into the
• 1:32:10
  mythic portholes or the wing adapters.
• 1:32:16
  I guess this person, this this person typed this, they must
• 1:32:20
  have checked it out. I can.
• 1:32:22
  I'm going to trust them in this. Yeah, Yeah, OK.
• 1:32:27
  I guess surely they fit into the wing adapters.
• 1:32:29
  Maybe they don't know about the wing adapters.
• 1:32:32
  That's what I thought they they just got the same end as wings.
• 1:32:35
  Although maybe somebody told me actually that the OK we're going
• 1:32:38
  after, as this is the last one, how ridiculously tight the new
• 1:32:43
  skeleton builder joints are, especially the hip joints.
• 1:32:46
  Even after heating up the area, you start to warp the hip socket
• 1:32:49
  trying to break it. Well it's funny to put my
• 1:32:53
  comment about variation in the hips is I've had skeletons with
• 1:32:57
  loose hips. So umm, it varies.
• 1:33:03
  I would say the tightness is not an issue.
• 1:33:06
  It is the softness of the plastic on these skeleton
• 1:33:09
  builders. Might be right there.
• 1:33:11
  That is the issue because when you heat it up, they go very
• 1:33:14
  rubbery and then it's very easy to break them.
• 1:33:20
  Uh, or, you know, or, or the heating up doesn't do the do the
• 1:33:24
  job of getting the thing out because everything is too soft.
• 1:33:29
  You needed to be able to stay hard enough that, uh, that it'll
• 1:33:34
  be able to kind of pop out rather than kind of, yeah.
• 1:33:37
  That's what. Digging a hole here do you
• 1:33:40
  think? Have you any opinion here Rich
• 1:33:42
  or your results in boxes? It's not billed as as such, but
• 1:33:46
  but the only thing I've ever broken and it just broke.
• 1:33:49
  Rather than me being stupid and trying to do maybe when it's too
• 1:33:51
  cold or whatever. It was Max Ilyas's torso.
• 1:33:55
  His neck just snapped. I did that as well, not Max
• 1:33:58
  Ilyas. I did it with the Legion, yeah.
• 1:34:00
  So it's a similar sort of thing I guess.
• 1:34:01
  Oh yeah man, there's no problem there with his superclassing.
• 1:34:04
  Monkey. Well, thank you for your
• 1:34:10
  patience this week with us going through all of that.
• 1:34:13
  We're done with the bad opinions.
• 1:34:14
  So that's that. Backup solution for filling out
• 1:34:18
  an episode is now done and it's a fun one Yeah, if you are
• 1:34:23
  looking for more of us this week, you know the live stream
• 1:34:26
  is on or you catch that on the replay if you've missed it live.
• 1:34:29
  Mal has broken his tuberculae. My he's talking to his wife on
• 1:34:34
  mute, so we are. My opinion, you need a better
• 1:34:38
  way of plugging that extra digit, or if you'd call it onto
• 1:34:42
  the wings. Well, I'll tell you what if if
• 1:34:45
  we if we're ever stuck for an episode in the future, we can do
• 1:34:47
  our own unpopular opinions. So start making them now if
• 1:34:50
  we've managed to find some more other than that.
• 1:34:53
  By other empire. You're ready for for the outro
• 1:34:55
  there, Rich. I am sorry the cats are both
• 1:34:58
  acting like we had a fox or something in the house.
• 1:35:00
  You probably do. Maybe do?
• 1:35:02
  You're a fox. Rich, stay safe out there
• 1:35:04
  everybody. Remember, your opinions are
• 1:35:07
  valid unless they're about anthropomorphic figures being
• 1:35:09
  nonsense which based online.