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Drag show bill · Chuck Douglas

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Speaker 1: Meant to tell you about this in the first half
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Speaker 1: of the show, and I forgot to do so. So
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna circle back. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: Jensaki this thing circle back on this. Uh and that?
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Speaker 1: What's that bigfoot? No, not the bigfoot? To House Bill
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Speaker 1: two four man stop it, House Bill two forty nine,
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Speaker 1: which was passed by the Ohio House. I'm assuming it
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Speaker 1: has to go on to the Senate now and then
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Speaker 1: and then hopefully to the Governor's desk. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how this governor. Seriously, this particular governor at this stage
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Speaker 1: in his political career, I don't know how he'll react
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Speaker 1: he should this make it to his desk. But House
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Speaker 1: Bill two forty nine, basically the whole deal is it's
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Speaker 1: to ban public drag shows, which the people down in
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Speaker 1: Leancaster Fairfield County probably real happy to hear about this
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Speaker 1: what they went through. Yeah, Uh, such bans in other states.
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Speaker 1: This story reads, this is from ten TV have repeatedly
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Speaker 1: been shot down by courts. His unconstitutional government censorship of
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Speaker 1: freedom of speech and expression. How far are we willing
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Speaker 1: to go with that crap? Honestly, how far are we
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Speaker 1: willing to go. The bill now goes to the Ohio
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Speaker 1: Senate for consideration. Republican state Reps Angie King and Josh Williams,
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Speaker 1: who's appeared on this show, introduced the bill. It closes
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Speaker 1: the loophole that allows adult oriented sexual performances to fill
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Speaker 1: into public spaces where children are President King claimed, I
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Speaker 1: love that. King claimed the only purpose is to protect
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Speaker 1: children and protect innocence of Ohio's children in both public
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Speaker 1: and private spaces. The bill would prohibit an adult cabaret
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Speaker 1: performance for taking place outside an adult cabaret. So far,
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Speaker 1: I hear nothing objectionable here. I hear nothing objectionable about that.
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Speaker 2: I had to take a phone call. All I heard
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Speaker 2: was adult cabaret and I find nothing objectionable either.
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Speaker 1: Now shut up. It broadens the definition of adult cabaret
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Speaker 1: performances to include performers or entertainers who exhibit a gender
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Speaker 1: identity that's different from their performers or entertainer's gender assigned
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Speaker 1: at birth, using clothing, makeup, prosthetic or prosthetic, or imitation
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Speaker 1: genitals or breast or other physical markers. Yeah, I know,
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Speaker 1: let me see the bill lumps hang on. I had
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Speaker 1: to cough. The bill loves drag performance with topless dancers,
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Speaker 1: go go dancers, strippers, and exotic dancers. Okay, now let
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Speaker 1: me circle back to Jinsaki. It if if a guy
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Speaker 1: in a Teddy Bear nighty, high heels, fishnet stockings, blonde wig,
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Speaker 1: and facial makeup with breast implants is performing on the
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Speaker 1: public square and gyrating in front of your six year
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Speaker 1: old kid, but stopping that would be stopping his freedom
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Speaker 1: of expression and freedom of speech? Then why not just
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Speaker 1: have strippers out there? That's a legitimate question. That is
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Speaker 1: a legitimate question. Why not at the very least go
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Speaker 1: go dancers in their g strings and pasties? Why not? Well, no,
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Speaker 1: that's too far. Well who decides too far? That's very subjective.
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Speaker 1: Who decides what's too far? What if your freedom of
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Speaker 1: your freedom of expression includes, you know, fondling on little kids?
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Speaker 1: How far are you willing to go with this? The
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Speaker 1: bill's intentioned, apparently, from what the story says, is to
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Speaker 1: keep little kids from witnessing that kind of stuff, as
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Speaker 1: they did down in Fairfield County last year. You want
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Speaker 1: to do it at a club, that's fine. Go to
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Speaker 1: all the drag shows you want. I went to a
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Speaker 1: drag show once. I didn't know where I was going,
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Speaker 1: but I actually enjoyed it a great deal. I enjoyed
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Speaker 1: it a great deal. A guy that I know, his
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Speaker 1: name's Ben. He doesn't shut up. He does a greater
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Speaker 1: at least at that time, did a great great Tina Turner.
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Speaker 1: And it was like celebrity drag night, and a couple,
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Speaker 1: a couple of people I knew, said, Hey, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: go see Ben perform tonight. You want to go? Hey, yes, sure.
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Speaker 1: I had no idea Ben was going to come out
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Speaker 1: as Tina Turner. I wasn't expecting that, but he was awesome,
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Speaker 1: and this place was filled with people that appreciated that
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Speaker 1: entertainment and wanted to see it. And God bless him.
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Speaker 1: Let him do. If that's what they want. Let you
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Speaker 1: can have stripper bars, booby bars. You could have a
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Speaker 1: drag show bar. I don't care. I don't care, but
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Speaker 1: I don't think they should be, you know, happening down
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Speaker 1: at the corner of Broad and High for the little
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Speaker 1: one's eyes. I'm very libertarian in this respect. You know,
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Speaker 1: we talked about they legalized the weed, they'll legalize others.
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Speaker 1: A students. The government can find a way to make
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Speaker 1: enough money off of it without looking bad. Other stuff
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Speaker 1: will get legalized too. The prostitution. It's a problem all
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Speaker 1: over the place. Why because, well, the drugs are making people,
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Speaker 1: so you know what, why not do what they do
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Speaker 1: out in Vegas and just to health check them, give
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Speaker 1: them their shots, make them pass a screening, get a certificate,
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Speaker 1: and come up with an area that's not next to
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Speaker 1: the church, the school, or across the street from my house,
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Speaker 1: and let people do what they want to do. Let
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Speaker 1: them do it. I don't care. It's got nothing to
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Speaker 1: do with my life as long as I don't have
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Speaker 1: to see it, deal with it. It's not around me.
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Speaker 1: Same thing with these shows. Let them do it if
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Speaker 1: they want, but just just let it be in its
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Speaker 1: own place, its own venue, for its own audience. Do
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Speaker 1: not force other people to be subjected, especially children, to
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Speaker 1: be subjected to it. Penalties a story continues. Penalties in
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Speaker 1: the bill range for first degree misdemeanor for performance happens
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Speaker 1: in front of a juvenile, a fourth degree felony felony
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Speaker 1: if the performance is obscene and happen in front of
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Speaker 1: someone twelve years old and younger, and a fifth degree
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Speaker 1: felony if the performance is obscene? Again, how do you
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Speaker 1: define obscene? What's obscene to some may not be obscene
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Speaker 1: to others. I understand the intent behind the bill. I
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Speaker 1: don't think I've got a problem with the intent behind
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Speaker 1: the bill, but the wording needs to be tight, very
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Speaker 1: tight in order for something like this to work. What's
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Speaker 1: obscene to Zach isn't going to be obscene to me
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Speaker 1: or vice versa. Well, yeah, any it would be harder.
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Speaker 1: Zach's a lot easier than I am. I'm just saying
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Speaker 1: that's me slurping coffee so I don't cough again. I
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Speaker 1: commend Josh Williams for stepping up. I really do now.
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Speaker 1: Ohio House Representative Beryl Brown Poke my gosh, Picolanio Democrat
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Speaker 1: out of Gahanna, said the bill is not needed to
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Speaker 1: protect Ohio's children. Ohio State House Speaker Matt Huffman, Republican
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Speaker 1: out of Alima, claimed that the that calling the bill
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Speaker 1: a drag ban bill is not accurate. Ohio House Minority
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Speaker 1: Leader Danny Isaacson isaac sean Democrat out of Cincinnati, questions
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Speaker 1: why the legislature is prioritizing this bill. I question you
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Speaker 1: if the people of the state are truly what the
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Speaker 1: concern of the legislature is supposed to be. Why would
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Speaker 1: you even ask that question? It's an honest question. And
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Speaker 1: Danny says, here the majority and this legislature is focused
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Speaker 1: on drag shows while Ohioans are worried about how to
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Speaker 1: pay the bills. We always worry about how to pay
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Speaker 1: the bills. We'd also like to, you know, maybe save
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Speaker 1: our children from from this, if that's okay with you.
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Speaker 1: Out of Ohio spoke up said the bill would also
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Speaker 1: ban sports brawls. I don't know about that, but you know, language, language,
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Speaker 1: it's very important. They say, it's in plain English. The
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Speaker 1: bill gives government an unacceptable power to police what people wear.
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Speaker 1: Drag is just the beginning, of course, that's always just
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Speaker 1: the beginning. That's the CEO and Executive Director of Equality Ohio,
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Stewart is a statement. Bill makes regular everyday activities
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Speaker 1: and turns him into potential crimes based on whether somebody
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Speaker 1: else might be offended by what other people are wearing.
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Speaker 1: But let's turn that around. Aren't you offended by me
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Speaker 1: for not wanting to see that crap? Don't you say?
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Speaker 1: How dare you.
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Speaker 2: So?
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Speaker 1: If you can be offended by me, and I can
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Speaker 1: be offended by you. What makes your offense okay? And
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Speaker 1: mine some sort of problem for you? Can we not
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Speaker 1: be equally offended? So if your solution is, let everybody
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Speaker 1: do whatever they want to do in front a way
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Speaker 1: wherever they want to do it, in front of whatever
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Speaker 1: people they want to do it in front of, because
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Speaker 1: it's freedom and the expression and mine is do it
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Speaker 1: all you want, but do it in a confined atmosphere
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Speaker 1: where we can control the audience that is subjected to it,
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Speaker 1: which one of us sounds more reasonable. There there was
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Speaker 1: a Texas all banning some drag performance in public space
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Speaker 1: that went into effect last week, despite ongoing lawsuits that
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Speaker 1: are challenging the law. Federal appeals court recently upheld an
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Speaker 1: injunction against Montana's drag ban as well. Huffman believes Ohio's
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Speaker 1: bill is constitutional, but said it most certainly is going
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Speaker 1: to go to court if it becomes law. Of course
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Speaker 1: it will, and no better time as far as I'm concerned.
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Speaker 1: So if you got to you laughed at me earlier
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Speaker 1: when I was talking about going to a drag show,
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Speaker 1: You've ever been to a drag show or real drag show,
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Speaker 1: serious drig show, yes, okay. And the audience that was there,
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Speaker 1: they were there for that correct. Yeah, okay, so that's fine.
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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy yourself?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good time.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't. I wasn't going in there to you know,
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Speaker 1: get converted or anything. That wasn't my purpose. I went
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Speaker 1: to see a friend perform and he was Tina Turner.
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Speaker 1: That's all it was. And it was funny. It's it's
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Speaker 1: to me because I knew him outside of there as him.
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Speaker 1: It was a lot like just you know, going to
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Speaker 1: a theatrical production. I was big Harp. I played a
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Speaker 1: character in a box. I didn't really live in a box,
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Speaker 1: but in the show I did.
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Speaker 2: Hang on, that was your drag name, Big big, big Harp.
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Speaker 1: The Harp brothers in the Robber Bridegroom. Yes, I was
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Speaker 1: big Harp. Rick Carvelym was little just just you know,
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Speaker 1: it's just the neck up because I was in a
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Speaker 1: box and poor Rick had to push me around in
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Speaker 1: a box. It was hilarious. Okay, two heads are better
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Speaker 1: than one anyway, you know. I I played on stage
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Speaker 1: different characters and that's what I went and watched my
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Speaker 1: friend do and then he went out into the world
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Speaker 1: and he was himself again. And he didn't say you
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Speaker 1: have to wake except to me as Tina Turner. No,
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Speaker 1: he was still been. That was just a role he
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Speaker 1: was playing. And I got no problem with that. But
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Speaker 1: for anybody who didn't want to see it, they didn't
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Speaker 1: buy a ticket, they didn't go. And isn't that ultimately
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Speaker 1: the way things are supposed to be at least I
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Speaker 1: think so A two one eight six number two on WTV,
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Speaker 1: and Rick is standing by, Let's get him on the
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Speaker 1: Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines.
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Speaker 2: Rick, you're up, hey, boy, you got it covered. I
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Speaker 2: had seen some of the testimony for that bill actually
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Speaker 2: from last I think was the twenty fifth boy Josh Williams.
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Speaker 2: He burned him up because of the opposition, you know,
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Speaker 2: all the stupid stuff they were coming out with. Boy,
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Speaker 2: he took no prisoners when he stood up and talked.
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Speaker 2: There was like thirty reps so.
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Speaker 1: Voted against it, yes, and of course we had one
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Speaker 1: Republican that went over and voted against it. With the Democrats.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but well he talking them about drags uh Bird
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Speaker 2: the movie Bird takes come to mind. That thing was hilarious.
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Speaker 2: Do you ever watch that?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Robin Williams, Robin Williams, Nathan Lane, that was a
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Speaker 1: funny show.
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Speaker 2: Oh hell, that was awesome. Yeah. But I saw some
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Speaker 2: of the testimony that just happened to catch it on
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Speaker 2: the higher channel and that when they did actually did
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Speaker 2: the voting and some of you know, some of the
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Speaker 2: some of the stupidity from the opposition when they were talking.
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Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my god, you gotta be kidding me.
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Speaker 1: It is here.
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Speaker 2: Do they hear themselves talk?
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Speaker 1: It is very sad that, you know, it's it's in
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Speaker 1: our way or the highway kind of thing. We're not
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Speaker 1: saying no more drag shows. You can't be a drag person.
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Speaker 1: You can't. We're not saying that. What we're saying is
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Speaker 1: do it in an appropriate place for an appropriate audience.
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Speaker 2: They're saying or one key, one key thing was uh,
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Speaker 2: he made a big point of it, Josh Williams. That
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Speaker 2: was one. One thing was changed from the the Ohio
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Speaker 2: law wording was genitalia and it was changed to private
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Speaker 2: area from genitalia.
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Speaker 1: Oh really, that guy, that guy.
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Speaker 2: Who was acquitted apparently that is why he was acquitted
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Speaker 2: to the fat guy who's who went into the woman's
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Speaker 2: locker room and everybody was upset, and they actually prosecuted him.
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Speaker 2: But because he was so roped so big, and that
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Speaker 2: is belly hung down and hid his genitalia. Oh my god, technicality,
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Speaker 2: So the law changed it from genitalia to private area.
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Speaker 1: Well, if that's what it takes. Yeah, I have not
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Speaker 1: heard that. How long do Zach? I appreciate it, Rick,
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Speaker 1: thanks for the call. How long do you go? Did
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Speaker 1: that have it? I've never heard this story. I'll have
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Speaker 1: to Yeah, fine that because I got to know by
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Speaker 1: the way I mentioned there was one Republican that crossed
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Speaker 1: over and voted with the Democrats. At is Representative Jamie Callender,
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Speaker 1: Republican out of Concord, Ohio. One of the thirty votes
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Speaker 1: against passing House Bill two forty nine, there were sixty
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Speaker 1: three in favor of passing it. Again, it goes to
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Speaker 1: the Senate. But I have no idea, and I mean
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Speaker 1: this sincerely and depressingly, I have no idea what this
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Speaker 1: governor will do if it gets to his desk. Shouldn't
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Speaker 1: shouldn't you know? I mean, whether it's a yes or
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Speaker 1: a no. Should you at least know? And I don't. Oh, well, man,
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Speaker 1: there's always more stuff to talk about than I have
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Speaker 1: time to talk about it. Music already. Sorry, that's all right.
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Speaker 1: It's not your fault. The clock does what the clock
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Speaker 1: is going to do.