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- 0:31Speaker 1: So our lead this hour is from the owner's box,
- 0:34Speaker 1: and we spun the wheel and we decided to stop
- 0:39Speaker 1: right here. The Bus Family. That's right, the Bus Family.
- 0:44Speaker 1: And I'm old enough to remember when I started in
- 0:47Speaker 1: radio following Jerry Buss and a parade of teenagers young
- 0:52Speaker 1: ladies who are following Jerry around at the Forum Club
- 0:56Speaker 1: back in the day before social media. Quite the family,
- 0:59Speaker 1: Quite the fan anyway, Jerry Buss long gone, the Bus
- 1:03Speaker 1: Family not long gone. And the Bus Family is apparently selling,
- 1:08Speaker 1: depending on who you believe, seventeen point eight percent of
- 1:13Speaker 1: what was left of their ownership stake in the Lakers
- 1:16Speaker 1: to the new majority ownership group led by Josh Kushner
- 1:21Speaker 1: and the Disney guy Bob Iger, so hone of you
- 1:25Speaker 1: saw this or not, it's it's perhaps you missed it.
- 1:28Speaker 1: It's pretty wild, it's pretty crazy. And if this actually happens,
- 1:35Speaker 1: if it actually happens the way it's being reported, that
- 1:37Speaker 1: would mean that Genie Buss is persona non grata Bye bye.
- 1:45Speaker 1: She's out. She will no longer serve as the Lakers owner. Yes,
- 1:48Speaker 1: I'm a rebel, I said owner. I said owner, not governor,
- 1:54Speaker 1: not governor. Owner. I know I'm a bad boy. I'm
- 1:58Speaker 1: a bad boy, I said owner. Anyway, Jeanie Buss, who's
- 2:03Speaker 1: been running the show there since the old man croaked
- 2:06Speaker 1: years ago, and so she's been in control there. That
- 2:09Speaker 1: would end the Bus family dynasty, and that would end
- 2:14Speaker 1: control the franchise, which goes back many, many generations. So
- 2:17Speaker 1: the Bus family trust always fun. When you have a
- 2:20Speaker 1: family trust, that means you have a lot of money.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Do you know any poor people that have a family trust.
- 2:25Speaker 1: I don't. Anyway, the Bus family trust consists of not one,
- 2:29Speaker 1: not two, not three, not four, not five? How about
- 2:31Speaker 1: six siblings. You've got Genie. We know about her, Jim
- 2:37Speaker 1: Johnny dealt with him in the past. Someone named Jeanie.
- 2:41Speaker 1: I have no idea that is Joey seeing him a
- 2:44Speaker 1: little bit, and Jesse Buss. So keep track. There will
- 2:48Speaker 1: be a quiz on this later. So there's six of
- 2:50Speaker 1: them selling the remaining stake. Required four of the six
- 2:53Speaker 1: Bus siblings to sign off on the agreement, and they
- 2:59Speaker 1: exercised the tag along provision. Isn't that a girl scout
- 3:03Speaker 1: cookie the tag alongs? I think that is. I think
- 3:06Speaker 1: that is so anyway, So it's all connected to the
- 3:10Speaker 1: regional sale to Mark Walter, which is now a couple
- 3:13Speaker 1: of owners ago. Now, so that is a good jumping
- 3:17Speaker 1: off point. Let us discuss the question for the esteem
- 3:21Speaker 1: panel what stands out to you? What stands out to
- 3:25Speaker 1: you on Genie Buss being apparently excommunicated as even a
- 3:30Speaker 1: bit owner of the Lakers. So I've got Game of Thrones,
- 3:35Speaker 1: doctor shopping, and Nascar, and we will combine all of
- 3:41Speaker 1: these things together and we are going to have a
- 3:45Speaker 1: big bucket of tears because I gotta tell you some
- 3:50Speaker 1: emotion people, very emotional Genie Bus out. I'm guessing she's
- 3:55Speaker 1: crying a lot at this point too. What a story
- 3:58Speaker 1: on just at every level as I understand, so, Jeanie Boss,
- 4:05Speaker 1: essentially the way it comes across she had the tablecloth
- 4:09Speaker 1: yanked out from underneath her at the Aristocrats ball. She
- 4:14Speaker 1: was at the risk Gress ball. She was having a
- 4:16Speaker 1: nice meal, and then all of a sudden, somebody ripped
- 4:17Speaker 1: the tablecloth just like that, and all the champagne glasses
- 4:23Speaker 1: and the silverware, it all went flying, the family china
- 4:26Speaker 1: in the air everywhere. What a mess. It's like HBO
- 4:31Speaker 1: brought back Secession and this is the NBA spin off
- 4:35Speaker 1: of that show House of Bus. I'd watched that absolutely
- 4:42Speaker 1: would the dark underbelly, the dark underbelly of the family
- 4:47Speaker 1: business finally crawling out into the daylight. Oh my, you
- 4:53Speaker 1: got old man Jerry Boss who built this massive empire
- 4:57Speaker 1: the airs, spent years and years f over the throne.
- 5:02Speaker 1: The kids turned it into Game of Thrones. That's what's
- 5:05Speaker 1: going on right now with court side seats, of course,
- 5:07Speaker 1: because you got to have those. And the genie finally
- 5:10Speaker 1: lost the iron throne hoodwinked by her own bloodline. How
- 5:17Speaker 1: great is that? How great is that? Now? Jim, Johnny, Joey,
- 5:21Speaker 1: and Jesse Buss all had voted to cash in on
- 5:26Speaker 1: the record amount of money they can make from the
- 5:28Speaker 1: Lakers sale as part of the bargain, effectively firing their
- 5:34Speaker 1: own sister, who had been the face of that ownership group.
- 5:39Speaker 1: So they did it, and apparently Genie Buss not the
- 5:44Speaker 1: nicest woman in the world. According to these stories, everyone's
- 5:47Speaker 1: just trashing or the Bus family. Yeah, not big fans.
- 5:53Speaker 1: How does that taste? How does that taste? So again,
- 5:56Speaker 1: spare me the sappy violin music. I don't need that.
- 6:00Speaker 1: If the reporting is accurate, Genie Buss either fired or
- 6:03Speaker 1: sued every single one of her brothers since she took
- 6:09Speaker 1: control of the team. Does that sound nice? I don't
- 6:11Speaker 1: know that.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Not to me.
- 6:13Speaker 1: I have two brothers. None of them have sued me yet.
- 6:16Speaker 1: I'll let you know when my brothers sued me. They
- 6:18Speaker 1: have not sued me. So she sued all of her brothers,
- 6:22Speaker 1: grabbing control. Imagine the Thanksgiving dinner at the Bus family.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Not exactly Norman Rockwell, if anybody knows who that is anymore,
- 6:31Speaker 1: Not quite Norman Rockwell. The only thing the siblings can
- 6:34Speaker 1: universally lock in on is Genie Bad. That's it. Genie Bad,
- 6:40Speaker 1: that's all, and that's all she wrote, see you later,
- 6:44Speaker 1: get out of here, bye bye, and payback is a
- 6:48Speaker 1: dish best served with a ejection from the ownership box.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Get out of here, Get out of here. The Force sale.
- 6:58Speaker 1: What a great win for the others. Bibblings in the
- 7:00Speaker 1: Bus family and the family feud finally appears to have ended.
- 7:05Speaker 1: And it ends the way all great Hollywood stories do.
- 7:09Speaker 1: When you think about the history of Tinseltown, it ends
- 7:12Speaker 1: with a giant cartoon sized check, a backstab, and somebody
- 7:19Speaker 1: getting written out of the sequel, in this case, Genie
- 7:21Speaker 1: Buss not quite part of the sequel. Sorry, you're not
- 7:25Speaker 1: part of it? All right? Now the question and we
- 7:28Speaker 1: turned the page two here, So the Lakers are completely
- 7:33Speaker 1: divested if this happens of the Bus family, or are
- 7:36Speaker 1: they As Lee Corso would say, not so fast, my friend,
- 7:41Speaker 1: not so fast, my friend, Cauz. Nothing is that simple.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Nothing is that simple. Not even things that are simply
- 7:51Speaker 1: awful are that simple. That's just the way it is.
- 7:53Speaker 1: So what looked like and still does the end of
- 7:57Speaker 1: the Bus family forty year run, forty six year run
- 8:04Speaker 1: as the Laker ownership family, the first family of the Lakers,
- 8:08Speaker 1: and now it's becoming this It's not a Cold war,
- 8:12Speaker 1: it's something else. It's a Bus family control war. We'll
- 8:15Speaker 1: call it a conflict. We might have to bring in
- 8:19Speaker 1: NATO here to work out some kind of peace treaty
- 8:22Speaker 1: on this. Because Genie Buss's attorney, Adam Streisan, that name
- 8:27Speaker 1: rings the bell, right, That is, I believe a second
- 8:29Speaker 1: cousin to barb Yeah, Barbara Streisan. I'm aout. Yeah, that's
- 8:33Speaker 1: such a typical Laker thing. Let me hire somebody related
- 8:35Speaker 1: to Barbara Streisan as my attorney. Okay, So anyway, Adam
- 8:39Speaker 1: Streisan sent a letter to lawyers representing her siblings. We
- 8:45Speaker 1: just gave you all the names Jim, Johnny, Janey, Joey,
- 8:48Speaker 1: and Jesse, stating that Genie quote has not not agreed
- 8:53Speaker 1: to sell and that any family vote claiming otherwise would
- 8:57Speaker 1: be would be void. Nolan Voyd. Now, the argument is
- 9:01Speaker 1: a twenty seventeen court order established Genie as the Lakers
- 9:06Speaker 1: controlling shareholder. There will be another quiz on this, so
- 9:09Speaker 1: please pay close attention. So in twenty seventeen there was
- 9:12Speaker 1: some legal wrangling and they had a court order said, hey,
- 9:15Speaker 1: Genie is the controlling shareholder of all business with the Lakers,
- 9:20Speaker 1: meaning a sale of the family steake cannot occur without
- 9:26Speaker 1: her consent. Remember this is from the attorney hired by
- 9:31Speaker 1: Genie Buss. Genie is asserting that her siblings are not allowed,
- 9:38Speaker 1: not allowed here, cannot cash out around her, and so
- 9:42Speaker 1: this complicates and most likely will end up delaying the
- 9:49Speaker 1: ownership sale to the Lakers, putting the Lakers in limbo.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Do the limbo. You gotta do the limbo, all right?
- 9:56Speaker 1: So question is Genie Buss fighting for the Lakers with
- 10:00Speaker 1: Does she have a legal bazooka or is this a
- 10:04Speaker 1: water pistol? Again, for those of you in the back room,
- 10:07Speaker 1: is Jeenie Buss fighting for the Lakers with a legal
- 10:10Speaker 1: bazooka or is this just a water pistol? So, after
- 10:13Speaker 1: a minutes long review and deliberation of the available information,
- 10:19Speaker 1: we have determined this is it's a water pistol. It's
- 10:21Speaker 1: a super soaker, which is a water pistol. And she's
- 10:25Speaker 1: also armed with paperwork and a prayer. So good luck
- 10:29Speaker 1: on that. Good luck on that. Now Genie is clutching
- 10:32Speaker 1: that twenty seventeen court order like it's the holy Grail,
- 10:37Speaker 1: and Indiana Jones is coming in with a whip to
- 10:42Speaker 1: try to steal it away. I mean, come on, and
- 10:45Speaker 1: there's one. It seem bit se lit. The problem. There's
- 10:49Speaker 1: a little bit of a problem here. The calendar has
- 10:52Speaker 1: continued to move. You see, that's a problem. And the
- 10:55Speaker 1: reason that is a problem the calendar continuing to move
- 10:58Speaker 1: is at this point she needs to go Genie Bus
- 11:02Speaker 1: doctor shopping, and I recommend hiring doctor Strange to manipulate
- 11:07Speaker 1: time because that's the problem. That's the problem. Now I'm
- 11:11Speaker 1: not a lawyer, I can play one on the radio,
- 11:14Speaker 1: so as I understand it from years of deciding legal
- 11:17Speaker 1: cases behind the bully pulpit here at Fox Sports Radio
- 11:21Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, that legal deal, the court order in twenty
- 11:25Speaker 1: seventeen should be in a museum behind glass. Okay, it's
- 11:30Speaker 1: a museum piece. In twenty fifteen, last I checked, that
- 11:34Speaker 1: would be a year ago. The entire Bus family all
- 11:38Speaker 1: got around the campfire. They roasted marshmallows and saying kumbay yah.
- 11:44Speaker 1: They sang kombah yah. The entire Bus family, including Genie Buss,
- 11:48Speaker 1: signed a new rule book. You might have heard about it.
- 11:51Speaker 1: They sold control of Laker franchise to Mark Walter. They
- 11:55Speaker 1: put a five year timer on her reign of terror
- 12:01Speaker 1: as the owner. And so yet it turns out again
- 12:07Speaker 1: based on the reporting that. And this is from her
- 12:09Speaker 1: own lawyer who kept bringing up the twenty seventeen thing.
- 12:12Speaker 1: As I understand it, they're ignoring twenty twenty five. They're
- 12:18Speaker 1: reaching in the way back machine and they're going eight
- 12:23Speaker 1: years ago and they're using that and saying, well, this
- 12:27Speaker 1: is it. They're going into the attic and they're saying, well,
- 12:29Speaker 1: let me dust that off. This twenty seventeen thing is
- 12:31Speaker 1: the way to go. And unless you have some kind
- 12:34Speaker 1: of mystical powers that we don't know about, she's already
- 12:37Speaker 1: signed away what she had in twenty seventeen. Dumb, du dum,
- 12:42Speaker 1: dumb dumb. Did she not realize that? Did no one say, hey, listen,
- 12:46Speaker 1: if the unthinking, I guarantee you. She thought there's no
- 12:49Speaker 1: way Mark Walter is gonna buy the Lakers and sell
- 12:51Speaker 1: it in one year. She assumed he'd owned the team
- 12:53Speaker 1: for ten years. She did not factor in that the
- 12:56Speaker 1: Feds would be bird dogging the Dodger owner Mark Walter
- 12:59Speaker 1: to try get their money back because they government, I
- 13:02Speaker 1: don't even know about it. If you don't pay your taxes,
- 13:04Speaker 1: they come after you anyway. So she signed away her power.
- 13:09Speaker 1: So what is the argument here like, seriously, I mean,
- 13:12Speaker 1: if you know more about this than I explain to me,
- 13:15Speaker 1: because I don't understand the way I read it, She ded,
- 13:17Speaker 1: he only twenty seventeen. She voided the deal in twenty
- 13:20Speaker 1: twenty five, agreeing to sell the team. So unless there's
- 13:24Speaker 1: something that we're missing here, this is just a very
- 13:28Speaker 1: expensive stall tactic and it's grasping at the last branch
- 13:33Speaker 1: while the family tree gets chopped down, Like seriously, all right, Meanwhile,
- 13:38Speaker 1: to baseball, let's go to the crystal ball. In baseball,
- 13:42Speaker 1: Blue Heaven reports trickling in a lot of noise here
- 13:48Speaker 1: that Trek Skubele, a current Dodger former Detroit Tiger, Trek Scooble,
- 13:53Speaker 1: not only is he a smitten kitten with the Dodgers,
- 13:57Speaker 1: he wants to sign the DOCU sign right now. Did
- 14:00Speaker 1: you see this? No? Okay, So scoobl who's been not terrible,
- 14:05Speaker 1: not good, as kind of average as a Dodger. So
- 14:09Speaker 1: he wants a new multi year contract to stay with
- 14:12Speaker 1: the Dodgers, and he'd like it asap. You know, players
- 14:18Speaker 1: always say I want to focus on the season. I
- 14:20Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to think about my
- 14:21Speaker 1: contract till after the season, Eh not this guy, No, no, no,
- 14:25Speaker 1: Scooba wants a deal done before the current CBA expires.
- 14:28Speaker 1: That's the Collective Bargaining Agreement. By the way, that is
- 14:31Speaker 1: December first, that is the deadline to get it done.
- 14:34Speaker 1: So question on this where do you fall? Here's the question,
- 14:38Speaker 1: where do you fall on the chatter that Trek Scooble
- 14:43Speaker 1: wants a Dodger extension done before the offseason gets going.
- 14:50Speaker 1: So any way you measure this, any way you measure this.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Scott Boris is the agent here, and it's pretty easy
- 14:58Speaker 1: to see the landscape. Scott sees storm clouds, an ominous
- 15:04Speaker 1: dark storm and right over baseball, and he sees what
- 15:09Speaker 1: you see and what I see. And Boris is the
- 15:12Speaker 1: most powerful man in baseball. Rob Manford is like an
- 15:15Speaker 1: intern for Scott Boris. You really understand that. So Scott
- 15:18Speaker 1: Boris sees the storm clouds over baseball and he's not
- 15:21Speaker 1: waiting around to buy an umbrella. You know those guys
- 15:25Speaker 1: pop up anytime it rains. There's like a bunch of
- 15:27Speaker 1: guys with buckets of umbrella. Umbrella's umbrella, ten bucks, twenty bucks,
- 15:31Speaker 1: umbrella umbrella. You know where do those guys hide all
- 15:33Speaker 1: the time, but it's not raining. I don't know anyway,
- 15:37Speaker 1: boris it would appear based on reading the tea leaves
- 15:40Speaker 1: here wants Schooble to get one of those biggie sized
- 15:45Speaker 1: piggy banks dropped into his backyard and or Dodger Stadium, like,
- 15:51Speaker 1: just do it right now now. The CBA expires December first.
- 15:55Speaker 1: That means there will be a cold war that takes
- 15:57Speaker 1: place in baseball following that. While a hard cap is
- 16:01Speaker 1: not going to happen, it is a very long shot.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Good luck if your team cap, because the cap is crap,
- 16:09Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. However, there will be a compromise,
- 16:12Speaker 1: so the players are not going to agree to a
- 16:14Speaker 1: salary cap, so that's not going to happen. However, what's
- 16:17Speaker 1: the common ground, Well, the common ground it would appear
- 16:19Speaker 1: from what I've heard from people in baseball would be
- 16:22Speaker 1: think of it like NASCAR restrictor plate rules, where they
- 16:26Speaker 1: don't put a cap on overall team spending. They just
- 16:29Speaker 1: cap contract length and they'll try to cut back on
- 16:33Speaker 1: some deferred money. They'll put guardrails up on how fast
- 16:38Speaker 1: you can go, meaning how many years and how much
- 16:40Speaker 1: money total contract value and really just guardrails to stop
- 16:45Speaker 1: the Dodgers' financial trapeze act is what they're going to
- 16:49Speaker 1: try to do. Buggety, buggety, buggety. So why gamble if
- 16:52Speaker 1: you're Scott Morris, why gamble? Scoople's already getting the free sample,
- 16:58Speaker 1: the Kirkland brand sample from the Dodgers, and Boris knows
- 17:02Speaker 1: all about it. He lives in Newport Beaches compound. There
- 17:05Speaker 1: in Newport, he goes to Dodger games all the time,
- 17:07Speaker 1: and so he's familiar with the organization. He knows that
- 17:12Speaker 1: in this case, unlike almost every one of his other clients,
- 17:15Speaker 1: it's better off just to take a deal right now.
- 17:18Speaker 1: And this is essentially Scott Boris covering his badunka dunk
- 17:24Speaker 1: okay cash in under today's rules, the rules you know
- 17:29Speaker 1: today before Tomorrow's shrink the size of the buffet. You
- 17:34Speaker 1: know how that shrink flation cuts down on how much
- 17:37Speaker 1: food you get. The price of the food's the same,
- 17:39Speaker 1: you get less food though, That's it. So stuff those
- 17:43Speaker 1: deferred payments from the Dodgers into every mattress you can
- 17:46Speaker 1: possibly find in La and wherever Schooble lives in the
- 17:49Speaker 1: offseason and then let Rob manfraud and the people that
- 17:53Speaker 1: major League Baseball in the Union bicker the Bickersons and
- 17:56Speaker 1: they can have a field day. And so yeah, for
- 17:59Speaker 1: Scott Bors, I understand the agent for Terry Scoople December first.
- 18:03Speaker 1: It's not a deadline. It's the last exit before the
- 18:08Speaker 1: toll road.
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- 18:56Speaker 1: No way, no how. In our lead story. This app
- 19:00Speaker 1: from somebody that upset many people, very upset with what
- 19:06Speaker 1: happened here involves the claw. If you have not heard yet,
- 19:11Speaker 1: perhaps not, several people over the last year have been
- 19:14Speaker 1: emailing me pretty much every week, Well are you're not
- 19:17Speaker 1: talking about you? Should really talk about you? Shame on you,
- 19:20Speaker 1: even though I have mentioned it a few times. What
- 19:22Speaker 1: is it? What am I talking about? That mix money?
- 19:25Speaker 1: So the NBA, they've had an investigation into the La
- 19:31Speaker 1: Clippers foul play and they have apparently found no evidence,
- 19:38Speaker 1: no evidence that owner Steve Baumer funneled money through team
- 19:44Speaker 1: sponsors and other dummy groups to pay Kawhi Leonard. What yeah,
- 19:53Speaker 1: So if you didn't see this, perhaps not. The probe
- 19:55Speaker 1: centers on whether or not Kawhi Leonard's twenty eight million
- 20:00Speaker 1: dollar endorsement deal with a now defunct company Aspiration, was
- 20:05Speaker 1: actually a mechanism to circumvent the NBA's salary cap and
- 20:11Speaker 1: the many rules they have in the cap. Now. Investigators
- 20:14Speaker 1: also examined allegations involving additional Clipper sponsors, looking to find
- 20:20Speaker 1: evidence that Steve Balmer, the Microsoft kingpin from back of
- 20:25Speaker 1: the day, or the organization secretly directed money towards Leonard
- 20:31Speaker 1: in hidden ways, and according to a report from the
- 20:37Speaker 1: Entertainment and Sports Network out of Bristol, Connecticut, none has
- 20:41Speaker 1: been found. Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.
- 20:47Speaker 1: All right, so that is a good jumping up point.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Let us discuss the question, how does this latest report
- 20:55Speaker 1: that claims the NBA, after over a year I believe
- 20:58Speaker 1: were passed a year I think now has found no
- 21:01Speaker 1: no Steve Balmer, shenanigans with Kawhi Leonard and the no
- 21:07Speaker 1: show jobs. How does this read to you? So I've
- 21:11Speaker 1: got trapdoor, waterbed, and al capone, and we'll combine all
- 21:19Speaker 1: of these things together and we're gonna go abra cadabra.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Hocus pocus is what we're going to do. So number one, one, one,
- 21:30Speaker 1: one one one, all right. Stop. So I've determined, after
- 21:41Speaker 1: a minutes long dive into this that the NBA investigating
- 21:46Speaker 1: the Clippers. They hired a two man team, well two
- 21:48Speaker 1: people involved here. Their lead investigator was Helen keller Uh
- 21:53Speaker 1: and she she handled the main parts of the investigation.
- 21:56Speaker 1: And then they also hired Sergeant Schultz, which is an
- 21:58Speaker 1: old character from a TV show. Oh that's long gone,
- 22:00Speaker 1: called Hogan's Heroes, and they spent a year snooping around
- 22:06Speaker 1: the Clippers, and they issued a joint statement, and the
- 22:09Speaker 1: joint statement said I see nothing, I hear nothing, I
- 22:14Speaker 1: know nothing. That was a statement. That's it. Of course,
- 22:19Speaker 1: they found no evidence. Now even I am surprised if
- 22:24Speaker 1: this is actually the way this plays out, because I
- 22:26Speaker 1: had heard, and I told you what I had been hearing,
- 22:28Speaker 1: that the NBA really doesn't want to punish the Clippers
- 22:31Speaker 1: because this kind of thing happens not all the time,
- 22:34Speaker 1: but for the top say two percent of NBA players,
- 22:39Speaker 1: they get these kind of deals. It's just common practice.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Nobody talks about it, and it's like the first rule
- 22:46Speaker 1: of fight club. You don't talk about It just kind
- 22:48Speaker 1: of happens. And they just don't want to avoid having
- 22:51Speaker 1: to punish the Clippers because that would have created a
- 22:53Speaker 1: bunch of headaches and all that. So even that though
- 22:56Speaker 1: I assumed they would give some kind of slap on
- 22:59Speaker 1: the wrist. That's what I assumed here, and I have
- 23:02Speaker 1: learned over the years. You cannot find something if you've
- 23:05Speaker 1: already decided you don't want to find it, so you
- 23:08Speaker 1: just you can't and The ugly truth is that these
- 23:11Speaker 1: kind of wink wink, nudge nudge side agreements around the
- 23:16Speaker 1: top two percent of star players are not exactly exotic
- 23:20Speaker 1: wildlife in the NBA's big sporty industrial complex. It's just not.
- 23:27Speaker 1: And Adam Silver sitting on his big perch there in
- 23:32Speaker 1: Midtown Manhattan and looking out the window, and he's like, Okay,
- 23:35Speaker 1: I got this button, and if I press the button,
- 23:38Speaker 1: it'll open up a trap door and we will fall
- 23:41Speaker 1: down into crazy Town. And I don't want to go
- 23:45Speaker 1: to crazy Town. I want to avoid crazy Town, the
- 23:48Speaker 1: baddest part of town. I don't want to go. So
- 23:50Speaker 1: he decided, Eh, maybe we just keep that sucker bolted
- 23:55Speaker 1: shut and not open that trap door, because once you
- 23:59Speaker 1: see it start digging in to the underbelly around Kawhi
- 24:04Speaker 1: Leonard's arrangement, where does the shovel stop. In fact, there's
- 24:09Speaker 1: chatter that the NBA already ruled that sponsors are allowed
- 24:15Speaker 1: to in previous years. They said in previous cases, the
- 24:18Speaker 1: NBA said that essentially sponsors are allowed to pay players
- 24:21Speaker 1: without circumventing the salarycap. So this whole thing, though, it
- 24:27Speaker 1: gives me vibrations of the cheating as one one thousand
- 24:32Speaker 1: and two one thousand holes. Yes, remember this, I remember.
- 24:36Speaker 1: So rival teams said, hey, we're you know, the Athletics
- 24:40Speaker 1: or the Mariners or whoever, and we believe beyond a
- 24:44Speaker 1: reasonable doubt that the team in Houston is cheating. And
- 24:48Speaker 1: Major League basically said, okay, this is a very serious thing.
- 24:50Speaker 1: We are going to investigate. We are going to hire
- 24:53Speaker 1: the Keystone cops to go out there and investigate the
- 24:56Speaker 1: team in Houston. So they went out there and they investigated.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Rival teams complain, they look did into it. Rob Manford
- 25:01Speaker 1: man Fraud's band of merry men started sniffing around, and
- 25:06Speaker 1: they investigated, and they said, listen, we did a full investigation,
- 25:10Speaker 1: and we were happy to report everything's good here. No cheating, Nope,
- 25:15Speaker 1: it's all good. Couldn't find the elephant in the room.
- 25:19Speaker 1: While Houston was at that time, the Astros were practically
- 25:25Speaker 1: stomping on anything they could to signal fastball or breaking ball.
- 25:30Speaker 1: They had a trash can band behind the dugout and
- 25:34Speaker 1: yet nothing to see here, folks, nothing to see, Please disperse.
- 25:38Speaker 1: It was only after a whistleblower on the team spilled
- 25:43Speaker 1: the beans. It was only after that that the people
- 25:46Speaker 1: at Major League Baseball were forced to open their eyes,
- 25:49Speaker 1: not that they actually punished anyone. As we saw cheating
- 25:52Speaker 1: Ahole is in the Hall of Fame, tarnishing Cooperstown this year.
- 25:55Speaker 1: The NBA investigated and said, well we wouldn't you know it.
- 26:00Speaker 1: The NBA investigated the NBA and determined that the NBA
- 26:03Speaker 1: is doing just fine. They're doing just fine now Page two.
- 26:08Speaker 1: The counter point on this. The counter point on this.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Less than two hours after the report we just talked about.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Less than two hours after report we just talked about,
- 26:18Speaker 1: popped up that Clippers owner Steve Baumer had been essentially
- 26:23Speaker 1: cleared of any wrongdoing involving Kawhi Leonard. The NBA issued
- 26:31Speaker 1: a prepared statement, a sharp rebuke, all right, saying that
- 26:36Speaker 1: the ESPN story that we've been talking about contained quote,
- 26:40Speaker 1: numerous and significant inaccuracies close quote. The league also pointed
- 26:47Speaker 1: out and noted that it declined to cooperate with ESPN's
- 26:53Speaker 1: reporting and said the facts will become clear once the
- 26:55Speaker 1: investigation is completed. Keep in mind, that's very vague. They
- 26:59Speaker 1: did not give any specifics. You would think if there
- 27:02Speaker 1: was something that was urgently needed to be rebuked, you
- 27:05Speaker 1: would have rebuked it right away. They chose not to
- 27:07Speaker 1: do that. An unnamed league insider calling the possible punishment
- 27:14Speaker 1: of Steve Balmer and the Clippers over sponsor shenanigans, if
- 27:19Speaker 1: you will, as at outrageous overreach, and the ruling would
- 27:26Speaker 1: contradict previous guidelines. What we talked about that this has
- 27:29Speaker 1: kind of been an open thing in the NBA in
- 27:32Speaker 1: previous years said listen, you do what you gotta do,
- 27:34Speaker 1: and we're not gonna you know, we're gonna bug it.
- 27:36Speaker 1: We'll look the other way. If these sponsors want to
- 27:38Speaker 1: throw their money away, then okay, that's that's fine, and
- 27:42Speaker 1: we're we're okay with it, all right. So the question
- 27:45Speaker 1: here the nb A. So the NBA says, the report
- 27:50Speaker 1: that the Clippers investigation of Steve Balmer contains numerous and
- 27:55Speaker 1: significant inaccuracies. How much muscle does does this memo from
- 28:01Speaker 1: the league office have? How much? How much does that have?
- 28:03Speaker 1: So this is kind of like you go to the gym.
- 28:07Speaker 1: You see those Jim bros. They're they're flexing in the
- 28:10Speaker 1: mirrors there and they have inflatable muscles. Essentially, what it
- 28:15Speaker 1: is like inflatable muscles here numerous and significant inaccuracies. Now
- 28:21Speaker 1: that sounds pretty menacing, doesn't it. I mean that does right,
- 28:25Speaker 1: It was just somewhat menacing. But you know what that means.
- 28:29Speaker 1: The whip they're cracking is ultimately cool whip. It's delicious
- 28:34Speaker 1: cool whip. And here's why. Because the NBA and ESPN
- 28:39Speaker 1: are lovers. They are lovers. They are lovers. That's right,
- 28:45Speaker 1: financial waterbed. They're in the waterbed together, ESPN ABC They
- 28:54Speaker 1: essentially if you look at the relationship here, the ESPN
- 28:57Speaker 1: ABC outfit is the sugar dad of the NBA, paying
- 29:02Speaker 1: around two point six billion per year for its slice
- 29:08Speaker 1: of the basketball pie, the eleven year media rights deal.
- 29:13Speaker 1: So that's every year the ESPEN people cut a check
- 29:17Speaker 1: for two point six billion to the NBA. And ESBN
- 29:21Speaker 1: knows where the guardrails are. They're business partners in. The
- 29:24Speaker 1: NBA knows who helps pay the palace. Palace does not
- 29:30Speaker 1: pay for itself. Somebody has to pay for the palace.
- 29:32Speaker 1: So Adam Silver can puff out his chest, mister Commissioner
- 29:36Speaker 1: from somewhere far out in the cosmos, out there possible
- 29:41Speaker 1: lizard person. So Adam Silver can puff out his chest,
- 29:46Speaker 1: and then you know, huff and puff and all this
- 29:47Speaker 1: stuff and go crazy and all that about inaccuracies and whatnot.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Here an issue sternly warded worded communicate right, just do
- 29:57Speaker 1: all that stuff and wag his finger just like that
- 30:00Speaker 1: wagon's finger and yell bad network bad bad bad bad
- 30:03Speaker 1: bad bad bad bad bad. But until Silver puts the
- 30:07Speaker 1: alleged inaccuracies that supposedly happened on the table, it is
- 30:12Speaker 1: just corporate corporate chest thumping is all it is. And
- 30:16Speaker 1: you can't have a hat Fields and McCoy's family feud
- 30:22Speaker 1: when both families share the same checking account. They have
- 30:26Speaker 1: a joint checking account. Understand good? All right? Meanwhile, final
- 30:31Speaker 1: point to the pod. To the pod we go some
- 30:37Speaker 1: guy named Pablo Torre. I guess he's a podcast guy,
- 30:42Speaker 1: and he has made a name for himself. We are
- 30:45Speaker 1: told just on this like nobodyknew who was. People still
- 30:49Speaker 1: don't really know who he is. He's not really very
- 30:51Speaker 1: all that well, but he's claiming, you know, people around him,
- 30:55Speaker 1: he's famous now because of this. So this Pablo Tory
- 30:58Speaker 1: who just kind of kept reporting nonsense about this lead investigator,
- 31:04Speaker 1: if you will, lead investigator on the Clippers story, now
- 31:09Speaker 1: he's in the crosshairs. If this report is accurate, this
- 31:14Speaker 1: is not good you talk about Mortal Kombat. So Pablo Tore,
- 31:19Speaker 1: for months and months has accused the Clippers of bull
- 31:24Speaker 1: crap no show job for Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million
- 31:29Speaker 1: dollars no show job endorsement deal Leonard received from Aspiration.
- 31:34Speaker 1: He parlayed this Pablo Torre did into winning, believe it
- 31:38Speaker 1: or not, the twenty twenty six Pullitzer Prize in Audio reporting.
- 31:43Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was a thing. Apparently it is,
- 31:47Speaker 1: and on his Little Friends and Family podcast. So the question,
- 31:52Speaker 1: with the NBA close to clearing the Clippers over the
- 31:55Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard no show job, which Pablo Torre has spent
- 32:00Speaker 1: months and months yapping about, where does this leave the
- 32:05Speaker 1: podcaster Pablo Tory if this goes the way it is headed.
- 32:09Speaker 1: So I recommend, and I think I'm the voice of
- 32:13Speaker 1: reason on this, that Pablo Torre should get the Reggie
- 32:15Speaker 1: Bush treatment. You might remember Reggie Bush had the Heisman
- 32:18Speaker 1: Trophy taken away from him, and so why not repossess
- 32:24Speaker 1: the Pulitzer Prize, return the Pulitzer, give it back, give
- 32:28Speaker 1: it back, now, give it back. Because If the NBA's
- 32:32Speaker 1: official position is that there was no salary cap circumvention,
- 32:37Speaker 1: then what exactly on God's Green Earth did Pablo Torre
- 32:42Speaker 1: win the Pulitzer Prize Award for Creative Accounting fan fiction?
- 32:47Speaker 1: Is that? What? Do they have a Pulitzer Prize for fiction?
- 32:50Speaker 1: Is that? No, they don't. Okay, So this thing is
- 32:53Speaker 1: starting to look and I'm gonna day myself. But there's
- 32:56Speaker 1: a famous moment in television history. It was Geraldo Rivera
- 33:00Speaker 1: was behind it, and it was in Chicago, a famous
- 33:05Speaker 1: basement underneath a hotel in downtown Chicago. There the legendary
- 33:09Speaker 1: TV special which even though it's been forty years, people
- 33:13Speaker 1: still bring this up, the mystery of al Capone's fault,
- 33:17Speaker 1: and it was a big deal. And I think they
- 33:19Speaker 1: found a couple of old soda cans and some rats
- 33:23Speaker 1: and some cockaroaches and all that stuff. So months of
- 33:26Speaker 1: hype involving the Clippers, Kawhi Leonard salary cap circumvention. A
- 33:30Speaker 1: number of you had your pants down, you were so excited.
- 33:33Speaker 1: You were all waiting for this to happen, and just
- 33:36Speaker 1: breathless anticipation, just absolutely breathless anticipation. Cameras rolling America watching,
- 33:42Speaker 1: and they opened the vault and there was capital b bupkus,
- 33:47Speaker 1: capital b bupkus. So Pablo Torre at this point he
- 33:50Speaker 1: turned the Clippers Kawhi Leonard twenty eight million dollars no
- 33:54Speaker 1: show aspiration deal into the Zubruder film of basketball, examining
- 34:02Speaker 1: every little kernel, every frame, like he was cracking Watergate.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Oh my. And after all of that, the NBA says, essentially,
- 34:13Speaker 1: this report by ESPN, which is a business partner of
- 34:16Speaker 1: the NBA, says there's nothing to see here. There's nothing.
- 34:20Speaker 1: There's just nothing. So either the league investigation is a
- 34:23Speaker 1: whitewash and Pablo Tory exposed something real, or the Pulitzer
- 34:31Speaker 1: Committee handed out journalism's shiny gold star for the al
- 34:38Speaker 1: Capone vaults of NBA scandals. So Pablo Tory finds out,
- 34:44Speaker 1: we are told, is the name of his little show there.
- 34:46Speaker 1: And it's more like Pablo Tory found out there was
- 34:51Speaker 1: nothing in the vaults, nothing at all.
- 34:53Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller
- 34:56Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Come Come, let's do it, go ahead, coop.
- 35:05Speaker 4: A report this weekend said that Tory Lavello of the
- 35:09Speaker 4: d Bags, Joe A. Spota of the Ashtros, and Dan
- 35:11Speaker 4: Wilson and the Mariners all have to make the playoffs
- 35:13Speaker 4: this season or they will be out of the job.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Ben, how many do you think actually get fyed? So
- 35:17Speaker 1: I think Lavello will keep his job. Dan Wilson the
- 35:20Speaker 1: Manners are not very good and they're boring, so he's
- 35:23Speaker 1: out and Joe's spot I believe will be out in Houston.
- 35:25Speaker 1: So two of the three gone.
- 35:26Speaker 4: Next, Russell Westbrook importedly balked at an offer from the
- 35:29Speaker 4: Washington Wizards and Sacramento Kings before deciding to retire, Ben,
- 35:33Speaker 4: would you have decided to retire rather than return hiss
- 35:35Speaker 4: Trey Young's backup if you were Westbrook.
- 35:36Speaker 1: Well, he's rich, so he doesn't need the money. I
- 35:38Speaker 1: would have kept playing, because why not you go to
- 35:41Speaker 1: the team like the Wizards, and then you can go
- 35:43Speaker 1: to a good team. They'll trade. A good team will
- 35:45Speaker 1: trade for you at the deadline, So that's what I
- 35:46Speaker 1: would have done. Next.
- 35:48Speaker 4: John Beeliner is returning to the NBA as a senior
- 35:51Speaker 4: coaching consultant for the Lando Magic. Do you think this
- 35:54Speaker 4: is a stepping stone to something bigger or just a
- 35:55Speaker 4: way to stay in the game.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Well, the key part of that coop is senior coach.
- 36:00Speaker 1: You can consultant. You know how old John B. Line
- 36:02Speaker 1: is seventy three? When you're seventy three, it's not a
- 36:08Speaker 1: stepping stone. It's not I don't know what that is.
- 36:12Speaker 1: The man seventy three and there's no stepping stone. He's
- 36:15Speaker 1: not going anywhere. Uh, good for him. He'll get some
- 36:18Speaker 1: money for the grandkids. I guess you can buy him
- 36:20Speaker 1: cars and crap like that. There it is malardly third degree?
- 36:23Speaker 1: How did we do he passes? That is a went
- 36:27Speaker 1: put it on the bar, went a chicken dinner.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
- 36:36Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
- 36:40Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
- 36:44Speaker 2: listen live. Thank you now Malor's Mountain of money. Hey,
- 36:51Speaker 2: do you have what it takes to get to the top?
- 36:54Speaker 1: Probably not as soon as right now. Welcome in arkansesss.
- 36:58Speaker 1: We have Jamar, who is in Saint Petersburg, Florida. Hello Jamar, Welcome,
- 37:07Speaker 1: what's going on?
- 37:08Speaker 3: What's going on?
- 37:08Speaker 1: You're gonna play our game? How exciting? Is this, Jamar?
- 37:11Speaker 1: This is amazing he is already all right, buddy, Well,
- 37:15Speaker 1: good to have you. And are you working right now?
- 37:19Speaker 1: What do you got going on over there?
- 37:21Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm working.
- 37:22Speaker 4: I'm your looka and the Busch beer this year?
- 37:24Speaker 1: All right? The beer man, how about that? He's got
- 37:27Speaker 1: all the brew, all the Bruce keys. All right, you
- 37:29Speaker 1: want to play with Coop, you can play with me
- 37:32Speaker 1: or Lorena.
- 37:34Speaker 4: Play with you. Man.
- 37:35Speaker 1: All right, we're in it, Jamar, the beer man. I
- 37:39Speaker 1: love it?
- 37:39Speaker 2: All right?
- 37:40Speaker 1: Hold ont sex, buddy, and we have who do we have?
- 37:42Speaker 1: We have Joey in Amarillo, Texas? Hello, Joey?
- 37:47Speaker 3: Hey, what's up?
- 37:48Speaker 1: Ben? Welcome in? Joe You're driving, you're driving around. Get
- 37:51Speaker 1: a lot of feedback with.
- 37:53Speaker 4: I'm not sure you're doing door dash.
- 37:55Speaker 1: Oh, door dash? All right, Well, we don't have a
- 37:57Speaker 1: lot of time, so we gotta get into the game.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Other way to ask you a bunch of questions and
- 38:01Speaker 1: put you on hold for a second. You're gonna play
- 38:03Speaker 1: with Cooper Loop and let's get this party started. What
- 38:05Speaker 1: are the categories here, Coop Loop? Please? All right?
- 38:09Speaker 4: This is the Edward Norton edition of Mausmount of Money.
- 38:12Speaker 4: He turns fifty six years old today.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Yep.
- 38:15Speaker 4: The categories are fight Club, Moonrise, Kingdom, the Incredible Hulk,
- 38:20Speaker 4: and a Complete Unknown.
- 38:24Speaker 1: Jamar, you were on first. Which category would you like?
- 38:27Speaker 2: Let's go Incredible Hope.
- 38:29Speaker 4: Incredible Hulk? All right, and Joey, which category would you like?
- 38:34Speaker 4: Fight Club, Moonrise, Kingdom or a complete Unknown?
- 38:39Speaker 2: Fight Club?
- 38:40Speaker 1: Okay? Bichael, all right, we are going first. And what's
- 38:43Speaker 1: our category here? Coop, you've been number three? The Credible Hulk,
- 38:45Speaker 1: I believe are these athletes are?
- 38:47Speaker 4: Here?
- 38:47Speaker 1: We go, Jamar the beer Man. These athletes are or
- 38:51Speaker 1: we're all freakishly strong? Are you ready? All right? Forty
- 38:56Speaker 1: five seconds on the clock. We're on our way.
- 38:58Speaker 4: Go.
- 38:59Speaker 1: The Star are for the Lakers with Kobe Bryant the
- 39:02Speaker 1: center for the Lakers. Yes, a great defensive tackle for
- 39:07Speaker 1: the Rams. He retired. He might come out of retirement
- 39:10Speaker 1: to play again. Here Donald, Yes, running back for the Raiders.
- 39:14Speaker 1: He played baseball for the Royals in the nineteen eighties. Yeah,
- 39:18Speaker 1: look at you. Slugger for the Florida Marlins. He was
- 39:21Speaker 1: traded to the Yankees. He's kind of old now. Designated hitter,
- 39:25Speaker 1: still hits a lot of home runs. He's always hurt
- 39:28Speaker 1: no running back for the Cleveland Rounds. Kind of like
- 39:34Speaker 1: a flub if you will here? What no, what do
- 39:41Speaker 1: vines there? Sounds like just ruined the engine trying to
- 39:46Speaker 1: I didn't try to cheat.
- 39:47Speaker 2: I should get like.
- 39:48Speaker 1: An extra eighty one. Kind of like flub? Are you
- 39:51Speaker 1: kidding me? When is that? Okay? Jamar? You didn't get
- 39:54Speaker 1: it right anyway? Right, I didn't get it right exactly,
- 39:57Speaker 1: so we don't get penalized. Screw you group, Sure, jerk,
- 40:00Speaker 1: you need Jamar?
- 40:01Speaker 4: Alright, joe all right, Joey, we've got fight club. Uh.
- 40:07Speaker 4: These athletes have all been in notable fights. Are you ready, Joey? Yeah,
- 40:13Speaker 4: all right, forty five seconds. Let's begin. Defensive player of
- 40:16Speaker 4: the Year. He's on the Cleveland Browns. He hit a
- 40:18Speaker 4: quarterback with his helmet.
- 40:20Speaker 1: What's that? What's his full name?
- 40:23Speaker 2: Oh? Oh my god?
- 40:27Speaker 1: Oh all right, we're gonna skip that. Uh.
- 40:31Speaker 4: This guy started the malice at the Palace. Is he
- 40:34Speaker 4: changed his name later in his career?
- 40:36Speaker 1: Yes?
- 40:37Speaker 4: Uh, this guy was a picture for the Red Sox.
- 40:39Speaker 4: He had a Jerry curl. He threw Don Zimmer to
- 40:41Speaker 4: the ground. Uh Martinez, Yes, this guy was the best
- 40:45Speaker 4: wide receiver in Texans history before DeAndre Hopkins. Yes, this
- 40:52Speaker 4: guy choked his coach uh PJ Carlissimo.
- 40:57Speaker 1: Yes, let's go the ketchrick. Oh, Ben, you only got
- 41:02Speaker 1: sixty years? All right, all right, we're up, Jamar. We
- 41:05Speaker 1: have what we got moon Rise Kingdom and a complete unknown.
- 41:11Speaker 3: You're complete unknown?
- 41:13Speaker 1: Okay? H forty five seconds. These athletes became stars out
- 41:16Speaker 1: of nowhere. First and last name. He is the star
- 41:20Speaker 1: for the Denver Nuggets, nicknamed the Joker. Uh native Lokvi,
- 41:27Speaker 1: I love the mis pronouncing greatest show on turf. Quarterback
- 41:31Speaker 1: for the Saint Louis Rams. Yes. Uh. He was with
- 41:35Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs as a sixth man key player
- 41:39Speaker 1: in the Glory years. No, another guy off the bench,
- 41:43Speaker 1: all right? How about for the Knickerbockers. He was a guard,
- 41:46Speaker 1: missed a lot of three point shots in the nineties
- 41:49Speaker 1: and had a name. What oh you you're own? You're
- 41:56Speaker 1: every guy with the game. We wi wait a huge
- 42:04Speaker 1: that's Cooper Loop ruined the game for a beer man.