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"She Had to Tell Her Husband He Was Losing His Limbs. Then She Had to Do It 4 More Times." · Inside The Moms Club

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  Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was, you know, my background
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  Speaker 1: as a lawyer or just a mom of poor kids.
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  Speaker 1: You get into a mode where, Okay, this is what's happening,
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  Speaker 1: and we're just going to see what it is we
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  Speaker 1: need to do.
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  Speaker 2: This is a conversation we're excited about. It's about resilience, partnership, motherhood.
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  Speaker 1: Our youngest really just wanted her dad home. She was
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  Speaker 1: the first to say, look, I don't care if you're
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  Speaker 1: in a wheelchair. I want you to come home.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club. I'm your host, Monica Samuels,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm here with my co host, Julie Orkard. Hey, Julie,
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  Speaker 2: Hey Monica, how are you today? On this beautiful And
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  Speaker 2: we never talked about the day that we're recording, but
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  Speaker 2: today is actually we're going to say it today. Today
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  Speaker 2: is April fifteenth.
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  Speaker 3: It is tax day, always has been, so it.
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  Speaker 2: Always has been. But you know, April fifteenth. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: love history, so I have to share, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, Okay, tell us what else it?
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  Speaker 2: April fifteenth? Yeah, Lincoln died.
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  Speaker 3: Only Monica would know that Titanic sank.
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  Speaker 2: It's my sister's birthday, which that was a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: I guess No, I'm not just I guess it was
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  Speaker 2: a good thing. Yeah, happy birthday to her. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: not Tree John Cathedral burned.
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  Speaker 3: No way on April fifteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So all those things happen in April fifteenth, which
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  Speaker 2: is very stressful, very just the thought of a is
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  Speaker 2: a stressful day.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you've made my blood pressure go up just
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  Speaker 4: by telling me those things.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome, aren't you. Yeah, I did that for you.
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  Speaker 2: Are were you already stressed enough?
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  Speaker 4: I'm stressed, but I'm not stressed about taxes and doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean that I don't have to pay them, because I
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  Speaker 4: do and stuff like that. But lately I have been
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  Speaker 4: more stressed about thinking about how I will continue to
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  Speaker 4: be in good health and take care of myself. And
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  Speaker 4: so I think I had a rude interruption when I
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  Speaker 4: decided to climb the Grand Canyon in February and I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, oh, I'm not strong, yeah, and so
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  Speaker 4: like trying to second my core, the core I don't
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  Speaker 4: have that I'm working on the quad strength. That was
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  Speaker 4: huge for me and it really woke me up. So
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  Speaker 4: sometimes we, you know, have things happen in our life
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  Speaker 4: that kind of come knocking on the door and say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we think that you need to pay attention to this.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's what I've been doing.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm really stressed out about the weightlifting that I've
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  Speaker 4: been doing because I'm not good at it.
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  Speaker 2: So you were, Now you kind of did this a
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  Speaker 2: little bit backwards because why oh yeah, before you went
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  Speaker 2: to the Grand Canyon hiking, and I wondered about that
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  Speaker 2: because I asked her, so are you ready for this?
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  Speaker 2: And she said, well, I've walked a couple of flights
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  Speaker 2: of stairs and that was her idea of training and
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to go to the Grand Canyon. So now
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  Speaker 2: that you've been to the Grand Canyon and found it
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a struggle because you weren't ready for it,
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  Speaker 2: well you're now getting ready to go to the Grand Canyon.
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  Speaker 4: When you got back, I'll say, you've got to have
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  Speaker 4: a good attitude, which I came intact with that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I just really needed to focus and so I started
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  Speaker 4: something new. I'm actually doing something about it instead of
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  Speaker 4: complaining about it or just talking about it. So I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a critical It plays a critical role, especially
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  Speaker 4: at our age, like everybody's talking about lifting weights and
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  Speaker 4: how important that is and you know, a.
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  Speaker 3: Fiber protein.
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  Speaker 4: All of these things are becoming top not top versus
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  Speaker 4: like cardio and starving yourself or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you got to keep your muscle well right.
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  Speaker 2: Being fit, which before like my son right now is
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  Speaker 2: creating an app for athletes, okay, and he said, the
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  Speaker 2: thing I noticed about apps up to this point, mom,
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  Speaker 2: is they're all about losing weight. So that has been
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  Speaker 2: the focus in the past, is not about being healthy
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  Speaker 2: right and fit. And I actually I was really fit
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  Speaker 2: for quite a while and then I took four steps
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  Speaker 2: across my entryway at my house. I remember this, did
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  Speaker 2: my foot broke it and had two surgeries, and then
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  Speaker 2: I could never get back into right what I was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you have to stick with it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it only takes one moment in your life where
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  Speaker 4: you take a look at yourself and or whatever could
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  Speaker 4: be happening. It could be an accident, it could be
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  Speaker 4: an illness, it could be you know, anything and everything.
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  Speaker 4: So a great example is my neurologist constantly tells me, Julie,
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  Speaker 4: you have to do balance, you have to do strength
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  Speaker 4: training and all of that because with MS patients you
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  Speaker 4: have to keep up your strength. So until I did
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  Speaker 4: that hike and something. I fell three times on the hike,
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  Speaker 4: so I decided that I needed to be stronger.
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  Speaker 2: So well, good for you.
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  Speaker 3: Practice strength.
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  Speaker 2: And I've been told to by my doctor because you know,
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  Speaker 2: I started taking is it GLP one glib yeah or what?
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  Speaker 2: And that wastes away your muscles. She said, you got
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  Speaker 2: to lift weights right. You must lift weights right.
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  Speaker 4: So there's no easy button here, not with any of
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  Speaker 4: you know, any of it, And so.
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  Speaker 2: You have to cognitively be all together and you have
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  Speaker 2: to deal with your stress and your mental I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to really focus on your being all the
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  Speaker 2: way around, like being healthy and totally.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, there's good days and bad
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  Speaker 4: days when it comes to it. But I think most
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  Speaker 4: of all that the strength part is something that we
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  Speaker 4: learned a lot about when we spoke to this guest
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  Speaker 4: who are about to introduce.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and you're getting a lot and you're getting me there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because yesterday Julie signed me up for a weight training class.
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  Speaker 2: I did thirty minute session. And the reason I brought
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  Speaker 2: up the cognitive part of it is because the person
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  Speaker 2: texted me and said, what day and time do you
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  Speaker 2: want your disappointment and I said August twenty fourth at
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  Speaker 2: one pm, and they kindly responded that they don't make
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  Speaker 2: appointments out that far in advance.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe you want to consider I was a little out.
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  Speaker 2: Before I forgot that this was April, so anyway, but
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  Speaker 2: I will be there with you, okay. And yes, you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned our guest, and I am so excited today that
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  Speaker 2: we have someone who is going to remind us about
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  Speaker 2: really how a strong mom can be, well, how strong
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  Speaker 2: a mom can be when life takes a completely different
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  Speaker 2: turn that you weren't expecting. She is a former Dallas attorney,
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  Speaker 2: a mom of four in a blended, beautifully blended family,
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  Speaker 2: and a woman who's life changed when her husband survived
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  Speaker 2: two bouts with sepsis, which ultimately resulted in losing all
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  Speaker 2: of his limbs. This is a conversation we're excited about.
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  Speaker 2: It's about resilience, partnership, motherhood, and what it really means
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  Speaker 2: to show up when everything feels turned upside down. Please
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  Speaker 2: welcome today, Victoria Russis Welcome to the Mom's Club.
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  Speaker 5: Victoria, Hi, guys, thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you listening to you.
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  Speaker 1: Guys talk about the working out and laughing over here
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  Speaker 1: because I also just started a wellness program.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought.
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  Speaker 1: I was pretty fit. I'm chasing around an eight year old.
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  Speaker 1: I pick up my husband's wheelchair, going up and down
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  Speaker 1: the stairs. I did my first leg workout and did
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  Speaker 1: not walk normally for four days because of the quads. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's serious. You don't work those muscles and
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  Speaker 1: they they really tighten up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Who knew going down a hill would have such a
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  Speaker 4: massive effect on your life.
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  Speaker 3: It was intense.
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  Speaker 2: And you said going down was harder than going up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean way harder.
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  Speaker 4: You're putting rusher on your back, you're carrying a pack,
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  Speaker 4: You're using your quads to lift, same as you do
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  Speaker 4: in a squat. And yeah, now, so I'm learning.
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  Speaker 2: So we discover muscles we didn't even remember that we had.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess, Victoria, you're you're very true. Well you
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  Speaker 2: need to join us, come with me to lift Juliet
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  Speaker 2: more than have. All I can figure is I really
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  Speaker 2: When she did this, I thought, I bet she's getting
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  Speaker 2: something kind of kickback from members that.
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  Speaker 3: Like, oh totally.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing is that also I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: do it alone. And we spend a lot of time together,
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  Speaker 4: and so I usually like to complain or about something
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  Speaker 4: and not do anything about it. But I was so
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  Speaker 4: excited that I'm actually doing it. I actually really like it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good, I'm glad. I'm glad you felt that that
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  Speaker 2: was what prompted you to want me to that you
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  Speaker 2: wanted to share that with me. Yeah, I think you're
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  Speaker 2: so insistent about it, And I know why could you
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  Speaker 2: want to spend more time with me? Not for the discount? Okay, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: that's good luck with you Victoria and your fitness. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: please feel free to come join us and she might
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  Speaker 2: get another twenty five percent off, So all be good.
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  Speaker 2: Well hear, let's hear your story. Now, let's go back
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  Speaker 2: a little bit about how you met your husband Ron.
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  Speaker 2: You tell us tell us the backstory, like how this
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  Speaker 2: romance came to be. Tell us tell us how you
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  Speaker 2: two came together.
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  Speaker 5: So we had kids at the same elementary.
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  Speaker 1: School for three to four years before we crossed paths,
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  Speaker 1: had a lot of the same friend groups, and I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's all about timing.
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  Speaker 5: And we met it a.
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  Speaker 1: Christmas party, mutual friends Christmas party, and it was just
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  Speaker 1: kind of love at first sight. We had a friend
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  Speaker 1: try to set us up about two months prior and
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  Speaker 1: just never connected and when we saw each other, the
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  Speaker 1: party didn't even realize at the time that you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were supposed to meet and ended up blending our
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  Speaker 1: families and getting married and having another canoe to add
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  Speaker 1: to the group.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. So, as I understand, so you have a son,
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  Speaker 2: he had two daughters, and you have a daughter together.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, And he was.
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  Speaker 2: A professional tennis player on top of like he played
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he played on the ninety two Notre Dame
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  Speaker 1: team and they made a run to the finals of
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  Speaker 1: the NC Double as they you know, he played tennis,
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  Speaker 1: you know through pretty much throughout his whole life. Was
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  Speaker 1: a professional tennis player for a short time after that
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  Speaker 1: on the tour, coached, and then came to Dallas for
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  Speaker 1: a banking job and started working at a local country
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  Speaker 1: club working with the kids and did that for a
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  Speaker 1: few years, went back into banking, but always stayed in
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  Speaker 1: the tennis community coaching. He coached all three of our kids,
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  Speaker 1: the older ones, and both the girls played high school tennis,
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  Speaker 1: and so it was, you know, we were just kind
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  Speaker 1: of a tennis family, always on the court out there,
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  Speaker 1: and he was always playing always coaching, doing drills and
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  Speaker 1: things in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: So you have to be really fit to play tennis
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  Speaker 2: at that level. Now, I've played tennis at my level
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  Speaker 2: and have not had to be that fit, but I
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  Speaker 2: actually at that end of the day, actually he was a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good tennis player, So I know there are times,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, so he must it has been incredibly incredibly fit. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: very so. What happened, So there were two ballots of
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  Speaker 2: sepsist What was the first What happened the first time
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  Speaker 2: that so in.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen, we were dating and had only been dating
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  Speaker 1: a few months, he came down with strep throat and,
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  Speaker 1: being you know, a typical guy also very busy with
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  Speaker 1: the kids, kind of put it off, didn't go to
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  Speaker 1: the doctor and ended up going septic from strep throat,
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  Speaker 1: which is a known you know thing that can happen
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  Speaker 1: if you put off getting treated for strap it's a bacteria,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me.
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  Speaker 5: And so he.
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  Speaker 1: Was put in an induced coma and on an ecmo machine,
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  Speaker 1: which is a form of life support where your blood is.
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  Speaker 5: Pumped for you through your body.
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  Speaker 1: He had heart failure from that bout of sepsis, and
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  Speaker 1: but you know, he came out great, came back to tennis,
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  Speaker 1: working out totally fit. He didn't have any other health
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  Speaker 1: problems until twenty twenty two, and in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: Two he came down with sepsis again.
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  Speaker 1: This time it was very quick, so he was not
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  Speaker 1: feeling well woll Goup. We thought he probably just had
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  Speaker 1: the flu, and within twenty four hours he was intubated.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Do you do they mention?
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  Speaker 4: What do you think it was from an infection or yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he had pneumonia.
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  Speaker 1: They don't know exactly why it was that he went septic,
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  Speaker 1: whether he aspirated on something because he was ill, or
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  Speaker 1: if some type of bug wasn't as lung that yeah,
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  Speaker 1: quickly caused the infection.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I think the thing that people as you get older,
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  Speaker 2: especially that you don't appreciate, is a bacterial infection like that.
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  Speaker 2: Can you really do have to take it seriously? I
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  Speaker 2: know years ago I had developed this staph infection. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize that's what it was. And I was hosting
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  Speaker 2: something for my kids and my nieces called Aunt Monica's
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  Speaker 2: Summer Camp, which was so important to.
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  Speaker 3: Me, which I would like to go to you way, It.
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  Speaker 2: Was really something and I went through the whole I
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  Speaker 2: went through a whole week and my nose was getting
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  Speaker 2: like I had a place on my nose was even
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  Speaker 2: worse and worse and worse and worse. And I finally
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  Speaker 2: go to the doctor and they're like, uh, you got
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  Speaker 2: a really bad staff infection. And the doctor came in
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  Speaker 2: a hazmat suit to you know, greet me and take it.
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  Speaker 2: And even a week later after all this medication, said well,
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  Speaker 2: you're not out of the woods yet, And I said,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know I was even in the woods, but yes,
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  Speaker 2: you have to be, you know, all of you moms
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  Speaker 2: out there to be very mindful of that. So when
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  Speaker 2: he had the after the pneumonia, what led to him
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  Speaker 2: losing his arms and legs from that mount of sepsis
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  Speaker 2: what what caused the ultimately for that to happen.
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  Speaker 1: So when he went in that evening, he was intubated.
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  Speaker 1: Within a few hours, they put him on an ecmo
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  Speaker 1: machine and used a medication called vasopressors. So vasopressors constrict
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  Speaker 1: your blood flow to your extremities, including your brain, so
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  Speaker 1: it really just focuses on allowing blood flow to get
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  Speaker 1: to your main vital organs, heart, lungs, liver and kidneys,
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  Speaker 1: and he even after all the medications that he was
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  Speaker 1: on the ECMO machine, they still were really having a
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  Speaker 1: hard time keeping his oxygenation levels up and his blood pressure.
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  Speaker 1: And so he was on the vasopressors, a very large
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  Speaker 1: Joseph them for an extended period of time. It did
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  Speaker 1: save his life, but what it does is restricts blood
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  Speaker 1: flow to the extremities. And so as the days went on,
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  Speaker 1: we could start to see his fingers, it's like a
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  Speaker 1: piece of his ear lobe, his nose start to turn
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  Speaker 1: to krotic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, looks like a really bad frostbite and coloring.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes.
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  Speaker 5: And so eventually, you know, he was able to wake up,
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  Speaker 5: but that.
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  Speaker 1: Led to imputations because the blood flood doesn't come back
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  Speaker 1: to those areas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So, just for people listening, Monica and I have a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of experience with friends who have experienced terrible
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  Speaker 4: tragedy from becoming septic. Meaning our friend's husband didn't make it.
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  Speaker 4: And also we have a friend who has been septic
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  Speaker 4: multiple multiple times and luckily enough, continues to fight.
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  Speaker 3: But I will tell.
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  Speaker 4: You that you know, give us, you know what they
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  Speaker 4: were telling you, as far as you know sepsis, isn't
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  Speaker 4: you know, a poisonous to your you know, your bloodstream,
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  Speaker 4: and there are certain criteria that you have to meet.
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  Speaker 4: So what were they telling you when he was first
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  Speaker 4: you know, when he was intubated and that you know,
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  Speaker 4: his limbs started turning to krotic. What did they tell
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  Speaker 4: you that you could expect?
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  Speaker 5: Initially, they weren't sure that he was going to make it.
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  Speaker 1: And once he did turn a corner, he because he
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  Speaker 1: initially was in septic shock, he had the c which
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  Speaker 1: is where your blood starts to claw to clot and
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  Speaker 1: so your organs can begin to fail, and he, you know,
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  Speaker 1: eventually like his lungs were completely wided out, and so
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  Speaker 1: I was told multiple times that that he wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to make it. Once he did turn the corner. They
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  Speaker 1: initially told us that he was probably going to lose
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  Speaker 1: a few fingers and maybe some toes. But as the
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  Speaker 1: days went on, you could see the line of demarcation
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  Speaker 1: is what they call it, so continue to move up
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  Speaker 1: and it was on all four of his limbs. He
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  Speaker 1: had initially also had a spot on the back of
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  Speaker 1: his head and they were concerned about brain damage. The
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  Speaker 1: nurses did a test that I guess checked his brain
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  Speaker 1: function and this is probably on about day fourteen fifteen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Shocked that he had any brain function. And yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean today he's great, he's back out on the tennis
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  Speaker 1: court and working and you know, able to be here
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  Speaker 1: for our kids. So, I mean, it was truly a miracle,
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  Speaker 1: but at the time very scary that we did not know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure it seemed insurmountable when you're there in
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  Speaker 4: the moment and your whole life is about to change.
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  Speaker 4: But in the end, where did you What did you
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  Speaker 4: decide I'm just going to give him a fighting chance.
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  Speaker 4: Did he let you know? How did this? How did
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  Speaker 4: you guys come, you know, to this decision? You know,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: sometimes it's a really hard conversation that people have to communicate.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And he when he woke up initially, so he was
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: still intubated, and when they pull you out of an
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: induced coma, it takes a little bit of time for
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: him to cognitively understand what was happening.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Right, So, when he.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: First woke up and I had to tell him that
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: he was going to have amputations. At this point, I
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: didn't know how much, but I knew for sure his
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: right arm, I mean, he couldn't lift it. It was
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: already partially black right and you he just nodded and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: like he completely understood and which is happy to be there.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: And that was a very difficult conversation for me, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: to have to have with him. I didn't realize that
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: then I was going to have to have it about
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: four more times.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: But remember right, it wasn't a one time, a one
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: and done.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: It was multiple times and multiple surgeries, and.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, so every you know, then he would go back
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to sleep, he would wake up and not know again
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: what where he was or what was happening, and so
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you know, we would go through the process again. But
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: lucky for me, he was able to wake up fully
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: before the decisions were made about which surgeon to do
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the amputations with. It wasn't so much of whether or
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not we were going to do them, because there's I mean,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: at this point, there wasn't a choice unless I guess
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: he could have said no and he would have been
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: ended up septic again. But we were able to talk
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to surgeons in Dallas do some research and ended up
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in Ohio State with a doctor who had been in
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the military and then was at Wesner, Ohio State, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: he was just amazing. He's a plastic reconstructive surgeon, and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: so it wasn't a hey, we're going to cut off
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: your limbs, then you'll go to rehab.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: And good luck.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: He really listened to what Ron had to say, what
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: he wanted talk to us about, you know, the pain
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that can happen with imputations, and how some of the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: surgical intervention can either prevent or limit.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: Some of that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: He was also able to save all of his joints,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: which was huge. Yes, And so we were.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: In Ohio for nine weeks. He had seventy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Hours worth of surgeries and it was nine surgeries. They
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: took pieces from all over his body to reconstruct his
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: limbs and it was I mean, they did an amazing job.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: So we're grateful.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: How long did it take you to find that doctor?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: And I will say those being able to choose a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: physician somewhere in the country who specialize, especially the people
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: like military, especially with plastic surgery and that sort of thing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I got hit in the
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: face with a golf ball and had like a giant
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: dimitch pretty much a tivot and to cross my face
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: and that plastic surgeon had been in the army. Yeah
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: you can, you can't. He was the best. I mean,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you can't stay it at all. So how long was
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: it that you it took you to find this person
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: or like, how much time did you have even with
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: this situation with his.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: We took about a month between the time that he
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: got out of the ICU and we went to Ohio
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have been about three weeks, but he we started looking
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: while we were still in ICU, And I mean it's basic, Okay,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: what happens next? You know what type of surgeries are available.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: And my parents did a lot of the leg legwork
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and research into microsurgery and who in the country, you know,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was the best, who had a team, because for Ron
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it wasn't just legs or just arms. His was both
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and so finding a facility that had specialists in both
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: was really important to us, especially Ron All. I mean,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you would think with all the things going on he
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: would have tennis wouldn't have been back on the table Syston,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: but he wanted to save his elbow joint so that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: he could play tennis again, and that was a huge.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Thing for him.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I mean when he was still in the Awpittle was
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: you know, this is something I've done for you know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: forty fifty years, and I want to continue being able
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to play. We didn't know at that time what that
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: looked like, but he did know that losing his elbow
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: jumt would you know, cause a larger obstacle down the road.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: So what was his overall attitude through all of this,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: knowing you know, what was happening, like, what was his attitude?
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: I think he was just so happy to be here.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You know. We have four kids, and I think they
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: were able to start seeing him when he was in ICU,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and our youngest really just wanted her dad home, you know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: before anyone even knew that he was going to have
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: amputations what was going on, she was the first to say, look,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I don't care if you're in a wheelchair.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I want you to come home.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And I think that gave him, you know, a lot
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: of hope that okay, I'm here, what's next? Like? And
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: so he was really once we found doctor Susa, he
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: was all in on that process.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Well it goes to show how smart children are, right,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: So you're not defined by your limbs and you're not
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: defined by the fact that you were this when you
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: did have limbs, incredible tennis player. Only to show them
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: that you will come back from this, and I think
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: that that's a huge fascinating part of it. So Monica
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: and I had the pleasure of going to LA and
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: doing you know, being participating in gold Meats Golden which
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: was sponsored with Angels City Sports, and it's all the
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: amputees that were there and oh my gosh, I mean
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: it's incredible. Autobac was there and it was a great
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: chance to see everybody and the life that they lead.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: What's the most fascinating thing you've seen him do since?
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I think being back on the tennis court. Oh,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: he has this dream of attending and playing in the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: US Open and the division, you know.
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: Being his wife when that when the first that I
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: was like, okay, you know, let's work on, you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: getting in the car and.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: You guys have different goals, different goals.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, but now to see him back out and play
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: is just amazing. I mean, he really has put the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: work in and he just he hits the ball so well.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: And I was a tennis player and so you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: knowing how difficult it is when you have all of
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: your lists, right. I didn't have high expectations, you know.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I thought it was great that he was going to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: get back out on the court and this was going
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to be a fun thing to do. I really didn't
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: expect him to play at such a high level and
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: he's doing so well.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, Well, that's the one thing about being an athlete
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: and college athlete. I think you're you're the way you're built,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, the way the way you you know, conduct
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: your life. You're sort of programmed that way that I'm
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: not surprised that that's the attitude that he took about it. Well,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: let's we talked a lot about him. Obviously that's an
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: important part of the story. But what about you, Like
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: how did you manage and the kids? You know, what
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: was going on with them, but particularly how did how
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: did you personally? Like how did you handle the stress? Yeah?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: You know, well I think I didn't know if it
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: was you know, my background as a lawyer or just
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: a mom.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Of poor kids.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You get into a mode where okay, this is what's happening,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and we're just going to see what it is we
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: need to do. There wasn't a whole lot of time
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to process or think, And that doesn't mean that I
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: didn't have, you know, some breakdowns, especially when they were
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: telling me that he was not going to make it.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: But once he was able to turn the corner, it
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was more about planning what's next. And at the same time,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I had four kids, three of them were well, one
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: was a freshman in college and two in high school.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: So I had three senior years, which is not something
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I recommend.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: In a row.
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: Now, yeah, that's yeah, if you've been through that, it's
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: it's it's a labor of love and so and we
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: also had a kindergartener at home, and so there was
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: just a lot of planning that went around, whereas everyone
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: you know, what needs to be done on the normal
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: day to day at home, and then most of my
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: time was spent at the hospital.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Right right ron.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: So you have a kid the most pivotal year of
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: their life, they say, is kindergarten, and then you have
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: three that you're trying to launch out and they're you know,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: probably hammering you about essays or where to go and
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: can we do this? And I mean that, like Monica said, alone,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: is very difficult.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that by itself would be enough to what a.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Time right, it was.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: But I think having all of that going on was
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: probably what got me through it. You know, it wasn't
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the focus just on having your spouse seriously ill and
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: then you know, going into amputations, life had to go on,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you know, not only for him but for everyone else.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: And so I think that's a big part of what
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: got me through. Just the day to day was all right,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: let's keep going.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Did you pick up a hobby during this time?
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: I did.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, I started embroidering, Oh I love
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: love making clothes and tee towels, and launched a business
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: with a friend of mine, be the Collection be E,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: and it's all about our motto is really just be yourself.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And we wanted to provide, like we both have young
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: girls and show them that just being you is important.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And so, you know, they got to create clothes and
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: mostly jackets and things like that, and I think.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: That's kids get so excited about that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Kind of stuff. And so I really loved doing that,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you know, around the neighborhood, and people can order online
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and we you know, customized jackets and clothing, and we've
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: expanded into doing branding for businesses, and so it's been
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: a great way for me personally to have my own space, right,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I needed to be here at the house.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: It's getting better, you know, as time goes on, where
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: where Ron is more independent, but I still need to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: be at home. And so you know, I'm able to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: go in my garage and turn on that embroidering machine and.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I turned the music on really loud. I can't hear
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: anyone or anything.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I'm so impressed. I was going to say, the reason
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I know that Victoria could do all these things to
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: get through it is because I too, am an attorney,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and so I know how attorneys are, so we have
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: that in common. Like I had every confidence that an
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: attorney can manage all of these things. But I will
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: say I cannot embroider.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: He haven't tried.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I know I would be bad at it. I don't
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: think I could. I'm very in awe of you that
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you were able to do that well, Victoria. We have
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: some moms who would like to ask you some questions
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: as well, and they are our zoomer moms. So welcome,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: zoomer moms. Welcome to the Mom's Club. I am going
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to introduce each one of you and just tell us
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: your name, a little bit about yourself, and do you
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: have a question for Victoria Koran. Welcome to the Mom's Club.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. Yes, my name is Koran. I
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: hail from Memphis, Tennessee, and I'm a mother of two
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: grown sons and I must say I'm greatly appreciative of
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: the opportunity to join you all today. Thank you, Victoria.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: I must say that the strength you've exhibited to support
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: your family as a wife, mother, an advocate is very inspirational.
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: My question for you. You mentioned that your husband has persevered
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: to still play tennis and to contribute to the growth
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: and wellbeing of your family. Would you mind sharing just
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: some specific strategies that you employed to stay grounded every
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: day as you experienced this great question.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: That is a great question.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I personally am in therapy and have been since this happened.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's huge for mental health is to make
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: sure that you have, you know a place to vent
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and to gain coping skills. And so that's for me huge.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Having a gratitude journal, and then Ron and I just
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: we make it a point to communicate about what's going on,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: what our expectations are, not only with like the kids,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: but with each other and really kind of work on
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: making sure that we're both on the same page and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that I know what's going on in his mind and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: he knows what's going on in mind as much as
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: we can, just so that there's not that miscommunication that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: causes strife.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm meeting of the minds.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Emily, welcome to the mom's Club. Tell us a
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: little bit about yourself and you have a question. Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: So I'm Emily helm and I am a wife and
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: MoMA four. My husband is a child psychiatrists and so
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: I work for him, and so so much of how
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: I view everyday life is through that lens of mental health,
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: and so I think, you know, just thinking about all
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: that you have been through. I know you just sort
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: of touched on that about like keeping a gratitude journal
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: and things like that. But I am in all of
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: your mental strength, especially with four.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Kids leaning on you when you're trying to be.
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: Wrong for yourself, and as moms, we always put ourselves last.
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: So anyway, I'm just I love that you pay attention
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: to that and that you guys communicate.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: My guess my question is how did your kids respond.
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: I feel like you would have had to meet them
• 33:16
  Speaker 9: into varied maybe four very different places. But a kindergartener
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: and almost some in college, late high school, those are
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: very different needs and responses. I would think that they
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: would have to this terrible situation. So how did the
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: kids come through that?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: You're right, it was two very different places. Our kindergartener,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I will say, I think was the most resilient because
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: for her, at that young age, it was just like, Okay,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: this happened. You know, now my dad doesn't have arms
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and legs, and that's what she would tell her friend.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: She's like, oh, can meet my dad. He doesn't have
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: arms and legs, and so she just had this positive
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: outlook about it. You know. There were definitely struggles that
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: we've seen with her as far as mom was away
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: for nine weeks in Ohio and luckily I was able
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to come home some, but that was really tough for her,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and we've seen that, you know, kind of carry through.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: But the older kids really stepped up. And I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it was very difficult on our oldest because she wasn't here.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: She was in college and she was home when it happened.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: But when he was still in the ICU, it is
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: time to go back to school, and you know, we
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: got to have a heart teart and I was like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: this is what your dad would want. You need to
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: live your life and you know, continue with college. But
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: her not being here to see the changes that came
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: before the imputations, I think made it difficult to accept
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: that that, you know, was the case that he needed those.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: But all the kids really stepped up and helped cook
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: and clean and you know, continued with school, and.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: So they don't give him any kind of path.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's well, they're kids and they're like, okay, Dad,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: get up, you know, time to go.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: We're gonna get dressed, let's go.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: And so I think that's really been healthy for everyone.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, it's laid on the line.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah Yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Aaron, welcome to the Mom's Club. Tell us a little
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: bit about yourself and you have a question. Sure.
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: Thank you for having me today. This has been an
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: incredible story. My name is Aaron Garrett and I'm a
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: wife and we have a blended family as well of
• 35:41
  Speaker 10: seven kids.
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: But Victoria, your story's been such an inspiration and especially
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: your resiliency, not only individually and hearing about Ron's but
• 35:53
  Speaker 11: also as a family. How would you say this has
• 35:57
  Speaker 11: reshaped your approach to motherhood and then all so to
• 36:00
  Speaker 11: your marriage.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Good question, that's a tough one.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: I think that with motherhood it's made me well. First
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: of all, I.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Had older kids and then a younger one, so I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: think it was already a little bit more relaxed.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: But when something like this happens.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: You really start to realize that the small stuff just
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't matter. You know, if the dishes aren't picked
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: up and the house isn't clean today.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: That's okay, and we're all going to get through it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: If somebody is upset and doesn't want to go, you know,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: to dance one day, you know that that's fine too.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: And I think that there just had to be a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: lot of okay, you know, let's just let's just go
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: with whatever your capacity is today, whatever that might be.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: And so that's changed, both probably with Ron as well
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: as with the kids. Is I've just learned to realize
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: that not only do I have limits on my capacity,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: so does everyone else.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: And so instead of trying to make.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Things work the way we think they should, we just
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: do the best that we can and keep going.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Stephanie, Welcome to the Mom's Club. Do you have a
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  Speaker 2: question for Victoria? Hi, Victoria.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, we as moms, as it was mentioned, put ourselves
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  Speaker 12: last on the back burner. What do you do besides
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  Speaker 12: embroidery for fine that mentally recharges you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I have a huge group of amazing friends that
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  Speaker 1: I you know, try to spend as much time with
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  Speaker 1: as possible.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes that's with the kids. Sometimes it's you know, just.
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  Speaker 1: Getting together with the girls for a happy hour, and
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  Speaker 1: I try to make that a priority.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes it can.
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  Speaker 1: You know, be difficult to do, but I always feel
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  Speaker 1: recharged after, you know, I get to spend some time
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  Speaker 1: with you know, other friends and moms and outside friends.
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  Speaker 1: And I also started a wellness program, which you know,
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  Speaker 1: I might not think of as doing something for myself,
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  Speaker 1: but I do, like I feel so much better when
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  Speaker 1: I have this structure and just you know, getting to
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  Speaker 1: the workout twice a week and it may not be
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  Speaker 1: a lot, but it's it's something that kind of gives
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  Speaker 1: me my me time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is great, And you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you pretty much summed it up. You have a mom's club,
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  Speaker 2: I mean she does. If you really we're going to
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: use that as an advertisement. If you don't mind. We're
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: going to use your Yeah, you'll be seeing this for
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: years to come out. Those words about all your friends
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  Speaker 2: and how well she said.
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  Speaker 4: Two major things the capacity to do what you can
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  Speaker 4: do during the day, right, and then the other thing
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  Speaker 4: is friends like that you make it a priority, the whole.
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  Speaker 2: Point of what we're what we're all about. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's I think that's absolutely amazing. As we say here, awesome, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: lowsom it's not a good word, so we'll just stick
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  Speaker 2: with awesome. Well, so, Victoria, this is all. This has
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  Speaker 2: been tremendous. We've really enjoyed talking to you and hearing
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: your story, and we have a special surprise for you.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: So this is exciting. Yes, Earth Day, they have a
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: big Earth Day event all over the world. Actually, but
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: there's a big event, a big conference in Dallas, Texas
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: and April twentieth to the twenty second, I believe it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: around that time, and this will be their sixtieth anniversary
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  Speaker 2: of having this event, so it's a really big event.
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  Speaker 2: This year they're gonna honor ed Begley Junior and his
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: wife Rochelle will be there and they will be honored.
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  Speaker 2: And actually we've had Rachelle on the show. Her daughter Hayden,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: who we've also had on the show, will also be there.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Kelly Rasberry, who has been on our show, is also
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: going to be a speaker at the event. Tory Hart,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: who's awesome. All these people that have been on our
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: show are going to be at this event, and we
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: are pleased to tell you that you and Ron have
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: two VIP tickets to birthday, So we are so excited.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to actually be there. Back in the previous life,
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  Speaker 2: I was an environmental attorney, So I'm excited to hear
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  Speaker 2: everything with all the panelists say and meet all the
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  Speaker 2: wonderful people. And I look forward to meeting you as well,
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  Speaker 2: and then you and I can plan our exercise program
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  Speaker 2: here that is putting us on so great now. We're
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  Speaker 2: so excited and so and thank you so much for
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  Speaker 2: being here, and thank you so much, thank you and
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: thank you Zoomer Moms, thank you for joining us as well. You,
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  Speaker 2: as always our Zoomer Moms, asked tremendous questions. We always
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• 40:49
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• 40:52
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• 40:58
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  Speaker 2: can ask questions of our guests, which is always an
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: important part of our show. They always ask things that
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  Speaker 2: Julie and I didn't even think to ask us. You know,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: stop and say gee, its advantage, you know, it's great,
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• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I think we've done podcasts on everything. We have almost.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Pretty much, but there's there's so much more to do, Julie,
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  Speaker 2: that's the exciting part.
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  Speaker 3: I'm here for it, that's right.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: And what is our tagline? Our tabline? The thing that
• 41:53
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• 41:57
  Speaker 2: don't laugh, sometimes you are going to cry. We are
• 42:00
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