Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Questions for Carolyne and Jamie Tonight
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- 0:30what is going on everybody
- 0:31welcome to sunday sunday
- 0:35sunday night crossfit talk
- 0:38we are here live for
- 0:39another edition of our
- 0:40sunday night crossfit talk
- 0:42so good to be with the
- 0:43family we got jody we got
- 0:45kenneth we got denise we
- 0:47got trinkt olive we've got
- 0:49craig all hanging out with
- 0:51us already lido from nyc
- 0:54she's made it across the pond oh wow
- 0:58Now we get little notifiers
- 1:00when people enter the.
- 1:01Yeah, that was interesting.
- 1:02Yeah.
- 1:04So without further ado.
- 1:05Later.
- 1:06Ma'am.
- 1:10So the funny thing is,
- 1:11Carolyn is always a little
- 1:12bit late now because she
- 1:14has to finish her dinner
- 1:15because her mom gives her
- 1:16shit if she gets on the air and eats.
- 1:20Always got to please mom.
- 1:23It's not a good podcast etiquette, so.
- 1:27It just so happens that it's
- 1:28like the exact time that
- 1:30Lex's family eats dinner
- 1:31all the time on Sundays.
- 1:32So I tried to get a little
- 1:35bit earlier today,
- 1:36but a couple minutes late.
- 1:39Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:40So I know this week is Masters Week.
- 1:43We're going to get into all that.
- 1:45It's also Teen Week.
- 1:46I don't want to forget them either.
- 1:49We're getting into that in a minute.
- 1:52What's that?
- 1:52It's Age Group Week.
- 1:54It is Age Group Week.
- 1:55Yeah.
- 1:57I have a hard time switching over to that.
- 1:59I'm old.
- 2:00Yeah.
- 2:04Before we get started,
- 2:04don't forget to like and
- 2:05subscribe to the channel.
- 2:07If you're not a member,
- 2:09I put out just a deleted
- 2:11scenes thing from the
- 2:12documentary that is going
- 2:14to start coming out on
- 2:15Tuesday on Hattie Canyon at the games.
- 2:20They are not intended to be
- 2:23anything more than an uncut
- 2:24deleted scene.
- 2:26Um, so you're not,
- 2:28you're not going to get all
- 2:28the flash and the glam of everything,
- 2:31but it,
- 2:33what I'm going to do is release
- 2:34pieces that are interesting,
- 2:37but not part of this year's story.
- 2:40Um,
- 2:41and so I just felt like I had it and
- 2:45why throw it on the floor
- 2:46and never use it.
- 2:48Why not throw it out to the
- 2:49members so they can at
- 2:50least see a little taste of it.
- 2:52And, uh,
- 2:55And this,
- 2:55the cut I put out yesterday was
- 2:58about going into the final
- 3:00event at the twenty twenty
- 3:02four West Coast Classic and
- 3:05basically shitting the bed
- 3:07and finishing in a tie for third,
- 3:09but losing the tiebreaker
- 3:12and going from first to off the podium.
- 3:15And what did they learn from
- 3:16that experience?
- 3:18I enjoyed it.
- 3:21Yeah.
- 3:21So it's fun,
- 3:22but it gives you an idea of
- 3:23kind of the format of what
- 3:25you're going to see in this documentary.
- 3:28Like, so anyway, um,
- 3:34I've already missed a bunch of.
- 3:36Yeah.
- 3:38Crash golfers weekend.
- 3:39I was thinking that Carolyn,
- 3:41were you considering doing
- 3:43that at all this weekend?
- 3:45Uh, no.
- 3:47I consider it when Jay put that out,
- 3:49which I know he's like,
- 3:51I think he's requiring
- 3:52masters to do the qualifier.
- 3:54Now I was thinking that's
- 3:56like a terrible weekend.
- 3:57Yeah.
- 3:58Once I saw the weekend that it was on,
- 3:59I was like, no, I don't want to,
- 4:01I want to like practice
- 4:02some of the workouts that
- 4:03we have or versions of it before I leave.
- 4:07So yeah, just wasn't a good timing for me.
- 4:10Yeah.
- 4:13Yeah.
- 4:13How can you expect masters
- 4:15to do a qualifier the week
- 4:17of their CrossFit games?
- 4:19Yeah.
- 4:19I don't know.
- 4:21I'm cutting out a few hundred masters.
- 4:24Well, you're cutting out all your games,
- 4:26caliber master.
- 4:27So you're going to end up,
- 4:28you're gonna end up with a
- 4:29water downfield and the way
- 4:30that he programs that with
- 4:32doing the exact same
- 4:33workout as the regular,
- 4:35I honestly don't think
- 4:36you're going to get very
- 4:37many masters who can hang.
- 4:41I don't know.
- 4:42I'd be curious what his
- 4:42thought process is on that.
- 4:43Or maybe he's not doing the
- 4:45Masters this year.
- 4:46Who knows?
- 4:48Yeah, maybe.
- 4:52So a couple things happened
- 4:53to me this weekend.
- 4:56One, I'm fighting a sinus infection.
- 4:58I've been on antibiotics since Friday.
- 5:01I'm feeling better today,
- 5:02but my face is so hot from
- 5:04the antibiotics.
- 5:05I'm just hoping to get through tonight.
- 5:08I'm missing my Bears game right now,
- 5:10but I will do that for you
- 5:11all since it's just the preseason.
- 5:15And then I signed up for Sentinel.
- 5:18Oh.
- 5:20And the one thing that's...
- 5:23blows my mind is how many
- 5:26questions people have about
- 5:27every single workout yeah I
- 5:30might have to shut off the
- 5:31notifier you'll probably
- 5:33want to shut that off it
- 5:34goes off all day every day
- 5:36I cannot believe how many
- 5:38questions like what
- 5:41deadlift grip can I use if
- 5:44it doesn't specify just go
- 5:47come on man yeah it's a chatty bunch
- 5:53Is there a different, um, like, uh,
- 5:56obviously I'm assuming he
- 5:57has like a competitor's one
- 5:58and then is like,
- 6:00are you doing yours at home at the gym?
- 6:02Like, how are you planning to do it?
- 6:04So at home.
- 6:05Okay.
- 6:05But you have most of the
- 6:06equipment that you could do it.
- 6:08I do.
- 6:10So, yeah, we're so Julie and I,
- 6:11Julie's coming back to working out.
- 6:13We're doing it in the garage.
- 6:15We're taking the summer off from the gym,
- 6:17using the money to get a
- 6:19rower and a couple other
- 6:20pieces of equipment.
- 6:21And then I'm going to go
- 6:22back to a gym in the fall.
- 6:26Once the weather turns and I
- 6:27can't really use my garage anymore.
- 6:32but I'm not sure which gym
- 6:33I'm going back to.
- 6:34I may go back to Chalk Dust
- 6:36where Rudy Berger works out
- 6:38because it's an older clientele.
- 6:41Polaris in the evening is
- 6:43younger and I just am not
- 6:46making the connection with the community.
- 6:48So I may,
- 6:49Rudy Berger's is just maybe two
- 6:51minutes further the other
- 6:52direction and may just go
- 6:54to that one because it's an
- 6:55older evening crowd that I
- 6:58would fit in with much better.
- 7:02I like that.
- 7:03So, so yeah.
- 7:08Any, I have one more thing.
- 7:10I watched the documentary on
- 7:11the biggest loser on Netflix.
- 7:12I haven't seen that.
- 7:13Oh, I watched it yesterday.
- 7:16So many thoughts, so many thoughts.
- 7:19And then some other things
- 7:20happened on other podcasts
- 7:22that I was already going in
- 7:23this direction.
- 7:24Tomorrow's lunchtime show is
- 7:26going to be all about that.
- 7:30alexa and I watched the
- 7:31biggest loser of the three
- 7:32episodes three episodes
- 7:33right yeah yep yesterday
- 7:36like I still remember
- 7:37watching all like all of
- 7:39those seasons and yeah it's
- 7:41crazy what and then this is
- 7:44just a taste what upsets me
- 7:46is when people make
- 7:48assumptions about fat
- 7:49people and what they think
- 7:52and what they what they can and cannot do
- 7:56And I think the documentary
- 7:57illustrated that in a very
- 7:58good way that some of those
- 8:00people were underestimated
- 8:02what they were willing to
- 8:03put their body through and
- 8:05what they were willing to
- 8:06do to try to lose weight.
- 8:09Um, and it goes into like,
- 8:13sometimes I think we're too
- 8:15soft on fat people in the
- 8:17CrossFit community.
- 8:19They don't want a lesser
- 8:21than forging elite fitness.
- 8:25Fat people want elite
- 8:26fitness just as much as anybody else.
- 8:29And that's kind of what I'm
- 8:30going to get into.
- 8:31Interesting.
- 8:38Yeah, there's a lot of stuff in the chat.
- 8:40This one,
- 8:41Jillian never reached out to Bob
- 8:42after his heart attack.
- 8:44That blew me away.
- 8:44That is surprising.
- 8:46Hmm.
- 8:51I watched every episode of
- 8:52The Biggest Loser.
- 8:53Yeah, I think I did too.
- 8:57I wasn't going in with... I
- 9:00thought there were good
- 9:00parts of the documentary and bad parts.
- 9:06We'll talk about both of them.
- 9:11Anyway.
- 9:14Do you ever watch Jillian's
- 9:18podcast that she's got?
- 9:20No.
- 9:22I've caught a few, a few of her episodes.
- 9:27When she started,
- 9:30I'll be honest when I lost
- 9:32interest in her as a trainer,
- 9:34when she got busted with
- 9:35the caffeine pills on the show,
- 9:38that's when I started to like lose.
- 9:40And then when she was being
- 9:41outspoken against CrossFit
- 9:42and all of that stuff,
- 9:43then of course it just kept
- 9:45sliding down my scale of, of things.
- 9:49Um,
- 9:51But after watching this documentary,
- 9:52she probably wasn't the
- 9:53only one throwing caffeine
- 9:54pills at her athletes.
- 9:58But that's just in my mind
- 10:00going back in time.
- 10:01That's what started it for me.
- 10:03And she was the one busted on the show.
- 10:10So, yeah, I actually like Jen Winstrom,
- 10:16the later trainer, much better than her.
- 10:20And he was a black guy.
- 10:26Like the last two trainers they had.
- 10:28I thought they were better.
- 10:31I never had a problem with Bob either.
- 10:33Yeah, I liked Bob.
- 10:37Widerstrom?
- 10:38Yeah, I mispronounced it,
- 10:40but... Denise said,
- 10:43isn't she more conservative now?
- 10:44She... I believe she moved
- 10:47out of California.
- 10:48She...
- 10:50I feel like she's kind of
- 10:52taking the savvy route.
- 10:53Um,
- 10:54just hasn't quite red pilled completely,
- 10:56but I think she started
- 10:59seeing some things that, um,
- 11:04I don't know.
- 11:04She just couldn't,
- 11:05couldn't stay on board with, but no,
- 11:06I would,
- 11:06I would actually say she is not
- 11:08conservative at all.
- 11:14Yeah.
- 11:18I don't really pay attention
- 11:19to her much these days.
- 11:20I would not say she is ultra right now,
- 11:22Jeff.
- 11:24Not at all.
- 11:31Anything going on with you, Carolyn?
- 11:33Just getting ready?
- 11:35Started packing today, or yesterday,
- 11:38which is the earliest that
- 11:38I've packed for a competition,
- 11:40but Lex is like
- 11:41You have to pack, you know, three,
- 11:44four days before we leave.
- 11:45So she packed like, I don't know,
- 11:47Thursday.
- 11:48We don't leave until Tuesday morning.
- 11:51And then I realized I need a
- 11:52new suitcase because I've
- 11:54been here all summer and
- 11:56I've accumulated quite a bit of things.
- 11:58So just bought a suitcase today.
- 12:00So I'm checking in two suitcases now.
- 12:03Yeah.
- 12:06When you get free bags,
- 12:07that's like forty bucks a bag.
- 12:09No, it's going to be expensive.
- 12:13But like I came in here like
- 12:16to California at the
- 12:18beginning of summer with
- 12:19just one like hockey bag
- 12:22and knowing that I might
- 12:23need a second one on the way back.
- 12:26But even when I was at the games,
- 12:27like I said, like my coach, Paul,
- 12:31he was driving and he went
- 12:33home with some of my stuff
- 12:34from the games.
- 12:35So I still can't believe how
- 12:36much I've accumulated just in the,
- 12:39two months that I've been
- 12:40not less than two months
- 12:41but every year I think that
- 12:43I'm not bringing I feel
- 12:45like I thought I had it
- 12:46like good this year because
- 12:47like my fourth or fifth
- 12:48year that I've gone to
- 12:49california in the summer
- 12:50and I was like I think I
- 12:51brought I'm bringing it
- 12:52like just enough like not
- 12:53I'm not overly packing
- 12:57looks like did you forget
- 12:58about this that you have up
- 12:59here this these pairs of
- 13:01shoes this I'm like oh my
- 13:02gosh do any things
- 13:06I wanted to bring you a ring
- 13:07light this week you can
- 13:09have room for that I don't
- 13:13know just you can be front
- 13:17lit in your apartment in
- 13:19toronto yeah my apartment
- 13:21in toronto I need more
- 13:21lighting there no denise we
- 13:25will not be getting that much stuff
- 13:28No,
- 13:28Carolyn has been living here all summer
- 13:30and is going back to
- 13:31Toronto after the games to
- 13:33go back to work.
- 13:35So she's not only packing for Columbus.
- 13:37She's packing to go back to
- 13:40Canada for the winter.
- 13:42Yeah,
- 13:42because I leave the Monday to go back
- 13:43to Toronto.
- 13:45So I have to bring
- 13:46everything that I've
- 13:48traveled with from the summer there,
- 13:50which is a big one.
- 13:52Carolyn,
- 13:53will I be wearing games clothes to
- 13:54flex on the Masters?
- 13:55Yes.
- 13:57There's other masters that
- 13:58are at the games too.
- 14:02Lots of them.
- 14:07Heaviest thing in my
- 14:08suitcase are my lifters.
- 14:13All right, let's get into it.
- 14:16It is the week of the age
- 14:18group CrossFit Games.
- 14:20Gosh,
- 14:20I'm so excited to be here in Columbus.
- 14:22So excited.
- 14:24I cannot tell you guys.
- 14:25I've told you enough, I know.
- 14:26But I get to sleep in my own
- 14:28bed all week and cover this.
- 14:31So,
- 14:33first thing I want to get out is Dana
- 14:35Wadd posted a schedule for
- 14:38of all of the age groups on
- 14:40our instagram you can
- 14:42either go to her instagram
- 14:44or our instagram and pull
- 14:46that up and it is as it
- 14:48stands today from
- 14:49competition corner so if
- 14:52they make any changes we'll
- 14:53try to keep up with that
- 14:57yes kenneth I am jazzed um
- 15:03So that's the first thing.
- 15:05There's a schedule then,
- 15:06and you can look at it.
- 15:07You can see all the
- 15:08different age groups and
- 15:10when their heat times are.
- 15:12It's a little confusing on
- 15:13the first one because
- 15:16they're going five minute
- 15:18intervals or a staggered
- 15:19start on the run.
- 15:21So you're going to see like
- 15:23quick times for a seven K run,
- 15:26but it's really just
- 15:26staggered start times.
- 15:30So I hope everybody understands that.
- 15:33then there were a couple
- 15:34winter there were a couple
- 15:35workouts announced after we
- 15:36got off the air last week
- 15:39and so I'm going to pull
- 15:39those up and I did see
- 15:43something else I wanted to
- 15:44show you guys before we got
- 15:46into this too far and I
- 15:48can't remember what it is
- 15:49and hopefully it's still
- 15:50there oh shoot it's not all
- 15:55right hopefully I can find
- 15:56it in a minute I'll just do this first
- 16:02I don't think we did this one last week.
- 16:05Is that correct?
- 16:05No, we did.
- 16:06I think.
- 16:10I think we did.
- 16:13All right.
- 16:13So that is twenty five three.
- 16:19Twenty five.
- 16:20Yeah, that's the first one on Friday.
- 16:23And then.
- 16:27This one.
- 16:28Twenty five, eight.
- 16:31I think the kettlebell one,
- 16:34maybe it's the rope climb.
- 16:40It should be twenty five three.
- 16:41The one you pulled up,
- 16:42that's when we didn't have.
- 16:46Yeah.
- 16:48OK,
- 16:50so it's an eighteen minute AMRAP of
- 16:52sixty calorie row,
- 16:53fifty kettlebell hang clean,
- 16:55forty total bar,
- 16:56thirty double kettlebell thrusters,
- 16:58twenty kettlebell single leg squats.
- 17:02My first question to you,
- 17:04watching your texts fly, guys,
- 17:07when you're on texturing
- 17:08with these two during a
- 17:10competition two weeks,
- 17:12you'll go into a meeting
- 17:13and you come out and you
- 17:14have seventy-four messages on your phone.
- 17:18It is insane.
- 17:22First question I have is, it says,
- 17:23eighteen minute AMRAP.
- 17:25I believe you two feel
- 17:27there's no way in hell this
- 17:28is going to take eighteen minutes.
- 17:31No, it's an eighteen minute AMRAP.
- 17:33Oh, OK.
- 17:34Yes.
- 17:35Never mind.
- 17:36So it's going to take eighteen minutes.
- 17:38It's the next one.
- 17:39Never mind.
- 17:41All right.
- 17:42So eighteen minute AMRAP
- 17:43thoughts on the workout.
- 17:45It's.
- 17:47It needs to be something
- 17:49that it needs to be
- 17:50programmed in a way that you can expect.
- 17:53At least.
- 17:56At least a third of the
- 17:57field to get two rounds in so that.
- 18:00the gymnastics are relevant.
- 18:03And I don't think I
- 18:06personally don't think that
- 18:07that I don't know.
- 18:08I don't think anyone can get two rounds.
- 18:10I would be floored if
- 18:11somebody gets two rounds of this.
- 18:15definitely needed something
- 18:16that was longer because so
- 18:18far everything was very
- 18:19short um I think this one
- 18:21will come down to just you
- 18:23know managing uh the
- 18:25kettlebells really for the
- 18:26most part for those three
- 18:28movements um just like your
- 18:30breathing and just the the
- 18:32kettlebells um like those
- 18:34fifties like are long to do
- 18:36like it's a long
- 18:39double kettlebell hang cleans.
- 18:41Then you have the thrusters,
- 18:42the single leg squats,
- 18:43which I was surprised to
- 18:44see for the master's age group.
- 18:47Like I knew it was already on the list,
- 18:49but I was still surprised
- 18:50to see that there.
- 18:51And then weighted.
- 18:52That's not something that we
- 18:53see very often in a competition,
- 18:55but if you put it away from your body,
- 18:57it does help counter the
- 18:58balance aspect sometimes
- 19:00that people could struggle with.
- 19:02So it'd be interesting to see for that.
- 19:05Yeah, I mean,
- 19:06this one I think comes down a
- 19:07lot to just your sets and
- 19:10continuing to move.
- 19:14The double kettlebell cleans
- 19:15I think will get iffy on
- 19:16some standards and as well
- 19:18as the thrusters,
- 19:20like how some people will
- 19:21go like up to here versus
- 19:23all the way down.
- 19:24The kettlebell cleans is going to be,
- 19:26I think, like, is it going to be here?
- 19:28Your elbows are a little bit in front.
- 19:30Does it have to be up here?
- 19:32Like that range of motion I
- 19:34think is a very...
- 19:38risky movement to put in a
- 19:40in a workout um for people
- 19:45moving there but like doing
- 19:47those those movements I
- 19:48think it's going to be
- 19:50interesting um thoughts on
- 19:53cool's comment punish those
- 19:56people that are fit yeah I
- 19:59mean sure you're gonna get
- 20:04more work done but
- 20:09don't I don't I don't I wish
- 20:11the toaster bars were the
- 20:12fifty yeah so that there's
- 20:14more toaster bars so that
- 20:16once you get in the second
- 20:17round um for those that are
- 20:20like in the second rounds
- 20:21like you go back to the
- 20:21toaster bars and you got to
- 20:23do fifty toaster bars again um
- 20:28Yeah.
- 20:28Yeah.
- 20:29I think we're missing it.
- 20:30We're missing right now.
- 20:31Workout.
- 20:31That's like really gymnastics dependent,
- 20:33right?
- 20:33Like you have a long distance run,
- 20:34you have the max lift, you have,
- 20:36I'm going to call it
- 20:37essentially just a three
- 20:37minute AMRAP on the sled.
- 20:39Cause I think the deadlift
- 20:40is completely irrelevant in that workout.
- 20:42So you have a three minute sled push.
- 20:44You have no workout that's
- 20:45high skill gymnastics dependent.
- 20:48And like, this is not even high skill,
- 20:49but like there's just,
- 20:51there's no gymnastics.
- 20:52That's very separator.
- 20:54Um,
- 20:55up before the cut.
- 20:57I thought it was going to be
- 20:59a little bit more gymnastics,
- 21:00but it's going to be just capacity.
- 21:01If you're fit,
- 21:01you're going to do well in this.
- 21:05It is a lot about the kettlebells here.
- 21:10I think this one's going to
- 21:11be highly judge-dependent.
- 21:14I've said that before.
- 21:14I do not like when workouts
- 21:16are judge-dependent.
- 21:21I think kettlebells
- 21:25are tricky to judge so like
- 21:28you want them to get them
- 21:29up and elbows through but
- 21:32you also don't want people
- 21:33taking the kettlebells and
- 21:34like setting them on their
- 21:35shoulder that like if
- 21:37they're just sitting on
- 21:38your shoulder especially
- 21:39when you get to the
- 21:39thrusters if somebody sets
- 21:40that the bell on their
- 21:42shoulder and is just doing
- 21:44thrusters from here and
- 21:47it's they're never in the front rack
- 21:49It's a completely different movement.
- 21:52So I think, I mean, I'm just very curious.
- 21:54I've already seen chatter in
- 21:56there regarding even like the pistol.
- 21:58Like,
- 21:59can you hold it in the front rack to
- 22:00do the pistol?
- 22:01To me,
- 22:02the front rack is the front of your body.
- 22:04Like, no, it shouldn't be on your shoulder,
- 22:06but the kettlebell
- 22:07shouldn't be on your
- 22:08shoulder in any part of this movement.
- 22:11And I think it's going to
- 22:12get really tricky on those
- 22:13hang cleans where people
- 22:15are just like either
- 22:16throwing them up there.
- 22:17So they're out here,
- 22:18your elbows are like side
- 22:20outside and you're just
- 22:21throwing them up here and
- 22:23getting away with short
- 22:24range of motion or,
- 22:26and just like that strain
- 22:28on the front of your, from holding,
- 22:29like if you were to take
- 22:31two kettlebells and touch
- 22:33the handles together and
- 22:34keep them in a true front
- 22:35rack in front and walk with them.
- 22:38I mean, we do that in our gym and like,
- 22:40people just they can't even
- 22:41do it they can't even like
- 22:41fifty feet like they have
- 22:43they inevitably throw them
- 22:45back on their shoulders and
- 22:46get them back out of the
- 22:46way um so I just I don't
- 22:50know I think this one was
- 22:52not the smartest choice for
- 22:54an eighteen minute workout
- 22:56personally uh patrick clark
- 23:01said con tested this and he
- 23:04said the double kettlebell
- 23:05kettlebell felt uncomfortable
- 23:08yeah I like what I'm like
- 23:10what I was saying about
- 23:11where you should put the
- 23:12kettlebells like my
- 23:14shoulders are com like
- 23:15right in front here this is
- 23:16like bruised on me yeah
- 23:18extremely bruised it's my
- 23:21like um just past like this
- 23:23part right here yeah still
- 23:25feels bruised but it's just
- 23:26so many of them like the
- 23:27fifty like it's we like I
- 23:29test it without using my
- 23:30grips apparently now we can
- 23:31possibly use our grips for them um
- 23:34But there's just like,
- 23:35it's a long movement, right?
- 23:37Like you're just holding on.
- 23:40And it's just like basically
- 23:41smashing your shoulders like every time.
- 23:43But again,
- 23:44where is that position is going
- 23:46to be interesting on what
- 23:49the judge will allow because, you know,
- 23:52you cut a corner here and
- 23:53there for fifty reps.
- 23:54That's a lot of time,
- 23:55especially in an AMRAP and
- 23:56where you can where you can finish.
- 23:59So I still think
- 24:04fitness will prevail like
- 24:06for the most part but it is
- 24:08um yeah strength dependent
- 24:11once again I mean I was
- 24:13looking yeah I don't think
- 24:14those toaster bars are um
- 24:17they're completely limiting
- 24:18factor at at this level for
- 24:20most most of the top people
- 24:22competing for for a spot
- 24:25like on the podium yeah and
- 24:27what's your best movement
- 24:29total bar it's completely
- 24:31irrelevant in this workout like
- 24:35Honestly,
- 24:35I think people are going to get
- 24:36hung up on the kettlebell squats,
- 24:40depending on how strict
- 24:41they are on the judging there.
- 24:44It says your foot has to
- 24:45remain out front until
- 24:47you've fully extended.
- 24:50You know,
- 24:50people always set their foot down early.
- 24:52I mean,
- 24:52especially when they're fatigued
- 24:54and standing up with weight
- 24:55in front of them,
- 24:56like you're going to get wobbly.
- 24:57So we'll see how that goes.
- 25:00And they have four floors.
- 25:01That means the depth of the
- 25:03judges they have to bring in.
- 25:05Jeez.
- 25:08Yeah.
- 25:09Yeah.
- 25:10I mean, that's.
- 25:11Forty judges on, on at the same time.
- 25:16If you're running all four
- 25:17floors at the same time.
- 25:19I mean,
- 25:21I think back to like the hundreds
- 25:27workout Jr programmed.
- 25:29And it was two twenty sixes.
- 25:31I don't know where they
- 25:32think programming to thirty
- 25:34fives for this workout is like once again,
- 25:36this is a strength based workout.
- 25:38We there just isn't a long
- 25:40workout that is has
- 25:43anywhere that the gymnasts can prevail.
- 25:45Like I can't even catch up
- 25:47in those forty toes of our.
- 25:55Yeah,
- 25:55I was surprised to see the weight for
- 25:57the pistols and some of the
- 25:58age groups that have to do.
- 26:00And I'm like, ooh,
- 26:01some of these older age
- 26:03group that still have a
- 26:04pretty weighted pistol,
- 26:06that's going to be challenging.
- 26:11Yeah.
- 26:16I've never done a weighted
- 26:17pistol in my own competitions.
- 26:18In my own individual.
- 26:20At the games.
- 26:21I saw it for the Masters and I was like,
- 26:24damn.
- 26:24It is wild.
- 26:25We haven't even done pistols, I think,
- 26:27since like, I love pistols.
- 26:30I love pistols too,
- 26:31but this could have easily been...
- 26:34Yeah.
- 26:36I thought lunges were going
- 26:38to be there for like at
- 26:39least some of the older
- 26:40masters division instead of the pistols.
- 26:44And then when I saw that
- 26:45they still had waited, I was like,
- 26:49Like it's almost like even
- 26:51the double under handstand pushup one,
- 26:53right?
- 26:53We've seen a lot of people
- 26:54in some of the group chats
- 26:57that we're in for the masters,
- 26:58especially the later
- 26:59divisions in the seventy plus sixty five.
- 27:01A lot of them don't even
- 27:02have handstand pushups.
- 27:04So they weren't tested in the open.
- 27:06They weren't tested in the semis.
- 27:07And then you begin to work
- 27:08out with the handstand
- 27:08pushups in a two to two to format.
- 27:12And a lot of them will get zero,
- 27:14won't even get to the double unders.
- 27:15What's going to be the score?
- 27:16What's the tiebreaker?
- 27:19if you want it like it could
- 27:22have reversed that where
- 27:22it's like a buy-in of
- 27:23double unders echo bike and
- 27:24then maybe finish with the
- 27:25handstand push-ups and as
- 27:27you know the better gymnast
- 27:29will get more or something
- 27:31like that um that's like
- 27:33that one is interesting too
- 27:35to start with that movement
- 27:36because a lot of people in
- 27:37the signal group that we're
- 27:39in are like a little bit
- 27:40concerned with that
- 27:41handstand push-up to begin with um
- 27:45Justin Kotler weighs in just
- 27:46joining the conversation.
- 27:48Not sure if you've covered this pistols,
- 27:50let alone weighted pistols
- 27:51for age for fifty plus age
- 27:53divisions is inappropriate at best,
- 27:56irresponsible at worst.
- 27:58Could completely agree.
- 27:59Yep.
- 28:08uh get with the programming
- 28:10or having bob I believe on
- 28:11tomorrow talking about the
- 28:13workouts oh boy that should
- 28:15be interesting that will be
- 28:16very interesting it could
- 28:17have been like this could
- 28:18have been a good workout
- 28:19sixty cal row like fifty
- 28:20toes to bars forty I don't
- 28:22know wall balls or the
- 28:24double kettlebell thrusters
- 28:26something else like but
- 28:29yeah it's very dependent on
- 28:30the kettlebell once they
- 28:31get on the weight the
- 28:33single leg squats for a lot
- 28:34of the masters is just too
- 28:35over programmed
- 28:38And I think it's almost too
- 28:40much hang clean.
- 28:41That's not a fun movement to
- 28:42watch as well.
- 28:43You're just swinging a kettlebell,
- 28:44swinging a kettlebell for fifty reps.
- 28:46It's boring to watch.
- 28:48And it's like, I don't know,
- 28:50I think there would be a
- 28:51better movement to get your
- 28:52grip before the toes to
- 28:53bars that you could put in there.
- 28:57Barry McOchner,
- 28:58who programmed these events.
- 28:59Bob Jennings is the primary
- 29:01programmer for Legends,
- 29:03and Joe Linton is his
- 29:05assistant event coordinator
- 29:07who weighs in on these.
- 29:09But Bob Jennings is the
- 29:10primary programmer for Legends.
- 29:16I mean,
- 29:16they supposedly partnered with Pitt,
- 29:18so I think Brock had some
- 29:21say in some of these workouts.
- 29:23I don't know.
- 29:26From the little bit I've talked to the pit,
- 29:29which isn't a whole lot,
- 29:31but just last week, it didn't,
- 29:33it sounded like they
- 29:34separated some duties.
- 29:38So we'll see.
- 29:39I wonder if they only were able to,
- 29:41they only let pit do like program,
- 29:44the college stuff,
- 29:45which I've seen some of
- 29:45those workouts populated.
- 29:48Yeah.
- 29:49Let's go to the final finale.
- 29:54And then
- 29:55Workout twenty five point eight.
- 29:58This one is four rounds for time,
- 30:01two rope climbs, six wall walks,
- 30:03four snatches.
- 30:09Well,
- 30:09if you've paid attention to any of
- 30:11their programming,
- 30:12you should already know
- 30:13this is not going to be a light snatch.
- 30:16Because that's just the way Bob programs.
- 30:20We're not going for intensity.
- 30:21This game's we're going for heavy.
- 30:26bob likes heavy yeah they
- 30:28put a fourteen minute time
- 30:29gap on this this is nowhere
- 30:30near fourteen minutes I
- 30:31think it's much faster much
- 30:33much faster especially for
- 30:34like um the younger age
- 30:37groups the thirty five
- 30:40division um I think it's
- 30:43more about the speed of the
- 30:44wall walks for me than and
- 30:47just like your cycle I
- 30:50guess of the snatches like
- 30:51your rest there the two
- 30:53rope climbs for the men especially like
- 30:56again there's no difference
- 30:57between the men and the
- 30:58women for like the ring
- 30:59muscle ups this one like I
- 31:01think the guys could have
- 31:02three here easily um I'm
- 31:04just curious how the
- 31:05scoring is gonna be because
- 31:06you cut half the field and
- 31:09then is this workout gonna
- 31:10be word worth two times the
- 31:12points no or is fifteenth
- 31:13place gonna be the
- 31:15fifteenth place of before
- 31:16and all of a sudden this
- 31:16workout is worth half the
- 31:18points which is then it's
- 31:19like why do you cut the
- 31:20field if this workout is
- 31:21now worth half the points
- 31:23So I've never been a fan of
- 31:26cuts in a competition at all,
- 31:30just because it changes the
- 31:31scoring and the value of the workout.
- 31:35Fifteenth place gets
- 31:37fifteenth place as if they
- 31:38would have been fifteenth
- 31:39place the day before.
- 31:40That's how it was last year.
- 31:40It was dumb.
- 31:45I feel like they just read
- 31:46in Justin's comment that
- 31:48his fifty plus female
- 31:49tested it and it was sub nine.
- 31:51I think they put fourteen
- 31:52minutes on it because one,
- 31:53they didn't test it or two.
- 31:55Everyone has been
- 31:56complaining how fast the
- 31:57times are for all the workouts.
- 31:58And they're like,
- 31:59let's pretend this is a
- 32:00fourteen minute time cap to
- 32:01make it look like a moderate time cap.
- 32:03Well,
- 32:03because they have half the field they
- 32:04have in one workout.
- 32:06They have half the field
- 32:06competing in one workout
- 32:08for the entire day.
- 32:10I don't get cutting the
- 32:11field for one workout.
- 32:13Yeah.
- 32:15The only way it makes sense
- 32:17is like if you go back to
- 32:18when the games did all of their cuts,
- 32:20like after every event,
- 32:21they changed the scoring
- 32:23card for after every event.
- 32:26And then instead of like
- 32:27three points between first and second,
- 32:29it became six points behind
- 32:31first and second.
- 32:33Right.
- 32:33And so the points in its
- 32:35essence doubled up.
- 32:37Does that make sense?
- 32:38Mm hmm.
- 32:40Yeah.
- 32:41so but if they're not doing
- 32:44that then it really does
- 32:46minimize what this workout
- 32:48means at the end of a war
- 32:49of a competition because of
- 32:53the worst you can finish in
- 32:56the biggest divisions is
- 32:57yes yeah that's why last
- 32:59year I was angry that the
- 33:02front squat was like that
- 33:03was the last workout on
- 33:04saturday and I got last
- 33:06there but if that would
- 33:07have been on sunday morning
- 33:09I would have gotten fifth
- 33:13right which is why I don't
- 33:16like cuts um like I want
- 33:19people to play a role in in
- 33:21all of the workouts and
- 33:24then you get that you get
- 33:25an actual representation of
- 33:26the leaderboard like you've
- 33:27already like for most of
- 33:29the ath like for half the
- 33:30field they only get seven
- 33:31events like that's not a
- 33:34lot and reclaim like it's
- 33:36the test of fittest on
- 33:37earth eight events um
- 33:41for the ones that will make it through.
- 33:44But even that I think is not
- 33:45that much like you went
- 33:46from ten last year to eight.
- 33:47Yep.
- 33:49That's, that's huge.
- 33:51Especially when you have all
- 33:52of these single modality workouts,
- 33:54and you only have eight scores.
- 33:57I fully expected the final
- 33:58to be a two part workout,
- 33:59just because we have the time,
- 34:00like throw something else in there.
- 34:04Cuts for finals is some
- 34:06local throwdown shoes.
- 34:08Oh, Patrick Clark.
- 34:10Oh, boy.
- 34:11It was not cheap.
- 34:13Well, plus fees.
- 34:15So I think it was for.
- 34:19For Canadians,
- 34:20it's like five hundred something.
- 34:27I just think eight scored
- 34:28events is not that much
- 34:30like for like on some of
- 34:31these workouts that are like,
- 34:33like I said.
- 34:36I think three out of the
- 34:37eight to me are single modalities.
- 34:39I'm going to call the sled a
- 34:40single modality.
- 34:41Just a three minute slide push.
- 34:44So.
- 34:49Yeah.
- 34:49Lito just says when you look
- 34:50at comp corner,
- 34:51it goes all the way to thirtieth.
- 34:53So assuming it's going to be the same.
- 34:56I just I don't think they
- 34:57have that in properly yet.
- 35:01I mean,
- 35:01they'll probably just leave the
- 35:02thirty there anyway and
- 35:04still like put the top fifteen scores in.
- 35:06Um.
- 35:11Larry Young,
- 35:11I like how no matter what comes out,
- 35:13Grubb seems to love it.
- 35:16That is a slippery slope,
- 35:18as has been said on this show lately.
- 35:21And probably an area I don't
- 35:23want to dive into tonight.
- 35:25Because I am in a mood.
- 35:30Ken, I did sell shirts.
- 35:32It was on my Instagram.
- 35:35I actually might have an extra one.
- 35:37So.
- 35:38You can, if you go onto my Instagram,
- 35:40you can see them and message me.
- 35:44All right.
- 35:49Well, then we have,
- 35:50I was going to do a quick
- 35:51tour of Columbus for those
- 35:53of you coming just a super quick tour.
- 35:56Um, and basically at the convention center,
- 35:59you you're, when you're in the venue,
- 36:02you can really only get out
- 36:04the West facing doors, right?
- 36:08So when you come out the west-facing doors,
- 36:10you can either go north up
- 36:11the street to the right,
- 36:13you can go to downtown to the left,
- 36:16or you can go to what is
- 36:17called the North Market straight ahead.
- 36:20You have to do like a little
- 36:21shimmy shake to get across
- 36:23the street and down the alley,
- 36:24but it's a shimmy shake.
- 36:26So first is the short north.
- 36:28It is like the foodie section of Columbus.
- 36:31It is just out the door to the right,
- 36:34and you go up there,
- 36:36and I'm going to share –
- 36:40Sure.
- 36:40Here we go.
- 36:41I'm going to share, uh, a website.
- 36:46Nope.
- 36:51Here we go.
- 36:52Um, this is from there,
- 36:54the short north.org and
- 36:57their dinner menu.
- 36:58These are some of the
- 37:00restaurants available,
- 37:01and this is really foodie
- 37:03foodie type stuff.
- 37:07so all these different places,
- 37:10it is a lot.
- 37:11Bodega is really good.
- 37:13Um, but dairy, like these food halls,
- 37:17they're like, um,
- 37:19food trucks got together
- 37:20and that one broken brick and mortar.
- 37:22So inside are like five restaurants,
- 37:25but they're all like famous food trucks,
- 37:28uh, from around town.
- 37:29It kind of came together.
- 37:32Uh,
- 37:35Hyde Park is one of the best
- 37:37steak houses in the state.
- 37:41We were looking at that.
- 37:45I was considering that.
- 37:45Martini is one of the,
- 37:49it's an Italian restaurant.
- 37:52There's a famous chef, Cameron Mitchell,
- 37:55who has a ton of
- 37:56restaurants here in Columbus.
- 37:57This is his Italian restaurant.
- 37:59It's very good.
- 38:02North star has great healthy options.
- 38:06Um, and it's really good.
- 38:09It'll probably be packed for this event.
- 38:11Uh, Ruth, Chris,
- 38:12I am going there on Wednesday,
- 38:16North short, short North food hall.
- 38:19Another one of those like
- 38:20brick and mortars with a
- 38:21bunch of options.
- 38:25The Eagle is one of my favorites.
- 38:28Lots of homemade, everything handmade,
- 38:32even like the ketchups and the sauces.
- 38:35So good.
- 38:38But just as you can see,
- 38:40tons of options in the short North.
- 38:44It is the go-to spot for
- 38:48like date nights in Columbus.
- 38:50Very foodie, very entertaining area.
- 38:55Then if you go across the
- 38:56street to the North Market,
- 39:02I'm having trouble here.
- 39:05Is this it?
- 39:07No.
- 39:14Come on.
- 39:15Where are we at here?
- 39:17I think this is it.
- 39:21No.
- 39:21So instead of going across the street,
- 39:23we're going to go to two of
- 39:25my favorite hole in the wall places.
- 39:26Diamonds in the Rough.
- 39:28These are downtown.
- 39:29This is the Tip Top Kitchen.
- 39:31The Tip Top Kitchen is the
- 39:33address is right there.
- 39:35You can go
- 39:35tiptopcolumbus.com and it is a
- 39:38hole in the wall that used
- 39:40to be a carriage repair
- 39:42shop back in the day in Columbus.
- 39:46Um, when the horses,
- 39:47the carriage would break
- 39:48down is where you take it to get it fixed,
- 39:50but they have a pot roast
- 39:51sandwich that is to die for.
- 39:54It is freaking amazing.
- 39:55It is a hole in the wall.
- 39:57You'd probably need a five
- 39:59minute Uber to get there,
- 40:00but super fun place to go.
- 40:03Um,
- 40:05And he and I have that they
- 40:06have the menu on that website.
- 40:09And then another hole in the
- 40:12wall that is super fun
- 40:15downtown is this one.
- 40:20It is ringside cafe.
- 40:21It's in an alleyway downtown
- 40:24right by the state office buildings.
- 40:27And they have they are known
- 40:28for their burgers.
- 40:29And all of their burgers are
- 40:30named after famous boxers.
- 40:33so like the smoke and joe
- 40:34oscar de la joya the duran
- 40:37the jack dempsey the ali
- 40:40and of course columbus's
- 40:41own buster douglas and his
- 40:45thirty two dollar burger uh
- 40:47because it has everything
- 40:48and the kitchen sink on it
- 40:52but it is it has been
- 40:53around since and it is a
- 40:56very fun place to go
- 41:01then the short north which
- 41:02one is that now shoot I may
- 41:04have lost it nope there it
- 41:08is um here it is the north
- 41:18market it is like uh like
- 41:20the pikes fish market in
- 41:23seattle but smaller
- 41:31Oh boy.
- 41:36Okay.
- 41:37So these are all restaurants
- 41:39and stuff in there.
- 41:42And as you can see, there's pretzel shops,
- 41:43donut shops, bubble teas, oyster bars,
- 41:47burger bars,
- 41:48but it is a big open area
- 41:50where you walk around and
- 41:52just stop at whatever you
- 41:53want and grab the food you
- 41:56want from there.
- 41:56And then our tables upstairs.
- 42:00But it has crepes, Nashville hot chicken,
- 42:05Hoya's Kitchen, Polish, Jenny's Ice Cream,
- 42:09which is fantastic.
- 42:10Oh,
- 42:10that's the place you guys were talking
- 42:11about?
- 42:12Yes.
- 42:12Okay.
- 42:15Faux, Littleton's Bakery.
- 42:19It's got everything.
- 42:20And that's like just a block away,
- 42:23straight out the door and
- 42:25across the street, so.
- 42:29super fun and I think I saw
- 42:31someone ask about
- 42:33supermarkets yes there are
- 42:35uh there's a supermarket
- 42:37north from the venue
- 42:39there's a kroger in the
- 42:41short north area that is a
- 42:43downtown version of the um
- 42:48of like the big kroger okay
- 42:52pretty close is there like
- 42:55a whole foods or
- 42:59um I don't think there's a
- 43:01whole foods downtown okay
- 43:03the closest is easton um
- 43:07which you're gonna be
- 43:09driving right like you
- 43:10could drive there yeah if
- 43:15you're driving it's not that far
- 43:19So anyway, so that's a quick tour.
- 43:21Just that's right around the venue.
- 43:23There are places like I just
- 43:24mentioned Easton.
- 43:25If you have a car,
- 43:26Easton is a big outdoor shopping center,
- 43:29like be like massive
- 43:31outdoor shopping center.
- 43:32It's got everything, everything,
- 43:35whole foods, Costco, all the,
- 43:38all of this stuff.
- 43:47Um,
- 43:48And I missed all the comments,
- 43:49so I don't know.
- 43:50I think Chris was asking
- 43:52about my favorite pizza or something.
- 43:54Yes,
- 43:55he did ask what your favorite pizza
- 43:56was or pizza place.
- 43:59My favorite pizza place is
- 44:00actually up north called Borgata.
- 44:06It's like New York style,
- 44:08hand-tossed and then fire
- 44:12oven cooked pizza.
- 44:15It's very, very good.
- 44:18That's my favorite.
- 44:22So anyway,
- 44:23I just thought I'd run through
- 44:24that since I live here and
- 44:25I could help out a little bit.
- 44:30What is the next thing on the topic?
- 44:33Um, well,
- 44:35first let's do this broadcast thing.
- 44:36Okay.
- 44:38So CrossFit has come out
- 44:40with these new campaigns with, um,
- 44:47you know, F the quick fix.
- 44:50Right.
- 44:50CrossFit is secure.
- 44:52Yep.
- 44:52All that kind of stuff.
- 44:54Um, the ads,
- 44:55the people in the videos are
- 44:57average Joes of all ages, um, all sizes,
- 45:01all shapes.
- 45:03Jamie, I think that you put,
- 45:05this looks like your,
- 45:07your venom in writing.
- 45:09So, um,
- 45:14you have all this going on
- 45:15with CrossFit leaning into
- 45:16these new campaigns.
- 45:18And then you have all of
- 45:19these amazing masters
- 45:21athletes who are the
- 45:23prototype of the people who
- 45:26are staying fit into their seventies.
- 45:29And yet you can't even watch the,
- 45:33the masters or teen
- 45:35CrossFit games on the
- 45:37CrossFit games channel.
- 45:39on YouTube.
- 45:40Yeah, you have to go to the pit.
- 45:42We have to go to legends.
- 45:43It's pit media,
- 45:45I think is where it'll be
- 45:50on and they don't even have
- 45:51I think the links for it.
- 45:52No yet.
- 45:55And I'll let Jamie spew now.
- 45:57I mean,
- 45:57it's just wild to me like what the
- 45:59numbers were pretty darn
- 46:01good for the games, right?
- 46:03I mean, like the YouTube views were great.
- 46:06I don't know if they were
- 46:06able to take the DAZN
- 46:08impressions and how they did all that,
- 46:09but there was tons of views
- 46:13on for the indie games.
- 46:16Now, are we going to match that?
- 46:19No, certainly not.
- 46:20I'm not saying we are,
- 46:21but I can tell you what's
- 46:22going to hurt the views even more,
- 46:24putting it on a different platform.
- 46:26People have been asking me
- 46:28for the last week, maybe two,
- 46:31So and they're like,
- 46:32so I just go to the
- 46:33CrossFit Games to watch that.
- 46:34Right.
- 46:35And I'm like, no, we're actually on.
- 46:37It's like legends.
- 46:39And then I have to explain it.
- 46:40And then we're not really
- 46:42the CrossFit Games now anymore.
- 46:44Like it's so devalues this
- 46:47and hurts CrossFit.
- 46:49momentum that they have going with this,
- 46:51like roll with those views
- 46:53that you just had for indie
- 46:55and keep the views coming in.
- 46:57Like this,
- 46:57this is how you build a new base
- 46:59and bring in new,
- 47:00new viewers and new people into CrossFit.
- 47:04Like they've been posting
- 47:05like the countdown now with the, uh,
- 47:08to the age group and post a
- 47:09few things about the
- 47:10teenagers and age group in general.
- 47:13Um, but yeah,
- 47:14it's confusing to people to
- 47:15go to another platform.
- 47:17and like I don't think all
- 47:19the workouts are going to
- 47:20be broadcasted because
- 47:20there's so many different
- 47:21floors so I'm also I
- 47:23remember last like you'll
- 47:24have to know also like
- 47:25which floor um like certain
- 47:28divisions are are at but um
- 47:32yeah it would be nice for
- 47:33it to be on the like on the
- 47:35regular CrossFit Games
- 47:36YouTube channel for them to
- 47:39just put it there it's just easy to
- 47:42had everything there.
- 47:42And then the competition
- 47:44corner is where our scores
- 47:45are going to be.
- 47:45And eventually it'll get transferred over,
- 47:47I think, to the game site.
- 47:49Which is,
- 47:51that is new because we have not
- 47:53been on the CrossFit Games.
- 47:56Like if you try to go to
- 47:56CrossFit Games and search
- 47:58age group leaderboard from last year,
- 48:00we don't have one.
- 48:01It is there now?
- 48:02It is there.
- 48:05It wasn't there when I looked.
- 48:06I don't know.
- 48:06Maybe I haven't looked.
- 48:08If you set it by by twenty twenty four.
- 48:11It like changes it that you
- 48:12can put age group and then
- 48:16you can look at the results.
- 48:19CrossFit says, I hate that every year.
- 48:21Is this a CrossFit or
- 48:22Legends wanting their channel call?
- 48:26So I consider that too.
- 48:28And like, yes,
- 48:30I can see where there may be.
- 48:33little bit of an issue there
- 48:34but even if even if legends
- 48:37is like hey you're making
- 48:38us take this on you're
- 48:40making us pay and we want
- 48:41to build our channel and
- 48:43like I think that's I just
- 48:48think that's foolhardy out
- 48:49of legends if that's the
- 48:50case like they're like
- 48:51we're taking it so we're
- 48:52taking it like I think HQ
- 48:54needs to be like but this
- 48:56is the games and we're
- 48:57still broadcasting the games and
- 49:00The other issue I can see is,
- 49:01like Carolyn said, there's four floors.
- 49:03There's probably going to
- 49:03be... Pit is going to
- 49:06probably only display the
- 49:07floors that are teens,
- 49:09and so people can go to
- 49:11that channel to watch teens,
- 49:12and people can go to
- 49:13Legends to watch Legends.
- 49:16But...
- 49:18It's just, I mean, it's confusing.
- 49:19There's too many.
- 49:21It is.
- 49:21It's too many things.
- 49:22And then, and then like during the games,
- 49:24you have this team division
- 49:26stuff going on as well.
- 49:28Like the college division,
- 49:30which like do that another time.
- 49:32Like, I understand that,
- 49:33that they have to make money and stuff,
- 49:35but like do it on another event,
- 49:38like another,
- 49:39like that floor is only for
- 49:40the college and you guys
- 49:41have your own broadcast
- 49:43there the whole time.
- 49:44Like, I just feel like there's too much,
- 49:46too much going on.
- 49:47Like you're,
- 49:47Let's just have the age
- 49:48group CrossFit games,
- 49:50keep it more focused and
- 49:52promote it with the games
- 49:54YouTube channel.
- 49:56Patrick Clark blows my mind.
- 49:57Why wouldn't CrossFit host
- 49:58their own stream?
- 50:00It's not like they have
- 50:00anything else showing.
- 50:02Why not use their huge
- 50:03subscriber base to help
- 50:04their own product?
- 50:08I mean, quite honestly.
- 50:10were an afterthought for
- 50:12them and like I know
- 50:13somebody asked dave in the
- 50:16week in review like a week
- 50:17ago and said like something
- 50:20about about like show
- 50:23bringing up the masters and
- 50:24stuff and advertising that
- 50:26stuff and he said he
- 50:28admitted that they were
- 50:29like behind on that and
- 50:31they finally were stepping up and
- 50:33I was one of the people
- 50:34early on that commented in our stream.
- 50:37And I think Jason Grubb,
- 50:38they had like a council
- 50:39meeting that they went and
- 50:40brought it up because the
- 50:42first two workouts were
- 50:44released on Legends website.
- 50:48And it made no sense to me.
- 50:49I'm like...
- 50:51There was a because of the
- 50:52sponsorships and the
- 50:53contracts of the sponsorships,
- 50:55like the first workout is
- 50:57is sponsored by I don't
- 50:59know what company it is,
- 51:00but it goes into conflict
- 51:02with a current sponsor of
- 51:03the CrossFit Games.
- 51:04I think that they have like
- 51:06their contract date is a certain amount.
- 51:07So then it could only go on
- 51:08the Legends website and not
- 51:10yet on the like CrossFit
- 51:12couldn't share it to their
- 51:13platform until it was another.
- 51:15Yeah.
- 51:16So like why release that one first?
- 51:18yeah release like point
- 51:20three or one yeah doesn't
- 51:21seem like a complicated uh
- 51:23math problem here yeah show
- 51:26another one of the
- 51:27conflicts gone and then
- 51:28release it oh geez um so
- 51:34met legends youtube we
- 51:36think it's on both legends
- 51:37and pit yes and I did see
- 51:39someone say who's
- 51:40commentary the commentary
- 51:42it is sean tommy chase and joel gadet
- 52:01It costs them zero dollars
- 52:02or man hours to host a stream.
- 52:04All you need is a link.
- 52:05That's it.
- 52:06Yeah.
- 52:11I don't know why they don't just share it.
- 52:12Exactly.
- 52:13Like John George says.
- 52:14Exactly.
- 52:15They tell legends we're
- 52:16streaming and you're
- 52:17welcome to stream as well.
- 52:19Yep.
- 52:21And it's really confusing,
- 52:22even from a spectator point of view,
- 52:24when you're going to look
- 52:25for stuff to talk about,
- 52:27like when I'm doing research and stuff,
- 52:29is it on the legend site?
- 52:30Is it on the game site?
- 52:32Is it,
- 52:33and is it because legends qualifiers
- 52:35were happening around the same time.
- 52:37So then you have the actual
- 52:38legends mixed in with the games,
- 52:41which really was confusing.
- 52:43It's just dumb.
- 52:45Yeah.
- 52:51Do you think CrossFit is
- 52:52going to totally give away
- 52:54the Masters games, and this is why?
- 52:58I mean, it really seems that way.
- 53:00Like, they didn't review any of this.
- 53:05I mean,
- 53:05the fact that you don't want to
- 53:07advertise this and get more
- 53:09eyes on this space is
- 53:12mind-boggling to me.
- 53:13Like, they seem checked out.
- 53:16it would have been nice to
- 53:17promote this while the
- 53:18games was happening during
- 53:19the commercial breaks like
- 53:21crossfit games masters was
- 53:23coming up show some
- 53:24highlights of last year's
- 53:26athletes that were there um
- 53:29yeah like there was
- 53:29definitely opportunity and
- 53:30I get that they had a lot
- 53:32of other things going on
- 53:32with the games and focus on
- 53:34other things but it would
- 53:35have been nice to have some
- 53:36features there during some
- 53:38dead times along with other
- 53:39commercials that they could
- 53:40do for crossfit I think was
- 53:41a missed opportunity
- 53:45I understand they don't want
- 53:45to be fully involved to be
- 53:47able to run their big show.
- 53:50But this is their base
- 53:53client for the affiliates.
- 53:56Adaptive and age group
- 53:58CrossFit Games show what is
- 54:01possible for the average everyday human.
- 54:06And by not using the footage
- 54:09or supporting it,
- 54:11they're going to miss out a lot.
- 54:14on helping the affiliates
- 54:15bring people into the gyms in my opinion.
- 54:21Yeah.
- 54:21And once again, they're going to be like,
- 54:23well, look at your viewership.
- 54:25It's not that great.
- 54:26Like we don't, this isn't our market.
- 54:30It's not great.
- 54:30Cause it's confusing is all get out.
- 54:33And, and the prices are exorbitant.
- 54:36If they're going to sit there and say,
- 54:37you guys, you didn't have a big showing.
- 54:39Like it's ridiculous.
- 54:42I would have, I would have had,
- 54:43probably I have like sixteen
- 54:45or seventeen people coming
- 54:46and I would have probably
- 54:46had ten more if it would
- 54:47have been half the price
- 54:52yeah wait I mean we have uh
- 54:54some questions coming up on
- 54:55that but it's it's so
- 54:56expensive both of the
- 54:59crossfit games are too
- 54:59expensive yeah it's nuts
- 55:02all right and you guys are
- 55:06flooding the chat love it
- 55:07but I cannot keep up
- 55:13If Legends is paying for the stream,
- 55:15it makes sense it's on their channel.
- 55:16If CrossFit was paying for it,
- 55:18it would be on their channel.
- 55:19Why can't it be on both?
- 55:21Right.
- 55:22The CrossFit subscriber
- 55:25count is so high and the
- 55:28eyes you can get on it by
- 55:29putting it on there.
- 55:33Share the damn stream with
- 55:35both so it shows on both.
- 55:38I don't care who leads it.
- 55:40but it should be on the
- 55:41CrossFit Games website.
- 55:45There's too many subscribers
- 55:46to not use those numbers.
- 55:57Oh, yeah,
- 55:57or create an age group CrossFit
- 55:59Games channel.
- 55:59I mean...
- 56:04No,
- 56:04I think it's got to stay in the same one.
- 56:05Like that already has like, you know,
- 56:07a million or two million.
- 56:09Like if we start from back from zero,
- 56:11it's no,
- 56:14we just need it all coming from
- 56:15the main source that has
- 56:17all of the subscribers and
- 56:19that's going to help.
- 56:26How much do they,
- 56:30I don't know what you're asking.
- 56:32I can't decipher that one.
- 56:37So I wanted to open up to
- 56:39you guys to ask Carolyn and
- 56:41Jamie questions.
- 56:42They're going to be competing this week.
- 56:45This is your chance to ask a
- 56:46couple athletes what it's
- 56:48like going into Games Week.
- 56:50Throw your questions out there.
- 56:51I'll try to keep up and do that.
- 56:57And while you guys do that,
- 56:58I want to play an ad,
- 56:59and we're going to talk
- 57:00about it in a little bit.
- 57:04And that is CrossFit has
- 57:05started another new
- 57:07initiative called With CrossFit I Can.
- 57:12And I just want to play a
- 57:12little bit of this so that
- 57:14we can talk about it after the questions.
- 57:19Because of CrossFit, I can.
- 57:22Live an active and healthy lifestyle.
- 57:24Do burpees.
- 57:26Do pull-ups.
- 57:28Move like a thirty-year-old.
- 57:29Do what I love.
- 57:30Feel like myself again.
- 57:32Now at forty-five,
- 57:33do the same things I used
- 57:34to do at twenty-five.
- 57:36I can jump on boxes that my
- 57:39other seventy-year-old
- 57:40friends admire me for being able to do.
- 57:43Play with my grandchildren for hours.
- 57:46Be a better mom and a better person.
- 57:48Haul in all the groceries all at once.
- 57:50Walk through life with confidence.
- 57:52Be my best self in the world for my family,
- 57:55my students, and my friends.
- 57:57I can speak.
- 57:58I was, uh,
- 57:59had a stroke January third in
- 58:01the CrossFit box.
- 58:02As we were warming up,
- 58:04the coach recognized my
- 58:05symptoms called the ambulance.
- 58:08They took me, treated me.
- 58:09And the next day I was able
- 58:10to get back in and speak again.
- 58:15So we'll talk about that in a minute.
- 58:17Let's see if we have any
- 58:18questions and then we'll
- 58:19come back to that.
- 58:22Um, Trent olive workout.
- 58:25You both are looking forward to the most.
- 58:34The ring muscle-up one?
- 58:36Probably that one.
- 58:37I think it's the best workout written.
- 58:39Yeah,
- 58:40I think on paper that's the best one
- 58:41written.
- 58:42I think the time cap could
- 58:43be longer for most of the divisions.
- 58:50I think that one's the best
- 58:51one written that they did.
- 58:53I like the finale, too.
- 58:54Yeah, I'd say that.
- 59:01How do you feel about the
- 59:01judging standards in age
- 59:03group versus the Indy?
- 59:05I feel they really dropped
- 59:06the standard accountability.
- 59:11I'm not sure.
- 59:14I don't have the experience of the Masters,
- 59:15so I don't know.
- 59:19I think it's because there's
- 59:22so many judges on the floor.
- 59:25and turnover between heats
- 59:28and events and age groups I
- 59:31I think the ball gets
- 59:32dropped in I mean I think
- 59:35there was issues last year
- 59:36with some of the judges
- 59:38either having the wrong
- 59:39card or telling the athlete
- 59:41the wrong number of
- 59:43calories or something that
- 59:44or pull-ups they had to do
- 59:45on the echo bike pull-up um
- 59:48double under workout
- 59:50Like,
- 59:50I think they told someone they were
- 59:52done and they were like
- 59:54still going off of the
- 59:55sixty five age group from before.
- 59:57Because there's so many
- 59:58different versions of the
- 59:59workouts that it's difficult.
- 1:00:01That's something I didn't think about.
- 1:00:02But yeah, that would be very confusing.
- 1:00:04Like if you're done like that,
- 1:00:06let's say you're working on
- 1:00:07a certain floor that's just
- 1:00:08going through all different
- 1:00:09different age groups like
- 1:00:10you have different numbers.
- 1:00:12And yeah, that's tough.
- 1:00:13Yeah.
- 1:00:14So the judges, I mean, it sucks.
- 1:00:17Like, honestly,
- 1:00:18what I would tell any
- 1:00:19athletes watching this,
- 1:00:20know your workout in and out.
- 1:00:22Because luckily that athlete,
- 1:00:24I remember they were telling, it was like,
- 1:00:27and they had just,
- 1:00:28the sixty-five had just gone.
- 1:00:29So they were supposed to get, like,
- 1:00:30sixty kills.
- 1:00:31And somebody on the floor, like,
- 1:00:33hit that number.
- 1:00:33And they're like, you're done.
- 1:00:34And they're like, no, I'm not.
- 1:00:35And luckily they continued.
- 1:00:36So know your freaking
- 1:00:37workout in case a judge
- 1:00:40still has the bracket
- 1:00:41before you is workout in their head.
- 1:00:46yes mr field podcast we kind
- 1:00:49of touched on this do they
- 1:00:51make athletes pay to
- 1:00:51participate in the games I
- 1:00:53think jamie already
- 1:00:53mentioned with fees
- 1:00:55american it was four thirty
- 1:00:58and carolyn said over five
- 1:00:59hundred for canadian um so
- 1:01:02yes and that goes for elite
- 1:01:04individuals too yeah sure
- 1:01:07yeah I mean I think it was
- 1:01:09the same price yeah it's
- 1:01:10not just the age groups um
- 1:01:19Megan Bowman,
- 1:01:20if you could trade out a
- 1:01:21movement for something else in a workout,
- 1:01:23what would it be?
- 1:01:26I would just scratch that
- 1:01:27three minute workout and
- 1:01:28make it a gymnastics dependent workout.
- 1:01:30That three minute one I think is stupid.
- 1:01:33One, you're relying on sleds,
- 1:01:35which traditionally has not
- 1:01:36been good for CrossFit
- 1:01:37competitions or any competitions.
- 1:01:39And that whole workout is
- 1:01:39going to be a sled workout
- 1:01:41for three minutes.
- 1:01:43Scratch that out and make a
- 1:01:45gymnastics dependent.
- 1:01:46If you're going to do a
- 1:01:47single modality run,
- 1:01:48a single modality lift, that third one,
- 1:01:52We need a gymnastics
- 1:01:54dependent workout before the cut,
- 1:01:56but not a single modality.
- 1:01:58That's my answer for that one.
- 1:02:00Yes, John.
- 1:02:01You're only guaranteed seven
- 1:02:03events for five hundred dollars.
- 1:02:05Correct.
- 1:02:05And some very short ones.
- 1:02:09Carolyn,
- 1:02:09how do you think you'll feel
- 1:02:11physically compared to the games?
- 1:02:15I think the same.
- 1:02:18I feel like I could compete
- 1:02:19honestly any weekend of the year.
- 1:02:21If I'm being honest.
- 1:02:23Like I was ready to train
- 1:02:24again right after the games.
- 1:02:26And like this year was only three days.
- 1:02:28Like this was the least beat
- 1:02:29up I've ever felt from the games.
- 1:02:31Like there's been games
- 1:02:32where I felt rough on that last day.
- 1:02:36And I can't say that I felt
- 1:02:37like that this year.
- 1:02:40So I don't know if it's just
- 1:02:41because it was shorter.
- 1:02:42So the soreness didn't get me as much.
- 1:02:45If it's
- 1:02:47less volume I mean most of
- 1:02:48the workouts again there
- 1:02:49was they were pretty short
- 1:02:51too um but like if you look
- 1:02:54at the workouts like none
- 1:02:56of them were in the sun
- 1:02:57like no heavy odd objects
- 1:03:00most of them are ten
- 1:03:01minutes or less that they
- 1:03:02did as well at the crossfit
- 1:03:04games not just the masters
- 1:03:05that are getting those short time domains
- 1:03:09But, like,
- 1:03:10I didn't feel beat up from the
- 1:03:11games this year.
- 1:03:12So I feel fine going for the Masters.
- 1:03:14I'm going to insert my own question.
- 1:03:17Are you more wrecked after a
- 1:03:18weekend of competing at the
- 1:03:19games or demo teaming for the games?
- 1:03:22Probably the CrossFit games.
- 1:03:26Okay.
- 1:03:26But the demo, like, I was sore, too.
- 1:03:31But I think the intensity of
- 1:03:34the competition just goes a
- 1:03:35little bit further.
- 1:03:40Jamie, did you get your Bajan jersey yet?
- 1:03:43She actually wore it last
- 1:03:44week on the show and got
- 1:03:46grief from Ken Walters.
- 1:03:47I did get grief.
- 1:03:48I was not planning on
- 1:03:49wearing it for the whole time.
- 1:03:50I just wanted to rub it in Scott's face.
- 1:03:53Will anything less than a
- 1:03:54podium be a successful weekend for you?
- 1:03:57Yes.
- 1:04:00That's coming up in Scott's question,
- 1:04:01so we'll go over that.
- 1:04:03Yes,
- 1:04:04something less than podium will be
- 1:04:05successful for me.
- 1:04:09I need to live my life like Carolyn,
- 1:04:11able to compete any weekend of the year.
- 1:04:13We all need to be more like Carolyn.
- 1:04:17I just think I listen to my body a lot,
- 1:04:18and if I don't,
- 1:04:20if there's a training
- 1:04:21session that I feel like
- 1:04:21just doing two pieces in the whole day,
- 1:04:23like, that's it.
- 1:04:26And I think that's what's
- 1:04:27kind of made me able to
- 1:04:29train at this level for, you know,
- 1:04:31twelve plus years.
- 1:04:33And I take two rest days a week,
- 1:04:35full rest days,
- 1:04:37which is enough to just kind of
- 1:04:40not burn out to John George
- 1:04:44wants to know if you've
- 1:04:45talked to Taylor about the
- 1:04:47programming for age groups.
- 1:04:49I am also curious,
- 1:04:51just exactly how he feels
- 1:04:52about the program.
- 1:04:53I don't know that.
- 1:04:57I don't really know that
- 1:04:57anyone outside of our space has like,
- 1:04:59I haven't even heard Jr
- 1:05:00talk about the Masters programming yet.
- 1:05:02And usually he weighs in on it.
- 1:05:05So I don't know that he's fully
- 1:05:09Well, I know, I know Taylor's coming.
- 1:05:11Yeah.
- 1:05:12Sentinel athletes qualified.
- 1:05:17And so I didn't know if you
- 1:05:18guys had talked offline as
- 1:05:22a group or he's just coming
- 1:05:23to support you guys.
- 1:05:26We've talked.
- 1:05:27I just, again,
- 1:05:28I don't know that he has like,
- 1:05:31he was on the vacation with
- 1:05:32Lizzie and I don't know that he's like
- 1:05:35and they came out like, you know,
- 1:05:37a few days apart.
- 1:05:37So I don't know if anyone
- 1:05:38else has like sat down and
- 1:05:40written these out and been like, man,
- 1:05:42this, this, this, like, I don't know.
- 1:05:45Um, I know,
- 1:05:48I do know there's other people
- 1:05:49that feel the way I feel
- 1:05:51about these workouts, but I mean,
- 1:05:55I'm sure there's also a
- 1:05:56handful of people who freaking love them.
- 1:05:59uh kenneth asks wasn't jamie
- 1:06:01originally taken this year
- 1:06:02off yes yeah and I'm
- 1:06:03freaking kicking myself or
- 1:06:05not I I didn't have people
- 1:06:07already invested to pay to
- 1:06:10come watch I would have
- 1:06:11backed out I truly hate the
- 1:06:13programming I'm extremely
- 1:06:15frustrated yep and that
- 1:06:21comes from your fourth
- 1:06:22place finisher last year
- 1:06:28All right.
- 1:06:29Yeah, true.
- 1:06:30Taylor and Joe and Bob were
- 1:06:32not shy about each other before.
- 1:06:33No, they were not.
- 1:06:36All right.
- 1:06:37What do we got left here?
- 1:06:41So we had what we talked about earlier,
- 1:06:43the F the quick fix.
- 1:06:46CrossFit is secure.
- 1:06:47Now we have with CrossFit I can.
- 1:06:51And I've seen even some
- 1:06:53other old school kind of
- 1:07:00wrong thing uh some other
- 1:07:03old school kind of
- 1:07:04promotions and this is not
- 1:07:09going to be it shoot um let
- 1:07:11me find it putting nursing
- 1:07:18homes out of business since
- 1:07:22just what you spoke about
- 1:07:24jamie um yeah these are
- 1:07:26this is what they're using
- 1:07:28to promote crossfit yet
- 1:07:29they're not promoting the
- 1:07:31elite of that group that
- 1:07:33they're trying to push yeah
- 1:07:35um so it's a lot of that
- 1:07:39old school I've heard some
- 1:07:41people in the space say
- 1:07:42that going backwards is not
- 1:07:44the best for crossfit
- 1:07:48I kind of feel differently.
- 1:07:50I think we lost the root to
- 1:07:52the tree and we need to,
- 1:07:54to get rerouted before we
- 1:07:56go diving for more, more people.
- 1:08:00And, um,
- 1:08:01and I'm going to talk about this a
- 1:08:02lot more tomorrow,
- 1:08:04but I wanted to get your thoughts.
- 1:08:06Is the marketing going in
- 1:08:07the right direction?
- 1:08:09Oh, I totally think so.
- 1:08:16Yeah, for sure.
- 1:08:16I agree.
- 1:08:16I think, uh,
- 1:08:18I love the ads.
- 1:08:20I think they've used the
- 1:08:23momentum from the games and
- 1:08:25are redirecting everything
- 1:08:26towards a little bit back
- 1:08:29to what it used to be,
- 1:08:30like the messaging.
- 1:08:33And then there's been some
- 1:08:33good articles also shared
- 1:08:36through emails that people
- 1:08:37have access to.
- 1:08:40Yeah, so I think it's good.
- 1:08:42Keep it going.
- 1:08:44like I'm okay with that with
- 1:08:46that one picture with that
- 1:08:48lady uh for the nursing
- 1:08:50home and that could be one
- 1:08:51ad and then other ones you
- 1:08:52could also show the higher
- 1:08:54end of you know um
- 1:08:58possibilities too I think
- 1:09:02when I was at the masters
- 1:09:03games last year when some
- 1:09:05of the sixty five plus
- 1:09:07women were getting their
- 1:09:07first bar muscle ups it was
- 1:09:09the loudest cheer in the
- 1:09:11building the entire weekend
- 1:09:14entire weekend it was the
- 1:09:17coolest thing to see ever
- 1:09:20like capturing that full
- 1:09:21moment would have been such
- 1:09:23a cool ad um I'm really
- 1:09:27disappointed that like
- 1:09:29they're not doing more with
- 1:09:31the age groups but
- 1:09:33hopefully it's with the
- 1:09:34sale and everything going
- 1:09:36on but I will say this
- 1:09:39The one thing that the WFP
- 1:09:40was doing better than
- 1:09:41CrossFit the whole time was
- 1:09:43press releases to the
- 1:09:45people known as media.
- 1:09:47And CrossFit has now jumped
- 1:09:49up to doing the same thing.
- 1:09:51All of these ad campaigns
- 1:09:53are being sent to media
- 1:09:54members with assets to use
- 1:09:56on their shows to promote
- 1:09:59all of this stuff.
- 1:10:01And I think that that's
- 1:10:03finally a kick in the right
- 1:10:04direction for sure.
- 1:10:07Communicating with media,
- 1:10:09cooperating with media,
- 1:10:10partnering with media has
- 1:10:12got to be improved,
- 1:10:16and it is being improved
- 1:10:17over the last few months for sure.
- 1:10:22And I think that's one thing
- 1:10:23WFP showed them could be
- 1:10:26done better and was doing better.
- 1:10:34So.
- 1:10:36Sounds like Bajan's doing good.
- 1:10:37going on I don't want to
- 1:10:39know too much because I'm
- 1:10:41going to go back and watch
- 1:10:42the game after this is over
- 1:10:43I will too um and and I
- 1:10:49love tyson bajan but I'm
- 1:10:50really glad that I saw that
- 1:10:52on the first drive caleb
- 1:10:54williams drove them down
- 1:10:55for a touchdown as well all
- 1:10:59right let's do factor fiction
- 1:11:02are filling up the time I
- 1:11:04wasn't sure we were but
- 1:11:05weird we are so here we go
- 1:11:08fact or fiction the
- 1:11:11athletes who chose to do
- 1:11:12both seasons are realizing
- 1:11:14that it may be too much I
- 1:11:22think fiction for this year
- 1:11:25yeah I could I think it's
- 1:11:26fine for this year I don't
- 1:11:27think that many did like a
- 1:11:28ridiculous amount like if
- 1:11:29you look at people that
- 1:11:30have qualified through the online
- 1:11:32I mean, they would have done the online,
- 1:11:34and then their semifinal
- 1:11:35was the first stop.
- 1:11:37Then they have their games,
- 1:11:40and then now they have a second stop.
- 1:11:41Like,
- 1:11:42end of... There's some athletes that
- 1:11:45will get a lot, but not all athletes.
- 1:11:49I don't think it's that much.
- 1:11:50Yeah,
- 1:11:50I don't see it impacting the likes of
- 1:11:54Dalen, Hopper, James, like...
- 1:11:58for the top athletes they
- 1:11:59qualified early enough like
- 1:12:00they weren't doing multiple
- 1:12:01semifinals like some of the
- 1:12:02other ones yeah so I think
- 1:12:05it depends I think to back
- 1:12:09to like carolyn's point
- 1:12:10because this is how I have
- 1:12:11always trained too that
- 1:12:13like she feels ready to go
- 1:12:15almost every weekend I
- 1:12:16actually think something
- 1:12:17like this could be good for
- 1:12:19the space I've said this in
- 1:12:20the past like I don't like the
- 1:12:24peaking tapering strength
- 1:12:26cycles like I think I I
- 1:12:28almost think that's why
- 1:12:29we're pushing the strength
- 1:12:31too much I think if if
- 1:12:35people had to be like more
- 1:12:36ready to go more often and
- 1:12:40programming was smarter we
- 1:12:42could be healthier
- 1:12:44year-round I mean I think
- 1:12:45this year's games programming was
- 1:12:48better in that no one dropped out,
- 1:12:49no one got hurt.
- 1:12:50It is more true CrossFit.
- 1:12:51And if stuff was programmed
- 1:12:53like that and not trying,
- 1:12:54like if you threw this,
- 1:12:56this games programming,
- 1:12:58this age group games
- 1:12:58programming multiple times
- 1:13:01at age groupers,
- 1:13:03you'd have injuries left and right.
- 1:13:04But if you program the way
- 1:13:05the game indie games
- 1:13:06programmed for multiple events,
- 1:13:09I think you'd see some
- 1:13:11serious fitness growth.
- 1:13:14I do think that the reason I
- 1:13:17put this question up is I
- 1:13:18heard Hopper say he didn't
- 1:13:20know how he was going to be
- 1:13:21able to actually get some
- 1:13:22rest before the next event.
- 1:13:24I heard Dallin say the same thing.
- 1:13:26So I think like initially
- 1:13:28right after the games,
- 1:13:30they were looking at it as
- 1:13:32maybe we bit off more than we could chew.
- 1:13:35Now,
- 1:13:35I think as they're getting close to
- 1:13:36the next event,
- 1:13:38maybe their bodies are healing up.
- 1:13:39They weren't beat down as
- 1:13:40much as they thought it was,
- 1:13:42and now it's getting better for them.
- 1:13:44But I think in the initial moment,
- 1:13:46they thought it was too much,
- 1:13:48and maybe that's changed in
- 1:13:49the last week.
- 1:13:51Yeah,
- 1:13:53it's the ones that have the hard
- 1:13:57offseason, like of –
- 1:13:59games um two or two
- 1:14:02wadapalooza rogue two or
- 1:14:04three or final that's the
- 1:14:06tough stretch that off
- 1:14:07season for the top athletes
- 1:14:09that are the top of our
- 1:14:11space that can that are
- 1:14:12able to do all of those
- 1:14:13because they're the fittest
- 1:14:15that's the rough stretch
- 1:14:16what we've done so far we
- 1:14:18don't really know like
- 1:14:19there's there hasn't been
- 1:14:21that much unless you did
- 1:14:22multiple events because you
- 1:14:25didn't qualify on your
- 1:14:26initial try you didn't do that much
- 1:14:29Like you had the open,
- 1:14:30you didn't have quarterfinals,
- 1:14:32then you had whatever
- 1:14:33semi-final you wanted to do and WTF, WFP,
- 1:14:40sorry, WFP,
- 1:14:42WFP one and the games like that.
- 1:14:45That's not that much.
- 1:14:48Yeah,
- 1:14:48you're singing out of the same hymnal
- 1:14:49as Justin.
- 1:14:51The athletes that have to do
- 1:14:52tier was a road in Copenhagen.
- 1:14:55Let's see.
- 1:14:56Yeah,
- 1:14:57because that essentially is going to
- 1:14:58take away their offseason.
- 1:14:59Yep.
- 1:15:01Unless they use the open as
- 1:15:04they can get through
- 1:15:06without really being in shape.
- 1:15:08The ones that don't have
- 1:15:10tier Waterpalooza will have
- 1:15:12a little bit of September off,
- 1:15:14maybe a couple weeks off there,
- 1:15:16and then they'll get back
- 1:15:17to it for Rogue.
- 1:15:19Only the ones that are
- 1:15:19competing at the tier SoCal
- 1:15:23will have that tough September comp too.
- 1:15:25But I think for the most part,
- 1:15:27people took a few days off
- 1:15:29after the games,
- 1:15:30then four or five days off,
- 1:15:35and then they were already
- 1:15:36back at their gyms training,
- 1:15:37which is weird to see
- 1:15:38because so many people
- 1:15:39every year at the games are like, oh,
- 1:15:40I'm not coming back for a month.
- 1:15:42And it's weird to see them
- 1:15:43back pretty early and jumping into –
- 1:15:46some programming because
- 1:15:47they have the wfp um two or
- 1:15:50two stop but yeah now
- 1:15:52everybody's doing the
- 1:15:52carolyn training the what
- 1:15:55everybody's doing your
- 1:15:56training you didn't take no
- 1:15:58stinking month off all
- 1:15:59right um next one factor
- 1:16:05fiction both carolyn and
- 1:16:06jamie will podium at the
- 1:16:08age group crossfit games fiction
- 1:16:18Carolyn.
- 1:16:20I'm running fat.
- 1:16:23You won't hurt my feelings, girl.
- 1:16:30John fact.
- 1:16:32Fact.
- 1:16:36Fluffy fit says fiction.
- 1:16:38There you go.
- 1:16:42Let's go.
- 1:16:44Patrick, you don't know Jamie.
- 1:16:47There is no, doesn't try.
- 1:16:50I I'm,
- 1:16:51I'm just a very programming
- 1:16:52dependent athlete and typically thing.
- 1:16:56There's enough,
- 1:16:58like last year I didn't
- 1:16:59podium last year and there
- 1:17:00was like three wheelhouse
- 1:17:03workouts for me.
- 1:17:04Like, I don't,
- 1:17:05I don't even know that I can
- 1:17:06get one of which you didn't
- 1:17:08know was a wheelhouse workout for you.
- 1:17:10So you did it maybe, but
- 1:17:17No, maybe.
- 1:17:18There's not going to be –
- 1:17:19I'm not going to have
- 1:17:20multiple top three finishes this year.
- 1:17:25So it's going to be very tough.
- 1:17:30I'm going to try to – I'll try my best,
- 1:17:33guys.
- 1:17:34I've seen Jamie compete live
- 1:17:36several times now.
- 1:17:38She turns into a different person.
- 1:17:44I know, but I can only do –
- 1:17:46I can only do what I can do that one.
- 1:17:49Twenty five snatch is not light for me.
- 1:17:51I was fifty six in the
- 1:17:54semifinals in the snatch.
- 1:17:57So if I'm outside of all the
- 1:17:59top thirty people that got in.
- 1:18:02Once again,
- 1:18:03that workout is fully dependent
- 1:18:05on strength.
- 1:18:07It's dependent on a barbell.
- 1:18:08And if I have to stand there
- 1:18:09for a minute to do four
- 1:18:10snatches because I need
- 1:18:12fifteen seconds between reps like
- 1:18:16I've lost anything I can
- 1:18:17gain on a rope climb and a wall walk.
- 1:18:21I think for,
- 1:18:21I think maybe for your age
- 1:18:22group dependent there, I think for,
- 1:18:25for mine,
- 1:18:25it's going to be more on the wall walks.
- 1:18:27Sure.
- 1:18:28I, I agree with that.
- 1:18:28I just think.
- 1:18:30Which I was happy because we
- 1:18:32need something that's
- 1:18:33dependent by the gymnastics because it's,
- 1:18:36there's not much.
- 1:18:37I'm waiting.
- 1:18:37I've been waiting for one and I,
- 1:18:39I just don't think it.
- 1:18:40Yeah.
- 1:18:40I don't think I have it.
- 1:18:46um jamie never thinks she's
- 1:18:48gonna do well then does we
- 1:18:50know jamie yeah I wish
- 1:18:53jamie knew jamie yeah all
- 1:18:57right next one crossfit has
- 1:19:01a pricing issue with tickets
- 1:19:04that way too expensive and
- 1:19:06I'm not expensive it's not
- 1:19:07accessible because the
- 1:19:08masters you want that all
- 1:19:09the family to be there
- 1:19:11they're not paying two
- 1:19:12hundred and eighty dollars
- 1:19:13for the weekend every
- 1:19:14member to go watch like
- 1:19:16that's ridiculous just age
- 1:19:18group I am talking elite
- 1:19:20crossfit games and this yep
- 1:19:23Five hundred and whatever
- 1:19:24dollars for the weekend at
- 1:19:26the elites and two hundred
- 1:19:27eighty dollars at the age
- 1:19:29group is utterly ridiculous.
- 1:19:31When you're trying to get
- 1:19:32butts in the seats,
- 1:19:34you are overpricing yourself out of it.
- 1:19:40We complain nobody shows up,
- 1:19:41but we want to charge them
- 1:19:43like we're SEC college
- 1:19:45football on a Saturday.
- 1:19:48And we're and it's not.
- 1:19:51I wouldn't even pay more
- 1:19:52than thirty bucks a day.
- 1:19:54Personally.
- 1:19:57I wouldn't pay more than thirty bucks.
- 1:19:58I'd be like, damn.
- 1:20:00What's frustrating is I live in this town.
- 1:20:02Local throwdowns get big
- 1:20:05crowds if they just know what's going on.
- 1:20:08But ain't nobody paying
- 1:20:10eighty two dollars to walk
- 1:20:12in the door and
- 1:20:14yeah to watch the same
- 1:20:16workout and to watch the
- 1:20:18same workout and um however
- 1:20:20many no way no like I would
- 1:20:25not pay more than thirty
- 1:20:26dollars it I I don't know
- 1:20:32who came up with the
- 1:20:33pricing strategy it's ridiculous
- 1:20:37They need to switch their
- 1:20:39thinking from boutique to quantity.
- 1:20:46And someone said, Patrick,
- 1:20:49PC said it like it hurts the vendors,
- 1:20:50like get more people in so
- 1:20:52they can purchase and also
- 1:20:55just see what CrossFit is all about.
- 1:20:58Make it twenty bucks a day,
- 1:21:00max fifteen dollars and get
- 1:21:03it filled up way more.
- 1:21:06And if the vendors are happy,
- 1:21:08then they're going to pay
- 1:21:10more for their booths.
- 1:21:12Like you can make up the
- 1:21:13money other places.
- 1:21:14Right.
- 1:21:16It's just ridiculous.
- 1:21:18Plus they're doing their own
- 1:21:19competition thingy that
- 1:21:21they got money with all the
- 1:21:24team competition and
- 1:21:25college divisions and whatnot,
- 1:21:26which I don't think should be there.
- 1:21:28Right.
- 1:21:29I agree.
- 1:21:29I agree.
- 1:21:30And then you're charging all
- 1:21:31this much like.
- 1:21:33the crossover games was it
- 1:21:35was too expensive as well
- 1:21:36like make that less
- 1:21:37expensive and get the seats
- 1:21:40filled yeah then you can
- 1:21:44get endorsements like
- 1:21:45streaming live on life
- 1:21:46alert denny's aarp there
- 1:21:53should have been an arp discount
- 1:22:01All right, next one.
- 1:22:04Last one.
- 1:22:08Fact or fiction,
- 1:22:09third-party CrossFit media
- 1:22:11is crossing over a line in
- 1:22:13what they are reporting, i.e.,
- 1:22:15the Danielle Brandon stuff.
- 1:22:24Yeah, I mean,
- 1:22:25I feel like some of this
- 1:22:26stuff has gotten just
- 1:22:28completely unnecessary.
- 1:22:31The knock at the door made no sense.
- 1:22:33I don't even know why we're
- 1:22:34reporting on that.
- 1:22:36Yeah.
- 1:22:38But the gym stuff, I think it's relevant.
- 1:22:41I think other gym owners
- 1:22:42need to hear that stuff,
- 1:22:44and I don't think that was a problem.
- 1:22:49I just feel like we're
- 1:22:50picking on a couple athletes,
- 1:22:53versus it's not the same
- 1:22:54type of... It's not an even...
- 1:23:00coverage and obviously that
- 1:23:01comes with the more
- 1:23:02following but and what will
- 1:23:04get people to have more
- 1:23:05views yeah there's a lot of
- 1:23:09extra stuff that I don't
- 1:23:10care for here's my thing a
- 1:23:15lot of people are
- 1:23:16complaining about it a lot
- 1:23:17of people are watching it
- 1:23:22yeah media it's other
- 1:23:27sports it's mainstream media
- 1:23:34You know what I mean?
- 1:23:38Can you guys hear me?
- 1:23:38Yeah.
- 1:23:39Yeah.
- 1:23:42You cut out for like the
- 1:23:43first part of your answer.
- 1:23:44I was just saying the
- 1:23:46mainstream media is doing the same thing.
- 1:23:49Oh, yeah.
- 1:23:51Like, this is not just CrossFit only.
- 1:23:54It was mentioned,
- 1:23:56Bill Belichick on a Ring
- 1:23:57doorbell camera made headlines.
- 1:24:01Like,
- 1:24:03it happens all the time in all the
- 1:24:05other news media.
- 1:24:07Here's my thing.
- 1:24:08You have tons of options on YouTube.
- 1:24:11You don't want to watch that?
- 1:24:12Click it over to the other thing.
- 1:24:13That's true.
- 1:24:19I mean, Jenny, just that is Jenny's thing.
- 1:24:21She is the TMZ of CrossFit,
- 1:24:25and so she's like, yeah,
- 1:24:26you don't have to watch
- 1:24:27that little ten-minute
- 1:24:28morning show if you aren't
- 1:24:29here for the tea.
- 1:24:31Debra Norville was on Inside
- 1:24:33Edition for thirty years.
- 1:24:37You know, it just is.
- 1:24:40Yeah.
- 1:24:44Well,
- 1:24:44it looks like Tyson Bajan has thrown
- 1:24:46his third touchdown.
- 1:24:47Woo!
- 1:24:52All right.
- 1:24:52Well, that's factor fiction for the week.
- 1:24:55We have a couple quick
- 1:24:56hitter things and we'll get
- 1:24:57out of here for the night.
- 1:24:59Um,
- 1:25:00Alex Kazan has announced that she's
- 1:25:02withdrawn from a WFP tour stop too.
- 1:25:07I know Justin's in the comments,
- 1:25:09but not surprising.
- 1:25:11I would say she has enough
- 1:25:12points to get to Copenhagen.
- 1:25:14No point in rushing back, um,
- 1:25:16and letting the injury heal fully.
- 1:25:19Um,
- 1:25:21So not a big surprise.
- 1:25:24And I'm sure Justin will
- 1:25:26weigh in on anything.
- 1:25:28Next thing up is Annie
- 1:25:30Thorstotter has announced
- 1:25:31she's pregnant with number
- 1:25:32three due in February.
- 1:25:35So another pregnancy in the
- 1:25:36CrossFit space.
- 1:25:38I know there's been a lot of
- 1:25:39speculation that someone
- 1:25:40may have been pregnant at
- 1:25:41the CrossFit Games.
- 1:25:43So people were waiting for a
- 1:25:44pregnancy announcement.
- 1:25:45This isn't the one.
- 1:25:46Yeah.
- 1:25:51um and then finally had a
- 1:25:54canoe documentary it's
- 1:25:56going to be in two episodes
- 1:25:58uh first episode will be
- 1:25:59out tuesday this week
- 1:26:03probably after the lunch
- 1:26:05show at some point two or
- 1:26:08three o'clock I'll know more this week um
- 1:26:13I wanted to get that part
- 1:26:14out before the age group
- 1:26:16games and then I'll work on
- 1:26:17the rest of it after uh the
- 1:26:19age group games um and this
- 1:26:22is all it's about minutes
- 1:26:26it is all the stuff leading
- 1:26:27up to game time so um
- 1:26:33really interesting
- 1:26:34conversations really
- 1:26:36surprised how blunt and
- 1:26:38honest she was about different things uh
- 1:26:43going on in the space going
- 1:26:45on in the warm-up area uh I
- 1:26:49think you're really gonna
- 1:26:50like it made it hard to
- 1:26:52edit but we got it edited
- 1:26:54down uh to something nice
- 1:26:57and I think you guys will
- 1:26:58really really enjoy it so
- 1:26:59that'll be out tuesday
- 1:27:01afternoon um at probably
- 1:27:04two two p.m somewhere like that
- 1:27:09and then we'll get the other
- 1:27:10one out after the age group
- 1:27:12CrossFit Games.
- 1:27:14You guys got anything else
- 1:27:17to finish up with?
- 1:27:19I did see she's crushing it in rehab.
- 1:27:23We'll be back sooner than expected.
- 1:27:31That's great.
- 1:27:34With that... Good luck to...
- 1:27:37everyone I mean all the we
- 1:27:38got lito denise although
- 1:27:39all of our listeners that
- 1:27:41are also going to be at the
- 1:27:43shannon age group shannon's
- 1:27:46going to be there um yeah
- 1:27:51we've got so many masters
- 1:27:52athletes I know chat come
- 1:27:55say hi to me I want to meet
- 1:27:57you all in person I think
- 1:27:59lito said let's get a group picture yeah
- 1:28:02Of all the Clydesdale people.
- 1:28:05We'll try to set something
- 1:28:06up where it meets everybody's schedule.
- 1:28:09We can find like a nice
- 1:28:10little quiet place.
- 1:28:12Hopefully she's in the thirty five.
- 1:28:17Yes.
- 1:28:21Who's that?
- 1:28:21Lito.
- 1:28:21Yeah.
- 1:28:22But Shannon is Justin's athlete, I think,
- 1:28:25in the fifty to fifty five.
- 1:28:28Fifty to fifty four, maybe.
- 1:28:32um so yeah I think allison's
- 1:28:35gonna be in there she was
- 1:28:36in the chat just snap good
- 1:28:38luck allison stahl was in
- 1:28:40the chat yeah lots and lots
- 1:28:44of messages in the chat yes
- 1:28:49skipping it real uh she is
- 1:28:52there regretfully yeah
- 1:28:58andrea is there again yes
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