Latest / Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast / Conversations

Transcript

Conversations · Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast

0:07
From the On air Across America newsroom.
0:09
I'm Alex Ross and this is your Morning News update.
0:12
Paramount has completed its acquisition of Warner Brothers
0:15
Discovery, creating a company called Skydance.
0:18
The transaction is valued at approximately $110 billion,
0:23
including debt. Skydance now controls CBS News,
0:26
CNN, Paramount Pictures, Warner Brothers, HBO Max and Paramount
0:31
Plus. The company plans at least 30
0:33
theatrical releases each year. The Navy and Andrell Industries
0:37
have announced a $6.6 billion projects to expand Virginia
0:42
class submarine production. Andrell will build a component
0:45
manufacturing facility at Sparrows Point, Maryland.
0:48
Production is expected to begin in 2030.
0:51
Washington State Ferries returned mostly to normal
0:54
Tuesday after 23 engine room employees called out sick
0:57
Monday, sidelining 13 of the system's 18 vessels.
1:01
Some residual delays continued because as of crew rest
1:04
requirements, Tropical Storm Isaias has formed in the Gulf of
1:08
Mexico. Forecasters expected to
1:10
strengthen before approaching the northern Gulf Coast Friday
1:14
and the Vegas Golden Knights defeated the Seattle Krakens six
1:17
to two. Vegas scored three special teams
1:20
goals for the on air across American network.
1:23
I'm Alex Ross. History has a long memory.
1:33
Power has a short one. Somewhere between what they told
1:37
you, what actually happened, and what nobody bothered to
1:41
question, there's a story worth telling.
1:45
From history and politics to culture, common sense, and the
1:49
occasional trip down the rabbit hole.
1:51
This is plausibly live The Dave Bowman Show.
1:56
Well, good morning, good evening or good afternoon, wherever you
1:59
are, whatever you do. A lot of things happening in the
2:01
world today, most of them are far beyond our control, you
2:04
might say. So perhaps it's time we took a
2:07
pause and thought about life and thought about the laws of
2:10
gravity. Conversations, sons, children,
2:16
the future. Book bands, fairies, governors.
2:23
Don't touch that dial. Just try to hear me out for a
2:25
little while. Want to join the show today?
2:28
It's text numbers 209565, Dave, 209-565-3283. e-mail remains
2:35
Dave at the Dave bowmanshow.com. And of course, you can find us
2:39
on the web at the Dave bowmanshow.com or
2:42
plausiblylive.com. It's the same website.
2:45
You get us on Facebook. Just look for the Dave Bowman
2:47
Show. I'm even on Twitter, although I
2:52
haven't quite mastered moving over to that account yet.
2:56
I still have my main account and I'll get used to it.
3:01
Follow us there and you can follow us on the On air Across
3:04
American Network page on Facebook as well.
3:09
A Loqui Conizio stand up. Tell those who oppose liberty.
3:12
Don't tread on me. It used to be a lot better at
3:26
timing that out, but it'll come back a long time since I did
3:30
live stuff, you know? Anyway, so as you know, Ben has
3:38
homeschooled and that is something that I got talked out
3:45
of. And then we ran into some issues
3:47
and we decided to to homeschool him because frankly, the
3:53
schooling he was getting was not satisfactory at all and it was
3:58
causing problems and emotionally it was causing problems for Ben.
4:03
And so we pulled him out of school, began to homeschool, and
4:08
then we found an online schooling system.
4:10
Back during COVID when the online school system started, he
4:14
actually thrived in that. I know most kids supposedly
4:18
didn't do well, but Ben actually did.
4:21
Ben actually really liked the online schooling thing.
4:25
And if I were to sit here and analyze it, there's probably
4:29
some reasons for that. Probably because he a number
4:32
one, he's very adept with computers.
4:36
He, he has plans for the old computer that used to be in here
4:41
and he's constantly pinging on me.
4:44
Have you formatted that yet? Have you reformatted that yet?
4:46
I'm ready to go. And I finally said to him
4:48
yesterday, just do it yourself. I don't, I don't care.
4:50
There's nothing left on it that that matters.
4:52
Which turned out not to be true. But anyway, he writes
4:57
programming. I mean, I walk into his room,
4:59
his bedroom, and he's got the three monitors set up.
5:02
I only have the two monitors set up.
5:04
My other one is a television, but he's got the three monitors
5:07
set up. And it looks like the freaking
5:09
matrix in there, man. It really does.
5:12
He's very adept with computers. And so I think he kind of took
5:15
to the online schooling. And so we found this online
5:17
schooling thing that he does very well with.
5:22
And Cammy's work schedule now is such that she is home on
5:26
weekdays. And so he does his homework.
5:30
They sit down at the dining room table and it's given us
5:33
opportunities to have conversations again with him.
5:38
And I'm, and I'm really enjoying that.
5:40
And part of this is he takes a off site or on site class twice
5:46
a week. It's APE class.
5:49
And I take him to this and it's, for me, it's actually, it's a
5:53
very relaxing time. They have a nice lounge and I
5:56
sit in the lounge with my, my MacBook and I work on a lot of
6:01
show stuff. That's it's time for me to
6:04
actually put on my headphones without any distractions at all
6:08
and just think and I and I really enjoy that.
6:11
So I look forward to that Wednesdays and Fridays taking
6:14
him to that. Plus on Wednesdays, KFC has the
6:17
499 country for chicken fried steak meals.
6:20
So so we'd get that on the way home anyway.
6:24
The last time we went, we were driving down the hill and Ben
6:28
looked at me and he said, I think I already know what you
6:31
think about this, but I'd like to ask you because I really want
6:35
to know for sure. And he asked me what I think of
6:40
book bands. It's an interesting conversation
6:46
for a father to have with his son.
6:47
Because the easiest answer would have been been I'm I'm against
6:51
censorship. I could put that on a bumper
6:54
sticker. I could put it on my wall, but
6:58
the bigger thing I'm trying to teach him is to think about
7:02
things, to think about stuff from a critical standpoint.
7:06
Why is Dad, Why is Dave against book bans?
7:13
Book bans? You know, when we think about
7:16
book bans, what do we think about?
7:17
We think about the Nazis marching in torchlight circles
7:20
and burning books. We think about the Communist
7:23
Chinese burning books during the during the the Cultural
7:27
Revolution. We think about medieval towns
7:31
burning Torah scrolls. We think about things like that.
7:35
We don't, we don't really equate it to modern thought, but the
7:41
truth is it's happening a lot today in our country, in the
7:48
places you would least expect it to happen.
7:53
And that, I said to him, is problematic to me.
7:55
And when you start getting into the why I'm against this stuff,
7:59
it's comes down to the simple, simple proposition of what does
8:03
liberty mean? We casually use these terms.
8:08
I said to him, we freedom and liberty.
8:11
But in English they are, as I've told you many times, they're not
8:15
the same thing. Freedom, you know, belonging to
8:20
a community. It's an older dramatic concept.
8:23
Liberty carries that Greco Roman context of self determination.
8:30
And liberty is self determination.
8:32
That's what it is. It's the idea that I decide what
8:37
is best for me. Freedom causes me to say, OK,
8:42
what's best for me within the context of the community.
8:48
And as I began to talk to him about these ideas, it was
8:50
interesting because, you know, we were getting away from the
8:53
idea of necessarily just the book ban.
8:55
We were we were ranging into these areas about self
8:59
determination and why self determination, why liberty
9:02
matters. If I believe in Ben's liberty, I
9:07
have to accept something uncomfortable here.
9:11
And that is that Ben may reach conclusions in his thinking that
9:14
I believe to be completely wrong.
9:18
And if you've been listening, you know that that is the case.
9:21
There is at least one major issue that he is wrong about.
9:27
And it's interesting to me because my father would have
9:33
taken a much different tact with me that I'm taking with him.
9:39
My determination with Ben is that you have the liberty to
9:43
decide something for yourself. You may get it wrong, but I'm
9:48
also taking the approach with him that you can read Marx if
9:52
you want. You can read Mein Kampf if you
9:55
want. You can read Der Stermer if you
9:57
want. I don't have to approve of that,
10:01
but I can discuss it, I can debate it, I can criticize it.
10:07
That's why we the idea of book banning is dangerous because we
10:12
which books are you going to ban?
10:15
The instant my argument becomes government should prevent you
10:18
from encountering it or even I should convince prevent you from
10:21
encountering it. I have stopped trying to
10:23
persuade you that that argument is wrong.
10:27
I have made the decision for you now maybe when you're 13, you
10:33
know, 12/11/10 and we used to have this argument about he
10:36
wanted to watch Titanic, but Ben was fascinated with Titanic when
10:39
he was younger. He wanted to watch the film
10:41
Titanic when he was like 8 or 9 years old.
10:43
I kept telling no, you need to wait until you're of age.
10:48
And now that he's of age, he has no interest in watching the film
10:51
Titanic, which pleases me I guess.
10:53
But at the same time there is an element to that.
10:56
What I tried to convince, what I'm trying to tell him is
11:00
liberty. Self determination means that
11:02
you have to be willing to accept that there are people who
11:06
disagree with you in their decision making.
11:10
And more importantly, when it comes to these banning of of
11:14
ideas and banning of books, you need to be able to discuss it
11:19
cogently, not just say, hey, you're wrong and shut everybody
11:24
down. And what I said to him was, if
11:26
you can't argue the other side's position, you don't have really
11:31
any business arguing with anybody about it.
11:34
Now, when it comes to book bans in the United States, how many
11:39
of you knew this during the 2025 and 2026 school year across the
11:44
country, 7300 books, 7300 books were banned in the United
11:57
States. You heard that right.
12:01
I didn't say 7000 books were banned in Communist China.
12:05
I didn't say 7000 books were banned in Islamic Iran.
12:09
I said 7300 books were banned in the United States.
12:16
Two states in particular led the overwhelming majority of this.
12:21
Want to take a guess as to where they were?
12:25
No, it was not Utah. Surprisingly, it was in fact
12:30
Texas and Florida. They are the overwhelming
12:34
majority of these book bans. Now the the term book ban of
12:40
course, is quite broad. Nobody can say to you, you can't
12:43
buy this book. This is situations in which
12:47
access is restricted or diminished, not simply the
12:50
government outlawing the possession of a book.
12:53
And that matters. Schools by necessity have to
12:57
curate libraries. It's it's a ridiculous idea that
13:01
libraries can just have every book in the world because you
13:03
wouldn't have room for it. Hell, I don't have room for all
13:06
the books I want. Even if I had my dream house,
13:12
you know, 68,000 feet of bookshelves, I couldn't have all
13:18
the books that I wanted. These books over here, you see
13:21
them on my shelf behind me over here.
13:23
The, the, the, the ones I'm pointing to.
13:26
If you're watching the video, those books right there are some
13:28
of the most precious books I have and I have spent the week
13:32
downloading them in electronic format because I'm tired of
13:36
lugging those around everywhere. I have carried those books
13:38
around with me since 1988. I don't have room for all this
13:43
stuff and libraries don't have room for it all either.
13:46
So when we talk about curating, that's one thing, but an
13:52
elementary school does not have an obligation to stock every
13:55
book and that's every published. And parents absolutely have the
13:59
authority to decide what their children would read.
14:02
But those qualifications don't eliminate the underlying
14:04
problem. Parental authority is not
14:07
censorship. And this is what I said to Ben.
14:09
If I say to you, I don't watch you, why aren't you watching
14:11
Titanic? That's not censorship, that's
14:14
parenting your 12 year old. But when I say your 12 year old
14:20
is not allowed to watch Titanic or read that book, that's a
14:23
different justification. Government should read this,
14:27
remove this idea because I consider it dangerous is
14:30
precisely the argument we as conservatives once recognized as
14:35
dangerous when we say that we're no longer conservatives.
14:41
You can soften it if you want and say, well, but it's not do
14:43
it gave. But we're not talking about
14:46
partisan equivalences here. We're talking about a principle.
14:50
And when the political right, when conservatives use
14:52
government power to suppress ideas because conservatives find
14:55
those ideas, ideas objectionable, we are doing
14:59
something. There's a word for it.
15:02
What does that word? Oh, yeah, evil.
15:06
Because censorship is evil. It attacks the moral agency of
15:10
another human being. It says I am so certain of my
15:14
judgement that I'm entitled to deprive you of yours.
15:19
And what does that mean? If I'm depriving you of your
15:22
judgement, I am taking away your liberty, your self
15:26
determination. And if you do it to me, you are
15:29
doing the same thing to me. Liberty can remain in our
15:33
vocabulary while completely disappearing from our habits,
15:36
from our hearts. It becomes a slogan that we
15:38
invoke but never examine. And that may be what's happening
15:44
here. Why we say liberty all the time,
15:47
but then we turn around and say, oh, we don't like these ideas.
15:51
Let's let's, let's ban those 'cause I don't, I don't like
15:53
that. Suppose my son encounters an
15:59
argument that I believe is is fake.
16:01
Now he already has, and you already know that.
16:04
What's my responsibility? At 12, one thing.
16:08
At 161718, That kind of shifts, doesn't it?
16:12
Do I make sure that he never hears that idea, or do I give
16:17
him intellectual tools to examine the idea?
16:21
The first requires authority, second requires parenting.
16:25
The first is much easier. It's much easier to say no, Ben,
16:28
you're not watching that Ben go to bed.
16:31
The second requires me to know why I believe what I believe and
16:35
to be able to explain it to him. And sometimes I may discover
16:40
that my own argument isn't as strong as I thought it was.
16:43
That's the benefit of free speech.
16:45
Bad ideas aren't the only ones tested by open debate.
16:49
Our ideas, our own ideas, are tested as well.
16:53
For those of you of the Christian faith, didn't Paul say
16:56
something to that effect? You know, you need to, you need
16:59
to study so that you you know what you're talking about.
17:03
The answer to bad speech is good speech.
17:06
The answer to book bans, it's more books.
17:10
In order to expose the law, to challenge the argument, you've
17:12
got to be able to provide evidence.
17:14
You've got to be able to teach the history of it.
17:16
You've got to be able to make the better case.
17:18
You have to be able to persuade, because persuasion recognizes
17:25
the other person's liberty. Censorship does not book bans.
17:33
Do not censorship book bans. Tell someone, hey, here's a
17:44
terrible book filled with really stupid ideas, they may never
17:50
read it. Tell them, hey, powerful people
17:54
don't want you reading this book now.
17:55
They want a copy. Particularly teenagers.
18:01
This is right out of Tom Sawyer. Nothing makes a fellow want
18:04
something so powerful as being told he can't have it.
18:08
Censorship changes the question. Before you censor the book,
18:11
before you ban the book, you ask the question, is this idea true?
18:15
Is this correct? After censorship?
18:18
It's Why don't they want me to hear this?
18:20
It's Candace Owens saying I'm just asking questions.
18:26
It's an extraordinary transformation.
18:28
The crank now becomes the dissident.
18:30
The propagandist becomes the forbidden truth teller.
18:34
The mediocre book that's poorly written and worse, edited
18:38
becomes forbidden. Knowledge suppression confers
18:43
importance, folks. When you ban these books, you're
18:48
telling everybody, hey, go read that because the government
18:52
doesn't want you to do it. Why don't they want you to do
18:54
it? What are you going to learn?
18:56
You've created a martyr is what you've done.
19:00
Ideas can can acquire cultural power precisely because someone
19:05
tried to kill them. It's better.
19:08
It's a better idea in my mind to drag bad ideas out into the
19:11
daylight, beat them with better ideas and then drive them
19:16
underground than than it is to drive them underground where
19:18
they where they become mythology and they become martyrs in the
19:24
same idea. Britain now has passed a bill
19:28
that will take effect in March of 2027 and that's this bill.
19:33
They are going to ban social media for 16 year olds and under
19:37
in in England. Britain.
19:41
Some have described this banned as a staging point towards a
19:45
more interventionist, interventionist state regulating
19:49
the online environment. Can you imagine what would
19:52
happen here if someone said we need a law sayings teenagers
19:57
cannot use TikTok anymore? Of course, the argument is
20:00
always won't someone think of the children?
20:03
Of course, that's how these things always begin.
20:06
The American Conservative says children must be protected from
20:09
dangerous books. The British government says
20:11
children must be protected from dangerous social media.
20:14
It's different political tribes, but it's exactly the same
20:16
temptation. Someone in authority decides
20:20
that protection requires controlling the information that
20:23
another person can encounter. And once you accept that
20:27
principle, the argument is no longer over whether government
20:31
should control information. Now we're merely negotiating
20:35
which information the government should control.
20:37
And that is a profoundly different society.
20:41
Welcome to 1984. There's a scene in the book
20:47
1984. It's not in the movie,
20:48
unfortunately. I wish it was.
20:50
I, I I often wonder if it made the if it was filmed and it just
20:54
made the cutting room floor, but who knows?
20:56
Winston sits down at a bar and he's talking to an old man
21:02
because he desperately wants the answer to a seemingly different,
21:06
seemingly simple question. Was life actually better before
21:10
the revolution or not? He talks to this man and it's a
21:15
fascinating conversation 'cause he can't get a useful answer.
21:17
The the historical record has been manipulated.
21:20
Personal memories, of course, are unreliable.
21:23
The evidence needed to independently test the party's
21:26
claims has completely disappeared.
21:28
And that's the danger of censorship.
21:30
That's the danger of banning books.
21:32
It doesn't simply remove an objectionable book.
21:35
It gradually changes the intellectual environment in
21:38
which people decide what is true.
21:43
You know that Mein Kampf is full of bad ideas.
21:48
What are they? I'll wait.
21:56
You haven't read it, have you? You tell me it's full of bad
21:59
ideas and it should be banned. What are those bad ideas?
22:04
If you can't compete, if you can't counter competing claims,
22:10
you cannot genuinely evaluate the approved claim.
22:13
You aren't agreeing, you're complying.
22:16
And compliance is not self determination.
22:19
It is not liberty. Liberty doesn't disappear all at
22:24
once, my friends. It erodes quietly until society
22:29
retains the word but loses the substance and it no longer is a
22:34
habit of the heart. We don't preserve liberty merely
22:38
by having a First Amendment. We preserve it by the developing
22:41
the habit of tolerating other people's self determination.
22:44
You don't have to like it. Even when it's irritating, Even
22:48
when they're wrong, even when their speech is offensive, even
22:52
when the book is disgusting, even when we desperately wish
22:55
that they would choose something differently.
22:57
And I wish my son would. I still think it's more
23:02
important to cultivate liberty and practice it until it becomes
23:05
second nature, and in and of itself it becomes the guidepost.
23:11
Censorship book bands have exactly the opposite effect.
23:15
They teach us that when something bothers you
23:17
sufficiently, find someone with authority to make it disappear.
23:24
Do that long enough and liberty ceases to be an instinct.
23:27
Authoritarianism becomes the instinct.
23:33
Ben asked me what I thought of book bans and I said it's not
23:38
that I'm against censorship, it's that I'm in favor of
23:43
liberty. And then I began to explain to
23:46
him what liberty means. Self determination.
23:50
It's the idea that you decide what ideas you will consider.
23:54
But the only way you can do that is if you actually understand
23:57
the ideas. The only way you can do that is
24:00
if you actually know what you're looking at and where the counter
24:06
arguments would be. My responsibility as your father
24:09
isn't to construct a world which you never encounter a bad idea.
24:12
My responsibility is to help you prepare for a time and a world
24:16
in which you inevitably will find those bad ideas.
24:22
Eventually I will not be standing there next to you.
24:25
I won't be here in the car with you, but there will be hundreds
24:29
if not thousands of hours of videos and audio where you can
24:33
go back and find out what I thought about anything.
24:37
I have always been free, and I mean to be free always, but that
24:42
requires me to understand liberty, not censorship.
25:33
Welcome back. Welcome back to Zai Dave.
25:35
I'm going to text me two, 09565 Dave, 209-565-3283.
25:41
You can leave me voicemails in there too.
25:43
E-mail Dave at the Dave bowmanshow.com So on Monday,
25:50
well, actually the story goes back to Friday, I got a call,
25:54
I'm in the middle of some stuff with the VA and I have to go to
25:57
appointments and the likes of that.
26:00
And one of the appointments they had me scheduled for was Monday
26:04
in Marysville. Now, the person who was doing
26:10
the scheduling was not familiar with the area, obviously not
26:12
looking at a map. And she says now, because it's
26:15
47 miles away, you know, we pay transportation.
26:18
And I was, and I'm trying to explain to her, look, it's 47
26:21
miles in a straight line. You can't get there in a
26:25
straight line. Well, why not?
26:28
And I look at a map. You either have to take a ferry
26:33
across the Puget Sound, or you got to drive all the way around,
26:36
in which case it's 100 miles around as opposed to 43, or you
26:42
got to take this ferry, which of course costs, you know, every
26:46
bit as much as it would for a tank of gas the other way.
26:50
And then I said to her, and here's the bigger problem.
26:53
This is a Monday. Your appointment is at 11:00,
26:57
which means that if I drive around, I have to drive past the
27:03
shipyard traffic here in Bremerton.
27:05
Then I got to drive through the Gig Harbor traffic getting over
27:08
the bridge into Tacoma. Then I got to drive through the
27:10
Tacoma traffic for the Portland split.
27:12
Then I got to drive through the South Seattle traffic at the
27:15
airport all the way through the downtown Seattle traffic on a
27:18
Monday morning. Keep in mind.
27:21
Then I got to go through the Edmunds traffic, the north side
27:24
of Seattle long before I ever get to Marysville.
27:28
We're talking about 100 mile drive that probably at that
27:31
point takes 4 hours just for fun.
27:38
I could look it up right now and just just for just for because
27:43
I'm Marysville, just cuz I have extra time here.
27:48
So let's see directions from my home.
27:55
Let's see if I drive right now, right this second.
28:01
And keep in mind we're not, we're at the tail end of rush
28:05
hour right now. If you take the ferry, it's a 2
28:09
hour drive. If you take, if you drive
28:11
around, it's a three hour and 10 minute drive right now.
28:14
And that's assuming you get no accidents, nothing else.
28:18
You know, it's it's California. So anyway, I said to this guy,
28:21
there's no way that I'm going to make an 11:00 appointment.
28:24
And the other side of this is I had some warning and I was
28:29
trying to explain to her, look, the ferries are very unreliable
28:33
right now. The ferries are problematic.
28:36
And she understood that, but she didn't really understand why.
28:41
And of course, on Monday morning we had a major ferry event,
28:45
which means that even if I had wanted to take the ferry to
28:48
Marysville, I couldn't because the Washington State Ferries
28:51
basically shut down on Monday because of, well, 23 engineers,
28:59
engine room crew called out sick.
29:03
There's 18 ferries. There's not a lot of crew on
29:06
each one of these ferries, engine room style.
29:08
But it basically put 13 of the 18 ferries out of out of work
29:14
and reduced the the two biggest routes, Bremerton to Seattle and
29:19
Bainbridge Island to Seattle. Instead of being 2 boats, you
29:22
know, you know, every every hour from Bremerton and every half
29:26
hour from Bainbridge, drop them to one boat each.
29:30
And even that wasn't necessarily going to work because you know
29:35
what happens if something breaks and so often happens, you, you
29:40
think to yourself, how did 23 people, 23 people basically
29:45
paralyze the transportation network in an entire area?
29:50
Of course these are unionized people.
29:53
And of course, the simple answer is to say, you know, Ronald
29:57
Reagan them and problem solved. But fairy engineers don't just
30:03
grow on trees, folks. I mean, you can't just say, OK,
30:06
you're fired next man up. There's no redundancy here.
30:11
There's no planning. Government always talks about
30:17
efficiency. In fact, our governor, Bob
30:19
Ferguson talks about, you know, efficiency all the time.
30:21
But the problem is the efficiency eventually meets the
30:30
road. Minimum staffing sounds
30:33
efficient, but having a lower payroll doesn't necessarily mean
30:40
that things are going to work. A multi $1,000,000 ferry sitting
30:44
at the dock because one required credential isn't to board the
30:48
ship. Now, the state ferry system
30:50
itself acknowledges that it needs to develop an entry level
30:53
program. If I were 30 years younger, I
30:57
might consider it. But you know, it's, it's, it's
31:03
hard. There's very little seemingly
31:05
there's very little cross training in all of this.
31:08
You know, on, on the boat, we didn't say, well, you know,
31:11
Dave's the only guy qualified to do that.
31:13
We hope he never gets sick. You qualify backups, you train
31:17
replacements, you build redundancy because the mission
31:20
has to continue. But that doesn't seem to apply
31:22
to this ferry system. Washington, by the way, is not
31:27
just ignoring the ferry system. They're not, they're not really
31:29
doing that. We're we're spending $6 billion
31:32
supposedly of of that $6 billion that we plan to spend, 1.68
31:37
billion has actually been spent. We're building hydroelectric or
31:42
hydro, the hybrid electric vessels.
31:45
But of course we're building them in Florida.
31:46
You know why? Because they're cheaper to build
31:48
in Florida than they are here, even though we're famous for our
31:53
shipbuilding. So we need 16 new ferries.
32:00
The system theoretically has been getting better.
32:02
But this goes back to the bigger problem, which is the government
32:07
is involved with all this stuff. The problem is the government is
32:12
trying to force its way into things and has put us in a
32:16
position where 23 people, 23 people can paralyze the entire
32:22
transportation network of the entire region.
32:25
And by the way, as I read this morning, there's still some
32:29
ferries that are out this morning.
32:31
So hence the two hour drive. I listen.
32:35
When I lived here in the 1980s, I could get from where I live
32:38
now, basically 2 1/2 miles up the road.
32:40
But I could get from where I am now to basically downtown
32:45
Seattle, just a little bit north of there in about an hour with
32:49
no problem. Now, the the transportation
32:53
network here is a nightmare and the ferry systems represent a
32:57
huge prior to that. But let us not forget that part
33:01
of the problem is that we fired a bunch of people on the ferry
33:06
system because they would not get the COVID vaccination, fired
33:11
them, fired a bunch of Washington state troopers
33:13
because they would not get the COVID vaccination, wouldn't get
33:15
those things. And then we turned around and
33:17
said, well, but you know, what do we care?
33:23
It's more important that we do this, right?
33:26
How'd that work out for us? Well, it worked out for us on
33:29
Monday in the sense that I ended up canceling that appointment
33:31
because there was no way in hell I was going to make it and I
33:34
wouldn't have. So far, it hasn't been
33:37
rescheduled. I'll keep you up to date.
33:40
Take the time right now. Tell the people that matter in
33:41
your life you love them very much.
33:42
You'd miss them if they weren't there.
33:43
So don't pass up those opportunities.
33:45
You don't want to have that regret plausibly live.
33:48
I'm Dave Bowman. We will see you next time right
33:51
here, possibly live the Dave Bowman Show on the on air across
33:56
American network. Have a great day everybody.
33:58
We'll see you next time.