Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 24 April 2025
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- 0:02Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight Early with one
- 0:08Speaker 1: room to make your property search simple us.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Dogs, it'd be good morning, welcome to Early Edition. I'm
- 0:14Speaker 2: Francesca Rudkin filling in for Brian Bridge this morning. Ryan's
- 0:17Speaker 2: going to be back with you on Monday. Gosh, here
- 0:19Speaker 2: we are Thursday and it's the end of the week already,
- 0:22Speaker 2: well for most of us. Good to have you with us.
- 0:24Speaker 2: You conflict me text anytime this morning on ninety two
- 0:26Speaker 2: ninety two, or you can email me at Francesca at
- 0:29Speaker 2: NEWSTALGSTV dot co dot MZ. On the show today, we
- 0:32Speaker 2: get the details on new protections that could see banks
- 0:35Speaker 2: required to reimburse fraud victims up to half a million dollars.
- 0:40Speaker 2: We seem to be getting over the stigma of using
- 0:42Speaker 2: AI with more people openly using it at work, but
- 0:45Speaker 2: what impact is it having on our jobs? And we
- 0:48Speaker 2: find out what the early childhood education sector thinks of
- 0:51Speaker 2: the government's new regulations for them.
- 0:55Speaker 1: The agenda.
- 0:56Speaker 2: It's Thursday, twenty fourth of April. First to the US
- 0:59Speaker 2: and Vice President J. D. Varnes has threatened to abandon
- 1:02Speaker 2: peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine if the US led
- 1:06Speaker 2: peace proposal is not accepted.
- 1:08Speaker 1: He issued a very explicit proposal to both the Russians
- 1:11Speaker 1: and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them to either
- 1:14Speaker 1: say yes or for the United States to walk away
- 1:16Speaker 1: from this process.
- 1:18Speaker 2: This comes as Secretary of State Marco Rubio withdrawals from
- 1:21Speaker 2: a major meeting in London aimed at bringing an end
- 1:24Speaker 2: to the war in Ukraine. Vance says the proposal would
- 1:26Speaker 2: freeze territorial lines at a level close to where they
- 1:29Speaker 2: are today. Elon Musk has announced the time he spends
- 1:33Speaker 2: on DOGE is going to decrease. It's going to drop significantly,
- 1:38Speaker 2: I would say. He says the role has taken his
- 1:40Speaker 2: eyes off Tessa, which has reported a huge drop and
- 1:43Speaker 2: profit and sales for the start of the year.
- 1:45Speaker 3: On Tuesday, Musk blasted his detractor, saying that his work
- 1:50Speaker 3: at DOGE is critical and that it is mostly done.
- 1:54Speaker 3: In his words, plans to spend quite a bit less
- 1:57Speaker 3: time on DOGE starting next month and.
- 2:00Speaker 2: To Rome and tens of thousands of queuing to pay
- 2:02Speaker 2: respects to Pope Francis.
- 2:04Speaker 4: It is not surprised that there are such massive crowds
- 2:07Speaker 4: in sam Peter Square throwing this morning to see the
- 2:09Speaker 4: remains of poor Francis in queues to get into ques
- 2:13Speaker 4: both with then Saint Peter's itself and outside in the square,
- 2:16Speaker 4: and indeed extending further down into the streets surrounding the
- 2:19Speaker 4: Square of Sam Peters.
- 2:20Speaker 2: Today the crowds are hopeful for just a short glimpse
- 2:23Speaker 2: of the two hundred and sixty sixth Bishop of Rome.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Of the two hundred thousand are expected to descend on
- 2:28Speaker 2: the Vatican the Saturdays of funeral and that's the agenda.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition. Where's one
- 2:37Speaker 1: roof to make your property search simple?
- 2:40Speaker 2: News talks it'd be I'm very interested to talk to
- 2:42Speaker 2: the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs, Scott Simpson this
- 2:45Speaker 2: morning about New Zealand Banking Association Association's new consumer protections
- 2:50Speaker 2: against fraud. They're going to roll these out over the
- 2:52Speaker 2: next seven months or so because we have been slow
- 2:56Speaker 2: in getting up to speed with battling scams in fraud.
- 3:00Speaker 2: The other hands, scammers, frauds does criminals that are siphoning
- 3:02Speaker 2: off hundreds of millions of dollars out in New Zealand
- 3:05Speaker 2: are just getting better at what they do. Banks have
- 3:08Speaker 2: claimed to have state of the art banking prevention, but
- 3:10Speaker 2: we are behind what other countries have implemented. And you
- 3:14Speaker 2: only have to look at some of the scams and
- 3:16Speaker 2: you can see there are gaps where by the bank
- 3:18Speaker 2: could have picked up a red flag and a transaction.
- 3:21Speaker 2: So look, anyway that we can reduce risk the better, right.
- 3:25Speaker 2: One of the things that they've done is release this
- 3:26Speaker 2: confirmation of pay your service. Have you used that? Have
- 3:28Speaker 2: you had to put a new paye in and use this?
- 3:31Speaker 2: I haven't been hugely impressed with it. It is, of
- 3:35Speaker 2: course for customers to check that the name of the
- 3:38Speaker 2: person they are paying matches the account number. It's a
- 3:40Speaker 2: really good idea, but it doesn't work because no one
- 3:44Speaker 2: gives you both the name of the company or the
- 3:48Speaker 2: name of the account and then the nickname of the account.
- 3:50Speaker 2: So I've done it about five times and not once
- 3:53Speaker 2: have they matched. And then of course we're all paranoid
- 3:58Speaker 2: because we don't want the headline to read. You know,
- 4:00Speaker 2: radio host just ignores the new you know, the new
- 4:07Speaker 2: protections put in place, and you know, sends money to
- 4:10Speaker 2: someone they shouldn't have. So then the next thing you know,
- 4:12Speaker 2: you're on the phone, you're ringing the people you're trying
- 4:15Speaker 2: to make as a payee and you're confirming it and
- 4:17Speaker 2: they're saying to you, oh yeah, we're getting lots of
- 4:19Speaker 2: calls about this. Anyway, it loses its power if we're
- 4:22Speaker 2: not using it correctly. So businesses need to be up
- 4:24Speaker 2: to speed with the information they provide, providing you with
- 4:27Speaker 2: those key bits of information so when you put it
- 4:30Speaker 2: in and you click the button, it goes, yes, you've
- 4:33Speaker 2: got the right person. Anyway, new commitments from banks mean
- 4:37Speaker 2: that if a bank fails to adequately warn and protect
- 4:40Speaker 2: a consumer from a scam, they will reimburse the victim
- 4:43Speaker 2: up to five hundred thousand. And this is excellent news,
- 4:46Speaker 2: but it's not going to help everyone and banks shouldn't
- 4:49Speaker 2: be responsible across the board if you lose money and
- 4:53Speaker 2: a scam. Being scammed is horrific. It's traumatic and life
- 4:58Speaker 2: changing for people. And they may have done things right,
- 5:02Speaker 2: you know, done their due diligence, ticked the boxes and
- 5:05Speaker 2: yet still got conned. But the bank can only be
- 5:09Speaker 2: responsible for their part in it if they had a
- 5:11Speaker 2: part in it and other words, failed to prevent it
- 5:14Speaker 2: when they could have. So to be honest, this does
- 5:17Speaker 2: sound like a fair approach. We're going to talk more
- 5:20Speaker 2: about this shortly. Can you hear your thoughts though? Does
- 5:23Speaker 2: that make you feel a little bit more comfortable that
- 5:25Speaker 2: the banks are stepping up and also that there's a
- 5:28Speaker 2: potential that you will be reimbursed if the bank's mister
- 5:32Speaker 2: mister step in things and you lose your money. Ninety
- 5:36Speaker 2: two ninety two is the text you're with Early edition.
- 5:39Speaker 2: It airs at twelve past five.
- 5:41Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust has done Your day is
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- 5:48Speaker 2: News Dogs that be fourteen past five. So as I
- 5:52Speaker 2: was just talking about, Banks will be required to reimburse
- 5:55Speaker 2: fraud victims up to half a million dollars under the
- 5:57Speaker 2: new scam protections. The suite of measures also includes providing
- 6:00Speaker 2: a twenty four to seven scam reporting channel and banks
- 6:03Speaker 2: during information on scammers with each other to help prevent
- 6:06Speaker 2: criminal activity. The changes will be delivered through an update
- 6:09Speaker 2: to the Code of Banking Practice. Minister of Commerce and
- 6:11Speaker 2: Consumer Affairs Scott Simpson joins me. Now, thanks for your time, Scott,
- 6:15Speaker 2: Good morning.
- 6:16Speaker 5: Good morning, Francesco.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Okay, how involved were you in creating these protections?
- 6:21Speaker 5: Well, our government's been urging banks take a greater responsibility
- 6:25Speaker 5: for protecting their customers for some time. So I'm the
- 6:29Speaker 5: government's lead on anti scams as Minister, and it's work
- 6:34Speaker 5: that I and my predecessor have been doing now for
- 6:37Speaker 5: well since this government came to office.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Who is eligible for compensation if a bank fails to
- 6:42Speaker 2: meet these new protection commitments.
- 6:45Speaker 5: Well, bank customers that meet certain criteria. And this is
- 6:49Speaker 5: not a regime that's going to mean that everybody has covered,
- 6:54Speaker 5: but that will mean, for instance, that if you take
- 6:57Speaker 5: responsibility for your online transactions, your banking transactions in a
- 7:02Speaker 5: way that is careful, prudent and responsible, the banks will
- 7:07Speaker 5: cover you if they have let you down as their
- 7:10Speaker 5: banking provider if you've been scammed.
- 7:13Speaker 2: How effective has the confirmation of paye system been already,
- 7:16Speaker 2: because that the rollout of that's already been completed. And
- 7:18Speaker 2: I was just making the comment there that you know
- 7:21Speaker 2: it's not working at the moment because businesses aren't aware
- 7:24Speaker 2: that they need to give the account owner's name and
- 7:27Speaker 2: then a nickname. So every time I do it, it
- 7:28Speaker 2: doesn't match up. Scott.
- 7:31Speaker 5: Ironically, Francesca, every time you use it it gets better
- 7:35Speaker 5: because it's exactly those sorts of things. So over a
- 7:38Speaker 5: period of time, for instance, if someone wants to send
- 7:42Speaker 5: me some money as Scott Simpson, or maybe my bank
- 7:46Speaker 5: account is s Simpson, that isn't a complete match. But
- 7:49Speaker 5: over time the banks get better at it. Now not
- 7:52Speaker 5: every bank is up to speed with it completely yet.
- 7:55Speaker 5: That's part of the reason why these new initiatives don't
- 7:57Speaker 5: come fully into effect until the end of November. It's
- 8:00Speaker 5: in order to allow banks time to get the processes
- 8:04Speaker 5: and the technology in place to have it up and
- 8:07Speaker 5: running completely.
- 8:08Speaker 2: And to be fair, Scott, that's a user issue, not
- 8:10Speaker 2: necessarily the system issue. It's just us getting used to it,
- 8:13Speaker 2: isn't it.
- 8:13Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Look having a look at the list of these measures,
- 8:17Speaker 2: I mean, banks are already doing some of these things,
- 8:20Speaker 2: aren't they. They're already sort of you know, shutting down
- 8:23Speaker 2: if they see a dodgy looking transaction and things. So
- 8:27Speaker 2: putting these measures officially in place, is it actually more
- 8:30Speaker 2: about allowing customers to hold banks to account.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Yes, it will hold banks to account. But remember, in
- 8:39Speaker 5: the scam ecosystem, banks aren't the only player. There are
- 8:44Speaker 5: digital platform form providers who are the providers that allow
- 8:49Speaker 5: the scam. Sometimes to work. There are the telco companies
- 8:53Speaker 5: that allow messages to be sent over their networks, So
- 8:58Speaker 5: I want the other player in the scam ecosystem to
- 9:02Speaker 5: step up in the same way that banks have done.
- 9:05Speaker 5: They put a role to play as well, and I'm
- 9:07Speaker 5: hoping that we can get a similar set of protocols
- 9:10Speaker 5: from the telco companies and the digital platform providers as well.
- 9:14Speaker 2: So you're happy with what the banks have come up
- 9:15Speaker 2: with here or would you like them to continue sort
- 9:18Speaker 2: of moving forward in the space.
- 9:21Speaker 5: Well, this isn't a silver bullet. Scams are very prevalent.
- 9:26Speaker 5: Scammers are very clever, they're very persistent, they're very energetic.
- 9:29Speaker 5: So this isn't going to stop all scams, but it
- 9:32Speaker 5: is a very big step forward. I'm delighted that the
- 9:35Speaker 5: banks have taken this initiative in conjunction government. It's a
- 9:38Speaker 5: very good step. I want others to do the same
- 9:41Speaker 5: sort of thing. But it just means that people still
- 9:43Speaker 5: have to be careful, they still have to be prudent,
- 9:45Speaker 5: and they still have to be alert and aware of
- 9:47Speaker 5: what they're doing in terms of their banking transactions and
- 9:50Speaker 5: their digital interactions and the interactions they have with their
- 9:53Speaker 5: telco companies as well.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Scott, thanks so much for your time this morning. That
- 9:57Speaker 2: was the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs to hear
- 10:00Speaker 2: what you think about the actions that the bank have taken.
- 10:03Speaker 2: You can text on ninety two ninety two right. Ninety
- 10:06Speaker 2: one percent of keyp WE workers are using generative AI
- 10:10Speaker 2: to assist them in their day to day tasks and
- 10:12Speaker 2: apparently we're really open about it now, we're all admitting it.
- 10:14Speaker 2: We find out what impact though it might be having
- 10:17Speaker 2: on the importance of human employees. Next, it is eighteen
- 10:20Speaker 2: past five.
- 10:21Speaker 1: You with early edition, Rely edition with one roof I
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- 10:29Speaker 2: It's twenty past five. New research from Robert Harf finds
- 10:32Speaker 2: ninety one percent of workers are using AI to help
- 10:34Speaker 2: with their day to day tasks and ninety three percent
- 10:37Speaker 2: are open with their higher ups about using it, but
- 10:40Speaker 2: as it reducing the importance of human employees. Tech commentator
- 10:43Speaker 2: Oscar how is with us this morning?
- 10:45Speaker 6: Good morning, Oscar, morning Francesca, thank you for having me on.
- 10:49Speaker 2: It used to be seen as almost cheating, didn't it.
- 10:51Speaker 2: We sort of hit the fact that we might be
- 10:52Speaker 2: using AI, but is the perception of AI changing.
- 10:56Speaker 6: I think so. I think a lot of employees, especially
- 10:59Speaker 6: in traditional desk rolls, really opening themselves up to using
- 11:04Speaker 6: AI and their daily jobs, and they're not afraid to
- 11:07Speaker 6: be talking with their managers about it.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Why are we suddenly so open about using it?
- 11:12Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 11:13Speaker 6: There was almost a shift in the culture. Really, a
- 11:15Speaker 6: new research out of Robert Half of the crypt agency
- 11:19Speaker 6: you mentioned fifty six are using it on a daily
- 11:22Speaker 6: or near daily basis. You know, maybe the advancement of
- 11:25Speaker 6: some of these AI tools that were seeing are making it,
- 11:28Speaker 6: you know, are making their workloads so their ability to
- 11:32Speaker 6: work so efficient that it's something that you kind of
- 11:34Speaker 6: just have to bring up, you know. I mean, if
- 11:36Speaker 6: you can turn around a report in thirty seconds that
- 11:39Speaker 6: might have taken you a week, perhaps your manager may
- 11:41Speaker 6: have started off in questions, so it might be it
- 11:43Speaker 6: might pay to be forthright in these situations.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've been told by a few HR
- 11:49Speaker 2: people that actually, these days, you know, they are looking
- 11:52Speaker 2: for people who understand how to use it, as opposed
- 11:55Speaker 2: to once upon a time, you know, implying that you know,
- 12:00Speaker 2: kind of cheating on your job.
- 12:01Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 12:02Speaker 6: No, I think it's becoming a real staple of a
- 12:06Speaker 6: lot of desk jobs. And I think, like you mentioned,
- 12:09Speaker 6: businesses are looking for people who have more than just
- 12:12Speaker 6: a cursory understanding of how AI works. Obviously, it's allowing
- 12:15Speaker 6: people to become more efficient. It's allowing them to get
- 12:18Speaker 6: their work done quicker and takes a lot of the
- 12:21Speaker 6: workload off. And yeah, I mean there's also the fact
- 12:24Speaker 6: that it can help, you know, having an understanding of
- 12:27Speaker 6: AI can help you, you know, spot scams, spot when
- 12:31Speaker 6: it's used maybe not so well. And yeah, I think
- 12:35Speaker 6: it's just improving people's ability to work.
- 12:38Speaker 2: What are the impacts of such a huge increase? Are
- 12:40Speaker 2: we putting jobs at risk?
- 12:43Speaker 6: I mean, that seems to be the fear at the moment,
- 12:46Speaker 6: right And I almost wonder if a lot of these
- 12:48Speaker 6: people who are upskilling in the use of AI might
- 12:51Speaker 6: be doing so with that understanding that perhaps, you know,
- 12:53Speaker 6: if they're not on top of things, will maybe coming
- 12:57Speaker 6: to their jobs. I mean, at this point, eight percent
- 13:00Speaker 6: of work are sampled in this survey said that they
- 13:04Speaker 6: think it's necessary for career success in the future. And yeah,
- 13:07Speaker 6: I tend to agree because I mean, if you, like
- 13:09Speaker 6: I said, like we said, it's so powerful and it
- 13:11Speaker 6: can turn around a lot of these creative or desk
- 13:13Speaker 6: roll you know, for a lot of these jobs. That
- 13:16Speaker 6: can turn around a lot of this work so quickly. Yeah,
- 13:19Speaker 6: I think there's a real possibility that some of these
- 13:22Speaker 6: roles might find themselves outpaced by technology in the next
- 13:25Speaker 6: few years.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Oscar, thank you so much for your thoughts this morning.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. And of course we were talking yesterday
- 13:30Speaker 2: about the Oscars and how they've mentioned that, you know,
- 13:33Speaker 2: if you happen to use AI in your film, that
- 13:36Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you won't win an Oscar. You were
- 13:38Speaker 2: still eligible and have an opportunity to win one of
- 13:40Speaker 2: the big Oscars. The reason they had to say that
- 13:42Speaker 2: was because actually, somewhere along the line in Hollywood, when
- 13:46Speaker 2: someone makes a film, AI is being used, whether it's
- 13:48Speaker 2: being used in the production stage and the post production stage,
- 13:52Speaker 2: Somewhere along the way, everybody's quietly using it. They didn't
- 13:56Speaker 2: want to admit it, but they are actually all quietly
- 13:59Speaker 2: using it in different ways. It is twenty four past five.
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- 14:10Speaker 2: It's twenty six past five. Sometimes being the grown up
- 14:14Speaker 2: in the room is deeply unfulfilling. Pragmatic, sensible, considering consequences,
- 14:20Speaker 2: taking a long term view. They're all good, admirable words,
- 14:23Speaker 2: and we should take some solace in them. But sometimes
- 14:25Speaker 2: I think we'd rather just throw a plate at the wall.
- 14:28Speaker 2: And so it is with the government's response yesterday to
- 14:31Speaker 2: the Trump tariffs, essentially to roll over and take it. Understandable, sure, sensible, yep. Frustrating,
- 14:37Speaker 2: very The government confirmed we're not in the queue to
- 14:40Speaker 2: negotiate a trade deal with President Trump's administration, nor are
- 14:43Speaker 2: we interested in taking legal action over it, and the
- 14:45Speaker 2: tariff hit will come after export has had an excellent
- 14:48Speaker 2: March and it's a shame the party music has had
- 14:51Speaker 2: a bum note. We want the growth, we want good
- 14:53Speaker 2: export news, but without the dark tariff cloud lingering in
- 14:57Speaker 2: the distance. As Trade Minister Todd mcla yesterday, we probably
- 15:01Speaker 2: couldn't negotiate between below the current ten percent rate, and
- 15:04Speaker 2: the legal process would be a long winded affair that
- 15:06Speaker 2: would probably go nowhere. And I'm presuming, like the majority
- 15:10Speaker 2: of us who aren't diplomats and haven't been in a
- 15:12Speaker 2: room negotiating a trade deal. This is a well considered plan,
- 15:15Speaker 2: one based on experience and insider information, but perhaps also
- 15:18Speaker 2: because making a fast good have unintended consequences and result
- 15:22Speaker 2: in even higher tariffs. It also makes sense to keep
- 15:26Speaker 2: our head down into our two biggest trading partners, China
- 15:29Speaker 2: and US have sorted out their own tiff. We need
- 15:32Speaker 2: to ensure both of feeling valued by US and not
- 15:34Speaker 2: be seen to take sides as we focus on growing
- 15:37Speaker 2: our trade markets. Will the plate throwers get sensible? Trump
- 15:42Speaker 2: stated during a White House a White House news conference
- 15:45Speaker 2: that the final tariff rate with China would come down
- 15:48Speaker 2: substantially from the current one hundred and forty forty five percent.
- 15:52Speaker 2: He said the US would be very nice to China
- 15:55Speaker 2: and not play hardball. Trump's remarks towards China come on
- 15:59Speaker 2: the same day that i AM released a new report
- 16:01Speaker 2: showing the United States faces the biggest downgrade among advanced
- 16:05Speaker 2: countries due to the increase in tarists and the uncertainty
- 16:08Speaker 2: of cause. The IMF predicts the US economy will grow
- 16:11Speaker 2: one point eight percent this year, down from the estimated
- 16:14Speaker 2: two point seven percent, and there's a forty percent chance
- 16:16Speaker 2: of recession. So as this a case, of Trump blinking
- 16:21Speaker 2: and a first sign of some steps towards stabilizing global trade.
- 16:25Speaker 2: This as a move by Trump to calm the nerves.
- 16:27Speaker 2: The markets short responded well to both Trump's tariff call
- 16:30Speaker 2: on China and his remarks he has no intention of
- 16:33Speaker 2: firing the Federal Reserve chair. I don't think anyone knows
- 16:40Speaker 2: what's to come next or how Trump will respond to
- 16:42Speaker 2: Chinese social media hashtags such as Trump admitted defeat. But
- 16:47Speaker 2: I much prefer the adult Trump rather than the one
- 16:50Speaker 2: throwing plates. In the meantime, New Zealand shall remain patient
- 16:54Speaker 2: and diplomatic, settle in and see what change may occur
- 16:58Speaker 2: again before the ninety day pause is up. Francesca, it's
- 17:05Speaker 2: a little bit like the market yesterday. Did you did
- 17:08Speaker 2: you have a sort of a bit of a sigh
- 17:09Speaker 2: of relief from Trump's comments? I mean, we know it
- 17:12Speaker 2: is hard to predict what will come next, but do
- 17:14Speaker 2: you feel like there might be some light at the
- 17:16Speaker 2: end of the tunnel when it comes to settling these
- 17:19Speaker 2: trade walls? Or you're not holding your breath? You might
- 17:23Speaker 2: as welcome to text me on ninety two ninety two
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- 18:12Speaker 2: This is early edition on Newstalks. They'd be I'm Francisca
- 18:15Speaker 2: Udkins filling in for Ryan today. Thanks for being with
- 18:17Speaker 2: us and the next half hour. Elon Musk has finally
- 18:19Speaker 2: given into the call from Tesla to return to the company.
- 18:22Speaker 2: What does this mean for DOGE? And the Ministry for
- 18:24Speaker 2: Regulation has done a review into early childhood sector. The
- 18:28Speaker 2: government recognizes that the current regulation system is outdated and overburdensome,
- 18:33Speaker 2: and the sector agrees, but there is some concern from
- 18:36Speaker 2: the sector about the lack of detail and some of
- 18:38Speaker 2: the recommendations, in particular around the qualifications teachers will need.
- 18:42Speaker 2: They don't want to see a less qualified workforce and
- 18:45Speaker 2: I'm sure that parents don't either. So we're going to
- 18:48Speaker 2: talk more about this before the end of the hour.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your feedback. Someone said, the
- 18:54Speaker 2: beneficiaries don't give you that going back to the banks
- 18:57Speaker 2: and the pay confirmation, the beneficiaries don't give you the
- 18:59Speaker 2: nick that's the name you create to remember the beneficiary.
- 19:02Speaker 2: It's just the count name and number. Yeah. No, I
- 19:04Speaker 2: did get to that point and I put that in
- 19:06Speaker 2: and it's still didn't work. And when I contacted each
- 19:08Speaker 2: of the pay the paye that I was firing trying
- 19:11Speaker 2: to fire the money off to, they gave me a
- 19:13Speaker 2: completely different account name. So I think it's just it's
- 19:16Speaker 2: says we're all don't worry. As I said, it's user
- 19:19Speaker 2: error on my behalf as well. It took me a
- 19:21Speaker 2: while to get there, and but you know, I was
- 19:23Speaker 2: trying to set up a payment for a university hall
- 19:26Speaker 2: and when I rang them, the first thing I said
- 19:27Speaker 2: it was, oh, yeah, we're getting this all the time.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Here we go, here's the correct here's used this name.
- 19:32Speaker 2: And they gave me a completely different company account name
- 19:35Speaker 2: and it worked brilliantly, but nowhere was it to be
- 19:37Speaker 2: seen on the original voys. Anyway, thank you very much
- 19:39Speaker 2: for your feedback. You can keep the text coming. On
- 19:42Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two, it is twenty one to.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Six News Talk said be.
- 19:49Speaker 2: Right joining me now, we're going to head around the
- 19:52Speaker 2: company and joining me now from Dunedin is Michael Sirkle.
- 19:54Speaker 2: Good morning, good morning, and we've got the world's smallest
- 19:57Speaker 2: penguins and making history.
- 19:58Speaker 8: In Olmu, so called Blue Penguin Colony has begun laying
- 20:02Speaker 8: eggs almost three months earlier than usual. This apparently indicates
- 20:06Speaker 8: a healthy and successful marine environment. This is a first
- 20:09Speaker 8: for the local colony and it's only the second time
- 20:11Speaker 8: it's ever been recorded in the whole country. The public's
- 20:14Speaker 8: being urged to tack here though, after a male penguin
- 20:17Speaker 8: was found dead after getting tangled in a discarding fishing line.
- 20:20Speaker 8: It was found near the popular fishing spot Homes Wharf
- 20:23Speaker 8: a few days before Easter and unfortunately had to be
- 20:26Speaker 8: out put down.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Oh that is sad news. What's stone Edin's weather today, Michael?
- 20:30Speaker 8: Oh it's a nice one, fine like Win's fourteen degrees beautiful.
- 20:33Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And joining us now from Christchurch
- 20:35Speaker 2: is Claire Sherwood. How are you, Claire?
- 20:37Speaker 9: Good morning.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Now. Twenty names, only twenty names have been drawn from
- 20:42Speaker 2: hundreds of hopefuls to be the first to step inside
- 20:44Speaker 2: the new stadium.
- 20:46Speaker 9: Yes that's right, Francesca. In fact, one thy six hundred
- 20:49Speaker 9: and sixteen hopefuls tried to get a chance to look
- 20:52Speaker 9: at the new stadium, but twenty people have been drawn.
- 20:55Speaker 9: One new Zealand Stadium at Takaha will open to this
- 20:57Speaker 9: very exclusive group, which was literally drawn from a hat
- 21:00Speaker 9: for next month's Open christ Church Festival.
- 21:03Speaker 10: Now.
- 21:03Speaker 9: Raylen Palmer is one of them. We spoke to her yesterday.
- 21:06Speaker 9: She can't believe she'll be one of the first, outside
- 21:09Speaker 9: of of course construction staff and officials. She says, it
- 21:12Speaker 9: has been amazing, like many of us, to watch it
- 21:14Speaker 9: grow throughout construction. It's quite nice for Raylein. She actually
- 21:18Speaker 9: worked for the Crusaders for seven years, so she saw
- 21:21Speaker 9: it throughout the earthquakes and the temporary stadium being built,
- 21:24Speaker 9: so to be able to see the new one feels
- 21:26Speaker 9: like a full circle moment. Experts will also be there.
- 21:29Speaker 9: It's going to be a one hour guided tour on
- 21:31Speaker 9: May four.
- 21:32Speaker 2: What about the media? Clear have you got on there?
- 21:34Speaker 6: No?
- 21:34Speaker 2: Not even us? Okay, seems rough and the weather today.
- 21:38Speaker 9: In christ Church frosty to start, it will clear to
- 21:40Speaker 9: a fine day light winds and fourteen and Max.
- 21:43Speaker 2: Toll is with us and Wellington. Good morning Max. You
- 21:46Speaker 2: got a bit of an a shoe with some in sex.
- 21:48Speaker 11: Yeah, a interesting story here. Residents in a Wellington coastal
- 21:53Speaker 11: suburb complaining about an infestation of millipedes that has even
- 21:58Speaker 11: made some express regret and buying in the area. This
- 22:02Speaker 11: is orfeedo or Bay, which is just around from Island Bay.
- 22:06Speaker 6: It's seeing a.
- 22:07Speaker 11: Massive surge in Portuguese millipedes, which enter homes at night
- 22:10Speaker 11: in the hundreds. They're attracted to light. The regional council
- 22:13Speaker 11: reportedly doesn't have any immediate plans to tackle the problem.
- 22:17Speaker 11: We spoke to a local who complains that these millipedes
- 22:20Speaker 11: and they come into the house, they excrete, a smelly
- 22:23Speaker 11: liquid that stains the floor. Doors and windows blocked with
- 22:27Speaker 11: towels don't help either. Really bad problem for about two
- 22:31Speaker 11: months now, apparently.
- 22:32Speaker 2: I've just googled them. They're not particularly cute either.
- 22:35Speaker 11: Not close up.
- 22:35Speaker 2: No, no, not really. Wellington's weather today.
- 22:38Speaker 11: Max mostly fine today, light winds peaking in the mid teens.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Thank you so much. And neither writty man who joins
- 22:44Speaker 2: me out of the studio, so we've both got the
- 22:48Speaker 2: kick was explaining the millipede issue got to me. I know,
- 22:53Speaker 2: I had no idea, No, because they're tiny, powerful, powerful
- 22:59Speaker 2: and okay neither An Auckland restaurant has had its food
- 23:04Speaker 2: grade lower to a d after a person shared video
- 23:06Speaker 2: of and here we are laughing at Wellington's story. A
- 23:10Speaker 2: person shared video of fish dry on a clothesline.
- 23:14Speaker 12: It's like going for one stupid store in Wellington to
- 23:16Speaker 12: a stupid story.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Here in Auckland, we've got a long weekend.
- 23:19Speaker 12: Oh I'm glad too, So yes, you're right, Francesca. So
- 23:22Speaker 12: this video shows dozens of fish while it's hanging from
- 23:26Speaker 12: stainless steel hooks. That's right on a clothesline in a backyard. Now,
- 23:30Speaker 12: the owner of Mount Albert Barbecue noodle House nine three
- 23:35Speaker 12: two claims that the fish isn't there is and actually
- 23:37Speaker 12: belongs to a neighbor who was using it for personal consumption.
- 23:41Speaker 12: So this is not to be confused, because apparently that
- 23:45Speaker 12: there's another Mount Albert Barbecue noodle House and it's right
- 23:49Speaker 12: next door and it's nine three zero. The cousins, they're cousins,
- 23:52Speaker 12: and so they both claim to be you know, the
- 23:54Speaker 12: original noodle house. But this one here, who's been you know,
- 23:58Speaker 12: like slept over the knuckle, is nine three two. So
- 24:02Speaker 12: what they've done is that the Auckland Council they've issued
- 24:05Speaker 12: them with the notice and they've said, look, this is not.
- 24:08Speaker 13: Acceptable to dry any food in this way. Well you'd
- 24:11Speaker 13: think not, eh.
- 24:12Speaker 2: Do you think your cloth it smellab it? If you
- 24:14Speaker 2: use this line after you just pegged on your T
- 24:17Speaker 2: shirt and the edgin and.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Even just aren't my things?
- 24:20Speaker 13: The flies everything that will be you know, that would
- 24:23Speaker 13: be coming around, you know if you've got them on
- 24:25Speaker 13: the clothes line and you've got the fish hanging there,
- 24:28Speaker 13: wouldn't you think of all the insects and the flies
- 24:30Speaker 13: and what are though the millipedes? And from Wellington? What
- 24:33Speaker 13: big jumping on the clothesline there? Goodness my right up.
- 24:37Speaker 2: Auckland's weather today fine but cloud early morning. Twenty is
- 24:41Speaker 2: the high here neither. Thank you very much. Have a
- 24:44Speaker 2: lovely long weekend. Next up we are after the US.
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- 25:48Speaker 14: Good morning match, Good morning, Francisca.
- 25:50Speaker 6: How are you.
- 25:50Speaker 2: I'm very good. Thank you. So Tesla has finally drawn
- 25:53Speaker 2: Elon Musk back into the fold.
- 25:56Speaker 14: Yeah, that's right, And the reason for that, perhaps is
- 25:58Speaker 14: that a report it's first called earnings yesterday. Tesla are
- 26:02Speaker 14: the electric vehicle maker, and it wasn't good. In fact,
- 26:06Speaker 14: it was billions of dollars short of what Wall Street
- 26:08Speaker 14: had actually predicted. Over the last couple of months, Tesla
- 26:11Speaker 14: stock has fallen immensely. Right sales have been lagging in
- 26:16Speaker 14: Europe and the United States, but also people have been
- 26:19Speaker 14: attacking dealerships because of Elon Musk's role in the Trump administration. Now,
- 26:24Speaker 14: in an earnings call yesterday with investors, Musk said in
- 26:27Speaker 14: May he will be spending significantly less time in the
- 26:30Speaker 14: White House as he goes back to work for the company.
- 26:33Speaker 14: He says he'll still be working for Donald Trump whenn't required,
- 26:36Speaker 14: but that might only be one or two days a week.
- 26:39Speaker 2: Now.
- 26:39Speaker 14: As a result of that, Tesla's share price has been soaring.
- 26:43Speaker 14: It was up seven percent at one point this morning,
- 26:45Speaker 14: Investors happy he might be leaving the White House.
- 26:48Speaker 2: Match sure, yeah, really quickly. It looks like they could
- 26:51Speaker 2: potentially be a deal between the US and China. And gosh,
- 26:54Speaker 2: the markets loved this news, didn't they.
- 26:56Speaker 14: Yeah, it could be getting close to the Treasury Secretary
- 26:59Speaker 14: this morning. There's an opportunity for a big deal here.
- 27:02Speaker 14: And the Wall Street Journal reports so that terifright of
- 27:05Speaker 14: a whopping one hundred and forty five percent on China
- 27:07Speaker 14: from the US could come down to around sixty percent.
- 27:11Speaker 14: The markets of loving it been loving it. At one
- 27:13Speaker 14: point today the Dow Jones was up one thousand points.
- 27:16Speaker 14: So finally, Francesca some good news on the markets here
- 27:19Speaker 14: in New York.
- 27:19Speaker 2: Thank you much. Nice to catch up right. Concern from
- 27:26Speaker 2: early childhood educators that proposed reforms would put business over children.
- 27:30Speaker 2: The government has recognized that current ECE regulations are outdated,
- 27:35Speaker 2: but the sector says changes could love with the standard
- 27:37Speaker 2: of teachers. Early Childhood New Zealand CEO Kathy Wolf is
- 27:40Speaker 2: with me now, thanks for your time this morning.
- 27:42Speaker 7: Kathy Mariner.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Do you feel listen to from the results of this
- 27:46Speaker 2: review where you're happy with the general gist of it.
- 27:50Speaker 7: We will look we call for the review and the
- 27:52Speaker 7: general gist of it in terms of addressing some of
- 27:54Speaker 7: the cumbersome and complicated processes and overburdened some administration, Yep,
- 27:59Speaker 7: there's good things from there. However, some of the recommendations
- 28:05Speaker 7: are nine and definitely recommendation ten is something that we
- 28:08Speaker 7: are not very happy about at.
- 28:09Speaker 2: All, and you came from more detail on this. How
- 28:12Speaker 2: concerned would a move away from qualified teachers be.
- 28:16Speaker 7: Very concerning qualified teachers are trained to educate our youngest
- 28:22Speaker 7: children and they understand the development emotionally and intellectually for
- 28:29Speaker 7: children from a vreative five and for school children to
- 28:34Speaker 7: be prepared for school. They need that education and the
- 28:37Speaker 7: qualified teacher is what is required to provide them that education.
- 28:40Speaker 2: And why do you think there would be a move
- 28:42Speaker 2: away from this? What's the reasoning behind it?
- 28:47Speaker 7: It's mostly about fundings. They're also saying it is around
- 28:51Speaker 7: teacher shortages, but there's absolutely no link to teacher shortages
- 28:56Speaker 7: and qualifications. The cause and effect of teacher shortages is
- 28:59Speaker 7: that we just haven't had a decent workforce strategy that
- 29:04Speaker 7: managers supplying the month.
- 29:07Speaker 2: How do you want to see the balance between business
- 29:08Speaker 2: and children stuck struck here when it comes to looking
- 29:11Speaker 2: at these reforms.
- 29:13Speaker 7: Look, every early childhood service is a business, whether you're
- 29:16Speaker 7: in community based service or a for profit service. At
- 29:19Speaker 7: the end of the day, you've got to run a
- 29:21Speaker 7: viable business in order to give back to the ken community,
- 29:24Speaker 7: but also make sure children are educated well. So you know,
- 29:29Speaker 7: and we're also publicly funded and we have to be
- 29:31Speaker 7: accountable for that public funding. So for us, it is
- 29:35Speaker 7: really important that that is the key thing about the
- 29:39Speaker 7: public good and upholding the public good of education and
- 29:42Speaker 7: at each other.
- 29:43Speaker 2: Because it was a long it was it was quite
- 29:44Speaker 2: a fight. Wasn't it a while ago to get you know,
- 29:47Speaker 2: more qualified teachers into early childhood education. I can remember that,
- 29:51Speaker 2: and of course the big at that time, the big
- 29:53Speaker 2: negatives going to cost us more because we have to
- 29:56Speaker 2: pay qualified people and things. But I'm pretty sure that
- 29:59Speaker 2: most parents out there would really like the workforce to
- 30:02Speaker 2: remain qualified.
- 30:04Speaker 7: Absolutely. I mean, if you want, if you put your
- 30:06Speaker 7: child into an early childhood service, you want to know
- 30:08Speaker 7: every single day that your child is not only getting
- 30:11Speaker 7: the best care and their well being is looked after,
- 30:14Speaker 7: but they've been educated with a qualified person who understands
- 30:18Speaker 7: how a child develops. And that can be the difference
- 30:21Speaker 7: between an unqualified person who could have an impact on
- 30:26Speaker 7: a child through a perverse situation, where a qualified person
- 30:30Speaker 7: would absolutely know how to deal with the situation, and
- 30:33Speaker 7: that impact on a child can last for a very
- 30:36Speaker 7: long time.
- 30:37Speaker 2: And can you any other major issues with the reforms.
- 30:41Speaker 7: At this stage, It's just going to be really about
- 30:43Speaker 7: working with the government and the ministry around the changes,
- 30:47Speaker 7: especially around the criteria for the licensing. So that'll be
- 30:52Speaker 7: a work in progress, as seymore mentioned, over the next
- 30:56Speaker 7: next week, while the Qualification one is going to be
- 30:59Speaker 7: a very big focus for the sector and there will
- 31:01Speaker 7: be very big pushback on this one.
- 31:03Speaker 2: Tathy. I'm just wondering while I've got you, if I
- 31:05Speaker 2: can ask you about the data and the Herald this
- 31:08Speaker 2: morning that revealed the government's estimate of the number of
- 31:11Speaker 2: families eligible for the full Family Boost payment was wrong.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Just yeah, two hundred and forty nine out of the
- 31:16Speaker 2: twenty one thousand the Government seed were eligible have actually
- 31:20Speaker 2: received that maximum amount. The real number of families eligible
- 31:24Speaker 2: is unknown. What are your thoughts about that?
- 31:27Speaker 7: Well, we always said that the Family Boost was flawed.
- 31:31Speaker 7: It doesn't reach the families that it should reach. And
- 31:34Speaker 7: also there's a few hoops the families have to jump
- 31:37Speaker 7: through to even get access to that, and they only
- 31:40Speaker 7: get access it after that paid three months and then
- 31:42Speaker 7: they get repaid for that, and many families don't have
- 31:45Speaker 7: that money upfront. So we're hoping that Minister Seymour really
- 31:50Speaker 7: has a look at the funding for early childhood and
- 31:53Speaker 7: we really make a fitful purpose for both fairly child
- 31:56Speaker 7: and services as well as parents to get the system
- 32:01Speaker 7: fixed and working how it should be.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Kathy. I really appreciate your time
- 32:05Speaker 2: and your thoughts. A sting that was Kathy, Thank you Kathy.
- 32:08Speaker 2: That was Kathy from Kathy Will from Early Childhood, New Zealand. YEA,
- 32:12Speaker 2: that was a bit embarrassing those figures that were released.
- 32:16Speaker 2: But Nicola Will have said that the id's advice was
- 32:21Speaker 2: based on its best estimates at the time. Unfortunately they
- 32:24Speaker 2: got that wrong. But the ID found the modeling for
- 32:28Speaker 2: Family Boost challenging because it didn't have reliable data. So
- 32:31Speaker 2: apparently now they are trying to get as much reliable data,
- 32:34Speaker 2: but there's other things that complicated as well. There's a
- 32:36Speaker 2: possibility that some people went, oh, it's not worth applying
- 32:38Speaker 2: for it because I'm not going to get a huge
- 32:40Speaker 2: amount back, or they haven't got around to cleicking up
- 32:42Speaker 2: all those receipts and applying for it yet. But hopefully
- 32:44Speaker 2: they'll be able to get that sorted as soon as possible.
- 32:47Speaker 2: It is a six to six. My cost ginger is
- 32:50Speaker 2: in the studio next.
- 32:51Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day earlier
- 32:54Speaker 1: edition with one roof will make your property search simple.
- 32:58Speaker 1: The news talk said.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Be coming up at Sex is Mike Hoskin and he's
- 33:02Speaker 2: in the studio with me. Now, what do you got
- 33:03Speaker 2: on the show, mate.
- 33:04Speaker 10: Well, I'm just, I'm just I've been watching Ronee Oh Sullivan.
- 33:09Speaker 10: You know, the snooker No, okay, I don't.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Want anyway, Nobody fascinated.
- 33:14Speaker 10: The story is no, no, no. So the World Championships
- 33:18Speaker 10: are on right now and this is the this is
- 33:20Speaker 10: the thing. This is a place called the Cruciball go
- 33:23Speaker 10: to a snooker games. It's amazing. Anyway, Roneoh Sullivan he's
- 33:26Speaker 10: the greatest snooker player of all time. In dispute and
- 33:29Speaker 10: no one disputes Okay. He hasn't been playing since January.
- 33:31Speaker 10: He has a lot of mental health issues and so
- 33:33Speaker 10: he's thinking, I don't need this anymore. Shallow play cha anyway,
- 33:36Speaker 10: So there's been tremendous anticipation as to whether he will
- 33:39Speaker 10: turn up at this tournament, and he has and he's
- 33:41Speaker 10: just played his open round and it's over a couple
- 33:43Speaker 10: of days because there's a large number of frames. Anyway,
- 33:46Speaker 10: he's playing a guy called Ellie Carter, and there's a
- 33:48Speaker 10: bit of beef between Ronnie and Ellie, and so that
- 33:50Speaker 10: gave it a freshont anyway. So the first frames of
- 33:53Speaker 10: five to four, this was yesterday, so overnight he plays
- 33:56Speaker 10: the second series of frames first and nineteen and he
- 33:59Speaker 10: comes out and he destroys Ellie, absolutely destroys him, and
- 34:03Speaker 10: he's playing like the old days and it's just so
- 34:06Speaker 10: exciting anyway through to the second round. So that's what
- 34:09Speaker 10: I've been doing, not but that will be reflected on the.
- 34:11Speaker 2: Show that I think I might have got confused with
- 34:13Speaker 2: dance Darts looks like a fun totally different sports.
- 34:15Speaker 10: Franchesca completely good time and players. You have a good weekend.
- 34:19Speaker 2: Mike Cosking is up next. I'll see you tomorrow morning
- 34:22Speaker 2: at nine. Have a good long weekend.
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