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Zelensky says Russia hit Ukrainian power plant after Trump declared energy ceasefire · DEEP INSIGHT

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  Speaker 1: Ukraine says Russia has continued carrying out deadly attacks despite
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  Speaker 1: a so-called energy ceasefire proposed by President Trump. President Zelensky
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  Speaker 1: said Russia hit power plants and civilian areas following the announcement. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this footage shows damage from an industrial site near Kiev. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: President Trump posted this, claiming the two sides had agreed
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  Speaker 1: to stop attacks on energy facilities effective immediately. But the
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  Speaker 1: Kremlin has yet to comment. Mr Zelensky said the announcement
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  Speaker 1: was news to him, but that Ukraine would support a
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  Speaker 1: ceasefire if Russia sticks to the terms. Relations between Mr
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  Speaker 1: Zelensky and Mr Trump have deteriorated as the US president
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  Speaker 1: tries to get the cost of oil and diesel down
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  Speaker 1: before the US midterm elections. Dan Johnson reports from Kiev.
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  Speaker 2: On the edge of Kharkiv last night... A reminder, Russia
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  Speaker 2: has not stopped attacking Ukraine. This woman was filming after
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  Speaker 2: the sirens, asking where would be hit. She was lucky
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  Speaker 2: to survive a strike on a shop that killed three
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  Speaker 2: people and injured more than 20. This just hours after
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump announced his partial truce. On Truth Social, he wrote,
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  Speaker 2: Effective immediately. There is an energy ceasefire in the war
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  Speaker 2: between Russia and Ukraine. Both parties have agreed. Do not
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  Speaker 2: break it. Ukraine's been targeting Russian oil refineries in response
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  Speaker 2: to attacks on its own power grid. Ukraine said it
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  Speaker 2: was ready to cease if Russia did the same, but
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's announcement appeared to come as a surprise to
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  Speaker 2: President Zelensky.
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  Speaker 3: Ukraine is ready to refrain from striking Russia's energy infrastructure,
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  Speaker 3: and we expect Russia to show the same readiness and
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  Speaker 3: honour the agreement reached with the President of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: He'd better damn well stop.
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  Speaker 2: It was a tense weekend of fractured US-Ukraine relations.
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  Speaker 4: I suggest they get a new leader who can make
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  Speaker 4: a deal.
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  Speaker 2: The row started when Donald Trump lifted export restrictions on
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  Speaker 2: Russian diesel, many believe to ease fuel prices driven up
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  Speaker 2: by the war in Iran. In Kiev, the streets have
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  Speaker 2: fallen dark and quiet as its power network has been pounded.
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  Speaker 2: Many people here are without light, heat or water because
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  Speaker 2: electricity is needed to pump it. Ukrainians were braced for
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  Speaker 2: a very difficult few months ahead into the winter. So
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot riding on this ceasefire. But even if
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  Speaker 2: it holds, the war is not over. That was hammered
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  Speaker 2: home with more drones heading for the capital. And within
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  Speaker 2: two hours, this was Kharkiv's main power station, leaving Ukrainians
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  Speaker 2: questioning what impact this ceasefire will have. Dan Johnson, BBC
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  Speaker 2: News in Kyiv.
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  Speaker 1: In the last hour, President Zelensky has been addressing the
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  Speaker 1: Warsaw Security Forum. He says reassurances from President Trump of
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  Speaker 1: an energy ceasefire have not held.
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  Speaker 4: Russia launched a targeted strike on a power plant in Kharkiv.
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  Speaker 5: Causing further damage to our energy system. It was clear
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  Speaker 5: that Putin does not read through social.
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  Speaker 4: And his check-in drones follow a different set of instructions.
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  Speaker 4: But this post is actually about something that affects the
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  Speaker 4: lives of millions of people and that makes it very,
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  Speaker 4: very important. First of all, in Ukraine, because Russia is
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  Speaker 4: trying to use another winter, another period of cold weather
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  Speaker 4: against our country, taking our power plants, power grids, and
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  Speaker 4: all parts of our energy infrastructure every single day.
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  Speaker 1: Well, speaking at that same forum in Warsaw, Poland's Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister Donald Tusk said this latest so-called energy ceasefire followed
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  Speaker 1: a familiar pattern.
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  Speaker 6: Response... from Russia to this good proposal was an attack
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  Speaker 6: against energy infrastructure in Kharkiv. It's every time the same.
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  Speaker 6: If you propose Russia to cease fire, to stop bombing
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  Speaker 6: critical infrastructure, to cease bombing civilian facilities, which Russia does
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  Speaker 6: on a regular basis, is met with brutal and arrogance
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  Speaker 6: for answer.
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  Speaker 1: A Ukraine correspondent in Kiev, Dan Johnson, was watching President
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  Speaker 1: Zelensky's speech.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Zelensky reiterating that Ukraine will sign up to this,
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  Speaker 2: that it will abide by it, but making clear that
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  Speaker 2: Russia needs to do the same and he needs to
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  Speaker 2: see that evidence from Russia. And he laid bare the
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  Speaker 2: level of attacks that had continued in the initial hours
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  Speaker 2: of this ceasefire having been announced by Donald Trump. Zelensky
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  Speaker 2: said that Putin clearly does not read truth social and
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  Speaker 2: that his Shahi drones were following different instructions. So, There's
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  Speaker 2: scepticism there, there is doubt, but there is hope that
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  Speaker 2: this can deliver. I think Zelensky wants to present himself
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  Speaker 2: as the pragmatist, the honest broker here. And although this
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  Speaker 2: started with a row about how Donald Trump was apparently
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  Speaker 2: favouring the Russians and Vladimir Putin and making deals and
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  Speaker 2: moves that were to Russia's benefit, Zelensky sees a possible
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  Speaker 2: favourable outcome for Ukraine in this. On the first hand,
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  Speaker 2: getting an energy ceasefire which would protect Ukraine the electricity
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  Speaker 2: network of this country and enable Ukrainians to get through
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  Speaker 2: this winter without the level of discomfort that he laid
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  Speaker 2: bare they'd suffered increasingly over the last few years as
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  Speaker 2: this war has gone on, but also that if that
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  Speaker 2: energy ceasefire can be implemented and holds, that some trust
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  Speaker 2: may be built and that there may potentially be be
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  Speaker 2: possible steps towards further de-escalation and even ending the conflict.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of confusion, a lot still to play out.
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  Speaker 2: Still no word directly from the Kremlin, but President Zelensky
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  Speaker 2: making clear there that he hopes this is a positive step.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Johnson there. Well, Stephen Doughty is a foreign office
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  Speaker 1: minister in the government. He caused doubt on claims by
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  Speaker 1: President Trump that an energy ceasefire is in place.
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  Speaker 7: We all would welcome an energy ceasefire. Indeed, President Zelensky
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  Speaker 7: has been clear that he would welcome one. Indeed, we'd
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  Speaker 7: all welcome a wider ceasefire. But Russia continues to attack Ukraine,
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  Speaker 7: continues to attack civilian infrastructure and continues to have a
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  Speaker 7: devastating toll in loss of life and indeed damage to
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  Speaker 7: Ukraine's energy grid, which is causing blackouts and severe harm.
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  Speaker 7: And we know the damage that did last winter to Ukraine.
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  Speaker 7: So we're going to continue to stand resolutely with Ukraine.
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  Speaker 7: And we're also going to continue to raise the economic
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  Speaker 7: pressure on Russia.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's speak to John Foreman, former UK defence attaché
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  Speaker 1: to the Russian Federation between 2019 and 2022. He also
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  Speaker 1: served as Britain's defence attaché in Kiev. Thanks for being
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  Speaker 1: with us. Is there any chance of an energy ceasefire
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  Speaker 1: being agreed to by Moscow, do you think?
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  Speaker 8: Well, good morning, Gita. No, I don't think so, because
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  Speaker 8: Russia's consistently refused to agree to a ceasefire because it
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  Speaker 8: seized attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure as a way to achieve victory.
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  Speaker 8: And I think President Putin has been clear about that.
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  Speaker 8: He's been signaling there's been no change, of course. Over
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  Speaker 8: the last few weeks, Russia's been ramping up attacks against
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  Speaker 8: Ukrainian infrastructure, including energy infrastructure. And I think that he
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  Speaker 8: saw that as the way over the winter to bring
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  Speaker 8: the Ukrainians, as you see it, to heel, to bend
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  Speaker 8: the nail again, to give way to his demands on peace.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen, obviously, the statements over the weekend from President Trump.
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  Speaker 1: He is facing political pressure at home ahead of the midterms.
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  Speaker 1: And he's also made it clear, you know, in terms
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  Speaker 1: of the Ukrainian strategy, that he is not happy about
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  Speaker 1: long-range attacks. What do you think the Ukrainians and Europe
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  Speaker 1: should do in response if an energy ceasefire does not hold?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think it's going to be very difficult because,
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  Speaker 8: you know, Trump... it's actually more about more than just
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  Speaker 8: about the diesel. I think the fact that President Trump
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  Speaker 8: has decided to throw his hat in with the aggressor
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  Speaker 8: and a bloodstone tyrant who's been killing hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 8: of Ukrainians for four and a half years and also
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  Speaker 8: millions of people is a moral stain on the United States.
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  Speaker 8: It's against the interests of the United States, both in Europe,
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  Speaker 8: I think domestically and for the long term. So I
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  Speaker 8: think it's extremely difficult, as we've seen by the statements
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  Speaker 8: from the government, British government, of how we're going to
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  Speaker 8: deal with this. I think What's critical is that Europe
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  Speaker 8: stays together. It doesn't allow Americans to bully. It carries
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  Speaker 8: on supporting Ukraine in its hour of need over the
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  Speaker 8: winter because this is more about diesel. It's a moral imperative.
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  Speaker 8: We can't allow a sovereign democratic country three hours from
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  Speaker 8: London to fall and have to sue for peace against
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  Speaker 8: the aggressor.
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  Speaker 1: You say that, but you will know that there is...
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  Speaker 1: a narrative in the US about the cost to the
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  Speaker 1: US in wider terms of supporting this war. The US
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  Speaker 1: do hold a key plank of intelligence sharing and other
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  Speaker 1: military and intelligence help that they give to Ukraine and
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  Speaker 1: the Europeans that they could withhold if they so choose.
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  Speaker 1: So the Europeans can't afford to ignore that. Ukraine can't
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  Speaker 1: afford to ignore that. They want the US and they
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  Speaker 1: need the US on side, don't they?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think in terms of cost, it's
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  Speaker 8: been overblown. I think America actually have provided, you know,
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  Speaker 8: in terms of the American economy and arms, very little
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  Speaker 8: in terms of the size of their economy and size
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  Speaker 8: of their military. And a lot of it's been done
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  Speaker 8: for profit. And since President Trump came back into office
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  Speaker 8: last year, they cut off direct financial support, they cut
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  Speaker 8: off direct arms support and said to Europe, you buy
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  Speaker 8: our weapons, you give them to Ukraine. So I think,
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  Speaker 8: as you said, America has leverage in terms of intel,
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  Speaker 8: in terms of arms. But I think over the last
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  Speaker 8: 18 months, people have woken up to the fact that
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  Speaker 8: how Trump is, his capricious nature, shouting at President Zelensky
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  Speaker 8: in the Oval Office one minute and then putting sanctions
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  Speaker 8: against Russia on the other, but not really determining a
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  Speaker 8: clear course. So I think Europe, both in terms of NATO,
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  Speaker 8: both in terms of its own security, both in terms
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  Speaker 8: of Ukraine. What's broken up has to hedge against what
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  Speaker 8: America is up to and actually has to bite the
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  Speaker 8: bullet and support Ukraine itself.
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  Speaker 1: OK, John Foreman, we'll have to leave it there. Former
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  Speaker 1: UK Defence Attaché, thank you so much for your time.