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Week 17 News & Updates + Rantanen TRADED!!! + Kaprizov Out for the Season!? | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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Barbara Bound Bound Banger Management Fantasy Hockey
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podcast. Woo woo woo.
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Welcome into Bangor Management, the fantasy hockey podcast with
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your favorite hosts, Jake, Josh and Kevin.
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How's everybody doing today? Pretty great.
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That's all. That's all you're gonna say,
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Pretty. Great.
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How great. Scale from 1:00 to 10:00, Josh.
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I'd say 95. Perfect.
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I am the inverse at .5. Why?
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Because you've demolished me at fantasy hockey last week.
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Even though you told me you were certain that I was going to
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destroy you, I didn't. Know you were you were up like
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13 zero on Friday morning so. It was it actually 13 zero.
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No, it was like 11-4 going into the Friday matchups and he ended
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up annihilating me and it was tragic.
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Is the worst person to face in a matchup because he's always like
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getting Owen 15 that feels like until Sunday night and then
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somehow he ends up winning like. Crazy happening again this week,
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you know, like I, I, I'd love to start off a week strong, you
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know, But I'll take the win at the end.
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Some somebody really think you're working?
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I want to get into it. I'm sure you would.
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So let's dive right into our Week 17 News and updates
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episode. As always, you could find our
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social media in the link tree in the podcast description.
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And if you like what you hear, you could also follow us on
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Spotify or Apple Podcasts. So first on the agenda, we have
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an insane trade that happened this week.
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It was between the New York Rangers and Tampa Bay Lightning.
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Lucas Edmonds, 4. Ryder Korshak.
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Whoa. That's insane.
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I know, I know. OK, no, that's a joke.
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So the insane chair. That's not a joke that actually
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did happen. That did happen, it's true, it's
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true, but I think higher on our priority list is fantasy hockey
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players. You had Rantanen for NHS and a
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bunch of other irrelevant pieces.
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Although Taylor Hall is kind of fun and there.
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I guess you call Taylor Hall irrelevant.
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Yeah, what the? Heck, Hart Trophy winner.
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Taylor, don't buy it. But yeah, this is massive and
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Nature and Ranson are definitely the biggest 2 pieces, so we kind
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of expect to that this is going to increase Nature's value a
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lot. Get into play with McKinnon.
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And are we all in agreement that Ryan's value should drop even
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though he's like an elite player?
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I think I mean, we should definitely discuss this trade in
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the ramifications. I think on the on the surface,
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it kind of feels just like a straight swap another day,
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right? You're just in the lineups,
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you're just putting nature for random was and vice versa.
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I really like this for Natus more than ranted and obviously
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for Natus, you're probably happier than if you are renting
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owner. He's still obviously a fantasy
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GOAT, right? But his ultimately, I think the
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biggest difference is his minutes are gonna go down just
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inherently by playing on the different team that's less top
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heavy. And Nature gets to play with
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McKinnon and I think their skill set suits each other very well.
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Nature is a very fast player and making it as well.
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So I think the them playing together, they're already seeing
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it's been what, 2-3 games at this point?
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The chemistry is already kind of developing there.
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So I'm thrilled about that. I don't know how much fantasy
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value he has. Like overall, like he started
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off really hot. So you're not really expecting
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that pace to continue, but I'd be very happy as a Nature's
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owner. Rantanen, what do we expect?
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I feel his volume cats probably should stay the same, be a
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slight dip in shots, maybe no more faceoff wins because he was
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taking some face off wins at certain points.
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Power play. Does that get better?
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Like the canes usually have a better power play?
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I know it's kind of been slacking recently, but overall I
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think that's kind of how I feel about it.
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What do you think, Josh? Yeah, I think this is a clear
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win for Natus. I mean, not like, yeah, that
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super hot start, but he's actually been pretty bad for the
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past, I think, month or two. So this kind of like, gives him
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a new change of scenery. He's playing.
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He's locked onto that line, one with McKinnon and power play,
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one with McKinnon. Like Kevin said, they're both
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fast players who work really well together.
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Nature has four assists in the last two games, so it's clearly
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working out so far. And I guess one other thing is
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that he's not playing on a rod team anymore where the lines
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could get shuffled at any moment.
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You know, he's gonna actually get to develop some chemistry
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with his linemate who happens to be probably the best player in
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the world. So I think that's a huge one for
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Natus. Then in terms of Rantanen, the
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fact is when you have a player of that skill level, they're the
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ones who make their teammates better.
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It's not their teammates who make them better.
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But at the same time, when you're moving away from a player
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like McKinnon, it's still going to take a little dip.
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So it's going to be a bit of a a dip for ranting.
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But also, like Evan said, the Canes have a better power play
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than the Avs, so who knows if maybe that actually gives them a
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bit more power play. Regardless, I'm not looking to,
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you know, make any moves from Antonin that I wasn't planning
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on doing before. I don't think it changes his
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like, you know, story that much. I think I'd definitely be
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willing to trade for rent and more right now.
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Like if people aren't really taking a dip in his value too
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seriously, I would look to maybe make a lateral move for a team
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that maybe has a better playoff schedule or a guy that I'm just
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more confident in the rest of the season.
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Like, do you think I was gonna say Rantanen or do you think you
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could pasta? Would you would you make that
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swap? No, I'd keep pasta.
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Not like for sure, sorry. You're saying what I trade
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ranting. And ranting for pasta.
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Yes, absolutely. Because Josh.
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Is Wrentham's been better? Almost.
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Yeah, I know. But that's no, I think that the
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whole rod factor here is actually massive and that really
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hindered nature's value because other than AHO, there's nobody
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over the past five years on the Hurricanes who has gotten more
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than a point per game in a season.
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The only buddy, the only player that was poised to do that was
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niches this year. So to me, this incredibly
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hinders Rantanen's value. I'm probably going to be the
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lowest on him of us three rest of season.
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And I think that this propels nature is still like new heights
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that are going to make him like probably not second round pick
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in most leagues, but I think he's going to be insane rest of
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the season. So now if you ask me Kyle Connor
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or Martin Hughes, which is a big topic of conversation over the
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over the duration of our Bangor management tenure thus far, I
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still gonna go with Kyle Connor, but very, very like.
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You can't stay still when both of you guys were nitrous and I
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was. Like what I wrote no, but
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actually like I'm I'm super high on natures right now and way
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lower on rent and than than I was.
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Yeah, I agree. Would you take would you take
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Rantanen or kill Makar rest of the season?
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Makar. For sure.
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I mean, Renton's been better. That's why I'm.
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Asking I take Renton. Yeah, but ranting there he.
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Has been better. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Like if you have rent and and you know you're worried about
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his value post trade, if people are excited about the trade and
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you can flip him for a guy that's arguably going to be
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better than I think you should look into it.
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Yeah, that's it. Cool.
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So it sounds like we're all in agreement.
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So let's move on to the second point here.
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We got John Tavares and Matthew Knives are skating again with
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contact jerseys. It's exciting for Josh is at the
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virus owner finally. And you also got scholars.
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He participated in a full practice.
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You'd expect Stolarz Antivirus to be back in the next one to
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two weeks. Noise might only come back after
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the Four Nations break. The goalie should go back to a
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5050 rotation and to virus slash.
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Nice. Should bump Domi and McCann off
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power. Play one.
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I think that's all pretty straightforward.
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I don't. I mean, we're jumping ahead
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here, but I don't think that the leaves are necessarily married
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to one or the other for the playoffs, meaning that I think
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it's going to be a true tandem for the goalies.
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Yeah, I'm super excited for this because I have both Tavarius and
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Scholars on my team, so it would be great if they could come
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back. But yeah, I think it's a pretty
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clear every time both goalies have been healthy, it's been a
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5050 tandem. Both have been playing amazing.
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It's the only way I see them moving away from the tandem if
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is if one starts playing really awful, but I don't see a reason
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why that would happen. So expect the full 501050 tandem
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and then the power play one in terms of the forwards is pretty
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set in stone. So to various and eyes will take
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back their spots easily once they come.
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Back. Yeah, absolutely.
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I think right now as we, I mean we should, we should work on
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getting a playoff primer kind of episode out for all the fans out
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there because now is really the time as we near trade deadlines
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and everything like that to really consider making those
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moves to better replay off schedule.
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And I think as Toronto comes back and gets fully healthy and
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these guys production starts going up, I think that's
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probably the best time to start looking at flipping those guys
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for maybe you guys would better playoff schedules because if
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you're championship week is week 24 in Toronto plays twice,
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that's a really big difference. Then if you have a guy that's a
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lateral move that has four games or three games, you know, so now
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is the time to look into that. Goalie wise, I expect Solars to
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be the starter over Wall. I would say like a 6040 split.
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Installers's favor is what I'm expecting.
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The only thing that would take away from that is if maybe this
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injury really affects the largest level of play and he
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doesn't get back to where he was before.
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I guess I will have to wait and see.
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I'm sure he'll be a little bit rusty when he gets back into it,
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but overall I think I would take him over while rest of season.
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Awesome, I agree with both of you on that one.
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Cool, so then you got Sean Monahan suffered a set back and
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should be out until mid March. Boone Jenner started practicing
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and should be back after the Four Nations break.
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I don't expect Boon to take Chantilly spot on line one or
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power play 1. I don't think any of you do
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either. And I really think that rest of
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season Ventilla is going to be a really nice fantasy asset to
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own. I think that this this setback
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for Monahan, I think it's a pretty bad actually for guys
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like Marchenko and Voronkov and Werenski.
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I do think Monahan was just having an incredible season and
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he definitely did increase their value a lot.
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But at the end of the day, that top line and and top defensemen
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are still really, really good even without him.
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So families going to slot in, I expect them all to take a little
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dip in value where infantile obviously a huge jump in value.
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That's pretty much honestly, this is really tough for Monahan
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owners themselves, right? Because I feel like Monahan went
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later in draft so you got really good value on the level of
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production he was giving your fantasy team and just sit back.
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Makes him pretty much irrelevant for the rest of the fantasy
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season. Right?
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Like he's not coming back anytime soon. 8 weeks.
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I think it was the setback. 6 to 8 weeks, yeah.
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So that's pretty much maybe he comes in for your fantasy
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championship maybe, but unlikely at that point.
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And even then at that, if he's on your IR, you're going to cut
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somebody to bring him off IR and see what you get.
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Who knows? The biggest question is what
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does how does this affect Bunners playing time when he
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comes back? We'll have to wait and see.
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We can make our assumptions, but at the end of the day, we won't
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know until he gets in the lineup.
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Yeah, obviously if he takes that line, one power play, one spot,
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then that's like massive for him.
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But I just I don't see him taking it from Chantilly.
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I think they like how Ventil he's.
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Been they should have family there, but I wouldn't be
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surprised if they give the captain and shot there at some
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point, you know? Yeah.
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I I think I'm probably the highest on Fantilli here.
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I mean, yes, Monaghan was having an amazing season, but I don't
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know if this actually takes Voronkov and Marchenko down as
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much as you guys think. I mean, Ventilla's been really
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good. They've been scoring a lot.
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He's been like Ventilla just alone.
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Like went on a like a six game point streak recently and they
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just got a hat trick in a two assist game.
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They're scoring with Chantilly there and Fantilli just played
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25 minutes in his last game, which is nuts for a forward.
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Yeah, no, I think he's really good and I think, but I think at
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best he'll do as good as Monahan did there.
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I don't think he's gonna do better than that.
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So I think they'll take a slight dip or at best it'll be the
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same. Right.
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I just mean, I wouldn't use this as an opportunity to trade
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Marchenko or Voronkov away with the Monaghan setback news,
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right? Like, I still think that those
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guys are gonna be good even with Van Tilly.
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Yeah. Right, cool.
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So let's move on to the next point.
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Nico Hischer has an upper body injury and his week to week
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probably won't return until after the Four Nations face off
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Timo Meyer is on power. Play one.
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I too am rejoicing now, Kevin. You're welcome.
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It's devil time. Yeah, so I I mean, Josh wrote
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wait for him to wait for Timo to get some points and then sell
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high. I disagree.
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I think Timo is awesome, but no, in actuality they're gonna play
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different places on the power play and Timo's value is just.
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Comes from the fact that I. Do shots hits monster.
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So at the end of the day, like I don't necessarily think he's
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gonna nearly take over. He shares point production, but
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the more minutes is really nice if you're a team owner.
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If you look at the lines as the practice this morning, they put
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instead of Timon power play 1. So I would say I would say
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definitely keep an eye on that. They're doing everything in her
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power not to have Timo Meyer on power.
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Play one I. Don't know why they hate him so
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much, like why would you? I wouldn't trade for him and
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sign him to this contract if you're just gonna bury him in
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the lineup. I know it makes no sense.
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Honestly, I think the only reason that kind of makes sense
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is they said they have too many I think left shutters on their
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lineup and they need somebody from a different that has
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different shot to play on the other side.
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I don't know if that's the case or whatnot, but either way, I
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would agree with Josh kind of where I would say.
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Lots of lefty also and so is seizure.
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So listen then, so I don't know, I don't know what to tell you
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then, because he's not on P1 and I don't know if he's going to
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get there. And they all they also have New
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Jersey has A2 game week in the 20 in the week 24 fantasy
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championship. So if you can get any value,
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like if I'd be looking to sell Timo already and if his better
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production wave he sure out helps, then maybe do that.
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But also take a look at Dawson Mercer.
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You just playing Line 2 centre for the rest of the season or
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something? I like the Mercer call there.
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Yeah, yeah, it's Kevin. Sounds like someone who sold
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Teemo in our main league to your fellow podcast iOS and supposed
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friend. I mean, he's good.
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It's just the 2024 Fantasy Championship.
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I'm definitely the lowest on him out of all of us, I think.
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He's great for shots and hits, he's just a lack of power play
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is what hinders his true potential and then he's just
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unlucky and has not the best playoff schedule so.
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Yeah. Yeah, then we got Charlie McAvoy
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practicing a regular jersey and should be back this week.
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He is likely to take the power play one spot back from Mason
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Lori. We've said it before that he's
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no stranger. Macavoy to playing on the second
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power play while still being a fantasy asset.
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However, it's not like Laura has been an absolute stud on Power
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Play 1, so McAvoy should go back there.
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Yeah, I took a shot at Lori thinking, you know, if he if he
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was good enough, he would, he could have stolen that spot.
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But he just hasn't been. So I think McAvoy will slot back
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in on power play when he comes back.
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Yeah, not that he, Macavoy, is gonna be the best power play
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point production getter as a defenseman overall, but if PP1
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obviously. The thing with McAvoy though is
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that he's just really good and well-rounded for banger
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categories. He's one of the few I think
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defensemen that will get you almost a triple double in those
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back. Great shots, hit some blocks.
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So he's just very valuable for that.
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And if he's getting P1 production as well, then great.
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But I think most fantasy teams are just be happy to have him
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back. Hmm.
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Afghani the why is silent. Mulkin is week to week with an L
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lower body injury. He already wasn't on power play
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one and Pittsburgh sucks regardless so I don't expect
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much fantasy impact. OK, Josh, go off.
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Look, I've been so low on Pittsburgh.
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I love hearing you read my words because I know you don't fully
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agree. But I just, I was just reading
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it and I was like, Oh, no, one of my.
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Mulkin was maybe the best sell high we had all season with how
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we had started like week two or three, whenever that was, when
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he was like averaging 2 points per game for like a month.
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I think that was the best sell high we may have called.
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Yeah, I mean, hopefully not on your fantasy team after that
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point, but if he is now this kind of unfortunate.
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Yeah, I mean, even before this injury he was doing really,
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really poorly. So honestly, this injury could
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be a blessing because now he's not taking up a roster spot on
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your team, but. Through those, it's hard to drop
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a guy like Malkin just because of name value.
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He's one of those guys that maybe he like you know, the
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roster percentage doesn't add up with the production for your
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fantasy team and streaming from that slot is probably better.
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So now this injury, I mean if you have an IR grade, if not,
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cut him. Yeah, especially because of how
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they've been shuffling around the lines like he doesn't even
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have power play one anymore. Like, yeah, no, he's he's just
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been pretty bad for the past like a couple of months.
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And there was that brief period where Pittsburgh was surging and
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both Kevin and Jay thought Pittsburgh were the real deal.
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And Jackie had Jerry, Kevin had bunting.
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They were like. This.
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I mean I still have Bunting and he's averaging like .5 power
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play points. Per game, I actually, I have no
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issue with bunting as a as a guy on your roster, but I'm just
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saying I didn't believe in Pittsburgh at all.
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Yeah, and they're showing me that I was right.
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So it's. Well my opponent just picked up
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Nedeljkovic tonight so I hope they get smashed.
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I'm sure they will. They played the Utah, so they
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gotta. That's my team.
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Yeah, the Utah. Utah, as we should.
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We should send it in as a pitch and see what they say.
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Then you got Josh Norris, who came back from his brief injury
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and is now lined to power Play 2, with Giroud taking his spot
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on power play one. I'm not gonna read this next
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part, so I'll let you do this Josh, because I totally
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disagree. I'm kidding, I don't.
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Really like probably not. I wouldn't expect not to last so
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he could be a good buy low right now in bangers cats leagues.
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Yeah, yeah, that's fair actually.
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I mean, we'll see. He was there before the injury,
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right? So we'll see how it goes.
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It's not like Guru is a nothing player.
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He's still pretty good. But Ottawa is looking for a
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spark, especially with like, Brady to talk with, like what,
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one point over the past three months or something?
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Crazy. Like he was like one point over
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the last month or something. Yeah, that's that's crazy.
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But yeah, so I I agree. I mean, they may try this for a
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bit, but Norris sorta has had a leg up on Ja Rule and power play
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one all season. So that could that could
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probably stay. Yeah, I mean, that's just where
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he's really good. You know, like they've shuffled
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him around the lineup throughout this season.
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They've had him on line 3, but he was always able to power play
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1. And I think he had this brief
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injury where he was out for the past week and then she was on
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power play one and had like, you know, a decent showing.
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So they're not going to switch that up right now because
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they're just desperate for any wins they can get.
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But but I think the second that the power play, you know, goes
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starts faltering a bit, they'll easily swap Norris back on.
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And he's just so good with the bangers categories that, you
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know, getting the added bonus of power play points and some other
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points as well is just great. Yeah, I think if he sticks on
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P2I expect his his power production to greatly decrease
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because that was a big part of why he's like honestly really
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good and and should be nothing more than he is because he had
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that P1 as well as the Manger categories.
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If he doesn't have that P1, I expect him to lose like maybe
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like 5 to 10 points on his office projection for the rest
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of the season. So hopefully he gets back there.
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Sorry, I forgot telling myself. Yeah, I agree with both of you.
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Then we have Noah Dobson was put on LTIR and could potentially be
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out for the season. Rather than promote Pollock to
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power play one the Isles went on and signed Tony D'Angelo to run
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the power play who has been a success as a power play
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quarterback in the past. But the Islanders power play
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sucks. So he's worth a look but don't
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get your expectations too high. So the way I see this D'Angelo
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should be picked up in most points leagues that are
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relatively deep because as you mentioned has been as I
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mentioned, but as you wrote has been a pretty good power play
19:52
quarterback in his career. I want to know also your guys,
19:55
your thoughts on Scott Pyruvic, Is he just totally irrelevant or
19:59
what do? We think so.
20:00
My take is that obviously Dobson moving to LTR is really a bad
20:04
sign for his fantasy value rest of the season.
20:08
Like he could really be out for the rest of the season, which
20:11
really sucks for a team that already needs a lot of help.
20:14
Losing your best defenseman and I think like the next game after
20:17
as I streamed him, of course, Ryan Pulock gets hurt and is
20:21
potentially out as well. So I think signing Penovich was
20:24
more like Pollock got hurt and they all.
20:26
I think Mayfield is also banged up.
20:28
So they just need bodies. I think Crunch is kind of more
20:32
to that rather than being a power play quarterback.
20:34
But it's good that Munich can also potentially be that.
20:36
Tony D'Angelo, though, I see him kind of like a shame gossip
20:39
spare. I think he's a terrible NHL
20:41
defensive defenseman. He's just a power play.
20:43
Specialist. If if he's getting if he's
20:46
getting like, you know, playing line 3 defensive minutes with
20:49
power play one, then it's going to be like you're gaspare.
20:52
He he's his first game. He played like over 20 minutes,
20:54
which honestly I was surprised about.
20:56
So keep an eye on it. But the power play is just not
20:59
great. So does this value really like
21:01
does he stick that much? Does he even last the whole
21:04
season on the roster? Who knows actually worth a look,
21:07
but. I think the most positively
21:09
impacted player from all these injuries to the aisles is
21:12
actually Alexander. Romanov.
21:14
Yeah, I don't know if you and I know you got here think I'm.
21:16
She's been nuts. No, he's been nuts.
21:19
Absurd. He's got.
21:20
I picked him up just for bangs, honestly, and he's been absurd
21:23
with shots hit and blocks. But he's also got four points in
21:26
his last three games and he's playing some crazy minutes.
21:28
So I really like Romanoff as the pickup.
21:30
Here we we've seen, we've seen Romanov have like this stretch
21:33
when he was on Drake's Ross where he was averaging like
21:35
three hits, three blocks a game for like 2 weeks.
21:38
So I could see it being one of those things where, you know,
21:40
he's just playing a lot of minutes right now.
21:41
He's in a hot streak. I don't expect the points to
21:44
stick. There's not really any any
21:45
underlying metrics or, you know, helping his points out that much
21:49
besides maybe a little bit extra ice time.
21:51
But I don't think that contributes to getting in more
21:53
advantageous positions on the ice.
21:55
Yeah, but if he's playing more for bangers, that's great.
21:58
I fully agree with the points not being something you should
22:01
rely on or count on. That's just a cherry on top, you
22:03
know, But I think the fact that so many of their key guys are
22:06
out is just going to increase his minutes and increase his
22:08
Bangor categories. So I think he's a really solid
22:10
pickup in bangers. League because if you're
22:12
averaging 20 minutes a night, which is what he was doing
22:14
before all these injuries and you're averaging now like 23 to
22:17
25 tonight, that's giving you a lot more opportunities, you
22:21
know, probably on the penalty kill as well to get some hits
22:23
and blocks. I really like it.
22:27
OK, so I got two thoughts on this.
22:28
The first one is I think what's gonna happen is that D'Angelo is
22:31
gonna be power play one until some office nonsense happens.
22:34
Per unit is gonna take over at some point and then maybe be
22:37
decent but no idea how to predict whenever the next office
22:42
scandal is going to. Be the issue with D'Angelo is
22:44
that his category coverage is also not there.
22:46
Like he's not a guy that's known for getting like hits, hits,
22:50
blocks and shots. Yeah, but at least shoots and
22:52
blocks more than what the usually does, so that's like
22:57
easier hold at times. He's also notorious for getting
23:00
straight zeros glasses pair, so there's that.
23:03
But yeah, but on a bottom 5 power plane, the league, a guy
23:05
that doesn't even have category coverage, I don't have high
23:08
expectations, but it's worth picking up in deep leagues and
23:11
seeing how it goes. That's kind of how I feel.
23:14
My second thought is I cannot believe that I dropped Romanov.
23:17
I didn't see these stats until right now and this hurts so bad.
23:21
Did you have them against me last week?
23:23
No, I just picked him up. OK.
23:25
Did you dropped him a while ago? Did you know first game on
23:28
whatever? Yeah, he's like he used to be on
23:31
my roster two months ago. I can't believe I dropped him.
23:34
This is nuts though, he's been so good.
23:37
You're right. Wow.
23:38
Three shots 5.6, seven hits and three blocks in.
23:41
The past he doesn't even know that I picked them up like a
23:44
week and a half ago on our Co manage team and he's been
23:46
killing it for us. Yeah, don't worry, I'm listening
23:50
to offers if you want to make a trade.
23:52
Yeah, I'm sure you are OK then Careel Kaprizov to have surgery
23:57
maybe about four to six weeks. Rossi takes back his spot on
24:00
power play. One line 1 might be Boldy
24:03
Ericsson neck and Zuccarello, but we'll have to wait and see
24:06
while they have a great pleasant playoff schedule.
24:09
So you know depending on your league settings and this and
24:14
that Kaprizov could be a good buy low for the last two weeks
24:16
of the season. This is a really dependent on
24:19
where you are if you're guaranteed to make the playoffs.
24:22
If you're not. Kevin and I were discussing and
24:25
Josh off the pod before. Would you trade away Jordan
24:28
Kairu for Kaprizov right now, for instance?
24:31
Yeah. I mean, if you're for sure
24:34
making the playoffs, I think that's, I think that would be
24:37
fair value in terms of giving a player and getting basically
24:40
Kaprizov in five or six weeks to play for your fantasy semifinals
24:45
or finals. I think that's probably a fair
24:47
thing. But it's hard to give more than
24:49
that when you know that you're basically getting a dead roster
24:52
spot or or IR clog on your roster for the rest of the
24:55
fantasy season, especially if you're fighting for a bye week
24:57
or fighting to make the playoffs.
24:59
Like you just can't afford that if you're a prize owner and
25:02
you're in the playoffs. I mean, it's tough, right?
25:04
There's not really one for one replacement for Resoft.
25:06
You cannot replace that value. There's nobody on that team
25:08
that's going to remotely uptick in value.
25:11
It's not already rostered. If you have them and you can
25:14
trade them to a team that's, you know, in first place of the
25:17
standings or second place or something like that and get a
25:20
production that'll help you make the playoffs.
25:22
I would strongly consider that. Yeah, it's pretty much
25:25
completely dependent, like you guys said, on where you are in
25:28
the standings. I'm very interested in Kaprizov
25:30
as a as a playoffs option because like I said, I think
25:33
Minnesota has the best playoff schedule if you're weeks 22 to
25:36
24. And the fact is, he should be
25:40
back by the fantasy playoffs. But I wouldn't be surprised for
25:43
them to just IR him and make a move at the deadline and then
25:46
pull the culture of Patrick Kane or whatever.
25:49
A big level of risk involved with this type of trade for a
25:52
guy who's just going into surgery and is guaranteed out
25:54
for four to six weeks when there's this little time left in
25:57
the fantasy season. Four to six weeks and the
25:59
fantasy championship is in seven weeks.
26:00
Yeah, exactly. So it's it's, you know.
26:03
So it's definitely, it's definitely a risky move.
26:06
And so you only do it if you can get it at a good price.
26:09
You're not gonna pay for a full price price.
26:11
You're gonna pay way less because of the fact that he
26:14
could just be out for the rest of the season.
26:16
But if you can get the right price for it, I really like it
26:18
as a buy low if you're comfortably in the playoffs.
26:21
Would you do the trade, Kevin? Send Kyra for Kaprizov.
26:24
Yeah, I would trade Cairo for Capris.
26:26
I would take that chance probably from my team
26:28
specifically. Like I'm in 2nd place.
26:29
I'm like 99% chance of making the playoffs.
26:32
It might cost me a buy a week because our top two teams make
26:36
Dubai. Yeah, but if I get Capris out
26:39
for semifinals, finals, I think it'd be worth it.
26:41
If I don't then I just take the L and probably cost me my
26:44
season. They offered.
26:46
I offered Bouchard and Terry for Sanderson and Kaprizov.
26:54
I mean, that's I'd rather, I'd rather have Bouchard than
26:57
Sanderson and then Terry for Kaprizov.
27:00
Obviously there's a guy that probably is like a waiver wire
27:02
kind of kind of level. But yeah.
27:05
That's out for like almost the whole season.
27:07
Yeah, literally. So it's a 2 for one.
27:09
Yeah, pretty much. And yeah, it got rejected.
27:12
So I don't think I don't. Think it depends on the manager
27:14
obviously it depends how desperate they are and how much
27:16
they're willing to be optimistic about the surgery I guess.
27:19
Yeah, for sure. So just to clarify, if you hold
27:21
them and you're ranked one of the top in the league, do you
27:24
stay with him and IRM or do you want to?
27:26
Shop I mean you absolutely IRM you do not drop him.
27:29
No, obviously, but I'm trying to trade him.
27:31
Or do you keep him on your team? And if I'm, if I'm a first place
27:35
team and I know I'm gonna be first or second, then I'm
27:38
probably keeping him. But honestly, I just like
27:40
flipping these guys when they're hurt and getting some sort of
27:43
value if I can, if I can, if I'm a complete opposite, no.
27:47
But if I have Kaprizov and I can flip him for something good,
27:51
then I would. But or else I'm probably
27:54
holding. It's the same with.
27:56
Look, I'm not if if I'm in first place, I have prison.
27:57
I'm not trading him for Cairo, you know what I mean?
27:59
Yeah. But if somebody's giving me
28:01
like, I don't know, JT Miller, then probably, yeah.
28:04
Yeah, it's, it's obviously it's the same for buying him.
28:06
It all depends on the price. At the end of the day, it's, you
28:09
know, if you can get something solid for him in return, then do
28:11
it. If and if you can get him for
28:13
not too much, then do it. But if the price isn't right,
28:16
then don't do it. Cool, those are all the options
28:20
through. Dowdy returns tonight, January
28:23
29th and will reclaim his power play one spot Brand Clark is a
28:27
healthy scratch despite being their defenseman with the most
28:30
points on the season possible. Trade incoming.
28:33
OK, for real life purposes, this to me is massive.
28:37
For fantasy, Clark hasn't really been relevant and a fortnight.
28:41
But yeah, I mean, in real life, I mean, Brian Clark this time
28:46
last year was regarded as probably the best defensive
28:49
prospect in the league. So what are your thoughts?
28:52
I mean, I don't think we need to spend that much time on this
28:54
because we've been expecting Daddy to come back.
28:57
Brent Clark hasn't been relevant, like you said, for a
28:59
while and Daddy just slide in on that power play one.
29:02
He's going to be a boost at a power play probably.
29:06
He's never known for being like a double, double type of player
29:09
or whatnot. But if you can help the Kings
29:11
power play that's kind of been underperforming the whole
29:13
season, then it's a W. If he's on your waivers at him.
29:17
He was on waivers for over a third of leagues in Yahoo leads
29:22
and see how it goes, but I'm expecting some positive things.
29:25
Yeah, we've, we've mentioned this a bit on the news for the
29:28
past couple of couple of weeks because he just kept being
29:31
expected back and finally it's happening.
29:33
So we won't talk too much about it like Kevin said, But I think
29:35
he's an easy pickup if he's available.
29:37
And I'm pretty excited as a anyone, as someone who owns any
29:41
of the other four players on power play, one on the Kings.
29:43
I think they all should see a bit of a boost.
29:47
Agreed. Kaden Gooley out indefinitely
29:49
after getting surgery today again January 29th.
29:53
Not too much fantasy relevance but a big blow to the Habs
29:56
playoff hopes. So Google is one of those guys.
29:59
I don't know what your opinions are on this but for me it's like
30:02
he's great in real life. Not super fantasy relevant but
30:06
at the end of the day yes it is a big blow to your to the hubs
30:10
as well. If you do own GUI because you're
30:13
a block heavy league, he's been good for that.
30:16
Otherwise, I don't really think it shifts things too much around
30:19
for fantasy hockey purposes. Yeah, he's he's just a solid
30:23
depth banger that you know, could go on streaks of putting
30:25
up good hits and blocks and mostly blocks.
30:28
So, you know, he's on some rosters.
30:30
But yeah, it's not too big of a lost fantasy wise.
30:32
It's really for the actual Habs who are clawing their way for
30:36
one of those wild card spots. It's pretty brutal.
30:39
And all of all of us, you know, being Habs fans of watching the
30:42
Habs do so well recently and and, you know, beat some strong
30:44
teams, it's kind of just a bummer.
30:46
Feels like we always get something like this happened to
30:48
our team, whether it's one of our top players or just a
30:52
foundational piece. Not, not new for us, these
30:56
injuries. No.
30:59
Miro Heiskanen left the game early with a bad looking leg
31:02
injury. No details are out yet, but we
31:05
expect him to be out for a bit based on how bad it looked.
31:08
It was really brutal. Thomas Harley is gonna take over
31:11
the power play one spot most likely, and if that does happen,
31:15
he's going to be a must add in all leagues.
31:17
Yeah, I mean, Harley's been one of the guys that I've kind of
31:19
hated this whole year because he's like 70% owned and does
31:23
nothing for fantasy team. But of course, all those guys
31:26
that were holding him are now gonna get blessed because he's
31:28
gonna get hurt. Huge loss for Dallas I think
31:31
because he's going just a really good NHL defenseman and he was
31:34
just starting to pop off as well.
31:35
Hopefully doesn't miss too much time.
31:37
Dallas has a really great playoff schedule as well.
31:39
Hopefully that's not impacted for his skin, but yeah, hardly.
31:43
If he's on waivers, pick him up scum because he'll be super
31:45
valuable right now. Would you trade low for Haskin?
31:49
What are you offering? Like I, I I would try to get his
31:52
head right now. I would definitely try and buy
31:56
low and he skin in. I mean, I don't know if you
31:58
would want to wait and see until there's a general timeline out
32:01
or just do it now with the uncertainty.
32:03
But when I see a guy get injured, other than immediately
32:06
looking at who's the replacement and seeing if that's a pickup,
32:09
I'm always immediately thinking of trying to buy low.
32:11
Obviously you don't always have the luxury of that if you don't
32:13
have free IR spots, but if you do, then I think these are the
32:16
type of moves that when you championships.
32:19
Would you trade away Drew Dowdy for Haskin in return?
32:22
Yeah, I would. I think I would as well.
32:25
I think that's like the type of thing that could get done
32:27
because we have no idea how good Daddy's going to be.
32:30
He's got the big name and he hasn't been super fantasy
32:33
relevant over the past few years.
32:35
So I think, well, he's been good, but not great.
32:38
And yeah, I think that's a good idea.
32:41
And also, yeah, I mean, with Thomas Harley, you're right.
32:44
If you held on to him all year with his low production and high
32:47
roster percentage, you're pulling a classic and rejoicing.
32:51
Sorry. Oh yeah.
32:52
Would you? Would you trade Eric Carlson
32:54
for? To me, Eric Carlson's almost in
32:59
that territory of high percentage that should be owned.
33:02
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fun.
33:04
It's, it's horrible, actually. Jigs Eric Carlson, owner for
33:08
one. O'clock I have Gustav Forsling
33:10
and Eric Carlson on my main team and I I don't know why I'm
33:12
giving fantasy hockey advice, but I've been doing well
33:15
recently. At least Forsling was a stream,
33:18
you know, like you weren't holding on to him all season.
33:20
I tried to drop him for Marco Kasper last night but I got
33:23
vultures so not fun. Fab.
33:26
When we spend all our fab. That'd be like that.
33:30
Cool, then you got Dylan. Gunther is now day-to-day and
33:33
should return soon. No Josh Stone, I just dated
33:38
myself. Oh God, done.
33:40
Will probably be sent down and schmaltz.
33:42
People finally know Jake is a 50 year old man.
33:48
Yeah, yeah, wow, wow, Shane Doan.
33:50
What a blast from the past. Anyway, OK, so that's pretty
33:54
much mainly what there is to say on that.
33:56
We'll see Schmaltz how he's gonna do there, but Gunther was
33:59
amazing this whole season so he's gonna be line one power
34:01
play or. Schmaltz is when he returns.
34:04
Schmaltz is gonna be a cell high right now.
34:05
If you can trade him off. The production has been really
34:07
hot these last few weeks. I would try to get any type of
34:10
player that's going to be like a mainstay on your roster for the
34:12
rest of the season. Might still be valuable,
34:15
obviously, but it's just like, you know, Dylan coming into
34:17
them, she's going to lose that line, one spot most likely and
34:20
the P1 spot might be up for grabs depending on how they do
34:25
because Don was there. So we'll see.
34:27
But. It's an easy, easy probably get
34:29
sent down. So it's again there's gonna take
34:31
a spot, play one small isn't getting bumped off power play
34:33
one even strength. Yeah, he's probably gonna take a
34:36
dip, but I don't think he's gonna become a drop.
34:39
I do think he's a sell high right now.
34:40
Depends on how deep is, obviously.
34:42
Obviously, yeah, but I don't think he's gonna stop being
34:45
productive completely. I think it's just gonna be a
34:48
compared to what the crazy stuff he's been doing in the past
34:50
month. But Gunter was sick and I'm
34:52
really excited for him to be back cause he's one of those
34:54
guys that's gonna get you a lot of points and shots.
34:56
So yeah. Just fun to watch.
34:58
Yeah, your window to buy low is probably closing by the time you
35:03
listen to this. Hopefully it's not closed and
35:06
maybe you can trade from. It wouldn't be a news and
35:11
updates episode if we didn't mention big squishy Leanness
35:15
Almark, who is expected to be back sometime this week.
35:23
Yeah, we're in the league. OK, well we know how to bleep
35:28
now so. So maybe we'll.
35:29
Have to. We're just saying his name, not
35:30
saying anything crazy. That's true.
35:32
That's big lean as Almark. Yeah, biggest leanest around
35:34
cool. I'd expect Marilyn to stay as
35:37
the backup and for Forsberg to be sent down.
35:39
But regardless Almark should get most of the starts moving
35:42
forward. I don't know.
35:44
I haven't looked into the contract situation with
35:46
Forsberg. It may be more, it may be easier
35:49
to send down Marilyn, but if it's like a merit based Merlin
35:54
has been far superior. Now if Merlin us stay up, do you
35:58
think it's going to be like like a full on Vasilevsky Johansson
36:02
like split with all mark taking the vast majority or will it be
36:06
closer to a tandem between all and Marilyn and?
36:09
I think the only reason why it wouldn't be like all marketing,
36:13
the majority of starts would be like injury risk.
36:16
If they're kind of like worried about that, then maybe at least
36:19
at the beginning they're kind of ease him in.
36:22
But I think like at most you're going to see airline and get 1/3
36:26
of starts. I don't see him getting more
36:28
than that. Yeah, I feel the same.
36:30
I think all Mark has been a buy low candidate for a while now
36:32
due to injury and now that we finally have some clarity that
36:34
is actually going to be back and feel a lot more comfortable
36:37
trying to buy him. So if he's available in your
36:40
league, I mean Ottawa's got a great playoff schedule as well.
36:43
I would consider sending some offers if you can get them right
36:46
now before he starts playing and doing well again.
36:48
Like I would probably trade this is just me personally, but if
36:51
you can trade like Brovsky for him, I would Joey, Decor,
36:55
Swamin. These are all type of guys that
36:57
I feel like our middle tier where Mark is probably a safer
36:59
bet to be better. I would try to do those trades.
37:01
I. Agree with all of those.
37:04
Logan Thompson are all more grass this season.
37:06
Thompson. That's close.
37:08
Honestly, I think, I think I think all Mark because of
37:11
getting more starts like we've seen, we've seen trying to
37:14
linger and come in and get a shout out as well.
37:15
So we're kind of noticing that it's not necessarily maybe
37:17
purely Logan Thompson being insane, which he is a good
37:20
goalie, but Charlie Lindgren just kind of reminded us that
37:23
he's still there and he's still get some starts.
37:25
Like they were splitting before he got hurt.
37:26
So don't forget that. Would you trade Freddie Anderson
37:29
for him? Who just got a shout out?
37:30
For all Mark, yes, yes, absolutely, but I I wouldn't
37:33
trade Thompson for him No, I think Thompson is better even
37:36
with the. If you had to get, if you had to
37:38
give value to get Almark with Tom said I wouldn't, but a
37:41
straight swap I probably would. I guess it's tough because the
37:46
only reason I could see taking all Mark over Thompson would be
37:49
the volume. But we still, we don't know yet
37:51
what the volume is going to look like.
37:52
So it's a it's a bit risky to do that.
37:55
But we know that Thompson is probably going to get 5050
37:57
right. So yeah, that's fair.
37:58
And yeah, so that's fair. I'll Mark Will.
38:00
But if it's barely any more volume for all Mark, then I'm
38:02
taking Thompson. I think it would have to be like
38:05
all marketing, like 80% of the starts for it to be like
38:08
probably Hallmark. Yep.
38:12
OK, let's move on to the would you rather sections.
38:16
Do not do this to me again, Jake.
38:17
Do not do this to me again. Yeah.
38:19
It's been. Haunting me.
38:20
It's been haunting me in my dream.
38:22
Since you felt so bad, you feel guilty, don't you?
38:24
Yeah, yeah. No, I totally Marco Kasper do
38:26
you last week and I'm just gonna like I'm just gonna let that let
38:30
this is yours. So without further ado.
38:34
Alright, well, I'm going to expect my co-host to be ready to
38:37
answer these and have some stats pulled up.
38:39
Maybe potentially, but this is an exciting one.
38:43
Would you rather for the rest of the season, Philip Forsberg, who
38:48
has been the best fantasy player over the last couple of weeks,
38:51
or Mikko Rantanen, newly acquired Caroline Hurricane?
38:54
Forsberg I was so ready. I I I think these are really
39:02
great from you, Kevin, most of the time.
39:03
And it's a very good question to ask, especially because who
39:06
knows what Ranton's going to do on the Hurricanes?
39:08
But this is. Really if you have rented on
39:10
your team you can probably get Forsberg even though he's been
39:12
insane. Like Reference just has that
39:15
first round pick pedigree that we know is always going to be
39:18
good. Yeah, I'm, I'm taking forest
39:21
work here for sure. I'm I guess I might be the the
39:25
unpopular 1 here but I'm taking rant and and I know I have the
39:28
stats pulled up. I'm not I'm not blind.
39:30
I see over the past month Forsberg has been like 2.
39:34
He's been the best fantasy. Player like it's.
39:37
Playing with Jonathan Marshall the goat.
39:39
Yeah, exactly. No, obviously Forsberg has been
39:42
absolutely unreal. I think you have to remember
39:45
also his kind of like week start to the season though.
39:47
Just because he's being unreal right now doesn't mean he's
39:49
gonna be this unreal for the rest of the season.
39:51
Actually, I'll guarantee you he's not gonna put up these.
39:52
Numbers. He's a sell.
39:54
He's averaging 1.6 points per year over the last month.
39:56
Like one point. Nobody's finishing.
39:58
That power play points, 4.3 shots, 1.4 hits.
40:00
This is literally like the best player you'll ever see in your
40:02
life. So yes, he's he's he's a cell.
40:04
Hi. I think it's a great question
40:06
because Rantanen, I think we all kind of agree, loses a bunch of
40:09
value with the trade. But at the end of the day, if
40:11
you can get like a top five guy, like that's what I'm saying.
40:15
Yeah. So I'm going with Rantanen
40:17
because I just think he's I think this is the perfect time
40:20
to do this trade. I think if you look at this in a
40:21
couple of weeks, the Rantanen owner wouldn't even consider it.
40:25
But I think, I think now if you wanted to try and do it, now
40:27
would be the time. This to me is less being super
40:30
high on Forsberg and being low on rants and moving forward.
40:33
How low though? Like you don't think he's like a
40:36
second round pick or at least. Yeah, before we played like a
40:39
first round pick. Yeah, Forsberg putting up
40:42
McKinnon numbers, just without the faceoffs.
40:45
No, it's, it's more, it's just like the numbers.
40:48
I just don't know how this is gonna work.
40:50
I mean, like, like I said, past five years, only Sebastian Aho
40:54
has gotten more than a point per game on the Hurricanes.
40:57
They brought in a superstar, should work.
41:00
What is it over the last five years?
41:02
There's like I think Mika Renton has the 4th most points in the
41:05
entire league. But Rod Rod has one goal and
41:10
it's to win. And at the end of the.
41:11
Day and randomize their best player right now.
41:14
Yeah, he is. No, you're, you're saying all
41:16
the things that point to the fact that it should happen.
41:18
I just don't trust it, that's all.
41:20
It is really totally fair I. Think that's and I saw a stat
41:24
since what is it since the new year, Forsberg has been involved
41:29
on 50% of Nashville's goals or something so that often totally.
41:32
Run. It's like the whole first line,
41:33
right? That's the only line that's
41:35
getting any kind of production. Yeah, so to me, I'm just gonna
41:38
go forward confidently here ranting in.
41:41
That's you go Josh, you're going Ranson and Kevin, whoever.
41:43
You choose. I'm taking Rantanen.
41:45
Let's go. I'm shocked.
41:47
It's Mikko Rantanen. Listen, Forsberg's been insane.
41:50
We just said it, but it's Mikko Rantanen.
41:53
OK, let's see where we're at. I will say it's really hard not
41:57
to get kind of pulled into how good players are, especially
42:01
when they're on your team. And I'm not saying that's why
42:03
you're making this decision, Jakey, but you're seeing
42:05
Forsberg's insane numbers night after night and he's just
42:08
bringing you all this joy and you're rejoicing everywhere.
42:10
And it's just like it's hard. It's hard to separate that from
42:14
and try and think of it more. But at the end of the day, it's
42:17
Miko effing Randen, you know so. I am requesting a double beer
42:22
bet with both of you. What's the What's the beer bet?
42:26
I haven't thought of it yet, let's see.
42:28
Well, we'll wrap back around. I think no Philip Forsberg ends
42:32
the season from from January 29th until end of the fantasy
42:38
season with more points than. Done.
42:40
Taken deal. Yeah.
42:43
OK, write that down. Add it double.
42:47
Double. OK, let's move on to the next
42:50
one. Wow, this is big.
42:51
Alright, this next one, I think, I wonder if it's gonna be close
42:54
or not for you guys, but I think it's close.
42:57
Steven Stamkos, teammate of Philip Forsberg or Tim Stutzel.
43:02
Rest of the season. I'm going, I'm going Stutzel.
43:06
I know this is another one where one of the guys is way playing
43:10
way better than the other. In the past month, Stamkos has
43:12
been way better than still has been really bad lately and I've
43:15
been trying to blow on him for weeks and me the time of day.
43:20
But I think that I think Ottawa, their whole team is a buy low
43:25
right now. I think all their top guys are
43:27
really, really underperforming. They've got a great playoff
43:30
schedule. So does Nashville, but Ottawa's
43:31
I like slightly better. And I actually think that Almark
43:35
coming back is going to be like kind of a catalyst for Ottawa
43:39
turning things around. I think there's kind of like a,
43:43
I don't know, I kind of like a mental aspect when you just when
43:45
your goalie is playing amazing, not that Marilyn hasn't been
43:47
solid, but like when your best like goalie comes back and he's
43:50
playing amazing, it just hypes up the entire team and it leads
43:53
to more offence as well. Like it's a mental thing when
43:55
you play hockey, you kind of like feel it, you know, it's
43:57
also the way hockey is very momentum game.
43:59
You're letting a bad goal all of a sudden you're playing slower
44:01
on your shift. So I think that Omar coming back
44:03
is going to be a big boost for Ottawa and I like Stitches a
44:06
lot. I mean, my take is very similar
44:10
to what you said. I think we're seeing Nashville's
44:13
first line be in saying one of the best lines in the whole
44:16
league. And that's because it's, you
44:17
know, it's Forsberg, Stamkos, Marshall.
44:19
So so all those guys have been killing it lately.
44:21
We going into the season, we had high expectations for Stamkos,
44:24
right? So it's kind of just like
44:25
separating where, you know, he was really bad for a large part
44:28
of the season until something clicked and now is he producing
44:31
it what we expected him to do? Is this sustainable?
44:34
I don't know. We had expectations for students
44:36
going in as well. So I think especially in bangers
44:38
are getting those extra hits from Stutzel.
44:41
He should be getting more shots. I would say it's going to come
44:44
down to, you know, the power play and and the points and I
44:46
think rest of the season I leans to sell as well.
44:49
I will say before you go, I will say that even with how much
44:53
better Nashville or top line has been and how bad still has been
44:57
in the past month, still has more power play points than than
45:00
Stamkos. Yeah, but the power has been
45:03
killing it because I mean as a martial or I'm seeing it very
45:05
often where every night he's kind of having a power plant and
45:07
Forsberg as well, so. Stamkos is not that involved, it
45:09
seems. Yeah, he's just not the guy
45:11
that's getting getting in on those pieces.
45:12
So I think I'd better soon Wikipedia.
45:16
You can maybe do that right now. Yeah, I'm gonna go sizzle.
45:20
I just think it's a safer bet, especially in bangers leagues.
45:23
Points leagues is a bit of a different conversation, but I
45:25
still think I'd lean still there.
45:27
All right. Next one, Adam Fox or Shea
45:29
Theodore? Off um, I think I feel a bit
45:34
better about Shay Theodore. He's been really good.
45:37
I know fox has been good too. It's just the Rangers are a bit
45:39
of a mess and I don't know how things are going to shake out
45:42
with who they're trading rest of the season.
45:43
So I feel a bit better going Theodore here.
45:47
I'm going to go with the fox on this one.
45:49
I'm actually super low on fox in terms of bangers leagues.
45:53
He's always a guy I kind of don't want on my team, but I'm
45:55
looking at their numbers. And like the reason I don't like
45:57
fox is because he's one of those like pure points defenseman who
46:00
won't chip in on back cats. But Theodores back cats are even
46:03
worse than foxes. So so if we take that out of the
46:06
equation, it's just about points.
46:08
I don't see Theodore getting more points than fox or at the
46:12
very least I think it will be like the same.
46:13
And fox has a bit more blocks than the adore and a bit more
46:16
hits. So I would go with Fox.
46:18
I think, I think for me it's really comes out of points
46:21
because there are similar archetype of player where you
46:23
know, they're not really getting any banger categories, but
46:25
they're on one of the better power plays and teams overall in
46:28
the league. I think the Rangers are starting
46:29
to to come come back to life. They're probably going to be a
46:34
blockbuster trade with them in the near future.
46:37
So I expect Adam Fox to, you know, his point production to
46:40
really be sustainable, whereas we saw share Theodore be like
46:42
one of the best point producing defenseman for the last month
46:45
and that's kind of already started to slow down a little
46:47
bit. So I would take Adam Fox.
46:50
The only thing is he has the worst playoff schedule.
46:52
If looking at Championship League Two games that's not
46:54
great to have. But yeah, the rest of season I
46:56
would take Fox and Yep. Yeah, it's tough.
47:00
It's a similar archetype. And yeah, I don't know, but
47:04
yeah, I'm gonna go Theodore. But I see where both of you are
47:06
coming. It's a really cool.
47:08
This one's a coin flip to me. Alright, goalies time.
47:12
Kevin Lankinen back up to Thatcher Demko or Joseph Wall
47:18
back up Anthony Stolarz. I don't know.
47:20
What do you guys? Think this Kevin gonna choose
47:22
Kevin right now? I think for me, this is, I was
47:28
gonna say it's an easy one, but it's not.
47:29
It's actually a lot closer than I thought it was, but I still
47:31
gotta go with wool. I will say that LinkedIn has way
47:34
outperformed what I would expect of him this year.
47:37
I was shocked when he got drafted in our in our league
47:40
because I thought she also was going to be the guy who until
47:42
Demco came back. And regardless, I thought that
47:44
when Demco came back, whichever one of them was, the guy would
47:48
immediately kind of, you know, go away.
47:50
But Lankinen has been really, really good and deserves at
47:52
least 50% of the starts. I think he's gonna get that too.
47:55
With Demco, we're seeing him kind of get banged up too.
47:57
Yeah, so I think, I think Lankinen will get 50% of starts
48:00
going forward, but I think so as well.
48:02
So then at the end of the day, you have to look at who's
48:04
putting up the better numbers and who's on the better team.
48:06
I think Toronto is a vastly better team than Vancouver.
48:08
Vancouver is a mess and Wall is, you know, putting up just as
48:12
good numbers as as Lincoln in. So to me it's well.
48:16
Yeah, the only thing is how much how much does wall take a step
48:18
backwards dollars comes in. We'll have to wait and see where
48:21
I feel like lens values only to get stronger because it really
48:25
seemed like they can rely on Demco to to hold like the volume
48:28
of the starts. But but I agree with what you
48:30
said. I think I have to go.
48:31
Through walls or are too valuable in Vancouver such again
48:34
all over the place team. Yeah, I can't trust it.
48:36
That's why I would go with Wall. That's a deal breaker for me as
48:39
well, but I think it's really close.
48:40
Honestly. You're looking at type of
48:41
archetype of goalie they are in terms of their tandem and their
48:44
team. Like Vancouver should have been
48:46
a top playoff team too. Right now they're going through
48:49
it so, but Joseph Wall for me, Yep.
48:52
All right, last one, fun one for me, Wyatt Johnston or Patrick
48:58
Liney rest of season. I love this.
49:01
This is this is huge. OK.
49:05
Think I'm gonna go Wyatt. And Josh has a theory about
49:11
second-half Fiala being a stud, and it's true, he's always picks
49:15
it up. And I think it's the same thing
49:16
with Johnston, even though this is only like his third year to
49:20
finish. The last two seasons Johnson's
49:22
been a monster and I think that that's going to happen again.
49:24
So I'm going to go with Wyatt. But I do love Lynnae, so yeah.
49:29
For me, this one, this one's not close.
49:31
I think it's it's easily Johnston.
49:32
I've been super high on Johnston all year, even when he wasn't
49:35
doing well. And now he's just on fire.
49:38
I think he just got a hat trick his last game.
49:39
So he's he's really killing it right now and I was expecting
49:43
him to kill it for longer. So this is not surprising to me
49:46
and I think he's on a better team.
49:48
I think they've both teams have equal playoff schedules.
49:51
I really love lining. Obviously as a Habs fan, I'm
49:53
not, I don't wanna like trash line or anything, but I feel
49:56
that his production is super tied to the power play and the
49:59
Habs our plan is not the most consistent so.
50:02
I still think it's a good power play.
50:03
Though it's a great power play, I'm not saying no shots at the
50:07
house power play. I think it's way better than
50:09
it's ever been from my memory. But at the end of the day, if
50:13
most of your point production is based on the power play, it's
50:16
just a lot more volatile. Whereas Johnston has shown that
50:18
he could score even strength, power play and shorthanded.
50:21
So I like Johnson a lot. I mean, I'm going to be the
50:24
black sheep here because I'm going Patrick Liney.
50:26
And the reasoning why the yeah, the reasoning why is I think the
50:30
shots are going to be be negligible.
50:32
I think they're going to be in the same kind of range of just
50:33
over two shots per game. But I think rest of season, I
50:37
think there's gonna be a significant disparity between
50:39
the power play points. I think just being able to rely
50:42
on line to get you PowerPoint every week to maybe is just
50:46
really great value and you're playing fantasy.
50:48
I think that's kind of like a big boost in points leagues and
50:52
especially categories leagues, PowerPoints are really important
50:55
and I think the points are gonna be close.
50:57
But the fact that I can constantly say I think Patrick
50:59
Lynn gets more power play points than why Johnson the rest of the
51:01
season, that's the deal breaker for me.
51:05
Fair enough. So 2 Johnston, one line a that's
51:09
that's a close one. Though I think I've been on the
51:10
winning side of all five of these.
51:13
You OK, I will say how do you know but but you just met the
51:16
that the two versus ones, yeah. Yeah.
51:18
Is all I do is win still your ringtone?
51:21
No, now it's Africa by Toto. That's funny, you know, but if I
51:29
win my my 4th St. championship this year then maybe I'll change
51:32
it back. You'll have to switch to
51:35
something else. Yeah, OK, alright, thank you to
51:40
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