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Inside The Data: How Big Could Eagles Hurts' Next Extension Be? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to Inside the Data On Inside
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Speaker 1: the Birds. I'm Jeff Mosher and of course we have
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Speaker 1: Sam Finkle with us because we are going inside the
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Speaker 1: Data and we apologize. There was a lot going on
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Speaker 1: since we did the first of a two part podcast
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Speaker 1: series that we're gonna finish in this episode. We had
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Speaker 1: all the OTAs, we had the two to day mini camps,
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Speaker 1: so we had a lot of stuff going between the
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Speaker 1: first part of our series. And what this series is
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Speaker 1: about is projecting contracts for Eagles who are either in
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Speaker 1: that phase where it's their third years up and they're
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Speaker 1: like a Jailen Carter right who's eligible for a contract extension.
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Speaker 1: We talked about that when we did defensive players, and
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Speaker 1: now we're gonna move to offensive players, and we really
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Speaker 1: just isolated three three really important guys to talk about.
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Speaker 1: Quarterback Jaillen Hurts, wide receiver DeVante Smith, and right guard
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Speaker 1: Tyler Steen, who's different from those first two because he
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Speaker 1: is more of a first time contract extension guy if
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Speaker 1: the Eagles were to go that route. And so you
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Speaker 1: have three different scenarios here. You have a guy with
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Speaker 1: Hurts going into a potentially third contract, Smith going into No,
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Speaker 1: actually that would be the same Smith also getting a
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Speaker 1: third contract and Tyler Stein getting his second contract but
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Speaker 1: first extension with either the Eagles, Sam or another team.
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Speaker 1: So we'll get we'll get into that. But I want
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Speaker 1: to open because it's been a while since we did
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Speaker 1: the defensive one. You explained in the opening of the
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Speaker 1: last podcast we did on how you use your predictive
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Speaker 1: modeling to figure out accurately what players most likely will
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Speaker 1: make on their next extension. I would like you to
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Speaker 1: re explain that for our audience again.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the salary cap for twenty twenty seven, which
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Speaker 2: is the year we're looking at, because we're looking at
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Speaker 2: next year, it's obviously not been set, so we have
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Speaker 2: to look at estimate and I used over the caps
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Speaker 2: three hundred twenty seven million. Spot Rack has three twenty
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Speaker 2: three million, so it's not that far off. And the
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Speaker 2: cap is that like, is around three hundred and one
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Speaker 2: million now this year, so it's projected to grow. And
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Speaker 2: this analysis it's better to look at instead of the
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Speaker 2: So in previous years I looked at the ap y
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Speaker 2: the average per year, and now we're going to look
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Speaker 2: at percent of cap at signing because that transit The
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Speaker 2: big thing that I had trouble with when I did
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Speaker 2: this originally was.
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Speaker 3: Calculating cap inflation.
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Speaker 2: And so as the cap goes up, you know, salaries
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Speaker 2: go up and sometimes can make these values sound ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: So the better way to look at it.
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Speaker 2: And when when you look at the comps instead of
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Speaker 2: the actual dollar amount, that the more important number is
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Speaker 2: the percent of cap at signing, because that's what actually
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Speaker 2: translates to what the market is and it actually adjusts
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Speaker 2: for the inflation.
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Speaker 1: As is right right, It's always as we say, it's
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Speaker 1: not an exact science. There are teams that do extensions differently.
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Speaker 1: There are teams that spread out the money differently. In fact,
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Speaker 1: we can bring this up because we'll talk about Jalen
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Speaker 1: Hurts first. But obviously the Chiefs just did another extension
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Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes, right, and I want they have a
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Speaker 1: they've had a habit since his first big one right
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Speaker 1: of giving him tons of upfront money but also making
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Speaker 1: them very long deals correct so that the APY might
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Speaker 1: not be as much as the guy whoever leads lead
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Speaker 1: the quarterback with the highest APY. But and the percentage
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Speaker 1: of cap, how does that influence that? Also by what
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Speaker 1: they do yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is it is a large amount
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Speaker 2: of cap at signing, but as a long term deal,
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Speaker 2: I mean, the salary cap increases and the APY stays
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Speaker 2: the same over the deal, So basically it effectively gets
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Speaker 2: cheaper each year respective to the app growth.
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Speaker 1: Right, and especially if you I mean, if you sign
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Speaker 1: a five to six years most contracts these days are
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Speaker 1: between three and six years. When you do a ten
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Speaker 1: year one, that really enables a team to push some
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Speaker 1: money and really keep those apys and those percentages lower.
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Speaker 1: But the upfront money, as you're saying, it's not like
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is taking a pay gun, right, He's getting
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Speaker 1: a lot of upfront money.
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Speaker 2: And I think sometimes we look at this and it's
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Speaker 2: an oversimplification of the process because obviously, you know, cap
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Speaker 2: number matters a lot more for you know, roster management
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Speaker 2: and construction. But the APY is a very simple way
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Speaker 2: to just understand the value of a contract, and that's
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Speaker 2: kind of what we're trying to really focus on, is
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Speaker 2: what is the value of the contract, not necessarily how
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Speaker 2: the team allocates that value throughout the years of the contract.
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Speaker 2: But I do think it's important to say that there
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Speaker 2: is a distinction between those concepts.
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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, good stuff. So that's going
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Speaker 1: to lead us into our discussion on jail and why
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Speaker 1: we're bringing up Jalen Hurts is because he has, as
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Speaker 1: far as guaranteed money, which we always talk about the
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Speaker 1: big deal, he only has this year and next year
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Speaker 1: remaining of guaranteed money. Okay, and I think in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty seven it's a low number for a quarterback. It's
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Speaker 1: like twenty two million dollars. So you could you could,
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Speaker 1: theoretically if Jalen Hurts had a bad year or did
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Speaker 1: not live up to the standards and you wanted to
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Speaker 1: move him, and it would be a tree. They wouldn't
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Speaker 1: just cut him, right, You could absorb twenty two million.
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Speaker 1: You could do it post June one and even separate
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Speaker 1: that into two if he wants to, although I doubt
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Speaker 1: you would trade a quarterback post June one. But the
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Speaker 1: point is this is a big year because it's it's
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Speaker 1: a crossroads. If he does well, he will have every
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Speaker 1: reason to say we need to redo the deal because
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Speaker 1: that's a small, minutes skial amount of guaranteed money for
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. So we're going to operate under the term
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Speaker 1: here that he's going to do well enough to be
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Speaker 1: able to earn that next contract. So how did you
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Speaker 1: determine what that would look like?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have not yet.
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Speaker 1: I forgot that we have a beautiful screen and a
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Speaker 1: lot of work that you do to share. So if
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Speaker 1: you give me one second, I will bring that up
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Speaker 1: so that everybody who's watching on YouTube can see what
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Speaker 1: the hell we're all talking about.
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Speaker 2: All right, I mean factors are age, and then I
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Speaker 2: just put some advanced statistics up here, the completion percentage
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Speaker 2: over expectation, which is just you.
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Speaker 3: Know, the model projects.
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Speaker 2: It's an NFL pro statistic where their model projects what
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Speaker 2: an expected completion percentage would be, and then how many
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Speaker 2: are completed over or under. That is kind of that determination.
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Speaker 2: EPA per drop back is just expected points added. How
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Speaker 2: much value are you bringing each time you drop back
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Speaker 2: per you know, per drop back? Then rush yards over
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Speaker 2: expected same thing as completion percentage over expectations. It's rushing yards,
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Speaker 2: and then rushing EPA per attempt, which is the same
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Speaker 2: thing as EPA per drop back, just the rushing attempts
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Speaker 2: of it.
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Speaker 1: Right, And if you need any further evidence of how
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Speaker 1: much a really strong running game also helps a passing
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Speaker 1: game and a quarterback. Look no further than twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four when Sae Kwon Barkley said all those records and
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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts had a CPOE I believe when we would
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Speaker 1: do shows at the time, he was number one in
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Speaker 1: the NFL for quarterbacks and CPOE plus twoentt three right,
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Speaker 1: and last year quite their aggression and also not just
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Speaker 1: running game scheme staleness, all that factors in, but down
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Speaker 1: to three point one percent exactly.
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Speaker 3: And then also his accolades.
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Speaker 2: Right, he had the Super Bowl MVP, he used a
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Speaker 2: second team All Pro in twenty twenty two, and he's
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Speaker 2: had three Pro Bowls, right selections.
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Speaker 1: Yes, wait, now hold on to I'm not trying to
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Speaker 1: disparage Jalen Hurts here. I believe the NFL or some
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Speaker 1: factor someone has come out and said, like they're not
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Speaker 1: counting Pro Bowls if you make it as like the
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Speaker 1: other alternate, like you either got to be voted in
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Speaker 1: as a starter or well Pro Bowl games you're either
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Speaker 1: starter ors or something like that. So I don't know
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Speaker 1: if the does the twenty twenty five to one count, because.
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Speaker 3: He would believe it does do. Yeah, I do believe
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Speaker 3: it does clarity on that, but go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, at least like in some of like the track,
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Speaker 2: I think on the NFL website itself, it has him
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Speaker 2: listed as the.
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowler there.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll have to confirm that as well, But I'm
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Speaker 2: pretty sure it was.
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Speaker 1: A little silly, right because like over the last few years,
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Speaker 1: we've seen some guys who've played like three games get
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Speaker 1: into the Pro Bowl games and it's gotten a little
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Speaker 1: out of hand.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's the Pro Bowls is not what
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Speaker 2: it used to be. I mean, I think you can
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Speaker 2: speak to that more than most people, just because you've
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Speaker 2: seen what it was. And yeah, actually I don't even
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Speaker 2: see it on listed on I thought for some reason
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Speaker 2: it was beyond the NFL website, but I don't think
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Speaker 2: it is.
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Speaker 1: I remember Tyler Huntley made it one year as like
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Speaker 1: a fifth alternate. Somebody else made it two years ago
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Speaker 1: that only played a few guy who was it was
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Speaker 1: like a backup quarterback who played a couple of games
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Speaker 1: and they threw him in there at the last second.
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Speaker 1: So it was very it's becoming strange.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because people keep backing out of it, right right.
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Speaker 2: It definitely is part of it so.
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Speaker 1: Oh Sanders, he made it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean, come on, it's it's I mean
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Speaker 2: all Pro has always been kind of the more respected one,
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Speaker 2: but there's less selections of it. So correct, right, But
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Speaker 2: I think it's important to also talk about the market,
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Speaker 2: you know, the quarterback market.
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Speaker 3: Yes, spent a little bit of time talking about, you know,
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Speaker 3: where where it looks for the league.
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Speaker 2: As you can see, I mean there's always announcements who
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Speaker 2: is the highest paid quarterback in the league, But again
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Speaker 2: it's it's percent as of cap of signing, and that's Burrow.
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Speaker 2: Burrow has the highest from twenty twenty three when he
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Speaker 2: was twenty six is a twenty four and a half.
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Speaker 2: Then it's Dak Prescott's contract in twenty twenty f which
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Speaker 2: was changed up is twenty three and a half. Then
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Speaker 2: Herbert which is a little bit surprising at twenty three
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Speaker 2: point four, young Lamar, and then Mahomes is actually going
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Speaker 2: to be higher. We don't have all the reporting of
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Speaker 2: what his contract actually like.
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Speaker 3: We have an idea, but this I did this.
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Speaker 2: Chart before it and the reporting isn't out as of
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Speaker 2: recording right now entirely, so this is reflected of the
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty contract, which is twenty two point seven, but
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Speaker 2: he would be a lot higher on this list.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so I love this list you put together,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sort of tease and maybe spoil a
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Speaker 1: little bit of your projection because I want to make
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Speaker 1: a point. Burrow Prescott, Bengals Cowboys, you're talking about the
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Speaker 1: two teams that do business as in my opinion, stupidly
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Speaker 1: as possible because they wait until the very last minute,
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Speaker 1: and so therefore they have to pay the most amount
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Speaker 1: of dollar. Right. So that's why Burrow's at twenty four
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Speaker 1: and a half percent. That's why dak is at twenty
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Speaker 1: three point five percent. Safe thing with Lamar, they waited
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Speaker 1: a long time for him to get his deal, right,
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Speaker 1: twenty three point one percent. The Eagles, as we know,
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Speaker 1: are a lot smarter. They try to get ahead of
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Speaker 1: the game. So when you look at the Packers, who
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Speaker 1: are smart organization, the Lions have become one and you
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Speaker 1: see that they've got their guys locked in at a
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Speaker 1: percentage of the cap that is significantly lower. I know
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Speaker 1: it doesn't seen it, but it is at twenty one
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Speaker 1: and a half percent for Lawrence, twenty one and a
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Speaker 1: half percent for Love twenty one percent. For god, Allen
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Speaker 1: at nineteen point seven percent is great. Perty at nineteen
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Speaker 1: That to me is where we're looking at, right, And
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you kept that in mind with the Eagles,
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Speaker 1: because they're going to get ahead of it. They're not
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Speaker 1: going to wait until the last second.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a huge factor and a big part of this.
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Speaker 2: And then the one contract you ignored, which I think
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Speaker 2: the league kind of wishes they could ignore, is that
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson won yes, which honestly was a very very
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Speaker 2: bad contract at its inception, and it's kind of a
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Speaker 2: stain here on this list at twenty two point one.
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Speaker 2: And we're not even talking about the guarantees, but if
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Speaker 2: we did, it would be problematic for that reason as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the outlier. I was actually surprised to see
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Speaker 1: that Stafford's eighteen point three percent was that low because
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Speaker 1: they just did it, and I thought they gave him
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Speaker 1: a ton of moneies.
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Speaker 3: But so they did.
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Speaker 2: But again, as the salary cap grew, it's less reflective
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Speaker 2: of the cap.
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Speaker 1: That's a great point, all right, So then let's we're
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Speaker 1: going under the assumption jillen Hurts has a really good
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Speaker 1: year or a good enough year to get himself the
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Speaker 1: contract extension. And based on the context we just gave,
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Speaker 1: what did you see in your projection?
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Speaker 3: So here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: This is a situation that's going to sound kind of backwards, right.
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Speaker 2: So Hurts is going to get a raise if this,
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Speaker 2: if it plays out the way that we all kind
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Speaker 2: of think it does, is going to He's going to
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Speaker 2: get a raise, but he's going to get lower percentage
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Speaker 2: of the cap.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's just the trend of the way
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Speaker 3: the league is going.
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Speaker 2: I think that's because the Eagles are a smart organization
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Speaker 2: and it's going to be comparable to that Josh Allen,
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Speaker 2: Jared Goff and you know, a little bit lower than
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Speaker 2: the Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence range.
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Speaker 3: Is what I expect. But again, it's.
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Speaker 2: Going to be around sixty three point eight million to
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Speaker 2: sixty eight point seven million, which is a significant amount,
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Speaker 2: but as the cap grows, it's a lesser percentage of
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Speaker 2: So it's better from the team's perspective because they are
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Speaker 2: allocating a less percentage sue the quarterback position, but it's
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Speaker 2: better for Hurts because he gets a significant raise.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, right, And if you want to know how significant
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Speaker 1: you know, when his contract really kicked in, because when
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Speaker 1: they did the first one, they kept the you know,
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Speaker 1: you get a lot of cash up front and everything,
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Speaker 1: but he was in that I think forty to forty
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Speaker 1: two million a year range, which back then, and just
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Speaker 1: that shows you how how quick the the cash for
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Speaker 1: quarterback ryance doesn't that I mean, it doesn't seem that
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Speaker 1: long ago he signed that extension, but it was around
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Speaker 1: forty two I believe per year, and now you're looking
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Speaker 1: at something that's gonna give him sixty four to sixty
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Speaker 1: nine million per year. Absolutely amazing, amazing when you consider that,
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Speaker 1: and all those guys that we talked about on defense,
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Speaker 1: which was Jaylex Hunt right, it was who else to
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Speaker 1: be Morow with Jomo, we talked about Jalen Carter. We
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Speaker 1: didn't even get into Quinya Mitchell and Cooper to g
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Speaker 1: and this team is gonna have to make I saw
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Speaker 1: this to Adam on inside the Birds. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what the move is that they have to make, but
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Speaker 1: in the next two years, the Eagles are gonna have
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Speaker 1: to make a very unpopular move too. And they've done
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Speaker 1: a couple They've done that a couple of times. Where
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Speaker 1: they let a guy, you know, Milton Williams, you know,
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Speaker 1: like it happens Jalen Phillips. They're gonna have to make
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Speaker 1: a really unpopular move of not being able to pay somebody.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know who that is. I mean, listen,
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Speaker 1: it might be Zach Bahn, right this is the last
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Speaker 1: year of his deal. They have Jihad Campbell. Jeremiah Trotter
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Speaker 1: is cheap labor right now and seems to play really
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Speaker 1: well in practice one. If he plays well, isn't going
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Speaker 1: to want to take less than the seventeen and a
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Speaker 1: half he's making, you know, especially if he has another
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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl season. So I don't know who it is.
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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, we spitball.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe one hundred percent agree something is going
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Speaker 2: to have to be done. But again, the TV deals expires.
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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty nine.
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Speaker 2: Great point if that the cap is going to grow
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Speaker 2: so substantially that you know, again and again the agents
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Speaker 2: are going to be looking at this percent of cap
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Speaker 2: and be like, well, you know, historically the allocation has
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Speaker 2: been you know, exper position y for instance, like quarterback,
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Speaker 2: like you know, if they waited till like let's say
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Speaker 2: the the you know, Bengals wait until twenty twenty nine
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Speaker 2: to extend Burrow, and they're like, oh, well, the CAP's
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Speaker 2: set four hundred million, we get twenty five percent of that,
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Speaker 2: so give me one hundred million.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: It's it's that's that's where the logic gets kind of skewed,
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Speaker 2: and it'd be interesting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bengals really back themselves in a corner because
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Speaker 1: now when he when Burrow wants to do his next extension, right,
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Speaker 1: how does he say it doesn't matter what the number value.
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Speaker 1: It's like, it's got to be at least as long
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Speaker 1: as its playing well, right, it's got to be at
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Speaker 1: least twenty four point five percent of the cap. It's
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Speaker 1: always going to have to be. He can't take like
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Speaker 1: eighteen percent of the cap, even if they gave him
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Speaker 1: like a ten year deal, right and so much upfront money,
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Speaker 1: because that's the precedent that they said. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: it's very weird that they do that.
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Speaker 2: One thing I forgot to mention about the Hurts and
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Speaker 2: why I positioned him lower than Lawrence and Love is Age.
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Speaker 3: That was like a big part of it.
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Speaker 2: I think it's more like it'll be twenty eight so
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Speaker 2: it'd be close to to that golf and Alan age
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Speaker 2: that that was a big thing, a factor I neglected
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Speaker 2: to mention, but it was a big part of the
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Speaker 2: decision and the modeling.
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Speaker 1: Right, So you had love at twenty one and a
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Speaker 1: half percent, and yeah, your your ceiling for hurts will
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Speaker 1: be twenty one percent. So that's that's pretty close though.
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Speaker 2: But that was the reasoning I meant to mention that,
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Speaker 2: and I just wanted to say it.
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Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, good stuff, all right. So now we're gonna
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Speaker 1: talk about a different kind of extension. And I Sam
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Speaker 1: Adam and I talked about this in a recent pod
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Speaker 1: inside the Birds. We think this is gonna happen. We
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Speaker 1: expect this to happen sooner than later because DeVante Smith
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Speaker 1: is now a He's first of all, he's your number
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Speaker 1: one wide out now with AJ Brown gone, He's gonna
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Speaker 1: get a monster amount of targets. We all know that.
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Speaker 1: And then secondly, I believe he from his extension that
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Speaker 1: he signed a couple of years ago, is in the
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Speaker 1: final year of guaranteed money for him as well. No
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Speaker 1: next year would be I believe. So the point is,
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Speaker 1: you want to get ahead of it. This is a
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Speaker 1: market that's getting inflated really quickly. We made the point
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Speaker 1: that at this time next year, you're gonna have guys
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Speaker 1: like Poka Minakua, possibly Malik Neighbors if he has has
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Speaker 1: a real good bounce back year, Zay Flowers, Jordanatis, and
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be and plus somebody will be due for
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Speaker 1: an extension. This number is gonna keep rising and it
18:03
Speaker 1: just rows a lot with the Jackson Smith and Jigbook Hunt.
18:06
Speaker 2: Which is interesting because he's actually the second as percent
18:09
Speaker 2: of cap at signing, which is not too shabby, but
18:13
Speaker 2: it's worth mentioning that's only second on the list.
18:16
Speaker 1: Correct. All right, So let's first go through some stats
18:18
Speaker 1: here with DeVante to explain where he's at.
18:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's had three one thousand yard seasons,
18:27
Speaker 2: he's consistently had you know, he's had three seven or
18:31
Speaker 2: more touchdown seasons. His catch percentage is anywhere from sixty
18:38
Speaker 2: to like seventy seven percent, and he always adds value
18:43
Speaker 2: in that catch rate over expectation.
18:46
Speaker 3: He's always making the tough catches.
18:47
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that translates pretty well to what
18:50
Speaker 2: you actually see on the screen, but the stats back
18:54
Speaker 2: it up. I mean, he makes tough catches he makes.
18:56
Speaker 2: He's a quarterback's best friend in that regard. He can
18:58
Speaker 2: make some incredible catches and then he adds a lot
19:02
Speaker 2: of value in the expected points added, so doesn't have
19:06
Speaker 2: many drops, you know. That's that's a big part of
19:08
Speaker 2: it for both catch percentage, catch rate over expectation and
19:12
Speaker 2: receiving EPA.
19:13
Speaker 3: So yeah, and.
19:14
Speaker 1: Just to point out, in twenty twenty four, he played
19:17
Speaker 1: I believe twelve or thirteen games, and that's why it
19:19
Speaker 1: says eight hundred and thirty three yards his yards per
19:22
Speaker 1: game extrapolated over seventeen games was actually closer to eleven
19:27
Speaker 1: hundred yards than it was one thousand.
19:29
Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, that's a really good point. I'm glad he
19:32
Speaker 3: brought that up.
19:33
Speaker 1: All right, So let's now look at the market, which
19:38
Speaker 1: is a crazy freaking.
19:40
Speaker 3: Market, Yes, it really is.
19:44
Speaker 2: I think our eyes instantly are going to go to
19:47
Speaker 2: where aj Brown.
19:48
Speaker 3: Is just because of all the events that are going on.
19:52
Speaker 2: And he is at twelve point five percent of capet
19:55
Speaker 2: signing for the twenty twenty four contract, and then Devata
19:57
Speaker 2: Smith who also got extended that same obviousely and was
20:00
Speaker 2: at nine point eight percent, right right, I think that's
20:05
Speaker 2: just important just to you know, discuss at the outset.
20:08
Speaker 2: But you look at the rest of these contracts, you know,
20:11
Speaker 2: the top ones. You have the names that you expect
20:14
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, Justin, Jefferson, c D. Lamp the JSN contract
20:17
Speaker 2: that is a pretty big one, right, But then you
20:20
Speaker 2: have like almost like a tier drop off with the
20:22
Speaker 2: with DK metcalf I'm and Ross Saint Brown, Brandon Nyuk
20:26
Speaker 2: who I'm not even sure if he was ever gonna
20:28
Speaker 2: play football again, Terry McLaurin, Garrett Wilson, Jalen Waddle, DJ Moore,
20:33
Speaker 2: you know, and they all vary between.
20:36
Speaker 3: That like ten to twelve percent.
20:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
20:40
Speaker 3: And then you have guys that under DeVante.
20:41
Speaker 2: Smith's contract, which is Jamison Williams, Nico Collins, the Alec
20:45
Speaker 2: Pierce contract, and then the franchise tag on George Pickens,
20:48
Speaker 2: which is at nine point one percent. But all those
20:50
Speaker 2: guys are anywhere from like nine to ten percent. M h,
20:54
Speaker 2: I guess in that tier, yeah, nine to ten percent.
20:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's the tricky part. There's a lot of
20:58
Speaker 1: guys here I think who he's better than he just
21:02
Speaker 1: and and they have to when they're at the negotiation table, understand,
21:06
Speaker 1: I'm sure they will that just because mclaurin's had X
21:10
Speaker 1: amount of thousand yard years, and just because Garrett Wilson
21:14
Speaker 1: was a top pick who had a couple of early
21:16
Speaker 1: really good years, you know, And I'm on Saint Brown,
21:19
Speaker 1: you could put DeVante Smith in that cat, I mean
21:22
Speaker 1: anywhere up. I thought he was better than a J.
21:23
Speaker 1: Brown last year personally. Yeah, But if you want to
21:26
Speaker 1: said it was a down year from round, fine, But
21:28
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a more varied and
21:31
Speaker 1: precise route runner than DK Metcalf, So like he deserves
21:35
Speaker 1: to be right in that eleven point six to eleven
21:39
Speaker 1: point eight percent range. But again, if the Eagles get
21:42
Speaker 1: ahead of this, right, they don't necessarily have to give
21:46
Speaker 1: him that percent.
21:47
Speaker 3: Of the cat right. And that's that's the thing.
21:50
Speaker 2: I do think in almost every imaginable, imaginable scenario, he's
21:55
Speaker 2: gonna be over that nine point.
21:56
Speaker 3: Eight percent number.
21:58
Speaker 1: Sure.
21:58
Speaker 3: I just I just don't see him being under it.
22:02
Speaker 2: I think there could be if he gets hurt, but
22:04
Speaker 2: I just even if he gets hurt, I.
22:06
Speaker 3: Don't see him doing the extension then.
22:08
Speaker 2: So I just the more I'm thinking about it, I
22:11
Speaker 2: think my projection of ten and a half to eleven
22:14
Speaker 2: and a half makes a lot of sense if they
22:15
Speaker 2: get to it early, which is still pretty significant. It's
22:18
Speaker 2: thirty four point three to thirty seven point six million
22:21
Speaker 2: a year.
22:21
Speaker 1: Right, and again the reason to do it now is
22:24
Speaker 1: you don't want to get closer to free agency. And
22:27
Speaker 1: the name right here that was last on the list,
22:29
Speaker 1: George Pickens. All right, so you have two guys next
22:34
Speaker 1: year who are probably going to inflate the market, like
22:37
Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe, one of them being Pickens, the other
22:40
Speaker 1: one potentially if he gets keeps his head on straight Nikua,
22:44
Speaker 1: those two alone could really really take that market to
22:48
Speaker 1: another level.
22:50
Speaker 3: So getting ahead of it's really important.
22:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we would project then somewhere between a thirty
22:57
Speaker 1: four point three and thirty seven point six million ap
23:01
Speaker 1: Why I think that sounds reasonable. The only thing that
23:05
Speaker 1: makes it like weird And sometimes this happens, right, a
23:08
Speaker 1: free agent signs of contract and it's like, holy cow,
23:11
Speaker 1: how did he do that? What was Do we have
23:14
Speaker 1: the Alex Pierce apy from his ridiculous contract with the Colts.
23:19
Speaker 1: It's like twenty nine million, right, Yeah, it's a half okay,
23:24
Speaker 1: So as long as he's got to be well above
23:26
Speaker 1: the twenty eight and a half because there's no way
23:28
Speaker 1: you would say Alec Pierce is anything close to to
23:31
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith like Alli Piers. Don't get me wrong, I'm
23:33
Speaker 1: not trying to like, Yeah, he smirks the guy, but
23:36
Speaker 1: he's not Devonte Smith.
23:37
Speaker 3: I totally agree.
23:38
Speaker 2: But that's why I included a much larger spread for
23:41
Speaker 2: the wide receiver market because I think it's important to
23:43
Speaker 2: see all.
23:44
Speaker 3: The contracts there.
23:46
Speaker 1: Yeah.
23:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a big part of it.
23:49
Speaker 1: So I think it's a workout. The only thing that
23:52
Speaker 1: could potentially happen not knowing, you know, I forget who
23:55
Speaker 1: Devonte Smith's agent is. I can I can check in
23:57
Speaker 1: a second. He does they do kind of have they do?
24:01
Speaker 1: They have leverage? He's twenty eight That's that's the thing.
24:04
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old. I think people forget.
24:06
Speaker 3: It's clutch sports.
24:08
Speaker 1: It's clout. Okay, so it's clutch. They can play hardball
24:10
Speaker 1: at times. I mean, if they walked in there and said,
24:14
Speaker 1: he's about to have kind of year in your offense
24:17
Speaker 1: that Smith and Jigba just had for the Seahawks, because
24:20
Speaker 1: he's really far and away one A and there's no
24:23
Speaker 1: one b like he was to aj Brown. They have
24:26
Speaker 1: a right to say that. They have a right to
24:28
Speaker 1: say he's going to be the Jefferson, the Smith and
24:31
Speaker 1: Jigba the lamb of the Eagles this year and he
24:35
Speaker 1: should be in a higher percentile. I mean, they have the.
24:38
Speaker 2: Right to say that at that point, Like did the
24:41
Speaker 2: Eagles move on right?
24:44
Speaker 3: If he's getting close to that?
24:45
Speaker 2: Because what did jays sence was forty two It's like
24:49
Speaker 2: close to forty two million a year, Yeah, something like that. Like,
24:53
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Eagles want to dedicate that
24:55
Speaker 2: much cap to a receiver. I mean, they just drafted
24:57
Speaker 2: Lemon and they've signed a couple guys as they traded
25:00
Speaker 2: for Wish.
25:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying that they should do that. I'm
25:04
Speaker 3: just I'm just wondering how much, with.
25:06
Speaker 2: All these defensive contracts coming up, how much they actually
25:08
Speaker 2: want to allocate to their receiver position.
25:10
Speaker 3: Right, But it seems like, you know, I.
25:13
Speaker 2: Don't I don't want to say the Eagles have done
25:14
Speaker 2: a poor job drafting receivers, but like it's one of
25:17
Speaker 2: the areas that have been a little bit difficult for them.
25:20
Speaker 2: So do they want to you know, spend on who
25:22
Speaker 2: they've got now or do they want to try again
25:24
Speaker 2: and reroll the dice.
25:26
Speaker 1: So that that gives me two thoughts. One thought is
25:29
Speaker 1: if he winds up making more than we project here,
25:32
Speaker 1: then you project I shouldn't say these are this is
25:34
Speaker 1: your modeling. If we wind up, if they wind up
25:37
Speaker 1: paying him more than you project, and he does get
25:40
Speaker 1: that kind of contract that we were just talking about,
25:43
Speaker 1: then that to me would signal that the Eagles, who
25:47
Speaker 1: are always looking forward, if they're going to give him
25:49
Speaker 1: that kind of money, then they're probably already thinking about
25:53
Speaker 1: who's not going to be able to get money? And
25:55
Speaker 1: then a guy like Sakwon Barkley comes up here because
25:58
Speaker 1: you know he's good. He also is going to have
26:01
Speaker 1: most of his guaranteed money done by the end of
26:03
Speaker 1: the year. Landon Dickerson, they may think is not is
26:06
Speaker 1: gonna wind up retiring or not gonna be able to
26:08
Speaker 1: They already took one pay cut, okay, just this year,
26:11
Speaker 1: so they may think he's on his I hate to
26:14
Speaker 1: say the word last legs because I'm being metaphorical, but
26:16
Speaker 1: like you know, trying to think who else Dallas Goddard's
26:21
Speaker 1: money is going to come off the books. I mean,
26:23
Speaker 1: it can be done, especially if they want to front
26:25
Speaker 1: load this contract for this year and next knowing that
26:29
Speaker 1: they're going to be skimming in certain categories. But again
26:32
Speaker 1: with those other guys who are do money, it's they
26:34
Speaker 1: have to they have to make it work. But then
26:36
Speaker 1: the second thought that came to my mind is the
26:39
Speaker 1: mindset for DeVante. When he first signed his contract extension
26:42
Speaker 1: that he's currently under now, it was considered team friendly,
26:46
Speaker 1: and I think DeVante understood that A. J. Brown was
26:50
Speaker 1: on the team and that he could be team friendly.
26:52
Speaker 1: Now does he love playing in Philadelphia and you know,
26:55
Speaker 1: like this organization and believe it enough to again sign
26:59
Speaker 1: a contract that works well for both sides? Or is
27:02
Speaker 1: this was he waiting the first time he signed? Was
27:05
Speaker 1: he like, next time is going to be my terms
27:08
Speaker 1: more than their terms? So that to me, it's all
27:10
Speaker 1: about the mentality of him and his representation.
27:12
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
27:13
Speaker 2: And the thing is, let's say that he does go
27:15
Speaker 2: on the free market and gets a contract similar to
27:19
Speaker 2: what AJ Brown did at Capit signing that's like forty
27:21
Speaker 2: one million a year.
27:22
Speaker 3: If that's twelve and a half percent, that's close to forty.
27:25
Speaker 2: One million, right, So I mean I I do a
27:29
Speaker 2: lot of this was under the assumption that you know,
27:32
Speaker 2: the Eagles are gonna get ahead of it and that
27:34
Speaker 2: there would be buy in yeah from Smith.
27:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's probably a middle ground in there, because the
27:40
Speaker 1: one area of leverage that the Eagles have is that
27:43
Speaker 1: they do have him under contract for next year. Right,
27:45
Speaker 1: So he's going to be twenty eight this November and
27:50
Speaker 1: then he'd be headed into free agency at So that
27:55
Speaker 1: means he'd be twenty nine next November. In the last
27:57
Speaker 1: year he'd be headed into free agency in an age
28:01
Speaker 1: thirty season for a wide receiver, and they would be
28:03
Speaker 1: I think it would be pretty difficult to get like
28:06
Speaker 1: a huge, huge windfall at that point.
28:09
Speaker 2: So I'm thinking that like that was when DeVante Adams
28:13
Speaker 2: and Chris Godwin both were you know, at their season
28:17
Speaker 2: and they set the records.
28:18
Speaker 1: Before good point.
28:21
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, like, A, I don't know, it'd be interesting.
28:24
Speaker 2: It receivers such a hard position because the market is
28:27
Speaker 2: very dynamic, and then you have crazy contracts like that
28:31
Speaker 2: Christian kirkwan a couple of years ago, or the Alec
28:34
Speaker 2: Pierce won this year.
28:35
Speaker 3: Yes, it does. It's a weird market. To project. I
28:38
Speaker 3: have some difficulty with this one, right, so we'll go.
28:41
Speaker 1: I like your your thinking on the ten point five
28:44
Speaker 1: to wellout a half percent of the cap the thirty
28:46
Speaker 1: four and thirty eight million, But I don't think either
28:49
Speaker 1: of us would be surprised if it got a little
28:51
Speaker 1: higher than that, or at least the way it was
28:54
Speaker 1: the contract front load. He gets a little more guaranteed
28:56
Speaker 1: money than what we would.
28:58
Speaker 2: Expect, I think, especially if he outperforms his statistics significantly
29:03
Speaker 2: as the number one option, like if he has a
29:07
Speaker 2: ridiculous season, this number would like this number is based
29:11
Speaker 2: on his statistics now right, And I think I think we've.
29:15
Speaker 1: Got to get it done before this season.
29:17
Speaker 2: Though, yes, I think they have to because I think
29:19
Speaker 2: that you can justify this ten and a half to
29:21
Speaker 2: eleven and a half now right, And if you did that, yeah,
29:26
Speaker 2: I think you have to get it done as soon
29:27
Speaker 2: as possible.
29:29
Speaker 1: Have like one hundred and fifty targets year. Yeah, all right,
29:34
Speaker 1: So Tyler Steen. The reason we're going to discuss Tyler
29:37
Speaker 1: Steen not because we believe one hundred percent he's going
29:42
Speaker 1: to get a contract extension. In fact, I think it's
29:45
Speaker 1: more unlikely than likely, Although I think some of that
29:49
Speaker 1: will depend on Landon Dickerson and Cam Jurgens, right, But
29:54
Speaker 1: let's for the sake of this discussion, because thinkings a
30:00
Speaker 1: docpiled offensive Lineman, They've got some guards in. I don't
30:03
Speaker 1: know that Tyler Steen is worth, like for the Eagles,
30:08
Speaker 1: a top market extension. But Tyler Steen is going to
30:10
Speaker 1: be a I guess by the end of the year
30:12
Speaker 1: it will be like a two year starter and successful
30:14
Speaker 1: and has played well enough. And we know that around
30:16
Speaker 1: the league everybody, you know, guards get ridiculous money, no
30:20
Speaker 1: matter even if they're just average, right, because that's how
30:22
Speaker 1: free agency works. So why we want to predict this
30:25
Speaker 1: one is if the Eagles let them walk, we want
30:27
Speaker 1: to see what kind of contract you would sign and
30:29
Speaker 1: how that might help them in the compic formula. All right,
30:35
Speaker 1: So first and by the way, it also helps if
30:38
Speaker 1: they do want to sign him. I'm just saying I
30:41
Speaker 1: lean toward it not happening, then happening, but we'll.
30:43
Speaker 2: See, agreed, It's still a fun exercise and to speculate
30:46
Speaker 2: a little bit. But yeah, I mean, if you look
30:50
Speaker 2: at the statistics past blank opportunities, you know he's grown
30:54
Speaker 2: significantly as his role has grown, his quarterback pressure percentage
30:58
Speaker 2: as he's grown has actually decreased. And then he didn't
31:01
Speaker 2: allow a sack in his first two years and he
31:04
Speaker 2: did in this year. But that's inevitable because it's a
31:06
Speaker 2: volume statistic. You know you're going it's going to happen.
31:11
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't look too much into that, but I
31:12
Speaker 2: do think the quarterback pressure percentage is really interesting that
31:15
Speaker 2: as his volume increased, the pressure percentage decreased, and I
31:18
Speaker 2: think that's a really good sign.
31:20
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, I think it's weird how the Eagles
31:23
Speaker 1: were so terrible at running the ball, but they were
31:25
Speaker 1: really good in pass protection. Even even Draggons and Diggerson
31:28
Speaker 1: weren't bad in pass pro.
31:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just they all the wheels were falling
31:34
Speaker 2: off from the season before. It seems there you go specifically,
31:39
Speaker 2: it's interesting over the Cap has their market specifically for
31:42
Speaker 2: right guard, so I focused on right guard because that
31:47
Speaker 2: was what the market had. So, you know, you look
31:50
Speaker 2: at this this market, you have, you have a pretty
31:53
Speaker 2: a decent variety. You have the top end, which is
31:56
Speaker 2: from you know, you could even say the you know,
32:00
Speaker 2: Kevin Dottson, Will Fries, Jonah Jackson, everyone up that six
32:05
Speaker 2: point three to take the Linz strum at nine point
32:07
Speaker 2: one percent, that's that's there's a big fall off, you know,
32:11
Speaker 2: with the Caesar Rozi Ruiz excuse me, Elijah Vera Tucker, Yeah,
32:16
Speaker 2: McCary Ingram just a big fall off between that. But
32:20
Speaker 2: I just think it's interesting to see that placement because
32:24
Speaker 2: I do think that Steen is going to fall somewhere between,
32:28
Speaker 2: you know, the McCary contract and the Dotson Jackson Fries contract.
32:34
Speaker 1: If he hits free agency, absolutely he will.
32:36
Speaker 2: But even that by itself would get him fourteen point
32:39
Speaker 2: seven to nineteen point six million API.
32:41
Speaker 1: Right right, which is why I think it's not likely
32:44
Speaker 1: to I mean, if you're the Eagles and you have
32:47
Speaker 1: this track record of producing really good interior offensive linemen,
32:50
Speaker 1: and you're switching your scheme, and you drafted a couple
32:53
Speaker 1: of athletics like that kid from Georgia, they drafted Michael Morris,
32:56
Speaker 1: you got Kendall, you think you might be able to
32:58
Speaker 1: play guard, like why why would you pay between fifteen
33:03
Speaker 1: and twenty million when you know you've had several guys
33:07
Speaker 1: play that position before on rookie contracts or one year
33:11
Speaker 1: deals like m Mackay Beckton right, and have been able
33:14
Speaker 1: to be fine. It's just to me, a resource allocation
33:18
Speaker 1: tells me that they're not going to view Tyler Steen
33:21
Speaker 1: as a fifteen to twenty million dollar guard, but that
33:25
Speaker 1: some team in free agency will inevitably will.
33:27
Speaker 2: One hundred percent agreed on both counts. And I think
33:30
Speaker 2: that's it's a little bit surprising to like think of
33:33
Speaker 2: Stein as that fifteen to twenty but we've seen free
33:35
Speaker 2: agency like these numbers, and I think a lot of
33:38
Speaker 2: it can be explained by this cap inflation, right. I
33:41
Speaker 2: think inevitably a lot of contracts do get you know,
33:46
Speaker 2: stretched out because of inflation. And it's more of the
33:48
Speaker 2: cap inflation than when you think of inflation as you know,
33:51
Speaker 2: the actual dollar inflation. But it's as the cap grows,
33:55
Speaker 2: the percentage kind of remains the same.
33:57
Speaker 3: And I think this is a perfect example.
34:00
Speaker 2: I keep thinking back to the Milton Williams contract where
34:03
Speaker 2: we talked about it. It was I projected it much lower,
34:07
Speaker 2: and because the cap grew at such a rate that
34:10
Speaker 2: year that it wouldn't adjust to the market. And so
34:13
Speaker 2: it looks weird seeing Steen, you know, based on his
34:16
Speaker 2: performance last year, and he performed similarly this year at
34:20
Speaker 2: that fifteen to twenty million.
34:21
Speaker 3: But I mean that is what the market dictates, right.
34:24
Speaker 1: And by the way, let's just for a fun exercise,
34:26
Speaker 1: let's say we're wrong about Steve, you know, Let's say
34:29
Speaker 1: people are on the don't think he's all that good.
34:32
Speaker 1: Let's say he has a down year and instead of
34:34
Speaker 1: getting that four and a half percent, he gets to
34:37
Speaker 1: six percent, he gets like two to four percent. Okay,
34:41
Speaker 1: that's still going to be eight to ten million. And again,
34:46
Speaker 1: when you have had success with guys on rookie, whether
34:48
Speaker 1: it's Drew Kendall or Michael Morris, where you draft a
34:51
Speaker 1: garden the second round next year, which possible, right, You're
34:54
Speaker 1: talking about a guy then making in year one like
34:57
Speaker 1: a couple of million, then year two it's like a
34:59
Speaker 1: couple hundred, you know, Like it's it's so much cheaper
35:03
Speaker 1: to have a rookie at that plat, especially if you
35:07
Speaker 1: think he can play that spot. So I think he'd
35:10
Speaker 1: have to play like Isaac Samalu, peak sam Alu or
35:14
Speaker 1: peak Brandon Brooks to really be able to keep get
35:17
Speaker 1: himself an extension.
35:17
Speaker 3: Here, I totally agree.
35:19
Speaker 2: I think that you said it perfectly and I think
35:22
Speaker 2: that's probably their strategy.
35:24
Speaker 1: Right, especially when you know you can get draft pick help,
35:27
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Speaker 1: think the one thing that we can say for sure
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Speaker 1: is that there are going to be some really really
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Speaker 1: tough decisions for this team to make. Yeah, going, you know,
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Speaker 1: every team has to do it. You know that we
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Speaker 1: see with the Chiefs, they're they're constantly getting rid of
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Speaker 1: you know, they get rid of Tyreek Hill, they get
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Speaker 1: rid of their left guard Joe Tuney, you know, they
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Speaker 1: got rid of they couldn't resign Lagerius sneed. You know,
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Speaker 1: we see that the Packers couldn't even keep their left
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Speaker 1: tackle Oversheid Walker. And it's not like he amazing, right,
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Speaker 1: he just you know, they couldn't get the leak Willis
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Speaker 1: and all that. So, but the Eagles have had because
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Speaker 1: of how they've done contracts, they've been able to stockpile
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Speaker 1: and how they collect draft picks, They've been able to
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Speaker 1: stockpile some really good talent.
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Speaker 3: And it's just it's hard to pay everybody, it really is.
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Speaker 1: We like to joke about how the Eagles can because
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Speaker 1: they manipulate the cap, but even that catches up to
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Speaker 1: them a little bit.
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Speaker 3: So and a minute, will it definitely will So yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean look at that. I mean I say this
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Speaker 1: if it's new. The Eagles have made tough decisions already.
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Speaker 1: We talked about Milton Williams, talked about Jalen Phillips. They
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Speaker 1: got rid of has On Reddick because they didn't want
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Speaker 1: to pay him the money from a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 1: Who else there? I'm sure that there's somebody who's will
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Speaker 1: oh Sam Alu, Yeah, really well, they couldn't re sign him.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's just the nature of the business. But
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Speaker 1: that's how it coast and the Eveles have a lot
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Speaker 1: of talented players. Definitely, all right, great stuff, Sam, I
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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. We have to figure out what our
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Speaker 1: next step with Inside the Data is. I mean, we've
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Speaker 1: got a lot of things, a lot of ground that
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Speaker 1: we can cover over the next seven weeks.
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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, looking forward to it.
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Speaker 1: All right, cool, that's gonna do it for Inside the
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