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O'Brien & Doug S6:E3 [May 19, 2022 Giggle Handle] · O'Brien & Doug

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  SPEAKER_08: The O'Brien and Doug Podcast is brought to you in part by MojurMultimedia.com.
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  SPEAKER_08: King makes music in Press Kyle, Maine, the Rift Runner in Westfield, Maine, and Doug's cousin.
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  SPEAKER_08: Larry.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're listening to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_08: Now do it like you mean it.
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  SPEAKER_08: Thank you.
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  SPEAKER_08: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm Doug.
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  SPEAKER_08: And it is season six, episode three.
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  SPEAKER_08: Three.
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  SPEAKER_08: It is free, actually.
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  SPEAKER_08: It doesn't cost anybody anything to listen to it.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's probably probably a good thing.
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  SPEAKER_08: You can tell.
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  SPEAKER_09: Get your money's worth.
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  SPEAKER_08: Speaking of uh money's worth and and and people listening or not listening, so last week we uh we as often happens, we stumble on a phrase that we kind of stick with throughout the podcast, and this one happened to be herpes.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_08: So as a funny joke, we uh we we called the episode Better Than Herpes, O'Brien and Doug, Better Than Herpes.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And we actually used the uh the hashtag herpes just as a joke, as funny, and we were like, you know, we're gonna get a lot of listeners and a lot of downloads.
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  SPEAKER_08: We're gonna get like 300 downloads just because it said herpes.
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  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's not true.
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  SPEAKER_08: No, no, it doesn't work.
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  SPEAKER_08: No, we had the opposite.
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  SPEAKER_08: We had about 40 downloads.
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  SPEAKER_09: But we did have a lot of helpful uh internet doctors uh we did, yes.
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  SPEAKER_09: Come up with uh cures for herpes.
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  SPEAKER_08: A lot of comments on the uh on the on the And while we're grateful, um we don't have herpes.
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  SPEAKER_09: It was a it was a joke.
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  SPEAKER_09: It was a joke.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's humor.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, come on in.
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  SPEAKER_08: It was a joke.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh speaking of a joke, there is kind of a buzz going on here in our uh our little We're buzzing down here.
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  SPEAKER_08: We're buzzing down here, and uh we're trying to try to find the culprit, but uh So far no luck.
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  SPEAKER_08: So far no luck.
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  SPEAKER_08: So hopefully the buzz is not coming through um on the recording, but it probably is.
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  SPEAKER_09: We'll just hashtag buzz and then we'll get some hangover cures from everybody.
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  SPEAKER_09: That's what'll happen.
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  SPEAKER_08: So uh season three or season six, episode three.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh how you doing?
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  SPEAKER_08: You recovered from uh Sunday night?
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  SPEAKER_08: Not really, man.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm still tired.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, getting old.
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  SPEAKER_08: Star City Syndicate had our soft opening for the season uh this past Sunday.
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  SPEAKER_08: We played in Oakfield, the old uh historical society, which is a it's an old church.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's an old church.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's an old church.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's a um surprise it passes code, or maybe it doesn't.
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  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_09: I don't think I think when you call it a historical society, I think you kind of get away with more.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: So I think uh you can kind of keep your standards a little uh maybe more primitive.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right?
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  SPEAKER_08: Because I don't I don't know that they let like the public use the bathrooms or the bathroom that's in the basement.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm not I'm not sure if that's I mean we're the public, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_08: But we were the hired band.
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  SPEAKER_09: Well we were yeah, we were the hi we were hired.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: So I g you know we can use it.
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  SPEAKER_09: But uh it's um Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's it's it's you have to it's almost like you have to f have a map to get there.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes, it is uh quite a quest.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_07: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: Then there's a secret passage and you gotta say the magic words and you know, show your membership card and uh, you know, you know, you know, high five Gandalf or something, you know, and then you can get into the bathroom.
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  SPEAKER_08: And more importantly, once you're in the bathroom, there's signs telling you how to run the bathroom.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_09: You have to uh to flush the toilet, you have to hold it down.
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  SPEAKER_09: You have to hold it down.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And and and and well, let's see, the sign uh how can we do this without calling someone out?
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  SPEAKER_08: We probably can't, right?
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh what they meant to say was jiggle the handle.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_08: Or jiggle actually not the jiggle handle.
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  SPEAKER_08: But it was um so this is our I don't know, are we gonna use this as a band name or are we gonna use it as a game?
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  SPEAKER_09: I think we should use it for something because it's just too good.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was it was spelled giggle.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes, so giggle handle.
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  SPEAKER_08: Giggle handle.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um so make it of make of that what you will.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: But I think we're going to call this episode Giggle Handle.
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  SPEAKER_09: Giggle handle.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: Pull the giggle handle.
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  SPEAKER_09: Hashtag giggle handle.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_09: Then I'm sure somebody will find a cure for the giggles and let us know.
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  SPEAKER_09: We appreciate it.
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  SPEAKER_09: All you internet doctors out there, thank you so much.
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  SPEAKER_09: Thanks for looking out for our health.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's a lot cheaper than going to the hospice.
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  SPEAKER_08: Somebody has to look out for our health because we're not.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um so yeah, it was but it was good.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean we had Yeah, it's fun.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was fun.
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  SPEAKER_08: We had uh I mean Oakfield turnout is I mean, Oakfield is a small place.
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  SPEAKER_08: Smyrna is a is a small place, but they're uh they're tight-knit.
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  SPEAKER_09: And uh we uh they are passionate about that band.
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  SPEAKER_08: They are passionate about the Star City Syndicate.
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  SPEAKER_08: And uh and and and they turn out and we uh we worked out some kinks, and that's a hard room to play because it's all metal.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes, basically.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it's that old school tin covering.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep, you know.
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  SPEAKER_08: So the sound was was uh was difficult, but uh we we worked it out.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I think by the by the end it was sounding pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we were, man.
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  SPEAKER_09: I'll tell you, it's pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_08: We tried some new songs, we're uh you know, breaking out some uh some songs that we've been working on over the winter.
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  SPEAKER_08: We haven't had a to be honest, we haven't had a whole lot of her rehearsals over the winter.
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  SPEAKER_09: Two or three, maybe?
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, something like that.
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  SPEAKER_09: And we so we got then we had those two uh two or three uh school performances.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_09: Which I'm counting as rehearsals.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, pretty much.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_09: We have to at this point.
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  SPEAKER_08: But we're excited to uh get out and play the festivals this summer.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that'll be fun.
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  SPEAKER_08: So it'll be fun.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh so that's what we did over the weekend anyway.
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  SPEAKER_08: Actually, and then I had uh uh what did I do Saturday?
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  SPEAKER_08: Oh father-daughter dance.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that was uh that was a hoot and a half.
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  SPEAKER_08: It was a hoot and a half.
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  SPEAKER_08: I I I took my youngest, my eight-year-old, to the father-daughter dance, and she has inherited my um my no give a crap factor.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um she dances like Elaine from Seinfeld.
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  SPEAKER_09: She kind of does, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: I mean, you know, it's it's it's better, it's actually in rhythm.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_09: But uh it's very it's very Elaine-like.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, she does have some nice moves and she just hasn't put them all together yet.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um but we had a blast.
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  SPEAKER_08: Because when I go to something like that, I was I wasn't to be honest with you, I wasn't looking forward to going.
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  SPEAKER_08: Because all the dads stand around and have their coffee in their hand and talk to each other about business and you know, while they're while their daughters dance in the middle of the dance floor.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh or they go and they have some cake and then they come back and they sit at the table and but uh it's really a social event for the girls that to get together with their friends.
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  SPEAKER_09: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_09: Now who put this on?
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  SPEAKER_08: This was the Prescott Rec Center.
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  SPEAKER_08: And the reason it was I I think at uh Valentine's Day it was uh COVID.
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  SPEAKER_08: So they postponed it.
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  SPEAKER_08: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_08: And so this is what it was.
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  SPEAKER_08: So um, but I I got I don't know if you remember me in sixth, seventh grade.
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  SPEAKER_08: I was a pretty good dancer.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: You don't remember that?
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  SPEAKER_09: I'm I'm going to uh plead the fifth.
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  SPEAKER_09: But hold on, hold on, huh?
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  SPEAKER_09: Just I don't recall.
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  SPEAKER_09: When I was No, no, you were you were actually pretty good.
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  SPEAKER_09: You were like you were like the first one of the first people I ever saw break dancing.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: That wasn't on TV.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_08: So well when I was in fifth grade, uh was when fourth and fifth grade was when breakdancing was kind of a thing.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: Like like a big thing.
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  SPEAKER_08: Like it was huge, right?
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  SPEAKER_08: Um like movies made about it.
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  SPEAKER_08: Breaking breaking and beat street and you know all this.
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  SPEAKER_08: And uh so I I took up breakdancing and I was pretty good at it.
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  SPEAKER_08: And there was that's when base housing, you know, the base was still here.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh Loring Air Force Base.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I had some friends that were um not from around here, let's just say that.
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  SPEAKER_08: And they were really good at breakdancing.
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  SPEAKER_08: So I hung out with them and learned a bunch of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_08: Air Force Bratz.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Air Force Brats.
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  SPEAKER_08: And and then I got and then I moved.
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  SPEAKER_08: My parents got divorced and I moved down to Mars Hill.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's is this is where you know we met.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_08: And so in sixth grade.
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  SPEAKER_09: And nobody down in Marshall knew how to break dance.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right, and I was the only I was the only guy doing it.
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  SPEAKER_08: So I had some moves.
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  SPEAKER_08: I don't have those moves now.
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  SPEAKER_08: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_09: Do any of us really?
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, no at this age.
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  SPEAKER_08: But uh that didn't stop me from trying them out uh Saturday nights.
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  SPEAKER_08: Uh not all of them, obviously, but um I had some pretty good rhythm and I was dancing, of course, and you know, most of those most of the girls that went to this father-daughter dance are fourth and fifth graders who I work with for a living at the elementary school.
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  SPEAKER_08: So they're all like, hey, you know, and so I start dancing with my daughter, and I have this ability because this is about her and about us, right?
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: I have this ability to kind of put blinders up and shut everybody else off.
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  SPEAKER_08: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_08: So we're in the middle of the dance floor and we're we're having a ball.
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  SPEAKER_08: I'm showing my moves, we're doing my you know, getting jiggy with it came on, we're doing that, and I'm rapping and I'm you know, I'm getting jiggy with it, basically.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And uh all the other dads are kind of around kind of saying, you know, dude, you're making us look bad.
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  SPEAKER_09: Well, is is a isn't the name of the event father, daughter, right dance.
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  SPEAKER_09: And and there are there were some dads.
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  SPEAKER_09: I mean, unless unless you're living in the Footloose town, it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: Go out there and dance with your kid, man.
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  SPEAKER_08: There were some dads that were, you know, they'd go up and hold their daughter's hand and try and you know just do the white man dance and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_08: But not very many.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I had some of the the the kids from the school come up to me and they said, uh, one one girl came up to me and she said, uh, you know, you look silly.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I said, I know.
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  SPEAKER_08: And guess what?
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  SPEAKER_08: She's like, What?
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  SPEAKER_08: I said, I don't care.
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  SPEAKER_08: And then I proceeded to boogie loo uh till we puke.
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  SPEAKER_09: Now the thing is, is that I mean this is just an observation I've made in the 20 plus years that we've been playing music.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: How do I put this?
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  SPEAKER_09: Dancing is not an art here in our area.
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  SPEAKER_09: This is true.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, this is true.
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  SPEAKER_09: And to get anybody to dance, well, I'll say not anybody, but just just about everybody, to get them to even attempt dancing involves the consumption of alcoholic beverages.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: And the more alcoholic beverages they consume, there's a there's a point where you consume enough three I I if it was on a if it was on a graph chart, it would see it would be like that, you know, like that 90 degree angle thing, and it would start down here in the corner, and then it would, you know, this this is this is ability to dance, and the the vertical is, you know, um consumption of alcohol.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: So as the line goes this way, this is what people are thinking.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know, the more alcohol they assume, the better they're dancing.
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  SPEAKER_09: When actually it's actually starting here and going this way.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know, the down in the downward side.
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  SPEAKER_09: This is the area right here, is the sweet spot where you have just enough booze where you're you you you lose your self-consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_09: You do being self-conscious, and you go out and you have a good time.
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  SPEAKER_08: And you get the jiggle handle.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and you pull the jiggle handle, you're having a good time.
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  SPEAKER_09: But then you le you once you leave that zone, um, I'll call it the Arusta County zone, um your your dancing ability is is is uh negligible.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um because basically at that point, you know, the more alcohol you've consumed, um, you know, you lose your reflexes and your balance.
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  SPEAKER_09: And now you're just stumbling and spilling drinks everywhere.
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  SPEAKER_09: And if you spill drinks on our equipment while we're playing, we will kill you.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: I I'm gonna I'm gonna be out, I'm gonna I'm gonna say it.
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  SPEAKER_09: We will kill you.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay?
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  SPEAKER_09: This is thousands and thousands of dollars worth of equipment.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's not for you to put your drink on.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  unknown: Okay?
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  SPEAKER_09: People still get it.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's not a s it's not a it's not a nightstand.
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  SPEAKER_07: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's not a table, it's our equipment, which we paid a lot of money for, uh and that's what we're using to play you music.
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  SPEAKER_09: So you can dance.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay?
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  SPEAKER_09: So don't put your drink on it.
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  SPEAKER_08: This is a public service announcement.
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  SPEAKER_09: This is a public service announcement, Doug.
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  SPEAKER_09: So if you spill your drink on our stuff, we will.
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  SPEAKER_09: And I I I will check with precedent, you know, legal precedence, uh, landmark cases and such.
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  SPEAKER_09: But I'm pretty sure that we can legally kill you.
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  SPEAKER_08: It's 2022.
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  SPEAKER_08: I mean.
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  SPEAKER_09: I mean, we'll just put a contract out on you and we'll just end you.
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  SPEAKER_09: Some dude in a tracksuit named Biddy will co show up and just end you, okay?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_09: They're gonna treat you like they did uh uh Joe Pesci and Goodfellas.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know, you're just gonna show up and there's gonna be an empty room, you're gonna be like, oh bang, done.
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  SPEAKER_08: Speaking of booze and wasted, my daughter.
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  SPEAKER_08: Holy cow, Saturday night, she was gone.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um we're talking about sugar.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're talking about sugar.
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  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_08: They know how to get you, and of course, you know, you you you bought your ticket or you paid at the door to to to go in to take your daughter in.
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  SPEAKER_08: You had you bought pictures.
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  SPEAKER_08: We you know, we posed for pictures and we had to pay for those.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, sure, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: And I understand it's a fundraiser type type thing.
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  SPEAKER_08: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um but then they uh and they provide a multimillion dollar thing they just built.
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  SPEAKER_09: I mean, they gotta pay for it too.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: But and they provide ref refreshments uh in the form of soda.
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  SPEAKER_08: Good choice.
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  SPEAKER_08: And cake.
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  SPEAKER_08: Good.
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  SPEAKER_08: More sugar, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_08: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: And and so my my daughter, can I have root beer?
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I suppose you could have root beer.
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  SPEAKER_08: That's probably the least, you know, unless it's caffeinated.
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  SPEAKER_09: Usually root beer is not caffeinated, so that's actually a pretty good thing.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_08: There are some that are, but most most of the time.
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  SPEAKER_08: Most of the time.
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  SPEAKER_08: Sierra Mist was one of the drinks.
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  SPEAKER_08: You know, that's not caffeinated.
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  SPEAKER_08: Then they then they had Mountain Dew and Pepsi.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_09: See, now that's our territory.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_09: We, you know, we guzzled gallons upon gifts.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, we didn't do it.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, too way too much.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, that's for sure.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_08: Um but it was fun.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_08: We had a great time and we stayed until the end, which we hadn't done before because uh the last couple times, well, we didn't go, they didn't have it uh for two years, I think.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_08: Right, yeah.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_08: So when we went the last time, she was younger and she got bored and she wanted to go home early, so we went home early, or we went out to eat or something like that afterwards.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_08: But we stayed for the whole thing.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_08: Okay and I've uh she is my daughter.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_08: There is no question.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_08: I saw the video, man, and I'm I I completely agree.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, there's no question.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_09: I was like, it's looking into a small female mirror.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's that's yes, that's that's daddy's growing.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, for sure.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_08: For sure.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, so that's what I did Saturday.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_08: Um trying to think, I think I thought I did something Saturday morning too, but I don't remember what it was.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_08: And then of course we had uh the Syndicate on Sunday, yeah, and then back at work Monday.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, so it was a it was a good weekend.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_08: It was uh it was productive.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was productive.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_08: Um so uh I wanted to talk about because this is a technically a music podcast.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_08: We talk about music a lot.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_09: I thought I thought it was about herpes.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_08: True.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, we might as well change it now.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we're we're we're now a medical commentary podcast.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_09: Today we're talking about giggle handles.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_09: I have Do you have a problem with your giggle handle?
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_08: I've been trying to lose my giggle handles for a long time.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_08: I went to the gym today to try and lose my giggle handles.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_09: You got stubborn giggle handles?
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_09: Well, we have the cure.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, goodness gracious.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_08: Here's the thing.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_08: So I I I approached this because we did uh uh was it last week that we did the a review of kind of a an informal review of the scorpions and red hot chili peppers?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_09: The first episode we did the Scorps and um new red hot chili peppers.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_09: Last week we did the Black Swan album.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_08: That's right.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, that's what it was.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_09: So this week we have Oh uh well here's the thing.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_08: And I I approached this kind of um in a sad way.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_08: Only because I love It's not that Vince Neal commercial.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, no, no, no.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_08: Well, that was bad.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Vince Neal is now a spokesperson for Dollar Loan Company or something like that.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_08: It's terrible.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_08: Is it commercial?
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's bad.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_08: Um so we talked about we got a couple albums coming out.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_08: Um one coming out this month and one coming out in July.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_08: Uh the one coming out this month I have pre-ordered.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_08: I'm excited about it.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_08: Did we play a little bit of Kick, the new Def Leopard song?
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_09: I think we played that the one that one song they came out with.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_08: That sounds like uh like from the 70s, like yeah.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_08: Uh well, I've got it actually right here.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_08: Let's see if that sound familiar?
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_07: Oh yeah.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_09: I'm waiting for Brian Adams to show up.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_08: Well, this actually sounds like something from like the the like Bass City rollers or really?
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_09: I think I think it's more mid 80s.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_09: Really?
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_09: I I just uh like loud.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_09: I hear T-Rex.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_09: Bang a bang a gong.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_08: And I think that's purposely done because their new album is called Diamond Star Haloes, which is from a T-Rex film.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_08: And they're big T-Rex fans.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_08: But this is so this is the first single.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_08: It's called Kick.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_04: Stop it.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_04: I love it that way.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_08: Catchy.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_08: It's catchy, yeah.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, and so I think these guys are doing it right.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_08: Uh, and they're they're putting a lot of promotion behind it, and I I I'm excited for this album.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_08: They released another single from it, which I think is also uh pretty cool.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_08: Um, now it's telling me to connect to the internet.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_08: What do you mean, connect to the internet?
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_08: I am connected to the internet.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_08: Jeepers.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_08: What a stupid computer.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I'm not connected to the internet.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, what a stupid hand.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_09: What a stupid person you are.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_09: Not connected to the internet.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_08: Well, see, the thing is, here's the thing.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_08: We are uh way out in the country.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and we're also underground, so signals aren't very good down here.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_08: And so um we have metered internet um and w we get you know a hundred gig or something uh for is unlimited, but then after that it starts slowing down.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_08: 160 gig.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know why they call it unlimited.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_08: I know it's kind of false advertising, right?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_09: That's stupid.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_08: But um You could do better internet kind of my kid, I have I have kids here at the house that do homework and and do a lot more other things like YouTube and stuff like that.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_08: That's stupid.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_08: So That's what all the kids are doing.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_08: Our our our internet just renewed the cycle on on May 7th.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_08: Are you already out?
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_08: We're already at s uh uh 70, probably 85% now of use.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_08: So um we have to I kind of have to hook my computer up to my hotspot on my phone in order to get internet.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_08: This is all gonna change.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_08: Supposedly, this is all gonna change.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_08: They're getting fiber optic internet out this way very soon.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_08: So I'm excited about that.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_09: And you'll be able to hook it up with to your flying car.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_09: Your hovercraft.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, so they have put out another song.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_08: Def Leopard has put out another song from their forthcoming album, Diamond Star Halo's.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_06: Um This is called Take What You Want.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_07: Okay, so I dig it.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it was a little slow in the beginning.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_09: It was like, where is this going?
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_09: But once it kicked in, man, it's pretty good.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_08: That intro comes back as a bridge in the middle.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, does it?
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_08: So it reprises, you know, it's um but I guarantee you uh the first guitar guitar solo in this song is by Viv Campbell.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_08: You can tell that it's not Phil Collins, because Phil Collin has a sound and a style.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_08: Um so the first guitar solo is is Viv Campbell.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_08: I can't I can guarantee you that.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_08: Um not that not that it matters, but so first two singles from Diamond Star Halos, I think, are pretty good.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, well, I like the second this this one right now better than the other one.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_08: Yep, and and and it's kind of what you expect.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_08: They got the big vocals, yeah.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_09: The big chorus and the you know the um crunchy like guitars.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_09: This is that intro.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_07: See, this almost has a beetle quality, doesn't it?
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_07: You know, yeah.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_08: I want you to pay attention to this guitar solo.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_08: I wasn't gonna play it, but you can tell it's not Phil Collins.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_06: Phil Collins plays the second part of it.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, because Vivian's more of a shredder and Phil's more of a like a Harrison solo type guy.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, sort of.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_09: You know, in a in a way.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_09: Compared to compared to Vivian.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_08: So I say I I I I play these with with excitement because I'm um you know, I'm a big Def Leopard fan.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_08: Not as big a Van uh big as uh a fan of uh Def Leopard as I am of Van Halen.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_08: Um but I love Def Leopard, and I'm excited for the for the new album.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_08: And I those first two singles are pretty cool.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they're good.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_08: Not like bowl me over cool, but they're really they're good.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_08: I think they it bodes well for a solid album.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_08: Um which comes out at the end of this month.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_08: The other one I want to talk about, and I'm really I I'm I really have some weird feelings about this because I love this band as well.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_09: You should see a doctor.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_09: Um, don't worry, our internet doctors will jump on it.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_09: They'll they'll have a cure for whatever it is.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_08: I love this band as well.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_08: When you think of Journey, what do you think of?
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_08: Steve Perry.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_08: Of course everybody does.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_08: Steve Perry, Neil Shawn.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_08: Um But I mean, w when you think of Journey music, like songs, what do you think of?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_09: Uh it's more of the big bombastic, you know, sweeping melodies and sweeping melodies, big big choruses.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_08: Um You think separate ways, you know.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_08: Um Be Good to Yourself, uh Any Way You Want.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_08: That's the way you write big stuff.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_08: Absolutely.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_08: They've released three singles from their forthcoming album, which is called Freedom.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_08: Comes out in July.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_08: And I love Neil Sean as a guitar player, uh, and and a writer.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_08: I love Neil Sean and John Cain together as writers, even though John Cain's lyrics can be very simple and very cliche.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, so they're kind of hokey.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, they're hokey.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_08: Um, and the the new singer, Arnold Pineda.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_08: I love him.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, he's great.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_08: He's great.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_08: He's great.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_08: Dean Castanovo's back in the band.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_08: So he's so he's singing and he's playing drums.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_08: Um and they got another guy playing keyboards, and they've got some other guy playing bass.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_08: Um but they on this album, they worked with Narada Michael Walden.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_08: Now, Narada Michael Walden is a drummer.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_08: A very good drummer.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_08: He played drums on the record.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_08: Um, and he also produced the record, I think, or at least part of the record.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_08: Narada Michael Walden is Whitney Houston.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_08: Narada Michael Walden is a lot of uh jazz fusion um bands.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_08: And he's amazing.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_08: Not necessarily somebody you'd put with Journey.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_08: Um and I'm not saying that that's why these Neil Sean has been wanting to go back to Journey started out as a kind of a progressive rock band.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_08: You know, before they got Steve Perry in the band, they were very uh their songs were like seven minutes long, they weren't meant for radio.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_08: Um they were jam, they were a jam band.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_08: And Neil Sean has been trying to get back to that.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_08: And and John Cain has been kind of keeping him in check, like we we have an audience.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_07: Right.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_08: You know, we have to uh play pop songs and and you know, catchy and melodic and stuff.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I think John John Cain has kind of given up the reins a little bit on on some of these.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_08: And whoever I will just say, and I don't know if I'm gonna say they're terrible, these songs.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_08: Um especially the first one.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_08: I'm gonna play the first single or piece of the first single.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_08: Um but the sound of them is a lot different.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_08: Both in the the structure of the songs but the production.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_08: It's well, let me just play the first single.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_08: Um this is a song basically about the pandemic.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_08: Uh can we get back to the way we used to be?
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_08: So and I probably set this up wrong for you because you're automatically gonna s you know see bad in it.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_09: But well, it already sucks.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 29:02
  SPEAKER_09: I'm just gonna whatever.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_08: Have you heard it?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_08: You haven't heard any of the things?
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_08: No, I haven't heard any of the years.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, okay.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_08: So I don't know.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, so this is this is the first single from the video or from the uh album, um, which comes out in July from Journey, and this is called The Way We Used to Be.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it sucks.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_09: This is that piano that's meal showing up the guitar.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm listening to the most That's the whole song, basically.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_08: Wow, that's kind of yeah, it goes through another verse that's the same as the first verse.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_08: Um this is the best out of the three singles.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, that's not good.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_08: I know, right?
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_09: That's not good.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_09: That's not what you're doing.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_09: And this is just my opinion.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_08: Just my opinion.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_08: And I and I don't want to knock it because I love this band and I'm happy that they're putting out new music.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_08: And I want them to continue doing that.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_08: Let's listen to a little Neil Shawn here.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_08: But again, it's a blue solo.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_08: It's not your melodic.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_08: And maybe they're going for something different.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_08: Hard telling.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_09: The drums are just kind of straight ahead.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_08: Nothing nothing fancy, just kind of so that was the first single, and I was like, okay, well, you know, maybe maybe that's I mean, usually you pick the best song on the album for the first single.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_08: Usually.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_08: Or the one that's but they do things differently these days.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_08: You know, uh maybe they just didn't pick like what they thought was gonna be a hit, they just picked the song that they liked.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_08: Sure.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_08: Here's the second single.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_08: This is called You Got the Best of Me.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_09: This is Devo.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: What's the long I wanted where my heart will leave me?
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_03: Could it seem to find someone?
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_09: Does it just mean there's Dean like holding back?
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_07: It's not Dean.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_07: That's oh yeah, that's right.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_07: It's neurotic like a walden, yeah.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_09: That explains it.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_09: It just doesn't have that cash novo power.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_03: Just look at that.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_08: But even the production that seems bass-heavy is blocked.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_06: By the way, this is called You Got the Best of Me.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_06: It's a jumbled mess.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_09: That's a toy piano in the background, it's kind of distracting.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_08: I know, and I'm hoping, what I'm really hoping is is because these are on YouTube.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_08: Uh Journey has released these on YouTube.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_08: I'm hoping that it's just maybe the album's not mixed yet.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_07: You know, and maybe the Oh, so these are like rough cuts?
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, maybe these are like just uh yeah.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_08: They're very rough.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, so this one came out today.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_08: Uh or no, yeah, it came out today.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_08: This is one code.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_08: This is their latest single from the album Freedom.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_08: This is called Let It Rain.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and I'll just play it and you're not gonna be able to do that.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_06: That's it.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_08: It doesn't sound like Journey to me.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I mean, it just I don't know.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_08: Like it's just like a journey song.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_08: I'm not even sure that.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_09: It it just seems maybe this is a journey cover band.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_09: No, it's journey.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_08: I tried.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_08: Um and it's not just the mix.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_08: I think the mix is horrible.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_08: It's not good.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_08: Um, but the song itself.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's kind of a hot mess.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_08: The the vocals are like kind of hard to understand because they're buried in reverb and delay, and it's like guitars going all over the place.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_08: Randy Jackson from American Idol is playing bass.
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_08: Really?
• 36:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_09: Is he hard up for money or something?
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_09: Now that there's no more American Idol?
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, I think he's on his own game show.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_08: He's on like uh um I mean you can't even pick out a bet.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_08: You can't even pick out Neil Schoen's guitar.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_08: I just I just I you know I I listened to that today.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_08: It came out today, like I said, and I I was like, what is this?
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_09: It's not good, man.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_08: No, it's just a jumbo game.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_09: Experimental rock.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_08: And and and and I follow Neil Sean on uh and and and we have to give credit where credit is due because Journey is killing it live.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_08: They are one of the biggest acts.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_08: Oh sure, you know, they they've got the most one of the most successful tours going right now um out on the road, and and they put on great shows because they put they play their hits.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_08: You know, the the songs that everybody wants to hear.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_08: Um I'm sure they're playing maybe one or two of those from the new album.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_09: Oh god, I hope not.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_08: Well, I hope it's not that.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_09: Or at least not that one.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_08: Holy cow, so bad.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_08: So good.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_08: So I'm and and I'm not gonna lie, I'm probably gonna buy the new album.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I'm sure you will.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_08: Because I I support the band and I love Journey, and um and I'm just praying that it's better than than these three songs.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_08: Well, um do that.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_09: I just I I you know because I uh you know, I don't know.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_09: I just nothing there impressed me.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_09: Me either.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, it was like zero.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, it just nothing makes me want to buy the album.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_09: Well when you think about it when I heard the Deaf Leopard ones, I was like, oh man, I'm probably gonna get this.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_09: Because it sounds like Def Leopard.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_09: Um this is like you know, somebody dared Journey to make a crap album.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_09: And they were like, challenge accepted.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_08: I just, you know, I mean, they are what are they chasing now?
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_08: They're not chasing anything.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_08: They're just they're just being who they are.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_08: And so they're not chasing radio.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_08: They don't care about getting played on radio.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_08: Is there really radio anymore?
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's the point.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_08: So let's just uh compare here.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_08: Um when I say melody, you know, Neil Shawn is known for his melodic guitar playing.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_08: This is a classic.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_08: This is Stone in Love.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_08: Okay, this melody right here.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_08: You can sing the guitar solos.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_08: That's what I look forward to in a journey song.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_08: Those three songs we just played from the new album, you can't sing anything from those.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I suppose, you know, going back to my, you know, consumption of alcohol chart, um, the more alcohol you consume, the better you can sing their songs.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_09: So I think that's what they did.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_09: They're going by that chart, too.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_08: And and we're putting a lot of pressure on bands to uh maintain um, you know, what fans are you know expecting from them.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_09: And it's hard.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_09: That is it is a hard thing to do.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_09: And I don't blame for I don't blame musicians for branching out and doing right you know other stuff, but I mean you gotta have at least you gotta have one listenable track on your album.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_09: And so far they're failing.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_08: Well, for for us, again, it's all it's all Yeah, it is subjective.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_08: Subjective.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_08: Somebody else might be like, oh, it's about all about it.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_08: No, it wasn't Amazon.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_08: I went on YouTube.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_08: Actually, and I was reading some of the comments on YouTube, and the first you know, a bunch of comments were like, This is the best journey I've ever heard.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_08: Wow.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_08: And then there was a bunch that were saying the same things that we were, like, this who who mixed this?
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_08: Did somebody let their kid on the mixing board?
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_08: But I do think I do th and that's a good topic for conversation.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know if we'll go to go there now, but um we expect certain things from the bands that we like.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_08: Um like Guns N' Roses.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_08: Guns N' Roses got back together, which nobody expected.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_08: Or maybe they did, I don't know.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_08: But they um they were they were t they toured, had a very successful tour for like three or four years, I think.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_08: And now there's talk of them doing another album.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I don't know if it's gonna happen or not.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_08: Slash just came out with another another album, which was supposedly I haven't heard that one yet.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_08: I'd like to review that one.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_08: I I heard it's really, really good.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_09: Well, he so far, I mean, the ones he's put out are really, really good.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_08: Um, but I mean, if Guns N' Roses put out a new album right now, we'd probably rip it to shreds.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_08: You know?
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_08: I was never a huge Guns fan.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_08: I mean I I loved I like Guns N Roses, yeah.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_08: But I was never a uh a huge fan.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_08: But I would expect something like Appetite or something like Use Your Illusion, and those guys are way past that.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah, that I mean those days are long gone.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_09: I think it's just you know, you have to have you have to set ex expectations, you know.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_09: Um in in relation to time past.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_08: Well I mean do you have to set expectations?
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_09: I mean be like at Well, I mean you have to well I'm not not set expectations, but uh maybe more f being more fluid with your expectations, maybe, you know, because it's like you know, these guys are like 60, 70 years old now.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_09: Right, you know you know, for them to even be doing it still, right?
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_09: It's pretty impressive.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_08: And I and same thing for um Sammy Hagar and the Circle.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_08: Sammy Hagar, Mike Anthony, Vic Johnson, and Jason Bonham.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_08: Um none of them are young men.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_08: No, they're not.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_08: And they and they've got a new album coming out called Crazy Times or something like that.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_08: Um I think it's coming out in July, also, I think.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, the last Sammy and the Circle album.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_08: To me, and I'm you know how big a Sam Hagar fan I am.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_08: It was awful.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_08: It was an awful album.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_08: It had a couple good songs on it, but it was it was not it was not good.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_08: And they don't have people producing their records anymore because they're they're kind of doing it themselves.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know if that's shooting them.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_08: Uh because you know the the the the playing field is leveled now for for everybody because everybody can make a record.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's probably the part of the problem.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_08: I think that's true.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_08: I think that's true.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_08: But um you need that uh fresh set of ears to uh to tell you, yeah, you know, no, that's that doesn't sound good.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_08: Um and some of these guys who've been doing it forever don't have that anymore.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_08: Um but you know, one would argue they don't need it because they know.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, they've been around.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_08: So it's just a it's just a weird thing to think about.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_08: It is.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_08: Strange.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_08: So um, like I said, I'm gonna pick up the new Def Leopard, and I'm gonna pick up the new Journey, and I'm gonna pick up the new Sammy Hagar, just because of these are guys I grew up with, and I support them and I always have.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_08: So There you go.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_08: There you go.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_08: So we're gonna take a break.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_08: And well, before that, I want to do this uh because I thought this was kind of funny.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_08: Um I f I was just surfing through uh Facebook and found this uh little meme.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_08: You're an 80s rock star, okay, and your name is the color of your underwear plus the last thing you ate.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_08: I am black cracker.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_09: Blackcracker.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_09: Well, mine must be Commando Chicken.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_09: Which is actually I hate to say this, but that's kind of a cool name.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_09: Commando chicken.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, Commando Chicken! With his opening act, Black Cracker.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: Black Cracker! Commando chicken and black cracker.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_08: Oh my word.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, are we ready?
• 45:43
  unknown: Ah, yeah.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_08: Let's do this.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_08: The uh guitar legends alphabet and the drum legends alphabet.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_08: C.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_08: And the letter of the day.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_08: No, it's not C.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_08: The letter of the day today is H.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_08: Nope.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_08: Uh G.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_08: No, no, you're right, H.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_08: H.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's H.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_08: H.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_08: Ah, there we go.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_08: So in the Guitar Legends alphabet, uh both of these books, uh children's books, put together by Bick uh Beck Finer.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_08: In the Guitar Legends alphabet, H is for Jimi Hendrix.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: Hendrix!
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_08: The undisputed best guitarist of all time.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_08: James Yeah, I know.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_08: James Jimi Hendrix demolished the foundations of rock and roll with never before seen skill and created never before heard sounds.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_08: His performance at Woodstock is legendary, and setting fire to his guitar is one of music's most iconic moments.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_08: An undeniable genius.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_08: I would say that.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_08: First time.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_08: First time, yeah, absolutely.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_08: So what about the drums?
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_09: Wasn't it well I'm just looking at this picture of uh Eric Clapton, and I remember didn't he didn't he tell somebody that this guy he's seen is gonna put him out of business?
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, and it was Jimi Hendrix.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_09: Who was he telling that to?
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_09: Was it George Harrison?
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_09: Pete Townsend, I think.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, it's Pete Townsend.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_09: He was Pete Townsend, yep.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_09: H out of the drum legends alphabet.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_09: H is for Hal Blaine.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_09: Ooh.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_09: Who passed away uh a couple years back.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_09: Uh as drummer of the Session Legends, the Wrecking Crew, Blaine would become one of the most recorded drummers in history.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_09: He played with the Beach Boys and Elvis Presley, and also created the iconic and often imitated beat on the Ronette's Be My Baby.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_09: Boom, boom, boom, bap.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_08: Boom, boom, boom, bap, boom, boom, boom, bap.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_07: Um Is that it?
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_09: I've never, yeah, that's all I did.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_09: Two things.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_09: Number one, somebody actually mentioned the wrecking crew.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_09: Right?
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_09: Which I thought was cool.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_09: And then boom, boop, boom, bop.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is right now.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_08: You know, um, I follow Brent Mason, who's a country guitar player in Nashville.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, you're talking about it.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_08: He's one of the most recorded guitar players in in the world in history.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_08: Um and he when he like on Instagram, if you follow him on Instagram, he uh records himself while he's doing a session uh all the time.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_08: And he wears a wrecking crew guitar strap, which which was pretty cool.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_08: That is cool.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_08: Um so Hal Blaine and Jimi Hendrix together, how would that go?
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_09: I think that would work out well.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_08: Do you?
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_09: Hal Blaine could play with anybody.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_09: This is true.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_09: So, I mean it would just it would work.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_09: Cool.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_09: It would totally work.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, so that's the uh letter of the day, H.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_08: And we're gonna we're gonna take a break and we'll come back with the uh the wall of tools.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_08: Oh that's uh that's coming up.
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  SPEAKER_09: No, we're front.
• 50:00
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• 50:01
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• 50:04
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• 50:08
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, I got another music here.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_09: There it is.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_02: That's what we're missing.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_08: We're climbing the wall of tomb.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_09: Climbing the wall of tomb.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_09: Alright, so you turn that way.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_09: I'm gonna take these off.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, I'll just look over here.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_09: And let's see.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_09: Let's talk about what I see.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I see your portable bed is still down here.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_08: I actually I don't wanna.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_08: Well.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_08: I'm back, by the way.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_08: I've got some.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_08: Port and company.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_08: Um is it port or company?
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_08: Port and port and company.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_08: That oh, that those are t-shirts.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I realize it, but I'm just thinking about the name.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_09: It's a terrible name.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, port and company.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_09: Port and company?
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_08: I mean, it's like who's port?
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you know, uh this is sure for porter.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_08: I've been sleeping down here.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_08: Still?
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_08: Still.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_08: You know why?
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_09: I have no idea.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_08: Because uh and and and I don't know, I'm maybe I'm oversharing.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_08: But when I don't sleep down here, sometimes I sleep on the couch because the bed that my wife and I have, although I miss sharing the bed with my wife, is terrible on my back.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm not really sure why it is, because it's a pillow top mattress, it should be like engulfing me and uh Yeah, that's sometimes that's not as good as you can.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_08: It's it's not good for your back.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_08: So I s a lot of times I sleep on the couch, and then I got s I got sick, not COVID or anything, but I got sick and I said I'm just gonna sleep downstairs.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_08: So I got that uh gymnastics mat over there.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_08: I lay that out and I and I put a blanket down and I put more bla and so I've been sleeping down here, it's a and it's a cement floor.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_08: I find I find that I wake up in the morning and my back is fine.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_08: It's like well yeah, you need that support, man.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_09: You need that I just need a hard bed, I guess, maybe.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_09: I I found that sometimes in when I used to have some I used to have like lower back problems.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_09: I had like a little I had a little board I would just sleep on.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_09: I'd put it under my back, just just that part that hurt.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_09: Work like a charm.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_08: So it is so it is it does help.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_08: So I'm not crazy.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_08: I'm not crazy.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_08: So yeah, yeah.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, too much softness for a mattress is not good.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's not good for your back.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_08: It's really been it's it's really been helping my back.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_08: I I did have a lot of lower back pain, and now since I've been doing and I've only been doing it for maybe a week and a half sleeping down here.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_08: Um but I wake up in the morning and and I actually sleep better.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_08: You know, I'll go to bed at n ten o'clock at night and uh I'll get usually like if I slept in in in the bed, in the bedroom, or even sometimes on the couch, um I would wake up every couple hours.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_08: You know, and just be like trying to get comfortable and the first few times that I slept down here, I was like, what time is it?
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_08: Holy crap, it's six a.m.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, see.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_08: I slept all through the night.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_08: There you go.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_09: So plus all your cool stuff down here.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_09: I know.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_07: I do record on the card.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_07: I do, I put records on when I go to bed.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_07: It's like you're coming down, nope.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_07: Nope.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_07: Never again stay down here.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_09: This is where I live now.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_09: I'm a basement dweller.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, it's so true.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm never coming up! Daylight! Ah!
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_08: I have a CD from the wall.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_08: I don't remember if we've done this artist.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_09: So I guess we'll find out.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I I almost think we have.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_08: But I don't know for sure.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_08: So doesn't mean we can't talk about them.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_08: That doesn't mean we can't talk about them.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_08: Um I used to have I used to get um I used to when when we would do one, I would put one up in a in a special area so that I know that we did it.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_08: This one wasn't in that area, but that doesn't mean I didn't move it.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, sure.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_08: So yeah.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_09: Anything is possible at this point.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_08: Anything is possible.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_09: That's why it's the wall of tumors.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_08: Alright, so let the guessing begin.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_09: Solo Raband.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_09: Band.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_09: Band.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_09: What genre?
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_09: Rock.
• 54:16
  unknown: Rock band.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_09: Height of popularity.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_09: Um 80s.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_09: 80s.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_09: Is it journey?
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_09: Thought I'd take it a shot.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_09: Hmm, okay.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_09: How many members?
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: Four.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: Four?
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_09: Um, any virtuosos?
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_09: Uh no, I wouldn't say so.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_09: Uh all guys, girls, all guys.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_09: All guys, okay.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_08: There was a girl in there at one time.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_08: Is it Black Flag?
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_08: No.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_08: Okay.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_08: Was there a girl in Black Flag?
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_09: Oh.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_09: Uh, Kira.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_09: What was her last name?
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_09: Her and Rollins dated briefly.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_09: And what did she play?
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_09: Bass?
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_09: She was the bass player, yeah.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_09: Uh okay.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_09: So, yeah.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_09: I did not know that.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_09: I wish I could remember her last name though.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_09: Uh anyway.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_09: Um, oh, but well, no.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_09: Was it Sonic Youth had a female bass player?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_09: So did White Zombie.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_09: Um, so not any of them, though.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_09: Nope.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_09: 80s band.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_09: Uh any like iconic songs?
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_09: Um.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_09: Gonna have to hit me up with some cubes.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_08: Um they've had technically two lead singers.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_08: Um the lead singer left, they replaced him, and then and then he came back.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_08: Um they well, if I get if I tell you this, you're gonna get it.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_08: Um there were I told you there was a girl in the band at one time.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_08: She was only in the band for like one tour.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_08: And she played drums.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, it's Molly Crew.
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_08: It's Motley Crew.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_08: Sam Alone.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_08: Sam Malone.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_08: She played for Hole.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_08: And um, so this is the CD.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_08: Did we have we done this?
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_08: I don't believe we have.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_09: This is that's their greatest hits one.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it's a Red White and Crew.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_08: Red White and Crew.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that's a good one, actually.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_08: I have it because I'm a rock fan.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_08: I am not a Motley Crew fan.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_09: Um I'm a I'm a fan of some of their a lot of their songs.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_09: Not necessarily of them personally.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I I guess that's true.
• 56:46
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I could I could do without them as you know, as individuals.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_09: Other than maybe Mick Mars.
• 56:54
  SPEAKER_09: I like Mick Mars.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_09: I do too.
• 56:55
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 56:56
  SPEAKER_09: But the rest of them, I'm kind of would I hang out with them?
• 56:59
  unknown: No.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_08: Nikki Six has gotten uh more tolerable as he's aged.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he's you know, he's a grandpa now.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_08: So I mean it's not as bad as well.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_08: It's funny that I picked this when we just watched that Vince Neal commercial.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that was terrible.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_08: Um, but these guys are actually going on the the big stadium tour with Def Leopard.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, yeah, that's right, and uh, Winger, right?
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_08: And nope, it's not it's not Winger.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_08: It's uh Def Leppard, uh Motley Crue, and they're switching back and forth who's opening or who's who's closing the show.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_09: Which I would think that Def Leppard would I have I have flashbacks to that Guns N' Roses Metallica tour back in the early 90s.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_08: That's what I'm feeling.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_08: Um so it's it's Def Leppard, it's Motley Crue, and then Poison and Joan Jett.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_09: Oh.
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_08: I like one, well, there are some early stuff that I like.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_09: Their early stuff was really, really good, I think.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_08: Um Too Young to Fall in Love.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_08: I love that song.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_08: I shouldn't say I love that song, but I I like that song.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_08: Um Shout at the Devil.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_08: I wasn't crazy about Shout at the Devil.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_09: I like that song.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_09: It's one of my favorites.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_08: Um I didn't really care for their cover of Smoking in the Boys Room.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_09: Uh it was okay, but it wasn't great.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_08: Wild Side was alright.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_08: I like it.
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_08: I like Wild Side.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_09: Dr.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_09: Feel Good is great, I think.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_08: Well, that's gonna say, I was gonna say that album.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_08: Dr.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, the Dr.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_08: Feel Good album, yeah.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_08: Um obviously here is, you know, let's see if we can do this.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_07: You know, this was their I think this is one of their best songs ever.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_07: I do too.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_07: I do too.
• 58:47
  SPEAKER_07: I and I think this is their best album.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_07: Um ever.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_08: Oh yeah, I would agree.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_08: To this to this day.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_08: Um was this, I think Bob Rock did this, uh did this produce this for them, right?
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_08: Bob was it Bob Rock?
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_09: Possibly.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_07: Bob Rock or Bruce Fairburn?
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_07: Well, let's uh hey Google.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_09: Um remember last time I was having such a hard time getting Google to come up?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_09: I literally when I just said, hey Google, and just there you go, there it goes again.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_09: Uh hey Google.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_09: Who uh who produced uh Molly Cruz's Dr.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_09: Feel Good album?
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_08: It was Bob Rock, wasn't it?
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Bob Rock, yep.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_08: Yep, yeah.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_08: Um so obviously obviously this is a song that you know, and obviously this is a song that you know.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_09: Oh I I like this song too.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_09: It's one of my favorites.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_08: Um this of course was based on uh Nikki Six's uh near-death experience.
• 59:47
  SPEAKER_09: Well actually, well, I can't well he actually did die.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, he did.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_07: Once or twice.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_07: Yep.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_07: Was it twice?
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_07: I I think I don't remember.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_07: Did you watch the movie The Dirt?
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_07: Yes, I did.
• 59:57
  SPEAKER_07: That was disturbing.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_07: It was awful.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_07: It was disturbing.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_08: You know, that that movie was talked up to me.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_08: I said, Oh, you really gotta watch it.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_08: Actually, one of the one of my radio friends is like, oh, it's an awesome movie, you really gotta watch it.
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_08: And and so I watched it and I was like, this is terrible.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it was I mean, it was kind of cool to see, you know, the you know, the the hedonism of 80s model.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_09: But I mean, other than that, it wasn't it wasn't a very good movie.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_08: No, it wasn't.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_09: But I mean, it was just it was kind of cool, and parts of it were kind of cool.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but it was just more like them just being idiots, yeah, really stupid and high and drunk all the time.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_09: And you know, when uh Vince Neal killed that uh Hanoi's rocks, yeah.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_07: What's it what was his name?
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_07: Um The guitar player, right?
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_08: Uh singer, I thought it was.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_08: No, it wasn't no, that was mostly girl.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_08: It was it was this it was the guitar player.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_08: Who was his name?
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_08: Uh uh was it Razzie?
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, he had a weird name.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, something like that.
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_08: Um, you know this one.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_08: Same old situation.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_07: Same old, yeah.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_07: This is a good song today, yeah.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_08: I don't know.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_08: This is the only album I like, that's why I'm playing this.
• 1:00:57
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_08: Uh there was a lot of hits on this album.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_08: There was.
• 1:01:01
  SPEAKER_08: So there was those three.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_08: Um, it's just same old situation.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_08: That's all that.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_08: Of course, probably my favorite song on the album.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_07: Really?
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_07: It was probably my least favorite.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_07: You didn't like this one?
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_09: I didn't like this.
• 1:01:15
  SPEAKER_09: Just because it's not it wasn't it's not mildly true.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_09: It's just like um Let's put a ballad on the album.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's just in a ballad.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_09: Well, it's kind of a ballad.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_09: It's a mid-tempo to me, you know.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_09: It's not one of my favorite songs, you know.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_08: I think this one had the most melody.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_08: Really?
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_08: Um here's the ballad.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_08: Remember this?
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_09: I take it back.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_09: This is the worst of the worst song of the Forgot about this one.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_09: Without you.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_09: Now wait, there's a song on that collection that's actually pretty cool.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_09: When I die.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_07: Yep, but if I die.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_09: If I die tomorrow.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_09: That song is awesome.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_09: I agree.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_09: I really like that one.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_08: And we played that um when we were on the radio show.
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_08: Uh I played it quite a bit, actually.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, a lot of people requested that song.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_09: Um, if I remember right.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_09: That Whiskey in the Jar.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
• 1:02:13
  SPEAKER_09: The Metallicus version.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_09: Well, actually, the calls we would get, can you play Whiskey in the Jarro?
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_09: Dude, it's Whiskey in the Jarr.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_09: It's not a Jarro.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_09: That's just a James Hetfield thing.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_08: Um so here's a song you were talking about from Crew.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_08: If uh if it works here.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_08: This sounded very modern for Motley Crew.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_09: It did, and I think it wasn't on any album.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_09: It was made for this, right?
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_09: Now listen to that really that's awesome.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_09: That guitar man.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_08: I agree.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_08: And it had a catchy chorus.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_08: It did, yeah.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_08: This is around the time, and I think this was uh Nikki Six is doing.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_08: He was working, he had that uh band, that side project called 6 a.m.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_09: 6am, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_08: Which was the same kind of feel as this right here.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_08: So it was a it was an avenue that Nikki Six was going down and and applied it to Montley Crew, and it worked.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_09: It worked really well, especially this this song.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_09: I I absolutely loved it.
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_09: This is probably my favorite crew song.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_08: You know, this is a great song.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:04:01
  SPEAKER_08: And Vince Neal actually sounds great on this.
• 1:04:03
  SPEAKER_09: They did sound really good on this.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_09: They all they it just all of it worked.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_08: Yep.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_09: You know, I wish they they could have done that more often.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_07: I agree.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_08: I'm uh curious as to how long Montley Crue's gonna last on that stadium tour.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_08: Because uh, Vince Neal is really out of shape.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_08: He doesn't look his voice is not uh is not holding up.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_09: Well, on a scale of um, you know, Pavarotti to, you know, yeah, modern day John Bon Jovi.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_09: Ye's down on that end at the Bon Jovi.
• 1:04:50
  SPEAKER_08: We're we're definitely uh very super critical tonight, and I'm not sure why that is.
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_09: I think it's because it's Tuesday and we're tired, and maybe we're just very negative today.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_09: We are.
• 1:05:00
  SPEAKER_09: This is the negative podcast.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_09: We are.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_09: We need to pull the the giggle handle.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_09: We need a we need a flush sound effect.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_09: It's like and then just people laughing.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_08: Um speaking of uh people that aren't singing well, my mother called me.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_08: Um I didn't know your mom's name.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_07: Let me finish.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_08: She called me and she says, I uh I got one of my papers I want you to read.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_08: I'm like, what do you mean?
• 1:05:29
  SPEAKER_08: You know, I don't want to tell you what it is because you always give me a hard time.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_08: Is it the Inquirer, Mom?
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_08: Yes, that stuff is true.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_08: No, it's not, Mom.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_08: It's it's all made up.
• 1:05:40
  SPEAKER_08: No, some of it is true.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_08: No, not really.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_08: Well, it's based on true things.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_08: Well, so anyway, we always have this argument.
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  SPEAKER_08: I I said, I have no desire to read the National Inquire.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_08: Well, there's a couple articles I wanted you to see.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_08: You know that uh Naomi Jod shot herself, right?
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_08: I'm like, Yes, Mom.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_08: I did, yes.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_08: But because that was in the news.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_08: Um and and the other thing was uh John Bon Jovi's trying to get Richie Sambora back in the band because uh he's having vocal problems.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_08: And I'm like how would getting Richie Sambora back in the band help with John Bon Jovi's vocal problems?
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_09: Unless he's unless John's gonna step out and let Richie sing.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_09: Richie's but Richie doesn't sing those songs.
• 1:06:21
  SPEAKER_09: I mean he No I know, but he always sang really good, you know, backup.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_08: Oh, he's great, don't get me wrong, but but I don't think it's gonna help John Bon Jovi's vocal woes.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_09: You know, I don't think so.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_09: I think I think he just roached his voice over the years.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_09: I think so.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_09: I mean Especially after that Sli Slippery When Wet album.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_09: I think I think that really did him.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_08: Both the Slippery When Wet and and actually I I think he's he w went on they went on break after New Jersey.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_08: So Slipper.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, Slippery When Wet came out in the mid eighties, and then New Jersey was like 88.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, that was late 80s, yeah.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_08: And they they and and and the all those songs are written in a kind of a higher key, right?
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_08: So and he was he was he you're right, he roached his voice, and then they took it.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_09: Well, you listen to songs like b uh Born to Be My Baby.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, he just literally like screaming right now.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_09: And it's like, holy cow, dude, how can you keep that up?
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_09: Exactly.
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_08: You know what I mean?
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_08: And then and then so they took a long break and he did like a couple movies, I think.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_09: Um didn't he do the uh that song for uh Young Guns 2, uh Blaze of Gloria.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_07: Blaze of Gloria, I think was was that right after New Jersey?
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_07: It was in the early 90s, wasn't it?
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, it was like 1990, something like that.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_08: But then he didn't do anything, they didn't do anything until like ninety three when they came out with um Um It's the one Keep the Faith.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, that's the one Keep the Faith.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_08: And even that one, he still I mean he sounded good, um, but I think they were written the songs were different.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah they were bluesy, you know, and it just kind of a different thing.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_08: And and then just over the years, and he took vocal lessons.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_08: I knew that.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_08: He he was taking vocal lessons.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, how to keep his voice, and it just you're right.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_08: I just over time singing those songs that people love, yeah, you know, and even if you bring it down a few keys, yeah, it's it's hard, man.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_08: It's hard.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah, you know, and so and if you've seen like footage, there's footage all over YouTube of him on the current tour, and it's not pretty.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_09: He's but live live is hard to it's hard to mix.
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_09: You know, it's you know, it's you know, if you're sound bad, I mean there's not much they can do right to help you.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_09: Now maybe he's having an off night and they just happen to catch that one, and that's you know, every other show has been amazing.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_09: Hard to tell.
• 1:08:37
  SPEAKER_09: Because we haven't been there.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 1:08:40
  SPEAKER_09: But, you know.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_08: Anyway, again, negative Nellies, we are.
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_08: Let's let's flush the giggle handle.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_08: Uh on this episode.
• 1:08:51
  SPEAKER_08: Is that what the giggle handle sounds like?
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_08: I guess.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_09: That's what I'm hearing in my head.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_06: All right, on that note, uh we're gonna wrap up this uh season six, episode three.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_09: None of that everybody's going away, mad.
• 1:09:10
  SPEAKER_09: Don't go away, just go away.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_09: I'm quoting crew.
• 1:09:14
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, you are.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um I thought that was a nice tie-in to the wall of dudes.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well done.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_07: Thank you very much.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_07: Well done.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_07: I'll be here all week.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_07: Where's my we should finish the close it out?
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_07: Close it out.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_08: All right.
• 1:09:29
  SPEAKER_08: Uh that's an that's season six, episode three.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_08: Yeah.
• 1:09:33
  SPEAKER_08: Until next week.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_08: Um O'Brien.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_09: I am still Doug.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_08: Bye bye.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_09: Go flush your giggle handle.
• 1:09:50
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• 1:10:01
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