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WEALTHY FLORIDA REALTOR-BROTHERS' RAPE ALLEGATIONS NOW INCLUDE FEAR OF MURDER · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Bombshell claim in a multi count indictment accusing twin brothers
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Speaker 2: and property czars of violent sex assaults. I, Nancy Grace,
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Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Of course, we're talking about a lawn and or in Alexander,
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Speaker 2: the famous luxury real estate brokers now facing claims they
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Speaker 2: repeatedly over years lured female victims, then taking turns sex
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Speaker 2: assaulting them. In the last days, a woman accusing the
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Speaker 2: twin brothers the property magnates of violent sex assaults, claims
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Speaker 2: in texts she is convinced they would kill.
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Speaker 1: Her if she spoke out.
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Speaker 2: That's right, and newly released text messages between the alleged
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Speaker 2: victim and her friend she calls the brother's family quote
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Speaker 2: the worst people because she's convinced they would hire a hitman,
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Speaker 2: a hit man to kill her if she ever went
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Speaker 2: public with her claims. What claims, oh brace yourselves.
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Speaker 3: But Trio Brothers luxury real estate agents to the super rich.
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Speaker 3: Indicted on federal sex trafficking and battery charges. Claims go
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Speaker 3: back more than a decade.
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Speaker 2: Claims going back more than a decade, Try two decades.
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Speaker 2: Now forty women that we know of, the claiming these
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Speaker 2: filt the rich real estate moguls took part in rape
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Speaker 2: after rape after systematic rape, and that the allegations go
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Speaker 2: back to when they were in high school. All that money,
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Speaker 2: all that privilege and education has bought them a one
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Speaker 2: way ticket to hell with a pitstop and.
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Speaker 1: The federal penitentiary. That's my prediction.
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Speaker 2: But I want you to hear what Damian Williams, the
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Speaker 2: US attorney, has to say.
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Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers and other men they planned the trips with,
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Speaker 4: paid for the flights or accommodations for the women on
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Speaker 4: these trips, and at times the defendants handpicked the women
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Speaker 4: to invite. At other times they used paid party promoters
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Speaker 4: to source women for them. The indictment also alleges that
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Speaker 4: in advance of these events, the Alexander brothers and others
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Speaker 4: procured drugs that they agreed to provide to the women,
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Speaker 4: including cocaine, mushrooms, and GHB as. We allege that these
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Speaker 4: drugs caused some of the women to be physically unable
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Speaker 4: to fight back or to escape.
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Speaker 2: Now you know why they're calling it the new ditty
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Speaker 2: or should I say the new Ditties? Now that's what
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Speaker 2: the US attorney is saying for the US attorney for
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Speaker 2: the Southern District. But I want you to look at
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Speaker 2: orin Alexander on the founder.
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Speaker 5: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have
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Speaker 5: a partner with your brother, and I just think about
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Speaker 5: that for a seconds. The biggest issue you have in
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Speaker 5: partnership is trust and knowing that you don't have to worry.
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Speaker 1: Honey, you got something to worry about.
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Speaker 2: Now, what if your brother flips on you and testifies
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Speaker 2: against you. Let's just analyze what we just heard, and
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Speaker 2: that's where our friends. That from the founder on YouTube,
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Speaker 2: that's or an Alexander one of the and I mean
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Speaker 2: filed the rich rolling in money, that's or an Alexander quote.
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Speaker 2: Having the ability to work with my brother, to have
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Speaker 2: a partner who's your brother.
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Speaker 1: You know, just think about that for a second. Don't worry.
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about it.
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Speaker 2: The biggest issue you have in partnership is trust and
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Speaker 2: knowing you don't have to worry.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what happened with me?
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Speaker 2: An All Star panel, Let's get to it straight out
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Speaker 2: to christ Yo joining US national news anchor Salem News Channel, Christina,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us I'm really curious about
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Speaker 2: how much money these two have. And this goes all
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Speaker 2: the way back. Their family is wealthy, their grandfather wealthy,
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Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah, kind of like Luigi MANNGIONI just
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Speaker 2: all that money to silver spoons in the mouth.
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Speaker 1: And yet this what happened, Christina.
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Speaker 6: You know, actually I think it started way back when
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Speaker 6: they were in high school. As people are now starting
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Speaker 6: to come out and say that they actually had a
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Speaker 6: sex fan that was parked in front of their parents
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Speaker 6: forty million dollars beachfront of state where the boys, the
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Speaker 6: brothers in high school would take women to have sex
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Speaker 6: in that bus in front of their parents' house. So
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Speaker 6: this has been behavior that has been encouraged, perhaps by
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Speaker 6: their parents, all the way through. Then you add the
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Speaker 6: hundreds of millions of dollars in properties that these brothers
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Speaker 6: have sold and the security business, and they're pretty much
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Speaker 6: running around town doing anything that they want, including, according
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Speaker 6: to prosecutors, drugging women raping women. Each brother has separately
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Speaker 6: been accused of at least ten rapes, ten forcible rapes
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Speaker 6: by women, and prosecutors are saying that.
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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Christina, Christina Ohio, hold on don't wait a minute.
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Speaker 1: We were just looking at them, Karen Stark.
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Speaker 2: Why is it so hard for people to believe that
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Speaker 2: super wealthy, college educated, great job guys can commit heinous crimes?
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Speaker 1: That's what he posted on his own Facebook.
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Speaker 7: Go ahead, well, I really believe Nancy, and people see
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Speaker 7: this outward of parents.
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Speaker 1: They're dressed so.
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Speaker 8: Well, they look so terrific that they buy that that
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Speaker 8: they believe that that's what they really like, and they
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Speaker 8: have no idea what's going on behind the scene. And
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Speaker 8: actually the fact that he says he trusts his brother,
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Speaker 8: I was thinking, yet they trust all of them trust
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Speaker 8: each other in supporting the crimes that they committed, which
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Speaker 8: made it even worse because they were encouraged.
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Speaker 2: Nima Ramani is joining US high profile lawyer out of
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Speaker 2: the California jurisdiction and for my purposes, former federal prosecutor,
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Speaker 2: president of the West Coast Trial Lawyers and author of
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Speaker 2: Harvard to hashtag Nina, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Many people not familiar with our world of crime would say, hey,
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Speaker 2: why do they have to rape women with good looks?
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Speaker 2: Of course they're not attractive to me. I think they
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Speaker 2: look like Satan himself. But with good looks and all
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Speaker 2: that money, they could get any woman they want, so
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Speaker 2: why rape a woman? That kind of argument has actually
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Speaker 2: worked on jurys before, Nima, it has.
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Speaker 9: But Nancy, this isn't just having sex with women. We're
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Speaker 9: talking about drug induced to orgies right where multiple men,
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Speaker 9: including the two brothers, are allegedly having sex with the
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Speaker 9: same woman. So, yeah, women might want to have sex
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Speaker 9: with a handsome, wealthy man, but not get in a
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Speaker 9: situation where they're having an orgy and they are being
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Speaker 9: violated by multiple men.
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Speaker 2: Your speaking sense to me, Yes, I know that. That's
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Speaker 2: my point, Nama, I'm like two steps beyond that.
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Speaker 1: Of course, what you just said is right.
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is it would be argued to a jury.
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Speaker 1: Just look at them.
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Speaker 2: Why would they have to source women with a pr
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Speaker 2: person in other words, basically pimp for pimp for the
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Speaker 2: brothers because they could get any woman they want. Therefore,
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Speaker 2: ergo they're innocent.
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Speaker 9: It's not just any woman, Nancy. They need new women
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Speaker 9: every single night, and they want to do things to
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Speaker 9: these women that a lot of women wouldn't consent to. Now,
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Speaker 9: obviously this is a family show, so I'm not going
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Speaker 9: to get into all that. But that's why they're using
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Speaker 9: drugs like GHP to drug these women so they can't
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Speaker 9: say no.
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Speaker 10: That's what this is all about.
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Speaker 9: And the tailor's old as time doesn't matter if it's
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Speaker 9: the Alexander Brothers Diddy, Okay, I can say that.
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Speaker 2: I'm clearly I think you and I have a communication
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Speaker 2: problem because you're just basically saying everything that I say.
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Speaker 1: I'm Linn Shaw.
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Speaker 2: Helped me out here, founder executive director Lynn's Warriors, committed
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Speaker 2: to ending sex attacks on children and women. Lynn Shaw.
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to make the point that the argument will
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Speaker 2: be made by the defense. I already know the facts
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Speaker 2: is presented by the state. Everything that Ramani just.
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Speaker 1: Said, I get it.
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Speaker 2: I've read the indictment. Okay, the defense is going to
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Speaker 2: argue at trial they don't need to rape women. They
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Speaker 2: can get any woman they want. Therefore, this is consensual.
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Speaker 2: That's bs it's argued in so many rape cases.
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Speaker 11: I call them the Alexander Brothers crime family, and I
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Speaker 11: call these dirty Ditty complicit wannabes. Listen, the egos are
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Speaker 11: so big they're out of control. Again, this is the
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Speaker 11: same story we heard with Ditty and others facing charges
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Speaker 11: like this that so many vulnerable girls and women. I'm
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Speaker 11: going to throw in the girls again. I wish we
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Speaker 11: could get down to were there any miners involved, But
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Speaker 11: that will unfold at some point. They want to see
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Speaker 11: and live this lifestyle. Many of these women were approached
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Speaker 11: online complete strangers, and they said, we'll fly you out,
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Speaker 11: We'll give you hotels, we'll give you parties, we'll give
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Speaker 11: you clothes, and vulnerable people, girls especially really want to
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Speaker 11: experience this. I'm here to say if this case can
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Speaker 11: help us educate the general public, because we're hearing about
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Speaker 11: all these you know, dirty ditty We're hearing about Tape brothers,
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Speaker 11: We're hearing about Jeffrey Epstein, we're hearing about now these
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Speaker 11: criminal Alexander brothers. If it could, if it could water
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Speaker 11: down eventually, my hope is to everyday cases that are happening,
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Speaker 11: that nobody will ever hear those victims, see those victims,
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Speaker 11: so we can educate everybody. When they offer you something
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Speaker 11: like this, this lifestyle for free, they're going to fly
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Speaker 11: you somewhere run.
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Speaker 1: In the other direction.
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Speaker 11: This is again their powers, their money, their egos, their homes,
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Speaker 11: overtaking people's common sense. We have to do better educating
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Speaker 11: the public, girls and women about all of this.
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Speaker 2: Their family wealth has been estimated, correct me if I'm wrong,
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Speaker 2: Christina a whyo joining me from Salemuse Channel, over one
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Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen million dollars.
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Speaker 6: Correct, And I'm I'm sure that's even more than that.
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Speaker 6: Is the parents have offered to put up to one
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Speaker 6: billion dollars to get their three boys out of prison
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Speaker 6: out on bail. They've even offered to put them up
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Speaker 6: in a second story apartment complex where they're jail time
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Speaker 6: pre trial, that has no beachfront, that has no luxury,
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Speaker 6: that's you know, guarded twenty four to seven by guard.
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Speaker 2: Way whoa wha waite, white white Christina, Wait, did you
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Speaker 2: say the parents want to get them out of jail
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Speaker 2: on a billion as in brother b brother billion dollar bill.
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Speaker 1: And the jail is because they don't have a beach.
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Speaker 6: They won't have a view, they won't have any orgies,
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Speaker 6: and it won't be luxuries. So that's what they're considering
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Speaker 6: to be jail. And yes, up to one billion with
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Speaker 6: a beach is what they're willing to put up to
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Speaker 6: get their three sons out of prison.
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Speaker 1: Bill Day, it's the ditties.
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Speaker 2: It's the new ditties because all the money procuring the women,
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Speaker 2: making other people be your hench person to bring women
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Speaker 2: to you, to drug them and rate them.
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Speaker 1: Those are the allegations that presumed innocent.
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Speaker 2: But also is Luigi Mangioni all over again. Here is
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Speaker 2: a rich brat kid whining about how US common people
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Speaker 2: have to live with the healthcare industry while he's in
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Speaker 2: a beach front Hawaii luxury high rise condo. His great
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Speaker 2: grandparents and grandparents and broke their backs coming to this
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Speaker 2: country and becoming millionaires, working up.
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Speaker 1: From nothing nothing, passing it down.
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Speaker 2: So Luigi Mangioni could find in his luxury condo these
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Speaker 2: two same thing.
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Speaker 1: Bill.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and in this case they've actually built their business,
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Speaker 12: so they've built their brand. They now feel omnipotent. I
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Speaker 12: mean they have money, they're traveling with celebrities, they're flying
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Speaker 12: on private jets. You know, they're selling these huge, multi
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Speaker 12: multimillion dollar properties. They are getting headlines in all kinds
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Speaker 12: of media, including their own real estate empire.
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Speaker 10: So you know, these are the paper people.
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Speaker 12: If I put a profile around the FBI profile, but
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Speaker 12: I know enough of them to speak about how these people.
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Speaker 10: Become can become emboldened, emblazoned.
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Speaker 12: It's both feeding the ego as well as also just
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Speaker 12: their ability to control things. So they like to be
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Speaker 12: able to get control everything, whether it's the deal or people.
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Speaker 2: Guess what, I got a superseding indictment. I bet that's
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Speaker 2: making Nima Ramani just clinch because when you see the
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Speaker 2: FEDS have a superseding indictment, this is for conspiracy to
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Speaker 2: commit sex trafficking on these rich brats. That means, hey,
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Speaker 2: we have one go at you, but we're not through.
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Speaker 2: We're issuing a revised, a new and improved indictment with
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Speaker 2: more charges. It supersedes the previous indictment. Yeah, they may
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Speaker 2: be rolling in money, but apparently the Feds don't care
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Speaker 2: so exactly. Who are the so called real estate Bros.
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Speaker 13: There are three Alexander brothers. Two of the brothers are
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Speaker 13: twins or an a lawn. Their older brother Tall Tall
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Speaker 13: and or In. Alexander are known in the world of
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Speaker 13: high priced real estate, having broke he to a forty
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Speaker 13: nine million dollar deal for their dad in twenty twelve
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Speaker 13: and at two hundred and forty million dollar deal Yellopra
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Speaker 13: Manhattan condos sale in twenty nineteen, while Orang's twin brother
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Speaker 13: Alan attended law school before joining the family's private security company,
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Speaker 13: Kin Security.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: In the Last Days, an alleged sex assault victim who
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Speaker 2: says she was raped by playboy twins and their relative,
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Speaker 2: makes terrifying claims about the suspect's family in court filing.
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Speaker 2: She also says cousin and friend Ohad Fisherman, also a
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Speaker 2: real estate star, helped the brothers rape her by leading
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Speaker 2: her into a bedroom and locking the door. Now Miami
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Speaker 2: Day prosecutors, who have leveled criminal charges against the men,
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Speaker 2: call what allegedly happened.
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Speaker 1: A gang rape. What do we know about the facts?
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Speaker 14: In a fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse, the
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Speaker 14: Alexander twins Orin and Elon, celebrate their twenty eighth birthday.
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Speaker 14: Celebrants are greeted by a nearly naked woman on display
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Speaker 14: as a toy for the rich and famous to play
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Speaker 14: with as they take turns. Dripping hot wax on the
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Speaker 14: woman setting the tone for the decade, a night that
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Speaker 14: awaits those who are rich enough and or famous enough
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Speaker 14: to be invited to the Alexander Twins' birthday pash.
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Speaker 1: What am I hearing?
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, A fifty million dollar Upper east Side townhouse.
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Speaker 2: The real estate bros celebrate their twenty eighth birthday celebrates
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Speaker 2: greeted by a nearly naked woman on display as a
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Speaker 2: toy for the rich and famous to play with as
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Speaker 2: they take turns dripping hot wax on her.
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Speaker 1: Deja vous? Huh does this remind you of anything? Hi diddy?
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Speaker 2: There, you are nothing like eating sushi off a naked
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Speaker 2: lady on display for the rich and famous. I mean
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Speaker 2: it's like an echo chamber in here.
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Speaker 1: Well, guess what.
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Speaker 2: The Feds apparently in this case anyway, don't care how
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Speaker 2: rich you are or whether you're eating sushi off a
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Speaker 2: naked lady at a luxury party or you have her
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Speaker 2: on display so rich people can drip wax on her.
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Speaker 1: Listen to the US Attorney for the Southern District.
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Speaker 4: Omni or the Alexander Brothers, sometimes acting alone, sometimes with
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Speaker 4: each other, and sometimes with other men, forcibly raped and
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Speaker 4: assaulted the women. As the endictment alleges, the Alexander Brothers
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Speaker 4: sex trafficking agreement went beyond the plan trips and events.
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Speaker 4: On numerous occasions, one or more of the defendants drugged
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Speaker 4: and raped or sexually assaulted women they encountered by chance
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Speaker 4: at bars, at nightclubs, social events, and dating apps. These
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Speaker 4: assaults allegedly had many of the same hallmarks as the
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Speaker 4: rapes that occurred at group events, isolated locations, drug victims,
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Speaker 4: force and physical restraint.
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Speaker 1: It's really a lot to take in.
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Speaker 2: You know, very often, as a former prosecutor prosecuting nothing
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Speaker 2: but violent felonies, I would catch myself wondering why, for instance,
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Speaker 2: why not just date a woman and have a relationship
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Speaker 2: and have sex with her and not drug anybody and
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Speaker 2: rape and sodomize them in a party in a party
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Speaker 2: setting with a lot of guys standing around. But then
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Speaker 2: I realized, about five years into that kind of thinking,
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Speaker 2: why ask why? It doesn't matter. I had one job
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Speaker 2: to seek the truth. Who did, what, where, when?
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Speaker 1: And why? Why not?
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Speaker 2: So much to Karen Stark, renowned psychologists joining us, Karen,
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Speaker 2: it's not about sex.
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Speaker 1: That's a simple answer for me.
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Speaker 2: Why don't the real estate bros with all their money
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Speaker 2: and all their high rises just go date somebody and
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Speaker 2: have a sex life.
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Speaker 1: It's not about the sex. What is it?
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Speaker 7: It's a perversion Nancy. They're getting off on raping satemizing.
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Speaker 7: A normal relationship, the kind that you're referring to, does
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Speaker 7: not excite them. They have gotten used to this kind
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Speaker 7: of rape and violence since they were in high school,
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Speaker 7: and this is what gets them excited.
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Speaker 8: Nothing else.
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Speaker 2: Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing. These wild, extravagant
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Speaker 2: parties that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars were not
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Speaker 2: parties at all. They were just a russ to find
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Speaker 2: sex assault victims for the new deities.
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Speaker 13: The fabulous parties with fabulous people might have been a
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Speaker 13: cover for something sinister pre planned by the Alexander brothers.
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Speaker 13: Each of the three brothers has been accused of forcible
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Speaker 13: rape by at least ten women. All three indicted on
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Speaker 13: federal charges of sex trafficking, while the twins aren't in
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Speaker 13: Alan are charged with sexual battery in Florida. The Alexanders
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Speaker 13: have denied the allegations in the civil cases, and their
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Speaker 13: reps have previously gone so far as to suggest the
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Speaker 13: accusers were trying to shake down the brothers.
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Speaker 2: Second verse, same as the first. Do I have to
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Speaker 2: say deja vu all over again? Why the real estate
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Speaker 2: bros Are called the New didties same thing now they
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Speaker 2: called it fabulous parties.
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Speaker 1: Diddy calls it freakoffs.
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Speaker 4: Homes allegedly planned and controlled the sex performances, which he
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Speaker 4: called freakoffs, and he often electronically recorded them.
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Speaker 1: The freak offs.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial sex workers,
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Speaker 4: and often involved a variety of narcotics such as ketamine, ecstasy,
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Speaker 4: and GHB, which Combs distributed to the victims to keep them.
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Speaker 10: Obedient and compliant.
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Speaker 4: As alleged, when Combes didn't get his way, he was
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Speaker 4: violent and he subjected victims of physical, emotional, and verbal
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Speaker 4: abuse so that they would participate in the freakofs.
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Speaker 2: To Christina Awaio, joining US investigative reporter and news anchor,
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Speaker 2: the comparison between the real estate Bros And Ditty are inescapable.
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Speaker 6: They are They both are basically using their power and
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Speaker 6: influence to allegedly drug and rape women.
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Speaker 1: However, the brothers.
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Speaker 6: Have been doing this I think longer than Diddy, all
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Speaker 6: the way tracing back to high school. I think they
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Speaker 6: were encouraged to do it with their lifestyle, and they
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Speaker 6: have been described as being very aggressive, very bullish, very
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Speaker 6: attack of when it comes to working in business, and
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Speaker 6: also you have people from their high school years who
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Speaker 6: are coming forward saying that they did it in high school,
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Speaker 6: and people were scared. Everybody in the community was scared
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Speaker 6: to speak out because they had so much power, they
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Speaker 6: had so much prominence, because they had so much influence.
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Speaker 1: And the same goes for Diddy.
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Speaker 6: He has so much power and so much money, people
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Speaker 6: don't want to talk out against it. People are scared
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Speaker 6: that their careers are going to be ruined, that they're
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Speaker 6: never going to be let back into the music industry,
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Speaker 6: that they'll be blacklisted from certain events. And I think
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Speaker 6: the same is true for the Brothers.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Real estate czars, twin brothers and a relative. An alleged
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Speaker 2: victim claims she says she fears the suspect's family would
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Speaker 2: kill her if she went public with the climbs. Well,
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Speaker 2: it isn't her going public, it's the government. Prosecutors now
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Speaker 2: charging the brothers and a relative with multiple counts.
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Speaker 1: Of sex assault.
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Speaker 2: The thirty seven year old brothers, the twins, are facing
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Speaker 2: charges for allegedly drugging and raping multiple women, and according
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Speaker 2: to prosecutors, it went on for years. The brothers also
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Speaker 2: facing legal woes from the federal government who is trying
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Speaker 2: to uncover every single possible alleged victim of the brothers.
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Speaker 1: US attorneys in the Southern District of New York.
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Speaker 2: That's the Feds returned to three count indictment in December
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Speaker 2: against the twin brothers and their older brother, tal Alexander.
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Speaker 2: He's thirty eight, also employed as a luxury realtor in
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Speaker 2: both New York City and Miami. Fed say the brothers,
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Speaker 2: who are celebs.
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Speaker 1: In the Manhattan and the Miami.
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Speaker 2: Party scenes, used their real estate reputations and celebrity to
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Speaker 2: run a sex trafficking scheme where they promise dozens of
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Speaker 2: women romantic relationships luxury travel parties, only to sex assault
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Speaker 2: them violently.
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Speaker 1: What more do we know?
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Speaker 2: A woman writes a friend in text messages that she
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Speaker 2: feared for her life if she ever spoke out against
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Speaker 2: the realty bros. As they are now called. Two twin
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Speaker 2: brothers and their older brother charge in multi count indictments,
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Speaker 2: massive piles of paper charging these three with years and
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Speaker 2: years of sex assaulting unsuspecting women, and now claims at
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Speaker 2: least one of the women feared they would be killed
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Speaker 2: if they came forward. What have we learned about the
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Speaker 2: evidence so far?
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Speaker 1: The ax Await.
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Speaker 3: Rape charges in jail. As a New York federal judge
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Speaker 3: deems the trio flight risks, they're extradited to the same
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Speaker 3: jail as Ditty as the Metropolitan Detention set are lose.
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Speaker 2: The Alexander Brothers, a so called real estate bros rolling
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Speaker 2: in money also called the New Ditties, all of their
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Speaker 2: trouble started, well, it really started all the way back
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Speaker 2: in high school when they're accused of such assaulting women
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Speaker 2: all the way back then. But the current day problems
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Speaker 2: i e. Their rape charges all started when one woman
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Speaker 2: spoke out. According to prosecutors, the rapes and sex assaults
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Speaker 2: have been going on for years and years and years
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Speaker 2: until this woman spoke out.
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Speaker 13: Listen, The Alexander brothers fall from grace begins when the
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Speaker 13: Real Deal reports on damning lawsuits brought by alleged victims
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Speaker 13: Kay Wyman and Rebecca Mandel. Whyman alleges the brothers abducted
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Speaker 13: her in twenty twelve and brought her to a Hampton's
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Speaker 13: party palace in Watermill, Long Island, where the brothers allegedly
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Speaker 13: dragged her into a large bedroom where she was sexually assaulted, abused, raped, pinned, groped, harassed,
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Speaker 13: battered and fondled by a lawn and or in Alexander,
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Speaker 13: isn't it amazing?
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Speaker 1: Linn Saw joining us in Lynz Warriors.
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Speaker 2: How it only takes one person, one person to stand
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Speaker 2: up and be counted, one person to speak out, even
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Speaker 2: though they may be afraid for the whole.
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Speaker 1: House of cards to fall down.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, but we have to educate everybody that we will
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Speaker 11: give you safety, we will give you guardrails, we will
25:40
Speaker 11: stand next to you. That is what I'm hoping all
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Speaker 11: of these dirty ditties and this Alexander Brothers crime family
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Speaker 11: will bring more public awareness again watering down to you know,
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Speaker 11: maybe that team that lives in the Bronx or something
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Speaker 11: like that, that they can come forward. We will take
25:56
Speaker 11: care of them. But I want to point something out.
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Speaker 11: There was so much video evidence here, and I want
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Speaker 11: to go back to what happened with all those videos
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Speaker 11: where they upload it to porn sites?
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Speaker 1: Was there millions of dollars? Because we do a lot
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Speaker 1: of work with this.
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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Lynn Shaw, hold on, you're exactly right
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Speaker 2: straight out to Christina at Wyo, joining US News anchor
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Speaker 2: investigative reporter, What are the so called trophies of the
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Speaker 2: real estate bros That.
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Speaker 1: Has just have just been revealed.
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Speaker 6: Yes, well, it's one thing to have a witness testimony, right,
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Speaker 6: but it's an entirely different situation when you have video evidence.
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Speaker 6: As we just saw with the Cassie and Diddy situation.
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Speaker 6: Prosecutors and investigators rated tell Alexander's Manhattan apartment and they
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Speaker 6: found a hard drive filled with pictures and videos. They're
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Speaker 6: saying in these videos, of course, there's the quote unquote
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Speaker 6: Orgys or the sessions where alleged rape is happening. They're
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Speaker 6: saying that women can be seen highly intoxicated on alcohol
26:54
Speaker 6: or maybe even drug. They're saying they're seeing in these
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Speaker 6: videos where the brothers are physically manipulting these women's bodies
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Speaker 6: to have sex with them, and most of the time
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Speaker 6: they're seeing these women do not know they're being recorded.
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Speaker 6: There's this one incident that they explain that a woman
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Speaker 6: and a man are having sex in a stall and
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Speaker 6: another person is recording over the stall with a camera,
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Speaker 6: and when the woman sees it, she protests, she says no.
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Speaker 6: So it's going to be pretty difficult for whatever reason
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Speaker 6: they kept these videos, or they have these videos, It's
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Speaker 6: going to be difficult to defend this in court.
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Speaker 2: Christina, you stated that one of the videos was taken
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Speaker 2: over a stall.
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Speaker 6: What yep, So a man and a woman were having sex.
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Speaker 6: It did in detail if that was forced rape. It
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Speaker 6: didn't detail what that was exactly. But there is a
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Speaker 6: third person who is holding a video camera up over
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Speaker 6: the bathroom stall where the woman and man are inside
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Speaker 6: of that stall having sex. And the woman sees the camera.
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Speaker 6: She tells them to stop, and they don't stop. And
27:48
Speaker 6: that's what prosecutors are saying. They're not listening to these women.
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Speaker 6: They're manipulating their bodies, and they won't stop when the
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Speaker 6: women are asking them to stop.
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Speaker 2: Trophies trophies. Tanima Ramani is joining US former federal prosecutor,
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Speaker 2: president of West Coast Trial Warriors, author of Harvard to
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Speaker 2: hashtags Nima trophies.
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Speaker 1: Have been the undoing of so many criminals.
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Speaker 9: Explain, Oh, it's great evidence if you're a prosecutor, because
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Speaker 9: people can lie. Criminal defendants lie all the time, even
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Speaker 9: witnesses and victims can sometimes lie. But video doesn't lie.
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Speaker 9: And when you have video of these sex acts, that
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Speaker 9: is the best evidence when you're a prosecutor, because really
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Speaker 9: there's only two defenses in any sex trafficking case. Either
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Speaker 9: the sexual activity didn't happen or it was consensual. That's it.
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Speaker 9: And once you have that video, it certainly takes away
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Speaker 9: the first defense, and then when women are being drugged,
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Speaker 9: takes away the second as well. And there's really two
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Speaker 9: reasons why people record these sex acts. The first is
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Speaker 9: their own deviant sexual pleasure, and I think that's probably
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Speaker 9: why Diddy was recording his freak offs. But there's the
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Speaker 9: second reason, and that is to have control over the
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Speaker 9: victimsotentially blackmailed them and say, hey, if you come after me,
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Speaker 9: I'm going to leak these.
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Speaker 1: Videos Christina and Jayo.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it true that these videos were pulled off of
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Speaker 2: a hard drive that was found hidden in a closet
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Speaker 2: during a federal search, Yes.
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Speaker 6: In Tall Alexander's Manhattan apartment, so they were really searching.
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Speaker 6: They had the warrant to go through everything, and he
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Speaker 6: kept them. He kept them on a hard drive. And
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Speaker 6: it's not just videos, it's pictures as well. And it
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Speaker 6: goes to show that just like he said, men light
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Speaker 6: women light, witnesses lie perhaps, but the video is not
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Speaker 6: going to lie and this is pretty tough evidence. However,
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Speaker 6: the defense is already saying this doesn't prove anything. This
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Speaker 6: doesn't prove a commercial act. This doesn't prove that they
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Speaker 6: were drugged. It may prove that they're intoxicated. But he's saying, oh,
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Speaker 6: these are just big orgies. Everybody was willing and there
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Speaker 6: is nothing going on here, So next story, please, you know.
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Speaker 1: It reminds me.
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Speaker 2: In the last few days, Shawn Comes aka Diddi's defense
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Speaker 2: team has stated they want the free coll videos to
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Speaker 2: be made public because it quote proves his innocence. Okay, sure,
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Speaker 2: you know another thing. If it's so innocent, why was
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Speaker 2: it hidden in a closet? But thinking about the videos
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Speaker 2: the trophies pulled from a hard drive in the real
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Speaker 2: estate bro's closet, it reminds me of a certain raid
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Speaker 2: that went down on San Combs's mansion. In that case,
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Speaker 2: as well, Bill Daily, former FBI trophies quote trophies were
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Speaker 2: obtained during that raid. Bill Daily video equipment was reportedly
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Speaker 2: discovered along with over one thousand bottles of lubricant Baby oil.
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Speaker 2: Trophies have been the bane of many criminals existence why trophies.
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Speaker 12: You know, and as if you go to other kind
30:48
Speaker 12: of repeat offenders, repeat criminals such as Dennis Raider, the
30:52
Speaker 12: bund torture kill fiend. You know, they keep pieces of
30:58
Speaker 12: clothing to keep some something to remind them something.
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Speaker 10: Who's going to get them excited, Something's going.
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Speaker 12: To you know, make them remember how how wonderful it
31:06
Speaker 12: was that they controlled this person, that they did what
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Speaker 12: they did.
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Speaker 10: And so for all these things, it's some.
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Speaker 2: Way are you putting perfume on the pig daily, that's
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Speaker 2: not like you the souvenirs, the trophies quote get them excited.
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Speaker 2: You may give them an direction.
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Speaker 12: Well, you know that as well as sharing among other
31:23
Speaker 12: people being able to. In some cases they like to
31:26
Speaker 12: share it because they've they've had this experience of other people.
31:29
Speaker 10: They keep it.
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Speaker 12: They look at themselves, you know, maybe other people. They
31:33
Speaker 12: let them see that. That all kind of gives them
31:35
Speaker 12: a sense of control. It goes back to that essence
31:38
Speaker 12: of controlling individuals, controlling their environment, doing what they want
31:42
Speaker 12: to do, using that leverage over people.
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Speaker 10: You know. In this case, Nancy, in a very interesting
31:46
Speaker 10: point it came up, which.
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Speaker 12: Is simply we've seen in other cases is that as
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Speaker 12: the FBI was investigating this, reports are coming out that
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Speaker 12: multiple victims have the same stories. Again, people who've been
31:56
Speaker 12: not connected, not there at the same place, same time,
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Speaker 12: but have the same to tell.
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Speaker 10: All of that is extreming.
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Speaker 12: And as part of what I believe the FBI is
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Speaker 12: and the US the Attorney's officers making their case out of,
32:08
Speaker 12: is that they have statements.
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Speaker 10: And I would encourage people.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm very curious, Bill Daily. I think this
32:13
Speaker 1: goes beyond.
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Speaker 2: Your or my kin colloquial for understanding. Joining me psychologist
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Speaker 2: Karen Stark. Everything Bill Daily said is correct, But what
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Speaker 2: is the reason, the mental or the psychological reason that
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Speaker 2: people like Dennis Raider or in this case, the real
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Speaker 2: estate bros also called the rape bros.
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Speaker 1: But those are just accusations. Why keep all these videos
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Speaker 1: they're damning.
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Speaker 7: It's a wonderful way for them to relive the crime.
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Speaker 7: Nancy and whatever got them off when they were doing it,
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Speaker 7: whatever got them excited and gave them erections and orgasms.
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Speaker 7: They can do that all over again repeatedly because they
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Speaker 7: have these trophies.
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Speaker 1: It's great if it's.
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Speaker 7: A video, but it can be an airing, It could
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Speaker 7: be a necklace. It could be a piece of clothing.
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Speaker 7: It doesn't matter. They wind up reliving the excitement that
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Speaker 7: they felt at the time and how much they controlled
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Speaker 7: the situation.
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Speaker 1: For years.
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Speaker 4: The Alexander brothers, sometimes with others, also arranged domestic and
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Speaker 4: international trips to carry out their sex trafficking scheme. To
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Speaker 4: recruit and induce women to come on the trips, they
33:31
Speaker 4: provided material benefits, things like travel to vacation destinations, luxury accommodations,
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Speaker 4: and access to other high end experiences.
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Speaker 1: Are the claims true? Should I believe the real estate Bros?
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Speaker 2: Or should I believe all of the women now coming forward,
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Speaker 2: some of them named in federal indictments, others filing civil suits.
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Speaker 1: What's very hard.
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Speaker 2: For many people to understand, including myself, is how the
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Speaker 2: real estate bros. Acted, how they faked a happy home life.
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Speaker 13: Listen, the Alexander brothers are all married now. A Lawn
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Speaker 13: married Shaney Zigrin, with whom he has two children, in
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Speaker 13: May of twenty twenty, or In married model Camilla Hanson
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Speaker 13: in April twenty twenty three, and Tall married Ariel CogAT
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Speaker 13: in October of twenty twenty three. Or In pleaded with
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Speaker 13: a judge to let him out as his wife was
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Speaker 13: pregnant and do any day. His request was denied.
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Speaker 2: That's something the baby can say as it grows up.
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Speaker 2: Dad was in jail on rape charges when I was born.
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Speaker 2: This whole facade of a happy family again, it's diddy
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Speaker 2: Rediu listen, be happy.
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Speaker 10: I love you. Two of you get hit on the
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Speaker 10: phone time.
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Speaker 1: To veterman.
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Speaker 2: Try a lawyer of former felony prosecutor Ramani Nima. It
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Speaker 2: would not be the first time a so called family
35:05
Speaker 2: man was ultimately convicted of repeat offenses. I mean, there's
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Speaker 2: Dennis Raider that Bill Dealey brought up earlier, who would
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Speaker 2: sex assault and kill so many women and including young
35:19
Speaker 2: girls on his dog catching route the whole time. He
35:23
Speaker 2: had a family at home, and he was a deacon
35:26
Speaker 2: in the church. Then you've got Gaysey John Wayne Gacy,
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Speaker 2: who would go to children's birthday parties to entertain the
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Speaker 2: children dressed as a clown.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how many.
35:38
Speaker 2: Boys' bodies were pulled out of his crawl space. Then
35:41
Speaker 2: you got Ted Bundy, who seemingly was a successful law
35:46
Speaker 2: school student.
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Speaker 1: He's a serial killer.
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Speaker 2: He goes on and on and do I have to
35:52
Speaker 2: say rex Huerman, the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room,
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Speaker 2: the architect by day, serial killer by night, with a
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Speaker 2: wife and two.
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Speaker 1: Children, Nancy and Human.
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Speaker 9: His wife actually saw some of these sex acts, at
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Speaker 9: least allegedly, So this question of what she knew, well,
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Speaker 9: this is criminal defense.
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Speaker 10: Lawyering one oh one.
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Speaker 9: They want to show the jurors that the defendant has
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Speaker 9: family support. That's why you see Ditty's family at every
36:16
Speaker 9: single appearance. That's why I fully expect the Alexander brothers
36:20
Speaker 9: to have their parents, the wives who haven't filed divorce
36:23
Speaker 9: to be at those court proceedings, because that's what jurors expect.
36:27
Speaker 9: They want to see the family members supporting the folks
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Speaker 9: who are accused and are on trap.
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Speaker 1: And like Didty, the new Ditties have a.
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Speaker 2: Fantastical scheme of how they're going to stay out of
36:40
Speaker 2: MDC Metropolitan Detention Center listen.
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Speaker 13: In a crazy bid to keep their boys out of incarceration,
36:46
Speaker 13: the parents of the Alexander brothers have offered to provide
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Speaker 13: private imprisonment. In a real proposal to authorities, Shlomo and
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Speaker 13: Early Alexander proposed confining the brothers to a two bedroom
36:57
Speaker 13: apartment on the eighth floor of Miami building. Emphasize the
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Speaker 13: apartment is non waterfront and non luxury. They promised security
37:04
Speaker 13: guards would be stationed around the clock and an alarm
37:07
Speaker 13: system would make sure the brothers remain on site. The
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Speaker 13: parents also offered to put up to one billion dollars
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Speaker 13: bail for their sons to get out of jail.
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Speaker 1: In case you.
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Speaker 2: Didn't get that, it's one billion as in brother biz
37:19
Speaker 2: in brother, not million billion. The parents offering to put
37:23
Speaker 2: up one billion dollars cash to get their sons out
37:30
Speaker 2: of jail. Maybe they were going to put in some
37:34
Speaker 2: equity into that, but one billion dollars bail to get
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Speaker 2: their sons out and having them imprisoned.
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Speaker 1: In a Miami high rise, and.
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Speaker 2: The suffering part was that they wouldn't get a beach
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Speaker 2: front view ouch.
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Speaker 1: That has to hurt. How dare you mommy and daddy?
37:56
Speaker 1: Christina Yo.
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Speaker 2: It's reminiscent of the last bid, well the last three
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Speaker 2: bids by Sean Combs to get out on bid where
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Speaker 2: he offered the judge a multimillion dollar bill package I
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Speaker 2: think it was twenty meal and he would stay in
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Speaker 2: a Manhattan town home with his own private security guards
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Speaker 2: to keep him from raping people.
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Speaker 1: Eerie echo, right, And that's the draw, right exactly. I
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Speaker 1: promised not to rape anybody during this time.
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Speaker 6: I promised that I'm not going to have any orgies.
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Speaker 6: In fact, I won't even have any women over So
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Speaker 6: that in and of itself is a huge punishment. This
38:34
Speaker 6: is the same thing that we're seeing with these brothers.
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Speaker 6: And quite frankly, I don't know how much the parents
38:39
Speaker 6: can be trusted in this whole situation, because we talk
38:42
Speaker 6: about pretending to have a perfect family. But I go
38:44
Speaker 6: back to the sex bus that was sitting outside of
38:46
Speaker 6: their forty million dollar home as the brothers were in
38:50
Speaker 6: high school, and people have said witness testimony, they are
38:53
Speaker 6: saying that back in those days that women in the scene,
38:56
Speaker 6: in the Miami scene because for some reason, high school
38:58
Speaker 6: brothers were in the Miami scene. They were warned not
39:02
Speaker 6: to drink any drinks that came from the brothers and
39:04
Speaker 6: to stay away from the brothers.
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Speaker 14: The Alexander brothers are accused of using their wealth and
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Speaker 14: positions to create and facilitate opportunities to rape and sexually
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Speaker 14: assault women. So far, more than forty women have come
39:15
Speaker 14: forward accusing the three Alexander brothers of sexual misconducts, and
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Speaker 14: investigators are asking other women who believe they have been.
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Speaker 1: Assaulted to call.
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Speaker 14: Attorneys for the brothers say they planned to plead not
39:26
Speaker 14: guilty to the charges, which, if convicted, could lend all
39:30
Speaker 14: three brothers in prison for life.
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Speaker 2: As we are discussing these alleged acts, sex assault, rape, sodomies,
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Speaker 2: that's what we're saying. Reportedly date all the way back
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Speaker 2: to when the Real Estate Bros Were in high school.
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Speaker 15: Listen as news of the arrests start to spread, stories
39:48
Speaker 15: from the Alexander brothers high school years come to light.
39:51
Speaker 15: Their history of sexual violence dates back decades to their
39:55
Speaker 15: high school days in Miami, where they bragged about several
39:58
Speaker 15: gang rapes. Prosecutors say each of the victims that the
40:01
Speaker 15: government has interviewed from this period reported hearing that individuals involved,
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Speaker 15: including Tal Alexander, talked about the assaults at school, boasting
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Speaker 15: about running train on their victims and saying they wanted
40:14
Speaker 15: to do it again.
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Speaker 1: You know, Lynn Shaw.
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Speaker 2: As many raped and sodomy cases that I've investigated, I
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Speaker 2: have tried, have pled out.
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Speaker 1: To jail time have covered. It's still it's disgusting.
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Speaker 2: It makes something and you want to die to hear
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Speaker 2: about them bragging about quote running train on the victims,
40:41
Speaker 2: which means multiple rapists on one victim, saying they quote
40:45
Speaker 2: wanted to do it again. It never ceases to be
40:51
Speaker 2: heartbreaking that a victim would go through this.
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Speaker 11: Well, we can't die, Nancy. We have to stand for
40:57
Speaker 11: those that don't have a voice. I want us to
41:00
Speaker 11: focus on two things here. I want us to focus on,
41:03
Speaker 11: where was mama Alexander. We're talking about a sex bus
41:06
Speaker 11: when these trio of triplets, dirty ditty triplets were right
41:10
Speaker 11: part right in front of their their multimillion dollar mansion.
41:14
Speaker 11: I'm telling you as a mother, I knew when my
41:16
Speaker 11: kids moved a throw.
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Speaker 1: Pillow on my couch.
41:19
Speaker 11: Where were the parents at this time and throughout all
41:22
Speaker 11: of this? The second thing I want to and we
41:24
Speaker 11: have to talk about that because people have to start
41:26
Speaker 11: standing up. Where were these parents? They were the talk
41:28
Speaker 11: of the town. We're hearing, you know, in the Miami,
41:30
Speaker 11: Florida area, so we should focus on that. I also
41:33
Speaker 11: want to focus on you're not going to see their
41:35
Speaker 11: wives in court with them. Those women are taking their
41:37
Speaker 11: kids and running for the hills. One is already filed
41:39
Speaker 11: for divorce. Okay, they're going to turn evidence on them.
41:42
Speaker 11: They're beautiful young women, they have some young children, a
41:45
Speaker 11: newborn baby. They're not sticking around for this. And the
41:48
Speaker 11: third thing I want to get back to we're not
41:49
Speaker 11: talking enough about is that oldest brother with his security firm.
41:53
Speaker 11: There is video evidence. Where are all those videos going?
41:58
Speaker 11: I guarantee, I hope we have a forensic accountant coming along.
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Speaker 11: That they have been uploaded not only to control their
42:05
Speaker 11: victims and to scare them, they have been uploaded to
42:08
Speaker 11: porn sites where these monsters make millions and millions of
42:12
Speaker 11: dollars across the globe. And that's these are things we
42:14
Speaker 11: should be looking at.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the parents aren't charged with anything.
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Speaker 2: That said, let me give everyone the eight hundred line
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Speaker 2: one eight hundred two two five five three two four
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Speaker 2: repeat eight hundred two two five five three two four.
42:34
Speaker 1: We wait as just as sun falls. Goodbye friend,